Elections; 2024
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UPDATED: Wednesday, September 9, 2026 06:05
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Wow. We won't know what the actual popular vote was until after New Years at the rate Democrats count.
75,175,276 for Trump / 71,933,375 for Harris.
That's like 80,000 votes counted in almost 2.5 hours.
Why are you so broken, West Coast?
We've gotten a pretty decent amount more in the following few hours...
75,405,508 for Trump / 72,270,039 for Harris.
Total votes counted: 147,675,547
Trump's lead: 3,135,469
California: 22% left
Alaska: 20% left
Oregon: 12% left
Utah: 11% left
Maryland: 7% left
Washington: 7% left
Washington D.C.: 7% left
Arizona: 5% left
New Jersey: 5% left
Colorado: 4% left
Nevada: 3% left
New York: 3% left
Nebraska: 2% left
Mississippi: 2% left
Compared to the 2020 election:
The 2020 results were 74,223,369 for Trump and 81,282,916 votes for Biden*
The total EXACT vote count in 2020 was 155,506,285.
The total amount of votes less in 2024 compared to 2020 is down to only 7,830,738 now.
Trump now has 1,182,139 more votes than he did in 2020.
Harris now has 9,012,877 less votes than Biden* did in 2020.
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Quick breakdown of California since most of the remaining votes are coming from there...
Harris: 7,995,458 votes (58.9%)
Trump: 5,180,722 votes (38.1%)
Total: 13,176,180 votes
22% remain... (16,892,539 would be an exact number. We'll call it 16.75 Million to be conservative).
That gives us another 3,573,820 yet to come out of California.
Out of those, using the existing percentage splits, the candidates will get the following of the remaining votes...
Trump: 1,361,625
Harris: 2,104,980
If we add these numbers to the existing totals, that will be fairly close to the final numbers with what little else still needs to be counted outside of California.
Popular Vote Count with California projected and figured in:
Trump: 76,767,133
Harris: 74,375,019
Trump's lead: 2,392,114 (If California were 100% counted today with the same splits toward each candidate).
Total Vote: 151,142,152
With California counted, the popular vote would now only be 4,364,133 less than it was in 2020. It will still be less than that with the stuff in other states that still needs to be counted.
We're already way under less than 1/3rd of what YouTube commentators were claiming was the difference.
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Republicans got a pickup in there somewhere. 219R / 209D.
(Ah... looks to be one of the 3 in California I said were leaning that way)
Maybe they get a buffer or two after all.
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Fox talking head is our new Secretary of Defense
Is this a joke?
President-elect Donald Trump chose Pete Hegseth, who is a combat veteran and co-host on the weekend edition of “Fox & Friends,” to be his defense secretary.
Hegseth has no defense experience—aside from having lots of opinions. He has no government experience and no experience dealing with the Pentagon bureaucracy. He's never run anything bigger than a broom closet. Even at Fox he's only junior varsity, co-hosting the weekend edition of Fox & Friends.
On the other hand, he sure looks like a cabinet secretary. And he agrees with Donald Trump a lot. I suppose that might be good enough for a press secretary, but heading up the biggest, most complex organization in the federal government? You'd think that even the most servile Republican senators might think twice before letting a Fox talking head run the Defense Department. It's considered a pretty important job in some circles.
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Define to me the job responsibilities of the Secretary of Defense.
Don't use Google.
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Quote:Procurement. A trillion dollars per year.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Define to me the job responsibilities of the Secretary of Defense.
Don't use Google.
When you think about the money involved in defense, won't a multi-billionaire be the better choice?
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Trump is assembling ultra-rich dream team to run the country
https://eedition.houstonchronicle.com/infinity/article_popover_share.a
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In billionaires, we trust.
President-elect Donald Trump and his new best friend, Elon Musk, are assembling a dream team to lead the nation. The world’s billionaires, including many Texans, are advising them on who to hire or signing up themselves.
In 2017, Trump formed the wealthiest Cabinet in history, and he’s doing it again.
Voters in 2024 rejected experts, especially economists, scientists, generals, journalists and others who spend their lives gathering knowledge to make the world a better place. Trump convinced Americans to misplace the blame for the nation’s problems on those dedicated to addressing them.
I understand why people admire successful capitalists, but past performance on Wall Street does not guarantee future success in Washington.
Howard Lutnick, the billionaire CEO of trading firm Cantor Fitzgerald, is Trump’s headhunter in chief, co-chairing the transition team. Gary Cohn, the former Goldman Sachs president and chief economic adviser in Trump’s last administration, is helping connect Wall Street talent to Trumpworld. They are not working on behalf of the working class.
