Real or Legend, What's Your Favorite Cryptid?

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OONJERAH

Friday, March 2, 2012 3:32 AM

Include here: What's Your Favorite Real Creature that Should Be Disproved?

Cryptozoology on Wiki => http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptozoology#Discoveries

"Cryptozoology (from Greek kryptos, 'hidden' + zoology; literally, 'study of hidden animals') refers to the search
for animals whose existence has not been proven."

"Cryptozoologists claim there have been cases where species now accepted by the scientific community were initially
considered superstition, hoaxes, delusions or misidentifications."

"Cryptozoology has been criticised because of its reliance on anecdotal information and because some cryptozoologists
do not follow the scientific method ..."
(Oonj: Yeah, and some investigate only the most famous and controversial cryptids.)
_____________________________

Platypus:
"The unusual appearance of this egg-laying, venomous, duck-billed, beaver-tailed, otter-footed mammal baffled European naturalists
when they first encountered it, with some considering it an elaborate fraud."

So-called facts about the so-called platypus :=> http://fusionanomaly.net/platypus.html

I admit that they are really cute. But that gives us no right to pretend they are real.
Join "the Platypus Does Not Exist" movement.

Personal responsibility is the Truth.
Self determination triumphs over reaction.

WISHIMAY

Friday, March 2, 2012 3:44 AM

I like the lizards from Korea?? I think it was, THAT ARE ALL FEMALE! Can someone explain THAT to my granny, she just thinks they are sinful male-hating lizards

OONJERAH

Friday, March 2, 2012 4:46 AM

Read this to her: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parthenogenesis
"Parthenogenesis is a form of asexual reproduction ... studied extensively in the New Mexico whiptail (genus Cnemidophorus),
of which 15 species reproduce exclusively by parthenogenesis"

The New Mexico whiptails don't hate the males ... they just can't find any.

Personal responsibility is the Truth.
Self determination triumphs over reaction.

WISHIMAY

Friday, March 2, 2012 5:15 AM

It was a joke...She's not THAT bad. I'm sure there are a few out there that would call hogwash though...

OONJERAH

Friday, March 2, 2012 6:17 AM

It'd make a cute headline, tho: "Whiptail Lizards Invent Cloning Before Human Scientists!"

Personal responsibility is the Truth.
Self determination triumphs over reaction.

FREMDFIRMA

Friday, March 2, 2012 1:09 PM

All time:
Komodo Dragon Lizard.

Runners up:
Oarfish aka Sea Serpent.
Colossal Squid aka Sea Monster.

All three of which were considered "no such thing" and "do not exist"...
Till someone actually FOUND one and all but bashed so-called experts over the head with it.

-F

FLORALBUNNY

Saturday, March 3, 2012 10:53 PM

...and the coelacanth (I hope spelled properly LOL).

Obviously the platypus is a shameless Photoshop project.

5 X chromosomes, 5 Y chromosomes?

Get real.

Pranksters should always avoid going over the top when presenting claims of cryptids, odd plants (e.g. The Monkees' Frodis flower), hauntings, psi phenomena, miracle drugs, political candidates....

bun
if it ain't one thing it's another.

(Actually, that's a terrific video; the little things are so cute!)

RIONAEIRE

Tuesday, March 6, 2012 2:58 AM

I'm actually kind of into cryptozoology, its something I've found interesting since middle or high school, I love learning about new animals I've never heard of before and I have a pretty open mind about new animals to be found. My favorite is the dinosaur that supposedly lives in the Congo, the river there is super deep and MonsterQuest unearthed some compelling evidence. So its my favorite.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

FLORALBUNNY

Tuesday, March 6, 2012 7:14 PM

I hope Nessie is either found or satisfactorily explained before I shuffle off this mortal coil. It was my first mystery beast, and I'll always be attached to it/her.

bun

OONJERAH

Tuesday, March 6, 2012 9:12 PM

Crocodiles lived during the reign of the dinosaurs, so they are dinosaurs that didn't die out.
How ancient is the Komodo? There could be more living dinosaurs. I hope.

OONJERAH

Wednesday, March 7, 2012 8:26 PM

Top: coelacanth. I chose the drawing as it shows the best detail.
Bottom: Oarfish. They are long like a snake with a "filament" crest. Dorsal fin goes length of the body.

OONJERAH

Wednesday, March 7, 2012 8:29 PM

Top: Leafy dragon. I know nothing about it.
Bottom: Komodo dragon taking a walk on the beach.

RIONAEIRE

Thursday, March 8, 2012 12:06 AM

My favorite proven ones are Komodos, platapusses and achidnas, any mammal who lays eggs is good with me, that is so cool. And any animal that people thought was extinct but then found again, like the fish you showed above, can't spell it.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

FLORALBUNNY

Thursday, March 8, 2012 6:40 PM

Nile crocs are special. They look like tree-bark floating in the water.
I love that leafy green fish. Never saw one before!
We have a huge grey cat who reminds me of that K. dragon. Or a big, fat bear.

Modern-day birds are easily seen as having evolved from dinos. When I have that thought and look at one I experience a perceptual shift which seems to explain a number of things about birds and may help with dinos as well.

We are now discovering colored feathers on dino fossils. I'm eager to see more re-visualizations of these creatures, having been familiar since childhood with a) bare bones and b) leather-couch-style finishing.

bun

OONJERAH

Sunday, March 11, 2012 12:25 AM

Top: Echidna = spiny anteater
Low left: mokele-mbembe of the Congo
Low right: Hummingbird moth = Hemaris sp.

Sorry. I've not yet found a photo of the real dino.

FLORALBUNNY

Sunday, March 11, 2012 6:21 PM

I love hummingbird moths! A lot of people don't know what they are and get all confused when they spot one. Then they call up the all-night flying saucer show and ask if they're aliens.

That Echidna is really cute. No-o-ot quite pettable, though.

For goodness' sake, no photos of dinos? We have the intertubes at our fingertips, and improved searching all the time!!1!

bun

OONJERAH

Monday, March 12, 2012 2:58 AM

Mokele-mbembe: The Living Dinosaur! => http://www.mokelembembe.com/
This page tells all about the beastie.

1 April 2011 - Darren Naish's blog => http://scienceblogs.com/tetrapodzoology/2011/04/science_meets_mokele-m
bembe.php
"After decades of searching, Africa's mystery Congolese swamp monster,
the Mokele-Mbembe, has been discovered - it is a living sauropod dinosaur"

This article is long with a lotta pictures. It starts fairly
well, but skimming down, I soon realized that the fellow is having us on.
It was, after all, the day for it.

