Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
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Quote:Your buddy at the Military Summary Channel writes his "Fake News" in neon lettering:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Go to Military Summary Channel and get a sniff of reality instead of whatever it is you're inhaling.
Military Summary
Zelensky has promised Western investors 3 cities by the end of this year if he wants to maintain funding in 2024. Russia will do everything possible to complete the special military operation in 2023. The bloodiest battles in 1.5 years of war lie ahead of us.
https://t.me/militarysummary/4128
Signym, your Military Channel buddy needs to greatly expand and completely reword his fiction in order to make the falseness more believable. Your buddy is bad at what is called "world-building" in science fiction.
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23 Sep 2023
Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has called the West an “empire of lies” and accused it of adopting a neo-colonial mindset in its overtures to the Global South to win backing for Ukraine in the war.
Speaking after a week of intense global diplomacy at the annual gathering of world leaders at UN headquarters in New York, where Ukraine and its Western allies sought to drum up support for Kyiv as it fights against Russia’s invasion, Lavrov said a “global majority” was being duped by the West.
“The US and its subordinated collective continue to fuel conflicts which artificially divide humanity into hostile blocks and hamper the achievement of overall aims,” Lavrov said.
“They are trying to force the world to play according to their own self-centred rules.”
During a news conference following the speech, the foreign minister dismissed a 10-point proposal put forward by Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.
“It is completely not feasible,” he said of the peace blueprint promoted by Kyiv. “It is not possible to implement this. It’s not realistic and everybody understands this, but at the same time, they say this is the only basis for negotiations.”
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/9/23/empire-of-lies-russias-lavrov
-slams-west-in-un-speech
What is the “completely not feasible, not possible to implement, not realistic” 10-point proposal from Ukraine? Here it is, which makes it obvious that Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov snorts cocaine before he answers reporters' questions:
• Radiation and nuclear safety, focusing on restoring security around Europe’s largest nuclear power plant, Zaporizhzhia in Ukraine, which is now Russian-occupied.
• Food security, including protecting and ensuring Ukraine’s grain exports to the world’s poorest nations.
• Energy security, with a focus on price restrictions on Russian energy resources, as well as aiding Ukraine with restoring its power infrastructure, half of which has been damaged by Russian attacks.
• Release of all prisoners and deportees, including war prisoners and children deported to Russia.
• Restoring Ukraine’s territorial integrity and Russia reaffirming it according to the UN Charter, which Zelenskyy said is “not up to negotiations”.
• Withdrawal of Russian troops and the cessation of hostilities, the restoration of Ukraine’s state borders with Russia.
• Justice, including the establishment of a special tribunal to prosecute Russian war crimes.
• The prevention of ecocide, and the protection of the environment, with a focus on demining and restoring water treatment facilities.
• Prevention of an escalation of conflict and building security architecture in the Euro-Atlantic space, including guarantees for Ukraine.
• Confirmation of the war’s end, including a document signed by the involved parties.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/12/28/what-is-zelenskyys-10-point-
peace-plan
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Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Go to Military Summary Channel and get a sniff of reality instead of whatever it is you're inhaling.
SECOND: Your buddy at the Military Summary Channel writes his "Fake News" in neon lettering:
Military Summary
Zelensky has promised Western investors 3 cities by the end of this year if he wants to maintain funding in 2024. Russia will do everything possible to complete the special military operation in 2023. The bloodiest battles in 1.5 years of war lie ahead of us.
https://t.me/militarysummary/4128
Signym, your Military Channel buddy needs to greatly expand and completely reword his fiction in order to make the falseness more believable. Your buddy is bad at what is called "world-building" in science fiction.
Like ALL sources of info, there's at least some bias. I told you he was pro-Ukie, and it's reflected in his headlines. But his geo-located videos are genuine.
So watch the videos, filter out the "Ukraine/ Russia will/ should" speculation/ predictions (most of them don't come true. If you want insight and analysis read Simplicius) and the geo-located videos themselves will paint their own picture.
Or, keep splattering crap.
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Quote:Signym, analyze these two sentences:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Go to Military Summary Channel and get a sniff of reality instead of whatever it is you're inhaling.
SECOND: Your buddy at the Military Summary Channel writes his "Fake News" in neon lettering:
Military Summary
Zelensky has promised Western investors 3 cities by the end of this year if he wants to maintain funding in 2024. Russia will do everything possible to complete the special military operation in 2023. The bloodiest battles in 1.5 years of war lie ahead of us.
https://t.me/militarysummary/4128
Signym, your Military Channel buddy needs to greatly expand and completely reword his fiction in order to make the falseness more believable. Your buddy is bad at what is called "world-building" in science fiction.
Like ALL sources of info, there's at least some bias. I told you he was pro-Ukie, and it's reflected in his headlines. But his geo-located videos are genuine.
So watch the videos, filter out the "Ukraine/ Russia will/ should" speculation/ predictions (most of them don't come true. If you want insight and analysis read Simplicius) and the geo-located videos themselves will paint their own picture.
Or, keep splattering crap.
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
1) "I told you he was pro-Ukie, and it's reflected in his headlines." - Signym
2) "Zelensky has promised Western investors 3 cities by the end of this year if he wants to maintain funding in 2024." - Military Summary Channel
Signym, sentence 2 is anti-Ukrainian in the extreme, the exact opposite of what you claim. Can you not see how badly you misunderstand simple things, Signym? Almost forgot: Zelensky did NOT make the promise in sentence 2, but then again, Kissinger did NOT write the sentence that is your signature. Signym, you will continue badly misunderstanding that simple thing, too.
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Child Rapist Zelensky is a dictator who has cancelled next year's elections.
The fact that you and Ted would still support him after he's doing exactly what you claimed Trump would do tells everyone everything they need to know about either of you.
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Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Go to Military Summary Channel and get a sniff of reality instead of whatever it is you're inhaling.
SECOND: Your buddy at the Military Summary Channel writes his "Fake News" in neon lettering:
Military Summary
Zelensky has promised Western investors 3 cities by the end of this year if he wants to maintain funding in 2024. Russia will do everything possible to complete the special military operation in 2023. The bloodiest battles in 1.5 years of war lie ahead of us.
https://t.me/militarysummary/4128
Signym, your Military Channel buddy needs to greatly expand and completely reword his fiction in order to make the falseness more believable. Your buddy is bad at what is called "world-building" in science fiction.
SIGNY: Like ALL sources of info, there's at least some bias. I told you he was pro-Ukie, and it's reflected in his headlines. But his geo-located videos are genuine.
So watch the videos, filter out the "Ukraine/ Russia will/ should" speculation/ predictions (most of them don't come true. If you want insight and analysis read Simplicius) and the geo-located videos themselves will paint their own picture.
Or, keep splattering crap.
SECOND: Signym, analyze these two sentences:
1) "I told you he was pro-Ukie, and it's reflected in his headlines." - Signym
2) "Zelensky has promised Western investors 3 cities by the end of this year if he wants to maintain funding in 2024." - Military Summary Channel
Signym, sentence 2 is anti-Ukrainian in the extreme, the exact opposite of what you claim. Can you not see how badly you misunderstand simple things, Signym? Almost forgot: Zelensky did NOT make the promise in sentence 2, but then again, Kissinger did NOT write the sentence that is your signature. Signym, you will continue badly misunderstanding that simple thing, too.
You dumb shit.
Maybe Dima wrote that headline because
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Zelenskyy says Ukraine has a 'comprehensive plan' to liberate Bakhmut and 2 other key cities
https://www.businessinsider.com/zelenskyy-vows-to-liberate-bakhmut-and
-2-other-key-cities-2023-9?op=1
If that's anti Ukrainian maybe it's because Zelenskiy is.
I mean, WE have a President who's anti-American, so why can't Ukraine have a President who's anti-Ukrainian?
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Both sides have refrained from using armored vehicles extensively due to the presence of minefields, the high density of artillery fire, and the presence of portable anti-tank weapons, according to Kyrylo Budanov, the Chief of the Defense Intelligence of Ukraine.
In addition to this, the active use of FPV (first-person view) drones is a significant factor, as they are capable of targeting armored vehicles by kamikaze crashing into the vehicle and then exploding.
"All of those above-mentioned factors reduced the possibility of using armored equipment in practically all of the main directions to the minimum. Now that hardware is only used for evacuation or to swiftly transport infantry teams to a particular spot but it doesn't take part in the fighting," concluded Budanov.
More at https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/armed-forces-of-ukraine-not-to-use-equ
ipment-1695428947.html
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A Russian insider source argued that the Russian military should reintroduce military officers for political affairs (zampolits) to address the Russian military’s problems with political and ideological commitment — a problem that Russian military thinkers identified in September 2018.
The insider source claimed that GRU political officers are using an outdated “Soviet template” to conduct information operations against the enemy and are failing to provide political support to Russian military personnel.[42] The insider source noted that Russian political officers must resolve the contradictions between senior Russian political leaders‘ slogans and reality to ensure that military personnel can distinguish between possible and impossible objectives. The insider source claimed that Russian military-political work encourages blind repetition of phrases and orders, which prevents Russian military personnel from understanding and communicating Russian political decisions to their subordinates or explaining contradictions in political leadership messaging.
Chairman of the Russian State Duma Defense Committee Colonel General Andrey Kartapolov identified similar issues in his September 2018 essay justifying the creation of the Russian Military-Political Directorate.[43] Kartapolov stated that Russian military-political leadership should adapt Soviet structures to new content. Kartapolov also argued that Russia must ensure the “information protection” of military personnel and create a stable conviction in both the military and broader society about why they must serve Russia.
This insider’s argument suggests that the Russian military has not solved the problem that Kartapolov identified over the past five years.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-september-23-2023
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Russian General Says Ukraine a ‘Stepping Stone’ to Invade Europe
Russia-1 channel released the interview with Andrey Mordvichev where he shared his view that Putin's military actions will continue for a long time and may even expand further in the future.
by Alisa Orlova | September 11, 2023
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/21519
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NAZIS OF THE WORLD, UNITE!
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Zelenskyy, Trudeau Honor Actual 3rd Reich Nazi With Standing Ovation
Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and Ukrainian President Volodomyr Zelenskyy - who commands a battalion of neo-Nazis - honored an actual WWII Nazi with a standing ovation on Friday.
Yaroslav Hunka, 98, fought in a Third Reich military formation accused of war crimes.
On Friday, he was honored during a session of Canadian parliament in which Zelenskyy addressed the lawmakers to thank them for their support since Russia invaded Ukraine, saying that Canada has always been on "the bright side of history."
Hunka stood for standing ovation and saluted, [Was it a Nazi salute?] according to Canadian television.
A 98-year old was given standing ovation by the Canadian parliament during Zelensky's speech.
He was hailed as a hero for fighting against the Russians.
Yaroslav Hunk fought for the 14th division of the Waffen SS. pic.twitter.com/1J2lNywBM5
— UNN (@UnityNewsNet) September 24, 2023
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/zelenskyy-trudeau-honor-actual-3rd
-reich-nazi-standing-ovation
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Both sides have refrained from using armored vehicles extensively due to the presence of minefields, the high density of artillery fire, and the presence of portable anti-tank weapons, according to Kyrylo Budanov, the Chief of the Defense Intelligence of Ukraine.
The only time I can remember when Budanov wasn't lying was when he almost took credit for assasinations of civilians in Russia.
This time, he's projecting Ukraine's difficulties on Russia.
Russia isn't using many tanks or armored vehicles bc those are primarily used for attack. Since Russia is playing defense, not much armor is being used.
Also, Ukraine doesn't have much artillery munitions left, and what they have is mostly cluster munitions, which are less effective against armored vehicles. Scratch that "high density of artillery fire" off the list. (So Ukraine fires their cluster munitions into civilian areas like Topmak. See today's Military Summary Channel.)
What astonishes me,SECOND, is the amount of time you spend trolling the Internet for crap, only to splatter it here.
Don't you have wells to dig, or a business to run, or trash to take out for your mom, or something?
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Neocon v neocon
Alexander Mercouris of The Duran brought up an article in The Economist which appears to be part of an ongoing, semi-public argument between two neocon fractions about "the Ukraine solution".
One idea, which I brought up before, is the "land for cease fire" proposal where Russia gets to keep the land it currently holds (not recognized by the west) in order to freeze the conflict. Meanwhile, "real" Ukraine gets security guarantees from the west and an open path to EU/NATO membership. Sounds like a sweet deal for Zelenskiy but he's having none of it- at least, not publicly. (Maybe he's worried about the Bandera neo-Nazis nailing his hide to a wall?) And then Russia feels it got hoodwinked that LAST time Ukraine offered a cease fire. They even withdrew their troops from around Kiev, only to have the initialled agreement get torn up by Zelensky, at BoJo's insistence. So - totally unaccpetable to Russia. (That's what we get for being "not agreement capable"! Karma sure sucks, doesn't it?)
Well, now there is an equally unrealistic proposal in The Economist, which Alexander believes represents the uber-neocons: Ukraine gives up on its land offensive and goes into defense (behind what fortifications? I wonder), and instead launches a missile and drone offensive against Russia. Meanwhile, Ukraine rebuilds it's economy (ahem! With the 'help' of the Clinton foundation?? I wonder if that will work as well as it did for Iraq dn Haiti???) and becomes Fortress Ukraine.
So we have two neocon proposals, both equally unrealistic. Perhaps the CFR/Sullivan wing versus the Nuland wing? Or maybe the Biden* wing versus the Clinton wing.
A few thoughts-
The DNC would probably LOVE to scrape Biden* off. With him not a candidate, they can avoid the issue of his obvious infirmity, and throw him under the bus along with his failed-policy baggage. And with a new candidate they can pretend to have new-all-new policies, even if they intend to follow the same old ones.
Poor Jake Sullivan. His tenure is as long as Joe's, and as much as he would like to solve the Ukraine problem, he can't solve the Biden problem either.
And then there's the neocons(v1.0) versus the neocons(v2.0) issue, both of which are in la-la land
And I've heard the CIA is none too happy with either the neocons or the DIA.
Biden himself seems to be reflexively an intransigent neocon, with the intransigient neocon wing, altho given diminished capacity it could just be the irritability of an old confused man.
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Quote:Putin Is Worried, So He Turned to Anti-Semitism
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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By Leon Aron
His recent rhetoric targeting Jews suggests that his grip on power may be loosening.
September 24, 2023, 7:30 AM ET
After Joseph Stalin died in 1953, an underground joke from my Moscow youth declared, the Politburo found three envelopes on the Soviet dictator’s desk. The first, inscribed “Open after my death,” contained a letter telling his successors to place his body next to Lenin’s in the Red Square Mausoleum. “Open when things get bad,” read the second envelope, and the note inside said, “Blame everything on me!” The third envelope, marked “Open when things get really bad,” commanded, “Do as I did!”
Things must be really bad for Russian President Vladimir Putin, because he is resorting to one of Stalin’s preferred ways of holding on to power: appealing to anti-Semitism. Recently, Putin has made a series of remarks dwelling on the fact that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is Jewish. And in a discussion at an economic forum earlier this month, Putin mocked Anatoly Chubais, a half-Jewish former Kremlin adviser who fled Russia after its invasion of Ukraine last year and is reportedly living in Israel. “He is no longer Anatoly Borisovich Chubais,” Putin said, using his former aide’s first name and patronymic. “He is Moshe Izrayilevich, or some such.”
As a scholar who has been studying Soviet and Russian politics for decades; who discusses that subject regularly with friends, family members, and professional colleagues; and who keeps tabs on what Putin’s critics say about him, I cannot remember him publicly trafficking in anti-Semitism before now. Indeed, his seemingly benevolent attitude toward his Jewish subjects made him unusual among Russian leaders. For more than a century until 1917, Jews in the Russian empire were confined to the Pale of Settlement, mostly in what today is Ukraine, Belarus, Moldova, and Lithuania, and were terrorized by periodic pogroms. Early in the 20th century, the czar’s secret police propagated (and are widely suspected of sponsoring) The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, a vicious anti-Semitic forgery that purported to expose a Jewish conspiracy to take over the world and has inspired generations of violent anti-Semites.
