Elections; 2024

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Have I said I'm voting for Kamala? I am, I am voting for Kamala.

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Have I said that everyone I know who is voting for Trump I have known them to always been a loser? America's losers are attracted to Trump because he tells them he can fix their lives. Losers fail to understand they have to fix their own lives. They can't delegate the work to a politician or even to God.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Republicans remain convinced that they’re failing financially

Results from this week's YouGov poll:


60% of Republicans say they're worse off than a year ago even though the economy has boomed over the past 12 months:

• The prime age labor force participation rate is up 0.3 points to the highest level in 20 years

• Real GDP per capita is up 2.5%

• Real wages are up 1.5%

• Savings are up 5.7%

• Inflation is down 1.3 percentage points to 2.4%

• Real spending per person is up $1,100

At a guess, I'd say that no more than 10% of the population is worse off financially than they were a year ago. But 60% of Republicans think they are thanks to Fox News.

https://jabberwocking.com/republicans-remain-convinced-that-theyre-fai
ling-financially/


Republicans think everything is terrible

As long as I'm at it, here's a sampling of what Republicans think about various things according to YouGov:


https://jabberwocking.com/republicans-think-everything-is-terrible/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Dancing to the Finish Line, Donald Trump Frees Us

We are finally freed from the task of deciding how to interpret the words that spill out of Donald Trump.

By Dahlia Lithwick | Oct 16, 2024 12:16 PM

For anyone who has dedicated the better part of the past decade to trying to affix meaning to the words spoken by Donald J. Trump, there is something transcendentally satisfying about the news that as of this week, there is nothing left to be parsed. There is just the dancing, and perhaps that can only be witnessed but never understood. At a town hall meeting in Oaks, Pennsylvania, this past weekend, the former president grew weary of his words and language and audience questions, and opted to just crank out the tunes and, well, boogie down for 39 minutes to a playlist of his own choosing.

It is conclusively clear that Trump’s words do not matter. Maybe the only thing that matters is the Dance.

Many Trump supporters appear to like him precisely because they actually don’t believe anything he says. The slippery incoherence is a feature, not a bug. And, as their pollsters noted, “in the latest New York Times/Siena College poll, 41 percent of likely voters agreed with the assessment that “people who are offended by Donald Trump take his words too seriously.” The character flaw now lies in those attempting to understand him, not in his inscrutability. And by those lights, the Dada of a dance recital in lieu of a town hall makes perfect sense.

If anyone asks why this presidential contest is so unbearably close, you can remind them that it’s because we’ve landed in the language-optional era of democracy, in which millions of voters who no longer believe in politics, or the media, or even the stability of language itself nevertheless find it soothing to watch their preferred candidate sway and grind to tunes for which we all, weirdly, know the words by heart. Whatever else has collapsed, the immutability of “It’s fun to stay at the Y-M-C-A” is the one thing we can all still rely upon. Words that signify nothing beyond the fact that words themselves have finally failed.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/10/donald-trump-dance-finally
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Republicans remain convinced that they’re failing financially

Results from this week's YouGov poll:


60% of Republicans say they're worse off than a year ago even though the economy has boomed over the past 12 months:

• The prime age labor force participation rate is up 0.3 points to the highest level in 20 years

• Real GDP per capita is up 2.5%

• Real wages are up 1.5%

• Savings are up 5.7%

• Inflation is down 1.3 percentage points to 2.4%

• Real spending per person is up $1,100

At a guess, I'd say that no more than 10% of the population is worse off financially than they were a year ago. But 60% of Republicans think they are thanks to Fox News.

https://jabberwocking.com/republicans-remain-convinced-that-theyre-fai
ling-financially/


Republicans think everything is terrible

As long as I'm at it, here's a sampling of what Republicans think about various things according to YouGov:


https://jabberwocking.com/republicans-think-everything-is-terrible/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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They're only polling the rich white Democrats.

Probably a good thing, since a lot of those "other" Democrats are finding a home right here with me.



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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

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They're only polling the rich white Democrats.

Probably a good thing, since a lot of those "other" Democrats are finding a home right here with me.



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Trump will be fine.
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When you are dead, you don't know that you are dead. It is difficult only for others.
It is the same when you are stupid, 6ix.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Have I said I'm voting for Kamala? I am, I am voting for Kamala.

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Have I said that everyone I know who is voting for Trump I have known them to always been a loser? America's losers are attracted to Trump because he tells them he can fix their lives. Losers fail to understand they have to fix their own lives. They can't delegate the work to a politician or even to God.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Agreed...

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Holy shit, talk about stupid.

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Bombshell Maddow report: Trump trying again to keep Stormy Daniels quiet

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Tim Walz Labels Trump a 'Fascist' | Walz Kicks off Blue Wall Bus Tour in Wisconsin

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

They're only polling the rich white Democrats.

Probably a good thing, since a lot of those "other" Democrats are finding a home right here with me.



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Trump will be fine.
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When you are dead, you don't know that you are dead. It is difficult only for others.
It is the same when you are stupid, 6ix.

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Feel free to elaborate on that.

I'm sure that sounded super witty in your head, but you're the only one who knows what you're talking about.

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Have I said I'm voting for Kamala? I am, I am voting for Kamala.

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We know. You're a self-hating college "educated" soy-boy cuck of a half-man.

You voting for Kamala is even less surprising than Second posting pirate links.

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On this day in History, October 17th:

National00000000Harris +1.5000Biden +9.00000Clinton +7.0
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Wisconsin0000000Harris +0.3000Biden +6.10000Clinton +6.0
Pennsylvania0000Trump0 +0.5000Biden +5.60000Clinton +6.7
Ohio000000000000Trump0 +7.4000Trump +0.50000Trump00 +0.5
Michigan00000000Trump 0+1.0000Biden +7.20000Clinton +11.4
Arizona000000000Trump0 +1.1000Biden +4.00000Trump00 +0.7
Nevada0000000000Trump0 +0.5000Biden +5.20000Clinton +4.0
North Carolina00Trump0 +1.2000Biden +2.70000Clinton +3.3
Georgia000000000Trump0 +0.9000Biden +2.00000Trump00 +5.3
Florida000000000Trump0 +6.1000Biden +1.40000Clinton +3.6

Trump has a lead in the aggregate in all swing states except for Wisconsin now. Harris' lead in Wisconsin is only +0.3.


If the state polls look like that on Election day, the blowout is going to be even bigger than anticipated with the chronic historical Democrat bias in polls.

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Originally posted by THG:

Have I said I'm voting for Kamala? I am, I am voting for Kamala.

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We know. You're a self-hating college "educated" soy-boy cuck of a half-man.

You voting for Kamala is even less surprising than Second posting pirate links.

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MAGA practices Nihilism. Your viewpoint is any viewpoint that rejects the generally accepted, fundamental aspects of human existence, primarily but not exclusively, knowledge.


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Originally posted by THG:

Have I said I'm voting for Kamala? I am, I am voting for Kamala.

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We know. You're a self-hating college "educated" soy-boy cuck of a half-man.

You voting for Kamala is even less surprising than Second posting pirate links.

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MAGA practices Nihilism. Your viewpoint is any viewpoint that rejects the generally accepted, fundamental aspects of human existence, primarily but not exclusively, knowledge.


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Yup.

You're too stupid to come up with that sentence on your own.

Here's the Wikipedia article you or your AI program lifted that "thought" from.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihilism

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In philosophy, nihilism (/'na?(h)?l?z?m, 'ni?-/; from Latin nihil 'nothing') is any viewpoint, or a family of views, that rejects generally accepted or fundamental aspects of human existence,[1][2] namely knowledge, morality, or meaning.

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I catch Second doing this all the time. You think I'm not going to catch you too? Second has at least 20 IQ points on you buddy.

Nice try.



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Originally posted by THG:
Have I said I'm voting for Kamala? I am, I am voting for Kamala.

SIX: We know. You're a self-hating college "educated" soy-boy cuck of a half-man.
You voting for Kamala is even less surprising than Second posting pirate links.

THG: MAGA practices Nihilism. Your viewpoint is any viewpoint that rejects the generally accepted, fundamental aspects of human existence,

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So, THG, what ARE the "generally accepted, fundamental aspects of human existence"?

Care to list them?

Since you can't list any policy reasons WHY I should vote for Kamala, or list America's interests, or - even more pointedly- America's problems, I suspect that you grabbed that phrase from an online definition but don't have a clue what it means, or even what you're trying to say.

But, yanno, if you want to take a stab at actually explaining what you mean, have at it.


In a while, if I have time, I will explain what you mean, even if you can't.




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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger


AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA

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Originally posted by THG:
Have I said I'm voting for Kamala? I am, I am voting for Kamala.

SIX: We know. You're a self-hating college "educated" soy-boy cuck of a half-man.
You voting for Kamala is even less surprising than Second posting pirate links.

THG: MAGA practices Nihilism. Your viewpoint is any viewpoint that rejects the generally accepted, fundamental aspects of human existence,

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So, THG, what ARE the "generally accepted, fundamental aspects of human existence"?

Care to list them?

Since you can't list any policy reasons WHY I should vote for Kamala, or list America's interests, or - even more pointedly- America's problems, I suspect that you grabbed that phrase from an online definition but don't have a clue what it means, or even what you're trying to say.

But, yanno, if you want to take a stab at actually explaining what you mean, have at it.


In a while, if I have time, I will explain what you mean, even if you can't.

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Knowledge, morality and human values. And I used the term Nihilism to describe you and Jack because it fits you two like a glove. The proof of that is who you chose to champion vs. who I chose to champion.

It's that simple; comrade. It comes across in almost all your guys' posts that you lack these qualities.

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Originally posted by THG:
Have I said I'm voting for Kamala? I am, I am voting for Kamala.

SIX: We know. You're a self-hating college "educated" soy-boy cuck of a half-man.
You voting for Kamala is even less surprising than Second posting pirate links.

THG: MAGA practices Nihilism. Your viewpoint is any viewpoint that rejects the generally accepted, fundamental aspects of human existence,


SIGNY: So, THG, what ARE the "generally accepted, fundamental aspects of human existence"?

Care to list them?