WISHIMAY

Monday, March 12, 2012 3:26 AM

I think the Hellbender is interesting, if nothing else just because it's so weird it deserved such an awesome name. One aquarium that was supposed to have it didn't, and another had the habitat soo dark it was impossible to see it.

I'd love to see one up close.

The other thing that sticks in my head is the Blobfish, as it looks like it should be able to carry on some innane conversation about shoelaces or umbrellas for HOURS.

Also the Dumbo Octopus, because it looks surrealistically like a Pokemon...

BTW, We had a hawk hit our living room window today, flying at an angle to get something, and it hit soo hard it left a streak, and I thought the window was gonna break. Nature loves wacky-ness!

FLORALBUNNY

Friday, March 16, 2012 1:26 AM

The latest news is that human-ish bones which have been kicking around in a museum drawer for 30 years may be their own separate line.

bun

OONJERAH

Friday, March 16, 2012 1:37 AM

Yeah, I saw that. China, yes?

FLORALBUNNY

Friday, March 16, 2012 2:18 AM

Yep. Was hearing about it on Beeb overnight. Will be interesting to see if it pans out.

bun

OONJERAH

Friday, March 16, 2012 4:09 AM

Top: Dumbo octopus
Low left: Blob fish
Low right: Axolotl

RIONAEIRE

Friday, March 16, 2012 5:51 AM

The little guy on the bottom left is really cute.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

FLORALBUNNY

Friday, March 16, 2012 5:19 PM

Who's the handsome dude upper right?
And where do you get these images?

bun

WISHIMAY

Friday, March 16, 2012 6:30 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by FloralBunny:
Who's the handsome dude upper right?

Yer kidding, right?? Morgan Freeman (otherwise know as GOD) Robin Hood, Brice Almighty, Dark Knight, Shawshank Redemption, Sum of all fears,Unforgiven, Seven, Deep Impact, March of the Penguins, Mandela..ect.

I think I remember he narrated the bible on tape?? I'd listen to that man read a phone book.

FLORALBUNNY

Friday, March 16, 2012 7:29 PM

Eeek, no. Morgan F. is part of our DNA by now. I meant the upper right of the photos. The bulgy yellow guy.

bun

WISHIMAY

Friday, March 16, 2012 10:45 PM

Sorry, I just heard "handsome dude" not directionals.. I think that is the baby dumbo octopus, growing into the thing on the left....
That's the one I think looks like a pokemon.

FLORALBUNNY

Saturday, March 17, 2012 3:19 AM

Oddly, I was thinking Pokemon as well.
I was also thinking Dale Chihuly, looking at all of these except for Morgan F.

bun

OONJERAH

Tuesday, April 3, 2012 12:47 AM

An Irishman's Diary [the British Isles learns of Yeti?] =>
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2012/0317/1224313474014.ht
ml

Lieut-Col Charles Kenneth Howard-Bury's 1921 expedition to Mt Everest:
"On October 12th The Irish Times reported that the expedition had failed
to conquer Everest but “that everybody will be glad that at last partial
success has crowned the heroic efforts”. A path had been found “which has
proved that ascent to the top of Everest’s 29,000ft is feasible for expert
and dauntless climbers under favourable weather conditions”.

"In fact, it took over 30 years – until May 29th 1953 – when New-Zealander
Edmund Hillary and his Nepalese Sherpa, Tenzing Norgay became the first
climbers to reach the summit of Mount Everest."

Then - "But an extraordinary sequel to the Howard-Bury expedition was about
to unfold. An Irish Times story on Friday, October 21st, 1921 carried a
headline guaranteed to thrill readers: “Wild Hairy Man – Strange Footprints
on Everest”.

"The report quoted remarks made by Howard-Bury: “We distinguished hare and
fox tracks, but one mark like that of a human foot, was most puzzling. The
coolies assured us that it was the track of a wild, hairy man, and that
these men were occasionally to be found in the wildest and most inaccessible
mountains.” And thus was born a 20th-century yarn eclipsed only by the Loch
Ness Monster.

"On October 31st, The Irish Times carried a further report, from Calcutta,
which stated that: “The coolies from Mount Everest bring confused stories
about strange wild men . . . who are apparently known to the Tibetans as
Meetogh Kangmi or “abominable snowmen” and small colonies of these people
are believed to exist on the slopes of Everest”. The creatures were “never
seen by any of the white members of the Expedition” but “one coolie described
their feet as being turned outwards, and reported that they were supposed to
be clothed only in their own hair. They are reported to live on wild animals,
and to be hostile to civilised people, but it is quite easy to evade them”.

OONJERAH

Tuesday, April 3, 2012 12:49 AM

Bigfoot? He's not so elusive =>
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/mar/27/entertainment/la-et-bigfoot-20
120327

"Imagine a hulking, growling, 8-foot-tall woodland creature so elusive
that professional trackers can't find it, scientists can only speculate
about it and believers can't prove -- definitively -- that it exists.
. . .
"There's been a real upswing in scholarly interest along with this huge
undercurrent of popularity among the general public," said Jeffrey Meldrum,
the Idaho State anatomy and anthropology professor and primates expert who
wrote "Sasquatch: Legend Meets Science" as a companion to a Discovery
Channel special of the same name. "There's something about the human psyche
that really connects with this icon."

. . . . .The worst and most frequent consequence of paranoia is that it's self-fulfilling.

FLORALBUNNY

Tuesday, April 3, 2012 2:20 AM

Evidently, James Cameron found nothing fantastic at the bottom of the Marianas Trench. Must be too far down.

bun

RIONAEIRE

Tuesday, April 3, 2012 4:56 AM

He didn't see anything? I know the first time they went down they found a fish, but cameron didn't see anything? What????? (insert irritation and disappointment here)

I assume you're my pal until you let me know otherwise. "A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

OONJERAH

Tuesday, April 3, 2012 5:42 AM

I didn't read what he said.
The term "featureless landscape" comes to mind.

RIONAEIRE

Tuesday, April 3, 2012 6:18 AM

I'm quite into deep ocean creatures, I especially like the glowy ones.

I once had this creepy dream that has stuck with me, I dreamt that I was in a sub down 25,000 feet and there were these swimming orangatans that made noises like the shrieking eels on Princess Bride, they were swimming around down there. REdiculous I know but it scared me and, secretly, kind of still gives me the shivers.

I assume you're my pal until you let me know otherwise. "A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

OONJERAH

Thursday, April 5, 2012 4:50 AM

Not a cryptid, but interesting . . .