Stalin capitalized on that history to consolidate his own control of the Soviet Union. Beginning in the late 1940s, after 20 million Soviet citizens had died in World War II and millions more were starving and homeless, he unleashed a national anti-Semitic campaign, complete with the frenzied unmasking of “rootless cosmopolitans”—whom everyone understood to be Jews—in newspapers. Well-known members of the Jewish Anti-fascist Committee, formed during the war to organize international support for the Soviet military effort, were arrested, tortured, and executed. In what became known as the “Doctors’ Plot,” a predominantly Jewish group of physicians ministering to the Kremlin leadership was accused of poisoning or deliberately mistreating patients; the medics were tortured, some to death, to extract “confessions.” During that period, tens of thousands of Jews were fired from their jobs, and even graduates of prominent educational institutions became unemployable. (My mother, just out of the Moscow Medical Institute No. 2, was among them.)
Putin’s recent rhetoric has been jarring because, despite everything else he has done, he has not tried to whip up public sentiment against Jews. During his 2005 visit to Israel—the first ever to the Jewish state by a Soviet or Russian leader—Putin had an emotional reunion with Mina Yuditskaya-Berliner, his high-school German teacher, and bought her an apartment in central Tel Aviv. He made Arkady and Boris Rotenberg—two brothers of Jewish heritage who have been among Putin’s judo sparring partners—into billionaire oligarchs.
Although he spoke at the unveiling of two monuments to Russia’s penultimate czar, Alexander III—a notorious anti-Semite who encouraged pogroms—Putin not on
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From Wall Street Journal: Russia’s war machine is adapting at home as well, managing to sustain and even increase defense production of some items despite sanctions.
Western officials thought Russia could produce about 100 tanks a year, but the actual tank production is closer to 200 a year now, according to a Western defense official. However, the official said Russia had lost more than 2,000 tanks, which he said would take it a decade to make up.
The West thought Russia might be able to produce about one million artillery shells a year, the Western defense official said. But now it believes Russia is on a path over the next couple of years to produce two million artillery shells annually. To put that in perspective, he said, Russia fired 10 to 11 million shells last year . . .
More at https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-s-army-learns-from-its-mis
takes-in-ukraine/ar-AA1hagj5
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Russia Appears Ready To Accept Crimea as Ukraine's — On One Condition
By Brendan Cole on 9/25/23 at 4:22 AM EDT
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has appeared to back the territorial integrity of Ukraine agreed upon after the break-up of the Soviet Union when Crimea was internationally recognized as part of the country Moscow has invaded.
Ukrainian social media users noted Lavrov's response at a press conference on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly on Saturday when asked whether Russia will "recognize the sovereignty of Ukraine."
Russia illegally annexed Crimea in 2014, and Kyiv has repeatedly stated that one of its war aims is the recapture of the occupied peninsula, which has been the scene of a series of recent high-profile strikes conducted by Ukrainian forces.
Lavrov said that in 1991 Moscow "recognized the sovereignty of Ukraine on the basis of the Declaration of Independence, which it adopted upon leaving the USSR," in which Crimea was considered to be under the control of Kyiv.
He said that the declaration "contained a lot of good things," which formed part of Ukraine's constitution, including protecting minority rights and the status of the Russian language.
"One of the main points for us was that Ukraine would be a non-aligned country and would not enter into any military alliances, Lavrov said. "Under those conditions, we support the territorial integrity of this state."
This reiterates one of the Kremlin's justifications for its invasion, namely the alignment of Kyiv towards NATO and the encroachment of the alliance on Russia's borders.
Lavrov then repeated Kremlin rhetoric about American interference in Ukraine in a "coup" in 2004 and said that in 2014 Crimea "joined" Russia following a referendum, the results of which have been condemned internationally. He also claimed Kyiv instigated the war in the Donbas.
"We have no problems with the territorial integrity of Ukraine. It was destroyed by those who carried out and supported the coup, whose leaders declared war against their own people and began to bomb them," Lavrov added, according to a transcript of his comments on the Russian foreign ministry website.
"Surprise, surprise! Russia recognizes the territorial integrity of Ukraine within the framework of the Declaration of State Sovereignty of July 16, 1990," wrote Ukrainian internal affairs adviser Anton Gerashchenko on X (formerly Twitter), next to a video clip of the comments.
Gerashchenko added that the declaration "also mentions twice the inviolability of the borders of the Ukrainian SSR," which as "a sovereign national state is developing within its existing borders."
"The territory of the Ukrainian SSR within its existing borders is inviolable and cannot be changed or used without its consent," he added.
Maria Drutska, who works in Ukrainian foreign affairs, posted on X: " I hope this nonsense didn't fly with the Western audience. Although it's interesting, if you respect Ukraine's integrity so much, give Crimea back to us?"
Lavrov also used the press conference to accuse the West of "de facto" fighting against Moscow in Ukraine, and referred to Western military equipment supplied to Kyiv.
Newsweek has contacted the Ukrainian foreign ministry for comment.
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-lavrov-united-nations-crimea-1
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Quote:Signym, pulverizing the Russian Army has wide-spread support from all factions in the US, except those who repeat Trump's mantra "Russia, Russia, Russia".
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And then there's the neocons(v1.0) versus the neocons(v2.0) issue, both of which are in la-la land
And I've heard the CIA is none too happy with either the neocons or the DIA.
https://www.voanews.com/a/usa_trump-downplays-suspected-russia-led-hac
k/6199762.html
What U.S taxpayers are getting for their money in Ukraine
By Holly Williams, September 24, 2023 / 7:00 PM
While in Kyiv, we learned that three of McCain's former colleagues were also in town: Democratic Sens. Elizabeth Warren and Richard Blumenthal and Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham. They don't normally agree on much – together, though, they're some of the staunchest supporters of U.S. funding for Ukraine's resistance.
Sen. Lindsey Graham: They're on track to break the Russian army, and the only way they could possibly lose is if we pull the plug on them.
The wreckage of Russia's war machine was on display for Ukraine's Independence Day celebrations – even as almost a fifth of the country remains under occupation.
Sen. Lindsey Graham: People ask me, "Is it worth it?" Here's what we've gotten for our investment. We haven't lost one soldier. We reduced the combat power of the Russian army by 50%, and not one of us has died in that endeavor. This is a great deal for America.
Holly Williams: You've previously said that it's the best money we've ever spent. That still true?
Sen. Lindsey Graham: Since we helped Churchill stand up to the Nazis.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-aid-ukraine-60-minutes-transcript/
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Putin Is Worried, So He Turned to Anti-Semitism
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
NAZIS OF THE WORLD, UNITE!
The War Machine and the Legacy Media bullhorn for it is worried, so they've turned unsubstantiated and impossible to prove or disprove allegations of Anti-Semitism from Putin.
Because they know that saying he fondled some young female aide's asshole without her permission wouldn't move the needle because the Twitter Leftoids couldn't think any lower about the dude than they already do right now anyhow.
The ADL is cancer. Nobody cares.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Signym, pulverizing the Russian Army has wide-spread support from all factions in the US, except those who repeat Trump's mantra "Russia, Russia, Russia".
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And then there's the neocons(v1.0) versus the neocons(v2.0) issue, both of which are in la-la land
And I've heard the CIA is none too happy with either the neocons or the DIA.
No. It doesn't.
When did you Democrats become a bunch of warmongering Bushites? Was it during the Obama administration, or did that only start when you were inflicted with terminal TDS?
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Quote:Putin’s allusions to Zelensky’s Jewishness grew sharper. The “Western sponsors” of the Ukrainian government, he told an interviewer, had deliberately chosen a Jewish president of Ukraine to camouflage the “antihuman” essence of the Kyiv regime. It’s “utterly despicable,” Putin concluded, to see a Jew covering up the “glorification of Nazism and those who led the Holocaust in Ukraine.” While still purporting to be ridding Ukraine of Nazis, Putin is zeroing in on a flesh-and-blood culprit: The Russians and the Ukrainians are killing one another because of a Jewish schemer.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:Putin Is Worried, So He Turned to Anti-Semitism
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
NAZIS OF THE WORLD, UNITE!
The War Machine and the Legacy Media bullhorn for it is worried, so they've turned unsubstantiated and impossible to prove or disprove allegations of Anti-Semitism from Putin.
Because they know that saying he fondled some young female aide's asshole without her permission wouldn't move the needle because the Twitter Leftoids couldn't think any lower about the dude than they already do right now anyhow.
The ADL is cancer. Nobody cares.
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Quote:Ukrainians kill Russian soldiers in retribution for Russians murdering 4,000,000 Ukrainian civilians. That is not war-mongering. It is justice and payback for Russians again on a new murder rampage against Ukrainians.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:Signym, pulverizing the Russian Army has wide-spread support from all factions in the US, except those who repeat Trump's mantra "Russia, Russia, Russia".
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And then there's the neocons(v1.0) versus the neocons(v2.0) issue, both of which are in la-la land
And I've heard the CIA is none too happy with either the neocons or the DIA.
No. It doesn't.
When did you Democrats become a bunch of warmongering Bushites? Was it during the Obama administration, or did that only start when you were inflicted with terminal TDS?
Why would US citizens take a side in a long-standing conflict between Russia and Ukrainians? Because Russian threats to nuke the US caused the US to spend over $10 trillion on nukes deterring Russians from carrying out the threats. The US is even now spending far more per year on deterring Russia from nuking the US than the Ukraine War costs the US per year.
Do you want to know how much the US spends on nuclear forces per year? Then google it and be amazed at the cost:
https://www.google.com/search?q=How+much+does+the+US+spend+on+nuclear+
forces+per+year
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Quote:You're so full of bullshit, SECOND. The only one who's making a Big Deal about this is you. Trust me, there is LITTLE DISCUSSION about this in Ukraine. I know, because I listen.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And then there's the neocons(v1.0) versus the neocons(v2.0) issue, both of which are in la-la land
And I've heard the CIA is none too happy with either the neocons or the DIA.
SECOND: Signym, pulverizing the Russian Army has wide-spread support from all factions in the US, except those who repeat Trump's mantra "Russia, Russia, Russia".
SIX: No. It doesn't.
When did you Democrats become a bunch of warmongering Bushites? Was it during the Obama administration, or did that only start when you were inflicted with terminal TDS?
SECOND: Ukrainians kill Russian soldiers in retribution for Russians murdering 4,000,000 Ukrainian civilians.
I know why you get so stuck on historical injustices. (SLAVERY! HOLOCAUST! ETHNIC CLEANSING!) It's bc it provides you with a continuous unending justification for your 'hatred du jour', bc past injustices will always be there and can't be undone.
There is NOTHING that can be done to right the past once pereptrators are dead. The only thing is to make sure not to do them again. You OTOH like to selectively dredge up long-dead corpses. Not only is that generically stupid, you're mightily selective about the events you keep harping on.
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Quote:Why would US citizens take a side in a long-standing conflict between Russia and Ukrainians? Because Russian threats to nuke the US caused the US to spend over $10 trillion on nukes deterring Russians from carrying out the threats. The US is even now spending far more per year on deterring Russia from nuking the US than the Ukraine War costs the US per year.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You're so full of bullshit, SECOND. The ONLY ONE who's aking a Big Deal about this is you. Trust me, there is LITTLE DISCUSSION about this in Ukraine.
I know why you get so stuck on historical injustices. (SLAVERY! HOLOCAUST! ETHNIC CLEANSING!)
It's bc it provides you with a continuous unending justification for your 'hatred do jour', bc past injustices will always be there and can't be undone.
There is NOTHING that can be done to right past injustices once pereptrators are dead. The only thing is to make sure not to do them again. You OTOH like to selectively dredge up long-dead corpses. Not only is that generically stuoid, you're mightily selective about the events you keep flogging.
Do you want to know how much the US spends on nuclear forces per year? Then google it and be amazed at the cost:
https://www.google.com/search?q=How+much+does+the+US+spend+on+nuclear+
forces+per+year
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Why would US citizens take a side in a long-standing conflict between Russia and Ukrainians?
Why would US citizens support a pointless war in Vietnam?
Why would US citizens support a poinltess war on Serbia?
Why would US citizens support euqally pointless wars in Afganistan, Iraq, Syria, and Libya?
Why would the Canadian Parliament honor an ACTUAL WWII Nazi?
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Canada's House Speaker Apologizes For Honoring Actual Nazi; Still Radio Silence From ADL
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/zelenskyy-trudeau-honor-actual-3rd
-reich-nazi-standing-ovation
Because they're beaten to death by the kind of propaganda that you spend endless hours trolling the internet for, that's why.
And part of that propaganda involves faux outrage over long-dead corpses and demonizing your "enemy du jour" with an endless string of lies, and a totally false view of history. You're nothing but a puppet on a string.
Fuck off, SECOND.
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Quote:US citizens did NOT support those wars. Although the Constitution requires Congress to declare war, Congress didn't declare war in any of those cases because citizens did NOT support it. The last time Congress declared war was in 1942 against Romania. Everything since has been Presidents getting away with murder because Congress could not make a direct and straightforward decision to stop a President.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Why would US citizens take a side in a long-standing conflict between Russia and Ukrainians?
Why would US citizens support a pointless war in Vietnam?
Why would US citizens support a poinltess war on Serbia?
Why would US citizens support euqally pointless wars in Afganistan, Iraq, Syria, and Libya?
Because they're beaten to death by the kind of propaganda that you spend endless hours trolling the internet for, that's why.
https://www.senate.gov/about/powers-procedures/declarations-of-war.htm
Meanwhile, Congress does support sending ammo to Ukraine.
https://www.crfb.org/blogs/congress-approved-113-billion-aid-ukraine-2
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Polling indicates that USA citizens initially supported ALL of these wars, either they were scared with the whole "domino theory" or stampeded with "WMD/ terror" or induced with "human rights/R2P". Libya and Serbia were destroyed pretty quickly, but a lot of our other "interventions" took years ... decades... before failure, and lost widespread support halfway thru.
If popular opinion didn't matter, then you, and many others, wouldn't be saturating the media with lies.
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The upside down world of Russia where the criminals want their judges arrested.
Russia Issues Arrest Warrant for Hague Court Judges
By Isabel Van Brugen On 9/25/23 at 7:22 AM EDT
Russia has added International Criminal Court (ICC) President Piotr Józef Hofmanski to its wanted list, months after the court accused President Vladimir Putin of the illegal deportation of children from Ukraine to Russia.
Hofmanski, his deputy, Luz del Carmen Ibáñez Carranza, and Judge Bertram Schmitt are "wanted under the Criminal Code," independent Russian news outlet MediaZona reported on Monday, citing the online database of the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs.
"Hofmanski Józef Jozef, Polish. Wanted under an article of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation," the Russian interior ministry said on its online database, without elaborating on the allegations against him.
Russia has issued arrest warrants for several judges, including ICC Judge Tomoko Akane, who was placed on its wanted list in late July. ICC Prosecutor Karim Khan was added to the wanted list in May.
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-arrest-warrant-hague-icc-judges-wanted
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Quote:I write because somebody should tell the Russians, preferably with two bullets in the back of the head, that this war does not end with the Russians triumphing.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Polling indicates that USA citizens initially supported ALL of these wars, either they were scared with the whole "domino theory" or stampeded with "WMD/ terror" or induced with "human rights/R2P". Libya and Serbia were destroyed pretty quickly, but a lot of our other "interventions" took years ... decades... before failure, and lost widespread support halfway thru.
If popular opinion didn't matter, then you, and many others, wouldn't be saturating the media with lies.
Signym, you are so silly. Americans lie on surveys. You find out what an American really believes by what they do, not what they say. That is the reason why the US was forced to switch to an all-volunteer Army since 99% of them don't actual support war. They say they support it, but not enough to join the fight or send their spouse or children or grandchildren to war. The US military is not able to reach its recruitment goals because too many Americans don't support war.
Too many in Congress don't support war. That is why Congress hasn't declared war since 1942. That's why few in Congress were ever in battle. Reserves? Yes. National Guard? Yes. A lawyer in the military? Yes. Fight? No. They won't risk their lives before they joined Congress and they won't risk losing an election over war now that they are in Congress.
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'Air Regiment Leaders' Killed as Drone Self-Destructs on Russian Airfield
By Brendan Cole On 9/25/23
Russian officers were among casualties caused by a Ukrainian unmanned aerial device (UAV) that landed on a military airfield and exploded upon inspection, it has been reported.
Ukrainian intelligence sources said that a drone exploded on the runway at the Khalino airfield less than 5 miles from the city of Kursk, which hosts Russia's 14th Guards Fighter Aviation Regiment as well as Sukhoi Su-30SM fighter aircraft.