Since you can't list any policy reasons WHY I should vote for Kamala, or list America's interests, or - even more pointedly- America's problems, I suspect that you grabbed that phrase from an online definition but don't have a clue what it means, or even what you're trying to say.

But, yanno, if you want to take a stab at actually explaining what you mean, have at it.


In a while, if I have time, I will explain what you mean, even if you can't.



THG: Knowledge,

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Oh, I believe in knowledge, son. After all, I have a degree in chemistry and a minor in physics and was a working chemist my entire professional life..
My a priori ["nothing before"] assumptions are that we exist in a real world and that it is possible to learn about it. We will never know EVERYTHING bc our minds are limited, but we can get closer and closer to the truth (i.e. understanding the real world).
But unlike you, don't believe that "the authorities" have a lock on knowledge. After all, science is ... supposedly... the endeavor of ASKING QUESTIONS. And when you're talking about political authorities... well, they generally dont know shit from shinola, and their desire to stay in power gives them fundamental motivation to lie. Which, I have observed them doing over and over.
So, yeah... I don't respect bullshit masquerading as accepted wisdom.

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morality

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I have a morals, son, and I have clearly stated them. All of our endeavors are for human benefit, sustainably. If we sacrifice, it's for some greater, or later, benefit. Not for shits and giggles. AFA how we treat each other, I'm a golden rule/ fairness kind of gal.

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human values.

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No idea what you mean. Please explain.

You are championing a cabal that has relentlessly impoverished average Americans and bullied and tried to impoverish the rest of the world. All for the benefit of a vanishingly small number of people. They TALK about freedom and human rights, but they bring starvation and death.

What chaps your ass, son, is that I don't "believe" the established instituitons and authrotities. Not in the political realm, anyway. Like the scientist that I am, I insist on some kind of validated evidence before accepting something as "fact". And even then, I'll change my mind if given better information.

You conflate "established authorities" with morals and knowldege. Thats a mistake.



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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger


AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA

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Originally posted by THG:
Have I said I'm voting for Kamala? I am, I am voting for Kamala.

SIX: We know. You're a self-hating college "educated" soy-boy cuck of a half-man.
You voting for Kamala is even less surprising than Second posting pirate links.

THG: MAGA practices Nihilism. Your viewpoint is any viewpoint that rejects the generally accepted, fundamental aspects of human existence,


SIGNY: So, THG, what ARE the "generally accepted, fundamental aspects of human existence"?

Care to list them?

Since you can't list any policy reasons WHY I should vote for Kamala, or list America's interests, or - even more pointedly- America's problems, I suspect that you grabbed that phrase from an online definition but don't have a clue what it means, or even what you're trying to say.

But, yanno, if you want to take a stab at actually explaining what you mean, have at it.


In a while, if I have time, I will explain what you mean, even if you can't.



THG: Knowledge,

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Oh, I believe in knowledge, son. After all, I have a degree in chemistry and a minor in physics and was a working chemist my entire professional life..
My a priori ["nothing before"] assumptions are that we exist in a real world and that it is possible to learn about it. We will never know EVERYTHING bc our minds are limited, but we can get closer and closer to the truth (i.e. understanding the real world).
But unlike you, don't believe that "the authorities" have a lock on knowledge. After all, science is ... supposedly... the endeavor of ASKING QUESTIONS. And when you're talking about political authorities... well, they generally dont know shit from shinola, and their desire to stay in power gives them fundamental motivation to lie. Which, I have observed them doing over and over.
So, yeah... I don't respect bullshit masquerading as accepted wisdom.

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morality

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I have a morals, son, and I have clearly stated them. All of our endeavors are for human benefit, sustainably. If we sacrifice, it's for some greater, or later, benefit. Not for shits and giggles. AFA how we treat each other, I'm a golden rule/ fairness kind of gal.

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human values.

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No idea what you mean. Please explain.

You are championing a cabal that has relentlessly impoverished average Americans and bullied and tried to impoverish the rest of the world. All for the benefit of a vanishingly small number of people. They TALK about freedom and human rights, but they bring starvation and death.

What chaps your ass, son, is that I don't "believe" the established instituitons and authrotities. Not in the political realm, anyway. Like the scientist that I am, I insist on some kind of validated evidence before accepting something as "fact". And even then, I'll change my mind if given better information.

You conflate "established authorities" with morals and knowldege. Thats a mistake.

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Funny comrade. I kept it simple and short. None of your rebuttals hold water. You support Putin who is wanted for committing war crimes against children. And oh my god so much more.

You also support Trump. So far, he has been convicted of sexual assault and 34 felonies. And comrade, he has many more felonies he is charged with that will end him when he loses the election. He was also ordered to pay a fine of millions for stealing money from his own charity and forced to shut it down. Forced to refund people and shut down Trump university because it was all a fraud. Trust me, it goes on.

I don't support either of these psychopaths, you two do. Like I said, you two do not possess any qualities that include knowledge, morals, or human values. You two are pigs.

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Originally posted by THG:

Have I said I'm voting for Kamala? I am, I am voting for Kamala.

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We know. You're a self-hating college "educated" soy-boy cuck of a half-man.

You voting for Kamala is even less surprising than Second posting pirate links.

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MAGA practices Nihilism. Your viewpoint is any viewpoint that rejects the generally accepted, fundamental aspects of human existence, primarily but not exclusively, knowledge.


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Yup.

You're too stupid to come up with that sentence on your own.

Here's the Wikipedia article you or your AI program lifted that "thought" from.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihilism

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In philosophy, nihilism (/'na?(h)?l?z?m, 'ni?-/; from Latin nihil 'nothing') is any viewpoint, or a family of views, that rejects generally accepted or fundamental aspects of human existence,[1][2] namely knowledge, morality, or meaning.

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I catch Second doing this all the time. You think I'm not going to catch you too? Second has at least 20 IQ points on you buddy.

Nice try.



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Care to comment on your plagiarism, asshole?

Nobody gives a single shit about your opinion. You are a mindfucked dipshit with a middling double-digit IQ.

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Give it up Jack. You didn't catch a thing. It's a word, I know what it means and I've shown that here. Go back to your drooling.

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On this day in History, October 17th (Afternoon Update):

National00000000Harris +1.5000Biden +9.00000Clinton +7.0
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Wisconsin0000000Trump0 +0.1000Biden +6.10000Clinton +6.0
Pennsylvania0000Trump0 +0.5000Biden +5.60000Clinton +6.7
Ohio000000000000Trump0 +7.4000Trump +0.50000Trump00 +0.5
Michigan00000000Trump 0+0.9000Biden +7.20000Clinton +11.4
Arizona000000000Trump0 +1.4000Biden +4.00000Trump00 +0.7
Nevada0000000000Trump0 +0.5000Biden +5.20000Clinton +4.0
North Carolina00Trump0 +1.0000Biden +2.70000Clinton +3.3
Georgia000000000Trump0 +0.9000Biden +2.00000Trump00 +5.3
Florida000000000Trump0 +6.1000Biden +1.40000Clinton +3.6

As of today, Trump now leads in the polling aggregate for EVERY swing state.

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Give it up Jack. You didn't catch a thing. It's a word, I know what it means and I've shown that here. Go back to your drooling.

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80% of your sentence was lifted DIRECTLY from the Wikipedia definition of what Nihilism is.

You are a retard who speaks in nothing but two syllable words, political cartoons and clickbait videos. Anyone who knows you knew that you didn't write that.



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I'll respond to the polls you keep posting from 2016, since you are incapable of learning anything new Jack. As Clinton would say, that dog won't hunt.

What has happened in the past 8 years? All those Trump backed republicans who lost elections, including Trump. All those indictments and convictions of Trump. All those other indictments that are still playing out in the courts. His track record for winning once a trial begins is zero.

Wake up, really, wake up. Oh yeah, if someone uses a word in a sentence, it's a good bet they know what the word means. God you're stupid.

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6ix, there is not a false word in this article, but you won't change your mind about Trump. People who don't change don't prosper in America.

Kamala Harris Is Not a Realist. I’m Voting for Her Anyway
The only realist choice in this year’s election is to reject Trump.

By Stephen M. Walt | October 16, 2024

Stephen M. Walt is a columnist at Foreign Policy and the Robert and Renée Belfer professor of international relations at Harvard University

https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/10/16/kamala-harris-realist-trump-elect
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At this point, there might only be a few dozen undecided voters left in the United States, so writing a column to convince people to vote the right way may be pointless. But given that the election may come down to a few votes in some swing state, I’d feel bad afterward if I hadn’t done all I could. So here’s why I’m voting for Kamala Harris and why you should, too.

You might think a realist/restrainer like me would be leaning toward Donald Trump and J.D. Vance, especially given my dismay at how Biden and his colleagues have handled Gaza, the war in Ukraine, and some other foreign policy issues. Harris wasn’t responsible for those policies, but she has declined to say they were wrong when given the opportunity. Although her principal foreign policy advisor, Philip Gordon, has written sensible things about the limits of U.S. power and the folly of trying to remake whole regions in our image, there’s no sign that Harris’s own views on foreign policy lie outside the Beltway consensus or reflect a realist view of international affairs. By contrast, Trump and Vance say they want U.S. allies in Europe and Asia to bear more of the burden when it comes to their own defense, think it’s time to bring the war in Ukraine to a close, and regard the foreign policy “Blob” with skepticism if not outright contempt. That’s why some self-described realists are enamored with them, and you could easily conclude that I shared their view.

So why am I not ignoring Trump and Vance’s troubling deficiencies of character—which is putting it mildly—and planting a Trump-Vance sign in my yard? Let me count the ways.

First, as I noted repeatedly when Trump was president, he is not a realist, and you’re as likely to get sensible foreign policy from him as you were to get an education from Trump University. He is more accurately seen as a crude nationalist and unilateralist, and the “ism” that best captures him is narcissism. During his first term, he was better at garnering attention than making constructive diplomatic gains, which is why his reality show summits with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, Chinese President Xi Jinping, and Russian President Vladimir Putin went nowhere. He didn’t end any “forever wars” during his first term, gave the Defense Department more money that it didn’t need, and was perfectly content firing missiles into foreign countries to kill leaders he didn’t like. He was impulsive, crude, inattentive, and incapable of forging a clear strategy and sticking to it, which is why his four years in office were devoid of genuine foreign-policy achievements. The much-ballyhooed Abraham Accords don’t count, as they helped lay the groundwork for the carnage that is now convulsing the Middle East, just as critics had warned. (That’s what you get when a president lets his unqualified son-in-law play diplomat in a volatile region.)