Priority number one is getting Wall Street executives back in the top roles. In the Biden administration, Lina Khan has led the Federal Trade Commission to slow the monopolistic mega-mergers that hurt consumers. At the same time, Securities and Exchange Commission boss Gary Gensler has tried to corral some of the abuses in commodities trading, particularly in cryptocurrencies.
Stock and crypto prices jumped in anticipation of Trump ending commonsense financial industry regulation. He has promised to install the most capitalist-friendly administration in world history.
Trump is considering a hedge fund manager, Scott Bessent, to lead the Treasury Department. Bessent, who attended Trump’s victory party, has promised the administration will slash business regulations so corporations can make more money, the Wall Street Journal reported.
Many of these executives recognize the risks Trump’s stated policies pose to the global economy. But like so many Trump supporters, they don’t think he’ll follow through on punishing tariffs or mass deportations. These billionaires believe that staying in Trump’s good graces will allow them to bend his will toward symbolic gestures rather than actual implementation.
Musk is the highest-profile Texas billionaire in Trump’s orbit, but he’s not alone. Oil and gas moguls were anxious to roll back President Joe Biden’s policies to slow climate change and unleash fossil fuel emissions.
Kelcy Warren, co-founder and chairman of Energy Transfer Partners, operates one of the nation’s largest fossil fuel pipeline companies. He invested more than $15 million in pro-Trump political action committees, the watchdog group Open Secrets reported.
Tim Dunn, who recently sold his oil and gas company, gave Trump’s Make America Great Again PAC $5 million. He’s been deeply involved with Christian nationalist groups in Texas for some time and only recently branched out across the nation, giving $18 million this year to a conservative PAC called the Jefferson Rising Fund that supports Trump allies.
Houston billionaire and Hilcorp CEO, Jeff Hildebrand, hosted Trump fundraisers where he helped raise millions from the oil and gas industry. Casino and hospitality magnate Tilman Fertitta gave more than $370,000 to the Republican National Committee and other Trump-affiliated groups.
If you think any of these billionaires support Trump lowering consumer prices or addressing income inequality, you’re mistaken. Business leaders understand that bringing prices down, called deflation, wreaks havoc on the economy and destroys profits.
Many of Trump’s largest donors and most fervent supporters have conflicting interests. M
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Former Trump White House attorney Ty Cobb on Tuesday said it would be a “tragic event” that would have ramifications worldwide if President-elect Donald Trump follows through on his 2024 campaign promise to pardon the Jan. 6, 2021 rioters who stormed the U.S. Capitol in his name.
The move would further demean “the rule of law to those of us in this country, and it’s not going to go unseen around the world,” the lawyer warned.
“I mean, this is the type of conduct that, when viewed internationally, makes it impossible to distinguish the United States from a third-world country or, you know, a South American dictatorship,” he feared. “This is really lawlessness of the highest order, and there’s no principal basis for it. I think it’d be a very sad event.”
https://www.rawstory.com/ty-cobb-trump-2669865494/
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Russia is claiming credit for Trump’s win.
Russia’s intelligence chief, Nikolai Patrushev, made the following comment in an interview with the Moscow newspaper Kommersant:
The election campaign is over. To achieve success in the election, Donald Trump relied on certain forces to which he has corresponding obligations. As a responsible person, he will be obliged to fulfill them.
The Russians are basically telling Trump: We put you in office. Now it’s time for you to pay us back.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/11/trump-election-results-pat
rushev-putin-rubio-russia-ukraine.html
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Procurement. A trillion dollars per year.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Define to me the job responsibilities of the Secretary of Defense.
Don't use Google.
When you think about the money involved in defense, won't a multi-billionaire be the better choice?
I suppose that it depends on exactly what it is you want that person to be up to if you are their boss.
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Ed Kilgore has clearly lost his mind...
Democrats Were Crushed in 2004, Too. It Didn’t Last Long.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/democrats-were-crushed-in-2004
-too-it-didn-t-last-long/ar-AA1tXOWF
Two problems with your theory there, Eddie...
1. GWB steamrolled because he was still riding the sinking coattails of 9/11 that saw him be the most popular US President for the most extended period of time in modern history.
2. Democrats were crushed by the NeoCons because of 9/11. All of those NeoCons just walked across the aisle and announced to the world they were voting for Harris.