After the Ukrainian drone had apparently landed "safely" on the runway, officers from Russia's Air Force and its main intelligence service, the FSB, examined the device, RBC Ukraine reported on Monday.
"When the delegation tried to examine the 'trophy' UAV, there was a detonation," a Ukrainian source told RBC, which said "air regiment leaders" were among the casualties.
The outlet reported that among those killed or injured during the explosion were the commander of the 14th aviation regiment, one of his deputies, a group of aviation officers, an FSB officer, and other airfield personnel.
The report did not specify exactly who was killed or injured and Newsweek has emailed the Russian defense ministry for comment on the claims.
The Russian military blogger Boris Rozhin posted on Telegram that there had been "deaths" at the airfield after one of the drones that landed on the Khalino airfield "turned out to have had a 'surprise."
"Previously, the enemy had already used such tactics in the Kherson direction," said that post, which added that several drones had to be blown up after they had landed and that "enemy drones must be handled with care."
The Baza Telegram channel, which is linked to Russia's security services, has reported similar incidents recently. Last week, it said that a drone detonated after it had fallen on a farm in the Voronezh oblast south of Moscow.
The outlet posted images of the device lying in a field near a bus stop in what the Russian MOD said was an attempt to carry out a terrorist attack. It also said a drone discovered in the Kursk regional town of Lgov on September 17, near an inactive oil depot, exploded "40 minutes after its discovery."
"The Ukrainian Armed Forces have started to launch self-destructing drones," Baza reported.
Other drone attacks have reportedly targeted Kursk in the last couple of days, including a local Ministry of Internal Affairs building in the early hours of Monday morning, according to Ukrainian security sources quoted by RBC.
Ukrainian outlets reported that on the weekend, drones had struck Kursk's FSB building as well as an oil facility near the local airfield, prompting Mayor Igor Kutsak to cancel City Day celebrations.
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-drones-kursk-detonation-182953
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Originally posted by second:
'Air Regiment Leaders' Killed as Drone Self-Destructs on Russian Airfield
By Brendan Cole On 9/25/23
"We're Democrats. We love war and we love dead people."
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Quote:Russia will achieve its objectives in Ukraine and NATO capabilities will be depleted.
Originally posted by second:Quote:I write because somebody should tell the Russians, preferably with two bullets in the back of the head, that this war does not end with the Russians triumphing.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Polling indicates that USA citizens initially supported ALL of these wars, either they were scared with the whole "domino theory" or stampeded with "WMD/ terror" or induced with "human rights/R2P". Libya and Serbia were destroyed pretty quickly, but a lot of our other "interventions" took years ... decades... before failure, and lost widespread support halfway thru.
If popular opinion didn't matter, then you, and many others, wouldn't be saturating the media with lies.
Expect a blizzard of lies about "Why we need to support Ukraine in order to finish off the Russian military" from both establishment GOP and most Democrats.
And then, we're going to.... pivot to Taiwan?
Apparently certain weapons packages to Taiwan have ALREADY been delayed by a year, or more, thanks to us depleting our stores.
Quote:Americans repeat what has been hammered into their heads by the media. Ukraine YAY!! China BOO!!! Russians = Hitler + orcs! Terrorists OMG!! "With us or against us!" BLM! REPARATIONS! LGBTQ+!
Americans lie on surveys.
Those are words. But when it comes to AMERICAN INTERESTS, well... they have a better sense of them than you do.
Quote:
Too many in Congress don't support war.
Why should they? Come up with ONE solid reason why we need to constantly be at war somewhere far away.
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as I understand it Ukraine isn't really winning, it took back lost land but its counter offensive is stalling or maybe even failing
Russia however is not comfortable and thousands are dying on both sides, the Russians recently got blitzed by a bunch of French / British missiles
the Russian military is getting hit they have lost huge ships, lost a Submarine,
a video
'Ukraine targets Crimea with missile after attack on Black Sea Fleet'
in other online videos you see brutal trench warfare like WW1
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It's true that three of Russia's ships were damaged (one, the Moskva, over a year ago) and a few IL planes were damaged or destroyed. OTOH almost all of Ukraine's air defenses are gone, their fighter jets/ bombers and are almost depleted, they have few helicopters left, and they have almost no more artillery munitions.
It seems that, according to Military Summary Channel, which creates excruciatingly detailed updates on strikes, advances, and losses on BOTH sides, that Ukraine is almost out of tanks and is fielding fewer and fewer drones (maybe they're stockpiling them for a future event) and HIMARS launchers are getting destroyed about every third or fourth day.
Ukrainians in the south are reduced to running their light infantry thru minefields, and took even bigger losses than they did when they charged with western tanks and APCs.
So, this is war. It would be a strange war if Russia took no losses at all. But Ukrainians losses are far higher.
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Quote:America is NOT at war if you look at how many Americans die in hostile action. In 2022, the number of deaths in hostile action is, wait for it, drum roll, zero. 2023 numbers are not yet posted.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Too many in Congress don't support war.
Why should they? Come up with ONE solid reason why we need to constantly be at war somewhere far away.
https://dcas.dmdc.osd.mil/dcas/app/summaryData/deaths/byYearManner
There is plenty of information about the American's name, and date of death, and where.
https://thefallen.militarytimes.com/the-people-behind-the-sacrifice
It turns out that suicide and murder are the big killers in the military . . . NOT WAR.
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2023/07/03/military-s
uicide-stats-released-army-saw-highest-increase-of-deaths/
Military Deaths 2023
https://www.google.com/search?q=military+deaths+2023
Number of military fatalities in all major wars involving the United States from 1775 to 2023
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1009819/total-us-military-fataliti
es-in-american-wars-1775-present/
(The Civil War probably killed more Americans than all other wars, combined, about 750,000, with a range from 650,000 to as many as 850,000 dead https://www.history.com/news/american-civil-war-deaths )
In stark contrast, Russia doesn't even know how many died in WWII with an accuracy of + or - 10,000,000. This is because Russians never kept count at any time in their history. Russians don't count even today.
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Quote:Signym, you are cowardly, lazy, greedy, selfish. How do I know without having seen your life? Every word you write gives away the inner person you are. I can compare your written words to the words spoken by worthless East Texans whose lives I know in excruciating and nauseating detail and you are a perfect match with them. That is how I know you are worthless. I know much about Russians:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Americans repeat what has been hammered into their heads by the media. Ukraine YAY!! China BOO!!! Russians = Hitler + orcs! Terrorists OMG!! "With us or against us!" BLM! REPARATIONS! LGBTQ+!
Those are words. But when it comes to AMERICAN INTERESTS, well... they have a better sense of them than you do.
Russian Media Rhetoric Could Be 'Incitement to Genocide' – UN
UN investigators probing violations in Ukraine since Moscow's invasion warned on Monday that rhetoric broadcasted by Russian state media could amount to incitement to genocide.
Speaking before the UN Human Rights Council, the head of the investigation team, Erik Mose, voiced concern "about allegations of genocide in Ukraine."
"Some of the rhetoric transmitted in Russian state and other media may constitute incitement to genocide," he said, adding that the team was "continuing its investigations on such issues."
The Norwegian judge heads a three-person Commission of Inquiry, which was created by the Human Rights Council to investigate violations committed since Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022.
In its first full report published in March, the team determined that Russian authorities had committed "a wide range of war crimes."
Mose said at the time that the commission was aware of accusations of genocide, including the forced transfer of Ukrainian children to areas under Russian control, and vowed to investigate.
In his update to the council Monday, Mose lamented a "lack of clarity and transparency on the full extent, circumstances, and categories of children transferred," and said the team was continuing to investigate.
"Whether that will also raise issues of genocide will then be clarified in the course of our investigations," he told reporters.
Brutal Torture
The March report had also determined that Moscow was behind a vast array of other war crimes, including widespread attacks on civilians and infrastructure, killings, torture and rape and other sexual violence.
Mose said on Monday that the commission, which had traveled more than 10 times to Ukraine, was now "undertaking a more in-depth investigation" that "may also clarify whether torture and attacks on energy infrastructure amount to crimes against humanity."
Among other things, he said the team was investigating the cause of the disastrous destruction of the Nova Kakhovka dam in Russian-occupied Ukraine on June 6.
The team had also collected more evidence indicating the "widespread and systematic" use of torture by Russia's armed forces, commission member Pablo de Greiff told reporters.
Torture was said to be taking place mainly in detention centers controlled by Russian authorities, and was in some cases so brutal the victims died, he said.
"Not having access to places of detention under the control of the Russian Federation, it is impossible to quantify exactly the number of people that may have died as a result of this practice," he said, adding that it appeared to be "a fairly large number."
List of Perpetrators
Rape and other sexual violence was also widespread.
In the Kherson region, the commission found that "Russian soldiers raped and committed sexual violence against women of ages ranging from 19 to 83 years," Mose said.
Pointing to "the scale and gravity of violations and corresponding crimes that have been committed in Ukraine by Russian armed forces," he emphasized "the need for accountability".
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Blunt ultimatum from Kremlin: Ukraine will either accept Moscow's conditions or cease to exist
The Kremlin has issued a stark warning to Ukraine, stating that the country must accept Moscow's terms or risk ceasing to exist as a sovereign nation.
According to Wiadomosci, Viacheslav Volodin, the Chairman of the Russian State Duma, made this clear in his recent statements, emphasizing Russia's uncompromising stance on the ongoing conflict.
Volodin argued that Western support for Ukraine is causing economic problems in Western countries and predicted financial and demographic disasters for Ukraine if it does not comply with Russia's terms.
He cited statistics claiming that 54% of Ukraine's population has left the country since 2014, suggesting that the nation is on the brink of collapse.
The Russian State Duma Chairman did not mention any crisis in Russia but focused on painting a grim picture for Ukraine's future if it continues to resist Moscow's demands. His statements serve as a chilling reminder of Russia's willingness to escalate the conflict to achieve its objectives.
This warning comes amid ongoing hostilities in Ukraine, which began in 2014 and escalated with a full-scale invasion led by Russian President Vladimir Putin on February 24, 2022.
Despite Ukraine's valiant defense and support from Western countries, the Kremlin's latest threats indicate that Russia is not willing to back down, raising concerns about the future stability of Ukraine and the broader region.
https://www.dagens.com/news/blunt-ultimatum-from-kremlin-ukraine-will-
either-accept-moscows-conditions-or-cease-to-exist
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Signym, you are cowardly, lazy, greedy, selfish.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Americans repeat what has been hammered into their heads by the media. Ukraine YAY!! China BOO!!! Russians = Hitler + orcs! Terrorists OMG!! "With us or against us!" BLM! REPARATIONS! LGBTQ+!
Those are words. But when it comes to AMERICAN INTERESTS, well... they have a better sense of them than you do.
Coming from the brave man fighting the war in Ukraine from his computer in his mom's basement.
All of those adjectives best describe you.
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Quote:It is pretty hard to fight the "enemy" when there is no combat to point to that Americans are involved in. There are no American soldiers fighting in Ukraine, for example.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Coming from the brave man fighting the war in Ukraine from his computer in his mom's basement.
All of those adjectives best describe you.
How many Americans died in combat in 2022? Zero. 2023? Zero. The last one to die listed at The Fallen was Air Force Lt. Col. James C. Willis, Died June 26, 2021 Serving During Operation Inherent Resolve, 55, of Albuquerque, New Mexico, was found dead at 7:30 a.m. June 26 at Al Udeid Air Base, Qatar, according to a U.S. Air Forces Central news release. The noncombat-related incident is under investigation.
https://thefallen.militarytimes.com/air-force-lt-col-james-c-willis/65
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Before this last death? There was Army Staff Sgt. Casey J. Hart
Died June 8, 2021 Serving During Operation Inherent Resolve, 42, of Baton Rouge, Louisiana, died June 8, 2021, at Walter Reed Medical Center in Maryland after suffering a medical emergency May 9 at Al-Tanf Garrison in Syria. Hart was assigned to the 256th Infantry Brigade Combat Team out of Lafayette. He also worked as a patrol officer for the Baton Rouge Police Department.
https://thefallen.militarytimes.com/army-staff-sgt-casey-j-hart/656883
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Quote:tsk tsk ... name-calling??? I know for a fact that I'm hardworking; face up to challenges and conflicts (and criminals); generous; and take my responsibilities to my family, my country, and my country's future SERIOUSLY. And you're projecting again.
SCEOND: Signym, you are cowardly, lazy, greedy, selfish.
Quote:
SECOND: Too many in Congress don't support war.
SIGNY: Why should they? Come up with ONE solid reason why we need to constantly be at war somewhere far away.
SCEOND; America is NOT at war if you look at how many Americans die in hostile action. In 2022, the number of deaths in hostile action is, wait for it, drum roll, zero. 2023 numbers are not yet posted.
https://dcas.dmdc.osd.mil/dcas/app/summaryData/deaths/byYearManner
Americans are getting killed in Syria and Ukraine. But the ones killed, even those part of the "official" military, aren't supposed to be there, to avoid the appearance of fighting Russian directly. So even tho "secret" bases/ command centers are hit by Russian missiles/ bombs/ rockets/ shells, they will not be acknowledged officially.
And if we're NOT at "war" in so many places, either by proxy or unofficially, why is our DoD budget so huge? Let's just cut the damn thing by 90% and protect our own borders instead of sending our troops all over creation. I think, if our militay was seen a doing something ACTUALLY USEFUL for the USA, recruitment would be up.
Give me a damn good reason why we shouldn't.
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Quote:1) Signym, you absolutely have no proof backing up any of your claims about Americans (soldiers or CIA) being killed overseas, not even the claim about you being hardworking. You've got nothing.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:tsk tsk ... name-calling??? I know for a fact that I'm hardworking; face up to challenges and conflicts (and criminals); generous; and take my responsibilities to my family, my country, and my country's future SERIOUSLY. And you're projecting again.
SCEOND: Signym, you are cowardly, lazy, greedy, selfish.Quote:
SECOND: Too many in Congress don't support war.
SIGNY: Why should they? Come up with ONE solid reason why we need to constantly be at war somewhere far away.
SCEOND; America is NOT at war if you look at how many Americans die in hostile action. In 2022, the number of deaths in hostile action is, wait for it, drum roll, zero. 2023 numbers are not yet posted.
https://dcas.dmdc.osd.mil/dcas/app/summaryData/deaths/byYearManner
Americans are getting killed in Syria and Ukraine. But the ones killed, even those part of the "official" military, aren't supposed to be there, to avoid the appearance of fighting Russian directly. So even tho "secret" bases/ command centers are hit by Russian missiles/ bombs/ rockets/ shells, they will not be acknowledged officially.
And if we're NOT at "war" in so many places, either by proxy or unofficially, why is our DoD budget so huge? Let's just cut the damn thing by 90% and protect our own borders instead of sending our troops all over creation. I think, if our militay was seen a doing something ACTUALLY USEFUL for the USA, recruitment would be up.
Give me a damn good reason why we shouldn't.
2) You are implying that the military should be guarding the US border with Mexico and Canada. The border is already guarded, but if your goal is to kill thousands along the border then switching the responsibility to the Army and Marines will end with a massive number of dead aliens.
3) And why does Congress spend $trillions on defense? Because Congressmen want the money spent in their districts. They approve of sending ammo to Ukraine so that even more money than ever before can be spent with defense manufacturers in their home states and Congressional districts.
Apr 28, 2023
The United States spent $766 billion on national defense during fiscal year (FY) 2022 according to the Office of Management and Budget, which amounted to 12 percent of federal spending. Defense spending in 2022 was less than the average for the last decade, which was 15 percent of the budget. Such spending indicates that lawmakers have prioritized national defense as a key part of our budget; indeed, the United States spends more on defense, relative to the size of its economy, than any other member of the G7 (a group of the world’s largest advanced economies, the members of which are shown in the chart below). This explainer looks at the components of the U.S. defense budget.
https://www.pgpf.org/budget-basics/budget-explainer-national-defense
DOD Releases Report on Defense Spending by State in Fiscal Year 2021
Oct. 20, 2022 |
Today, the Department of Defense's Office of Local Defense Community Cooperation released its Fiscal Year 2021 Defense Spending by State report to help states and communities better understand the components of defense spending on procurement and personnel.
The report's graphs, maps, and tables present a range of findings, such as total spending figures, categories of contracted goods and services, major defense vendors, and numbers and types of defense personnel. This snapshot provides public and private leaders with a starting place to assess how defense investments across installations and the private sector can be optimized by supporting regional innovation, industrial capability and capacity, supply chain resilience, and cultivating a skilled workforce.