Yutyrannus huali: Latest dinosaur find is a big, fuzzy brute =>
http://www.thespec.com/news/world/article/699553--latest-dinosaur-find
-is-a-big-fuzzy-brute

Fossils discovered in northeastern China of a giant, previously
unrecognized dinosaur show that it is the largest known feathered
animal, living or extinct, scientists report.

Although several species of dinosaurs with feathers have already
been uncovered in the rich fossil beds of Liaoning province, the
three largely complete 125-million-year-old specimens are by far
the largest. The adult was at least 10 metres long and weighed a
ton and a half, some 40 times the heft of Beipiaosaurus, the
largest previously known feathered dinosaur. The two juveniles
were a mere half ton each.

The new species was a distant relative of Tyrannosaurus rex,
the mighty predator that lived 60 million years later.

In an article in the journal Nature, published online Wednesday,
Chinese and Canadian paleontologists said the discovery provided
the first “direct evidence for the presence of extensively feathered
gigantic dinosaurs” and offered “new insights into early feather
evolution.”

New York Times

Did Dinosaurs Really Have Feathers?

RIONAEIRE

Thursday, April 5, 2012 5:01 AM

I wish all these amazing creatures weren't extinct. :(

I assume you're my pal until you let me know otherwise. "A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

OONJERAH

Tuesday, April 10, 2012 4:37 AM

OONJERAH

Saturday, April 14, 2012 6:57 PM

Bogue: Is 'bigfoot' a real, live creature? =>
http://www.mercurynews.com/gary-bogue/ci_20193380/bogue-is-bigfoot-rea
l-live-creature

Dear Gary: OK, old master of the universe, you've got to help me.
My wife says I am crazy, and I told her I knew you and us guys stick together,
so here goes:
I have been watching the "Finding Bigfoot" series on TV's Animal Planet faithfully
since last year and was wondering if you believe in Bigfoot to be a fact.

There is a lot that could be real but, then again, there may not be.
I have never seen anything on it in your columns. What do you think? True or not?
I will believe whatever you say. ...

OONJERAH

Wednesday, April 18, 2012 12:55 AM

WISHIMAY

Wednesday, April 18, 2012 1:44 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by RionaEire:
... secretly, kind of still gives me the shivers.

Should I point out this is THE WORLD WIDE WEB??

RIONAEIRE

Thursday, April 19, 2012 12:03 AM

Good point Wish, :)

I assume you're my pal until you let me know otherwise.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya.

OONJERAH

Tuesday, April 24, 2012 5:05 AM

Using Leeches to Track the World’s Rarest Animals =>
http://gizmodo.com/5904496/using-leeches-to-track-the-worlds-rarest-an
imals

The Grizzly Bear, the Snow Leopard, the Orangutan—these animals were once thought
to be mere folklore before their existences were proven with hard, biological evidence.
Now, one research team wants to harvest the same evidence from the world's wilds
using a natural collection network of leeches.

Monitoring wildlife is both an essential aspect of any conservation effort and one of
its most difficult challenges. ...

(Were folklore: panda, duckbilled platypus, okapi, Komodo dragon, bonobos chimp.)

OONJERAH

Monday, November 26, 2012 8:47 PM

Reposted from RWED where ...
the anthropology news of the century is of No Interest.
Indeed, I feel certain that the MSM and science communities
will continue to ignore it while they still can.

Press release, Dr. Ketchum's Bigfoot DNA study results:
(24 Nov 2012)
http://dnadiagnostics.com/press.html

"A team of scientists can verify that their 5-year long DNA
study, currently under peer-review, confirms the existence of
a novel hominin hybrid species, commonly called “Bigfoot” or
“Sasquatch,” living in North America. Researchers’ extensive
DNA sequencing suggests that the legendary Sasquatch is a ..."

"Ketchum calls on public officials and law enforcement to
immediately recognize the Sasquatch as an indigenous people ..."

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A man's gotta know his limitations. ~Dirty Harry

PENGUIN

Monday, November 26, 2012 11:03 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by FloralBunny:
I love hummingbird moths! A lot of people don't know what they are and get all confused when they spot one. Then they call up the all-night flying saucer show and ask if they're aliens.
{/B]

We always called them "Sphinx moths".

Do penguins count as Cryptid??

King of the Mythical Land that is Iowa

FLORALBUNNY

Tuesday, November 27, 2012 8:15 PM

Probably only some exotic sub-species, six feet tall or four-winged, or possessed of fangs with which to fend off the odd predatory shark...

bun

WISHIMAY

Wednesday, November 28, 2012 4:39 AM

I think the most memorable experience with a winged critter I will always remember was a Lunar Moth that took refuge on my kitchen window during a thunderstorm, I have never seen one since and after looking this one up I doubt I will ever seeone THAT BIG again. Also, I hear that some species of moths and butterfly can have a wingspan almost a foot in length. I could see them plotting revenge on neighborhood cats, for some reason...

OONJERAH

Wednesday, November 28, 2012 7:17 AM

the eloquent Mike Rugg on Who/What are Bigfoots &
controversy over the upcoming Ketchum DNA report

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A man's gotta know his limitations. ~Dirty Harry

FLORALBUNNY

Friday, November 30, 2012 6:42 AM

Terrific video, OONJERAH! I wish we had Rugg's opinion of Siberian Almas, who seem from some accounts, to be nearly human.
I have friends and family in the Cruz - - must ask what they've seen or heard, if anything.
If anything comes of the DNA testing I think it will be the first. To the best of my recollection, previous testing has indicated everything from "not even hair, but vegetable fibers" to "deer hair."
If these creatures do exist, they need to be protected from dingbats who might blow them away in order to prove their existence, the way explorers did at the turn of the last century.

bun

WISHIMAY

Friday, November 30, 2012 6:57 AM

Turn of the last century nothin'- I wish people would stop blowing away the albino deer just 'cause they are different...

"Oh look Fred- that one's extra purty! Let's kill it!" I don't EVEN get that... I guess to some people anything that moves is fair game but DAMN they suck...

OONJERAH

Friday, November 30, 2012 7:24 AM

The Texas Bigfoot Research Conservancy (TBRC) is, even as
I write this, organising for their next, well-armed, Bigfoot
hunt. Their position, which agrees with many, is the truth
of BF's existence will never be settled without a Bigfoot
body ... I dunno if anyone has ever told them about tran-
quilizer darts.

My opinion agrees with Native American: Bigfoot is primarily
human. So to hunt & kill one would be murder.

