Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
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Quote:Russians really should make the connection between 70 years of threatening to nuke the West and Russia's long history of misfortune but the Russians can't seem to make the connection in their heads.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Is that all you got, SECOND?
Signym, people such as yourself, 6ix, Trump, Putin, Trumptards in general, have a psychology where they are not to blame for their misfortunes. Essentially they don't believe in any version of karma. Past lives have consequences in this life? They don't believe it. What they did fifty years ago, twenty years ago, 1 year ago, yesterday? They can't see the connection to what will be happening to them in the future.
I've seen people claim to understand consequences, but when pointed toward particular instances such as getting thrown out of the house after cheating on their wife many times or being fired for a long series of screwing up at work or cancer from smoking, they blame the wife or the boss or tobacco, not themselves. Trumptards blame Democrats or the wealthy if you must know a general rule of psychology. Russians do the same, but they add NATO and Ukraine as the main causes of Russia's misfortunes. They never blame their threats to nuke the West for Russia's problems because Russians don't understand the consequences of their bad behavior. They don't even know good from bad on a multiple-choice test. Neither do Trumptards know, even the so-called "Christians". Only being electrically shocked immediately after giving the wrong answer will train them in the difference. Learn from reality? Where there is a time delay between "bad" and the unfortunate consequences? They will never learn.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Is that all you got, SECOND?
SECOND: ussians really should make the connection between 70 years of threatening to nuke the West and Russia's long history of misfortune but
But wait!!!
Wasn't it YOU that claimed Russia s misfortune started with Putin?
Or maybe it was WWII??
OR, HEY! JOSEPH STALIN!
VLADIMIR ILLYICH ULLYANOV LENNIN!
CATHERINE THE GREAT!
PETER THE GREAT!
Are you trying to say that Russia's misfortunes, which started with Catherine the Great, was all because of the atom bomb??
Damn! Those Russians were sure technologically advanced!
*****
I have no idea what you're trying to say, and neither do you.
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Quote:Do you understand Russia? In Russia, the final outcome of Putin’s invasion of Ukraine is roundly considered to be dependent on the outcome of the next presidential election. State media pundits are openly pining for the day when America focuses predominantly on its own issues, ceases to be a global driving force and becomes merely another “regional leader.”
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I have no idea what you're trying to say, and neither do you.
What Putin’s marauding troops weren’t able to take by force is expected to be handed over by Trump or a Trump-adjacent candidate. Political commentator Sergey Strokan openly said that the outcome of the American presidential elections will ultimately determine how and when the war in Ukraine will end.
Despite delighting in Ramaswamy’s commentary, Strokan noted, “We just watched the debate. The most important thing is that all of it was overshadowed by the one who wasn’t there: ex-President Donald Trump!” Strokan alleged that consciously or subconsciously, Ramaswamy is copying Trump, down to his mannerisms. Calling the former president “America’s diagnosis,” Strokan argued that his approach to governing the country is here to stay and Ramaswamy is one of Trump’s pupils.
Host Evgeny Popov noted, “We should take a closer look at this Mr. Ramaswamy. The last time, we had installed President Trump for Americans, but our bet didn’t quite work out. Why not try again? Let’s give it another try and see how Ramaswamy will perform, in case Trump doesn’t manage to win the post of the President.”
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-remains-russias-favorite-but-goper
-vivek-ramaswami-is-new-no2
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The Pentagon confirmed that training for Ukrainians on operating F-16s would begin in Texas in September, with flight training expected to begin in October in Arizona.
The American decision to supply F-16 jets represented an about-turn. This is because the US and its Nato allies - who had earlier ruled out the move - had feared this would lead to further escalation with nuclear-armed Russia.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66631182
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Vladimir Solovyov, a noted Russian television presenter and ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, proposed instituting a death penalty for those who criticize the country's policies, including its invasion of Ukraine.
"I believe that it is necessary to realize the level of danger," Solovyov said. "But we take traitors of the motherland and sentence them to two years, fine them, they record apologies. Their corpses are not hanging from, figuratively speaking, poles, they are not afraid to betray the motherland, they are not afraid to throw bottles at military commissariats, not afraid to supply data on the movement of our troops, not afraid to burn relay cabinets."
"They are not afraid. They don't see the inevitability of punishment and the dreaded sentences. They see no punishment...We allow scumbags to threaten anyone they want, and they are not sought out and punished by agencies outside our motherland. No one was brought in in a bag, no one was liquidated on the spot. Nothing was done."
"I believe that we should reject the moratorium on the death penalty and introduce articles allowing the execution of traitors and their accomplices, terrorists and their accomplices, sponsors, and financiers, including shooting deserters who abandoned the combat order and betrayed their comrades," Solovyov said. "Brutal discipline, personal responsibility of those making the decisions, iron will in carrying out the orders. A clear understanding of the consequences and the responsibility that comes with making decisions."
Former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, who currently serves as deputy chairman of the Security Council of Russia, has also been among the prominent Putin allies to call for the return of the death penalty.
The moratorium on the practice that Solovyov referenced was enacted by Russia in 1996 as it was working to join the Council of Europe. Its membership was, however, terminated last year after the full scale invasion of Ukraine began.
https://www.newsweek.com/putin-ally-suggests-ukraine-war-critics-shoul
d-get-death-penalty-1822692
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
TOO BAD YOUR GRAPH DOESN'T INCLUDE 2022. Because that was the start of the SMO.
Kinda makes the chart pointless, doesn't it?
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Anne Applebaum: Putin 'Is Really Destroying Modern Russia'
Anne Applebaum is a U.S. Pulitzer-Prize winning author who has written several books on Russia and the Soviet Union, including Red Famine: Stalin’s War On Ukraine.
Applebaum: The rebellion led by [former Wagner mercenary chief Yevgeny] Prigozhin was an interesting indication that some part of the Russian security apparatus already feels the war isn't worth fighting. Prigozhin said -- right before he made his quixotic trip from Rostov then more than halfway to Moscow -- this war is being fought on false pretenses. It's a war for corruption. Russian oligarchs wanted it because they're greedy, and they wanted to steal Ukrainian companies and make money off of it. And that's not a war worth people dying for. So, if he said it, that means that others surely think it.
I don't think there's any question that Putin will be remembered as the man who really set out to destroy his own country. And apart from what he did to Ukraine, apart from what he did to Georgia, to Chechnya, to Syria, this is somebody who has worsened the living standards, and freedom, and culture of Russia itself. He doesn't seem to care about the well-being or prosperity of ordinary Russians. They're just cannon fodder to him.
He's not interested in, you know, Russian achievements in infrastructure or art or in literature and in anything else. He has impoverished Russians. And he's also brought back a form of dictatorship that I think most Russians had thought they'd left behind. Remember the Putin regime for the first decade that Putin was president had elements of freedom in it. It wasn’t a totalitarian state. There was no thought police, no thought control of the kind people had known from the Soviet era. He is now slowly bringing that back. So, this is a crushing not just of dissent but a crushing of all politics, all imagination, all culture, all activity, anything independent. What he's really doing is really destroying modern Russia. And I think that's what he'll be remembered for overall.
https://www.rferl.org/a/applebaum-interview-russia-putin-history-tavbe
ridze/32552736.html
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How Russia’s War in Ukraine Could ‘Collapse’
The odds still favor Russia, both by Moltkean logic and by virtue of Russia’s massive demographic, economic, and military preponderance over Ukraine. But combatants are human, and human beings are nothing if not fallible.
By James Holmes
https://www.19fortyfive.com/2023/08/how-russias-war-in-ukraine-could-c
ollapse/
Key point from the author: “Russia doesn’t have the luxury of keeping its defensive lines short, unless it chooses to relinquish the ground behind them. And if Ukrainian forces can starve their opponent of firepower by interrupting its supplies, they could collapse the line altogether.”
Field Marshal Helmuth von Moltke the Elder, the military architect of German unification and one of history’s most famed soldiers, would instantly grasp the state of affairs in this summer of Ukrainian discontent. After Kiev and its Western backers hyped the prospects for the spring counteroffensive against Russia, the counteroffensive has posted fitful progress to date. Moltke would ascribe the disappointing results to the fact that the Ukrainian military confronts a foe waging the strongest form of warfare.
Strategic offense coupled with tactical defense.
Moltke lays out the logic succinctly: “The tactical defense is the stronger [form of war], the strategic offensive the more effective form—and the only one that leads to the goal.” In other words, the contender that seizes or occupies some object or parcel of territory, then defends it tactically, primes itself for strategic and ultimately political success. In colloquial terms: grab something and hold it, and dare your enemy to come and take it back while fighting at a daunting disadvantage. For the German sage, in short, waging offense through defense blazes a path to triumph.
Advantage: Russia. Last year the Russian Army went on the strategic offensive, seizing ground coveted by the leadership in Moscow. After a startling series of reverses in the east last fall the army spent months preparing dense, elaborate defenses-in-depth to make it difficult and costly if not impossible for Ukrainian forces to recover lost turf in Ukraine’s eastern and southern reaches. That’s the tactical-defense component of Russia’s scheme. Mission accomplished: this summer has seen a tough slog for Ukrainian warriors.
So would Moltke counsel despair for Ukraine? Does his logic mean the defender—the occupant of the contested real estate, in this case Russia—always wins?
Well, no. Little is fated amid the maelstrom of war. Pursuing Moltkean methods does bias the outcome in Russia’s favor, but in the annals of military history many defenders have been dispossessed of geographic space. Dislodging an entrenched defender simply takes some extra doing by a well-resourced, inventive, spirited attacker. Take an example close to home: the Southern Confederacy during the American Civil War. The Union wanted to not just vanquish the Confederacy but eradicate its political existence as an independent nation, much as Russia hoped to topple the Ukrainian political regime and install one subservient to Moscow.
That meant conquering the Southern foe and unseating its government.
The Confederates accomplished their strategically offensive goal by banding together to secede from the Union. Secession left them holding the disputed country from an interior position while Union forces ranged around the continental and maritime periphery. Southern generals proved shifty. They were adept at moving around the defensive perimeter on interior lines to counter Union offensives that were uncoordinated with one another in space or time. Only when meddlesome President Abraham Lincoln urged his generals to concentrate in time, striking around the Confederate periphery, in force, at the same time, did Union forces manage to punch through Confederate defenses.
Lincoln reasoned that Confederate field commanders could never blunt every one among a series of assaults that descended at different locations
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Ukraine’s counteroffensive is making substantial progress. Russia knows this, even if the West doesn’t
Jan Kallberg writes:
The bleakness of the Western commentariat’s recent output is striking — Ukraine’s counteroffensive has made little progress, they say. Major US news outlets cite intelligence agencies opining that things are “grim” and that hopes are fading that Ukraine can reach its (supposed) objective of Melitopol, more than 50 miles away.
This is simply wrong. Intelligence analysts may look at the map of Southern Ukraine and see distances; military planners will apply the military math and see something very different. They know that to crush the Russian army and strangle the troops in frontline fortifications, they don’t need to advance 50 miles. 10 miles will do it.
Why? Because although it would be great if Ukrainian troops broke through to the shores of the Sea of Azov, they do not have to. Instead, they can achieve a significant operational outcome by bringing Russia’s ground line of communication (GLOC) under their guns.
On or around August 22, Ukraine’s troops liberated the village of Robotyne, some 90km (around 55 miles) from the Sea of Azov, a major accomplishment given the enormous efforts of the Russian invaders to fortify and hold it.
From here, the Ukrainians need to advance by a further 10–15 km (7–10 miles), in order to range their guns on Russia’s east-west transport routes that are critical to the ability of its army and armed forces to fight. If Ukraine can interdict these road and rail links, it’s very hard to see how the Russian army can continue to fight.
This will not be easy, but it’s reasonable to think it will happen. This will be achieved using its indirect capability — first the M142 High Mobility Artillery Rocket System (HIMARS) and the M270 Multiple Launch Rocket Systems (MLRS), whose reach is about 80km-90km, and later its 155 mm artillery with a range of over 40km. These are hugely more capable than Ukraine’s pre-war 152mm Soviet-style artillery that have a range of only 17–20 km.
Russia’s GLOC does not run along the sands of the Azov Sea’s shores but rather inland and, therefore, closer to Ukraine’s advances. The M14 highway running east-west, and largely parallel to the coastline, is about 7km–10km from the shore. Nearby is the broader logistics corridor where the Russians place supply and ammunition dumps, fuel storage, higher-echelon command posts, reserve units, and logistic railheads.
This logistics corridor becomes increasingly narrow for every inch the Ukrainians liberate. Once the Russian assets mentioned above are within Ukrainian MLRS reach, the Russian senior leadership will have an almost impossible choice to make — will they be able to sustain operations west of Melitopol when every aspect of their fighting effort is under fire?
As winter approaches, the logistic situation west of Melitopol is likely to get worse and worse. As occurred on the western bank of the River Dnieper last fall, even Vladimir Putin will be forced to acknowledge reality – he can fight on and risk mass troop surrenders, or pull back. Either way, the so-called land bridge from Russia to Crimea will be snapped.
So Russian commanders will not think they have 90km of space to play with behind their backs. Their only consolation is that the Ukrainians can’t place MLRS artillery at the forward edge of the battle area; these units are extremely valuable and must be used from safer positions 10km–15km behind the frontline.
https://cepa.org/article/ukraine-victory-is-closer-than-you-think/
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
If Second wasn't lying and projecting his own terrible character flaws onto everyone else everyday, he might actually be a character you could root for.
29 minutes in Jack, signym, you can see a bunch of Russians trying to fix a car. They use a child as a shield so they don't get hit by a drone. The proof of what they were doing with the child is that when they can't get the car going, they leave the child alone as they drive away in another car that has shown up.
You two make me sick.
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Originally posted by THG:
29 minutes in Jack, signym, you can see a bunch of Russians trying to fix a car. They use a child as a shield so they don't get hit by a drone. The proof of what they were doing with the child is that when they can't get the car going, they leave the child alone as they drive away in another car that has shown up.
Sure they do. Nobody in their right mind would watch any dumb shit propaganda that you ingest.
And you groom and rape kids, so what the fuck do you care, pedophile? You just mad you didn't get a shot at that one.