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It's true that three of Russia's ships were damaged (one, the Moskva, over a year ago) and a few IL planes were damaged or destroyed. OTOH almost all of Ukraine's air defenses are gone, their fighter jets/ bombers and are almost depleted, they have few helicopters left, and they have almost no more artillery munitions.
It seems that, according to Military Summary Channel, which creates excruciatingly detailed updates on strikes, advances, and losses on BOTH sides, that Ukraine is almost out of tanks and is fielding fewer and fewer drones (maybe they're stockpiling them for a future event) and HIMARS launchers are getting destroyed about every third or fourth day.
Ukrainians in the south are reduced to running their light infantry thru minefields, and took even bigger losses than they did when they charged with western tanks and APCs.
So, this is war. It would be a strange war if Russia took no losses at all. But Ukrainians losses are far higher.
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Russia’s Influence and a Volatile Future
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Child Rapist Zelensky cancelled next year's Presidential election.
Why are you two so wrapped up in supporting a dictatorship?
Oh... I mean, Zelensky would be more than happy to have the election, but he's going to require an outside payment of €120 Million (or another $126,845,400.00) if he's even going to consider it.
https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-war-democracy-dilemma-election
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Get fucked. The entire lot of you.
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“I realize the security environment to conduct an election would be challenging. However, I cannot think of a better investment for the stability of Europe than helping Ukraine survive as an independent, self-governing, Rule of Law-based democracy. I would encourage all of Ukraine’s allies to help provide the financial and technical assistance to support this effort,” Graham said in a tweet.
And you too, Lindsey. Fuck you twice.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It's true that three of Russia's ships were damaged (one, the Moskva, over a year ago) and a few IL planes were damaged or destroyed. OTOH almost all of Ukraine's air defenses are gone, their fighter jets/ bombers and are almost depleted, they have few helicopters left, and they have almost no more artillery munitions.
It seems that, according to Military Summary Channel, which creates excruciatingly detailed updates on strikes, advances, and losses on BOTH sides, that Ukraine is almost out of tanks and is fielding fewer and fewer drones (maybe they're stockpiling them for a future event) and HIMARS launchers are getting destroyed about every third or fourth day.
Ukrainians in the south are reduced to running their light infantry thru minefields, and took even bigger losses than they did when they charged with western tanks and APCs.
So, this is war. It would be a strange war if Russia took no losses at all. But Ukrainians losses are far higher.
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Quote:It is in open sources that the CIA and US military have bases of operation in NE Syria supporting Syrian Kurds, and data fusion / command centers in Ukraine, and that these bases of operation have been struck by Russian weapons.
SECOND: Signym, you are cowardly, lazy, greedy, selfish.
SIGNY: tsk tsk ... name-calling??? I know for a fact that I'm hardworking; face up to challenges and conflicts (and criminals); generous; and take my responsibilities to my family, my country, and my country's future SERIOUSLY. And you're projecting again.
SECOND: Too many in Congress don't support war.
SIGNY: Why should they? Come up with ONE solid reason why we need to constantly be at war somewhere far away.
SECOND; America is NOT at war if you look at how many Americans die in hostile action. In 2022, the number of deaths in hostile action is, wait for it, drum roll, zero. 2023 numbers are not yet posted.
https://dcas.dmdc.osd.mil/dcas/app/summaryData/deaths/byYearManner
SIGNY: Americans are getting killed in Syria and Ukraine. But the ones killed, even those part of the "official" military, aren't supposed to be there, to avoid the appearance of fighting Russian directly. So even tho "secret" bases/ command centers are hit by Russian missiles/ bombs/ rockets/ shells, they will not be acknowledged officially.
And if we're NOT at "war" in so many places, either by proxy or unofficially, why is our DoD budget so huge? Let's just cut the damn thing by 90% and protect our own borders instead of sending our troops all over creation. I think, if our militay was seen a doing something ACTUALLY USEFUL for the USA, recruitment would be up.
Give me a damn good reason why we shouldn't.
SECOND: 1) Signym, you absolutely have no proof backing up any of your claims about Americans (soldiers or CIA) being killed overseas, not even the claim about you being hardworking. You've got nothing.
And you have nothing to show that I'm lazy, greedy etc, but you post it anyway!
Quote:Maybe human traffickers wouldn't get so many customers and illegal migrants would stop swarming our southern border.
2) You are implying that the military should be guarding the US border with Mexico and Canada. The border is already guarded, but if your goal is to kill thousands along the border then switching the responsibility to the Army and Marines will end with a massive number of dead aliens.
Quote:Aren't there more productive and important things to be spending our $$$ on? You keep harping about global climate change... what about that? What about energy security and re-industrialization and covering everyone with basic, competitive health care?
;3) And why does Congress spend $trillions on defense? Because Congressmen want the money spent in their districts. They approve of sending ammo to Ukraine so that even more money than ever before can be spent with defense manufacturers in their home states and Congressional districts.
The sad reality is that the MICC (military industrial Congressional complex) has a self-reinforcing loop, since $$$$ flows in that direction, $ donations flows back in the direction of Congress.
The rest of your post is just blah blah blah.
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Quote:August 11, 2022 - The U.S. House of Representatives today approved the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022. The bill includes about $370 billion in clean energy and climate investments over the next 10 years. After passing the Senate on August 7, the bill now goes to U.S. President Joe Biden for his expected signature to enact it into law.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Aren't there more productive and important things to be spending our $$$ on? You keep harping about global climate change... what about that? What about energy security and re-industrialization and covering everyone with basic, competitive health care?
;3) And why does Congress spend $trillions on defense? Because Congressmen want the money spent in their districts. They approve of sending ammo to Ukraine so that even more money than ever before can be spent with defense manufacturers in their home states and Congressional districts.
The sad reality is that the MICC (military industrial Congressional complex) has a self-reinforcing loop, since $$$$ flows in that direction, $ donations flows back in the direction of Congress.
The rest of your post is just blah blah blah.
No Republicans voted for spending money on climate change. Not one of them. That's why the amount is so small since Senator Manchin (Democrat - W. Virginia, Coal mining multi-millionaire) would not vote for more. On the other hand, Republicans gladly vote for more than a trillion dollars per year for Defense and the Veterans Administration. That is why Defense gets trillions and climate change gets only billions.
Signym, it is easy to understand that Republicans and Democrat Manchin control spending. It is NOT, I REPEAT, NOT, some "self-reinforcing loop". Congress makes too many crappy spending decisions because Manchin and all Republicans are crappy people.
The Pentagon will be shutting down because the crappy Republicans can't make a decision: Military pay for millions of active-duty service members and reservists could dry up with a government shutdown. “Military personnel will not be paid until such time as Congress appropriates funds available to compensate them for this period of service,” the Defense Department said in a September memo to Pentagon leaders preparing for a potential lapse in spending.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/09/26/government-shu
tdown-2023-live-updates/70968505007/
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Not knowing the specifics of the bill, I can't say whether or not it should be supported. Maybe it's just a giveaway to favored businesses.
OTOH, it represents more deficit spending. If the DoD budget was cut by 90%... and tell me why, again, that it shouldn't be?... then that would save more than enough $$$ to pay for that bill, with about $50O billion leftover each year.
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Signym, what percent of Americans wanted to leave because of the war in Afghanistan, the longest war in American history? Zero Percent.
Bleak impact of Ukraine war on Russians laid bare in poll -- 16% Want To Leave
Russians' views of their daily challenges and the future were influenced by their wider political beliefs.
The research split the Russian population into four distinct groups based on their attitudes towards the status quo: Hawks, Loyalists, Moderates and Liberals.
Exactly 84% of respondents wanted to stay in Russia, but 53% of what it called "Liberals" wished to move abroad.
Just over three-quarters of this latter group, who opposed the ruling regime, were worried about potential restrictions on leaving the country, it added.
"Pro-war Russians are mainly satisfied with their life despite the existing problems," the researchers reported.
However, "bursts of anxiety" have started emerging among what it described as "Loyalists" – those who generally agree with the objectives of government, but can question its means.
Understanding to what extent Russians truly support the war is difficult. The Kremlin fiercely represses anti-war dissent.
Critics of the “special operation”, as it is known inside the country, have been subjected to hefty fines, arrests and outright violence, with one Russian father detained for his daughter’s supposed anti-war drawings at school.
Elena Koneva, a researcher at Russia's opinion-polling company ExtremeScan, in May cited polls showing a 50/50 split between those backing the war and those against it.
https://www.euronews.com/2023/09/26/bursts-of-anxiety-impact-of-ukrain
e-war-on-russians-laid-bare-in-poll
I would not be surprised if Ukraine becomes Russia's longest war in history, where missiles are fired at Ukraine for many decades. As new missiles are built, the Russians fire them at Ukraine, on and on, year after year, decade after decade. Never admit defeat of the "Special Operation". Glorious triumph awaits Russia somewhere in the distant future when NATO loses member nations Finland, Poland, All the Baltic Countries, etc.
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Russia may be prepared to engage in direct conflict with NATO member states, former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev suggested on Tuesday.
In a post on his Telegram channel, Medvedev, who is deputy chairman of Russia's Security Council, criticized the supply of weapons to Ukraine by its Western allies, suggesting a war could break out over deliveries of Abrams tanks and the potential supply of long-range missiles to Ukraine.
"It seems that Russia is being left with less and less choice but direct conflict with NATO," wrote Medvedev.
NATO has "turned into an openly fascist bloc," said Medvedev, accusing the military alliance of being like Nazi Germany and the Axis powers — a coalition headed by Germany, Italy and Japan—in World War II, "albeit larger."
"We are ready, although the result will be achieved at a much greater cost to humanity than in 1945," Medvedev warned.
Anton Gerashchenko, an adviser to Ukraine's minister of internal affairs, said the former Russian president is "threatening the whole of humanity."
It's not the first time Medvedev has insinuated that Russia could attack NATO members for providing Ukraine with assistance. He said in December 2022 that such countries could be "legitimate military targets."
"Today...the main question is whether the hybrid war de facto declared on our country by NATO can be considered to be the alliance's entry into war with Russia? Is it possible to view the delivery of a large volume of weapons to Ukraine as an attack on Russia?" he wrote at the time.
"The leaders of NATO countries keep unanimously squawking that their countries and the entire bloc are not at war with Russia," Medvedev continued. "Yet, everyone is well aware that this is not the case."
He noted that in light of this, the question arises whether NATO allies are legitimate military targets.
According to "the named rules of war," he said, the armed forces of other countries "that have officially entered the war, which are allies of the enemy country, and the objects located on their territory," are considered legitimate military targets.
More at https://www.newsweek.com/russia-medvedev-nato-putin-ally-ukraine-war-1
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Quote:It is $370 billion in clean energy and climate investments over the next ten years. That is $37 billion per year.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Not knowing the specifics of the bill, I can't say whether or not it should be supported. Maybe it's just a giveaway to favored businesses.
OTOH, it represents more deficit spending. If the DoD budget was cut by 90%... and tell me why, again, that it shouldn't be?... then that would save more than enough $$$ to pay for that bill, with about $50O billion leftover each year.
There are astonishingly large amounts of information at https://www.google.com/search?q=wiki+inflation+reduction+act+of+2022
The dollar values for 116 items are listed in the Inflation Reduction Act Guidebook - Clean Energy
https://www.whitehouse.gov/cleanenergy/inflation-reduction-act-guidebo
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Yes, $37 billion per year. Compared to about $800 billion per year for DoD.
Once again looking at the cockroach and ignoring the gorrilla.
So, quickly doing the math here ... If we reduced the DoD budget by 90%, that would fund the energy bill and leave ... $683 billion in saved money per year.
Given that we're spending $800 billion per year to waste money, energy, resources, and lives, and only spending $37 billion per year for climate change reduction... where are Congressional/deep state/media priorities?
Stop wasting everyone's time with ludicrous propaganda.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Stop wasting everyone's time with ludicrous propaganda.
Russia accused Ukraine’s Western allies of helping plan and execute a missile attack on the Russian Black Sea fleet’s headquarters in the annexed Crimean Peninsula last week.
Moscow’s Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said on Wednesday that Western reconnaissance data, NATO country satellites and spy planes were all used in the attack carried out by Ukraine on the fleet’s headquarters.
“There is no doubt that the attack had been planned in advance using Western intelligence means, NATO satellite assets and reconnaissance planes and was implemented upon the advice of [United States] and British security agencies and in close coordination with them,” Zakharova said at a briefing.
“The obvious aim of such terrorist acts is to divert attention from the failed attempts of the counteroffensive by the Ukrainian armed forces and to frighten people, to stir up panic in our society,” she said.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/9/28/russia-says-ukraines-western-
allies-assisted-in-black-sea-fleet-hq-attack
"We go from victory to victory to achieve the ultimate victory of humbling NATO and devastating Ukrainian Nazis. Washington and London will beg for mercy, but there will be none!" -- Some unknown Russian propagandist writing tomorrow's report of progress in the Special Operation.
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Quote:Going by what the CDC writes and what I saw on construction projects, alcohol costs the US about $800 billion per year. Is America about to stop drinking to save all that money? Will the money saved then go to prevent climate change? Will cutting defense spending increase spending on climate change? I think not for all three questions. Think of all the workers in breweries, distilleries, vineyards, and defense factories losing their jobs. Think of the unemployed beer truck drivers with no destination for their empty trucks! Congress won't let that happen to American workers.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yes, $37 billion per year. Compared to about $800 billion per year for DoD.
Once again looking at the cockroach and ignoring the gorrilla.
So, quickly doing the math here ... If we reduced the DoD budget by 90%, that would fund the energy bill and leave ... $683 billion in saved money per year.
Given that we're spending $800 billion per year to waste money, energy, resources, and lives, and only spending $37 billion per year for climate change reduction... where are Congressional/deep state/media priorities?
Stop wasting everyone's time with ludicrous propaganda.
Excessive Drinking is Draining the U.S. Economy
https://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/features/excessive-drinking.html
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yes, $37 billion per year. Compared to about $800 billion per year for DoD.
Once again looking at the cockroach and ignoring the gorrilla.
So, quickly doing the math here ... If we reduced the DoD budget by 90%, that would fund the energy bill and leave ... $683 billion in saved money per year.
Given that we're spending $800 billion per year to waste money, energy, resources, and lives, and only spending $37 billion per year for climate change reduction... where are Congressional/deep state/media priorities?
Stop wasting everyone's time with ludicrous propaganda.
SECOND: Going by what the CDC writes and what I saw on construction projects, alcohol costs the US about $800 billion per year. Is America about to stop drinking to save all that money? Will the money saved then go to prevent climate change? Will cutting defense spending increase spending on climate change? I think not for all three questions. Think of all the workers in breweries, distilleries, vineyards, and defense factories losing their jobs. Think of the unemployed beer truck drivers with no destination for their empty trucks! Congress won't let that happen to American workers.
Excessive Drinking is Draining the U.S. Economy
https://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/features/excessive-drinking.html
It's not a choice between giving up drinking or reducing CO2 emissions bc comparing those two is like comparing apples and bicycles. Yes, they both cost money, but that's where the comparison ends.
But slashing the DoD budget WILL reduce CO2 emissions, not only from all the fuel we won't be burning up tooling around the planet, but also all the fuel we won't be wasting in making shit that we don't need. If you really want to keep America employed (which I doubt) then use that money for conservation, forestry (including urban forestry), environmantal remediation, construction of fuel -efficient power plants, increasing grid efficiency etc etc.
Another excessively flawed argument!
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So, back on-topic:
Lavrov rejected the land-for-freeze concept, and he rejected it in the UN.
The Speaker for the lower House of the Russian Parliament said that Ukraine's choices are either surrender or be destroyed.
Several comments by Russian officials (including Shoigu) hint that Odessa and Kiev are targets.
Zelensky's trip to DC was a quiet failure. His trip to Canada was an international Nazi embarassment. And on his return trip through Poland he was not met with a single Polish government official. He has turned from celebrity to pariah, bc everyone knows the "counteroffensive" ... Ukraine's last big throw... was a bust.
Kiev was presented with a lengthy list of difficult reforms on impossible deadlines by the USA govt, or face a cutoff. AHEM!