This trash that passes as journalism you have here is nothing but textbook false equivalency.
The kind that AI will be doing in your place soon.
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Quote:Before the 2004 election, several things were known about Bush:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
1. GWB steamrolled because he was still riding the sinking coattails of 9/11 that saw him be the most popular US President for the most extended period of time in modern history.
1) There were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, but WMDs were Bush's justification for war.
2) The U.S. Army was torturing prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison. Iraqi civilians were being killed by the hundreds of thousands.
3) Osama bin Laden had not been captured, but his capture was Bush's justification for war in Afghanistan. Bin Laden was in Pakistan, the next country to the East of Afghanistan, where Obama would kill him on May 2, 2011.
4) Bush had not finished the last two years of his service in the Texas Air National Guard, avoiding service in Vietnam, but President Bush would go to enormous lengths to claim he had not gone AWOL, smearing everyone who said differently. Bush did not fulfill his obligations and should have been ordered to active duty in Vietnam.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush_military_service_controve
rsy#Six-year_service_obligation
Despite points 1, 2, 3, and 4, the worthless assholes who would become Trumptards voted for Bush.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Before the 2004 election, several things were known about Bush:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
1. GWB steamrolled because he was still riding the sinking coattails of 9/11 that saw him be the most popular US President for the most extended period of time in modern history.
1) There were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, but WMDs were Bush's justification for war.
2) The U.S. Army was torturing prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison. Iraqi civilians were being killed by the hundreds of thousands.
3) Osama bin Laden had not been captured, but his capture was Bush's justification for war in Afghanistan. Bin Laden was in Pakistan, the next country to the East of Afghanistan, where Obama would kill him on May 2, 2011.
4) Bush had not finished the last two years of his service in the Texas Air National Guard, avoiding service in Vietnam, but President Bush would go to enormous lengths to claim he had not gone AWOL, smearing everyone who said differently. Bush did not fulfill his obligations and should have been ordered to active duty in Vietnam.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush_military_service_controve
rsy#Six-year_service_obligation
Despite points 1, 2, 3, and 4, the worthless assholes who would become Trumptards voted for Bush.
Bush voted for Harris.
The rest of your post is an argument supporting my argument, so thank you.
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Quote:The kind of people who are stupid assholes will not believe that Trump is a rapist, a conman, a convicted criminal, a relentless liar, a man who never paid all of his income taxes. That kind of disbeliever in what is obvious is also the kind who voted for both Bush and Trump.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Bush voted for Harris.
The rest of your post is an argument supporting my argument, so thank you.
(This is a metaphysical comment but people who are obviously stupid assholes do not know they are stupid assholes, which makes it impossible for these stupid assholes to know why life isn't as rewarding as they imagine deserving.)
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Ed Kilgore has clearly lost his mind...
Democrats Were Crushed in 2004, Too. It Didn’t Last Long.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/democrats-were-crushed-in-2004
-too-it-didn-t-last-long/ar-AA1tXOWF
Two problems with your theory there, Eddie...
1. GWB steamrolled because he was still riding the sinking coattails of 9/11 that saw him be the most popular US President for the most extended period of time in modern history.
2. Democrats were crushed by the NeoCons because of 9/11. All of those NeoCons just walked across the aisle and announced to the world they were voting for Harris.
This trash that passes as journalism you have here is nothing but textbook false equivalency.
The kind that AI will be doing in your place soon.
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Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.
Also ...
Since there was a historic, record-breaking discrepancy between exit polls and vote counts, and it only happened in swing states with electronic voting, and always in favor of Bush, statisticians said a chance result would be statistically impossible. They concluded that the RNC cheated, massively.
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Quote:So, are you for or against regulations?
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
All I know is that I've got enough microplastics inside of me to melt down and make a LEGO Millennium Falcon when I get cremated, so somebody at the EPA hasn't been doing their fucking job.
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Quote:Don't assume that bc we worked on salary we did a half-assed job. Our agency won criminal and civil cases worth tens of millions of dollars against large corporations with teams of highly paid lawyers. My dad, who also worked on salary, did the same with tax law. My colleagues and I, if we weren't pro-environment, were extremely professional. We didn't believe in doing half-assed jobs.
SECOND
Signym, you are not Erin Brockovich. Personal injury lawyers could do what your department would never attempt. But then the lawyers became fabulously wealthy, unlike employees in your department who get paid the same piddling amount whether they do a half-ass job or nothing about pollution.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Brockovich#Pacific_Gas_&_Electr
ic_litigation
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SECOND:
Bringing this back around to the tax code, IRS employees make exactly the same piddling amount whether they do a half-ass job or nothing about tax cheating. Unsurprisingly, that is why tax cheating runs to a trillion dollars per year.