And let’s not forget that Trump allowed Iran to restart its nuclear program by leaving the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, abandoned the Paris climate accord, and weakened efforts to balance China by jettisoning the Trans-Pacific Partnership and picking fights with Asian allies instead. This is a foreign-policy record no serious realist should support. Nor would a realist think that sowing division and telling Americans to fear each other is the best way to strengthen the country, let alone make it great. Yet that is exactly what Trump has done throughout his career, and especially during this campaign.

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I'll respond to the polls you keep posting from 2016, since you are incapable of learning anything new Jack. As Clinton would say, that dog won't hunt.

What has happened in the past 8 years? All those Trump backed republicans who lost elections, including Trump. All those indictments and convictions of Trump. All those other indictments that are still playing out in the courts. His track record for winning once a trial begins is zero.

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That's just secondhand, media-induced Cope right there.

Don't hurt yourself on November 6th if you're not going to face reality today.

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Wake up, really, wake up. Oh yeah, if someone uses a word in a sentence, it's a good bet they know what the word means. God you're stupid.

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Who are you kidding, idiot? You plagiarized a wikipedia article and you still have no idea what the word Nihilism means. Your processor isn't powerful enough to grasp the concept of Nihilism. It's just some word you heard somebody on MSNBC say today and you've been using it without knowing what it means ever since.

You're not fooling anyone here. I can't imagine you've ever fooled anybody over 2 years old in your life.


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Trump will be fine.
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At 78 years old, Trump is the OLDEST presidential nominee in US history. Ties in nicely to Trump's statement in this story: "only stupid people" appoint elderly judges to serve on the U.S. Supreme Court.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-confronted-age-amid-supreme-cour
t-justices-remark-1969628

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Trump will be fine.
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At 78 years old, Trump is the OLDEST presidential nominee in US history. Ties in nicely to Trump's statement in this story: "only stupid people" appoint elderly judges to serve on the U.S. Supreme Court.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-confronted-age-amid-supreme-cour
t-justices-remark-1969628

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Not going to bother listening from any of that from you after 4 years of denying that the guy you voted for was a meat Popsicle.

Unlike you, I call out bad behavior on both sides. When it is clear that Trump is losing his marbles I'll be the first one to tell you.



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Have I said I'm voting for Kamala? I am, I am voting for Kamala.

SIX: We know. You're a self-hating college "educated" soy-boy cuck of a half-man.
You voting for Kamala is even less surprising than Second posting pirate links.

THG: MAGA practices Nihilism. Your viewpoint is any viewpoint that rejects the generally accepted, fundamental aspects of human existence,


SIGNY: So, THG, what ARE the "generally accepted, fundamental aspects of human existence"?

Care to list them?

Since you can't list any policy reasons WHY I should vote for Kamala, or list America's interests, or - even more pointedly- America's problems, I suspect that you grabbed that phrase from an online definition but don't have a clue what it means, or even what you're trying to say.

But, yanno, if you want to take a stab at actually explaining what you mean, have at it.


In a while, if I have time, I will explain what you mean, even if you can't.



THG: Knowledge,

SIGNY: Oh, I believe in knowledge, son. After all, I have a degree in chemistry and a minor in physics and was a working chemist my entire professional life..
My a priori ["nothing before"] assumptions are that we exist in a real world and that it is possible to learn about it. We will never know EVERYTHING bc our minds are limited, but we can get closer and closer to the truth (i.e. understanding the real world).
But unlike you, don't believe that "the authorities" have a lock on knowledge. After all, science is ... supposedly... the endeavor of ASKING QUESTIONS. And when you're talking about political authorities... well, they generally dont know shit from shinola, and their desire to stay in power gives them fundamental motivation to lie. Which, I have observed them doing over and over.
So, yeah... I don't respect bullshit masquerading as accepted wisdom.

THUGR: ...morality

SIGNY: I have a morals, son, and I have clearly stated them. All of our endeavors are for human benefit, sustainably. If we sacrifice, it's for some greater, or later, benefit. Not for shits and giggles. AFA how we treat each other, I'm a golden rule/ fairness kind of gal.

THUGR: ... human values.

SIGNY: No idea what you mean. Please explain.

You are championing a cabal that has relentlessly impoverished average Americans and bullied and tried to impoverish the rest of the world. All for the benefit of a vanishingly small number of people. They TALK about freedom and human rights, but they bring starvation and death.

What chaps your ass, son, is that I don't "believe" the established instituitons and authorities. Not in the political realm, anyway. Like the scientist that I am, I insist on some kind of validated evidence before accepting something as "fact". And even then, I'll change my mind if given better information.

You conflate "established authorities" with morals and knowldege. Thats a mistake.

THUGR: Funny comrade. I kept it simple and short. None of your rebuttals hold water. You support Putin who is wanted for committing war crimes against children. And oh my god so much more.

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I don't "support" Putin. I call things as I see them:

Russia is going to win in Ukraine.
Putin has done many good things for Russia and Russians, and maybe we should try some of what he's done (rein in oligarchs, try officials for corruption, reindustrialize the economy)

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Why should I support Dems/ The Blob? Look at where the USA is now.

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THGR: I don't support either of these psychopaths, you two do. Like I said, you two do not possess any qualities that include knowledge, morals, or human values. You two are pigs.

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Neither one is a psychopath. You only think that bc you believe the propaganda you've been fed.

Putin isn't a tyrant, psychopath, strongman, or any of t

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She's Not As Strong As Me": Lip Reader Deciphers Biden-Obama Grumpy Old Men Chat
Thursday, Oct 17, 2024 - 06:20 PM

On Wednesday afternoon, cameras caught President Joe Biden and former President Barack Obama having a 'vigorous' discussion while attending Ethel Kennedy's funeral. Kennedy died last Thursday at the age of 96 after having a stroke the previous week.

Because their voices weren't picked up by the camera, the internet got creative and made a few suggestions:(

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https://x.com/1MANTHRILLRIDE_/status/1846699221749277099

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BTW I don't see the point of pre- election cheerleading. I'd rather talk about policy.

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Trump will be fine.
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At 78 years old, Trump is the OLDEST presidential nominee in US history. Ties in nicely to Trump's statement in this story: "only stupid people" appoint elderly judges to serve on the U.S. Supreme Court.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-confronted-age-amid-supreme-cour
t-justices-remark-1969628

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Not going to bother listening from any of that from you after 4 years of denying that the guy you voted for was a meat Popsicle.

Unlike you, I call out bad behavior on both sides. When it is clear that Trump is losing his marbles I'll be the first one to tell you.



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6ix, you are forgetful. When bad consequences follow the bad behavior after a long time delay of months or years, the Trumptards I know are befuddled about the cause of the misfortunes. They identify scapegoats to blame, but not their past history. That is one reason why I have never witnessed a Trumptard confess to their bad behavior. They forget.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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SECOND, the only bad behavior I see here is you and THGR.

You gonna confess??

Nah .....

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SECOND, the only bad behavior I see here is you and THGR.

You gonna confess??

Nah .....

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I have euphemistically "harmed" many who would characterize my behavior as "bad". A shortcut for understanding why I did this: My projects would have failed if I permitted highly articulate people, the ones who'd call me "bad", to bend the projects in order to accommodate the opinions of these worst people. Think of General William T Sherman deciding to NOT destroy Confederate property because slaveowners were upset by such behavior. General Sherman would have been making his defeat inevitable. The slaveowners would have remained in business and there was a high likelihood the slaveowners would have eventually conquered the USA, instead. Knowing what happened to the ex-slaves after the Civil War was completed, I would have taken the additional step of hanging all slaveowners just to make certain that somebody like Trump would never attempt another conquest.

General Sherman did not foresee the consequences of not annihilating his enemies. He believed mercy would change them. Ha! The worst people will remain convinced they are the best as long as they live.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Oct 16, 2024
Allan Lichtman and his system of predicting the next president, The 13 Keys to the White House, have come under criticism. Critiques say that his 2000 and 2016 predictions are suspect. 2000 being Gore vs Bush and 2016 Trump vs Clinton. Allan Lichtman sets his presidential prediction record straight.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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SECOND, the only bad behavior I see here is you and THGR.

You gonna confess??

Nah .....

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Second thinks all of his daily bad actions take place in a bubble and people judge him by his words.

Typical modern Democrat.

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On this day in History, October 18th:

0000000000000000---2024----000---2020---000----2016-----
National00000000Harris +1.4000Biden +8.9000Clinton0 +7.1
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Wisconsin0000000Trump0 +0.1000Biden +6.1000Clinton0 +6.4
Pennsylvania0000Trump0 +0.5000Biden +4.4000Clinton0 +6.7
Ohio000000000000Trump0 +7.4000Trump +0.5000Trump000 +0.5
Michigan00000000Trump 0+0.9000Biden +7.2000Clinton +12.0
Arizona000000000Trump0 +1.4000Biden +3.9000Trump000 +0.7
Nevada0000000000Trump0 +0.5000Biden +5.2000Clinton 0+4.7
North Carolina00Trump0 +1.0000Biden +2.5000Clinton 0+3.3
Georgia000000000Trump0 +1.1000Biden +1.6000Trump000 +5.3
Florida000000000Trump0 +6.1000Biden +1.3000Clinton0 +3.6

Here's where Trump stands in the battleground states compared to 2020...

National:000000 Trump +7.5
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Wisconsin:00000 Trump +6.0
Pennsylvania:00 Trump +3.9
Ohio:0000000000 Trump +6.9
Michigan:000000 Trump +6.1
Arizona:0000000 Trump +2.5
Nevada:00000000 Trump +4.7
North Carolina: Trump +1.5
Georgia:0000000 Trump +0.5
Florida:0000000 Trump +4.8


Trump now leads in the polling aggregate for EVERY swing state.

Ohio isn't really even a swing state anymore, but on this day 4 years ago it was the only state on the list that Trump was winning.

