The vultures in and around Ukraine

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SIGNYM

Sunday, March 22, 2015 9:24 AM

Ukraine and the Rothschild Family

A group of large international investors buy out Ukrainian government’s securities. Franklin Templton is one of them. The investment group snapped up Ukrainian international debt with a face value of almost $5 billion at the end of August, nearly a fifth of the country's outstanding international government bonds.

Franklin Templton has all the makings of a «financial vulture». Until now the sum paid by it for 20% of Ukraine’s national debt remains to be a commercial secret. The vultures purchase the securities with low, almost junk, ratings at low prices to demand full payment from issuer afterwards. Argentina is a good example of vultures’ destructive activities. The country made a deal on restructuring with 95-97% of debt holders but the rest happened to be in the hands of financial vultures that spoiled it all by demanding full payment. The vultures (two US investment funds) started court proceedings to make Argentina default. The country may be mercilessly pillaged in case it complies with the ultimatums of vultures and the ruling of US court.

The story is a warning to Ukraine which has sold its securities to Franklin Templton. According to a recent Bloomberg report, the investment fund acts under US jurisdiction and is controlled by Rothschilds, the family known for its death grip.

Last year I wrote in my article The Financial Situation of Kiev Regime and Prospects for Ukraine’s Default that Ukraine may face the very same default that «will never come» according the assurances provided by Ukraine’s Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk. Some may lose billions, some may acquire unprecedented wealth. As the global experience shows, defaults are seldom impromptu. Normally they are planned. Sometimes the preparations may last for a few years. Ukraine is not an exclusion. It will default on its debts. The time will be defined by sponsors and modest beneficiaries of such organizations as Franklin Thompson. At the moment of writing the article I did not know their names. Now they have come into the open. It’s a sign that the drama is nearing its denouement.

The Rothschilds family has come up with an initiative to create a group of Ukrainian bonds holders to shape a common policy on debt settlement. Rothschild & Cie Banque, a French bank belonging to Rothschild Group, offered its service in the capacity of «go-between» in the talks of Ukraine’s Ministry of Finances and creditors on restructuring the debt. Now creditors are waiting for Kiev to put forward the proposals in mid-March, according to Giovanni Salvetti, Co-head of Russia and CIS at Rothschild Inc., who handles central and Eastern Europe and the Commonwealth of Independent States. Salvetti said there were two opinions among creditors about setting up the committee: those who want to wait and see what the government will say and those who want to set «some hard lines for the potential restructuring, like saying we’re looking for a proposal but be aware that we are not ready to accept X, Y, Z.»

The Bloomberg’s information is not detailed but it allows to make the following conclusions: first, the default of Ukraine is inevitable and the credit holders are aware of this fact, second, the default will be accompanied by restructuring on tough terms unfavorable for Ukraine.

One detail strikes an eye – the leak on the coming default and debt restructuring coincided with the announcement made by the International Monetary Fund that on March 11 it signed off on an USD17.5 billion loan for cash-strapped Ukraine to keep its economy afloat. The IMF loan is spread over four years within the framework of stabilization program. The coincidence may be interpreted in different ways.

Version one. There is no coordination between the International Monetary Fund and the Rothschild group; they vie for the control over the Ukraine’s economy.

Version two. It’s not a «genuine» decision» of the International Monetary Fund but rather a PR-action taken to prevent th

GEEZER

Sunday, March 22, 2015 9:38 AM

Oooh.

Provide cites for any of this anti-Semitic propaganda from a source that has no background except their website. Even Wikipedia has no information on Strategic Culture. Lookin' like another Russian maskirovka operation.

"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."

1KIKI

Sunday, March 22, 2015 9:43 AM

http://www.economist.com/news/finance-and-economics/21635015-controver
sial-strategy-bargain-hunting-bond-trader-where-others-fear
Since 2010, (Michael Hasenstab who manages $190 billion of government debt for Franklin Templeton) has been investing enthusiastically in Ukrainian government debt, and now owns $8.8 billion of the country’s $16 billion of international bonds

http://financial-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Vulture+Fund
Vulture Fund
Also found in: Wikipedia.
Vulture fund
A fund that buys distressed debt of commercial companies or sovereign nations at a cheap price and then often sues them for the entire value of the debt. The resemblance to vultures is because these funds profit from the debt of failing companies or poor nations.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/11/07/us-argentina-debt-lawsuit-id
USKBN0IR25220141107
The creditors in more than 100 lawsuits are seeking the same injunctive relief that U.S. District Judge Thomas Griesa granted to U.S. hedge funds that spurned Argentina's debt restructurings in 2005 and 2010, and then sued for full repayment of $1.33 billion plus interest.
Argentina defaulted in July after refusing to honor Griesa's orders that it pay the holdout hedge funds, led by NML Capital and Aurelius Capital Management ...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-03-16/franklin-templeton-s
aid-to-hire-blackstone-for-ukraine-talks
... the Financial Times reported Franklin Templeton won’t accept a cut to its $7 billion bondholdings, citing people it didn’t identify ...

SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

1KIKI

Sunday, March 22, 2015 9:56 AM

I hope you're satisfied. Because you ceded your right to object to any links I post here, when you failed to list your criteria for 'objective evidence' and deferred to Signy's instead:

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=59569&p=2

Q - What would YOU takes as 'objective evidence'?

A - I'll take the same evidence SignyM seems to ask for any time someone posts anything critical of Russia. Ask her what level of proof she demands.

So, YOU have no opinion? I don't want to be posting links and have you objecting to them with some new-found judgments. Speak now or forever void your option to dismiss my links.

SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

SIGNYM

Sunday, March 22, 2015 12:49 PM

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Originally posted by Geezer:
Oooh.

Provide cites for any of this anti-Semitic propaganda from a source that has no background except their website. Even Wikipedia has no information on Strategic Culture. Lookin' like another Russian maskirovka operation.

Hmmm... let's see, what's in the article that isn't true?

Did Franklin Templeton invest - and lose- a metric crap-ton of money in Ukraine?

Well, according to Business Insider Jan 12 2015-

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Michael Hasenstab at Franklin Templeton might not be the bond king, but he has a decent claim to the throne. His fund regularly outperforms markets and his peers. But he is probably not feeling so princely about his bet on Ukraine anymore ... According to The Economist, Hasenstab owns about half [The article I posted only claims a 20% ownership] of Ukraine's international bonds. He is the country's biggest private creditor.

http://www.businessinsider.com/michael-hasenstab-franklin-templeton-uk
raine-bond-losses-2015-1#ixzz3V5plxwwn

Is Argentina subject to vulture capital? Well, according to Bloomberg ...

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talks in Manhattan broke down between Argentina and some of its creditors, the most important a group of hedge funds led by billionaire Paul Singer. On July 30, when a last-ditch workaround failed and the deadline for interest payments of $539 million passed, Argentina went into default for the second time in 13 years.

How does a New Yorker help tip over the second-largest economy in South America a few weeks before his 70th birthday? By being stubborn, self-righteous, clever, and willing to take his decade-long fight against the country to a Las Vegas court, a Ghanaian seaport, weapons warehouses in Maryland, and at least two rocket launches.

http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/articles/2014-08-07/argentinas-vulture-pau
l-singer-is-wall-street-freedom-fighter

Is ROTHSCHILD gathering together holders of Ukrainian bond??? Well, according to Reuters march 5, 2015

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Rothschild looks to organize Ukraine bondholders ahead of talks
- Boutique investment firm Rothschild has invited investors to organize into a Ukraine creditor group ahead of a sovereign debt restructuring, sources directly familiar with the situation told Reuters.

Ukraine's eastern half, where much of its industry is based, is where government forces are battling pro-Russian separatists, putting the nation at risk of bankruptcy.

Last month, International Monetary Fund chief Christine Lagarde said Ukraine would receive about $40 billion in total funding over the next four years, nearly half from the IMF. Ukraine's finance ministry has said the package would include up to $15 billion from debt talks with creditors, which are expected to start next month.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/05/us-ukraine-debt-rothschild-i
dUSKBN0M12L620150305

Is Cie Banque part of Rothschild?

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Rothschild & Cie Banque is a French bank and belongs to Rothschild Group. It provides investment banking, asset management, and wealth management services in France.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_%26_Cie_Banque

Are investment banks and oil companies... specifically Royal Dutch Shell and Rothschilds ... joined at the hip? Well, according to Global Research, not only did they share early funding ...