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You two make me sick.
Good. The feeling is mutual. I hope you choke on the vomit.
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Quote:6ix, every single time you, Signym, Trump or any of his Trumptards touch a keyboard, you are explaining to the world why your lives are so very difficult. You lost touch with truth, reality, your circumstances and surroundings. The same is true about Russians explaining to the world why their lives are so difficult and fruitless. They see enemies everywhere, except North Korea, which is such a great friend for Russia. South Korea? Not a friend. Russians issue threats to nuke all those imaginary child rapists and crypto-Nazis that Russians see everywhere in the West but nowhere in Russia. Trumptards do much the same. Russians and Trumptards live in imaginary worlds of nonexistent horrors and the rest of world know you are crazy because you are the horror.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
29 minutes in Jack, signym, you can see a bunch of Russians trying to fix a car. They use a child as a shield so they don't get hit by a drone. The proof of what they were doing with the child is that when they can't get the car going, they leave the child alone as they drive away in another car that has shown up.
Sure they do. Nobody in their right mind would watch any dumb shit propaganda that you ingest.
And you groom and rape kids, so what the fuck do you care, pedophile? You just mad you didn't get a shot at that one.Quote:
You two make me sick.
Good. The feeling is mutual. I hope you choke on the vomit.
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Quote:6ix, every single time you, Signym, Trump or any of his Trumptards touch a keyboard, you are explaining to the world why your lives are so very difficult. You lost touch with truth, reality, your circumstances and surroundings. The same is true about Russians explaining to the world why their lives are so difficult and fruitless. They see enemies everywhere, except North Korea, which is such a great friend for Russia. South Korea? Not a friend. Russians issue threats to nuke all those imaginary child rapists and crypto-Nazis that Russians see everywhere in the West but nowhere in Russia. Trumptards do much the same. Russians and Trumptards live in imaginary worlds of nonexistent horrors and the rest of world know you are crazy because you are the horror.
Originally posted by second:Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
29 minutes in Jack, signym, you can see a bunch of Russians trying to fix a car. They use a child as a shield so they don't get hit by a drone. The proof of what they were doing with the child is that when they can't get the car going, they leave the child alone as they drive away in another car that has shown up.
Sure they do. Nobody in their right mind would watch any dumb shit propaganda that you ingest.
And you groom and rape kids, so what the fuck do you care, pedophile? You just mad you didn't get a shot at that one.Quote:
You two make me sick.
Good. The feeling is mutual. I hope you choke on the vomit.
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This, from the poster who comes so unglued he spews near- threats, and is so cowardly he refuses to post what he really feels
You funny!
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Dumb and dumber.
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The Delusional Belief in a Ukraine-Russia Peace Deal
Why We Should Not Bet on a Peaceful Russia
The idea that a deal with Moscow will bring peace to Ukraine is based on very flimsy assumptions.
By Alexander J. Motyl, a professor of political science at Rutgers University-Newark.
August 25, 2023, 10:46 AM
Both supporters and opponents of a negotiated agreement with Russia to end the war in Ukraine are making bets on the future. Proponents of a deal are betting that, while negotiations may not satisfy Ukraine’s aims to fully restore its territory, they will end the war and produce a genuine peace. Opponents of negotiations are betting that, while a deal with Moscow may put an end to the fighting temporarily, it will only induce Russia to resume its aggression in the near future.
Each side rests its bets on assumptions regarding the ongoing war. Supporters of negotiations believe that there is a stalemate and that a Ukrainian victory is impossible. Opponents of negotiations believe that there is no such stalemate and that a Ukrainian victory remains perfectly possible.
Which are the more realistic assumptions? And which is the safer bet? Let’s start by revisiting the assumptions that prevailed among Western policymakers and analysts before Russia launched its massive invasion of Ukraine on Feb. 24, 2022. There were of course exceptions, but the dominant assumptions were, first, that Ukraine couldn’t possibly avoid defeat and, second, that a negotiated settlement was its only path to survival—likely in a truncated form and with vassal status vis-à-vis Russia.
Both assumptions proved to be wrong: the first one almost immediately and the second after the collapse of the Istanbul negotiations in early 2022, when Ukraine offered neutrality in exchange for security guarantees. Interestingly, and perhaps not coincidentally, these are the same assumptions that supporters of negotiations have today: Ukraine cannot win, and only a deal with Russia can end the war. This doesn’t automatically mean that these assumptions are as wrong today as they were in 2022, but if the same assumptions were so fundamentally wrong before, it should at least arouse some skepticism regarding their veracity today.
So, is there a stalemate with no chance of a Ukrainian victory—or is the opposite true? The answer to this question also rests on assumptions. On the one hand, the Ukrainian counteroffensive has failed to produce any spectacular breakthroughs so far—and if the only criterion for a stalemate is the lack of spectacular breakthroughs, then, yes, there is a stalemate. If, on the other hand, incremental gains and the progressive degradation of Russian artillery, supply lines, ammunition dumps, fuel storage sites, transportation infrastructure, and command and control centers also matter, then, no, there is no stalemate.
Was World War II stalemated after the Allies landed in Normandy or the Soviets stopped the Germans at Stalingrad, both of which were followed by weeks, if not months, without a further spectacular breakthrough? Or were the smaller advances and attritional battles that followed these two events testimonies to the fact that the situation was not stalemated and that Germany would be defeated?
Regardless of whether there is a stalemate or not, is it possible for the Ukrainians to win by grinding away and never achieving a spectacular breakthrough? Of course, but only provided that the collective West continues to supply Ukraine with the needed arms. In other words, the assumptions made by supporters of negotiations aren’t really about stalemate or victory, but reflect a view about the willingness or desirability of the West to continue supporting Ukraine. That is to say, it’s not the assumption of stalemate that necessarily implies a reduction of Western military engagement in favor of negotiations. It’s the other way around: The aim of reducing that engagement, for whatever reason, implies the desirability of invoking stalemate and the impossibility of Ukrainian victory. We’ve known that Ukraine ca
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Actually, I agree with the first few sentences of the above article. (Like just about everything that SECOND posts, that's as far as I read.)
Moscow will stop fighting Ukraine if whatever remains of that country is demilitarized... ie has no standing army, is constitutionally neutral, and hs a Russia-tolerant government. Since Zelenskiy won't agree to those terms thru negotiation, it has to happen via unconditional surrender. IMHO.
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Russians Are Strangely Stumped About Why Moscow Is Getting Bombed
File under CLUELESS Russians
https://www.thedailybeast.com/russians-are-strangely-stumped-about-why
-moscow-is-getting-attacked-with-drones
Some residents near the Russian capital have taken to social media to vent about the inconvenience of being woken up in the middle of the night, question why the “international community” isn’t coming to their rescue, and blame Ukrainian “terrorists” for targeting civilian areas. (Never mind that Moscow has repeatedly attacked residential areas in Ukraine with Iranian-made Shahed drones.)
No injuries have been reported in the recent string of attacks, and Russian officials claim to have shot down most of the drones that they say caused only “minor damage” to a building in Moscow City and several broken windows elsewhere.
While Russian officials have squarely blamed “Ukrainian neo-Nazis” for what they describe as terrorist attacks on Moscow, experts have said at least some of the drone strikes are more likely to have originated from Russian territory—otherwise the drones would be flying hundreds of miles across Russian territory.
Sergei, a resident of the Moscow region who spoke to The Daily Beast on the condition of anonymity, said he and his colleagues at work had become skeptical of the drone attacks precisely because of the distance the drones would have to travel unimpeded.
“We have a theory that these drone attacks are done by our government in order to justify a new mobilization,” he said.
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‘If Ukraine is not helped, then Russia will not stop,’ warns Moldovan president
On Moldova’s Independence Day, President Maia Sandu about the war in Ukraine and the threats her own country faces from Russia. "Joining the EU is the only way to make us safe."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/if-ukraine-is-not-helped-then-rus
sia-will-not-stop-warns-moldovan-president/vi-AA1fTFad
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Actually, I agree with the first few sentences of the above article. (Like just about everything that SECOND posts, that's as far as I read.)
Moscow will stop fighting Ukraine if whatever remains of that country is demilitarized... ie has no standing army, is constitutionally neutral, and hs a Russia-tolerant government. Since Zelenskiy won't agree to those terms thru negotiation, it has to happen via unconditional surrender. IMHO.
Russian diplomats accidentally show Crimea as part of Ukraine
The Kremlin’s diplomatic mission’s official Twitter account posted a world map in which the Russian-occupied peninsula was shown as it is in actual fact under international law – an integral part of Ukraine.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-diplomats-accidentally-sh
ow-crimea-as-part-of-ukraine/ar-AA1fVQBz?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=EDGEXST&cvid=285c77d4ea914aa088a626364751a1a9&ei=75
What Russia wants is irrelevant. It always has been. You can't murder, steal land, treasures and children from your neighbor because you are paranoid, the world is out to get you.
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It's almost cute watching Ted talk foreign affairs with the childlike ignorance of his idiot Vice President.
You should worry about getting your GED before you tackle the difficult stuff, Ted.
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Quote:Of course you can! How do you think America expanded westward thru native territory, and got Texas, New Mexico, Arizona?
Originally posted by THG
What Russia wants is irrelevant. It always has been. You can't murder, steal land, treasures and children from your neighbor because you are paranoid, the world is out to get you.
US-Mexican War 1846
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Mexico cedes to the U.S. present-day California, Texas, New Mexico, Utah, Nevada, Arizona, and parts of Colorado, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska and Wyoming for $15 million
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican%E2%80%93American_War
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Quote:Conquistadors from Spain stole the land from the natives. Then the descendants of the Conquistadors, Spaniards born in North America, rather than in Spain, stole the land from Spain. Then Antonio López de Santa Anna stole the land from everybody. Then Santa Anna went to war against slave-owners who invaded his land. Santa Anna lost to those slavery loving Texans. Things start getting really complicated. The Texans, who had their very own country called, not very original, Texas. Then Texas joined the USA. The USA lost the land to the Confederacy. The Confederacy lost the land to the United States of America. Maybe the USA should not have accepted Texas for a second time as a state, but should have returned the land to the natives. But that didn't happen because a slave-owning President by the name of Andrew Johnson replaced Lincoln. The slave-owners, who no longer could legally own slaves, stole the land back again despite being forbidden by the 14th Amendment from being elected to political office in Washington D.C. and Austin, Texas and all the counties within Texas.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Of course you can! How do you think America expanded westward thru native territory, and got Texas, New Mexico, Arizona?
Originally posted by THG
What Russia wants is irrelevant. It always has been. You can't murder, steal land, treasures and children from your neighbor because you are paranoid, the world is out to get you.
US-Mexican War 1846Quote:
Mexico cedes to the U.S. present-day California, Texas, New Mexico, Utah, Nevada, Arizona, and parts of Colorado, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska and Wyoming for $15 million
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican%E2%80%93American_War
Antonio López de Santa Anna
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_L%C3%B3pez_de_Santa_Anna
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Quote:The Confederates lost the Civil War, but that didn't actually change their behavior toward slaves because the Confederates weren't executed for enslaving people. The slave-owners kept as much of the old slavery system as the Federal government would allow. Sadly, the government pretty much allowed everything to continue as before. If you lived in Texas, you'd know that (in the present day) Trumptards treat people like they are still slaves but deny that is what they do. That makes white people who are horrible Trumptards feel good about themselves but descendants of slaves know it is all a lie because they still get abused by the Trumptards. A similar situation but with much more murdering than in Texas happened in Ukraine.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Keep making Second say stupid shit Sigs.
Russia killed millions of Ukrainians, treated the survivors like slaves and, today, Russia denies its entire past history with Ukraine. The Russians weren't executed for what they did to Ukrainians, so why would the Russians not restart the old ways of treating Ukrainians? What is the big difference between today and the past? What would make Russians stop murdering Ukrainians and enslaving the survivors? Easy question to answer.
The EU, the UK, the USA are sending ammo to Ukrainians while in the past the Russians were free to murder Ukrainians because nobody sent ammo. It is completely consistent that Trumptards want to stop shipments of ammo to Ukraine. Trumptards would side with Russians against the Ukrainians because Trumptards treats everybody who is not Trumptard the same as Russians treat Ukrainians.
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A day after Ukrainian officials formally acknowledged that its forces had liberated the southeastern settlement of Robotyne, Andrey Gurulyov, a Russian parliament (Duma) member and former military commander, suggested on state TV on Tuesday that the area is "the perfect case for a tactical nuclear strike."
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-nuclear-threats-ukraine-counteroffensi
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“We urge the DPRK to cease its arms negotiations with Russia and abide by the public commitments that Pyongyang has made to not provide or sell arms to Russia.”
https://nypost.com/2023/08/30/russia-begs-north-korea-for-weapons-to-u
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Identifying attacks in the Russia–Ukraine conflict using seismic array data
Abstract
Seismometers are generally used by the research community to study local or distant earthquakes, but seismograms also contain critical observations from regional and global explosions, which can be used to better understand conflicts and identify potential breaches of international law. Although seismic, infrasound and hydroacoustic technology is used by the International Monitoring System4 to monitor nuclear explosions as part of the Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty, the detection and location of lower-yield military attacks requires a network of sensors much closer to the source of the explosions. Obtaining comprehensive and objective data that can be used to effectively monitor an active conflict zone therefore remains a substantial challenge. Here we show how seismic waves generated by explosions in northern Ukraine and recorded by a local network of seismometers can be used to automatically identify individual attacks in close to real time, providing an unprecedented view of an active conflict zone. Between February and November 2022, we observed more than 1,200 explosions from the Kyiv, Zhytomyr and Chernihiv provinces, providing accurate origin times, locations and magnitudes. We identify a range of seismoacoustic signals associated with various types of military attack, with the resulting catalogue of explosions far exceeding the number of publicly reported attacks. Our results demonstrate that seismic data can be an effective tool for objective monitoring of a continuing conflict, providing invaluable information about potential breaches of international law.
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Although media reports show the devastation associated with the war in Ukraine, obtaining a comprehensive and unbiased overview of the continuing military attacks is a substantial challenge. Social media posts and traditional media outlets all have the potential to be subjective and are, in fact, often subject to manipulation for the purpose of misinformation and propaganda. Having a more complete and objective picture showing exactly where and when attacks are taking place is vital for developing a clear understanding of the scale of a conflict, how it is progressing and identifying potential breaches of international law.
