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July 8, 2024 - Boeing has agreed to plead guilty to one charge of conspiracy to defraud the United States for its role in two fatal 737 Max crashes, the Justice Department said in a court filing Sunday evening.
It represents yet another black eye for the company after a series of embarrassing safety blunders, but the agreement avoids what could have been more serious consequences.
It will pay up to $487 million in fines — a fraction of the $24.8 billion that families of crash victims wanted the aircraft maker to pay. The families of victims of two fatal crashes of the 737 Max oppose the deal, the department said.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/08/business/boeing-doj-criminal-charges/in
dex.html
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Boeing guilty plea in crash case delayed as US Justice Dept finalises deal
The plea agreement will allow Boeing to avoid a criminal trial after the Justice Department determined that the company breached a 2021 deferred-prosecution agreement over two fatal crashes
By Bloomberg | Jul 19 2024 | 8:26 AM IST
https://www.business-standard.com/world-news/boeing-guilty-plea-in-cra
sh-case-delayed-as-us-justice-dept-finalises-deal-124071900077_1.html
US prosecutors said they need more time to finalise an agreement with Boeing Co. in which the planemaker will plead guilty to criminal conspiracy in connection with two fatal crashes of its 737 Max jetliner.
While the parties have made “substantial progress” towards finishing the deal, prosecutors said in a Thursday court filing that next Wednesday is the earliest they will be able to file a final draft. The government had planned to submit the deal to a federal judge in Fort Worth, Texas, this week for approval.
Earlier this month, Boeing agreed in principle to plead guilty to the fraud charge. Under the pact, the company faces additional criminal fines and will install a corporate monitor. It will also be required to spend at least $455 million to bolster its compliance and safety programs over the next three years.
The plea agreement will allow Boeing to avoid a criminal trial after the Justice Department determined that the company breached a 2021 deferred-prosecution agreement over two fatal crashes in 2018 and 2019, which killed a combined 346 people. The DOJ had concluded Boeing failed to meet a requirement of that accord to implement an effective compliance program to prevent and detect violations of US fraud laws.
Families of the crash victims, who fought unsuccessfully to unwind the deferred-prosecution agreement, have filed a notice with the court indicating they plan to object to the terms of the latest deal.
The case is US v. Boeing, 21-cr-005, US District Court, Northern District of Texas (Fort Worth).
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United States v. The Boeing Company
Court Docket No.: 4:21-CR-005-O (N.D. Texas)
Latest Update:
On July 15, 2024, the United States District Court for the Northern District of Texas issued a Scheduling Order for briefing on the plea agreement. Once the Government files the proposed plea agreement, representatives of victims of the crashes of Lion Air Flight 610 and Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302, and anyone else claiming the status of “crime victim” under the Crime Victims’ Rights Act, will have seven days to file any briefs in opposition to the plea agreement. The Government and Boeing will then have fourteen days to file briefs in response. And anyone who filed an initial brief in opposition will thereafter have five days to file briefs in reply.
Currently there is no proceeding scheduled before the United States District Court for the Northern District of Texas. If the district court schedules a proceeding, whether about the proposed plea agreement or otherwise, more information will be provided on this website.
https://www.justice.gov/criminal/criminal-fraud/case/united-states-v-b
oeing-company
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Boeing finalizes plea deal with DOJ over misleading FAA during 737 MAX evaluation
https://www.yahoo.com/news/boeing-finalizes-plea-deal-doj-021700806.ht
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There was a time they hoped they would dominate everywhere, many contracts, with little Shuttles like the X-planes of the ColdWar, X-37 The Boeing Company a different time and a different mindset, X-45 the X-32 the X-20 Dyna-Soar the Boeing X-48 the Bird of Prey division for special projects at Area 51, Aircraft that might one day fly on Mars?