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In 1927 Royal Dutch Petroleum discovered oil at Seria off the coast of Brunei, whose Sultan would become the world’s richest man as a result of his loyalty to Royal Dutch. The Dutch and British monarchs who control Royal Dutch merged their company with the Oppenheimer and Samuel’s Shell Oil and Nobel and Rothschild’s Far East Trading and Royal Dutch/Shell was born. Queen Beatrix of the Dutch House of Orange and Lord Victor Rothschild are its two largest shareholders.

but have continuing

SIGNYM

Sunday, March 22, 2015 1:25 PM

MORE VULTURES: HILLARY CLINTON
Edited for brevity and clarity, but you can find the original at the link below

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When I first came across the title to this article, I didn’t think much of it. In fact, I almost didn’t even click the link thinking it was just a repeat of a prior expose ...

Fortunately, I did decide to take a look and pretty soon my jaw absolutely hit the floor. Although the Wall Street Journal didn’t play up the connection, I was stunned to see that of all the oligarchs connected to foreign governments who donated to the Clinton Foundation while she was Secretary of State, Ukraine was at the very top. [England was second, Saudi Arabia was third. Well, we know which way SHE'LL swing if she becomes Prez. Personally, I rather vote for Rand Paul than her! -SIGNY]

Between 2009 and 2013, including when Mrs. Clinton was secretary of state, the Clinton Foundation received at least $8.6 million from the Victor Pinchuk Foundation, according to that foundation, which is based in Kiev, Ukraine. It was created by Mr. Pinchuk, whose fortune stems from a pipe-making company. He served two terms as an elected member of the Ukrainian Parliament and is a proponent of closer ties between Ukraine and the European Union.

In 2008, Mr. Pinchuk made a five-year, $29 million commitment to the Clinton Global Initiative, a wing of the foundation that coordinates charitable projects and funding for them but doesn’t handle the money. The pledge was to fund a program to train future Ukrainian leaders and professionals “to modernize Ukraine,” according to the Clinton Foundation...

The Pinchuk foundation said ... that if Mr. Pinchuk was lobbying the State Department about Ukraine, “this cannot be seen as anything but a good thing.”

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-21/clinton-foundation%E2%80%99s-
deep-financial-ties-ukrainian-oligarch-who-pushed-closer-ties-e

Who says you can't buy foreign policy?

Hey! I wonder if some of Victoria Nuland's $5B got recycled into Hillary's pocket??

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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

THGRRI

Sunday, March 22, 2015 8:21 PM

Bullshit propaganda Sig and nothing more. All one has to do is look at the other headlines and false claims to see what your sources' are about.

"Zero Hedge is a financial blog that aggregates news and presents editorial opinions from original and outside sources. It has been described as offering a "deeply conspiratorial, anti-establishment and pessimistic view of the world".

Strategic planning is an organization's process of defining its strategy, or direction, and making decisions on allocating its resources to pursue this strategy. It may also extend to control mechanisms for guiding the implementation of the strategy. Strategic planning became prominent in corporations during the 1960s and remains an important aspect of strategic management.

Your link has just hijacked the term for it's paper and goes to a propaganda machine. What they do is collect information and twist it so they may spread their ideas of conspiracy.

You spend hours cutting, pasting and spreading the lies of those who wish to influence others to think as they do. It is satisfying to witness with all your efforts not one person has been converted. It is a testament to their intelligence and a beacon shining a light onto your ignorance.

1KIKI

Sunday, March 22, 2015 10:46 PM

Originally posted by 1kiki:
So you REALLY DON'T CARE if the vast majority of people live short miserable lives while very few are astronomically wealthy and powerful, or if instead the vast majority have decent lives to look forward to. Well, now we know what you stand for.

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Your (sic) a fucking moron: who gives a shit?

SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

SIGNYM

Monday, March 23, 2015 12:50 AM

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Bullshit propaganda Sig and nothing more. All one has to do is look at the other headlines and false clams to see what your sources' are about.

So now everything is "false reporting" except the MSM?

I find very little false reporting on Zerohedge. They get their news and their facts fast and straight. In this particular instance they were quoting the Wall Street Journal- a source I think even YOU would find reputable. Altho (as I have said before many times) their interpretations are a little cataclysmic.

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"Zero Hedge is a financial blog that aggregates news

A news aggregator.

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Strategic planning is an organization's process of defining its strategy, or direction, and making decisions on allocating its resources to pursue this strategy. It may also extend to control mechanisms for guiding the implementation of the strategy. Strategic planning became prominent in corporations during the 1960s and remains an important aspect of strategic management.

Your link ...

Which one? Bloomberg? Business Insider?