BRB

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A man's gotta know his limitations. ~Dirty Harry

OONJERAH

Friday, November 30, 2012 7:59 AM

American Bigfoot scientists and researchers felt hoodwinked by
Russian Yeti event
By idoubtit - October 24, 2011
http://doubtfulnews.com/2011/10/american-bigfoot-scientists-and-resear
chers-felt-hoodwinked-by-russian-yeti-event/

Dr. Jeff Meldrum, professor of anatomy and anthropologist
at Idaho State University, has spoken out about his recent
excursion to Siberia to examine the existence of the Russian
Yeti. Dr. Meldrum was a featured speaker at the Pennsylvania
Bigfoot Conference in Youngwood, PA on Sunday, October 23.
His conclusion: the yeti evidence was poor and he and other
researchers were brought to Russia to add credibility to the
local claim that yetis live in the area.
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ETA: Still looking.
Mike Rugg has over 100 videos on YouTube; he's interesting,
down-to-earth IMO. His web site:
http://www.bigfootdiscoveryproject.com/

I am aware that no Bigfoots live in Europe proper, because it
is heavily populated. Apparently.
Wild men that may have lived there in mideval times (woodwose,
wudewasa) long ago retreated to the wilds of Russia.
http://www.bigfootencounters.com/creatures/wudewasa.htm

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A man's gotta know his limitations. ~Dirty Harry

OONJERAH

Friday, November 30, 2012 8:48 AM

FloralBunny: "I wish we had Rugg's opinion of Siberian Almas,"
If you mean the huskies, I don't know if Rugg has a dog.

Siberian wildmen mentioned below are news to me.
Cryptomundo: http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/siberia-ftprt/

... discussed “Siberian Neandertals” a year ago, in October 2007,
here. The notion there are unknown hairy hominoids in Siberia is
well-established.

The various reports go by different names. They are called Mecheny,
Mirygdy, Chuchunaa, Mulen, or Wildmen; some former Soviet Snowmen
Commission scientists and a few Chinese in the last century have
studied them. The Chuchunaa, the sometimes-raggedly-clothed, eastern
version of the Mirygdy, are sighted in Eastern Siberia.

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A man's gotta know his limitations. ~Dirty Harry

OONJERAH

Sunday, December 2, 2012 12:00 AM

Almasty?, Almas is singular?

"Bigfoot Research, the Russian Version" by Dmitri Bayanov
Book review, Mike Rugg, no mention of Almasty:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almas_(cryptozoology)#cite_note-1
"Almas, Mongolian for "wild man", is a purported hominid cryptozoological
species reputed to inhabit the Caucasus and Pamir Mountains of central
Asia, and the Altai Mountains of southern Mongolia."

http://www.unknown-creatures.com/almas.html
Interesting Sighting Details of the Almas
Almas is a Mongolian word for wild man. The plural term almasty
is derived from Russian, while other variations of the name are
almasti, almaslar, bnahua, and ochokochi, which translates as the
name for a forest deity in the West Asian regions, such as Armenia
and Georgia. Current accounts of the most recent sightings of the
almas locate it near the southern part of Mongolia, along the Altai
Mountains and the Tien Shan pass near the northern border of China.

1992 News, Hunting the Almasty
http://www.bigfootencounters.com/articles/russian.htm

Oonjerah: My own prejudice about undocumented APEmen or Wildmen is:
Probably more man than ape if they've eluded hunters for centuries.
Gorillas in Africa have tried this, too, but when they get found out,
are soon on the endangered list.
If the Wildmen are also endangered, it's not from being hunted by men,
but may be from destruction of habitat.

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A man's gotta know his limitations. ~Dirty Harry

FLORALBUNNY

Sunday, December 2, 2012 9:25 PM

As I remember it from some years back I was up late one night listening to the all-night flying saucer show (Art Bell Coast to Coast AM or wotever)when someone came on the air who told a story of a couple of female "alma" creatures who were captured, kept caged in a town in Siberia, and eventually died there. From what the guest said, it wasn't the first time these beings had been seen in the area. Could he have had the name wrong, substituting one from another region? Dunno. Possible.
It has been so dratted long that I couldn't begin to guess at the name of the guest. There's turnover in these things, as in anything else, as witness even the hosts of the show.

bun

OONJERAH

Monday, December 3, 2012 10:03 PM

from TheBigfootForums:

"my daughter who is in the Army Natl' Guard was stationed at Fort Lewis,
Washington was given a manuel of the Army Corp. of Engineers showing to
Flora and Fuana of the base before they headed out for recon, they were
shown in the manuel the Sasquatch and told that if they encounter such
creatures to just avoid them and leave them alone."

At Fort Lewis, WA, Bigfoot in an Army manual?

This is the 2nd report of it I've read. I looked it up on the sightings
data base, and yes, Fort Lewis/Pierce county WA is a 'Squatch hot spot.
Perfect terrain and climate for them?

In an update from Dr. Ketchum, when the DNA report is published, they will
also release “Hi-Def video of some sasquatch it’s quite remarkable. It’s
amazing.”
http://myfox8.com/2012/12/01/texas-researcher-claims-to-have-dna-provi
ng-that-bigfoot-is-real/
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There is a lot of old, but-new-to-me stuff I've been reading lately. It is
not quite coherent yet; hope to comment on it later.

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A man's gotta know his limitations. ~Dirty Harry

OONJERAH

Wednesday, December 5, 2012 6:12 AM

Communication?

Bigfoot Recordings
http://www.bigfootsounds.com/experts-point-of-view/r-scott-nelson/

"We have verified that these creatures use language by the human
definition of it. The months of hard work that we have put into the
study of the Berry/Morehead tapes is finally coming to fruition.
The analysis is finished, although I am still working on parts of the
final write-up such as frequency count tables, morpheme lists, etc."

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"All I suggest is a man hears what he wants to hear, and disregards the rest" ~Paul Simon

OONJERAH

Thursday, December 6, 2012 12:02 AM

Sasquatch Genesis - the Origin of Bigfoot
The Theory of Human Hyridization with an Archaic Hominin Lineage
David Claerr, Yahoo! Contributor Network - Dec 5, 2012
http://voices.yahoo.com/sasquatch-genesis-origin-bigfoot-11922139.html
?cat=37

The Footers (community of folks interested in Bigfoot, includes
dissenters & proponents) and the Scoffers (columnists who regularly
ridicule the possibility of Bigfoot) have really been stirred up by
the announcement that DNA proof of Bigfoot will soon be published.
That's a long read & I've waded thru some of it, tho I have no
patience with the ridiculers. They are disrespectful and don't
deserve my attention.