Everyone expects a Russian offensive some time soon, since the army will be entirely trained up by early next year. Before that begins, expect an intense missile, rocket, drone and artillery attack on any possible offensive or defensive sites. Ukraine might have all of the USA's ISR available, but if they can't do shit to stop the Russian advance, all the ISR in the world isn't going to help.
And, mostly, you should have seen this coming. Maybe YOU don't have a grasp on reality, but reality has a grasp on you.
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September 27, 2023, 12:31 PM, Kathleen J. McInnis writes: I had the opportunity to ask dozens of people from around the region what, to them, “victory” looked like.
1) A frozen conflict. This seemed to be the view most prevalent outside of Ukraine itself. Essentially, in this scenario, the Russian front line holds across eastern Ukraine and Russia maintains its grip on the east and Crimea. Fighting continues, but the major victory is that Russia does not take all of Ukraine. The Black Sea Fleet continues to harass Ukraine at sea and by launching missiles and drones, and Russian forces continue bombing civilian and military targets across Ukraine. With investments in (or donations of) air defenses, the harassment is manageable for the Ukrainian forces. This could ultimately take the form of the war formally continuing without significant gains on either side, or as a cease-fire mixed with intermittent periods of conflict.
As a strategist far removed from the front lines, I was reluctantly persuaded that this was the most likely, but far from the most acceptable, conflict outcome. Yet my visit to Ukraine convinced me otherwise—in particular, from seeing the impact of Russian war crimes firsthand and being told of horrors beyond imagination.
The question of war termination, therefore, isn’t just about which flag is raised over which territory; if it were, a land-for-peace kind of deal could be feasible. Rather, Russia and its military forces have made it clear that they are intent on brutalizing and eradicating Ukrainian culture and people. Russians have tortured Ukrainians (and are still doing so), murdered them, and thrown them into mass graves. Tens of thousands of war crimes have been reported and, according to Ukrainian investigators I spoke with in Kyiv, those represent the tip of the iceberg. To the Ukrainians, a frozen conflict means allowing Russia to continue brutalizing their fellow countrymen and women in the east—and it invites Russia to attack Ukraine again later, once it has reconstituted its forces.
2) Every inch of Ukrainian territory is taken back. Almost every Ukrainian stated that this was the minimum necessary requirement for peace. In their view, anything short of regaining all of the territory that was part of Ukraine prior to the 2014 invasion (read: Crimea, too) would only result in a Russian strategic pause, and another bloody start to the war at the time of Russia’s choosing.
Ukrainian interlocutors also made the point that regaining Crimea remains essential, since the peninsula is a key piece of real estate for launching operations against the rest of Ukraine. Many Ukrainians also see their resistance as a bulwark against Russia’s neoimperial ambitions: If Russia can retain any part of Ukraine, its appetite for regaining other “lost” territories will never be suppressed.
The Russian regime is overthrown—not just Putin. Ukrainian interlocutors who made this point argued that Putin has staked his own regime’s survival on successfully winning Ukraine. Putin has used a martial, violence-oriented vision of masculinity to strengthen his grip on power and Russian society. A defeat in Ukraine—especially when Ukraine has been depicted as alternately fascist and corrupted by Western feminists—would severely undermine the authoritarian order that Putin has constructed. According to this logic, Ukrainians taking back Ukrainian territory could deal a death blow to Putin—yet without some kind of change in polity, another threatening authoritarian actor would likely take the reins in a post-Putin Moscow. Instead, this idea of victory envisaged the hope of a changed and chastened Russia.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/09/27/victory-ukraine-russia-war-putin/
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FP (Foreign Policy magazine) is well-known to reflect the thinking of one segment of the deep state. I don't recall if it's the CIA or State Dept or a certain segment of "neocon", but like almost all official/ establishment USA outlets, it's not trying to teach truth (or anything like it), just to tell you what to think now.
First of all, the author claims to have spoken with "dozens" of people in Kiev. As part of a recent Congressional junket to Ukraine, I have to wonder .. at what level are these "dozens" of people? Cab drivers and porters and waitresses and school kids and war veterans and surviving family members? Or bureaucrats and ministers telling Congress what they think they want to hear?
The article is behind a paywall, so I can't tell. But considering I question FP's basic honesty and integrity, I'm not sure that it matters, because I don't trust them to tell me the truth about pretty much anything.
And finally, even if the results of this unofficial survey (as limited as it was) were as written, all it tells me is that people there are a delusional as propaganda can make them. Which is pretty delusional, considering how delusional Americans can be. We (Americans) can be convinced of anything for up to a year, even if it flatly contradicts our direct experience, and then the narrative can be switched: the last delusion memory-holed and replaced by the next one (CHINA!CHINA!) with nary a hiccup in most people's thought processes.
Only a brutal, long-lasting experience that directly affects many Americans leaves a lasting impression on the collective psyche. (eg Vietnam for us olderster, or the 2007-2008 financial collapse)
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Point being, FP is pushing a newer agenda ('land for freeze') backed by one wing of the neocon/ deep state. (Somewhere in the background is probably an unstated hint to relax sanctions on Russia too.) I know that the CFR is behind this thinking, and I imagine that the DNC would love to scrape off Ukraine - and most likely Biden* too- before campaigning begins. Burns, of the CIA, seems none-too-hot on Ukraine, and neither is the DoD/MIC (They got rid of all their old weapons and now Project Ukraine is cutting into meat as well as fat.) There is still an intransigient nubbin of extreme neocon thought, centered most likely on Nuland, Kagan, Chrystia Freeland (Canada's real ruler), and Ursula van der Crazy who think that an actual Ukrainian military victory is still possible.
The first group is either not listening to Russia, or doesn't believe what Russia is saying: That Russia's beef begins and ends with eastward expansion of NATO which is directly degrading their security.
For all I know, they may be right. All of this tough talk and activity in Russia may just be a big bluff: calling on Ukraine to surrender, publicly rejecting 'land for peace', deepening its relationship with China, building up its own fleet of tankers and insurances and non-western markets (economic warfare), calling the non-western world together for new trade and currency arrangements (economic and financial warfare), mobilizing somewhere in the realm of a 500,000 army, doubling or tripling military production etc etc.
If so, that's one helluva bluff! IMHO Russia could EASILY overrun Ukraine and NATO couldn't do jack shit about it.
The more important question is: What next? Those missile bases in Poland and Romania are a different deal bc they're in NATO. It's possible that this huge Russian buildup to guarantee a "successful" outcome in Ukraine will be leveraged in their negotiations with NATO on the remaining issues.
The second group is just plain crazy.
You may not have a grasp on reality, but reality has a grasp on you.
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Quote:US foreign policy will confuse most people because there are six, that is right, six different foreign policy camps. The spectrum of thinking is outlined in the following article "The Scrambled Spectrum of U.S. Foreign-Policy Thinking"
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The article is behind a paywall, so I can't tell. But considering I question FP's basic honesty and integrity, I'm not sure that it matters, because I don't trust them to tell me the truth about pretty much anything.
To read Foreign Policy without a subscription can be done by using toggle reader view (F9) in the Firefox browser. F9 removes a bunch of stuff, leaving only words and a few pictures.
The Scrambled Spectrum of U.S. Foreign-Policy Thinking
Presidents, officials, and candidates tend to fall into six camps that don’t follow party lines.
SEPTEMBER 27, 2023, 5:33 PM
By Ash Jain, a former director for democratic order with the Atlantic Council’s Scowcroft Center for Strategy and Security.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/09/27/republican-debate-trump-biden-for
eign-policy-ideology/
Foreign policy is likely to feature prominently at the Republican presidential primary debates. At the debate in August, a question on whether the candidates would support continued U.S. assistance to Ukraine produced a firestorm. Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, who had previously suggested that Russia’s war in Ukraine was not a “vital” national interest, appeared skeptical, calling on Europe to do more instead. Entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy was more direct in opposing such aid, calling it “disastrous” for the United States to be “protecting against an invasion across somebody else’s border.” Former Vice President Mike Pence and former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley, on the other hand, expressed strong support for assisting Ukraine, effectively standing behind President Joe Biden’s efforts to counter Russian aggression while imploring the United States to do even more.
On the other side of the aisle, some Democrats have been wary of Biden’s policy on Ukraine, as evidenced by a letter (that was later retracted) sent to the president by progressive Democrats, calling for a diplomatic end to the conflict and potential sanctions relief for Russia.
In today’s polarized political atmosphere, such cross-cutting views may appear confounding. On most domestic policy issues, whether political leaders have an R or a D next to their name is often a pretty good guide to their take on any particular issue. But when it comes to foreign policy, the normal rules of politics do not apply. Instead, of much greater relevance is where a political leader falls on the foreign-policy ideology spectrum.
A visualization shows the six schools of foreign-policy thought, four interntionalists and two non-internationalists.
The schools of thought that make up this spectrum, reflecting fundamentally different views about the U.S. role in the world, are highly influential but not very well understood.
In seeking to differentiate between foreign-policy positions, the media often resorts to cliches, such as “hawks versus doves,” or buzzwords, such as “isolationist” and “neoconservative.” However, these terms tend to be oversimplified or exaggerated and convey little useful information. International relations theories are not all that helpful either. “Realism” is routinely conflated with an academic concept that predicts how nations can be expected to behave, rather than how they should. And other theories, such as “idealism” and “constructivism,” offer limited utility in understanding real-world decision-making.
Yet there are critical differences in how policymakers view the world and are seeking to influence the direction of U.S. foreign policy. There is a clear dichotomy, for instance, between those who believe that U.S. influence is mostly positive and that the United States should play an active role in global affairs and th
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Yeah, let's pretend that the interventionists to outright rabid neocons haven't been in control in a straight line from Bill Clinton thru Joe Biden*. Hillary Clinton? A psychopath.
Trump couldn't control them, and they've been smearing and sniping him ever since.
Oh, yeah, and let's not forget international grift and many hands dipping into slush funds (eg "rebuilding" Iraq and Afghanistan with pallets of unaudited money, selling protection to Burisma, churning the MICC complex etc).
USA foreign policy isn't "complicated". It's a clusterfuck of psychopathy, delusion, corruption, greed, treason, and arrogance.
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After listening to this excessively long video, and the string of comments from Russian officials, I've come to realize that the Russian government thinks it's outlasted the worst that NATO can throw at it,and there's no more need for diplomacy. They're open to hearing Kiev surrender, but that's about it.
Also, the USA has decided to threaten Modi, including the (Russian) diamond trade in his hometown, and largest diamond bourse in the world, Surat, and possibly the source of some of Modi's personal wealth.
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Russia said Thursday that it plans to raise defense spending by almost 70% next year, funneling massive resources into its Ukraine offensive to fight what it calls a "hybrid war" unleashed by the West.
According to a Finance Ministry document published Thursday, defense spending is set to jump by over 68% year-on-year to almost 10.8 trillion rubles ($111.15 billion). That's about 6% of Russia's GDP (per USA Today).
"It is obvious that such an increase is necessary, absolutely necessary, because we are in a state of hybrid war, we are continuing the special military operation," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said.
"I'm referring to the hybrid war that has been unleashed against us," he said.
Defense spending in 2024 is set to total around three times more than education, environmental protection and healthcare spending combined, figures calculated by AFP showed.
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/09/28/russia-to-hike-defense-spend
ing-by-almost-70-in-2024-ministry-a82589
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To the Last Ukrainian
By Oleksandr Moskalenko, September 28, 2023
The counter-offensive was not adequately prepared nor equipped. Much has been written about the absence of F-16 combat aircraft as a factor impeding success, yet a lot of other equipment was needed, including mine-clearing machines, heavy tanks, long-distance missile systems, and artillery shells.
Ukrainians have no choice but to fight. Russia’s stated policy is to destroy Ukraine as a nation, either by smashing its identity or killing everybody who remains loyal to that identity.
The only choice is whether my nation should die on its feet or on its knees.
More at https://cepa.org/article/to-the-last-ukrainian-what-weve-learned-from-
kyivs-counter-offensive/
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, back on-topic:
Lavrov rejected the land-for-freeze concept, and he rejected it in the UN.
The Speaker for the lower House of the Russian Parliament said that Ukraine's choices are either surrender or be destroyed.
Several comments by Russian officials (including Shoigu) hint that Odessa and Kiev are targets.
Zelensky's trip to DC was a quiet failure. His trip to Canada was an international Nazi embarassment. And on his return trip through Poland he was not met with a single Polish government official. He has turned from celebrity to pariah, bc everyone knows the "counteroffensive" ... Ukraine's last big throw... was a bust.
Kiev was presented with a lengthy list of difficult reforms on impossible deadlines by the USA govt, or face a cutoff. AHEM!
Everyone expects a Russian offensive some time soon, since the army will be entirely trained up by early next year. Before that begins, expect an intense missile, rocket, drone and artillery attack on any possible offensive or defensive sites. Ukraine might have all of the USA's ISR available, but if they can't do shit to stop the Russian advance, all the ISR in the world isn't going to help.
And, mostly, you should have seen this coming. Maybe YOU don't have a grasp on reality, but reality has a grasp on you
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Quote:Signym, you have the key attributes of both styles of Non-Internationalism, making you special:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yeah, let's pretend that the interventionists to outright rabid neocons haven't been in control in a straight line from Bill Clinton thru Joe Biden*. Hillary Clinton? A psychopath.
Trump couldn't control them, and they've been smearing and sniping him ever since.
Oh, yeah, and let's not forget international grift and many hands dipping into slush funds (eg "rebuilding" Iraq and Afghanistan with pallets of unaudited money, selling protection to Burisma, churning the MICC complex etc).
USA foreign policy isn't "complicated". It's a clusterfuck of psychopathy, delusion, corruption, greed, treason, and arrogance.
Key attributes of Non-Internationalist Retractors:
• Are deeply cynical about values and norms and seek and are prone to conspiracy theories and suspect the role of the “deep state” in manipulating U.S. policy
• Are critical of alliances and disdainful of U.S. allies, particularly in Europe, and believe efforts to cooperate through international institutions are naive and self-defeating
• Seek to “make deals” with autocratic regimes and are dismissive of democratic values and international norms
• Emphasize economic protectionism and closed borders to prevent others from “ripping America off”
• Believe the United States is militarily overcommitted but support occasional limited military actions to “act tough” and demonstrate U.S. prowess
Key attributes of Non-Internationalist Restrainers:
• Are distrustful of U.S. power and influence in the international system and believe that the United States has no standing to promote democratic values or a rules-based order, given its own flawed democracy, hypocrisy, and imperialism
• Believe the United States has picked unnecessary fights with adversaries and that its overseas military posture, alliances, and sanctions policies are often overly provocative
• Are wary of “inflating” threats posed by China and Russia and favor diplomatic efforts to cooperate with adversaries and reach a mutual accommodation and view a nationalistic foreign policy as arrogant and distasteful
• Seek to reduce the U.S. military presence overseas and to scale back commitments to NATO and other alliances and vigorously oppose the use of force
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Quote:Once again, your reading comprehension is abysmal.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yeah, let's pretend that the interventionists to outright rabid neocons haven't been in control in a straight line from Bill Clinton thru Joe Biden*. Hillary Clinton? A psychopath.
Trump couldn't control them, and they've been smearing and sniping him ever since.
Oh, yeah, and let's not forget international grift and many hands dipping into slush funds (eg "rebuilding" Iraq and Afghanistan with pallets of unaudited money, selling protection to Burisma, churning the MICC complex etc).
USA foreign policy isn't "complicated". It's a clusterfuck of psychopathy, delusion, corruption, greed, treason, and arrogance.
SCEOND: Signym, you have the key attributes of both styles of Non-Internationalism, making you special:
Quote:Like this hasn't been happening for 40+ years!
Key attributes of Non-Internationalist Retractors:
• Are deeply cynical about values and norms and seek and are prone to conspiracy theories and suspect the role of the “deep state” in manipulating U.S. policy
Quote:NOT AT ALL. If I were "critical" of efforts to cooperate through negotiation, I wouldn't be saddened by our failure to stick with most of the nuclear treaties we had set up. And I have respect for true alliances, just not the kind of satrapy of client states that NATO represents, or western-dominated "international institutions" like the ICC and the IMF and World Bank. If "international institutions" could ever become democratic (i.e. represent the interest of all nations by finding an "intersecting set" of principles) I might suport them. However, like all institutions, they can be dominated by a powerful elite. I think "multipolar" is an attempt to correct that.