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You spend hours cutting, pasting and spreading the lies ...

From Reuters? WSJ? You must really love Hillary.

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of those who wish to influence others to think as they do. It is satisfying to witness with all your efforts not one person has learned anything. It is a testament to their willful ignorance and their love of bacon

Fixed it for you.

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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

THGRRI

Monday, March 23, 2015 8:45 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
So you REALLY DON'T CARE if the vast majority of people live short miserable lives while very few are astronomically wealthy and powerful, or if instead the vast majority have decent lives to look forward to. Well, now we know what you stand for.

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Your (sic) a fucking moron: who gives a shit?

I see you are still lying about what people post or why. No matter, everyone here has experienced that with you. As a matter of fact, I can't remember the last time anyone had anything to say to you other than you are full of shit. Consider it said again.

1KIKI

Monday, March 23, 2015 8:46 AM

Originally posted by 1kiki:
So you REALLY DON'T CARE if the vast majority of people live short miserable lives while very few are astronomically wealthy and powerful, or if instead the vast majority have decent lives to look forward to. Well, now we know what you stand for.

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Your (sic) a fucking moron: who gives a shit?

SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

SIGNYM

Monday, March 23, 2015 11:33 PM

Squabbling over the barely breathing carcass of the Ukrainian economy, vulture oligarchs pick it apart, one bloody bit at a time: Kolomoysky attempts to grab Ukraine's oil industry, UkrNafta, by taking control of headquarters in Kiev. Kolomoysky is the third-richest man in Ukraine, has triple citizenship in Ukraine, Israel, and Cyprus, and runs his empire from Switzerland. It was his natgas firm, Burisma, that offered a seat on the Board to Hunter Biden (Joe Biden's son).

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Kolomyski has used Privat's "quasi-military forces" to enforce hostile takeovers of companies, sending a team of "hired rowdies armed with baseball bats, iron bars, gas and rubber bullet pistols and chainsaws" to forcibly take over a Kremenchuk steel plant in 2006,[25] and has used "a mix of phony court orders (often involving corrupt judges and/or registrars) and strong-arm tactics" to replace directors on the boards of companies he purchases stakes in.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ihor_Kolomoyskyi

Devin Ackles: Kolomoisky should be punished over his UkrNafta power play

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Late last night, March 20, the governor of the Dnipropetrovsk oblast, Ihor Kolomoisky, dispatched a group of masked men in military fatigues with bulletproof vests and black bags that, by all appearances, may have held weapons to the headquarters of oil pipeline operator UkrTransNafta in Kyiv and blockaded themselves inside for several hours.

Kolomoisky later justified his actions in a highly offensive interview to several journalists outside of UkrTransNafta’s headquarters, a state-owned company that produces a majority of Ukraine’s oil and a large share of its gas, by saying he was protecting the state enterprise from “Russian saboteurs.”

The interview conducted by Radio Svoboda has already sent Ukrainian media into a frenzy.

In the video, after being asked what the governor of the Dnipropetrovsk Oblast was doing there that late at night, Kolomoisky launched into a tirade of vulgar language, ad hominem attacks and insults against the interviewer and even member of parliament Serhiy Leshchenko (a former investigative journalist who has a long history with Kolomoisky).

Dnipropetrovsk Oblast Governor and billionaire Ihor Kolomoisky talks to Radio Svoboda jounrliats [sic] near the office of the Ukrtransnafta late on March 19.

Kolomoisky, who helped found and financially support some of the first volunteer battalions to fight separatist and Russian forces in eastern Ukraine, has enjoyed a high level of popularity among many Ukrainians and supporters of Ukraine for his service to the nation in its time of need.

His role in stopping a separatist republic from popping up in Dnipropetrovsk and throughout other areas of eastern and central Ukraine was no doubt instrumental in keeping the country from descending into further chaos at a time when it looked like Kyiv could lose control over large swathes of territory following the annexation of Crimea.

Yet the governor’s decision to use the threat of armed violence to contest Ukrainian law and the legitimacy of its lawmakers is simply unacceptable and the authorities in Kyiv, and their partners in Washington D.C. and Brussels, must not ignore the threat that his actions pose to Ukraine and the future of its reforms.

The Battle for UkrNafta

Why the sudden concern over UkrTransNafta? On March 19, the Verkhovna Rada passed a new law “On Joint Stock Companies (on the payment of dividends of joint stock companies)” by a large margin of 275 votes (none opposing), a law that received overwhelming support from all of the ruling coalition’s parties.