Methods of conflict monitoring
Satellite imagery has been shown to be an effective means of providing high-resolution pictures of military attacks in Ukraine. Such data are now accessible to members of the public and help to support the emerging open-source intelligence community. However, although open satellite images can provide high spatial resolution, previous knowledge is required for the time and location of the imagery. Providing comprehensive coverage across a large region in real time is beyond the capability of this technology and it thus suffers from the incompleteness that plagues traditional reporting.
Yet, satellite images are not the only source of objective conflict data. The seismic and sound waves that are generated by an explosion can propagate over hundreds of kilometres, at velocities of up to approximately 8 km s-1 in the ground and approximately 0.34 km s-1 in the air. These signals can be recorded by seismometers and microbarometers at high sampling rates (typically between 40 and 200 Hz), which can help monitor a conflict in real time.
More at https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06416-7
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EU to consider proposals to speed up delivery of artillery shells to Ukraine
Wed, August 30, 2023 at 4:14 PM CDT·1 min read
Josep Borrell, High Representative of the European Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy, has expressed readiness to discuss options to speed up the supply of artillery shells to Ukraine in accordance with the EU plan.
Details: The EU's top diplomat previously noted that member states have jointly delivered around 224,000 artillery shells and about 2,300 missiles from their stockpiles, while work on the other tracks - contracts with private businesses and the expansion of domestic production - continues.
Asked whether he was concerned about the slow progress in supplying artillery shells to Ukraine, Borrell said the EU would consider Slovakia's proposal to modernise outdated shells.
"If member states are unable to provide more from their stockpiles, this is only an incentive for them to increase production capacity and do so faster and better. Más y más rápido (more and faster)," he said.
Previously: In March, the Council of the European Union approved a three-track plan to supply Ukraine with one million artillery shells: (1) supplying from its own stockpiles; (2) signing contracts with private companies; and (3) ramping up its own production.
The two-billion-euro plan provides for the supply of one million rounds of ammunition to Ukraine within 12 months.
As part of the third track, the Ammunition Support Act Production (ASAP) Regulation, developed in the European Union to increase the production of ammunition and missiles, came into force in July.
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Originally posted by SECOND:Quote:The Confederates lost the Civil War, but that didn't actually change their behavior toward slaves because the Confederates weren't executed for enslaving people. The slave-owners kept as much of the old slavery system as the Federal government would allow. Sadly, the government pretty much allowed everything to continue as before. If you lived in Texas, you'd know that (in the present day) Trumptards treat people like they are still slaves but deny that is what they do. That makes white people who are horrible Trumptards feel good about themselves but descendants of slaves know it is all a lie because they still get abused by the Trumptards. A similar situation but with much more murdering than in Texas happened in Ukraine.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Keep making Second say stupid shit Sigs.
Russia killed millions of Ukrainians, treated the survivors like slaves and, today, Russia denies its entire past history with Ukraine. The Russians weren't executed for what they did to Ukrainians, so why would the Russians not restart the old ways of treating Ukrainians? What is the big difference between today and the past? What would make Russians stop murdering Ukrainians and enslaving the survivors? Easy question to answer.
The EU, the UK, the USA are sending ammo to Ukrainians while in the past the Russians were free to murder Ukrainians because nobody sent ammo. It is completely consistent that Trumptards want to stop shipments of ammo to Ukraine. Trumptards would side with Russians against the Ukrainians because Trumptards treats everybody who is not Trumptard the same as Russians treat Ukrainians.
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Not siding with Russia, dumbfuck.
Not siding with Ukraine either.
Fuck Ukraine. Fuck Russia. And fuck you too.
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Quote:Traditionally, Russia threatens to nuke the USA about 20 times per month, which has panicked voters since Aug. 29, 1949. The USA spent more than $10 trillion on nukes to dissuade Russia from actually nuking the USA. The USA will spend many trillions more in the future unless somebody, Ukraine for example, beats some sense into Russia.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Not siding with Russia, dumbfuck.
Not siding with Ukraine either.
Fuck Ukraine. Fuck Russia. And fuck you too.
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Originally posted by SECOND:Quote:Traditionally, Russia threatens to nuke the USA about 20 times per month, which has panicked voters since Aug. 29, 1949. The USA spent more than $10 trillion on nukes to dissuade Russia from actually nuking the USA. The USA will spend many trillions more in the future unless somebody, Ukraine for example, beats some sense into Russia.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Not siding with Russia, dumbfuck.
Not siding with Ukraine either.
Fuck Ukraine. Fuck Russia. And fuck you too.
Maybe we should put it to a vote then and anybody who says they are panicked about Russia's empty threats can pay the taxes then. There has not been one single second of my entire life where the fear of a nuke coming our way from Russia has been a thing that exists.
"The USA" isn't spending that money on account of Russia. The crooked politicians who all get rich once they get into office are siphoning off money from the American People and pocketing some of it while enriching the ever-growing war-machine.
And none of them give a single fuck about Ukraine or the Ukrainians either.
I might not give a shit about them, but I don't want to see them die, nor am I making a huge profit off of sending 2 generations of Ukrainian men marching toward their deaths.
You two morons really need to think long and hard about who the real bad guys are here.
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Quote:6ixStringJack, it must be a constant buzz/thrill for you to know you are overflowing with courage and goodness. Meanwhile, Ukrainians know that Russians killed 4 million of them when they passively resisted. The next Russian killing spree will have even larger Ukrainian death tolls. How can that be predicted? Because Russians killed 64 million Russians over merely political differences so the Russians will kill all the Ukrainians this time, since Ukrainians are violently resisting. That is why Ukrainians fight back.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Maybe we should put it to a vote then and anybody who says they are panicked about Russia's empty threats can pay the taxes then. There has not been one single second of my entire life where the fear of a nuke coming our way from Russia has been a thing that exists.
"The USA" isn't spending that money on account of Russia. The crooked politicians who all get rich once they get into office are siphoning off money from the American People and pocketing some of it while enriching the ever-growing war-machine.
And none of them give a single fuck about Ukraine or the Ukrainians either.
I might not give a shit about them, but I don't want to see them die, nor am I making a huge profit off of sending 2 generations of Ukrainian men marching toward their deaths.
You two morons really need to think long and hard about who the real bad guys are here.
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Why does Russia still deny the Holodomor?
https://holodomormuseum.org.ua/en/news/why-does-russia-still-deny-the-
holodomor/
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Originally posted by SECOND:Quote:6ixStringJack, it must be a constant buzz/thrill for you to know you are overflowing with courage and goodness.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Maybe we should put it to a vote then and anybody who says they are panicked about Russia's empty threats can pay the taxes then. There has not been one single second of my entire life where the fear of a nuke coming our way from Russia has been a thing that exists.
"The USA" isn't spending that money on account of Russia. The crooked politicians who all get rich once they get into office are siphoning off money from the American People and pocketing some of it while enriching the ever-growing war-machine.
And none of them give a single fuck about Ukraine or the Ukrainians either.
I might not give a shit about them, but I don't want to see them die, nor am I making a huge profit off of sending 2 generations of Ukrainian men marching toward their deaths.
You two morons really need to think long and hard about who the real bad guys are here.
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Speak for yourself, worm.
I'm not the pussy cheerleading the media-endorsed war and money-sink from the comfort of his mom's basement.
You've never had a single courageous moment in your life, boy.
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Quote:6ix, Russia murdered millions of Ukrainians in the past. Russia is murdering more, today. Russia threatens to murder Americans with nukes because America sends ammo to Ukraine to fight back against the murderous Russians. 6ix, the villains in the Ukrainian War are Russians. You have not figured that out, have you? How you do anything, 6ix, is how you, 6ix, do everything and you, 6ix, can't even understand that there is only one set of villains, the Russians.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I'm not the pussy cheerleading the media-endorsed war and money-sink from the comfort of his mom's basement.
How you do anything is how you do everything.
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You're so propagandized you've been lobotomized.
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Quote:I expect you to say that you never listen to Tucker Carlson and yet you are compatible with his worldview of the war in Ukraine.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
You're so propagandized you've been lobotomized.
Russian Propagandist Says Tucker Carlson Is a ‘Dead Man Walking’
“If I were in his place, I would tell no one of my travel routes,” Russia’s most prominent propagandist, Vladimir Solovyov, warned the former Fox News host.
Julia Davis, Updated Sep. 01, 2023 7:01AM EDT
On Thursday, Russia’s most prominent propagandist, Vladimir Solovyov, pompously predicted that soon there might be another potential victim: former Fox News host and podcaster Tucker Carlson. The latest broadcast of The Evening With Vladimir Solovyov featured multiple clips of Carlson’s predictions, including his claim that the U.S. government is getting ready to go to war with Russia — a war he implied the U.S. would lose.
In a series of clips selected for Solovyov’s program, Carlson accused both Congressional Republicans and Democrats of being “insane” and hysterical, predicting that a war between the U.S. and Russia would start next year.
Solovyov theatrically asked, “Who says that? A dead man walking! He sincerely believes that the next step after the accusations and the declaration of impeachment will be an assassination of Trump. But this man, who is currently the most popular English-speaking journalist, signed his own death warrant!”
During his evening show, Solovyov predicted dire consequences that would follow Carlson’s persistent attempts to score a sit-down with the Russian president: “I can’t rule out that in the near future, as he is leaving Europe, there will either be an air crash or something will happen to the car in which he will be traveling, or he might eat something that he shouldn’t, maybe his heart will suddenly stop! If I were in his place, I would tell no one of my travel routes.”
The warnings sounded like something that might have been useful to someone like Prigozhin or numerous people who found themselves on the wrong side of Putin and ended up paying the ultimate price. Perhaps they were also useful in attempting to persuade the domestic audiences that Russia is not the only place in turmoil and political assassinations are quite common all over the globe.
Ratcheting up the conspiratorial mood permeating the studio, Solovyov expressly agreed with Carlson’s outlandish predictions of the impending Armageddon. He pontificated, “We are on the verge of a global hot war! It’s unavoidable because it benefits everyone!”
He dramatically added, “These are the end times! We should realize this.”
https://www.thedailybeast.com/russian-propagandist-vladimir-solovyov-s
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
You're so propagandized you've been lobotomized.
No. I don't watch Tucker Carlson. I didn't even watch his interview with Trump on the first GOP Debate night.
He might share similar opinions with me. I wouldn't know.
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Quote:What Tucke should be careful of is lawfare. Large corporate and security interets want to see him shut up, which means under a gag order, broke, and/or in prison. I'm just waiting for the lawsuits and indictments.
Originally posted by SECOND:Quote:I expect you to say that you never listen to Tucker Carlson and yet you are compatible with his worldview of the war in Ukraine.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
You're so propagandized you've been lobotomized.
Russian Propagandist Says Tucker Carlson Is a ‘Dead Man Walking’
“If I were in his place, I would tell no one of my travel routes,” Russia’s most prominent propagandist, Vladimir Solovyov, warned the former Fox News host.
Julia Davis, Updated Sep. 01, 2023 7:01AM EDT
On Thursday, Russia’s most prominent propagandist, Vladimir Solovyov, pompously predicted that soon there might be another potential victim: former Fox News host and podcaster Tucker Carlson. The latest broadcast of The Evening With Vladimir Solovyov featured multiple clips of Carlson’s predictions, including his claim that the U.S. government is getting ready to go to war with Russia — a war he implied the U.S. would lose.
In a series of clips selected for Solovyov’s program, Carlson accused both Congressional Republicans and Democrats of being “insane” and hysterical, predicting that a war between the U.S. and Russia would start next year.
Solovyov theatrically asked, “Who says that? A dead man walking! He sincerely believes that the next step after the accusations and the declaration of impeachment will be an assassination of Trump. But this man, who is currently the most popular English-speaking journalist, signed his own death warrant!”
During his evening show, Solovyov predicted dire consequences that would follow Carlson’s persistent attempts to score a sit-down with the Russian president: “I can’t rule out that in the near future, as he is leaving Europe, there will either be an air crash or something will happen to the car in which he will be traveling, or he might eat something that he shouldn’t, maybe his heart will suddenly stop! If I were in his place, I would tell no one of my travel routes.”
The warnings sounded like something that might have been useful to someone like Prigozhin or numerous people who found themselves on the wrong side of Putin and ended up paying the ultimate price. Perhaps they were also useful in attempting to persuade the domestic audiences that Russia is not the only place in turmoil and political assassinations are quite common all over the globe.
Ratcheting up the conspiratorial mood permeating the studio, Solovyov expressly agreed with Carlson’s outlandish predictions of the impending Armageddon. He pontificated, “We are on the verge of a global hot war! It’s unavoidable because it benefits everyone!”
He dramatically added, “These are the end times! We should realize this.”
https://www.thedailybeast.com/russian-propagandist-vladimir-solovyov-s
ays-tucker-carlson-is-a-dead-man-walking
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Traditionally, Russia threatens to nuke the USA about 20 times per month, which has panicked voters since Aug. 29, 1949. The USA spent more than $10 trillion on nukes to dissuade Russia from actually nuking the USA. The USA will spend many trillions more in the future unless somebody, Ukraine for example, beats some sense into Russia.
Oh, but you forgot the best part, SECOND.
It was the USA that developed the atom bomb first, the USA (and only the USA) that used the atom bomb first- twice(!), developed the hydrogen bomb first, and the USA that has pulled out of most nuclear arms treaties with Russia.
Everything that USSR/Russia has done since WWII is a RESPONSE to everything we've done.
The person who's paranoid is you. If we stopped attacking Russia, they could stop defending themselves. Altho, by now, they know our permanent state is crazy and dishonest (yanno, like you) and is dedicated to their destruction, so at this point they have no interest in talking to anyone in DC: Democrat, Republican, elected official, permanent staff, security or military ... pretty much a bag of nuts and morons.
BTW SIX: Russia's threats AREN'T empty. But their threats are also measured. They have not committed to "no first use". Nuclear weapons are on the table, but also a last reort.