• Are critical of alliances and disdainful of U.S. allies, particularly in Europe, and believe efforts to cooperate through international institutions are naive and self-defeating
Quote:"International norms" seems to be the right of the USA to regime-change or destroy any nation it doesn't like, and the inability of any other nation or group of nations to do jack shit about it. When we've "intervened" on an average of nine times a year for the past 30 years, that's an "international norm" we could do without.
• Seek to “make deals” with autocratic regimes and are dismissive of democratic values and international norms
Quote:The people "ripping off" America are often the American elite. But, yes, closed borders and tariffs were the norm for 200 years and what made America great. Close the borders and the USA might become more self-sufficient, and we would have to solve our own economic and financial dysfunctions without resorting to ripping off the rest of the world.
• Emphasize economic protectionism and closed borders to prevent others from “ripping America off”
Quote:"Occasional"????
• Believe the United States is militarily overcommitted but support occasional limited military actions to “act tough” and demonstrate U.S. prowess
"Demonstrate prowess"???
You mean, bully and terrorize the rest of the world, don't you?
Quote:True. That's ONE you got right. Except, I don't believe that we have the right to impose our values, no matter HOW "perfect" we've been.
Key attributes of Non-Internationalist Restrainers:
• Are distrustful of U.S. power and influence in the international system and believe that the United States has no standing to promote democratic values or a rules-based order, given its own flawed democracy, hypocrisy, and imperialism
Quote:How abou
• Believe the United States has picked unnecessary fights with adversaries and that its overseas military posture, alliances, and sanctions policies are often overly provocative
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Russian air defences have shot down one of the country’s most advanced fighter jets in a friendly fire incident, according to reports.
The Russian Su-35 was downed over Tokmak, Zaporizhzhia Oblast, on Thursday where Ukraine is mounting its counter-offensive.
A Russian Telegram channel with close links to the country’s air force appeared to confirm the incident on Friday when it paid tribute to the pilot, who did not survive.
Footage showing a fireball falling out of the sky began circulating on Friday.
Western analysts have said that Russia’s air force has an unusual toll of self-inflicted losses.
They believe that it is the result of a push to complete training quickly, the pressure of combat and a lack of experienced pilots.
Russia has lost four Su-35 jets since Vladimir Putin’s forces invaded Ukraine in February last year, according to the Dutch open-source intelligence outlet Oryx.
Russia has also experienced self-inflicted losses on the ground.
Earlier this month, more than 60 Russian soldiers were thought to have been killed or wounded by friendly fire as they made a hasty retreat from the village of Opytne, in the Donetsk region.
The chaotic withdrawal was mistaken for a rapid Ukrainian advance across an open field by a Russian drone operator, who ordered an artillery strike.
Much more at https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/09/29/ukraine-russia-war-l
ive-zelensky-putin-meets-troshev-latest/
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Quote:I guess you didn't notice that no American soldiers have died overseas since 2021. The US isn't actually "intervening" if no American soldier died.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:"International norms" seems to be the right of the USA to regime-change or destroy any nation it doesn't like, and the inability of any other nation or group of nations to do jack shit about it. When we've "intervened" on an average of nine times a year for the past 30 years, that's an "international norm" we could do without.
• Seek to “make deals” with autocratic regimes and are dismissive of democratic values and international norms
It is pretty hard to fight the "enemy" when there is no combat to point to that Americans are involved in. There are no American soldiers fighting in Ukraine, for example.
How many Americans died in combat in 2022? Zero. 2023? Zero. The last one to die listed at The Fallen was Air Force Lt. Col. James C. Willis, Died June 26, 2021 Serving During Operation Inherent Resolve, 55, of Albuquerque, New Mexico, was found dead at 7:30 a.m. June 26 at Al Udeid Air Base, Qatar, according to a U.S. Air Forces Central news release. The noncombat-related incident is under investigation.
https://thefallen.militarytimes.com/air-force-lt-col-james-c-willis/65
68839
Before this last death? There was Army Staff Sgt. Casey J. Hart
Died June 8, 2021 Serving During Operation Inherent Resolve, 42, of Baton Rouge, Louisiana, died June 8, 2021, at Walter Reed Medical Center in Maryland after suffering a medical emergency May 9 at Al-Tanf Garrison in Syria. Hart was assigned to the 256th Infantry Brigade Combat Team out of Lafayette. He also worked as a patrol officer for the Baton Rouge Police Department.
https://thefallen.militarytimes.com/army-staff-sgt-casey-j-hart/656883
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Another ally appeared to turn its back on Moscow on Thursday when Kazakh President Kassym-Jomart Tokayev said his country would not help Russia circumvent Western sanctions imposed over the war in Ukraine.
"Kazakhstan has unambiguously stated that it will follow the sanctions regime," Tokayev said.
Kazakhstan, which shares a 7,644-kilometre (4,750 mile) border with Russia, is a former Soviet state in Central Asia and Moscow's nominal ally in the Russian-led Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO).
https://www.newsweek.com/kazakhstan-russia-neighbor-sanctions-ukraine-
1830862
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Quote:Wrong. But it in any case, that's only a 2-year span. Not stellar example!
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:"International norms" seems to be the right of the USA to regime-change or destroy any nation it doesn't like, and the inability of any other nation or group of nations to do jack shit about it. When we've "intervened" on an average of nine times a year for the past 30 years, that's an "international norm" we could do without.
• Seek to “make deals” with autocratic regimes and are dismissive of democratic values and international norms
SECOND::I guess you didn't notice that no American soldiers have died overseas since 2021.
Quote:
The US isn't actually "intervening" if no American soldier died.
Once again, wrong. Military "trainers", "advisors", "intelligence" etc are in Ukraine, and getting killed. We also run mercs and fund, train, and arm proxies. And then there are the CIA ops, the foreign militaries that we train in the USA etc.
Sanctions, and secondary sanctions. International lawfare and hypocritical application of law.
And finally there are the NGOs including NED, USAID (both funded by govt) and other "helpful" organizations like HRW to stir up grievances to oust governments we don't like. one section agdinst another.
Quote:
SECOND: It is pretty hard to fight the "enemy" when there is no combat to point to that Americans are involved in. There are no American soldiers fighting in Ukraine, for example.
Are you trying to say we're not involved in Ukraine? That we're not funding Kiev and telling it what to do? We're just innocent bystanders watching from a distance?
BWAHAHAHA!
You're an idiot, SECOND!
You're just trying to rewrite history in real-time.
Quote:
SECOND: blah blah blah and more bullshit
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Quote:Remember this, Signym? Key attributes of Non-Internationalist Retractors:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
The US isn't actually "intervening" if no American soldier died.
Once again, wrong. Military "trainers", "advisors", "intelligence" etc are in Ukraine, and getting killed. We also run mercs and fund, train, and arm proxies. And then there are the CIA ops, the foreign militaries that we train in the USA etc.
Sanctions, and secondary sanctions. International lawfare and hypocritical application of law.
And finally there are the NGOs including NED, USAID (both funded by govt) and other "helpful" organizations like HRW to stir up grievances to oust governments we don't like. one section agdinst another.
• Are deeply cynical about values and norms and seek and are prone to conspiracy theories and suspect the role of the “deep state” in manipulating U.S. policy
Signym, you are just lying. Please spin out more conspiracies, like the one about Russians NOT murdering Russians by tens of millions because of their politics and the other conspiracy about Russia NOT torturing Ukrainians but Ukrainians torturing themselves. Signym, you have got special genes for dishonesty and lack of integrity and confusing up with down, true with false. It has gotten you into trouble in real life. Russians share those genes and that inherited character has caused them centuries of violently troubled history and economic backwardness. This time it will end very badly for Russia, like two bullets to the back of the head. Cheers!
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Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:Remember this, Signym? Key attributes of Non-Internationalist Retractors:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
The US isn't actually "intervening" if no American soldier died.
Once again, wrong. Military "trainers", "advisors", "intelligence" etc are in Ukraine, and getting killed. We also run mercs and fund, train, and arm proxies. And then there are the CIA ops, the foreign militaries that we train in the USA etc.
Sanctions, and secondary sanctions. International lawfare and hypocritical application of law.
And finally there are the NGOs including NED, USAID (both funded by govt) and other "helpful" organizations like HRW to stir up grievances to oust governments we don't like. one section agdinst another.
• Are deeply cynical about values and norms and seek and are prone to conspiracy theories and suspect the role of the “deep state” in manipulating U.S. policy
Signym, blah blah blah...
Yeah, like we DON'T have an actual history of destabilizing governments; recruiting, funding, training and arming proxies; supporting "rebel" movements with air power, outright invasions etc?
How stupid do you think we are, SECOND?
Project Ukraine is circling the drain, and you're trying to pretend that we (USA/ NATO) didn't just go all out to destroy Russia thru our fully-funded Ukrainian proxy. And failed!
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Quote:Yesterday I was talking to a manager about the price of R-410A. The manager smoothly lied and said the price was over $100 per pound to justify their pricing scheme for AC repair. The price is actually $400 or less for 25 pounds. It was a friendly conversation that brought up Trump, who the manager approved of. Signym, Trumptards, or those in a less virulent form who have said nice things about Trump as you have, are just natural-born crooks, liars, and thieves. You can't help being what you are, Signym.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yeah, like we DON'T have an actual history of destabilizing governments; recruiting, funding, training and arming proxies; supporting "rebel" movements with air power, outright invasions etc?
How stupid do you think we are, SECOND?
Project Ukraine is circling the drain, and you're trying to pretend that we (USA/ NATO) didn't just go all out to destroy Russia thru our fully-funded Ukrainian proxy. And failed!
https://www.google.com/search?q=R-410A+price
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Russia suggests using a nuke to scare the West into negotiations over Ukraine
Mikhail Kovalchuk, Russian President Vladimir Putin's ally, proposed testing nuclear weapons at Russia's nuclear test site in Novaya Zemlya, an Arctic Ocean archipelago, "at least once" to scare the West.
The Soviet Union conducted its first nuclear test, an underwater explosion, on Novaya Zemlya in 1955. Until 1990, a total of 130 tests were carried out at the site, including the October 1961 detonation of the largest nuclear weapon ever tested, the 50 Megaton Tsar Bomba hydrogen bomb. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar_Bomba
New satellite imagery obtained by the California-based Middlebury Institute for International Studies shared with Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty this week shows that Russia has significantly increased construction at Novaya Zemlya since 2021. There are at least two new buildings at the site, while ships and new shipping containers have arrived at its port, a comparison of imagery taken in July 2021 and in June 2023, showed.
Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu also paid the facility a visit in August, officials said.
Kovalchuk, head of the national research center Kurchatov Institute, was cited by Russian state-run news agency RIA Novosti as saying that the West's actions toward Russia are becoming "increasingly aggressive," and that many experts propose "adjusting the fundamentals of state policy in this area."
Kovalchuk said that. in 1961, the Soviet Union, in response to rhetoric from the United States, tested a powerful nuclear bomb, "after which the Americans immediately began to negotiate, instantly."
"The situation is exactly the same now. It's enough to carry out tests on Novaya Zemlya... At least once. And everything will fall into place," Kovalchuk added.
On October 3, Russian authorities will hold nationwide large-scale drills because of the "growing danger of armed conflicts including [with] nuclear-capable powers near Russia's borders."
The drills will imagine that the country is at least partially under martial law and that up to 70 percent of the country's housing facilities have been destroyed; that general mobilization has ended; and that there is the possibility of radioactive contamination.
Putin has said he would be prepared to use nuclear weapons to defend Russian territory.
"If the territorial integrity of our country is threatened, we will without doubt use all available means to protect Russia and our people—this is not a bluff," the Russian president said in a televised address to the nation in September 2022. Yesterday, Putin declared that the annexed parts of Ukraine are part of Russia.
More at https://www.newsweek.com/russia-nuclear-weapons-test-novaya-zemlya-183
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Quote:You're funny when you're hopping mad!
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yeah, like we DON'T have an actual history of destabilizing governments; recruiting, funding, training and arming proxies; supporting "rebel" movements with air power, outright invasions etc?
How stupid do you think we are, SECOND?
Project Ukraine is circling the drain, and you're trying to pretend that we (USA/ NATO) didn't just go all out to destroy Russia thru our fully-funded Ukrainian proxy. And failed!
SECOND: Yesterday I was talking to a manager about the price of R-410A. The manager smoothly lied and said the price was over $100 per pound to justify their pricing scheme for AC repair. The price is actually $400 or less for 25 pounds. It was a friendly conversation that brought up Trump, who the manager approved of. Signym, Trumptards, or those in a less virulent form who have said nice things about Trump as you have, are just natural-born crooks, liars, and thieves. You can't help being what you are, Signym.
https://www.google.com/search?q=R-410A+price
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Quote:You're funny when you're hopping mad!
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yeah, like we DON'T have an actual history of destabilizing governments; recruiting, funding, training and arming proxies; supporting "rebel" movements with air power, outright invasions etc?
How stupid do you think we are, SECOND?
Project Ukraine is circling the drain, and you're trying to pretend that we (USA/ NATO) didn't just go all out to destroy Russia thru our fully-funded Ukrainian proxy. And failed!
SECOND: Yesterday I was talking to a manager about the price of R-410A. The manager smoothly lied and said the price was over $100 per pound to justify their pricing scheme for AC repair. The price is actually $400 or less for 25 pounds. It was a friendly conversation that brought up Trump, who the manager approved of. Signym, Trumptards, or those in a less virulent form who have said nice things about Trump as you have, are just natural-born crooks, liars, and thieves. You can't help being what you are, Signym.
https://www.google.com/search?q=R-410A+price
Russians and Trumptards have in common a feeling that they are not getting the prosperity, happiness, and respect they deserve. When told they do NOT deserve it because they are liars, incompetent, and dangerous to all, Russians and Trumptards can't comprehend. They will deny that they are who they are, that they are nasty people who are getting what they deserve.
It is sad watching Russians or Trumptards convincing one another in their group that there is a vast conspiracy in the "West" or in the US government against nasty-acting people. There is really only their personal inadequacies and horribleness keeping them from being successful, prosperous, and happy with life. For Russians and Trumptards it must seem so much easier to go to war against the "West" or the US government than to fix even one thing about themselves, maybe fix their drinking problem, maybe their constant lying, maybe their incompetence, maybe their grating personality.
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Putin claims residents of annexed regions 'confirmed' will to join Russia
Russian President Vladimir Putin claims that residents of Russia-held regions in southern and eastern Ukraine expressed their desire to be part of Russia in recent local elections.
Moscow announced that it had annexed the Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions on September 30, 2022, after what was denounced by Kyiv and Western countries as "sham" and meaningless referendums conducted illegally and with massive coercion of voters.
Putin argues that Russia's invasion of Ukraine saved people from nationalist leaders in Kyiv who unleashed a "full-scale civil war."
Russia launched a full-scale war of aggression against Ukraine in February 2022. Russian forces do not entirely control any of the regions Putin claims were annexed and part of Russia.
https://p.dw.com/p/4WzTp
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Russia is defending its “sovereignty” and “spiritual values” by waging war in Ukraine, President Vladimir Putin said in a video address posted on the Kremlin website.
http://kremlin.ru/events/president/news/72403
Video message on the occasion of the Day of Reunification of the DPR, LPR, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions with Russia
September 30, 2023
Vladimir Putin: Dear friends! Dear citizens of Russia!
I congratulate you on the Day of Reunification of the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions with Russia.
A year ago, on September 30, a defining, truly historical and fateful event took place: agreements were signed on the admission of four new subjects of the Federation to Russia. Millions of residents of Donbass, Kherson and Zaporozhye regions have made their choice - to be with their Fatherland.
People made this conscious, long-awaited, hard-fought and truly popular decision together during referendums in full compliance with international standards, and showed courage and unyielding character. They tried to intimidate them, to take away the right to determine their own future, their destiny, to take away what is dear to every person - culture, traditions, native language - everything that was hated by the nationalists and their Western patrons, who staged a coup in Kiev in 2014, and then unleashed a full-scale civil war, terror against dissidents, organized a blockade, constant shelling and punitive actions in the Donbass.
But nothing and no one can break the will of millions of people, their faith in truth and historical justice. The people of Russia supported the free and unambiguous choice of our brothers and sisters with all their hearts, understood and deeply felt the main thing: by defending our compatriots in the Donbass and Novorossiya, we are defending Russia itself, together we are fighting for the Motherland, for our sovereignty, spiritual values ??and unity, for victory. I thank all citizens of the country for this unity and patriotic spirit.