The article linked above is the best one I've seen since Dr. Ketchum's
press release on Nov 24th.

Will the Sykes/Satori study, which also tested Bigfoot samples and
could be released even before the Ketchum study, be able to support
Ketchum's findings?

I seriously doubt it. Sykes-Satori, as I understand it, are testing
only mitochondrial DNA, which you can get from a hair shaft, and it
is very reliable: not subject to contamination. They are not looking
at nuclear DNA at all. According to Dr. Ketchum, Sasquatch mitochon-
drial DNA shows up as human ... could be why the dozens of tests
done on it in the past were tossed out as, "Nothing to see here."

The Sykes-Satori study isn't about Bigfoot in particular. It's about
cryptid homonids in general: Yeti, Yeren, Orang Pendek, Almas as well.

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OONJERAH

Sunday, December 9, 2012 5:05 AM

Lloyd Pye of "Everything You Know Is Wrong" fame has a brief page
on the cryptid homonids: http://www.lloydpye.com/hominoids.htm

======================

OONJERAH

Sunday, December 9, 2012 10:28 AM

Bigfoot News December 8, 2012, Robert Lindsay
http://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2012/12/08/bigfoot-news-december-8-
2012/

Oonj: How to preface this? It covers several aspects of current Sasquatch
news + some of the candidates for his ancestry. Pretty interesting.

When will Dr. Ketchum's Bigfoot DNA paper be out? Unknown.
The leaked-3rd-hand, peer reviewer's objection to it made 0 sense.

======================
A man's gotta know his limitations. ~Dirty Harry

OONJERAH

Wednesday, December 26, 2012 3:59 AM

George Knapp interviews Dr. Melba Ketchum on Coast to Coast,
Sunday night, Dec 23-24. - Move the timer to 1 hour in.

They discuss her paper on the Bigfoot DNA study.
The paper isn't published yet, but already is controversial.

======================
"All I suggest is a man hears what he wants to hear, and disregards the rest" ~Paul Simon

FLORALBUNNY

Wednesday, December 26, 2012 11:28 PM

I thought Ketchum sounded reasonably sane.
It was late for me. I was sober, a bit sleepy.

bun

OONJERAH

Wednesday, January 16, 2013 11:23 PM

An old friend used to say, "If it walks like a duck, quacks like a
duck and is seen in the company of ducks, it is probably a duck."

Re: Dr. Melba Ketchum's Bigfoot DNA study which proves the exis-
tence of Sasquatch and it's pending publication is almost upon us ...

I'm too tired, used & bruised to go into the details, but --

Since late November when Igor Burtsev mistakenly leaked on Facebook
Dr. Ketchum's intended press release, forcing her to make the actual
press release by way of clarification ...

Most of what's been coming out of the Ketchum camp is good or bad
carnival, depending on your taste in entertainment. To me, it's in
bad taste and offensive.

The latest is that some sweet young thing with a sweet handle put
out a petition calling for federal protection of Bigfoot. So when
that was also excused as an error in timing, "but please do sign it
anyway," I sorta gagged on my cookies.

I really want to believe that the woman did an actual DNA study on
Bigfoot tissues, has a 50-page report written by herself and other
experts; it's about to be published ... but I'm not able to believe
it now, today.

Dr. Ketchum is walkin' like a duck.

======================
"All I suggest is Oonjerah hears what she wants to hear, and disregards the rest"

OONJERAH

Thursday, February 14, 2013 6:39 AM

Walkin' Like A Scientist Yet? Not quite to my likes.

Most would agree that the discovery of a Sasquatch, dead or alive,
would be an epic discovery for anthropology.

Last week of November, I said that a DNA study proving the existence
of Bigfoot was about to be published; the head of the study and primary
author is Dr. Melba Ketchum.

Today,Dr. Ketchum self-published that study. Costs $30 to download
and read. Well worth it if it's a true & fine paper that will prove the
elusive 'Squatch.
http://www.denovojournal.com/#!special-issue/crrc

Everything about the publication seems odd. Early reviews are bad.
"It's a mess." ... Well, yeah! But is it a hoax?
I don't know that any actual genetics expert has reviewed it yet.

As for the "truly amazing" video that comes with the report (pay extra?
I dunno) ... like so many Bf films, we're looking in thru the bushes and
we see ... a shag rug that breathes. Wow!

======================
Update: 13 Nov 2017
Dr. Ketchum Is a hoax, & BF is half lemur?
Melba Ketchum: Bigfoot is part human and part lemur. She
says it on YouTube. I've not got the link to work, though.

HolyCredibilityTilt!! The woman claims to be a veterinarian,
& I know more about high school biology than she does!

OONJERAH

Wednesday, October 9, 2013 8:29 AM

The Real Deal:

Genetics professor investigates the Yeti
http://thebookseller.com/news/yeti-title-genetics-professor.html

"in the provisionally titled "The Quest for the Yeti, A DNA
Detective Story" ... Bryan Sykes, professor of genetics at
Oxford University, is to investigate whether there are genetic
traces of species including the Yeti."
...
The Quest for the Yeti will describe Sykes' hunt for genetic
traces of species whose existence remains scientifically
unconfirmed, including the Yeti, the Sasquatch and Big Foot.

For the most part the samples he has tracked down for analysis
have turned out to be known species such as bears, raccoons or
cows; however two samples taken towards the end of his quest
will "change our understanding of human history," he says.

Towards the end of his quest, BTW, he spent about a week in
the Pacific NW visiting a well-known "Footers."

=============================:>

OONJERAH

Wednesday, October 16, 2013 8:17 AM

18-foot-long oarfish carcass discovered! Now, what do they do with it?
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-18foot-oar-fish-found-cata
lina-island-20131015,0,5192122.story

"The discovery of an 18-foot oarfish off Catalina Island thrilled the
staff at Catalina Island Marine Institute. Now they’re wondering: What
do you do with the carcass of a very rare 18-foot-long fish?

"Jeff Chace, program director of the institute, said it took about 15
people on Sunday to lug the serpent-like "leviathan" onto shore after
it was discovered dead in about 20 feet of water.

"It just amazed me," he said. .....

"This is a once-in-a-lifetime discovery," Chace said."

======================
Not just another fish story.

OONJERAH

Wednesday, October 16, 2013 2:59 PM

17 Animals that Scientists want to bring back from Extinction

OONJERAH

Thursday, November 7, 2013 7:44 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Penguin:
Quote:
Originally posted by FloralBunny:
I love hummingbird moths!

We always called them "Sphinx moths".

Do penguins count as Cryptid??