Given that our administrations are mostly nuts, incompetent, or corrupt (or all three!) from the top down through the first four or five layers, I don't know if they have a rational thought in their heads. I wouldn't count on sane policies from most of them.
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BTW SIX: Russia's threats AREN'T empty. But their threats are also measured. They have not committed to "no first use". Nuclear weapons are on the table, but also a last reort.
Given that our administrations are mostly nuts, incompetent, or corrupt (or all three!) from the top down through the first four or five layers, I don't know if they have a rational thought in their heads. I wouldn't count on sane policies from most of them.
They're virtually empty. I'm still not afraid of this scenario playing out in the slightest. Even with the Joe Biden* puppet show we're currently enduring, and even with Obama pulling UN/NATO strings.
Russia's powerful enough to keep it escalating to the Last Resort. They're not wack-job jihadists over there. They know if they launch the nukes that's the end of the world as we know it.
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Russia doesn't bluff, SIX. They do pretty much what they say they'll do. They fulfill their contracts, meet their treaty obligations, and stand by their promises. They've been harping on NATO's eastward expansion since at least 2007, and have said over and over that Ukraine in NATO is a red line. The problem is, we (the collective west) don't take them seriously. We bought our own bullshit about Russia being a gas station masquerading as a country and thought we could break every promise and diddle them along with "talks" and "agreements" designed to buy time to arm Ukraine. Russia WILL use nukes if they think it's necessary.
Fortunately for us, they have conventional "escalatory dominance" (per Obama) so as long as we stick to conventional weapons they probably will too.
PS: They have nuclear escalatory dominance, too. But TPTB here don't know that either, and that's what makes them dangerous.
Edited to add: At one time Russia even asked to be a NATO member. They were willing to work with the west. It was our policies that turned them into an implacable enemy. At this point I don't know if we can retrace our steps.
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Quote:What happened after WWII? Russia killed two million German civilians who were forced out of areas Russia controlled and sent to East Germany. Russia denies killing any Germans. Meanwhile, the USA killed none and West Germany prospered under the USA, UK and French. East Germany did not prosper.
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Originally posted by SECOND:
Traditionally, Russia threatens to nuke the USA about 20 times per month, which has panicked voters since Aug. 29, 1949. The USA spent more than $10 trillion on nukes to dissuade Russia from actually nuking the USA. The USA will spend many trillions more in the future unless somebody, Ukraine for example, beats some sense into Russia.
Oh, but you forgot the best part, SECOND.
It was the USA that developed the atom bomb first, the USA (and only the USA) that used the atom bomb first- twice(!), developed the hydrogen bomb first, and the USA that has pulled out of most nuclear arms treaties with Russia.
Everything that USSR/Russia has done since WWII is a RESPONSE to everything we've done.
The person who's paranoid is you. If we stopped attacking Russia, they could stop defending themselves. Altho, by now, they know our permanent state is crazy and dishonest (yanno, like you) and is dedicated to their destruction, so at this point they have no interest in talking to anyone in DC: Democrat, Republican, elected official, permanent staff, security or military ... pretty much a bag of nuts and morons.
BTW SIX: Russia's threats AREN'T empty. But their threats are also measured. They have not committed to "no first use". Nuclear weapons are on the table, but also a last reort.
Given that our administrations are mostly nuts, incompetent, or corrupt (or all three!) from the top down through the first four or five layers, I don't know if they have a rational thought in their heads. I wouldn't count on sane policies from most of them.
After WWII, Russia killed ten million political prisoners. Russia denies killing any prisoners. This is years after the Purges of the 1930s. Meanwhile, the USA killed none except for some Branch Davidians who felt their gun-ownership and religious rights were not being respected by the USA.
After WWII, Russia set North Korea up. That little country is a killing machine of its own citizens. Tens of millions of North Koreans died and the remainder live in poverty. North Korea denies killing anybody, the same false denials that come regularly out of Russia. Meanwhile, the USA set South Korea into motion where Koreans have prospered and grown rich selling cars, washing machines, and TVs to the USA.
You already know how North Korea followed Russia's example of threatening to nuke the neighborhood of Japan, South Korea and the USA. It is impossible to believe North Korean claims that it built H-bombs to bring peace which the USA would ruin if North Korea had no H-bomb. Russia makes exactly the same claims about its peaceful H-bombs bringing love and prosperity to the world.
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Quote:SECOND, you KNOW I'm posting about USA v USSR-Russia arms race.
Originally posted by SECOND:
Traditionally, Russia threatens to nuke the USA about 20 times per month, which has panicked voters since Aug. 29, 1949. The USA spent more than $10 trillion on nukes to dissuade Russia from actually nuking the USA. The USA will spend many trillions more in the future unless somebody, Ukraine for example, beats some sense into Russia.
SIGNYM: Oh, but you forgot the best part, SECOND.
It was the USA that developed the atom bomb first, the USA (and only the USA) that used the atom bomb first- twice(!), developed the hydrogen bomb first, and the USA that has pulled out of most nuclear arms treaties with Russia.
Everything that USSR/Russia has done since WWII is a RESPONSE to everything we've done.
The person who's paranoid is you. If we stopped attacking Russia, they could stop defending themselves. Altho, by now, they know our permanent state is crazy and dishonest (yanno, like you) and is dedicated to their destruction, so at this point they have no interest in talking to anyone in DC: Democrat, Republican, elected official, permanent staff, security or military ... pretty much a bag of nuts and morons.
BTW SIX: Russia's threats AREN'T empty. But their threats are also measured. They have not committed to "no first use". Nuclear weapons are on the table, but also a last reort.
Given that our administrations are mostly nuts, incompetent, or corrupt (or all three!) from the top down through the first four or five layers, I don't know if they have a rational thought in their heads. I wouldn't count on sane policies from most of them.
SECOND: What happened after WWII? Russia killed two million German civilians who were forced out of areas Russia controlled and sent to East Germany. Russia denies killing any Germans. Meanwhile, the USA killed none and West Germany prospered under the USA, UK and French. East Germany did not prosper.
After WWII, Russia killed ten million political prisoners. Russia denies killing any prisoners. This is years after the Purges of the 1930s. Meanwhile, the USA killed none except for some Branch Davidians who felt their gun-ownership and religious rights were not being respected by the USA.
After WWII, Russia set North Korea up. That little country is a killing machine of its own citizens. Tens of millions of North Koreans died and the remainder live in poverty. North Korea denies killing anybody, the same false denials that come regularly out of Russia. Meanwhile, the USA set South Korea into motion where Koreans have prospered and grown rich selling cars, washing machines, and TVs to the USA.
You already know how North Korea followed Russia's example of threatening to nuke the neighborhood of Japan, South Korea and the USA. It is impossible to believe North Korean claims that it built H-bombs to bring peace which the USA would ruin if North Korea had no H-bomb. Russia makes exactly the same claims about its peaceful H-bombs bringing love and prosperity to the world.
BTW...
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At the end of World War II, the U.S. opened camps of its own, where perhaps a million German prisoners died in secret.
https://allthatsinteresting.com/rheinwiesenlager
Yanno, I read this 30 years ago. While I never believed this word for word, there was enough evidence to take the shine off the USA being King Arthur and Jesus Christ all rolled into one.
In your 73 years, have you learned nothing???
Apparently!
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Quote:Signym's "sources": . . . took in millions of German prisoners in the summer of 1945 and deliberately starved as many as one in four of them to death, according to the highest estimates.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
BTW...Quote:
At the end of World War II, the U.S. opened camps of its own, where perhaps a million German prisoners died in secret.
https://allthatsinteresting.com/rheinwiesenlager
Yanno, I read this 30 years ago. While I never believed this word for word, there was enough evidence to take the shine off the USA being King Arthur and Jesus Christ all rolled into one.
In your 73 years, have you learned nothing???
Apparently!
In contrast, the Wiki writes: 1,000,000 ~ 1,900,000 prisoners
3,000 ~ 6,000 deaths
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rheinwiesenlager
Signym, you are doing a But-What-About propaganda attack, a technique perfected by Russians and used extensively by Trumptards.
Signym, the Russians killed millions of civilians, both German and Russian, after WWII. Ukrainians know all about it, plus Holodomor, which is why Ukrainians are not surrendering to the Russians.
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Russia doesn't bluff, SIX. They do pretty much what they say they'll do. They fulfill their contracts, meet their treaty obligations, and stand by their promises. They've been harping on NATO's eastward expansion since at least 2007, and have said over and over that Ukraine in NATO is a red line. The problem is, we (the collective west) don't take them seriously. We bought our own bullshit about Russia being a gas station masquerading as a country and thought we could break every promise and diddle them along with "talks" and "agreements" designed to buy time to arm Ukraine. Russia WILL use nukes if they think it's necessary.
Not all bluffs are on a 2-7 offsuit hand. I'm not saying that Russia CAN'T make good on that bluff if they felt it was necessary. They obviously have a much stronger hand than a 2-7 offsuit. But it's still a bluff. They're not looking to destroy the world any more than anyone pulling the strings here are. The people running our country want to rule the world, but none of them want to run a bombed out radioactive waste of a world.
That would be some end-of-times shit, and quite frankly, we're not even close to being there yet. Russia is just as likely as the US to escalate to nuclear weapons, which is to say it's about as likely as winning a Billion Dollar Powerball.
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Fortunately for us, they have conventional "escalatory dominance" (per Obama) so as long as we stick to conventional weapons they probably will too.
PS: They have nuclear escalatory dominance, too. But TPTB here don't know that either, and that's what makes them dangerous.
Oh. They know it. They're dumb like a fox. It's the morons like Second and Ted that just parrot all their lies that believe them. They don't believe their own lies.
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Edited to add: At one time Russia even asked to be a NATO member. They were willing to work with the west. It was our policies that turned them into an implacable enemy. At this point I don't know if we can retrace our steps.
Yanno... Most of my life, Russia hasn't been an enemy other than an adversary in Olympic Hockey and Gymnastics. Most of this begins and ends with the Clintons and whoever has been pulling their strings.
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Oh. They know it. They're dumb like a fox. It's the morons like Second and Ted that just parrot all their lies that believe them. They don't believe their own lies.Quote:
Edited to add: At one time Russia even asked to be a NATO member. They were willing to work with the west. It was our policies that turned them into an implacable enemy. At this point I don't know if we can retrace our steps.
Yanno... Most of my life, Russia hasn't been an enemy other than an adversary in Olympic Hockey and Gymnastics. Most of this begins and ends with the Clintons and whoever has been pulling their strings.
Russia did this yesterday: A strategic next-generation missile that Russian President Vladimir Putin once described as “invincible” has been deployed for combat duty, the head of state space agency Roscosmos said Friday.
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/09/01/russia-deploys-sarmat-icbm-f
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Since Russia killed 64 million Russians over political differences, I'm sure there will some day be a Russian Czar who would kill 64 million Americans over political differences. That Czar might be named Putin.
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At the end of World War II, the U.S. opened camps of its own, where perhaps a million German prisoners died in secret.
https://allthatsinteresting.com/rheinwiesenlager
Yanno, I read this 30 years ago. While I never believed this word for word, there was enough evidence to take the shine off the USA being King Arthur and Jesus Christ all rolled into one.
In your 73 years, have you learned nothing???
Apparently!
SECOND: Signym's "sources": . . . took in millions of German prisoners in the summer of 1945 and deliberately starved as many as one in four of them to death, according to the highest estimates.
And SECOND says
Quote:which, even according to Wikipedia, is wrong, wrong, wrong.
Meanwhile, the USA killed none
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"Other Losses" is a 1989 book by Canadian writer James Bacque, which makes the claim that U.S. General Dwight D. Eisenhower intentionally caused the deaths by starvation or exposure of around a million German prisoners of war held in Western internment camps after the Second World War. "Other Losses" charges that hundreds of thousands of German prisoners that had fled the Eastern front were designated as "Disarmed Enemy Forces" [not POW] in order to avoid recognition under the Geneva Convention (1929), for the purpose of carrying out their deaths through disease or slow starvation. "Other Losses" cites documents in the U.S. National Archives and interviews with people who stated they witnessed the events. The book claims that a "method of genocide" was present in the banning of Red Cross inspectors, the returning of food aid, soldier ration policy, and policy regarding shelter
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Other_Losses
Quote:No, I'm simly rebutting YOUR fatuous claim that the USA killed not a single soldier/ 'disarmed enemy forces'/ "enemy combatant". Since you're CLEARLY WRONG in your statement, all that's left is to argue numbers
SECOND: Signym, you are doing a But-What-About propaganda attack, a technique perfected by Russians and used extensively by Trumptards.
Oh, and to call names (your go-to dodge) and claim "whataboutism" (one of your other favorite dodges).
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Oh. They know it. They're dumb like a fox. It's the morons like Second and Ted that just parrot all their lies that believe them. They don't believe their own lies.*
SIGNY: Edited to add: At one time Russia even asked to be a NATO member. They were willing to work with the west. It was our policies that turned them into an implacable enemy. At this point I don't know if we can retrace our steps.
SIX: Yanno... Most of my life, Russia hasn't been an enemy other than an adversary in Olympic Hockey and Gymnastics. Most of this begins and ends with the Clintons and whoever has been pulling their strings.
SECOND: Russia did this yesterday: A strategic next-generation missile that Russian President Vladimir Putin once described as “invincible” has been deployed for combat duty, the head of state space agency Roscosmos said Friday.
And what's your answer to this, SECOND? Run another regime change operation on Russia's border? Place nuclear missiles within 5 minutes of Moscow? Threaten and bluster some more, and back out of the last remaining nuclear treaty? Stomp all over Russia's CLEARLY STATED RED LINES?
Oh, yeah. THAT'LL show them!
*Well, if there are rational PTB they can step in any time now! Because their meat puppets, Biden*, Bliken, Nuland, and Sullivan, and the rest of the deep deep state have gone rogue, and I don't know if the masters of the universe (as they think of themselves) can put the genie back in the bottle. Yanno, things have gone haywire for well-established empires before. How will TPTB react when they see everything crumbling around them?
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Oh. They know it. They're dumb like a fox. It's the morons like Second and Ted that just parrot all their lies that believe them. They don't believe their own lies.*
SIGNY: Edited to add: At one time Russia even asked to be a NATO member. They were willing to work with the west. It was our policies that turned them into an implacable enemy. At this point I don't know if we can retrace our steps.