Boeing did it all experimental aircraft, seaplanes, airplanes, rotorcraft, rockets, satellites, and missiles and test projects and commercial flight.
and Boeing also does very unique strange experiment craft that people specualted were part of the photos seen in the UFO community and successful Commercial Space stuff, this discussion could go in the US Airpower thread or 'Space discussion but since it is now falling into the territory of a little bit of a screw-up I might put it here
So what's been going on with the culture at this company? For a while they moved out of Seattle to Chicago in 2001 but now that city dies, in Seattle locally we have seen reports of a rise in drugs and crime in the city the madness spread from California and New York into Seattle, Washington? they planned flying cars next? Boeing acquired autonomous eVTOL air taxi startup Wisk Aero
Starliner astronauts’ eight-day mission stretches towards eighth week
https://www.thetimes.com/world/us-world/article/boeing-starliner-retur
n-date-status-problems-b958t0bc6
NASA Should Ditch the Spin: Americans deserve more transparency about Boeing’s space-debut debacle.
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2024/07/boeing-nasa-starli
ner-astronauts-transparency/679223/
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It's Sounding Like Boeing's Starliner May Have Completely Failed
https://futurism.com/the-byte/signs-boeing-starliner-completely-failed
It looks like NASA officials might be seeing the writing on the wall for the very troubled Boeing Starliner, which has marooned two astronauts up in space for almost two months due to technical issues.
Boeing 737 Max Crash Victims’ Families Object to DOJ Plea Deal
https://www.dallasnews.com/business/airlines/2024/07/31/boeing-737-max
-crash-victims-families-object-to-doj-plea-deal/
That feeling when, late on a Friday, you feel compelled to state that you have confidence in your spacecraft and then have to issue a correction.
https://x.com/jeff_foust/status/1819543200358715800
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Boeing’s new CEO visits factory that makes the 737 Max, including jet that lost door plug in flight
https://www.fox44news.com/news/business-news/ap-boeings-new-ceo-visits
-factory-that-makes-the-737-max-including-jet-that-lost-door-plug-in-flight/
NASA inspector general gives damning assessment of Boeing's quality control
https://www.nbcnews.com/science/space/nasa-report-boeing-damning-asses
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J.D. Vance, Trump Force 2 Make Emergency Landing In Wisconsin: Boeing 737 Issues Reach 2024 Campaign Trail
https://www.benzinga.com/news/24/08/40425735/j-d-vance-trump-force-2-m
ake-emergency-landing-in-wisconsin-boeing-737-issues-reach-2024-campaign-tr
Summary of Boeing Problems
https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2024/08/summary-of-boeing-problems.html
Boeing employees 'humiliated' that upstart rival SpaceX will rescue astronauts stuck in space: 'It's shameful'
https://nypost.com/2024/08/25/us-news/boeing-employees-humiliated-that
-spacex-will-save-astronauts-stuck-in-space/
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Boeing door plug process for 737 Max 9 is "concerning," air safety expert says
https://news.yahoo.com/news/boeing-door-plug-process-737-210300487.htm
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United 737-Max 9 suffered a hydraulic leak and needed an emergency landing
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I don't think its a 737 Max
Jeju Air Flight 2216
Video shows crash of Jeju Air Flight 2216 in South Korea. 181 people on board
https://x.com/BNONews/status/1873174704720425440
South Korean news agency News1, fire officials estimate that more could be dead and warned that casualty numbers may rise as a result of the fire.
on the recent DHL crash, Lithuanian justice ministry, citing police investigations and analysis of the flight recorders, announced that it had found no "unlawful interference" in the crash. Germany's foreign minister Annalena Baerbock stressed that authorities in Germany and Lithuania were currently examining all possibilities.
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SKorea
179 dead, 2 rescued
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Second Jeju Air plane experiences landing gear malfunction, same Boeing model involved
https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/2024-12-30/national/socialAf
fairs/Second-Jeju-Air-plane-experiences-landing-gear-malfunction-same-Boeing-model-involved/2211567
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Quote:So, South Korea airport creates a concrete abutment at the end of their runway, 40 feet long and 5 feet high. So that any plane that hits it will explode in flames.