King of the Mythical Land that is Iowa

Yes!! Penguin counts as a cryptid.

He hasn't been seen in here since the last week of June.
Is it up to Little Me to track him down?
.
.

Come Back, Pengy!!

======================
A man's gotta know his bird tracks.

OONJERAH

Tuesday, February 18, 2014 12:31 PM

The Spanish 'wolf man' who survived 12 years in the wild:
Modern Mowgli: Marcos Rodriguez Pantoja, raised by wolves from age 7 to 19.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcos_Rodr%C3%ADguez_Pantoja

Yes, he's on YouTube, but nearly all the posts are in Spanish.
There is also a full length movie in Spanish.

===========
10 Feral Human Children Raised by Animals
http://www.smashinglists.com/10-feral-human-children-raised-by-animals/

OONJERAH

Tuesday, February 18, 2014 12:36 PM

Cryp'tid: In cryptozoology and sometimes in cryptobotany,
a cryptid is a creature or plant whose existence has been
suggested but is not recognized by scientific consensus.
Bernard Heuvelmans (1916-2001), a Belgian-French scientist,
explorer, & writer is said to be "the father of cryptozoology."

The thylacine, tho it may be extinct or not, believed to be
wiped out by humans, I do not consider a cryptid, because it
has a record in botany. In any case, it may be resurrecting
itself.

The Mokèlé-mbèmbé, otoh, a smallish dinosaur living in the
Congo River basin, is a cryptid until a person with really
good credentials & a really good camera gets its picture &
returns to civilization with it. When asked to select the
creature closest to it in a picture book, the locals mostly
pick a rhinoceros. So alternate theory is that mokele-mbembe
is a forest-dwelling, water-loving, pygmy rhino. Evenso, it
is a cryptid, 'cause it's not in the botany books.

A dwarf Diplodocus or a Brontosaurus, surviving relic of
a prehistoric mega-dino, would be a cryptid because it is
a) not documented, b) too incredible, & c) too much fun
to contemplate.

====================== :>
All I suggest is a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest. ~Paul Simon

OONJERAH

Saturday, January 16, 2016 11:48 AM

the Sykes/Satori study:

OK. "The Nature of the Beast" by Bryan Sykes, professor of
human genetics at Oxford. I've not yet finished the book --
slow reader me. But I agree with someone else who read it,
"Dr. Sykes has an engaging style of writing."
and he likes to sell books.

The Almasty, 3 chapters: 7. The Russian Almasty, 26. The Russians,
& 29. Zana.

We know Zana existed, pretty sure she was an almasty.

... oooOO}{OOooo ...

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Sunday, September 18, 2016 12:05 AM

New picks of Nessie:

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/could-this-be-the-clearest-image-of-the-loch
-ness-184513690.html

hmmm. I had thought I had posted in this thread before, but now cannot find a post by me.

THGRRI

Tuesday, September 20, 2016 2:27 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Oonjerah:
The Real Deal:

Genetics professor investigates the Yeti
http://thebookseller.com/news/yeti-title-genetics-professor.html

"in the provisionally titled "The Quest for the Yeti, A DNA
Detective Story" ... Bryan Sykes, professor of genetics at
Oxford University, is to investigate whether there are genetic
traces of species including the Yeti."
...
The Quest for the Yeti will describe Sykes' hunt for genetic
traces of species whose existence remains scientifically
unconfirmed, including the Yeti, the Sasquatch and Big Foot.

For the most part the samples he has tracked down for analysis
have turned out to be known species such as bears, raccoons or
cows; however two samples taken towards the end of his quest
will "change our understanding of human history," he says.

Towards the end of his quest, BTW, he spent about a week in
the Pacific NW visiting a well-known "Footers."

=============================:>

Three years later and nothing on a topic that has been lingering for a very long time. Not a good sign for believers I spec.

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Russia trolls get contract extension
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JEWELSTAITEFAN

Tuesday, September 20, 2016 6:05 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:
Originally posted by Oonjerah:
The Real Deal:

Genetics professor investigates the Yeti
http://thebookseller.com/news/yeti-title-genetics-professor.html

"in the provisionally titled "The Quest for the Yeti, A DNA
Detective Story" ... Bryan Sykes, professor of genetics at
Oxford University, is to investigate whether there are genetic
traces of species including the Yeti."
...
The Quest for the Yeti will describe Sykes' hunt for genetic
traces of species whose existence remains scientifically
unconfirmed, including the Yeti, the Sasquatch and Big Foot.

For the most part the samples he has tracked down for analysis
have turned out to be known species such as bears, raccoons or
cows; however two samples taken towards the end of his quest
will "change our understanding of human history," he says.

Towards the end of his quest, BTW, he spent about a week in
the Pacific NW visiting a well-known "Footers."

=============================:>

Three years later and nothing on a topic that has been lingering for a very long time. Not a good sign for believers I spec.

For hundreds of years humans believed Earth was flat. Should science stop looking, observing, investigating?

WISHIMAY

Friday, December 30, 2016 5:11 AM

bump

OONJERAH

Friday, February 10, 2017 2:34 PM

Nessie would be fascinating if it were an aquatic dinosaur kinda critter.
I don't give him much credence because, his turf, Loch Ness is too small for a breeding population of them. If such a population existed, say 50, minimum 30 beasties, they'd be seen every day, and no mystery.

If you look at North America from space when it's night down here, just seeing all the lights ... it's immediately obvious that we humans occupy less than 10% of North America. It is mostly a vast wilderness.

Bigfoot is interesting for a few reasons.
Clearly it's homo, not an ape. That's obvious from Patty's face.

Knowing they exist, & trying to figure out why there's no proof yet, that's maddening.

Also ... many more cryptids are reported than Bigfoot & Nessie.

... oooOO}{OOooo ...

I've given up looking for the meaning of life. Now all I want is a cookie.
I mean a good cookie ... not the super market garm they're selling now.

OONJERAH

Tuesday, April 4, 2017 8:36 AM

Tasmanian Tiger* May Still Exist: Here Are Some Supposedly Extinct
Animals Found Alive -

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/203828/20170403/tasmanian-tiger-may-
still-exist-here-are-some-supposedly-extinct-animals-found-alive.htm#sthash.ddkKnAhU.dpuf

*Also known as Thylacine

... oooOO}{OOooo ...

I've given up looking for the meaning of life. Now all I want is a cookie.

DREAMTROVE

Wednesday, April 5, 2017 9:18 AM

First "movie" I saw was a documentary on bigfoot, which was an assignment for school. I was six and it was very scary. I wasn't allowed to see another movie until everyone went to the theater for the opening night of Star Wars. I wasn't allowed to go, but then everyone was talking about it, so my mom changed her mind and I went back on the second night.