Today we are also creating our common future together, restoring and building schools and hospitals, houses and roads, museums and memorials. All our regions provide truly fraternal assistance to the cities and towns of Donbass and Novorossia. Volunteers, public and religious organizations, parliamentary parties, entrepreneurs and labor collectives contribute to this work, to this common cause; the entire large, united country is doing a common cause.
An important step in strengthening our common state, political, and legal space was the recent elections in the Donetsk and Lugansk people's republics, in the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions. Just like a year ago, at historic referendums, people again expressed and confirmed their will to be with Russia, supported their fellow countrymen, those who, through hard work and real deeds, earned the people’s trust.
There is a lot of work ahead and the solution of complex problems, the implementation of a large-scale program for the revival and socio-economic development of our historical regions. And we will definitely achieve our goals.
I would like to especially address the residents of the Donetsk People's Republic, Lugansk People's Republic, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions. Thank you for the fact that, despite all the trials, you preserved and passed on your love for the Fatherland to your children. Thanks to you, your firmness and determination, Russia has become even stronger. We are one people and together we will overcome everything and respond to any challenges.
Happy holiday, dear friends, Happy Reunification Day with Russia!
https://kremlin-ru.translate.goog/events/president/news/72403?_x_tr_sc
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This is a story from 2022. http://kremlin.ru/events/president/news/69465
Signing of agreements on the admission of the DPR, LPR, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions to Russia
In the St. George Hall of the Kremlin, a ceremony was held to sign agreements on the admission of the Donetsk People's Republic, Lugansk People's Republic, Zaporozhye region and Kherson region to Russia and the formation of new subjects of the Russian Federation.
September 30, 2022
16:00
Moscow Kremlin
Vladimir Putin: Dear citizens of Russia, citizens of the Donetsk and Lugansk people’s republics, residents of the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions, deputies of the State Duma, senators of the Russian Federation!
You know, referendums were held in the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions. Their results have been summed up, the results are known. People have made their choice, an unambiguous choice.
Today we are signing agreements on the admission of the Donetsk People's Republic, the Lugansk People's Republic, the Zaporozhye region and the Kherson region to Russia. I am confident that the Federal Assembly will support constitutional laws on the adoption and formation in Russia of four new regions, four new subjects of the Russian Federation, because this is the will of millions of people.
(Applause.)
And this, of course, is their right, their inalienable right, which is enshrined in the first article of the UN Charter, which directly speaks of the principle of equality and self-determination of peoples.
I repeat: this is the inalienable right of people, it is based on historical unity, in the name of which generations of our ancestors, those who from the origins of Ancient Rus' for centuries created and defended Russia, won. Here, in Novorossiya, Rumyantsev, Suvorov and Ushakov fought, and Catherine II and Potemkin founded new cities. Our grandfathers and great-grandfathers fought to their death here during the Great Patriotic War.
We will always remember the heroes of the “Russian Spring”, those who did not come to terms with the neo-Nazi coup d’etat in Ukraine in 2014, all who died for the right to speak their native language, to preserve their culture, traditions, faith, for the right to live. These are the soldiers of Donbass, the martyrs of the “Odessa Khatyn”, the victims of inhuman terrorist attacks carried out by the Kyiv regime. These are volunteers and militias, these are civilians, children, women, old people, Russians, Ukrainians, people of various nationalities. This is the real people's leader of Donetsk Alexander Zakharchenko, these are the military commanders Arsen Pavlov and Vladimir Zhoga, Olga Kachura and Alexey Mozgovoy, this is the prosecutor of the Lugansk Republic Sergey Gorenko. This is paratrooper Nurmagomed Gadzhimagomedov and all our soldiers and officers who died a heroic death during a special military operation. They are heroes. (Applause.)Heroes of Great Russia. And I ask you to honor their memory with a minute of silence.
(Minute of silence.)
Thank you.
The choice of millions of residents in the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics, in the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions is our common destiny and thousand-year history. People passed this spiritual connection on to their children and grandchildren. Despite all the trials, we carried through the years our love for Russia. And no one can destroy this feeling in us. That is why both older generations and young people, those who were born after the tragedy of the collapse of the Soviet Union, voted for our unity, for our common future.
In 1991, in Belovezhskaya Pushcha, without asking the will of ordinary citizens, representatives of the then party elites decided to collapse the USSR, and people suddenly found themselves cut off from their Motherland. This tore and dismembered our national community and turned into a national catastrophe. Just as once upon a time after the revolution the borders of the union republics were cut behind the scenes, so the last leaders of the S
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Yeah, like we DON'T have an actual history of destabilizing governments; recruiting, funding, training and arming proxies; supporting "rebel" movements with air power, outright invasions etc?
How stupid do you think we are, SECOND?
Project Ukraine is circling the drain, and you're trying to pretend that we (USA/ NATO) didn't just go all out to destroy Russia thru our fully-funded Ukrainian proxy. And failed!
SECOND: Yesterday I was talking to a manager about the price of R-410A. The manager smoothly lied and said the price was over $100 per pound to justify their pricing scheme for AC repair. The price is actually $400 or less for 25 pounds. It was a friendly conversation that brought up Trump, who the manager approved of. Signym, Trumptards, or those in a less virulent form who have said nice things about Trump as you have, are just natural-born crooks, liars, and thieves. You can't help being what you are, Signym.
https://www.google.com/search?q=R-410A+price
SIGNY: You're funny when you're hopping mad!
SECOND: Russians and Trumptards have in common a feeling that they are not getting the prosperity, happiness, and respect they deserve. When told they do NOT deserve it because they are liars, incompetent, and dangerous to all, Russians and Trumptards can't comprehend. They will deny that they are who they are, that they are nasty people who are getting what they deserve.
It is sad watching Russians or Trumptards convincing one another in their group that there is a vast conspiracy in the "West" or in the US government against nasty-acting people. There is really only their personal inadequacies and horribleness keeping them from being successful, prosperous, and happy with life. For Russians and Trumptards it must seem so much easier to go to war against the "West" or the US government than to fix even one thing about themselves, maybe fix their drinking problem, maybe their constant lying, maybe their incompetence, maybe their grating personality.
SECOND: massive projection followed by walls of crap.
Dood, I have to wonder... what ARE you doing here?
You seem fixated on posting bullshit that nobody cares about and even THUGR doesn't believe.
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Quote:I guess you did not read the above news out of Russia from a year ago today. https://kremlin-ru.translate.goog/events/president/news/69465?_x_tr_sl
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND: massive projection followed by walls of crap.
Dood, I have to wonder... what ARE you doing here?
You seem fixated on posting bullshit that nobody cares about and even THUGR doesn't believe.
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Russia claimed up is down. You have done the same reversal of the truth, Signym, where you flip the meaning of everything. This is not the smartest thing to do. This perverse denial of the truth will not end happily for either Russia or for you. But when well-deserved misfortunes hit Russia, you, and Trumptards in general, I know how they will react. They will whine that it is all so unfair.
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'If Ukraine fails we will be next' - 30/09/2023
Georgian President Salomé Zourabichvili has issued a stark warning about the potential consequences if Ukraine succumbs to Russian aggression.
In an interview with LRT, a Lithuanian TV channel, she stated that if Ukraine falls, Russia will likely target either Georgia or the Baltic states next.
https://www.dagens.com/news/president-warns-if-ukraine-fails-we-will-b
e-next
Georgia, a country at the intersection of Europe and Asia, is a former Soviet republic on the Black Sea, as is Ukraine.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/oUv5TezWB49RSMCK6
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There are currently 98 pages to this thread, and SECOND's psyops/ propaganda/ crap/ hate speech accounts for most of it.
Take a break from the hate-fest, SECOND. It'll do you good.
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Quote:You didn't read Putin's speech justifying war? It goes like this for thousands of words:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
There are currently 98 pages to this thread, and SECOND's psyops/ propaganda/ crap/ hate speech accounts for most of it.
Take a break from the hate-fest, SECOND. It'll do you good.
"Let's answer very simple questions for ourselves. I now want to return to what I said, I want to appeal to all citizens of the country - not only to those colleagues who are in the hall - to all citizens of Russia: do we really want it to happen here, here in our country, in Russia, instead of mom and dad there was “parent number one”, “number two”, “number three” - are they completely crazy there already? Do we really want perversions that lead to degradation and extinction to be imposed on children in our schools from the primary grades? So that it is drummed into them that there are supposedly other genders besides women and men, and they are offered sex reassignment surgery? Is this all we want for our country and our children? All this is unacceptable for us, we have a different future, our own.
I repeat, the dictatorship of Western elites is directed against all societies, including the peoples of Western countries themselves. This is a challenge for everyone. Such a complete denial of man, the overthrow of faith and traditional values, and the suppression of freedom acquires the features of “religion in reverse” - outright Satanism. In the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus Christ, denouncing false prophets, says: by their fruits you will know them. And these poisonous fruits are already obvious to people - not only in our country, in all countries, including for many people in the West itself."
https://kremlin-ru.translate.goog/events/president/news/69465?_x_tr_sl
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Putin would make an excellent Republican Vice Presidential candidate because he is as nutty as Trump is.
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I don't need to read thousands of words. Putin tends to be long-winded anyway, like all lawyers.
It's all about eastward expansion of NATO. Full stop.
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Quote:Only if Georgia insists on joining NATO.
Originally posted by second:
'If Ukraine fails we will be next' - 30/09/2023
Georgian President Salomé Zourabichvili has issued a stark warning about the potential consequences if Ukraine succumbs to Russian aggression.
Yanno, I cringe every time one of these bubble-headed bimbos gets up to speak. They're an embarassment to women everywhere, performing for a pat on the head and "diversity -membership" status in "the boy's club".
I can't figure out who's stupider: "Dancing Queen" Sanna Marin, Annalena "360 degrees*" Baerbock, Urusla Van der Crazy, or Salame Pepperoni. Brainless meat puppets. The only differences between them and Biden* is that they're younger and better looking, and he was at one time smart enough to run actual scams and sell protection.
*Annalena once said that Putin would be punished if he didn't do a "360 deg" turn.
Think about that.
If the fact that she's Germany's Foreign Minister (at that level of incompetence) doesn't scare the pants offa you, you're dumber than she is.
And I hate to say it, but there's a whole slew of them in various leadership positions. I swear they were selected bc people would be afraid to attack them and be considered misogynist. There are plenty of incompetent men around, too, but these meat puppettes are in a whole new class by themselves.
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Quote:This politician used few words while making a very clear statement:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I don't need to read thousands of words. Putin tends to be long-winded anyway, like all lawyers.
It's all about eastward expansion of NATO. Full stop.
Russian official calls for the return of the Terror
He said that Russian forces had entered a "conflict of annihilation" and that "it's either us or them," before repeating a quote that he had given in a previous interview that Moscow would win and "will destroy 1, 2, 3 or 5 million Ukrainians."
"It's not based on me being bloodthirsty; it's just a fact," Gubarev said. "We either have to win or lose," and losing would mean "the decolonization of Russia."
Gubarev described the Ukrainian army as one of the strongest armies in the world, and that they were brave, although he said that they were "no different from us," repeating the idea pushed by nationalists that Ukraine is not a separate nation.
"But they are infected with the virus of anti-Russianness," Gubarev said. "I don't know how we can live together after our victory, short of cutting them all out, carrying out genocide on them all."
"We will have to re-educate them. We will have to drag some of them through camps," Gubarev added. "Some will have to be persuaded not just with words."
The comments provoked a strong reaction online. Gerashchenko said they showed how Gubarev "openly calls for genocide."
"An absolute masterpiece in the expression of the fascist mentality," wrote one user in the comments under the clip posted on underneath the video on Davis's YouTube Channel, Russian Media Monitor. "I think it is the most bone-chilling interview I have watched during the entire war."
"The calmness he speaks of the necessity of genocide is chilling," posted another user.
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-donetsk-pavel-gubarev-genocide
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Putin said the same without mentioning he'd kill 5,000,000 Ukrainians. Putin wisely withheld that detail, knowing it would cause an uproar if spoken from his mouth but Russia really will have to kill 5,000,000 to achieve 'Peace' in the aftermath of the 'Victory' over the Ukrainian Army:
Russia ‘may annex more of Ukraine’ as Putin warns ‘nothing and no-one’ will stop victory
https://metro.co.uk/2023/09/30/russia-may-annex-more-of-ukraine-as-put
in-says-no-one-will-prevent-victory-19583063/
Who knows if Putin can gain lasting 'Peace' by killing only 3, 2, or just 1 million after 'Victory'?
No one knows until Putin tries. One death is a tragedy but a million is a statistic.
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Quote:You failed to notice that male politicians have also changed their Russian stance:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Only if Georgia insists on joining NATO.
Originally posted by second:
'If Ukraine fails we will be next' - 30/09/2023
Georgian President Salomé Zourabichvili has issued a stark warning about the potential consequences if Ukraine succumbs to Russian aggression.
Yanno, I cringe every time one of these bubble-headed bimbos gets up to speak. They're an embarassment to women everywhere, performing for a pat on the head and "diversity -membership" status in "the boy's club".
I can't figure out who's stupider: "Dancing Queen" Sanna Marin, Annalena "360 degrees*" Baerbock, Urusla Van der Crazy, or Salame Pepperoni. Brainless meat puppets.
How the Ukraine war has profoundly changed the EU
The EU activated its temporary protection directive for the first time in history, giving more than 5.3 million Ukrainians the right to residence.
With the European Commission in the driving seat, it has for the first time imposed 10 rounds of economic sanctions against a country, all agreed unanimously. National sanctions enforcement has now even become an EU competence.
The bloc has provided military assistance to Ukraine – the first time that European institutions have directly provided military assistance (including lethal aid) to a state, on top of finally ending their resistance to getting involved militarily in support of a third state at war.
At the same time European economic supply chains, and not just energy, are being systematically protected, a process that started with the pandemic, in some way the precursor event that challenged the post-cold war liberalist view according to which interdependences supported a virtuous cycle of mutual gains.
The new currency of EU council meetings became debates about weapons systems, ammunition supply chains and sanctions loopholes, not trade regulations or debt financing.
The very fact that the EU’s financing of military equipment for Ukraine comes from a fund termed the European Peace Facility, set up only in 2021 and outside the formal EU treaties, underscores how quickly Brussels has not just had to improvise, but re-found its very purpose.
Zaki Laïdi, a special adviser to Borrell and a professor at Sciences Po, has underlined why February 2022 represented such a shattering challenge for the EU, and required such a change in mindset.
“The European project was first and foremost intended to prevent a new conflict between France and Germany,” he wrote. “It aimed to pacify intra-European relations through exchange and economic cooperation.
“The framework was therefore Kantian: it was based on the principle of peace through exchange. Foreign policy was left to the side, either because no European state at that time wished to surrender its sovereignty in this sensitive area, or because those who were willing to do so only imagined this action exclusively within the framework of Nato.”
Nicole Gnesotto, vice-president of the Jacques Delors Institute, concurs. “In one night Russia killed all EU philosophy since 1956. The European Economic Community was founded on the principle after the second world war that economic trade and interdependence was the best recipe for peace between France and Germany first, and then between Europe and the rest of the world. Overnight all this became obsolete.”
Some reforms in the field of EU security look revolutionary, and irreversible. V-Adm Hervé Bléjean, the head of EU military staff until June, recalls that within 36 hours of the invasion, the EU, “previously associated only with economic and soft power, decided unanimously to provide money for lethal equipment to a country at war. If you would have asked me if that was possible one month before, I would have laughed at the idea.”
The Russian invasion would have succeeded, he claims, but for the EU providing light arms to
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There are currently 98 pages to this thread, and SECOND's psyops/ propaganda/ crap/ hate speech accounts for most of it.
Take a break from the hate-fest, SECOND. It'll do you good.
The British are coming...
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Quote:Instead of Ukrainians going to Britain for training, the Brits go to Ukraine to train.
Originally posted by THG:
The British are coming...
T
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/30/british-troops-could-dep
loy-to-ukraine-to-train-soldiers-says-grant-shapps
British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak rowed back from British Defence Minister Grant Shapps' comments on Sunday, saying there were no immediate plans to deploy military instructors to Ukraine. "What the defence secretary was saying was that it might well be possible one day in the future for us to do some of that training in Ukraine," Sunak told reporters at the start of the governing Conservative Party's annual conference in Manchester.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russias-medvedev-says-british-tra
ining-troops-ukraine-could-be-legitimate-2023-10-01/
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Fuck Ukraine. 