SIX: Yanno... Most of my life, Russia hasn't been an enemy other than an adversary in Olympic Hockey and Gymnastics. Most of this begins and ends with the Clintons and whoever has been pulling their strings.
SECOND: Russia did this yesterday: A strategic next-generation missile that Russian President Vladimir Putin once described as “invincible” has been deployed for combat duty, the head of state space agency Roscosmos said Friday.
And what's your answer to this, SECOND? Run another regime change operation on Russia's border? Place nuclear missiles within 5 minutes of Moscow? Threaten and bluster some more, and back out of the last remaining nuclear treaty? Stomp all over Russia's CLEARLY STATED RED LINES?
Oh, yeah. THAT'LL show them!
*Well, if there are rational PTB they can step in any time now! Because their meat puppets, Biden*, Bliken, Nuland, and Sullivan, and the rest of the deep deep state have gone rogue, and I don't know if the masters of the universe (as they think of themselves) can put the genie back in the bottle. Yanno, things have gone haywire for well-established empires before. How will TPTB react when they see everything crumbling around them?
Were there ever rational PTB?
I don't believe that the real PTB today are any different than the real PTB of yesterday. You can diversity hire the public face of things into oblivion, but those don't ever change.
They know what they're doing. We're all playing checkers and they're all playing Chess.
To them, none of this is crumbling around them. They've got theirs, and short of a world-ending event, they'll always have theirs. If the middle class gets gutted along the way, that was part of their plan. And why wouldn't they want to see that result... especially with the gross overpopulation of the planet?
Russia ain't going to use any nukes. The US isn't going to either. Even Lil' Kim isn't ever going to fire any nukes from North Korea. They just like whipping their dicks out to remind everyone that they've got 'em.
No man is infallible though. Though I put the chances of nuclear war at 0%, they'd better really think long and hard about the biological warfare. One of these days they're going to put some designer bioweapon out there that they were sure they had 100% control of and find out that they didn't have a contingency plan in place for when it mutated beyond their expectations. One day they're going to wind up killing 8 Billion people and spend the next 50 years living in bunkers with the rest of the 0.001% with nobody left alive to do their slave work.
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Quote:From the article you are quoting: The New Orleans panel's book introduction concluded "that Bacque is wrong on nearly every major and nearly all his minor charges seem to us to be overwhelmingly obvious. To sum up: Eisenhower was not a Hitler, he did not run death camps, German prisoners did not die by the hundreds of thousands, there was indeed a severe world food shortage in 1945, there was nothing sinister or secret about DEF designation or about the Other Losses column. Bacque's "Missing Million" were old and young boys in the militia dismissed early from the American camps; they were escapees from camps and POWs/DEFs transferred from camp to camp in Germany and Europe for various reasons."[43]
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Other_Losses
Signym, you wrote falsehoods or, at even worst, you deliberately are misleading.
On the other hand, Russians deliberately slayed millions after peace was declared in WWII, so Ukrainians would not be surrendering to Russians during this most recent war.
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Why were Red Cross inspections not allowed? Why was a separate category created ("disarmed enemy force" similar to our "enemy combatant") which placed the prisoners - clearly POWs - outside of the Geneva Convention? Was some kind of rationale ever expressed...eg fear that free communication to outsiders might create some sort of resistance movement? Or was it just knowledge that due to the food and materiel shortage in Europe (and USA commander reluctance to request massive allotments for former enemies) that prisoners would be on starvation rations and not held under required conditions?
On what basis did New Orleans (sic) book panel decide he was wrong? Did they do a separate investigation? Go to original sources.. food allotments for the camps, transfer or release documents, numbers of blankets and bunks and toilets etc. Or do we have only the military's word that everything was fine? Or did we release prisoners to local custody where we knew they would be mistreated?
AS I POSTED, I didn't believe the book word for word. In fact, I disputed it vigorously when I read it. But it made me realize that I had nothing but ASSUMPTION on my part, and it raised enough questions backed by evidence (photos, manifests, testimony) that I realized the whole issue actually would need a detailed investigation in order to be resolved. So to me the issue is unresolved.
But I don't ASSUME, as you did SECOND, that we didn't kill or mistreat anyone.
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And now, back to the topic at-hand: Ukraine's counteroffensive is clearly failing. Over two months, an estimated 40,000+ have been killed. Zelenskiy is going to dragoon people off the streets: he wants to raise another 200,000 now and 300,000 in the winter.
So the question is: what will Russia do? Will they come out from behind their defenses?
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If you want to know the real history of Russia- not the cartoon that SECOND always pushrs- listen to the first 5-8 minutes of Ray McGovern. Ray is a former CIA analyst on Russia, and an advisor to Presidents. He knows the Russian language, Russian history , and Russian politics.
If you care to listen further, they discuss why Biden* is so desperate to remain President. But I'll address that in the thread about 2024 elections.
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And now, back to the topic at-hand: Ukraine's counteroffensive is clearly failing. Over two months, an estimated 40,000+ have been killed. Zelenskiy is going to dragoon people off the streets: he wants to raise another 200,000 now and 300,000 in the winter.
So the question is: what will Russia do? Will they come out from behind their defenses?
Ukraine deals “crushing blow” to Russian soldiers in Bakhmut
Ukraine has dealt a “crushing blow” to Russian ground forces in Bakhmut. This reports the German news website n-tv.de with reference to a corresponding Telegram post by Colonel General Oleksandr Syrskyi, commander of Ukrainian ground forces.
According to the report, Ukrainian soldiers would continue to advance on the front line near Bakhmut. “The soldiers are constantly destroying Russian equipment and manpower.” The 22nd Separate Mechanized Brigade was deployed on the ground, he said. A BM-21 “Grad” missile system had delivered a devastating blow to enemy infantry. To back up the statement, Syrskyi posted a video to the post. “Combat operations continue,” Syrskyi concludes at the end of his report.
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If you want to know the real history of Russia- not the cartoon that SECOND always pushrs- listen to the first 5-8 minutes of Ray McGovern. Ray is a former CIA analyst on Russia, and an advisor to Presidents. He knows the Russian language, Russian history , and Russian politics.
If you care to listen further, they discuss why Biden* is so desperate to remain President. But I'll address that in the thread about 2024 elections.
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If you want to know the real history of Russia- not the cartoon that SECOND always pushrs- listen to the first 5-8 minutes of Ray McGovern. Ray is a former CIA analyst on Russia, and an advisor to Presidents. He knows the Russian language, Russian history , and Russian politics.
If you care to listen further, they discuss why Biden* is so desperate to remain President. But I'll address that in the thread about 2024 elections.
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Quote:Russia's real history is reenacted by North Korea today:
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North Korea stages mock 'nuclear attack', 9 hours ago
Pyongyang's intent was to show strength and "warn enemies."
As part of the drill, mock atomic warheads attached to two long-range missiles were testfired off the west coast of the country.
South Korea's joint chief of staff confirmed on Saturday that an unspecified number of cruise missiles were launched toward the Yellow Sea.
Pyongyang said that the joint exercises reflected how the US and South Korea were pursuing "confrontation hysteria."
That statement came even as North Korea this year has conducted a record number of weapons tests.
UN resolutions prohibit isolated North Korea from launching and testing ballistic missiles of any range.
https://www.dw.com/en/north-korea-stages-mock-nuclear-attack/a-6670562
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Signym, North Korea also slaughtered tens of millions of North Koreans, reenacting that part of Russian history. Identical to Russian history, the most capable North Koreans left the country, leaving the less capable Koreans to run things poorly. The prosperity gap between North and South Korea proves the less capable remain in North Korea. The prosperity gap between Russia and the EU proves the less capable remain in Russia.
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New Russian Schoolbooks Preach Hatred of Ukraine and the West
Alexey Kovalev, Sunday September 3, 2023, 7:00 AM
When some million and a half 10th- and 11th-graders across Russia and the Russian-occupied territories of Ukraine started the school year on Friday, they received new textbooks for their history classes. Of these, the most notable is the new 11th-grade Russian history text, hastily written at the direction of a Kremlin aide to justify what the Russian government calls the “special military operation” in Ukraine. Along with the other new schoolbooks, this volume marks the latest step in the Kremlin’s years-long effort to rewrite the Russian and Soviet past for the purposes of historical whitewashing and patriotic indoctrination.
The new textbook, titled History of Russia: 1945 to the Early 21st Century, serves an obvious purpose: to imprint the Kremlin’s version of its war against Ukraine on the next generation, including thousands of young Ukrainians in the territories still occupied by Russia. Leaked online after its presentation to Russian education authorities early last month, the textbook has been blasted by Western experts and exiled Russian journalists as a wholesale falsification of commonly accepted facts—even many facts previously accepted in Russia. On Friday, Amnesty International denounced the book as a “blatant attempt to unlawfully indoctrinate school children in Russia and Russian-occupied Ukrainian territories,” pointing out that teachers in the occupied parts of Ukraine “are at risk of violence, arbitrary detention and ill-treatment” if they refuse to teach the material.
If the book’s final chapter glorifying Russia’s brutal war has rightfully attracted attention, what’s even more illuminating is the entire book’s obsession with Ukraine. Over more than 400 pages, Ukraine is mentioned more often than any other former Soviet or Russian possession. Its supposedly central role in Russia’s own history is unambiguously promoted, while Ukrainian independence and alignment with Europe are “unthinkable” and “civilization-ending.” Tellingly, the co-author of and main force behind the book, Vladimir Medinsky, is no historian, but a former journalist and public relations operative who was once Russia’s minister of culture. As a propagandist, he was part of Russian President Vladimir Putin’s Commission to Counter Attempts to Falsify History to the Detriment of Russia’s Interests—a body that kick-started various efforts to rewrite Russian history and cast the current regime in a better light. (Russian diplomatic academy historian Anatoly Torkunov is named as a second author, but it’s unclear how much of a role he played in crafting the book.)
Very much in the tradition of Soviet conspiratorial paranoia, the book also builds a narrative of constant perfidy by the West and its collaborators. Medinsky and his co-author re-litigate 77 years of Soviet and Russian history since 1945, presenting Moscow as beset by domestic and foreign enemies constantly striving to paint its actions in a bad light. The most infamous periods of Soviet history — genocides, mass deportations, political prisons, mass executions — are barely mentioned at all. If they are, they are always bookended by commentary that diminishes the atrocities, whitewashes the perpetrators, and blames the victims or the West.
Rather than shining a light on history, the new book erases it—and nowhere more so than when it talks about Ukraine. When describing Russia’s supposedly “historical” ownership of Ukraine’s Crimean Peninsula, for example, the book claims that ethnic Russians make up the “absolute majority” of Crimea’s population. But Russians only became the dominant ethnicity in Crimea through a policy of colonization and ethnic cleansing—especially after 1944, when Soviet leader Joseph Stalin ordered the deportation of the indigenous Crimean Tatar population, which he falsely accused of collectively collaborating with the Nazis.
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The Witness, Russia’s first feature-length film about its invasion of Ukraine, premiered across the country on 17 August.
The Witness centres on a fictional character called Daniel Cohen, an esteemed Belgian violinist who arrives in Kyiv to perform in February 2022, days before Russian troops entered Ukraine.
As Russia launches its war, Cohen gets caught up in the fighting, witnessing a series of “inhuman crimes and bloody provocations by Ukrainian nationalists”, according to the movie’s premise.
At one point, a Ukrainian commander is seen walking around with a copy of Mein Kampf, while other Ukrainian soldiers pledge their allegiance to Adolf Hitler. As a witness to these unspeakable horrors, Cohen sets out to tell the world the “truth” about the conflict.
In two hours of screen time, the film covers a wide spectrum of falsehoods that the Kremlin has used to justify its invasion of Ukraine. On the eve of the invasion, Vladimir Putin said Moscow had to “denazify” its neighbour, the lie that Ukraine was infiltrated by dangerous “Nazis”.
The release of The Witness comes on the back of plans announced by the Russian authorities to boost the production of movies glorifying Moscow’s actions in Ukraine.
As the Russian authorities ramp up their war rhetoric at home, movies like The Witness raise questions about just how effective Russian propaganda films actually are.
“Russians get force-fed propaganda everywhere they go – on state television, on the street, in schools and universities,” said Ivan Philippov, creative executive at AR Content, the production company of the renowned film producer Alexander Rodnyansky.
A closed Kremlin study cited last week by the Brief telegram channel said that sociologists concluded that Russian society largely wished to ignore the war in Ukraine.
Russia has a long history under Putin of pushing propaganda-style films. Shortly after Moscow illegally annexed Crimea, the county’s culture ministry financed the movie Crimea which justified the seizure of the peninsula. Its creators said the idea for the film came directly from Sergei Shoigu, the defence minister.
Not much later, a state-sponsored romantic comedy The Crimean Bridge – about the Kerch Bridge, Putin’s prestige project – was written by Margarita Simonyan, editor-in-chief of the government-funded RT network. Just like The Witness, both films were box-office disasters and received scathing reviews from independent critics.
“Z culture simply lacks talented people,” said the veteran culture critic Mikhail Kozyrev, using a popular term to refer to creatives who have rallied around the Russian pro-war Z symbol.
Ever since the start of Russia’s war in Ukraine, hundreds of prominent film-makers, writers and singers have left the country, an exodus that has drawn parallels with the 1922 Soviet philosophers’ ships – boats that carried some of Russia’s leading intellectuals into exile.
“The level and professionalism of the artists that decided to stay in Russia and work with the state is low,” Kozyrev said. “And the viewers can feel when a movie is made on orders by the state. It just isn’t authentic.”
For some in the country, the pink alternate universe of Barbie has provided a welcome escape. While Warner Bros, the producer of the hit US film Barbie, pulled out of the country shortly after the war started, Russians have found creative ways to work around American copyrights laws, finding bootleg copies of the film that are then screened at pop-up cinemas. Some cinemas sell visitors tickets to little-known Russian short films and then show the pirated Barbie movie during the previews.
In an attempt to discourage the Barbie craze, Russia’s culture ministry on Thursday said that it won’t issue special permission to pirate copyrights to the movie, as the film was “not in line with the goals set by our president to strengthen the spiritual & traditional values of our citizens”.