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SECOND, the only bad behavior I see here is you and THGR.

You gonna confess??

Nah .....

SECOND::I have euphemistically "harmed" many

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euphemistically "harming" people means ACTUALLY harming people. So, what did you do, non- euphemistically?

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who would characterize my behavior as "bad". A shortcut

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Excuse. Rationalization

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for understanding why I did this: My projects would have failed if I permitted highly articulate people, the ones who'd call me "bad", to bend the projects in order to accommodate the opinions of these worst people.

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You lack specifics. Dood, when I describe what I've done, I'm very specific. I could be even more specific except the details wouldn't mean anything to anybody. But I'm proud of what I've done.
You?
Not so much.
Your lack of specifics tells me you are hiding your own actions, bc you realize that ANYONE would think you're bad.



And now for the Big Excuse...

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SECOND: Think of General William T Sherman deciding to NOT destroy Confederate property because slaveowners were upset by such behavior. General Sherman would have been making his defeat inevitable.

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So now you're re- fighting the Civil War

and that excuses your behavior.

And you blame it all on Trump


Son, I've been here at least as long as you, and you were a sociopath long before Trump. And you will be a sociopath afterwards.
Your behavior stays the same, only the excuses change.


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Overall the both of them have been really quiet these last few weeks.

I think it's finally dawned on them that Jack Smith isn't going to save the day and with the chronic Democrat oversampling in polls during Presidential Elections it's quite apparent that Trump is going to run away with this one.

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SECOND, the only bad behavior I see here is you and THGR.

You gonna confess??

Nah .....

SECOND::I have euphemistically "harmed" many

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euphemistically "harming" people means ACTUALLY harming people. So, what did you do, non- euphemistically?

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I loaned money to Trumptards. I kept Trumptards on the payroll. I could have kept loaning and employing Trumptards forever despite them be a 10 to 20% drain on my projects. All I have to do is place them into less and less responsible positions and occasionally intercede when they get jailed or sued. I've got good lawyers that will gripe a bit but they will fix stupid personal problems my employees get into just so long as I pay the fees and apologize for the grubbiness of my Trumptard employees.

I stopped being kind and generous to my Trumptards. The law allows me to discriminate. The results are that the Trumptards' lives fall apart. They have been harmed because I no longer help the Trumptards avoid the consequences of being fat, lazy, stupid, drunk, tax-cheating, incompetent, dishonest employees. I see why Trumptards vote for Trump. He is them. They are him.

I forgot to mention that the non-Trumptards are not perfect but they are seldom in error nor are their mistakes as hideous as those of the Trumptards. As a group, Trumptards are absurd people, like a real version of Homer Simpson but without his redeeming qualities.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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So now you're re- fighting the Civil War

and that excuses your behavior.

And you blame it all on Trump


Son, I've been here at least as long as you, and you were a sociopath long before Trump. And you will be a sociopath afterwards.
Your behavior stays the same, only the excuses change.

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I was slow at understanding why you and 6ix support Russians murdering Ukrainians. You ought to be condemning the Russians, but you don't because you are unable to recognize evil in them or yourself. Metaphorically, your nose can't detect the smell of rotting meat. How would I know that about you? I have seen it all around me when I observe full-blood Trumptards or those who merely can't smell the stink when reading about Trump's daily behavior.

A well-known example of widespread evil behavior in American history was slavery. The slaveowners (and those who were comfortable with slavery without the wealth to own slaves) even went to the extreme of killing non-slaveowners and attempted overthrow of their government. Afterward, the slaveowners (and wannabe slaveowners) never did rectify the evil they had done. And why would they? They couldn't admit that slavery was evil. It smelled great to them. No rotten meat odor coming from the ancient institution of slavery. These people with defective noses then set in motion a new system that mimicked slavery without the need to own the slaves. They couldn't smell the rot. The slave-owners flipped the script by accusing the victorious abolitionists of being evil, even going so far as approving when saintly Lincoln was murdered for thwarting evil.

From that past history, I don't find it at all unusual that a large number of Americans would support evil Donald Trump. They can't smell evil, not in themselves and certainly not is someone who stinks as bad as they do and has their shortcomings and defective thinking, including tax-cheating, dishonesty in business, deliberate misstating facts, gluttony, the whole long list of sins caused by having erratic self-control because, hey, America is all about getting high, not about working toward admirable purposes and goals.

In other words, about half of Americans want to live like Trump. And the other half would despise the Trumptards for how they live if they knew in detail the Trumptards' disgraceful private lives. See 6ix's addictions and cheating the government to gain benefits he doesn't deserve because he is a lazy turd.

Americans have a huge amount of detail on Trump's life. About half are not disgusted by those details since their own lives are just as evil. And how do they handle being evil people? The same way as the slaveowners did, by accusing the opposition of being evil. Signym does this in the purest form by accusing the Ukrainians of being evil. Typical for evil people to designate good people as the true evil.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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What Elon Musk Really Wants

The Tesla and X mogul has long dreamed of redesigning the world in his own extreme image. Trump may be his Trojan horse.

By Franklin Foer | October 19, 2024

https://www.theatlantic.com/books/archive/2024/10/donald-trump-is-elon
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In Elon Musk’s vision of human history, Donald Trump is the singularity. If Musk can propel Trump back to the White House, it will mark the moment that his own superintelligence merges with the most powerful apparatus on the planet, the American government—not to mention the business opportunity of the century.

Many other titans of Silicon Valley have tethered themselves to Trump. But Musk is the one poised to live out the ultimate techno-authoritarian fantasy. With his influence, he stands to capture the state, not just to enrich himself. His entanglement with Trump will be an Ayn Rand novel sprung to life, because Trump has explicitly invited Musk into the government to play the role of the master engineer, who redesigns the American state—and therefore American life—in his own image.

Musk’s pursuit of this dream clearly transcends billionaire hobbyism. Consider the personal attention and financial resources that he is pouring into the former president’s campaign. According to The New York Times, Musk has relocated to Pennsylvania to oversee Trump’s ground game there. That is, he’s running the infrastructure that will bring voters to the polls. In service of this cause, he’s imported top talent from his companies, and he reportedly plans on spending $500 million on it. That doesn’t begin to account for the value of Musk’s celebrity shilling, and the way he has turned X into an informal organ of the campaign.

Musk began as a Trump skeptic—a supporter of Ron DeSantis, in fact. Only gradually did he become an avowed, rhapsodic MAGA believer. His attitude toward Trump seems to parallel his view of artificial intelligence. On the one hand, AI might culminate in the destruction of humanity. On the other hand, it’s inevitable, and if harnessed by a brilliant engineer, it has glorious, maybe even salvific potential.

Musk’s public affection for Trump begins, almost certainly, with his savvy understanding of economic interests—namely, his own. Like so many other billionaire exponents of libertarianism, he has turned the government into a spectacular profit center. His company SpaceX relies on contracts with three-letter agencies and the Pentagon. It has subsumed some of NASA’s core functions. Tesla thrives on government tax credits for electric vehicles and subsidies for its network of charging stations. By Politico’s tabulation, both companies have won $15 billion in federal contracts. But that’s just his business plan in beta form. According to The Wall Street Journal, SpaceX is designing a slew of new products with “national security customers in mind.”

Musk has only begun to tap the pecuniary potential of the government, and Trump is the dream. He rewards loyalists, whether they are foreign leaders who genuflect before him or supplicants who host events at his resorts. Where other presidents might be restrained by norms, Trump shrugs. During his first term, he discovered that his party was never going to punish him for his transgressions.

In the evolving topography of Trumpland, none of his supporters or cronies will have chits to compare with Musk’s. If Trump wins, it will likely be by a narrow margin that can be attributed to turnout. Musk can tout himself as the single variable of success.

It’s not hard to imagine how the mogul will exploit this alliance. Trump has already announced that he will place him in charge of a government-efficiency commission. Or, in the Trumpian vernacular, Musk will be the “secretary of cost-cutting.” SpaceX is the implied template: Musk will advocate for privatizing the government, outsourcing the affairs of state to nimble entrepreneurs and adroit technologists. That means there will be even more opportunities for his companies to score gargantuan contracts. So when Trump brags tha

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So now you're re- fighting the Civil War

and that excuses your behavior.

And you blame it all on Trump


Son, I've been here at least as long as you, and you were a sociopath long before Trump. And you will be a sociopath afterwards.
Your behavior stays the same, only the excuses change.


SECOND I was slow at understanding why you and 6ix support Russians murdering Ukrainians. You ought to be condemning the Russians...

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I am appalled by the killing and destruction. Listening to Russian and Ukrainian soldirrs on the battlfield (translated, of course), the best soldiers see the enemy as something like cockroaches and turn their mental energies to killing them most effectively.

SOMETHING YOU CLAIM TO HAVE DONE.

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... but you don't because you are unable to recognize evil .... blah blah blah ... slavery. ... tax-cheating, dishonesty in business, deliberate misstating facts, gluttony, the whole long list of sins caused by having erratic self-control

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Somehow, YOUR list of evil never includes the evil things YOU'VE done or claim to have done, starting with killing people, hating whole categories of people, threatening people, harassing people, defaming people, and lying nonstop.
You pay your taxes and don't drink?
Bully for you!
That doesn't make you a good person.


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Wow. You've got Second going deep into his fictional lore about himself today, huh?

Better watch what you say now Sigs... He's got a big scary team of lawyers.

I bet they'd all get a good laugh out of Second posting pirated links of Firefly comics and shitty movies when he's got enough money to buy Disney outright.



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On this day in History, October 19th:

0000000000000000---2024----000---2020---000----2016-----
National00000000Harris +1.4000Biden +8.9000Clinton0 +6.5
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Wisconsin0000000Trump0 +0.1000Biden +6.2000Clinton0 +6.5
Pennsylvania0000Trump0 +0.5000Biden +3.8000Clinton0 +6.2
Ohio000000000000Trump0 +7.4000Trump +0.5000Trump000 +0.5
Michigan00000000Trump 0+0.9000Biden +7.3000Clinton +12.0
Arizona000000000Trump0 +1.8000Biden +3.1000Clinton0 +0.4
Nevada0000000000Trump0 +0.8000Biden +5.2000Clinton 0+4.7
North Carolina00Trump0 +1.0000Biden +2.5000Clinton 0+2.8
Georgia000000000Trump0 +1.7000Biden +1.6000Trump000 +5.3
Florida000000000Trump0 +6.1000Biden +1.3000Clinton0 +4.0

Here's where Trump stands in the battleground states compared to 2020...