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Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.
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Quote:Instead of Ukrainians going to Britain for training, the Brits go to Ukraine to train.
Originally posted by second:Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
The British are coming...
T
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/30/british-troops-could-dep
loy-to-ukraine-to-train-soldiers-says-grant-shapps
British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak rowed back from British Defence Minister Grant Shapps' comments on Sunday, saying there were no immediate plans to deploy military instructors to Ukraine. "What the defence secretary was saying was that it might well be possible one day in the future for us to do some of that training in Ukraine," Sunak told reporters at the start of the governing Conservative Party's annual conference in Manchester.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russias-medvedev-says-british-tra
ining-troops-ukraine-could-be-legitimate-2023-10-01/
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Yep
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The British are coming...
SECOND: Instead of Ukrainians going to Britain for training, the Brits go to Ukraine to train.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/30/british-troops-could-dep
loy-to-ukraine-to-train-soldiers-says-grant-shapps
And you keep insisting there is no USA military in Ukraine?
Your mind... it's a clusterfuck, SECOND. You literally can't keep track of what you posted from one day to the next.
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Weakness is Lethal: Why Putin Invaded Ukraine and How the War Must End
Nataliya Bugayova, Kateryna Stepanenko, and Frederick W. Kagan
October 1, 2023
Putin didn’t invade Ukraine in 2022 because he feared NATO. He invaded because he believed that NATO was weak, that his efforts to regain control of Ukraine by other means had failed, and that installing a pro-Russian government in Kyiv would be easy. His aim was not to defend Russia against some non-existent threat but rather to expand Russia’s power, eradicate Ukraine’s statehood, and destroy NATO, goals he still pursues.
Putin had convinced himself by the end of 2021 that Russia had the opportunity to safely launch a full-scale invasion of Ukraine to accomplish two distinct goals: establish Russian control over Ukraine without facing significant Western resistance and break the unity of NATO.
Russia deployed the principal units designed to protect Russia from NATO to Ukraine, which posed no military threat to Russia, in 2021 and 2022.[3] In 2023 - at the height of Russia’s anti-NATO rhetoric - Russia continued to withdraw forces and military equipment from its actual land borders with NATO to support the war in Ukraine.[4] Putin‘s fear of NATO manifested in his preoccupation with the West’s supposed hybrid warfare efforts to stage “color revolutions,” which Russia claimed the West had done in various former Soviet states including Ukraine.[5]
Putin has always been more concerned about the loss of control over Russia’s perceived sphere of influence than about a NATO threat to Russia. Putin’s actual issue with NATO and the West has been that they offered an alternative path to countries that Putin thought fell in Russia’s sphere of influence or even control. The “color revolutions” that so alarmed Putin were, after all, the manifestations of those countries daring to choose the West, or, rather the way of life, governance and values the West represented, over Moscow. NATO and the West threatened Russia by simply existing.
There is no path to real peace other than helping Ukraine inflict an unequivocal military defeat on Russia and then helping to rebuild Ukraine into a military and society so strong and resilient that no future Russian leader sees an opportunity like the ones Putin misperceived in 2022. This path is achievable if the West commits to supporting Ukraine in the prolonged effort likely needed to walk down it. If the West instead is lured by the illusion of some compromise, it may end the pain for now, but only at the cost of much greater pain later. Putin has shown that he views compromise as surrender, and surrender emboldens him to reattack. This war can only end finally not when Putin feels that he can save face, but rather when he knows that he cannot win.
More at https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/weakness-lethal-why-puti
n-invaded-ukraine-and-how-war-must-end
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Foreign ministers from the European Union have convened in the Ukrainian capital, Kyiv, for talks on the country's accession to the bloc.
It is the first time that all of the bloc's top diplomats have met beyond the EU's own borders.
Ukraine was officially granted EU candidate status last year in an unusually rapid decision by the bloc, which is relatively cautious about the speed of expansion.
https://www.dw.com/en/ukraine-updates-october-2/live-66978039
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Whenever a Russian official calls something a “proven fact,” it should set off alarms. And sure enough, here too the facts were invented out of thin air. Repeated exhaustive investigations — including by not only the Nuremberg trials but also the British, Canadian and even Soviet authorities — led to the conclusion that no war crimes or atrocities had been committed by this particular unit.
But this is just the latest twist in a long-running campaign by the Russian Embassy in Ottawa, dating back even to Soviet times, when the USSR would leverage accusations of Nazi collaboration for political purposes as part of its “active measures” operations.
And given Moscow’s own history of aggression and atrocities during World War II and its aftermath, there’s a special cynicism underlying the Russian accusations. Russia feels comfortable shouting about “Nazis,” real or imaginary, in Ukraine or elsewhere, because unlike Nazi Germany, leaders and soldiers of the Soviet Union were never put on trial for their war crimes. Russia clings to the Nuremberg trials as a benchmark of legitimacy because as a victorious power, it was never subjected to the same reckoning. And yet, both before and after their collaborative effort to carve up eastern Europe between them, the Soviets and the Nazis had so much in common that it’s now illegal to point these similarities out in Russia.
More at https://www.politico.eu/article/fight-against-ussr-nazi-waffen-ss-troo
per-yaroslav-hunka-world-war-ii-soviet-union-germany/
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
The British are coming...
SECOND: Instead of Ukrainians going to Britain for training, the Brits go to Ukraine to train.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/30/british-troops-could-dep
loy-to-ukraine-to-train-soldiers-says-grant-shapps
And you keep insisting there is no USA military in Ukraine?
Your mind... it's a clusterfuck, SECOND. You literally can't keep track of what you posted from one day to the next.
Reality check. Any NATO troops that are in Ukraine are there to protect their diplomats; their embassies. They are not fighting on the front.
And I for one am ambivalent about the Brits going in to train the Ukrainian military.
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'War of forecasts'. How close is Ukraine to victory: What the West and experts say
Mon, October 02, 2023 - 19:55
The Russia-Ukraine war will last at least until 2025, according to Oleksandr Musiienko, the head of the Center of Military Law Researches. This is partly because Russia hopes for a change in U.S. policy after the presidential elections. Therefore, Ukraine has no choice but to develop a counteroffensive strategy for 2024 and defense against Russian attacks.
In September, while speaking at the YES-2023 conference, German General Christian Freuding, the head of the Bundeswehr's Situation Center, assured of long-term support for Kyiv.
"The German parliament has presented a plan for military support to our Ukrainian friends until 2032. We are ready to provide long-term support. And we are ready to make time our ally, not Putin's," he said.
Oleksandr Kovalenko believes the "9-year scenario" is absolutely unrealistic.
"This is not quite the right understanding of what the senior officer of the Bundeswehr was talking about. It was about supporting Ukraine both during and after the war. Because after the war, we will also need assistance in restoring the combat readiness of our military structures, and our defense forces. This is a long-term project, designed not only for the period of hostilities but also for the future," he told RBC-Ukraine.
More at https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/war-of-forecasts-how-close-is-ukraine-
to-1696265720.html
Unless Ukraine permanently closes the Kerch Strait Bridges, the war never ends. There have been several attacks on the road and railroad bridges, but Russia can repair them because this is the War of Dumb vs. Dumber. Ukraine needs some smart structural engineers who understand where the bridge is weak and then some even smarter smart bombs to hit the weak spots until the bridge falls. Then Ukraine needs to sink the ferry boats running between Russia and Crimea. Can Ukrainians figure out how to do those things? I don't know. Maybe God or NATO will do it for Ukraine.
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How Dumb Are Ukrainians? Dumber Than Russians? The US had the same problem with Afghan officials, including Hamid Karzai and Ashraf Ghani, stealing almost as fast as the military aid arrived. Last time I checked, that corruption ruined Afghanistan.
Leaked U.S. strategy on Ukraine sees corruption as the real threat
Politico reports:
Biden administration officials are far more worried about corruption in Ukraine than they publicly admit, a confidential U.S. strategy document obtained by POLITICO suggests.
The “sensitive but unclassified” version of the long-term U.S. plan lays out numerous steps Washington is taking to help Kyiv root out malfeasance and otherwise reform an array of Ukrainian sectors. It stresses that corruption could cause Western allies to abandon Ukraine’s fight against Russia’s invasion, and that Kyiv cannot put off the anti-graft effort.
“Perceptions of high-level corruption” the confidential version of the document warns, could “undermine the Ukrainian public’s and foreign leaders’ confidence in the war-time government.”
That’s starker than the analysis available in the little-noticed public version of the 22-page document, which the State Department appears to have posted on its website with no fanfare about a month ago.
The confidential version of the “Integrated Country Strategy” is about three times as long and contains many more details about U.S. objectives in Ukraine, from privatizing its banks to helping more schools teach English to encouraging its military to adopt NATO protocols. Many goals are designed to reduce the corruption that bedevils the country.
The quiet release of the strategy, and the fact that the toughest language was left in the confidential version, underscores the messaging challenge facing the Biden team. [Continue reading at https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/02/biden-admin-ukraine-strategy-
corruption-00119237 ]
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'They're just meat': Russia deploys punishment battalions in echo of Stalin
October 3, 2023, 3:24 AM CDT
Fighters from a Storm-Z squad explain why they will no longer fight in Ukraine
By Polina Nikolskaya and Maria Tsvetkova
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/theyre-just-meat-russia-deploys-p
unishment-battalions-echo-stalin-2023-10-03/
LONDON, Oct 3 (Reuters) - Drunk recruits. Insubordinate soldiers. Convicts.
They're among hundreds of military and civilian offenders who've been pressed into Russian penal units known as "Storm-Z" squads and sent to the frontlines in Ukraine this year, according to 13 people with knowledge of the matter, including five fighters in the units.
Few live to tell their tale, the people said.
"Storm fighters, they're just meat," said one regular soldier from army unit no. 40318 who was deployed near the fiercely contested city of Bakhmut in eastern Ukraine in May and June.
He said he'd given medical treatment to a group of six or seven wounded Storm-Z fighters on the battlefield, disobeying an order from a commander - whose name he didn't know - to leave the men. He said he didn't know why the commander gave the order, but claimed that it typified how Storm-Z fighters were considered of lesser value than ordinary troops by officers.
The soldier, who requested anonymity because he feared prosecution in Russia for publicly discussing the war, said he had sympathy for the men's plight: "If the commandants catch anyone with the smell of alcohol on their breath, then they immediately send them to the Storm squads."
When contacted by Reuters, an officer at unit no. 40318 declined to comment on Storm-Z and ended the call. The Kremlin referred Reuters questions to the Russian defence ministry, which didn't respond to a request for comment.
Russian state-controlled media has reported that Storm-Z squads exist, that they took part in intense battles and some of their members received medals for bravery, but it has not disclosed how they are formed, or the losses they take.
Reuters is the first news organisation to compile a comprehensive account of how the squads are put together and deployed, by speaking to multiple sources with direct knowledge of what is happening.
Like the soldier from unit no. 40318, the 13 people interviewed - who also include four relatives of Storm-Z members as well as three soldiers in regular units who interacted with the squads - all requested anonymity, citing fear of reprisals. Reuters verified the identities of all the fighters involved using criminal records, social media accounts, or by speaking to their fellow serviceman and their families.
The penal squads, each about 100-150 strong and embedded within regular army units, have typically been sent to the most exposed parts of the front and often sustain heavy losses, according to Reuters interviews with the people, who identified at least five Storm-Z teams fighting to repel a Ukrainian counteroffensive in the east and south.
Three of the five Storm-Z fighters interviewed by Reuters, and the relatives of three other Storm-Z fighters, described nightmarish engagements that saw much of their squads wiped out.
One fighter, with a conviction for theft who was recruited from prison, said all but 15 of the 120 men in his unit embedded with the 237th regiment were killed or wounded in fighting near Bakhmut in June.
The deployment of such squads marks a departure for Russia in Ukraine: while the Wagner mercenary group - now being disbanded after a June mutiny - sent convicts to fight on the frontline, the Storm-Z units come under the direct command of the defence ministry.
The squads also combine convicts who volunteer to fight in exchange for the promise of a pardon with regular soldiers being punished for disciplinary breaches, the people interviewed said.
The Storm-Z squads are useful to the Russian defence ministry because they can be deployed as expendable infantry, according to Conflict Inte
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Following Military Summary Channel, it seems that there are very few Ukrainian attacks along the entire front, except just south of Bakhmut,where Ukrainians have concentrated drone and artillery strikes.
OTOH rumors abound of a pending Ukrainian offensive across the Dneiper river in the Kherson area, and possibly at Zaparozhiy Nuclear Power Plant. Again, rumors say that Ukraine has stopped attacking Russian fortified positions in order to build forces for this upcoming offensive.
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A Russian elite unit's motivation to fight dropped to "critical levels" amid high casualties in Ukraine, analysts said.
The respected Institute for the Study of War said that morale was ebbing in the VDV paratrooper force deployed near the city of Bakhmut.
It cited the analysis to a post by a recently-departed commander, Alexander Khodakovsky, who served on the front lines. He is now a member of Russia's active miliblogger community, a source of unofficial but often accurate information about Russia's war effort.
In the post, Khodakovsky recalled a conversation with another senior officer, the VDV's Andrei Kondrashkin, who was in Bakhmut.
Kondrashkin said, per the post, that "his forces suffered personnel losses and that their motivation to fight dropped to a critical level."
Russia's VDV units have been deployed in the region to make counterattacks to slow Ukraine's counteroffensive, suffering high casualties.
"Kondrashkin reportedly stated that the Russian military command demanded that his forces undertake 'decisive actions,' while he knew that his personnel were suffering a critical lack of motivation," the ISW said.
Khodakovsky said that he told Kondrashkin that had to "make a choice to either 'waste' his troops in combat or protest the Russian military command's order at the expense of his career."
But Khodakovsky claimed that Kondrashkin was killed in action before he could decide.
A senior commander, General Mikhail Teplinsky, then stepped in and "saved" the VDV unit by allowing them to take a break from front line combat, risking the wrath of superiors by doing so.
Russia's VDV units suffered high casualties in the initial weeks of the conflict, when they spearheaded Russia's ultimately unsuccessful attempt to quickly conquer Ukraine and seize its capital.
In more recent weeks, they've been deployed to try and stem Ukraine's counteroffensive. Traditionally, the units are used for specialised operations, not infantry combat.
Reports have emerged in recent weeks of heavy casualties in Russian units launching counterattacks to slow Ukraine's counteroffensive in the east and south of the country.
https://www.businessinsider.in/international/news/an-elite-russian-uni
ts-morale-is-at-critical-levels-after-being-sent-to-stop-ukraines-counteroffensive-analysts-say/articleshow/104134300.cms
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October 4, 2023, 5:15 AM
A court in Moscow on Wednesday handed a former state TV journalist an 8 1/2-year prison term in absentia for protesting Russia's war in Ukraine, the latest in a months-long crackdown against dissent that has intensified since Moscow's invasion 20 months ago.
Marina Ovsyannikova was charged with spreading false information about the Russian army, a criminal offense under a law adopted shortly after the Kremlin sent troops to Ukraine.
She held a picket in the Russian capital in July 2022 and held a poster that said “(Russian President Vladimir) Putin is a killer. His soldiers are fascists. 352 children have been killed (in Ukraine). How many more children need to die for you to stop?”
Ovsyannikova, who until March 2022 worked for Russia's state-run Channel One, was detained and placed under house arrest, but managed to escape to France with her daughter. Russian authorities put her on a wanted list and prosecuted and tried her in absentia.
In March 2022, Ovsyannikova made international headlines after appearing behind the anchor of an evening Channel One news broadcast with a poster that said “Stop the war, don’t believe the propaganda, they are lying to you here.” She quit her job at the channel, was charged with disparaging the Russian military, and fined 30,000 rubles ($270 at the time).
Thousands of Russians have been fined and hundreds have faced criminal charges over publicly speaking out or protesting against the war in the last 20 months. The Kremlin has used legislation outlawing criticism of what it insists on calling a “special military operation” to target opposition figures, human rights activists, and independent media.
Top Kremlin critics have been handed lengthy prison terms, rights groups have been forced to shut down, independent news sites were blocked and independent journalists have left the country, fearing prosecution.
https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/former-russian-state-tv
-journalist-gets-8-12-103713651
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