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Wow, you DO cling to your narrative, don't you SECOND?
You want to know how I know you're lying?
It's whenever you post.
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Meanwhile, in the real world.... Russia will come out from behind their defenses when they think the Ukrainian army has been attrited enough to offer little resistance. Until then, they're perfectly willing to let the Ukrainian military impale itself on their defenses. There are a few good reasons why:
It reduces Russian losses. Defenders survive better than attackers, especiallly with well-constructed fortifications defended by an array of weapons, from long range (striking in the far distant rear of Ukie military) to artillery, drones, tanks, mortars and helicopter gunships.
It increases Ukrainian losses. In this era of universal ISR there's no such thing as gathering your forces for a blitzkreig/ surprise/ combined arms attack. Bc once you've collected your forces, you become a juicy target. The Pentagon seems to want Ukraine to do just that. It's a criminal waste of Ukrainian lives, and yet despite Ukraine taking horrific losses during their "counteroffensive" - with little territorial gains to show for it - the Pentagon (or whoever is driving this bus. Nuland, maybe?) apparently hasn't learned. I've posted this before: the worst thing Ukraine can do to Russia is go on the defensive.
It reduces infrastructural destruction. By fighting on essentially static lines, fewer hamlets/villages/towns are detroyed.
According to Andrei Martyanov, Russia's MoD has this all calculated with a series of differential equations: Rate of supply and rate of delivery minus rate of fire/loss. And they supposedly have this calculated for Ukraine as well.
So they have a rough idea, for example, when Ukraine will run out of 155 mm shells: A trickle arriving from the west minus the weapons stores Russia can destroy from a distance is the maximum average rate of Ukrainian fire.
Ditto such things as drones, tanks, APCs, air defenses, even including trained soldiers. The west is scraping the barrel bottom, and coming up with alternates ... cluster munitions instead of explosive 155mm shells, depleted uranium shells, Abrams tanks (too heavy, not suited to most Ukrainian bridges or mud), cross border attacks on civilian targets (terror attacks, good for Ukrainian morale but not much else), sabotage attacks etc.
Supposedly Kiev is planning on drafting a whole new batch of soldiers (200,000) this winter, and up to 300,000 in srping. Reaching a long arm into Germany, Poland etc to grab back military-age men who fled the war. In order to make it stick, they fired all of the recruiters bc of extensive bribe-taking. The collective west plans a new tranche of weapons in spring (I think) - F-16s, Abrams tanks, Leopard 1s, possibly long-range cruise missiles.
So the question for Russia is, do they attack in winter (when the ground is frozen and armored vehicles can move more freely) or withstand the next tranche of attacks some time in spring, and attrit Ukrainian forces and NATO spare weapons once and for all?
It seems a close call to me. There is the rsik that the longer this drags on and the more desperate the State Dept/ Biden* neocons get, the more likely they will escalate to something ridiculously dangerous: tactical nukes, false flag, direct NATO involvement, infrastructural attacks elsewhere (South Stream, commercial shipping, Syria). Something stupid like that.
OTOH, as long as NATO keeps things conventional, Russia can probably outlast the collective west's last gasp, and having Project Ukraine go up in flames next summer would be a image that would be hard for necons of BOTH parties to shake.
What do you think?
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Quote:Russia has the same attitude as North Korea does. North Korea has been predicting imminent victory against South Korea for 70 years and Russia has been predicting the same against Ukraine for two years. In North Korean and Russian imaginations, when the time is right, but soon, North Koreans shall defeat South Korea (Ukraine in Russia's case) and humble the USA (EU in Russia's case).
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
What do you think?
The USA never stopped supporting South Korea and the EU will never stop supporting Ukraine. Perhaps Russia will be predicting its victory in Ukraine for the next 70 years, but the victory won't arrive. That's my prediction -- Russia will be endlessly hostile toward Ukraine, but never achieves a permanent victory, only periods of less hostility before the next military attack by Russia on Ukraine.
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Maybe in your case, SECOND, I should have shortened the question to "Do you think?"
To me, west's support of Ukraine sounds a lot like us predicting victory in Vietnam.
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Quote:Between 1979 and 1991, there was 12 years of war between China and Vietnam. China lost, despite being richer, larger, more populous, better armed, etc.
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Maybe in your case, SECOND, I should have shortened the question to "Do you think?"
To me, west's support of Ukraine sounds a lot like us predicting victory in Vietnam.
The Ukrainian War could go the same direction for 12 years. China finally realized it was wasting time, money, life itself and decided to quit the war-making on Vietnam. If you didn't notice, quitting made China prosperous. Quitting would make Russia prosperous.
Sino-Vietnamese conflicts (1979–1991)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_conflicts_(1979%E2%80%93
1991)#Background
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Originally posted by SECOND:Quote:Between 1979 and 1991, there was 12 years of war between China and Vietnam. China lost, despite being richer, larger, more populous, better armed, etc.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Maybe in your case, SECOND, I should have shortened the question to "Do you think?"
To me, west's support of Ukraine sounds a lot like us predicting victory in Vietnam.
The Ukrainian War could go the same direction for 12 years. China finally realized it was wasting time, money, life itself and decided to quit the war-making on Vietnam. If you didn't notice, quitting made China prosperous. Quitting would make Russia prosperous.
Sino-Vietnamese conflicts (1979–1991)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_conflicts_(1979%E2%80%93
1991)#Background
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First of all there wasn't '12 years of war between Chian and Vietnam'. There was a brief border conflict in 1979 that lasted less than a month, and intermittent border clashes to 1991. It was hardly an existential, industrial-scale war between China and Vietnam, and nothing like OUR massive effort that took 50,000 American and roughly 2 million southeast Asian lives.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_War
My god, son, you lie about EVERYTHING, don't you? I can't imagine what it must be like living in that head of yours, and I'm not sure I want to find out.
Also, I don't know if you noticed, but Russia isn't fighting Ukraine, it's fighting NATO in Ukraine. And Ukraine isn't fighting a war on it's own behalf, it's fighting a proxy war, armed and directed by the USA which has a habit of losing wars against smaller weaker nations like Vietnam and Afganistan.
Yanno, maybe if the UNITED STATES stopped war-making across the globe, WE could be prosperous.
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Russian State TV Threatens Nuclear Strike on US
By Brendan Cole On 9/4/23
"The most important message we should send to the Americans is that we will not wage war with you in Europe. In response to your attacks on Russian military or civilian facilities, the first strike will be a preventative limited strike against targets on the territory of the United States of America, " he told the anchor of 60 Minutes, Yevgeny Popov. Last week, Russia announced that its Sarmat strategic missile system, which can reach the U.S., had been put on combat duty.
https://www.newsweek.com/kremlin-nuclear-strike-us-popov-korotchenko-1
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We, the Unsited States, have ringed Moscow with nuclear misiles and nuclear capable facilities (Poland, Romania) within minutes of Moscow.
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Beyond the alliance’s three nuclear powers [USA, UK, France], five others participate in U.S. nuclear sharing: Belgium, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands and Turkey. Seven more participate in the Support of Nuclear Operations With Conventional Air Tactics (SNOWCAT), providing assistance in nuclear missions through conventional air support: Czech Republic, Denmark, Greece, Hungary, Norway, Poland and Romania. All 30 members of the alliance excluding France are also a part of the Nuclear Planning Group, which discusses policy issues. The North Atlantic Council remains NATO’s ultimate authority, and member states retain control over their own nuclear forces.
The United States and its NATO allies do not disclose exact figures for its European-deployed stockpiles. In 2021, it is estimated that there are 100 U.S.-owned nuclear weapons stored in five NATO member states across six bases: Kleine Brogel in Belgium, Büchel Air Base in Germany, Aviano and Ghedi Air Bases in Italy, Volkel Air Base in the Netherlands, and Incirlik in Turkey. The weapons are not armed or deployed on aircraft; they are instead kept in WS3 underground vaults in national airbases, and the Permissive Action Link (PAL) codes used to arm them remain in American hands. To be used, the bombs would be loaded onto dual-capable NATO-designated fighters. Each country is in the process of modernizing its nuclear-capable fighters to either the F-35A, the F-18 Super Hornet, or the Eurofighter Typhoon.
That cuts the Kremlin's nuclear response on a hair-trigger. There is no way to tell whther any particular nuclear-capable jet (such as, BTW, the F-16) is carrying nuclear warheads or not.
Somehow we did this with the supreme confidence that we Americans are protected by miles and miles of ocean on either side, and if anyone would be damaged by the fallout of an accidental nuclear exchange, it would be our allies pawns/ dupes in Europe.
Since the American elite apparently don't give a shit about Russian security or European fallout from a nuclear war, Moscow is telling our decision-makers that they, too, are in the crosshairs and need to consider their own personal safety.
They've made this statement many times. I think they're basically reminding USA decision-makers, who seem remarkably blase about nuclear war, not to resort to tactical nukes or large bombs on Russia. I think they're doing this because they project that American decision-makers will become politically desperate by summer 2024 because they're losing militarily and might resort to WMD.
I think the answer to this is simple: Don't escalate and bomb Russia. Keep the war geographically limited and don't use nukes.
BTW, America and the EU has been steadily escalating involvement in Ukraine. They crossed the many red lines that they initally set for themselves. The concern that they would cross this one, too, is well-founded.
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Russia has North Korea’s backing / Ukraine has the EU’s backing
Kim Jong-un and Putin Plan to Meet in Russia to Discuss Weapons
Russia seeks more weaponry for its war in Ukraine, and a North Korean delegation recently traveled to Russia by train to plan for Mr. Kim’s visit this month, officials say.
By Edward Wong and Julian E. Barnes
Reporting from Washington
Sept. 4, 2023, 2:06 p.m. ET
Kim Jong-un, the leader of North Korea, plans to travel to Russia this month to meet with President Vladimir V. Putin to discuss the possibility of supplying Russia with more weaponry for its war in Ukraine and other military cooperation, according to American and allied officials.
In a rare foray from his country, Mr. Kim would travel from Pyongyang, North Korea’s capital, probably by armored train, to Vladivostok, on the Pacific Coast of Russia, where he would meet with Mr. Putin, the officials said. Mr. Kim could possibly go to Moscow, though that is not certain.
Mr. Putin wants Mr. Kim to agree to send Russia artillery shells and antitank missiles, and Mr. Kim would like Russia to provide North Korea with advanced technology for satellites and nuclear-powered submarines, the officials said. Mr. Kim is also seeking food aid for his impoverished nation.
Both leaders would be on the campus of Far Eastern Federal University in Vladivostok to attend the Eastern Economic Forum, which is scheduled to run Sept. 10 to 13, according to the officials. Mr. Kim also plans to visit Pier 33, where naval ships from Russia’s Pacific fleet dock, they said. North Korea celebrates the anniversary of its founding on Sept. 9.
On Wednesday, the White House warned that Mr. Putin and Mr. Kim had exchanged letters discussing a possible arms deal, citing declassified intelligence. A White House spokesman, John F. Kirby, said high-level talks on military cooperation between the two nations were “actively advancing.” U.S. officials declined to give more details on the state of personal ties between the leaders, who are considered adversaries of the United States.
The new information about a planned meeting between them goes far beyond the previous warning. The intelligence relating to the plans has not been declassified or downgraded by the United States, and the officials describing it were not authorized to discuss it. They declined to provide details on how spy agencies had collected the information.
While the White House declined to discuss the new intelligence, Adrienne Watson, a National Security Council spokeswoman, said in a statement that Sergei K. Shoigu, the Russian defense minister, traveled to North Korea, officially known as the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, to try to persuade Pyongyang to sell artillery ammunition to Russia.
“As we have warned publicly, arms negotiations between Russia and the DPRK are actively advancing,” she said. “We have information that Kim Jong-un expects these discussions to continue, possibly to include high level diplomatic engagement in Russia.”
At other times since Russia began its full-scale invasion of Ukraine, U.S. officials have released declassified intelligence to try to dissuade North Korea, China and other countries from supplying Russia with weapons. U.S. officials say White House warnings about planned transfers of North Korean artillery shells stopped previous cooperation between Pyongyang and Moscow.
In late August, a delegation of about 20 North Korean officials, including some who oversee security protocols for the leadership, traveled by train from Pyongyang to Vladivostok, and then flew to Moscow, an indication that North Korea was serious about a visit by Mr. Kim. Their trip, believed to be a planning expedition, took about 10 days, according to officials briefed on the intelligence reports.
One potential stop for Mr. Kim after Vladivostok, an official said, is Vostochny Cosmodrome, a space launch center that was the site of a meeting in April 2022 between Mr. Putin and Alexander Lukashenko, the president of Belarus and a partner of Mr. Putin’s in t
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Russia doesn't need N Korea. But I'll bet they want to bring N Korea in from the cold.
Since the USA wants to make trouble anywhere it can (Africa, Mideast, Central Asia, Asia especially Taiwan, Thailand etc) I see this as a countermove on the Asian front.
There is a N Korea/Russian border, and Russia could pipe gas directly to N Korea and indirectly to S Korea and Japan, if S Korea and Japan will let them.
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Quote:Russia should send food to North Korea. North Koreans can't eat H-bombs, one thing that is abundant there.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Russia doesn't need N Korea. But I'll bet they want to bring N Korea in from the cold.
Many stories over the years about Starvation North Korea
https://www.google.com/search?q=starvation+north+korea
One in particular: Food Distribution Suspended to High-Ranking Officials - July 28, 2023
In 2023, the situation worsened even further. Since January, rice supply has been cut off at food sales stations nationwide. Even in Pyongyang, food supply through sales stations has stopped in most areas. In fact, out of Pyongyang's 19 districts and 4 counties, 13 districts and all 4 counties have suspended supply through food sales stations.
In the remaining six central districts (Jung, Pothonggang, Moranbong, Songyo, Taedonggang, and Mangyongdae), rice was supplied through food sales stations until they were closed in May. High-ranking officials of the Workers' Party and the government used to receive food from exclusive supply stations until supplies ceased in June.