National:000000 Trump +7.5
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Wisconsin:00000 Trump +6.1
Pennsylvania:00 Trump +4.3
Ohio:0000000000 Trump +6.9
Michigan:000000 Trump +8.1
Arizona:0000000 Trump +4.9
Nevada:00000000 Trump +6.0
North Carolina: Trump +3.5
Georgia:0000000 Trump +3.3
Florida:0000000 Trump +7.4


Trump now leads in the polling aggregate for EVERY swing state.

Ohio isn't really even a swing state anymore, but on this day 4 years ago it was the only state on the list that Trump was winning.

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Wow. You've got Second going deep into his fictional lore about himself today, huh?

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Donald Trump’s negotiating fantasies:

Trump is historically a very poor negotiator. Early in his career he massively overpaid for a USFL team; the Eastern Shuttle; the Plaza Hotel; and his Atlantic City casinos. Then he went bankrupt. Since then he's overpaid for golf courses and hotels, which is why they make little to no money for him. His recent income has come mostly from The Apprentice and from licensing and management deals.

Donald Trump is full of stories about his negotiating prowess. Here are some examples.

1. John Deere: "I said, ‘If John Deere builds those plants (in Mexico), they’re not selling anything into the United States.’ They just announced yesterday they’re probably not going to build the plants, OK? I kept the jobs here.”
Reality: This simply never happened.

. . .

7. The Taliban, as told by Wesley Hunt: During these negotiations, Trump told Taliban leaders that he would kill them “if you harm a hair on a single American,” prompting the translator present with them to appear stunned. “And Trump goes, ‘Tell him. Just tell him what I said!’” Hunt said on The Sage Steele Show. “Reached into his pocket, pulled out a satellite photo of the leader of the Taliban’s home, and handed it to him, got up, and walked out the room.”
Reality: There's no record of this happening. The real story is that Trump was desperate to withdraw and negotiated an epically bad deal.

https://jabberwocking.com/donald-trumps-negotiating-fantasies/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Yeah. Sure. Whatever.

BTW... this data is already out of date. Kamala fell to +1.3 an hour after I put this together.

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On this day in History, October 19th:

0000000000000000---2024----000---2020---000----2016-----
National00000000Harris +1.4000Biden +8.9000Clinton0 +6.5
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Wisconsin0000000Trump0 +0.1000Biden +6.2000Clinton0 +6.5
Pennsylvania0000Trump0 +0.5000Biden +3.8000Clinton0 +6.2
Ohio000000000000Trump0 +7.4000Trump +0.5000Trump000 +0.5
Michigan00000000Trump 0+0.9000Biden +7.3000Clinton +12.0
Arizona000000000Trump0 +1.8000Biden +3.1000Clinton0 +0.4
Nevada0000000000Trump0 +0.8000Biden +5.2000Clinton 0+4.7
North Carolina00Trump0 +1.0000Biden +2.5000Clinton 0+2.8
Georgia000000000Trump0 +1.7000Biden +1.6000Trump000 +5.3
Florida000000000Trump0 +6.1000Biden +1.3000Clinton0 +4.0

Here's where Trump stands in the battleground states compared to 2020...

National:000000 Trump +7.5
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Wisconsin:00000 Trump +6.1
Pennsylvania:00 Trump +4.3
Ohio:0000000000 Trump +6.9
Michigan:000000 Trump +8.1
Arizona:0000000 Trump +4.9
Nevada:00000000 Trump +6.0
North Carolina: Trump +3.5
Georgia:0000000 Trump +3.3
Florida:0000000 Trump +7.4


Trump now leads in the polling aggregate for EVERY swing state.

Ohio isn't really even a swing state anymore, but on this day 4 years ago it was the only state on the list that Trump was winning.

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Babylon Bee: Democrats Wondering If It's Too Late To Go Back To Joe Biden

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U.S. — After watching Kamala self-immolate on national television, Democrats have begun wondering if it's too late to just go back to Joe Biden.

"He was at least able to answer some questions, occasionally," said strategist Neil Massey. "I mean Biden was like Winston Churchill compared to this word salad of vindictive psychopathy."

At publishing time, Democrats had decided that Biden was indeed too senile, but checked to see if perhaps Jimmy Carter was interested in a second term.




Harris Complains She Was Not Informed The Interview Would Include Questions

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WASHINGTON, D.C. — In response to her testy interview last night, presidential candidate Kamala Harris has stepped forward to accuse Fox News of journalistic malpractice, claiming that the media company never informed her the interview would include questions.

According to Harris, the interview constituted an ambush unlike any she has ever faced in her legal or political career.

"Holistically speaking, me and my team, we were holistically not informed that this interview would include questions," Harris said as several journalists from ABC gave her a back massage and worked on editing her next interview. "It's absolutely terrible. Even CNN at least gave us the questions holistically in advance. These chauvinist pigs at Fox are completely taking advantage of a very strong, competent, fragile woman of color. Holistically disgraceful!"

While several aides have reportedly tried to calm Kamala down with offerings of Jack Daniels and Pinot Grigio, she has remained defiant.

"Joe never had to do anything like this! I shouldn't either!" Kamala shouted at Gayle Quare, a purple-haired intern. "Where's my shot glass??"

At publishing time, Kamala had demanded that the media atone for their heinous deed by applying some heat to Donald Trump instead of always picking on her like they do all the time.





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Trump: "Xi Jinping knows I’m fucking crazy"

The Wall Street Journal asks Donald Trump how he would persuade Xi Jinping to leave Taiwan alone:

“Oh, very easy,” the former president says.... “I would say: If you go into Taiwan, I’m sorry to do this, I’m going to tax you” — meaning impose tariffs — “at 150% to 200%.” He might even shut down trade altogether.

Mr. Gigot: “Would you use military force against a blockade on Taiwan?” Mr. Trump: “I wouldn’t have to, because he respects me and he knows I’m fucking crazy.”

I guess this is his all-purpose answer for everything. I wonder if Trump realizes that he can only do it once? Or that if he followed through we'd be short of gallium, antibiotics, and iPhones in pretty short order? Probably not.

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/donald-trump-the-bully-with-a-heart-of-gol
d-2024-presidential-election-dd922dd6?st=TtuHpg&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Karyn Strickler joins Allan Lichtman and discusses Vote Climate U.S. PAC's 2024 Voter's Guide. Karyn shows how her guide can help you vote for candidates in the House, Senate, and for President who are fighting to combat climate change.

Check out Vote Climate's website here: https://voteclimatepac.org/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Trump: "Xi Jinping knows I’m fucking crazy"

The Wall Street Journal asks Donald Trump how he would persuade Xi Jinping to leave Taiwan alone:

“Oh, very easy,” the former president says.... “I would say: If you go into Taiwan, I’m sorry to do this, I’m going to tax you” — meaning impose tariffs — “at 150% to 200%.” He might even shut down trade altogether.

Mr. Gigot: “Would you use military force against a blockade on Taiwan?” Mr. Trump: “I wouldn’t have to, because he respects me and he knows I’m fucking crazy.”

I guess this is his all-purpose answer for everything. I wonder if Trump realizes that he can only do it once? Or that if he followed through we'd be short of gallium, antibiotics, and iPhones in pretty short order? Probably not.

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/donald-trump-the-bully-with-a-heart-of-gol
d-2024-presidential-election-dd922dd6?st=TtuHpg&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Maybe it's time we find out what would really happen in that theoretical situation.

I'm curious. Aren't you?

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Originally posted by SECOND:
Trump: "Xi Jinping knows I’m fucking crazy"

The Wall Street Journal asks Donald Trump how he would persuade Xi Jinping to leave Taiwan alone:

“Oh, very easy,” the former president says.... “I would say: If you go into Taiwan, I’m sorry to do this, I’m going to tax you” — meaning impose tariffs — “at 150% to 200%.” He might even shut down trade altogether.

Mr. Gigot: “Would you use military force against a blockade on Taiwan?” Mr. Trump: “I wouldn’t have to, because he respects me and he knows I’m fucking crazy.”

I guess this is his all-purpose answer for everything. I wonder if Trump realizes that he can only do it once? Or that if he followed through we'd be short of gallium, antibiotics, and iPhones in pretty short order? Probably not.

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/donald-trump-the-bully-with-a-heart-of-gol
d-2024-presidential-election-dd922dd6?st=TtuHpg&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Maybe it's time we find out what would really happen in that theoretical situation.

I'm curious. Aren't you?

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Are you curious about what happens if person (A) points a gun and pulls the trigger? Maybe A will miss and target B shoots back and doesn't miss! I have seen that happen and it was huge mess for A. I have also seen what happens when a fucking crazy President, Nixon, made a threat and the other country, Vietnam, refused to lie down and die. Nixon made a huge mess for the USA. China won't lie down and die when Trump goes fucking crazy. Trump will make a huge mess for the USA.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Hey buddy. All I know is that nothing they're doing right now works at all.

Maybe if the people we granted power to lead actually lead and weren't all a bunch of self-serving dog shit we might not find ourselves in this predicament.

The USA had it all. I don't think that can be said anymore.

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Hey buddy. All I know is that nothing they're doing right now works at all.

Maybe if the people we granted power to lead actually lead and weren't all a bunch of self-serving dog shit we might not find ourselves in this predicament.

The USA had it all. I don't think that can be said anymore.

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You see "good people" in trouble because of the government. I see the same people, Trumptards, in trouble because they are stupid lazy assholes -- the literal embodiment of Homer Simpson.

Trump is a live action version of a rich and twisted Homer, but without any of cartoon Homer's redeeming qualities:
https://www.gocomics.com/doonesbury/2024/10/20

Trump calls the Prime Minister of Israel about their unbelievable similarities:
"Bibi, you released 1,000 terrorists and one of them planned October 7th. I released 5,000 terrorists and they took over Afghanistan. Also, we both committed fraud, so you need to stay in office to avoid prison and I need to return to office to avoid it."