The law is an important one for reforming the country’s state-owned joint stock companies – companies that the state hold a controlling share of a company’s stocks (more than 50 percent).

In essence, the new law lowers the number of shareholders present needed to have a vote at a shareholders meeting from “not less than 60 percent” to “more than 50 percent.” In other words, 51 percent

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SIGNYM

Monday, March 23, 2015 11:45 PM

HERE is a very detailed article about the banksters, oligarchs and Nazis who made up the post-Maidan government of Kiev. It was written a year ago, I hadn't seen it until now, but is prescient in directing its attention to who will matter in Ukraine in the following year.

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Is the West DIRECTLY Responsible for the Massacres In Ukraine?

Eric Zuesse

The key person behind the May 2nd massacre inside Odessa’s Trade Unions Building appears to have been Ihor Kolomoyskyi

Photo courtesy of Wikipedia

who was appointed to be the regional governor in that area by Yulia Tymoshenko, the Ukrainian Presidential candidate that the Obama Administration has apparently been hoping will win the May 25th election to take over the Ukrainian Government, from the junta that the Obama Administration imposed in Ukraine on February 22nd. Just weeks before this coup, on February 4th, the U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for Europe and Asia, Victoria Nuland, chose Tymoshenko’s ally Arseni Yatsenyuk to head the post-coup interim government, which appointed Kolomoyskyi.

Photo courtesy of the White House

Only a few months before this coup, Nuland had asserted that U.S. taxpayers had already invested more than $5 billion, in order to bring “democracy” to Ukraine, by which she was referring to the U.S. effort to oust the Russian-oriented, democratically elected, leader of Ukraine, President Viktor Yanukovych, who had prosecuted and imprisoned Tymoshenko for embezzlement and abuse of governmental office. Tymoshenko was then on 11 October 2011 sentenced to seven years in prison, and was ordered to pay the government restitution of $188 million. She was released from prison less than three years later, two days after the coup, on 24 February 2014. The Ukrainian criminal code was immediately changed, in order to legalize the actions for which Tymoshenko had been imprisoned. This allowed Tymoshenko to run for the Ukrainian Presidency. She had been Prime Minister 2007-2010. Both she and her husband, Oleksandr Tymoshenko, and his father, all three of whom were on the board of United Energy Systems of Ukraine (and thus Ms. Tymoshenko was called “the gas princess”), have been legally prosecuted as embezzling state funds; but so have most of Ukraine’s oligarchs and political leaders (and there’s a lot of crossover between those two categories).

Kolomoyskyi, who lives in Geneva Switzerland, is generally regarded as the second-richest man in Ukraine, with a fortune estimated at about $6 billion. Tymoshenko used to be called “the Eleven Billion Dollar Woman,” but, like all of Ukraine’s oligarchs (including Kolomoyskyi), nobody really knows precisely how wealthy she is, nor even whether she is more, or perhaps less, wealthy than Kolomoyskyi. Almost all of the oligarchs’ money is hidden offshore; so, is invisible.

Most of Ukraine’s oligarchs live in Geneva (like Kolomoyskyi), London (like the Tymoshenkos’ daughter, Yevhenia), NYC, Rome, and other Western cities, and they tend to stash their money in secret bank accounts in tax-haven countries, not only in order to avoid paying taxes, but also in order to make more difficult their being successfully sued by each other, for violating handshake business deals that had helped them to become so rich. After all, illegal contracts cannot be enforced by any legal government (since they’re illegal, and have secret illegal terms). Thus, other means than written contracts — handshake deals — are resorted to between these aristocrats.

For example, in one such case, a Ukrainian oligarch who lives in London, Victor Pinchuk (whose fortune is around $4 billion), is suing Kolomoyskyi by alleging him to have sold him a company, “KZhRK,” for $143 million, and then to have re-seized it from him by force of arms. As is usual (since virtually all of Ukraine’s oligarchs had become oligarchs from the privatizations, or sell-o

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THGRRI

Tuesday, March 24, 2015 3:45 AM

SIGNYM

Thursday, March 26, 2015 8:43 AM

Yeah, like THOSE guys are in Ukraine! Jeez, you're only about 50 years behind the times!

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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

THGRRI

Thursday, March 26, 2015 9:30 AM

One of them is and he is no better than the other two.