Military officers, security officers, and security guards received 700 grams (1.5 pounds) of food rations per person per day until May. But this was suspended in June 2023. Similarly, distributions to their families (500 grams or 1.1 pounds per person per day) have stopped since around November 2022. Some central government agencies and factories have purchased food on their own and distributed it to their employees.
North Korea's new "Arduous March" is currently underway. Many people are dying from diseases and starvation, as well as the freezing temperatures during the winter, even in the capital of Pyongyang.
https://japan-forward.com/speaking-out-mounting-deaths-in-north-korea-
as-famine-worsens/
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Too bad Russia doesn't grow rice. I wonder how N Koreans feel about noodles?
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Meanwhile, BACK ON TOPIC:
Ukraine's Chief of Defense Reznikov was fired.
Must be all of that winning!
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Quote:Signym, you could not be more nuts if your sinus infection had spread to your brain.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Meanwhile, BACK ON TOPIC:
Ukraine's Chief of Defense Reznikov was fired.
Must be all of that winning!
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Quote:http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65350&mid=11801
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Meanwhile, my sinuses seem to have turned absolutely septic. It's a good thing I had pre-scheduled an appt with an ENT this week.
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Head of the UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry on Ukraine Erik Mose stated on September 4 that the commission has not yet concluded that Russia is committing genocide in Ukraine. Mose stated that the commission must determine the intent of the perpetrators and identify the “need” to physically or biologically exterminate a certain group to meet the legal qualifications under the Genocide Convention.[25] Mose stated that the commission has found evidence for a large number of war crimes, specifically evidence of torture and strikes on Ukrainian energy infrastructure that the commission could consider as crimes against humanity.[26] Mose also stated that the commission previously determined that certain statements in Russian mass media could be considered as incitement to commit genocide.[27] Mose noted that the commission’s investigation into genocide in Ukraine will continue.[28] Article II of the 1948 Convention of the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (the Genocide Convention) states that “genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group, as such: killing members of the group; causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; imposing measure intended to prevent births within the group; forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.”[29] Article III states that “the following acts shall be punishable: genocide; conspiracy to commit genocide; direct and public incitement to commit genocide; attempt to commit genocide; complicity in genocide.”[30]
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-september-4-2023
Signym will claim something crazy to deny the truth of what Russia is doing to Ukraine.
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Limitations on Russian artillery capabilities and Ukrainian advantages in counter-battery fire are forcing the Russians to deviate from their own doctrine, RUSI reported. RUSI stated that Russian forces have been attempting to adapt their fire doctrine since before Ukrainian counteroffensive operations began.[11] RUSI noted that Russian forces are attempting to prioritize strike accuracy over volume because they lack enough ammunition to sustain doctrinally designated artillery fire, have difficulties transporting a large volume of ammunition to frontline areas, and are seeing diminishing effectiveness of mass strikes as they lose counterbattery radars and their guns suffer from barrel wear.[12] RUSI stated that Russian forces are attempting to increase the production of Krasnopol laser-guided shells and the use of Lancet drones (loitering munitions) in order to increase accuracy and reduce the number of munitions used in attacks.[13] RUSI also observed that Russian forces have often prepared their fighting positions for remote demolition with improvised explosives instead of striking their own positions with artillery after Russian forces have withdrawn, as Russian doctrine dictates.[14] These adaptations suggest that reduced Russian artillery capabilities may be further weakening the Russian defense in certain sectors as artillery fire is a critical component of the Russian elastic defense. A shift towards more precise fire doctrine may allow Russian forces to strengthen these capabilities, but constraints on Russian training capacity will likely prevent Russian forces from implementing this shift at scale in the near term. Russian sources have continually claimed since the start of the counteroffensive that the Russians lack sufficient counterbattery capabilities on various sectors of the front.[15] Estonian Defense Forces Intelligence Center Commander Colonel Margo Grosberg reported on September 1 that Ukrainian artillery capabilities are “equal or even better” than those of Russian forces and have been able to push Russian artillery units back from the frontline, preventing them from supporting Russian forces.[16]
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-september-4-2023
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Meanwhile, BACK ON TOPIC:
Ukraine's Chief of Defense Reznikov was fired.
Must be all of that winning!
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SECOND: Signym, you could not be more nuts if your sinus infection had spread to your brain.
Well, who could have predicted that SECOND would use my SINUSES as a diversion!
Yanno, it's funny, SECOND, but that sentence of yours is the classic, and I mean THE CLASSIC ... as in, people have used it as an example ... ad hominem. Instead of addressing the point (Reznikov being fired is an indication that Ukraine is losing the war) you essentially replied with "Well, you have boogers in your nose". When you resort to random name-calling, we all know you've got nothing relevant to say.
Seriously, dood, you've got to get a new style.
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Quote:Let's get to the point: you, Trump, and Putin are out of your minds. Not respecting your sanity may qualify in your mind as ad hominem attacks, but it is not. I have seen too many crazy people in Texas and overseas who were oblivious to their own malfunctioning. In their illness, their problems only exist because the world is faulty, not their brain's fault. Or in Putin's diseased brain, NATO is the cause of Russia's poverty, not Russia's sickly delusions of adequacy.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well, who could have predicted that SECOND would use my SINUSES as a diversion!
Yanno, it's funny, SECOND, but that sentence of yours is the classic, and I mean THE CLASSIC ... as in, people have used it as an example ... ad hominem. Instead of addressing the point (Reznikov being fired is an indication that Ukraine is losing the war) you essentially replied with "Well, you have boogers in your nose". When you resort to random name-calling, we all know you've got nothing relevant to say.
Seriously, dood, you've got to get a new style.
Putin is a mass murderer. Signym, sorry if you think that is ad hominem attack until he has been convicted in the International Criminal Court. By the way, Trump is a crook. Again, Signym, sorry if that too may seem to be another ad hominem attack until he has been convicted in four different courtrooms but sometimes decisions have to be made now, not years later after the legal machinery slowly grinds through courtroom delays, appeals, etc.
International Criminal Court arrest warrants for Vladimir Putin and Maria Lvova-Belova
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Criminal_Court_arrest_warr
ants_for_Vladimir_Putin_and_Maria_Lvova-Belova
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well, who could have predicted that SECOND would use my SINUSES as a diversion!
Yanno, it's funny, SECOND, but that sentence of yours is the classic, and I mean THE CLASSIC ... as in, people have used it as an example ... ad hominem. Instead of addressing the point (Reznikov being fired is an indication that Ukraine is losing the war) you essentially replied with "Well, you have boogers in your nose". When you resort to random name-calling, we all know you've got nothing relevant to say.
Seriously, dood, you've got to get a new style.
SECOND: Let's get to the point: you, Trump, and Putin are out of your minds.
And you have boogers in your nose!
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In Ukraine the biggest development continues to happen around the growing mobilization threat. It’s now all but certain that a new repressive press-gang regime will take effect this fall. A plethora of documents and information continues to pour out in this vein, as well as further underlining evidence of unprecedented ongoing losses.
All sorts of ‘exemptions’ are being cancelled. Anyone with a medical exemption is now being forced to re-process as this crazy video illustrates.
Some as yet uncorroborated sources even claim that strictness will be relaxed on a slew of serious diseases in order to make eligible as many Ukrainians as possible:
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/sitrep-9423-first-challengers-burn
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From 2016
'He is not dead yet' : Traumatic footage shows 'Ukrainian soldiers burying a Russian separatist ALIVE'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3654505/Horrific-video-shows-
soldiers-burying-man-alive-Ukraine.html
THIS YEAR
Bradley fighting vehicles
Leopard 2 tanks in Ukraine
Challenger 2 tank in Ukraine
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Quote:North Korea exists because of Russia. South Korea exists because of the USA.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And you have boogers in your nose!
EDITED TO ADD
Signym -- Which Korea is more prosperous? Which Korea has the nukes and killed tens of millions of its citizens, just like Russia did?
Signym, prosperity follows from being sane. Not surprising that neither North Korea nor Russia is prosperous. On the other hand, being crazy leads to a shortened life. Not surprising that North Koreans and Russians have short life spans.
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Picking narrow examples and basing your questions on false premises?
Also, dragging the thread wildly off-topic???
Too obvious!
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Quote:Russia invaded the Korean peninsula but because the USA interfered, Russia was not able to set up a puppet government for the entire Korean culture. Russia has invaded Ukraine and is now setting up another puppet government:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Picking narrow examples and basing your questions on false premises?
Also, dragging the thread wildly off-topic???
Too obvious!
Moscow stages local elections in occupied parts of Ukraine
By Felix Light and Felix Hoske
August 31, 2023
Russian-installed authorities began holding regional elections on Thursday in parts of Ukraine Russia claimed as its own last year, seeking to cement Moscow's authority in what it calls its "new territories" despite the ongoing conflict.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/moscow-stages-local-elections-occ
upied-parts-ukraine-2023-08-31/
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Corrupt Billionaire Behind Zelensky's Rise To Fame & Power Arrested
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/corrupt-billionaire-behind-zele
nskys-rise-fame-power-arrested
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Quote:Russia isn't poor, and RUSSIANS aren't poor. In terms of GDP by purchasing power parity, Russia is right there with Germany, and most recent data says Germany has fallen one place. https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/field/real-gdp-purchasing-power
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well, who could have predicted that SECOND would use my SINUSES as a diversion!
Yanno, it's funny, SECOND, but that sentence of yours is the classic, and I mean THE CLASSIC ... as in, people have used it as an example ... ad hominem. Instead of addressing the point (Reznikov being fired is an indication that Ukraine is losing the war) you essentially replied with "Well, you have boogers in your nose". When you resort to random name-calling, we all know you've got nothing relevant to say.
Seriously, dood, you've got to get a new style.
SECOND: blah blah blah.... Or in Putin's diseased brain, NATO is the cause of Russia's poverty, not Russia's sickly delusions of adequacy.
-parity/country-comparison
Furthermore, Russia's GINI index is significantly lower than the USA's, indicating a more even distribution of income.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_income_equality
While there are underdeveloped areas of Russia, you don't see hordes of desperately poor people living on the street like you do here. Catch up to the 2020's, m'kay?
Quote:Oh, you're just butt-hurt bc Russia is winning. The reality is that you don't give a crap about people being killed. I didn't hear you objecting to the #of people killed in the Vietnam war (which was also waged in Cambodia and Laos) other than it was a waste of ammmo.
Putin is a mass murderer.
The Russian MoD has been very careful to stay away from civilian targets. Ukraine deliberately targets civilians.
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Putin Killed Prigozhin Over Business, Not Vengeance
By Dmitri Alperovitch, Sept 5, 2023
When Wagner mercenary group leader, caterer, and convicted robber Yevgeny Prigozhin met his fiery death alongside other Wagner leaders 30 miles southeast of Valdai, Russian President Vladimir Putin’s favorite lakefront residence, most assumed that it was the Russian president’s long-awaited revenge for Prigozhin’s failed mutiny this summer. But real reasons for what was almost certainly an assassination, and the implications of the killing for regime stability, are likely quite different.
When Wagner mercenary group leader, caterer, and convicted robber Yevgeny Prigozhin met his fiery death alongside other Wagner leaders 30 miles southeast of Valdai, Russian President Vladimir Putin’s favorite lakefront residence, most assumed that it was the Russian president’s long-awaited revenge for Prigozhin’s failed mutiny this summer. But real reasons for what was almost certainly an assassination, and the implications of the killing for regime stability, are likely quite different.
The idea that this was revenge is tempting, given that Prigozhin’s mutiny, even if it rapidly disintegrated, seemed like a humiliation for Putin. But look at events since then, and it doesn’t add up. Revenge motive is inconsistent with Putin’s apparent forgiveness of Prigozhin in the strange deal struck in June, when in return for amnesty, the mutineer agreed to pull back his armored column marching on Moscow, disarm his troops, and go into exile to Belarus. Instead, judging by the flight records of Prigozhin’s private jet and in-person sightings all over St. Petersburg, Moscow, and Africa, he had done everything but set up residence in a Minsk villa.
Prigozhin and Putin both rose to wealth and power in the tumultuous and chaotic 1990s. That was the time of razborki—gangland confrontations, where disputes over the spoils of power would be resolved in a montage of violence. Bombings and contract shootings of oligarchs, rival businessmen, politicians, and organized crime figures were a regular occurrence on the streets of Russia’s major cities. Being a rich man in Russia was an inherently risky and deadly business.
Part of Putin’s appeal to Russia’s elite, whether they were criminals, businessmen, or politicians, was that he ended, or at least capped, that violence. Indeed, as of 2021, the homicide rate in Russia had dropped nearly 76 percent since the start of Putin’s tenure. Disputes could be resolved nonlethally by the system established by Putin, not by bullets fired into a limousine. Enemies of the regime, such as journalists, were fair game, but the gangsters who held power, officially or otherwise, were protected. In the aftermath of his failed mutiny, Prigozhin was offered a chance to keep playing by those rules; his refusal, and his brutal end, may mean a return to the era of bloody contestation.
Far from being ostracized by Russia’s president, by Putin’s own account, Prigozhin met with him in the Kremlin only a mere week after the armed revolt. In July, Prigozhin posted a photograph of himself attending the Kremlin-organized Africa leaders’ summit in St. Petersburg, where Putin held court with 17 heads of state, hardly an indication of a man on the run from Russian intelligence.
The theory that Russia’s president was simply trying to lull Wagner’s leader into a sense of safety before ordering a bomb to be placed on his plane is also illogical. The Kremlin had numerous opportunities to order Prigozhin’s death during his free-wheeling travels across Russia over the past two months.
To be sure, revenge can be a famously cold dish. But it wasn’t cost-free for Putin to appear to change his mind and revoke his pledges of Prigozhin’s safety. Having failed to destroy Wagner during its “March for Justice” on Moscow—and officials in Kyiv shared information with me indicating that Russian combat pilots had refused to follow orders to fire on the mutineers—Putin acquiesced to a pardon for Prigozhin to end the uprising and publicly guara
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Russian President Vladimir Putin drew historical parallels between Soviet participation in the Second World War and the current war in Ukraine to set ideological expectations for a prolonged war effort.