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Jack likes to claim others are war mongers even though no one here called for a war but Jack.

Typical Jack, typical MAGA. Say negative shit about others when it's their behavior that you actually hear being described.

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Jack likes to claim others are war mongers even though no one here called for a war but Jack.

Typical Jack, typical MAGA. Say negative shit about others when it's their behavior that you actually hear being described.

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You're going to have to post links to prove that I've advocated for war. I won't wait because you won't find them.

Trump was the only President in this millennia that hasn't started any new wars.

All of the warmongering NeoCons the actual Liberals that used to go to this site railed against everyday support your girl.

Look in the mirror, dummy.

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On this day in History, October 20th:

0000000000000000---2024----000---2020---000----2016-----
National00000000Harris +0.9000Biden +8.6000Clinton0 +6.4
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Wisconsin0000000Trump0 +0.2000Biden +6.3000Clinton0 +6.5
Pennsylvania0000Trump0 +0.7000Biden +3.8000Clinton0 +6.2
Ohio000000000000Trump0 +7.0000Trump +0.2000Trump000 +0.4
Michigan00000000Trump 0+1.2000Biden +7.2000Clinton +12.0
Arizona000000000Trump0 +1.6000Biden +3.1000Clinton0 +1.5
Nevada0000000000Trump0 +0.8000Biden +5.2000Clinton 0+4.7
North Carolina00Trump0 +0.5000Biden +2.3000Clinton 0+2.8
Georgia000000000Trump0 +1.8000Biden +1.2000Trump000 +5.3
Florida000000000Trump0 +7.3000Biden +1.6000Clinton0 +4.0

Here's where Trump stands in the battleground states compared to 2020...

National:000000 Trump +7.7
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Wisconsin:00000 Trump +6.1
Pennsylvania:00 Trump +3.1
Ohio:0000000000 Trump +6.8
Michigan:000000 Trump +8.4
Arizona:0000000 Trump +4.7
Nevada:00000000 Trump +6.0
North Carolina: Trump +2.8
Georgia:0000000 Trump +3.0
Florida:0000000 Trump +8.9

And here's where Trump stands in the battleground states compared to 2016...

National:000000 Trump +5.5
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Wisconsin:00000 Trump +6.3
Pennsylvania:00 Trump +6.9
Ohio:0000000000 Trump +6.6
Michigan:000000 Trump +10.8
Arizona:0000000 Trump +3.1
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Jack likes to claim others are war mongers even though no one here called for a war but Jack.

Typical Jack, typical MAGA. Say negative shit about others when it's their behavior that you actually hear being described.

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You're going to have to post links to prove that I've advocated for war. I won't wait because you won't find them.

Trump was the only President in this millennia that hasn't started any new wars.

All of the warmongering NeoCons the actual Liberals that used to go to this site railed against everyday support your girl.

Look in the mirror, dummy.

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You really are stupid. It's you who is always saying others here are promoting war. I never called for war. I just support those who have been attacked.

My larger point is overall behavior. Like making false claims against others which you do all the time. All the trash behavior, all the immoral points of view in these threads are yours and sigmans and Putin's and Trumps.

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"Immoral?"

Tell me, how am I immoral?

(I think you're finally getting to your ACTUAL objection to my opinions.)

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"Immoral?"

Tell me, how am I immoral?

(I think you're finally getting to your ACTUAL objection to my opinions.)

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First, you hate America because you're a Russian troll. How's that you ask? All your posts suggest America is decadent and in decline.

Second, it doesn't matter what evidence is out there that disputes what you post, you ignore it. Why, because you are a Russian troll, and you hate America.

I could go on, but why? Your posts expose who you are, better than I ever could comrade. Hell, you support Putin who is wanted for crimes against children. The warrant issued by the International Criminal Court, says arrest on sight.

And Trump, convicted of 34 felonies, sexual assault, and is indicted and awaiting trial on dozens of other charges. Then there is his stealing from charities and other assorted frauds he perpetrated.

Are you kidding me? You support these two over someone who has worked in law and order all her life. As well as being vice president. You want us to believe you have a higher moral base then those you support, bullshit. You and Jack are the same as the scum you hang around with comrade. And you can't wash it off. It a pigment that sticks to you throughout. Even in the dark, it glows exposing you as morally deficient, and morally corrupt. And those opinions, are who you are dummy.

Let me say it as an American; you're a low-life.


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You are a ridiculous person Ted.

One day you will wake up and be embarrassed about all that time you just left the keys in the car and let somebody else do all the driving for you.

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You are a ridiculous person Ted.

One day you will wake up and be embarrassed about all that time you just left the keys in the car and let somebody else do all the driving for you.

He will also be your next President.

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I'll tell you what I told signym. First, you hate America because you're a Russian troll. How's that you ask? All your posts suggest America is decadent and in decline.

Second, it doesn't matter what evidence is out there that disputes what you post, you ignore it. Why, because you are a Russian troll, and you hate America.

I could go on, but why? Your posts expose who you are, better than I ever could comrade. Hell, you support Putin who is wanted for crimes against children. The warrant issued by the International Criminal Court, says arrest on sight.

And Trump, convicted of 34 felonies, sexual assault, and is indicted and awaiting trial on dozens of other charges. Then there is his stealing from charities and other assorted frauds he perpetrated.

Are you kidding me? You support these two over someone who has worked in law and order all her life. As well as being vice president. You want us to believe you have a higher moral base then those you support, bullshit. You and Jack are the same as the scum you hang around with comrade. And you can't wash it off. It a pigment that sticks to you throughout. Even in the dark, it glows exposing you as morally deficient, and morally corrupt. And those opinions, are who you are dummy.

Let me say it as an American; you're a low-life.

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There has been a 13.2 point swing towards Trump in Ohio and a 12.2 point swing towards Trump in Florida since 2016.

That's interesting.





Nobody cares about your opinions about other people, Ted. You are a terrible judge of character because you don't even understand yourself.

Are you making sure you're not going to lose your mind on the morning of November 6th?

You should be making those preparations right now.

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"Immoral?"
Tell me, how am I immoral?

(I think you're finally getting to your ACTUAL objection to my opinions.)

THUGR First, you hate America because you're a Russian troll. How's that you ask? All your posts suggest America is decadent and in decline.

Second, it doesn't matter what evidence is out there that disputes what you post, you ignore it. Why, because you are a Russian troll, and you hate America.

I could go on, but why? Your posts expose who you are, better than I ever could comrade. Hell, you support Putin who is wanted for crimes against children. The warrant issued by the International Criminal Court, says arrest on sight.

And Trump, convicted of 34 felonies, sexual assault, and is indicted and awaiting trial on dozens of other charges. Then there is his stealing from charities and other assorted frauds he perpetrated.

Are you kidding me? You support these two over someone who has worked in law and order all her life. As well as being vice president. You want us to believe you have a higher moral base then those you support, bullshit. You and Jack are the same as the scum you hang around with comrade. And you can't wash it off. It a pigment that sticks to you throughout. Even in the dark, it glows exposing you as morally deficient, and morally corrupt. And those opinions, are who you are dummy.

Let me say it as an American; you're a low-life.

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How about addressing the question: How am I immoral? How am I a "low life“?

I went to university and studied hard.
I did my best at every job I ever had, from telemarketer to grocery store cashier to technician to chemist. I have an honest day's work at whatever pay and whatever job.

I am the best wife and mother I know how to be.

Like SECOND continually trumpets, I pay my taxes! I don't cheat! And don't do drugs!

I don't overspend.

I am honest with others and myself. (Apparently this gets me in trouble with you!)

I do my best to understand the world around me, physically, ecnomically, politically, and socially ... and even militarily ... which TBH, altho important, bores me to tears (Apparently this gets me in trouble with you too!)

I care about my fellow Americans, all of humanity, and the environment.

I have worked most of my professional life working to improve the environment.

I want everyone to be prosperous and in control of their future.

So what's the problem?



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There has been a 13.2 point swing towards Trump in Ohio and a 12.2 point swing towards Trump in Florida since 2016.

That's interesting.



Nobody cares about your opinions about other people, Ted. You are a terrible judge of character because you don't even understand yourself.

Are you making sure you're not going to lose your mind on the morning of November 6th?

You should be making those preparations right now.

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Ah, I'm hurt. I thought you cared about my opinions because you always comment on them. That said, the republicans are doing what I call, poll dumping. As I've just recently said, like the polls that created the panic about a red wave that fell flat. You remember, Polls meant to do what you, dummy, buy into.


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
"Immoral?"
Tell me, how am I immoral?

(I think you're finally getting to your ACTUAL objection to my opinions.)

THUGR First, you hate America because you're a Russian troll. How's that you ask? All your posts suggest America is decadent and in decline.

Second, it doesn't matter what evidence is out there that disputes what you post, you ignore it. Why, because you are a Russian troll, and you hate America.

I could go on, but why? Your posts expose who you are, better than I ever could comrade. Hell, you support Putin who is wanted for crimes against children. The warrant issued by the International Criminal Court, says arrest on sight.

And Trump, convicted of 34 felonies, sexual assault, and is indicted and awaiting trial on dozens of other charges. Then there is his stealing from charities and other assorted frauds he perpetrated.

Are you kidding me? You support these two over someone who has worked in law and order all her life. As well as being vice president. You want us to believe you have a higher moral base then those you support, bullshit. You and Jack are the same as the scum you hang around with comrade. And you can't wash it off. It a pigment that sticks to you throughout. Even in the dark, it glows exposing you as morally deficient, and morally corrupt. And those opinions, are who you are dummy.

Let me say it as an American; you're a low-life.

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How about addressing the question: How am I immoral? How am I a "low life“?

I went to university and studied hard.

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You should get a refund comrade. As for answering the question again, give me about a month to stop laughing.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
"Immoral?"
Tell me, how am I immoral?

(I think you're finally getting to your ACTUAL objection to my opinions.)

THUGR First, you hate America because you're a Russian troll. How's that you ask? All your posts suggest America is decadent and in decline.

Second, it doesn't matter what evidence is out there that disputes what you post, you ignore it. Why, because you are a Russian troll, and you hate America.