1KIKI

Thursday, March 26, 2015 9:38 AM

Stalin is in Ukraine? I thought he was in the ground.

SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

THGRRI

Thursday, March 26, 2015 6:18 PM

SIGNYM

Friday, March 27, 2015 10:15 PM

As usual, THUGR, what you think and post is so far removed from reality, one can only classify it as "propaganda".

So, in the intermediate struggle for wealth, Poroshenko wins over Kolomoysky. Poroshenko fired Kolomoysky as governor of Dnipropetrovsk, and had a minister jailed, right in the Rada.

So when it comes to negotiating with the bondholders, (which they are doing right now, or will be in a week) represented by Franklin Templeton, Rothschilds & Cie Banque, and the various national bondholders (such as Russia) there will be less confusion on the Ukrainian side of the table as regards to who as what right to sell off which assets and pocket the proceeds.

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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

THGRRI

Friday, March 27, 2015 10:27 PM

Guns and bombs help keep Russia at bay. Do you have enough?????

SIGNYM

Friday, March 27, 2015 10:33 PM

Poroshenko offered Dimitry Yarosh (leader of the Nazi Right Sector/ Pravy Sector party) a job at the Defense Ministry

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“I can confirm that Dmitriy Yarosh received a proposal from the president to take
up a position at the Ministry of Defense. I would be very pleased if Yarosh were to start working as part of the state administration. I’ll say more: I can see that he is very bored at the Rada. Plus he was wounded in battle. I would be most pleased to create, together with Yarosh, a Volunteer Union for the Defense of Ukraine based on the Estonian, Finnish, and Swiss systems,” Gerashchenko added.

So, in the intermediate struggle for wealth, Poroshenko wins over Kolomoysky. Poroshenko fired Kolomoysky as governor of Dnipropetrovsk, and had a minister jailed, right in the Rada.

So when it comes to negotiating with the bondholders, (which they are doing right now, or will be in a week) represented by Franklin Templeton, Rothschilds & Cie Banque, and the various national bondholders (such as Russia) there will be less confusion on the Ukrainian side of the table as regards to who as what right to sell off which assets and pocket the proceeds.
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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

JAYNEZTOWN

Tuesday, January 24, 2023 8:49 AM

'
Russia's military reforms a response to possible NATO expansion, 'hybrid war' in Ukraine: top commander

'

https://montrealgazette.com/news/world/russias-military-reforms-respon
d-to-natos-expansion-ukraine-chief-of-general-staff

SIGNYM

Tuesday, January 24, 2023 11:16 PM

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Ukraine Rocked By Corruption Scandal, Wave Of Top Officials Resign: Sports Cars, Mansions & Luxury Vacations As People Suffered

Tuesday, Jan 24, 2023 - 08:50 AM

The Ukrainian government on Tuesday confirmed the resignation of multiple high ranking officials amid large-scale corruption allegations, in what's being called the biggest mass resignation and graft scandal since the Russian invasion began.

Some dozen officials have quit their posts after a huge political shake-up over allegations and probes into cases ranging from bribery, to mismanagement of aid funds for purchasing food, to embezzlement, to driving expensive cars while common people suffer under wartime conditions.

A top presidential adviser and four deputy ministers - among these two defense officials, along with five regional governors were forced out of their posts.

By who???

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And among the regional governors to step down included officials overseeing regions which have seen intense fighting, including the Zaporizhzhia and Kherson regions, where Russian forces have lately reported gains.

Zelensky to Congress in Dec. visit: aid to Ukraine is an investment in democracy and "not charity". Via Reuters

In reference to the announcement by a senior government official, Oleg Nemchinov, international reports detail the following list:

Deputy Prosecutor General Oleskiy Symonenko

Deputy Minister for Development of Communities and Territories Ivan Lukeryu

Deputy Minister for Development of Communities and Territories Vyacheslav Negoda

Deputy Minister for Social Policy Vitaliy Muzychenk

And the regional governors of Dnipropetrovsk, Zaporizhzhia, Kyiv, Sumy and Kherson

And separately, "the defense ministry had earlier announced the resignation of deputy minister Vyacheslav Shapovalov, who was in charge of the army's logistical support, on the heels of accusations it was signing food contracts at inflated prices."

In this case regarding the food contracts, Shapovalov is accused of signing a deal with an unknown, shady firm. In his role as deputy defense minister, his is the most notable and visible resignation. Crucially he would have had no small part in overseeing the billions of dollars flowing from the pockets of US and European taxpayers as authorized defense aid.