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
SKorea
179 dead, 2 rescued
Planes are fragile. Lightweight, not tanks. The wings are the fuel tanks, and they flop around and flex with the stresses of wind/lift.
WTF? Airplanes are not Kias or Hyundais, made to be easily stolen.
This sounds like another DEI Hire error.
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Boeing Sued Over Whistleblower’s Death—Family Files Wrongful Death Lawsuit Alleging Harassment Led to Suicide
https://cockpitking.com/boeing-sued-over-whistleblowers-death-family-f
iles-wrongful-death-lawsuit-alleging-harassment-led-to-suicide/
Seattle buy out and then a move to Chicago
not issued a legal rebuttal, but in a statement to the press, the company said it was “saddened” by Barnett’s death and extended “sympathies to his family."
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Air India Flight 171 has crashed into a residential area, 787-8 was carrying 242 passengers and crew
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/2067675/doomed-air-india-171-boei
ng-flight-sent-final-radio-signal-seconds-after-take-off
The aircraft involved is a Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner with registration VT-ANB
https://x.com/flightradar24/status/1933086087682904336
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https://x.com/RJTT_747forever/status/1933092599952457961
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https://x.com/Telegraph/status/1933095524682633388
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https://x.com/vijayaverma750/status/1933103870076395677
India to London Boeing crash
International passenger flight from Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel International Airport in Ahmedabad, India, to London Gatwick Airport
The crash took place in the early afternoon during routine takeoff procedures. Eyewitnesses from the Meghani Nagar area reported hearing multiple explosions, followed by thick plumes of smoke visible from nearby locations, including Dharpur.
also reports of foreigners on flight, 53 British, 7 Portuguese, and 1 Canadian national
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Air India 787 crash is one of the worst accidents in modern aviation history,
British are sending their Investigating Team to Ahmedabad alongside US Team to investigate
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it looks like Jew Israelis are hitting the Boeing 707 now maybe commercial, maybe have an excuse military transport who knows...maybe bunkers and missiles are too difficult to fight, an early American long-range narrow-body airliner for people
...another loss for Boeing but its ok because 'War'
Australia maybe doesn't want to get bombed while flying out on civilian airline, it has announced the closure of its Embassy in Iranian capital of Tehran,
maybe Iranian-Americans or American-Iranians get bombed now, but in a ways maybe others call them 'Goyim' or other names
Air India crash: Demand for emergency exit seats surges, flyers want to book ‘11A’
https://www.livemint.com/news/india/air-india-crash-demand-for-emergen
cy-exit-seats-surges-flyers-want-to-book-11a-after-ahmedabad-tragedy-report-11750359262476.html
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Quote:1) Preliminary report says fuel switches were cut off before Air India Boeing 787 crash
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Air India 787 crash is one of the worst accidents in modern aviation history,
British are sending their Investigating Team to Ahmedabad alongside US Team to investigate
July 11, 2025 5:29 PM ET
https://www.npr.org/2025/07/11/nx-s1-5465063/air-india-boeing-787-cras
h-report
Includes the 15 pages of the report.
2) Engine fuel supply was cut just before Air India jet crash, preliminary report says
By Alexandra Skores, Aaron Cooper and Hira Humayun, CNN
Updated 6:45 PM EDT, Fri July 11, 2025
https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/11/india/air-india-crash-report-intl-latam
Includes a big picture of those fuel cutoff switches.
“In the cockpit voice recording, one of the pilots is heard asking the other why did he cutoff. The other pilot responded that he did not do so,” the report reads.
Shortly after, the switches were reversed back to where they should have been, and the engines were in the process of powering back up when the crash happened.
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Air India crash report raises questions about mental health care for pilots
Jul 15, 2025 6:30 PM EDT
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/air-india-crash-report-raises-questi
ons-about-mental-health-care-for-pilots
I have taken a look back. And going back to 1982, that's the first case I can find, it occurred with the Japan Airlines flight in Tokyo. There have been nine separate occurrences that could be attributed to the flight crew taking some sort of deliberate action, in other words, suicide and homicide.