The biggest problem I had with bigfoot as a kid though was why wouldn't there be more of them? The same thing is true of mythical monsters in general. Another issue that has spring up is that it's very difficult to be a stealthy apex predator. Watching people on facebook freak out about a sturgeon reminds me that the vast majority of the public is really quite ignorant, and that was almost certainly true when these legends were born. Something on the order of Loch Ness could exist as a vegetarian, a member of some other species, or some very long lived creature, but hard to say.

Meanwhile, real creatures are getting much creepier:

http://gizmodo.com/this-deep-sea-monster-attaches-its-head-to-its-neck
-in-1791896830

Huh, related: blue polar dot on Saturn:
http://gizmodo.com/oh-my-god-look-at-saturns-north-pole-1793887193

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Thursday, April 6, 2017 6:45 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
Think my first exposure to the subject was either Sasquatch stories or Nessie.

Personally I find Nessie more interesting than Bigfoot.

I thought Scooby Doo tracked down all of the Yeti, Bigfoot, Loch Ness, Abominable Snowman, and mythical Honest Democrats back when I was a kid.
Who knew?

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Friday, April 7, 2017 5:45 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
Think my first exposure to the subject was either Sasquatch stories or Nessie.

Personally I find Nessie more interesting than Bigfoot.

I thought Scooby Doo tracked down all of the Yeti, Bigfoot, Loch Ness, Abominable Snowman, and mythical Honest Democrats back when I was a kid.
Who knew?

JSF, I grew up and live in British Columbia. There are countless stories of Bigfoot or Sasquatch here. First Nations people believe in them.

Also there is Lake Okanagan which is in the Okanagan and supposedly has a creature in it. It is called Ogopogo. Think of a North American version of Nessie.

Brenda, this particular post of mine was tongue-in-cheek.
I'm fair certain this thread has many of my honest posts in it.
Have you heard of the giant race(s) found buried in North America?
Do the First Nations consider Bigfoot to be human, another race, or what?

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Sunday, May 14, 2017 3:11 AM

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/massive-creature-washes-indonesia-apos-04565
8264.html

This might be real.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Sunday, May 14, 2017 11:51 PM

I got that they have not yet determined. Have you seen recently the pre-historic dog dinosaur they found in Montana? They thought it was part of another critter, but eventually figured it out. About 20,000 pounds I think.

WISHIMAY

Monday, May 15, 2017 1:56 AM

I agree with the commenters, it has remnants of a baleen filter and a backbone, itsa whale. Really badly disintegrated...

This is an interesting article, the thing about Argonaut Octopi having heat seeking moisture missiles is pretty disturbing

And they only live less than five years, so no giant octopussys

http://news.softpedia.com/news/13-Things-You-Did-Not-Know-About-Octopu
ses-68305.shtml

1. The first octopuses evolved towards the end of the Cretaceous (the last dinosaur era). They were very small (8 cm long). Today there are 289 species of octopuses, forming about one third of the all cephalopod species.

2.The world's largest octopus is the North Pacific Giant Octopus (Octopus dofleini): on average 3 m (10 ft) in length and weighing15 kg (33.3 pounds). Still, in 1957 an individual of almost 10 m (30 ft) and 272 kg (604 pounds) in weight was found on the beaches of the British Columbia (western Canada). The average size is achieved in three years.

3. The males of argonaut octopuses are 2 cm (0.8 inch) long, while the female is huge in comparison, with her maximum 10 cm (4 inch) in length.

4. Octopuses are solitary, territorial agile hunters, feeding mainly on crustaceans (crabs and lobsters) and mollusks (clams, squids, cuttlefish), sometimes fish (including sharks). They can fast up to 6 months. Octopuses turn active at the twilight. During the day they hide in hollows, whose mouth they tap with a stone. They digest their food in 12 hours at a water temperature of 18-19 degrees Celsius. The hard parts of the prey are not swallowed.

Octopuses are preyed on by sperm whales, seals, fish (conger eels, moray eels) and sea birds.

5. Octopuses have mimic ability overcoming that of a chameleon. Hatchlings have 65 chromatophores; at the age of one year, an individual has 1-2 million chromatophores. This are starred pigment cells in the skin, colored in yellow, orange, red, brown or black, and activated through nerves. When contracted, their color disappears, when spreading, their color dominates. Leucophores form white spots on the skin.

Octopuses can mimic not just the color, but also the shape of the environment, imitating, for example, a stone covered by algae, making the approach to their prey and escaping predators easier.

Iridophores are found in the skin; they refract light and give the octopus an iridescent brightness. Adults can show off colors as signs of aggression.

6. The octopus is the most intelligent invertebrate. Its brain is formed by 500 million large neurons (the human brain is made of roughly 100 billion smaller neurons), but their intelligence is comparable with that of the apes. If a cat has to get the reflex of opening a door after having watched the action many times, an octopus can detect the solution by itself, displaying "conceptual thinking". An octopus opens the plug of a bottle to get to the lobster inside. Besides mammals and birds, octopuses are the only animals that play.

Because octopuses are solitary, the offspring do not have a learning process based on direct transmission. The speed of learning is astonishing: an octopus found by itself in about 12 minutes how to get out of a cage. The next time, it escaped from the cage in 90 seconds, proving an unmatched memory. Octopuses have two memories, cerebral (brain) and one connected to their cups. It is known how curious octopuses are to scuba divers, a behavior typical to intelligent animals.

Octopuses live only 3-5 years, so they have limited time for accumulating information. Some researchers say that if octopuses had lived more, they, and not humans, would have been the dominant intelligence on Earth.

7. Octopuses can change body shape to escape traps. An octopus's only solid part is its cartilaginous "skull". So, if a hole allows the passing of the skull, the octopus will escape, quite a problem in aquariums.

8. The octopus's eye is the most sophisticated amongst invertebrates, approaching as structure and function to that of the vertebrates. Still

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Saturday, May 20, 2017 2:50 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
Think my first exposure to the subject was either Sasquatch stories or Nessie.

Personally I find Nessie more interesting than Bigfoot.

I thought Scooby Doo tracked down all of the Yeti, Bigfoot, Loch Ness, Abominable Snowman, and mythical Honest Democrats back when I was a kid.
Who knew?

JSF, I grew up and live in British Columbia. There are countless stories of Bigfoot or Sasquatch here. First Nations people believe in them.