He purchased military rations at inflated prices in what appears a scheme to line the pockets of contractors, and potentially involving kickbacks to himself.

MORE,WITH PUCTURES AND LINKS,AT
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukraine-rocked-corruption-scand
al-wave-top-official-resignations-sports-cars-mansions

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake

JAYNEZTOWN

Sunday, June 16, 2024 10:24 PM

Russian Inflation Rises Once Again in May to 8.3%

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/06/15/russian-inflation-rises-once
-again-in-may-a85420

as for the banker family conspiracy

Oldest male Rothschild giraffe in Europe dies at Wiltshire safari park

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/oldest-male-rothschild-giraffe-europe-130134
111.html

SIGNYM

Sunday, June 16, 2024 11:08 PM

Notice how quickly GEEZER and THUGR dismissed facts with non-factual "RUSSIA!RUSSIA!" propaganda?

The continuing saga of the Kolomoysky/ Poroshenko oligarch war...

So, Petro "Chocolate King" Poroshenko won the first round by becoming President.

Then Kolomoisky bankrolled a TV show called "Servant of the People' starring a mostly unknown Volodomyr Zelensky, as a high school teacher who unintentionally is elected as an anti-corruption President. (Wow. I guess corruption was STILL a major issue in Ukraine!)

Then the now well-known Zelensky is run as an ACTUAL Presidential candidate on a PEACE PLATFORM, and wins.

But, even tho Kolomoisky's guy is President, somehow Kolomoisky winds up in jail on corruption charges. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/04/world/europe/ihor-kolomoisky-arrest
-corruption.html

Now, Poroshenko is angling to replace the currently illegitimate leader Zelensky, whose term ran out in May. (The Constitution does not allow for a non- elected President, even under martial law.)

And the puppet Zelensky thinks he's really in charge (possibly thanks to reputed heavy use of cocaine ... I can't help but think of Hitler in his bunker, high on amphetamines, every time Zelensky makes one of his crazy demands) while rumors of coup drift thru Kiev.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Why SECOND'S posts are brainless: "I clocked how much time: no more than 10 minutes per day. With cut-and-paste (Ctrl C and Ctrl V) and AI, none of this takes much time."
Or, any verification or thought.

THG

Monday, June 17, 2024 3:59 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Yeah, like THOSE guys are in Ukraine! Jeez, you're only about 50 years behind the times!

Look again dummy.

T

THG

Monday, June 17, 2024 4:05 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Notice how quickly GEEZER and THUGR dismissed facts with non-factual "RUSSIA!RUSSIA!" propaganda?

Wrong again comrade. Look how we were right.

T

THG

Monday, June 17, 2024 4:10 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

As usual, THUGR, what you think and post is so far removed from reality, one can only classify it as "propaganda".

Here's some propaganda comrade. Eat this.

T

JAYNEZTOWN

Friday, May 9, 2025 7:24 PM

Russian ruble becomes top-performing currency amid Trump trade war, peace hopes

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/russian-ruble-becomes-top-performing-13
0611673.html

THG

Friday, May 9, 2025 7:47 PM

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Originally posted by THGRRI:

Bullshit propaganda Sig and nothing more. All one has to do is look at the other headlines and false claims to see what your sources' are about.

"Zero Hedge is a financial blog that aggregates news and presents editorial opinions from original and outside sources. It has been described as offering a "deeply conspiratorial, anti-establishment and pessimistic view of the world".

Strategic planning is an organization's process of defining its strategy, or direction, and making decisions on allocating its resources to pursue this strategy. It may also extend to control mechanisms for guiding the implementation of the strategy. Strategic planning became prominent in corporations during the 1960s and remains an important aspect of strategic management.

Your link has just hijacked the term for it's paper and goes to a propaganda machine. What they do is collect information and twist it so they may spread their ideas of conspiracy.

You spend hours cutting, pasting and spreading the lies of those who wish to influence others to think as they do. It is satisfying to witness with all your efforts not one person has been converted. It is a testament to their intelligence and a beacon shining a light onto your ignorance.

T

JAYNEZTOWN

Tuesday, December 30, 2025 4:46 PM

What do we know about Russian accusations that Ukraine attacked Putin residence?

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/what-do-we-know-about-russian-acc
usations-that-ukraine-attacked-putin-residence-2025-12-30/