I could go on, but why? Your posts expose who you are, better than I ever could comrade. Hell, you support Putin who is wanted for crimes against children. The warrant issued by the International Criminal Court, says arrest on sight.

And Trump, convicted of 34 felonies, sexual assault, and is indicted and awaiting trial on dozens of other charges. Then there is his stealing from charities and other assorted frauds he perpetrated.

Are you kidding me? You support these two over someone who has worked in law and order all her life. As well as being vice president. You want us to believe you have a higher moral base then those you support, bullshit. You and Jack are the same as the scum you hang around with comrade. And you can't wash it off. It a pigment that sticks to you throughout. Even in the dark, it glows exposing you as morally deficient, and morally corrupt. And those opinions, are who you are dummy.

Let me say it as an American; you're a low-life.

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How about addressing the question: How am I immoral? How am I a "low life“?

I went to university and studied hard.

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You should get a refund comrade. As for answering the question again, give me about a month to stop laughing.

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You still haven't figured out how to use an apostrophe and you're drawing a Social Security paycheck.

Keep those stones to yourself, boy.

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MSNBC asks AZ voters on Trump's mental acuity

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Nobody cares about your MSNBC clickbait, Theodore.

You're about to lose an election.



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The Hill: What if Joe Biden was the better candidate all along?

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4941734-biden-harris-woodward-pre
sidential-election/



Womp, Womp.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
"Immoral?"
Tell me, how am I immoral?
(I think you're finally getting to your ACTUAL objection to my opinions.)

THUGR: First, you hate America because you're a Russian troll. How's that you ask? All your posts suggest America is decadent and in decline.

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I think America is decadent and in decline.
You seem to be very authority-minded. What if I told you there are quite a few colonels, generals, former Cabinet members, intelligence officers who say the same?

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THUGR: Second, it doesn't matter what evidence is out there that disputes what you post, you ignore it. Why, because you are a Russian troll, and you hate America.

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YOU NEVER POST ABOUT AMERICA.
Russia and Putin? Endlessly!
China? You bet!
America?
NOT SO MUCH.
Post about America... where we're successful. I'll read it.

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THGR: I could go on, but why?

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No, you can't. I have asked you multiple times to explain yourself on various issues in your own words, and you can't.
If there isn't a cartoon or a video for you, you're stuck.

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THGR: Your posts expose who you are, better than I ever could comrade. Hell, you support Putin who is wanted for crimes against children. The warrant issued by the International Criminal Court, says arrest on sight.

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One of your precious publications was so exercised about the fact that Russia's child protection agency wouldn't release a young child to her 16 year old cousin.
That's no crime
Meanwhile, the ICC can't squeeze out an arrest warrant for Netanyahu, who is carrying out a genocide killing 30,000 women and children so far.
Politicized, much?

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THGR And Trump, convicted of 34 felonies, sexual assault, and is indicted and awaiting trial on dozens of other charges. Then there is his stealing from charities and other assorted frauds he perpetrated.

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And then there is the Biden International Grift. The only things protecting Biden are the FBI and senility.

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THGR Are you kidding me? You support these two over someone who has worked in law and order all her life. As well as being vice president.

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And what has Kamala done, for SanFran, California , and the USA?
You can't answer. Neither can I!

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You want us to believe you have a higher moral base then those you support, bullshit. You and Jack are the same as the scum you hang around with comrade. And you can't wash it off. It a pigment that sticks to you throughout. Even in the dark, it glows exposing you as morally deficient, and morally corrupt. And those opinions, are who you are dummy.
Let me say it as an American; you're a low-life.

SIGNY: How about addressing the question: How am I immoral? How am I a "low life“?
I went to university and studied hard.

THUGR: You should get a refund comrade. As for answering the question again, give me about a month to stop laughing.

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You didn't answer it the first time.

I keep looking for evidence that you can actually explain yourself..

Sadly, so far there isn't any.




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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
"Immoral?"

Tell me, how am I immoral?

(I think you're finally getting to your ACTUAL objection to my opinions.)

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Signym, when I see people like you, I don't have to take samples and send out to a laboratory for conformation of your shitty life. YOU go to the effort to tell the world you are a horror and don't know it. I will hint at how that works for other horrors because using YOU as the only example, you would not understand. Example 1: Every slave-owner was "moral" in their own estimation. They lived free after losing their slaves (except the slave-owners killed in retribution by slaves and soldiers; not everybody believes that only the courts can decide who deserves punishment) but they were guilty of horrible behavior. Example 2: Every Nazi prison camp guard would declare they were highly moral. Their behavior was horrible but they didn't suffer and lived free after all their prisoners were dead or released. Example 3 (the one Signym will never understand): Every defender of Trump would say there is no final proof he is a crook, thief, rapist, tax cheater, nor that Trumptards are attracted to Trump because they do what he does and remain out of jail as Trump does.

Trump and his Trumptards will not admit what he is. And so long as they won't, they firmly believe they can't be convicted without their confession. Who else was like that? Nazi prison guards thought they were moral and most didn't get punished. (Guards should have remembered to burn the payroll records before the last day at work or else the Nazi hunters might find them when they are 95 years old.) All that happened to most of the guards was losing a high paying job. They found other work instead of incinerating prisoners. Slave-owners thought they were moral. The worst that happened to most of them is losing an unpaid work force. Instead, they had a minimum wage work force and no control of the Federal government and no way to make slavery legal, again. Trumptards think Trump and they are moral. (Trump's lawyers will keep him out of jail until the day he dies, therefore he is not guilty. Even if he is jailed, he is not guilty in their minds.) The worst punishment that can happen to Trump and his Trumptards is not controlling the entire Federal government and making not paying income taxes legal, again. The sad Trumptards won't have all their evil dreams come true.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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SECOND: Signym, when I see people like you

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Uh huh.

Here's the thing: You don't know me. How do you know what I'm "like"?

You don't.

All you have is your imagination. You are reacting to a figment of your imagination.

What you DO know about me is my posting history, just like I know yours. And you know that I am consistently evidence- based. I use reason and logic. I speak for myself. I don't lie, so I don't contradict myself a dozen times a day. I don't threaten people, or wish ill on on others. I don't advocate war, regime change, or destabilization. I speak for the environment. I am not in favor of greed. I want people to have agency over the most important aspects of their lives, and be able to make a decent living thru honest work. I support our Constitution.

It goes without saying that I'm against slavery.

I look for the greatest good for the greatest number, starting with Americans.

IMHO that, in itself, demonstrates my morally upright character and my patriotism. Just as your posts demonstrate your moral decrepitude.




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Looks like Democrats all spent Tuesday collectively pissing themselves.

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Betting Markets today...

Trump: 60.1 / Harris: 38.4



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SECOND: Signym, when I see people like you

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Uh huh.

Here's the thing: You don't know me. How do you know what I'm "like"?

You don't.

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Dummy, you've been posting here for years. We know exactly who and what you are comrade.

First, you hate America because you're a Russian troll. How's that you ask? All your posts suggest America is decadent and in decline.

Second, it doesn't matter what evidence is out there that disputes what you post, you ignore it. Why, because you are a Russian troll, and you hate America.

I could go on, but why? Your posts expose who you are, better than I ever could comrade. Hell, you support Putin who is wanted for crimes against children. The warrant issued by the International Criminal Court, says arrest on sight.

And Trump, convicted of 34 felonies, sexual assault, and is indicted and awaiting trial on dozens of other charges. Then there is his stealing from charities and other assorted frauds he perpetrated.

Are you kidding me? You support these two over someone who has worked in law and order all her life. As well as being vice president. You want us to believe you have a higher moral base then those you support, bullshit. You and Jack are the same as the scum you hang around with comrade. And you can't wash it off. It a pigment that sticks to you throughout. Even as you post from the shadows, it glows exposing you as morally deficient, and morally corrupt. Those opinions you post, tell us everything about you.

Let me say it as an American; you're a low-life.

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You are never going to win another election again if you keep talking down to people like you do, Theodore.

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THGR First, you hate America because you're a Russian troll. How's that you ask? All your posts suggest America is decadent and in decline.

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THUGR, let's start with something simple: What is it about my posts that makes you think I "hate" America?

Yes, I think America is decadent and in decline.
But if I truly hated America, I'd be advocating everything I thought was BAD for America, just to kill it off sooner

I'd be posting "Yeah! Run up the debt!"
Or, are you saying the massive indebtedness is GOOD for America?

I'd be posting "Yeah! Let's deindustrialize some more!"
Or, are you saying deindustrialization is GOOD for America?

I'd be posting "Yeah! Let piss off the whole world!"
Or are you saying that being surrounded by enemies is GOOD for America?

I think you need to wake up to the fact that we face some seriously bad problems, and ignoring them isn't gonna make them go away.

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But! But! But!....

HOPE AND JOY!!!!

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It's seriously not even worth taking any time to try to have a conversation with somebody like Ted. He's just simply not intelligent enough to grasp anything beyond the superficial, and he lives in a black and white reality where there is never any nuance.

As such, he is easily manipulated and he is behaving like a good little soldier, repeating the type of words and insults that his Masters at MSNBC tell him to say to anybody who doesn't agree with them.

Even if it were possible to educate somebody as stupid as Ted with the Truth, they've made that impossible because he's completely shut himself inside his echo chamber and he will attack anybody who doesn't believe what he believes.

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He seems to think that criticizing somebody is "hating" them

If I knew a junkie and I really hated them, I'd go buy them more heroin, with the hope they'd kill themselves off.

If I cared about them, I'd be nagging them.

He just doesn't "get it".

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SECOND: Signym, when I see people like you

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Uh huh.

Here's the thing: You don't know me. How do you know what I'm "like"?

You don't.

All you have is your imagination. You are reacting to a figment of your imagination.

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I never knew any slave-owners, but they left a written record of their belief in being superior. They should have been killed for what they did. (I don't find it confusing that the Founding Fathers were slave-owners. Even totally evil people can competently administer a complex hierarchy if they benefit.)

I've got an opinion about Nazis. I've known a few. (Same comment. Even totally evil people can competently administer a complex organization. They were killed by the millions but they all should have died.)