Also there is Lake Okanagan which is in the Okanagan and supposedly has a creature in it. It is called Ogopogo. Think of a North American version of Nessie.

Brenda, this particular post of mine was tongue-in-cheek.
I'm fair certain this thread has many of my honest posts in it.
Have you heard of the giant race(s) found buried in North America?
Do the First Nations consider Bigfoot to be human, another race, or what?

Sorry JSF. I thought maybe it was tongue in cheek.

I have heard one such "story" about giants in NA. I heard that when I was child. So memory not too good on it.

First Nations with stories of Sasquatch range from Alaska, Yukon through BC and down into the Pacific Northwest, Oregon and California. It's not considered human and depending on which tribe you are talking to, the creature is either harmless or dangerous. Just depends on the tribe. I gather that most consider it a legend.

But the story I added about Ogopogo is another such as I said "Nessie" like creature.

Further info about giants:
http://www.truelegendstheseries.com/portfolio-post/true-legends-episod
e-3-holocaust-of-giants/
I believe this is a 3-volume set on the giants, not sure if this is the 2nd or 3rd part. All non-fiction.

http://www.bbsradio.com/cgi-bin/webbbs/webbbs_config.pl?md=read;id=311
28

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/article/trailer-holocaust-of-the-giants/

Hope that helps.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Monday, May 22, 2017 1:38 AM

I had forgotten that we just passed the 50th Anniversary of the Patterson-Gimlin Bigfoot video.

OONJERAH

Wednesday, November 15, 2017 11:52 PM

Yes, Patty, the Patterson-Gimlin film is 50 years old now. And Bob Gimlin
is still in demand as a speaker.

In 50 years, 100s of folks have claimed they saw bigfoot. So how come
Patty is still the only clear picture we have of one?
... Maybe because Roger Patterson was using a movie camera;
most folks lately are using their cell phone camera.

The BFRO (Bigfoot Field Researchers Organization) collects sighting reports
and keeps them an an accessible data base. http://www.bfro.net/gdb/
We can read the stories they have collected.

If I ever see a Bigfoot, I'll be scared and avoid it.

... oooOO}{OOooo ...

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Thursday, November 16, 2017 12:34 AM

Are you in a location more suited to Bigfoot?

THGRRI

Thursday, November 16, 2017 12:51 AM

Does extraterrestrial life count? Not that I believe any have visited here to date, but because I do believe life other than on our planet does exist.

OONJERAH

Thursday, November 16, 2017 5:38 AM

Quote JSF: "Are you in a location more suited to Bigfoot?"

Yes, pretty much: El Dorado gold discovery county, western foothills of
the Sierras about 60 mi west of Lake Tahoe. Bigfoot could walk thru this
neighborhood at night, reeking, & only the dogs would notice.
We should have Bigfoot sightings, but afaik, few have been reported.

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Does extraterrestrial life count? Not that I believe
any have visited here to date, but because I do believe life other than
on our planet does exist.

I agree. The universe is huge. There must be other life in it. So ETs
would be good here.

And as soon as I get a coherent post composed, I'd like to discuss the Mound
Builders. JSF, you're calling them Giants? They were about twice our height
& lived in mounds. These were famously built all over our great Midwest ...
has the government been removing them? This race was not limited to the
Midwest or even to the Americas.

... oooOO}{OOooo ...

OONJERAH

Thursday, November 16, 2017 7:21 AM

http://www.baltimoreorless.com/2009/06/susquehannock-indians-giant-med
allions-and-pimp-sticks/

“In Captain John Smith’s map of 1606 is a picture of a Susquehannock warrior, with this curious description: ‘They seemed like giants to the English. Their language sounds like a voice in a vault. …One had a wolf’s head hanging in a chain for a jewel. His tobacco pipe three-fourths of a yard long prettily carved with a bird or a deer at great end, sufficient to beat out one’s brains. The calf of the chief’s leg was three fourths of a yard about, and all his limbs so proportionate, that he seemed the goodliest man we ever beheld. His hair on the one side was long, and the other shorne close like a coxe’s comb. His arrows were five-fourths long, headed with the splinters of a white chrystal stone, like a heart an inch broad and one and one-half inches long; these he wore in a wolf’s skin at his back for a quiver.'” —Maryland Historical Magazine

... oooOO}{OOooo ...

OONJERAH

Monday, November 27, 2017 9:19 AM

I like this:

Cliff Barackman on His Ongoing Quest to Track Down Bigfoot
http://www.newsweek.com/bigfoot-sasquatch-legend-myth-403946

... oooOO}{OOooo ...

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Monday, April 1, 2024 2:28 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Oonjerah:
Quote JSF: "Are you in a location more suited to Bigfoot?"

Yes, pretty much: El Dorado gold discovery county, western foothills of
the Sierras about 60 mi west of Lake Tahoe. Bigfoot could walk thru this
neighborhood at night, reeking, & only the dogs would notice.
We should have Bigfoot sightings, but afaik, few have been reported.

And as soon as I get a coherent post composed, I'd like to discuss the Mound
Builders. JSF, you're calling them Giants? They were about twice our height
& lived in mounds. These were famously built all over our great Midwest ...
has the government been removing them? This race was not limited to the
Midwest or even to the Americas.

... oooOO}{OOooo ...

OK, so are folks familiar with the Book of Enoch, Book of Jubilees? These are about giants, included in many religious tomes, but excluded from The Bible.
The Nefilim, Naphelim, Elioud, Nephilim..
The Greek Syncellus, The Book of Giants.
Found among The Dead Sea Scrolls, preserved by the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church, and Beta Israel. Included in Sir Walter Raleigh's History Of The World, which he wrote while locked in The Tower of London (1592-1614).
Apparently these giants were located all around the world, and histories of many religions include them.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Friday, May 31, 2024 6:07 AM

I keep forgetting to post about this.
She Squatchers is a group of Sasquatch searchers who are women, unarmed, without dogs, and are apparently successful except for the habit of chickening out as the Sasquatches invite them into their realm.

http://www.shesquatchers.com/

Interesting stuff.

BRENDA

Monday, June 3, 2024 9:11 AM

Bigfoot

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Monday, June 3, 2024 9:24 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
Bigfoot

Have you read about this, or heard about it/them?
Apparently, some or all of these women are of Tribal descent, and they utilized their spirit training and rituals to reach out to the Bigfoots, and also protect themselves from being spiritually consumed.
I would assume you would better understand what they said than I.
There was also mention of old photos of Tribal folk hanging out with their Bigfoot friends, long ago - like decades ago. One location I recall of this was Tennessee.