No, you're bringing this around to enforcement. Again.
If you think doing a good job is personally motivated by money, you're mistaken.
Organizationally, we were prevented from adding fines to our operating budget. By law.
And who wrote that law?
Business.
So, back to tax code.
Can I deduct food, housing, utilities, insurances, interest payments, and ancillary expenses off my income?
No.
Can I depreciate my home, car, and other assets from my income?
No.
Can I register a domicile in Panama, and declare my "profits" there?
No.
These are just three differences between individual and business taxes, and doesn't get into the thousands of loopholes that BUSINESS wedged into tax law.
If tax code wasn't so lopsided and complicated, it would be easier to enforce. As it is, you need a team of tax law experts and forensic auditors to handle any large business.
It's called regulatory capture.
And you still obviously don't know how the real world works.
Son.
Back on topic ...
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On Wednesday, Donald Trump announced his intent to nominate Republican Congressman Matthew Gaetz to lead the Department of Justice. The congressman’s main experience with the DOJ comes from being investigated for the sex trafficking of a minor.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/11/matt-gaetz-donald-trump-at
torney-general-disaster.html
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Trump has vowed revenge. Start the pardons, President Biden
To the editor: Harry Litman relies on the wisdom of grand juries, juries and judges in protecting the subjects of President-elect Donald Trump's enemies list. However, even unsuccessful prosecutions could bankrupt many innocent "defendants." ("Will Trump launch a reign of terror against his list of enemies? There’s little to stop him," Opinion, Nov. 7)
The easiest way to provide all of "Trump's perceived enemies" with legal (and financial) protection from frivolous prosecution would be for President Biden to compile an enormous list of people to pardon before he leaves office, including prosecutors, judges, journalists, pollsters and others.
Jack Smith, Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger, Adam Schiff, Kamala Harris, additional members and witnesses of the House Jan. 6 Committee and many others come to mind.
This won't eliminate the threats to democracy, but at least it might provide protection for some people.
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/letters-to-the-editor/story/2024-11-13
/trump-has-vowed-revenge-start-the-pardons-president-biden
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Quote:Your words are not sufficient. Prove it. You won't because it does not happen the way you claim it does.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
We didn't believe in doing half-assed jobs.
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Just look up the criminal case the LA Environmental Crimes DA won over Home Depot, with our data. And go suck eggs. Moron.
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Quote:Nope. You prove you are competent rather than a half-ass, lazy government employee avoiding work, except when your superior is breathing down your neck. I won't do for you.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Just look up the criminal case the LA Environmental Crimes DA won over Home Depot, with our data. And go suck eggs. Moron.
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"If the exit polls are roughly accurate, about 19 million people who had voted for [Joe] Biden in 2020 just stayed home," Podhorzer writes. "And, again, if the exits are roughly accurate, nearly all of those who stayed home had said they were voting against Trump when they cast ballots in 2020."
Q: You are digging into the Biden 2020 “surge” voters, the infrequent voters who turned out for him in 2020 and did not turn out this year for Harris or flipped to Trump. Is there anything today that you can tell me about those voters?
A: In both the 2020 and 2024 exits, voters were asked whether their vote was mostly for the candidate they cast their ballot for or against the opponent. It’s really clear with the calculations that I have in there, that Harris pretty much kept those who had said they were voting “for” Biden four years ago, but really tanked with people who had said they were casting their ballot against Trump four years ago. Those people just stayed home. That’s about 20 million people.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/harris-trump-b
iden-why-democratic-turnout-cratered-1235164354/
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Elect a clown, expect a circus: Hegseth, Gaetz, and Gabbard
Hegseth is a surprising pick to lead the most massive military bureaucracy in human history for a few reasons, including his assertion that women should not serve in combat roles; his successful lobbying during the first Trump administration for pardons for convicted and alleged war criminals; his description of “a war on two fronts” -- one against “radical Islamist ideology” and the other against “domestic enemies,” namely, “the Left”; his opposition to the supposed “infection” of left-wing policies in the military; and his assertion a few years ago that “the Iraq War is an example of what America got right when we got it right.”