Now, I am including the missing Malaysian Airliner MH370, and that's a controversial statement there, but most of the thinking right now is that that is what happened there. And that also includes this case in Air India. So nine separate incidents, more than 1,100 people dead throughout all of those incidents. So you couldn't say this is a common thing, but it's not something that is unprecedented either.
It's a rare occurrence, not something that I think people should worry about too terribly, but to the extent that it is very difficult to get at ways to solve it, it's something that the aviation community is grappling with.
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Quote:It took many years, but the real answer is finally known.
Originally posted by SIGNYM: Sunday, March 17, 2019
It will be interesting to see what the final investigation shows, but this is a blow to Boeing.
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The True Story Behind Freefall: A Reckoning for Boeing
By Rory Doherty | Aug 19, 2026 11:19 AM CT
https://time.com/article/2026/08/19/freefall-a-reckoning-for-boeing-do
cumentary/
For Boeing, Lion Air Flight 610 and Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302 live in infamy. The first plane crashed in October 2018 in the Java Sea shortly after taking off, and the second crashed in central Ethiopia only five months later. Both were Boeing 737 Max aircrafts, a newer and more fuel efficient model that had was certified by the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) in 2017. Within two years of first entering into service, every 737 Max had been grounded after the same malfunction led to a combined total of 346 fatalities. Three years later, Netflix released Downfall: The Case Against Boeing, exploring how the company’s obsession with profit and maintaining a competitive edge led the former titan of aviation safety to the point of endangering anyone who flew their newest aircraft model—as well as Boeing’s efforts to deny their own complicity.
That was in 2022. This year, Freefall: A Reckoning for Boeing takes a wider look at Boeing’s continued reputation. “When we finished that film, Boeing ultimately had taken responsibility,” says Rory Kennedy, director of both documentaries. Speaking to TIME over Zoom, she says the company “assured the flying public, as well as the airlines and Congress, that it had learned its lesson and changed its ways. It did seem initially that it had made some corrections, but soon after the 737 Max got [back] into the air, I started seeing the headlines again.”
The need to return to the Boeing story
Kennedy has made documentaries about the Abu Ghraib torture scandal, the final weeks of the Vietnam War, and the impact that the death of her father—Robert F. Kennedy—had on her mother Ethel. Freefall is her first sequel, motivated, she says, by Boeing’s refusal to improve its once venerated, now dire safety standards. “I was getting approached by whistleblowers inside Boeing saying, not only had things not improved, but they were actually getting worse, and would I consider revisiting this?”
At a certain point, you didn’t need to be a whistleblower to recognize Boeing was struggling to improve its recent track record. In January 2024, a 737 Max 9 plane operated by Alaska Airlines lost a rear door plug in midair, plunging the 171 passengers into pure terror until the plane was able to land with no fatalities. An investigation found that Boeing had improperly fitted the outsourced fuselage and door plug parts in cost-cutting moves that once again resulted in danger. Kennedy was also motivated by a highly publicized but personally-felt tragedy—the death of prime whistleblower John Barnett, who by the end of his 32 years working in quality control at Boeing had made detailed reports on the company’s manufacturing negligence. In March 2024, Barnett was giving a lengthy deposition against Boeing in South Carolina when he failed to appear for his third day of testimony. He was later found dead in his truck from a gunshot wound that the Charleston County coroner described as self-inflicted. Barnett was a friend of Kennedy and lent his expertise to Downfall, and his interviews play throughout Freefall, forming what Kennedy calls a “defining thread" of the film.
“When we started, we didn't know what had happened to John Barnett, we didn't know how the Alaska Airline incident was going to unfold,” she says. “There were whistleblowers still working at Boeing coming forward and wanting their stories to be shared for the first time. Frankly it's one of the things I love about filmmaking, you'
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