I have known thousands of Trumptards. (Different comment. These people are evil but also incompetent. No surprise how much trouble they get into while in America. See the last 40 years of Trump's life for what "trouble" means.)

Then there are super-assholes who are indifferent or even support Russia's invasion of Ukraine and murdering Ukrainians and cheering for Putin, indelibly marking themselves as the worst people here and now. I know what you are "like", Signym and 6ix, your beliefs and afflictions.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Kamala Harris leads Trump by 24 points among recent deciders

From an Emerson poll a few days ago:

“Voters who made up their mind in the last month or week break for Harris, 60% to 36%,” Kimball said. “The three percent of voters who said they could still change their mind currently favor Harris, 48% to 43%.”

This gibes with my belief that most people who haven't already committed to Trump are likely to vote for Harris when they finally make a decision. We'll see.

https://jabberwocking.com/kamala-harris-leads-trump-by-24-points-among
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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SECOND: Signym, when I see people like you

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Uh huh.
Here's the thing: You don't know me. How do you know what I'm "like"?
You don't.
All you have is your imagination. You are reacting to a figment of your imagination.

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I never knew any slave-owners, but they left a written record of their belief in being superior

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OMG!! Are you posting about ... YOURSELF??? WTH, man? That's all we ever read about!

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SECOND I've got an opinion about Nazis...

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Given your propensity to want to "annihilate" those "inferior" to you ... which is at least half the world ... I guess you qualify here too.

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I have known thousands of Trumptards...

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I doubt you've known 100 people your entire life.

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blah blah blah... cheering for Putin... blah blah blah

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Just bc I predict that Russia will win doesn't mean I'm "cheering him on". All it means is that I don't partake of your delusions.

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Just bc I predict that Russia will win doesn't mean I'm "cheering him on". All it means is that I don't partake of your delusions.

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Vladimir Putin continues his campaign to elect Donald Trump

Vladimir Putin is doing whatever he can to help Donald Trump win:

U.S. intelligence officials on Tuesday said Russians seeking to disrupt the U.S. elections created a faked video and other material smearing Democratic vice-presidential nominee Tim Walz.... They added that Russian government agencies and contractors, which generally seek to boost Republican former president Donald Trump’s campaign, are considering trying to instigate physical violence in the fraught period after voters cast their ballots.

....Russia is “potentially seeking to stoke threats towards poll workers, as well as amplifying protests and potentially encouraging protests to be violent,” the official added.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/10/22/russia-ele
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Why is Putin so enamored of Trump? Lots of reasons, but I suppose the biggest one right now is that he thinks Trump will cut off aid to Ukraine and guarantee a Russian victory. If I were Putin, I suppose I'd prefer Trump too.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Just bc I predict that Russia will win doesn't mean I'm "cheering him on". All it means is that I don't partake of your delusions.

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This is from Ukraine/Russian thread. Signym did not respond.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64887&mid=1
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So, just OOC what are your dark predictions for a Trump second term? I would like to know what worries you most, thanks.

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Trump’s $2.7 trillion in tariff revenues would be unable to cover $9.2 trillion in tax cuts.

https://apnews.com/article/budget-deficit-trump-harris-kamala-debt-1ee
3ff65e22ccf19d19b792ee22c46da

Signym, $9.2 trillion does not sound too bad to you, does it? But the analysis includes other possibilities that show far higher deficits under Trump. If his tariffs raised less money and there were higher costs for his mass deportations and tax breaks, the national debt could jump by $15.2 trillion.

Signym, I say $15.2 trillion for electing Trump is too high a price to pay for him saving Putin from the consequences of invading Ukraine.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Trump: ‘I Need the Kind of Generals That Hitler Had’

The Republican nominee’s preoccupation with dictators, and his disdain for the American military, is deepening.

Jeffrey Goldberg | October 22, 2024, 3:38 PM ET

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/10/trump-military-ge
nerals-hitler/680327/

In April 2020, Vanessa Guillén, a 20-year-old Army private, was bludgeoned to death by a fellow soldier at Fort Hood, in Texas. The killer, aided by his girlfriend, burned Guillén’s body. Guillén’s remains were discovered two months later, buried in a riverbank near the base, after a massive search.

Guillén, the daughter of Mexican immigrants, grew up in Houston, and her murder sparked outrage across Texas and beyond. Fort Hood had become known as a particularly perilous assignment for female soldiers, and members of Congress took up the cause of reform. Shortly after her remains were discovered, President Donald Trump himself invited the Guillén family to the White House. With Guillén’s mother seated beside him, Trump spent 25 minutes with the family as television cameras recorded the scene.

In the meeting, Trump maintained a dignified posture and expressed sympathy to Guillén’s mother. “I saw what happened to your daughter Vanessa, who was a spectacular person, and respected and loved by everybody, including in the military,” Trump said. Later in the conversation, he made a promise: “If I can help you out with the funeral, I’ll help—I’ll help you with that,” he said. “I’ll help you out. Financially, I’ll help you.”

Natalie Khawam, the family’s attorney, responded, “I think the military will be paying—taking care of it.” Trump replied, “Good. They’ll do a military. That’s good. If you need help, I’ll help you out.” Later, a reporter covering the meeting asked Trump, “Have you offered to do that for other families before?” Trump responded, “I have. I have. Personally. I have to do it personally. I can’t do it through government.” The reporter then asked: “So you’ve written checks to help for other families before this?” Trump turned to the family, still present, and said, “I have, I have, because some families need help … Maybe you don’t need help, from a financial standpoint. I have no idea what—I just think it’s a horrific thing that happened. And if you did need help, I’m going to—I’ll be there to help you.”

A public memorial service was held in Houston two weeks after the White House meeting. It was followed by a private funeral and burial in a local cemetery, attended by, among others, the mayor of Houston and the city’s police chief. Highways were shut down, and mourners lined the streets.

Five months later, the secretary of the Army, Ryan McCarthy, announced the results of an investigation. McCarthy cited numerous “leadership failures” at Fort Hood and relieved or suspended several officers, including the base’s commanding general. In a press conference, McCarthy said that the murder “shocked our conscience” and “forced us to take a critical look at our systems, our policies, and ourselves.”

According to a person close to Trump at the time, the president was agitated by McCarthy’s comments and raised questions about the severity of the punishments dispensed to senior officers and noncommissioned officers.

In an Oval Office meeting on December 4, 2020, officials gathered to discuss a separate national-security issue. Toward the end of the discussion, Trump asked for an update on the McCarthy investigation. Christopher Miller, the acting secretary of defense (Trump had fired his predecessor, Mark Esper, three weeks earlier, writing in a tweet, “Mark Esper has been terminated”), was in attendance, along with Miller’s chief of staff, Kash Patel. At a certain point, according to two people present at the meeting, Trump asked, “Did they bill us for the funeral? What did it cost?”

According to attendees, and to contemporaneous notes of the meeting taken by a participant, an aide answered: Yes, we received a bill; the funeral cost $60,000.

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No wonder SECOND tried to bury this, and why he won't respond to this post ...

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SECOND: Signym, when I see people like you

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Uh huh.
Here's the thing: You don't know me. How do you know what I'm "like"?
You don't.
All you have is your imagination. You are reacting to a figment of your imagination.

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SECOND: I never knew any slave-owners, but they left a written record of their belief in being superior ...

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SIGNY OMG!! Are you posting about ... YOURSELF??? WTH, man? That's all we ever read about!

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SECOND: ... I've got an opinion about Nazis...

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SIGNY: Given your propensity to want to "annihilate" those "inferior" to you ... which is at least half the world ... I guess you qualify here too.

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SECOND: I have known thousands of Trumptards...

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SIGNY: I doubt you've known 100 people your entire life.

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SECOND: blah blah blah... cheering for Putin... blah blah blah

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SIGNY: Just bc I predict that Russia will win doesn't mean I'm "cheering him on". All it means is that I don't partake of your delusions.

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So, WTH, SECOND? Gonna post MORE about your superiority???


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No wonder SECOND tried to bury this, and why he won't respond to this post ...

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This is your third chance to respond, Signym. And you are cheering Russia on, the infamous country that killed 64 million of its people, including 4 million Ukrainians back when it called itself the Soviet Union. Name changes didn't change its nature as a mass murderer. I can't say every Russian is an accessory to murder but pretty close to every Russian has amnesia about those murders, as do you, Signym.

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Just bc I predict that Russia will win doesn't mean I'm "cheering him on". All it means is that I don't partake of your delusions.

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This is from Ukraine/Russian thread. Signym did not respond.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64887&mid=1
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

So, just OOC what are your dark predictions for a Trump second term? I would like to know what worries you most, thanks.

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Trump’s $2.7 trillion in tariff revenues would be unable to cover $9.2 trillion in tax cuts.

https://apnews.com/article/budget-deficit-trump-harris-kamala-debt-1ee
3ff65e22ccf19d19b792ee22c46da

Signym, $9.2 trillion does not sound too bad to you, does it? But the analysis includes other possibilities that show far higher deficits under Trump. If his tariffs raised less money and there were higher costs for his mass deportations and tax breaks, the national debt could jump by $15.2 trillion.

Signym, I say $15.2 trillion for electing Trump is too high a price to pay for him saving Putin from the consequences of invading Ukraine.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Trump promised on TV to pay funeral expenses for a dead soldier. When it came time to pay, as he has thousands of times before when presented with the opportunity, Trump reveals his true character:

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At a certain point, according to two people present at the meeting, Trump asked, “Did they bill us for the funeral? What did it cost?”

According to attendees, and to contemporaneous notes of the meeting taken by a participant, an aide answered: Yes, we received a bill; the funeral cost $60,000.

Trump became angry. “It doesn’t cost 60,000 bucks to bury a fucking Mexican!” He turned to his chief of staff, Mark Meadows, and issued an order: “Don’t pay it!” Later that day, he was still agitated. “Can you believe it?” he said, according to a witness. “Fucking people, trying to rip me off.”

Khawam, the family attorney, told me she sent the bill to the White House, but no money was ever received by the family from Trump.

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https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/10/trump-military-ge
nerals-hitler/680327/

Not paying, until he loses a lawsuit, is a lifelong theme with Trump.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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