Asked by one reporter if he thought Gaetz had the character and experience to be attorney general, Mike Simpson (R-Idaho) stared at them incredulously, waited six seconds to answer and then said, again, with a laugh: “Are you shittin’ me, that you asked that question? No. But hell, you’ll print that and now I’ll be investigated.”
After her failed presidential run in 2020, Gabbard left the Democratic Party (she seems to announce doing this at least once a week) and became something of a conservative celebrity, elevating transphobia, spreading Russian propaganda, and unsuccessfully endorsing Republicans.
https://attentiontotheunseen.com/2024/11/13/elect-a-clown-expect-a-cir
cus-hegseth-gaetz-and-gabbard/
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:So, are you for or against regulations?
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
All I know is that I've got enough microplastics inside of me to melt down and make a LEGO Millennium Falcon when I get cremated, so somebody at the EPA hasn't been doing their fucking job.
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I am not. Simply because I don't trust anybody in control of enforcement. Especially not when our system of government can theoretically change overnight every 4 years with a whole new group of people who handle things entirely different than the last group did. How long has the EPA been around? Name one thing they've actually done for anybody other than make manufacturing anything in the USA so cost prohibitive that we just don't do that anymore unless we use more taxpayer dollars to subsidize the work.
And our government's go-to excuse is they aren't spending enough money and they need to keep growing these agencies to enforce laws that are already on the books. And they just keep passing more laws on top of the ones they already aren't enforcing. They're really just there to put the screws to somebody they don't like at this point, when it's so easy to just look the other way when you don't have a problem with them.
It's another shiny example of how something sounds like a good idea until you have human beings in control of it.
These crooked fucks have poisoned everything and continue to poison everything if the money is right.
I'm more worried about them outlawing half the poison they put directly in our foods.
Take a look at a bowl of Fruit Loops in the UK compared to ours. Our bowl of Fruit Loops looks radioactive compared to theirs with all those food dye colors that are banned everywhere else in the world because they're poison.
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Quote:Not for, or not against?
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
All I know is that I've got enough microplastics inside of me to melt down and make a LEGO Millennium Falcon when I get cremated, so somebody at the EPA hasn't been doing their fucking job.
SIGNY: So, are you for or against regulations?
SIX: I am not.
Quote:Are you fucking kidding? Air and water are a lot cleaner now. I hope your lack of knowledge is just bc you're too young to remember how it used to be.
SIX: Simply because I don't trust anybody in control of enforcement. Especially not when our system of government can theoretically change overnight every 4 years with a whole new group of people who handle things entirely different than the last group did. How long has the EPA been around? Name one thing they've actually done for anybody other than make manufacturing anything in the USA so cost prohibitive that we just don't do that anymore unless we use more taxpayer dollars to subsidize the work.
Pollution control costs money, SIX. I've heard chrome platers say it's cheaper for them to ship their small parts to China and have them plated there and ship them back than to meet regulations. And they can spew out a powerful known (i.e. backed by human exposure data) carcinogen. If there was ever a chemical that needed control, that's one.
Every industry we ever regulated, from mom and pop dry cleaners, to national paint and coating manufacturers to oil refineries to household cleaning products manufacturers, has told us the same story. And, while it is sometimes exaggerated, businesses have closed down bc of regulation. Protection is not cost-free and will never be.
So, you want to be protected from microplastics? EPA is prohibited from regulating a chemical unless it's been shown to be harmful. Microplastics is so far down the list of concerns you're asking for the impossible. And if you think that's not right, be prepared to fight everyone from the chemical companies that make the precursors (monomers and oligomers) all the way down to plastic shopping bag manufacturers.
Quote:The real cost isn't keeping the agencies running. You have an exaggerated view. The real cost is to business. Like I said, pollution control costs money.
SIX: And our government's go-to excuse is they aren't spending enough money and they need to keep growing these agencies to enforce laws that are already on the books. And they just keep passing more laws on top of the ones they already aren't enforcing. They're really just there to put the screws to somebody they don't like at this point, when it's so easy to just look the other way when you don't have a problem with them.
It's another shiny example of how something sounds like a good idea until you have human beings in control of it.
These crooked fucks have poisoned everything and continue to poison everything if the money is right.
And it's not the EPA that's poisoning you, SIX. It's industry. Bc they will do whatever, sell whatever, dump whatever, as long as it makes them money.
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SIX: I'm more worried about them outlawing half the poison they put directly in our foods.
Take a look at a bowl of Fruit Loops in the UK compared to ours. Our bowl of Fruit Loops looks radioactive compared to theirs with all those food dye colors that are banned everywhere else in the world because they're poison.