Putin gave a speech on September 5 that invoked the memory of significant Soviet military victories during the Second World War, including turning points in the battles of Stalingrad and Kursk and recapturing the Caucasus and Donbas.[18] Putin had notably attended a concert in honor of the Battle of Kursk’s 80th anniversary as Wagner Group financier Yevgeny Prigozhin’s plane crashed on August 23.[19] Putin criticized the international community’s “attitude” to the buildup to the Second World War — very likely criticizing European countries for failing to intervene against Nazi Germany prior to the outbreak of war (and ignoring the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact that briefly allied the Soviet Union with Nazi Germany, permitted the Soviet invasion of the Baltic States, and partitioned Poland) — as also creating conditions for the current conflict in Ukraine and drew parallels between reconstruction efforts and veterans assistance measures during and after the Second World War and the current war in Ukraine.[20] Putin also reamplified the Kremlin information operation falsely portraying the Ukrainian government as a “Nazi regime.” These direct parallels between the “special military operation” and the Second World War are likely the closest that Putin or any other senior Russian official has come to acknowledging the war in Ukraine as an actual war. These parallels also message to a domestic Russian audience that the ongoing Russian war effort is really a war effort despite the insistence on the euphemistic “special military operation.”
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-september-5-2023
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Quote:I am pretty sure the CIA and Russia want Russia to look richer than it is. Other sources point out that Russia is poorly run compared to . . . Canada. North Korea is poorly run, too. Both Russia and North Korea have killed tens of millions of their best people and exported the rest, leaving criminals and the untalented who couldn't hope for a better life to run things:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Russia isn't poor, and RUSSIANS aren't poor. In terms of GDP by purchasing power parity, Russia is right there with Germany, and most recent data says Germany has fallen one place. https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/field/real-gdp-purchasing-power
-parity/country-comparison
https://www.google.com/search?q=Compare+gdp+russia+canada
Signym, I suppose it needs to be mentioned that North Korea, set up to be Russia's little puppet, has kept its corner of the world in turmoil. Russia has done the same. Small minds copy each other's moves of threatening their prosperous neighbors with invasion and nuclear war.
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Quote:WTH would the CIA want THAT??? I mean, we sanctioned Russia to infinity and beyond, and the narrative is supposed to be that "Russia is in tatters, tatters I tell you!" and that they're pulling chips out of washing machines(!) to make fighter jets.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Russia isn't poor, and RUSSIANS aren't poor. In terms of GDP by purchasing power parity, Russia is right there with Germany, and most recent data says Germany has fallen one place. https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/field/real-gdp-purchasing-power
-parity/country-comparison
SECOND: I am pretty sure the CIA and Russia want Russia to look richer than it is.
Quote:Other sources that estimate Russian GDP and growth are the IMF and World Bank.
SECOND: Other sources point out that Russia is poorly run compared to
Are you telling me that there is a transnational cabal of financiers and spooks who WANT to make our sanctions look like they failed?
The reality is... oh yeah, that nasty word again... that Russia is doing much better than even Russian planners expected. Come into 2023, my friend. You seem to be stuck in 1970.
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Quote:When will you notice that Russia got beaten in 2022 by Ukraine? Ukraine does not have a powerful military or a huge economy or a vast population and yet Russia is still blustering about its superiority and still threatening to nuke Ukraine, which would be like nuking part of Russia, assuming you believe Putin's claim that there is no Ukraine, only Russia all the way to Crimea. The way Russia can prove its superiority over Ukraine is to take control of Ukraine, but Russia is not making that happen, ergo Russia is not superior to Ukraine.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The reality is... oh yeah, that nasty word again... that Russia is doing much better than even Russian planners expected. Come into 2023, my friend. You seem to be stuck in 1970.
It is two flabby countries battling one another -- Dumb versus Dumber. Ukraine has not blasted the Crimean Bridge, also called Kerch Strait Bridge, to smithereens because Ukraine is Dumb. A decade to prepare, yet Ukraine remains unable to destroy the bridge. The Ukrainians are almost as stupid as the Russians at warfare. Instead, Ukraine is breaking a few windows in Moscow, as if that is a good use for drones rather than utter waste and futility.
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I didn't notice bc it didn't happpen.
You're totally in la-la land, SECOND.
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Quote:Your Russian buddies will be shot out of the sky and die screaming in a fire. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRIS-T
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I didn't notice bc it didn't happpen.
You're totally in la-la land, SECOND.
Germany to Ramp Up Production of IRIS-T System After Achieving 110 Hits in Russia-Ukraine War
September 6, 2023
After a spectacular combat performance displayed by the German IRIS-T air defense system in Ukraine, the system’s manufacturer, Diehl Defense, announced that it will dramatically increase its production.
The announcement was made by Diehl Defense’s Chief Program Officer Harald Buschek on September 5, who said the production was being ramped up to meet rising demand brought on by Russia’s war in Ukraine. He spoke to reporters at an air base in Todendorf, northern Germany.
Germany has already delivered two IRIS-T systems to Ukraine, where they are primarily used to protect Kyiv from Russian missile threats.
Berlin has promised to provide Kyiv with an additional six IRIS-T units, and it anticipates receiving the first of those six systems in October 2024 for its air force.
Bushek noted that Ukrainian air defense units had shot down more than 110 targets using the German IRIS-T air defense system since they were first deployed in October 2022.
Most of these targets, he noted, were Russian cruise missiles, especially the Kalib, with a near-impeccable kill rate of 100%, German publication Speigel reported.
“The Ukrainians are absolute professionals; they have a hit rate of 100 % in Kyiv.” The company’s top official also observed that at the beginning of the year, the system succeeded in repelling an attack on Kyiv by intercepting 13 Russian cruise missiles that Russia launched at the capital city simultaneously.
The official noted that the privately held company intends to build at least eight systems in 2025, up from three to four units this year. He continued by saying that the output of missiles would more than triple this year, double the following year, and reach 400 to 500 by 2024.
Buschek further told the reporters that a brand-new IRIS-T SLM system is awaiting shipment to Ukraine. This will be the third battery of the system delivered to Kyiv by Berlin, which has steadfastly provided military aid to the war-torn country since the beginning of the year.
Last month, Germany sent a fresh batch of military aid to Ukraine, which included two IRIS-T SLS air defense system launchers. The IRIS-T SLS (Surface Launched Short Range) is a short-range ground-based air defense system based on the IRIS-T air-to-air missile.
In addition, it was reported last month that Germany had acquired 200 IRIS-T SLS (surface-launched short-range) air defense missiles from Sweden to give to Ukraine. Diehl Defense is refurbishing Swedish missiles to replace IRIS-T SLM missiles fired by Ukrainian forces defending themselves from Russian airstrikes.
Moreover, the Norwegian Ministry of Defense said it would donate converted IRIS-T air-to-air missiles to Ukraine for use by its ground-based air defense (GBAD). The missiles, of which the type was not specified, can be launched from launchers that Sweden is providing.
Military experts believe this goes on to establish the potency of the system operating in Ukraine, working round the clock against Russian missiles and UAVs.
Only a few Western countries had earlier purchased this system before the Russian invasion of Ukraine. However, with the return of war to the European continent, several nations on NATO’s eastern flank, including Estonia and Latvia, are anticipated to sign contracts for the IRIS-T in the upcoming weeks.
IRIS-T’s Excellent Combat Performance In Ukraine
A typical single IRIS-T SLM system consists of three mobile launchers, a truck-mounted multi-function radar, and another truck modified into a command post vehicle.
The truck-mounted missile system is intended to take down combat aircraft, attack helicopters, drones, anti-radar missiles, cruise missiles, bombs, and drone
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Gee, I sure hope the Russians don't take out the radar and command center with a hypersonic missile. Or a drone.
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Quote:If Russia was competent, the war would have been over after a few weeks. For example, in the war between the USA and Saddam Hussein, the war lasted a few weeks and then Iraq's ruler had to go into hiding. Ukraine's ruler appears at international conferences, as does his wife. Russia is doing a very poor job in Ukraine compared to what the USA did to Iraq, where the US bombing could shut down Iraq.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Gee, I sure hope the Russians don't take out the radar and command center with a hypersonic missile. Or a drone.
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Russia decries U.S. plan to send Ukraine depleted uranium rounds
The ammunition can not only pierce Russian tank armor but also ignite inside, burning Russians slowly, screaming as they die.
https://www.businessinsider.com/us-sending-ukraine-ammo-punch-holes-ig
nite-russian-tanks-2023-9
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/us-sending-ukraine-depleted-uranium
-rounds-russia-war-rcna103812
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Russian commander used military helicopters 'to airlift pet cat’ during Ukraine war
The former pilot said six military personnel were on board for the mission despite Russia experiencing a lack of pilots.
Maksim Kuzminov, a former Russian airman, claimed that the cat was airlifted in a military-grade helicopter for around one hour, while another flew alongside it to provide cover during the 114-mile journey, reported The Independent.
When asked for examples of any illogical uses of aviation during the war in Ukraine, in an interview with The New Voice of Ukraine, Kuzminov said, “Our commander needed to transport a cat which had some impressive pedigree. To do this, two Mi-8 and Mi-24 (helicopter) crews were assigned”.
“We burned a lot of fuel, resources. Furthermore, the crews aren’t always allowed to rest.”
The 28-year-old Kuzminov is now urging his former Russian colleagues to leave the Russian army and switch sides.
“The truth is, there are no Nazis or fascists,” he told the Ukrainian news outlet, to counter the message President Putin has used to justify the “special military operation” launched in February last year.
He said he got in touch with representatives of the Ukrainian military intelligence about the possibility of changing sides and he was offered safety as well as a financial reward.
Edited By: Manisha Pandey
Published On: Sep 7, 2023
https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/russian-commander-used-military-
helicopters-airlift-pet-cat-during-ukraine-war-2432253-2023-09-07
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Originally posted by second:Quote:If Russia was competent, the war would have been over after a few weeks. For example, in the war between the USA and Saddam Hussein, the war lasted a few weeks and then Iraq's ruler had to go into hiding. Ukraine's ruler appears at international conferences, as does his wife. Russia is doing a very poor job in Ukraine compared to what the USA did to Iraq, where the US bombing could shut down Iraq.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Gee, I sure hope the Russians don't take out the radar and command center with a hypersonic missile. Or a drone.
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Russia didn't WANT to go to total war and destroy Ukraine. THEY STILL DON'T.
In the beginning they were hoping to bluff/scare Zelensky into negotiating and it worked. Russian and Ukrainian negotiators initialed a peace deal in Turkey in March 2022, remember? But BoJo swooped in, told Zelensky what's what, threatened cutting Z out from under the west's umbrella and promised all the weapons Z might want (and, ahem, MONEY) and Z reneged on the negotiated agreement.
And like I said, Russia STILL doesn't want to destroy Ukraine. But they sure want to degrade Ukraine's and NATO's military assets. Which they're doing at a considerable clip.
Russia isn't waging an American-style combined arms/Nazi-style blitzkrieg war. You STILL haven't figured that out? Well, apparently neither have our generals.
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Quote:The Kremlin has transformed the “special operation” into a “people’s war,” a shared task that should unite the nation. Anyone who is against the Kremlin—“national traitors,” in Putin’s words—must be fought against.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Russia didn't WANT to go to total war and destroy Ukraine. THEY STILL DON'T.
Previously, the model was one of “us” at the bottom of the social pyramid and “them” at the very top—in charge of the country and living well, with their yachts and palaces. Now that vertical construction has been made horizontal. “We” Russians are all together and we’re fighting “them”—the Ukrainians, NATO, the United States, the EU, and the collective West.
The new “we” are developing a collective goal which, just like Communism under the Soviets, is forever being pushed further into the distance, but can nevertheless be glimpsed on the horizon. The goal is victory over the West. The specific parameters of what such a victory would look like or how it may be achieved remain entirely unclear, but the rest of eternity can be spent moving toward that horizon.
https://carnegieendowment.org/politika/89486
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Thanks to constant USA attempts at global hegemony, including trying to destroy Russia, angling for war with China, and sanctioning the hell out of a lotta nations, the world is dividng into two blocs, again.
And since the USA can't POSSIBLY by wrong and continues on its quest for total world dominance and the Great Reset, expect to see continued polarization as fewer and fewer nations are allowed to remain neutral.
And now, back to our story ...
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Quote:Russia has been thrown back not just forty years — to a time when behavioral patterns largely consisted of adapting to the decline of the Soviet system — but to the beginning of the Cold War, the struggle against “cosmopolitans” and any “kowtowing to the West”; to an epidemic of denunciations and new waves of repression.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Thanks to constant USA attempts at global hegemony, including trying to destroy Russia,
Under Russia’s internal rules, a “good Russian” is someone who at the very least does not rock the boat. The state feeds this obedient mass with rituals of unity, a national history of uninterrupted victories, and an ideology of imperialism. Consequently, weariness of the “special military operation” is not expressed in calls for peace and more transparency in Russia, but in either more aggressive or more passive, incurable support for the authorities. The scale of this adaptability is such that Russian society is giving Putin carte blanche to continue both his war on the country’s borders and the repressive practices within it.
https://carnegieendowment.org/politika/89486
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During a press conference in Kyiv on Wednesday, U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said that "those who have enabled [Vladimir] Putin's war of aggression should pay for it."
Blinken said: "For the first time we are transferring to Ukraine assets seized from sanctioned Russian oligarchs, which will now be used to support Ukrainian military veterans."
Reports suggest the amount seized so far is around $5.4 million. (If this number is correct, that is a pitifully small amount.) Representatives from the U.S., the U.K., and the EU held talks on Thursday about how to stop Russia from evading sanctions, according to reports.
In comments to reporters on Thursday, Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said Moscow considered the blocking, seizure or withholding of funds linked to the Russian state abroad "as illegal acts."
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-blinken-kremlin-oligarchs-tran
sfer-1825258
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That's stupid. The oligarchs that Blinken is "punishing" are those who've taken their money out of Russia, and in many cases followed their money out. They aren't Putin's friends. Often they're on the opposite side. It's the usual braindead neocon approach. I personally think they just want to wrest something from their effort that they can call a "victory" and then bag the whole thing.
USA NEOCONS READY TO DUMP UKRAINE IN FAVOR OF WAR WITH CHINA
PER SKY NEWS, VIA THE DURAN (48:00)
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