Yanno SIX, regulation would be so simple if agencies could simply say "don't".
Don't lend out more money than you can back with cash in the vault.
Don't sell shit that's bad for people. (BTW the big problem with Fruit Loops is the sugar. )
Don't spew pollution into the air and water and soil.
Don't make single-use, last-forever trash.
Don't put people's sensitive information on vulnerable servers.
Don't be a monopoly.
But then, every industry, every
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All I'm saying Sigs is that everything is poisonous. I don't even worry about my smoking because everything I eat and drink is killing me to. Who cares?
Maybe things would be worse today if the EPA wasn't around. I guess it's nice that I only have 10 years of leaded gas in my body making me only 145 IQ instead of 155, but I've still ingested enough teflon to kill a horse.
I love the idea of the EPA, but our government is shit and it doesn't work.
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Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.
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Quote:Wow! Your life history explained in few words. All Trumptards think they are smarter than everybody, but they have been poisoned/held-back/cheated by elites/government/bankers/environment/family/Mexicans/Chinese.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
All I'm saying Sigs is that everything is poisonous. I don't even worry about my smoking because everything I eat and drink is killing me to. Who cares?
Maybe things would be worse today if the EPA wasn't around. I guess it's nice that I only have 10 years of leaded gas in my body making me only 145 IQ instead of 155, but I've still ingested enough teflon to kill a horse.
I love the idea of the EPA, but our government is shit and it doesn't work.
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Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.
Only Trump can fix it.
“Early Warning Signs of Fascism.”
Based on research of the development of fascist regimes around the world by Laurence W. Britt, who wrote about the subject for the journal Free Inquiry, the list includes 14 items:
1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
2. Disdain For Human Rights
3. Identification of Enemies as a Unifying Cause
4. Supremacy of the Military
5. Rampant Sexism
6. Controlled Mass Media
7. Obsession with National Security
8. Religion and Government Intertwined
9. Corporate Power Protected
10. Labor Power Suppressed
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
14. Fraudulent Elections
https://www.thenation.com/premium/politics/raskin-impeachment-insurrec
tion/
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/holocaust-museum-warning-signs-fasci
sm/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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The Cost-of-Living Crisis Explains Everything
The economy under Biden looked good but felt bad.
By Annie Lowrey | November 11, 2024
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/11/biden-harris-economy
-election-loss/680592/
The Biden administration passed $3 trillion of legislation aimed at revitalizing the American economy and fostering green, equitable, “middle-out” growth. It sent checks to voters, canceled student-loan debt, made direct deposits to parents, showered the country in tax credits, and financed the construction of roads, transmission lines, and bridges. Kamala Harris ran as Joe Biden’s successor in the midst of what some financial analysts described as the greatest economy ever, characterized by strong wage growth, low unemployment, falling inequality, and world-beating GDP.
Harris’s loss has spurred finger-pointing, soul-searching, and garment-rending. For years, thinkers on the left had urged the White House to not just talk about popular issues but also deliver on them—a concept referred to by wonks as deliverism. The Biden-Harris team embraced the idea, and many staffers believed they’d delivered.
Deliverism is just a long word for one of the most basic tenets of electoral politics, buttressed by decades of studies as well as by common sense: Make voters richer, win more of them. Why, if Biden did that, did the Democrats lose?
“When the economy does well for most households, and when programs help create security and opportunity for more people to participate in that economy, political rewards follow,” Mark Schmitt of New America wrote the week before the election, when polls showed the contest as close but likely lost for the liberal side. “What I’m looking for in the 2024 election is some indication of whether this feedback loop still works at all, and if not, whether we can ever hope to recreate some connection” between policy and politics.
Democrats may be tempted now to answer in the negative. But there is a strong case to be made that the 2024 election demonstrates that the feedback loop between policy choices and electoral outcomes does in fact endure—even if it is weakening and weirding. The issue is not that deliverism failed. It is that Democrats convinced themselves that they had delivered, without listening to the voters telling them they had not.
If you look at the headline economic statistics, Donald Trump’s broad-based and definitive win makes little sense. The jobless rate has been below 4.5 percent for three years. The inflation rate has been subdued for more than a year. Real wages—meaning wages adjusted for inflation—are climbing for all workers, and particularly the lowest-income workers. Inequality is easing. The stock market is on fire. Productivity is strong, and start-ups are booming. The United States’ GDP growth rate is double that of the European Union.
The Biden administration helped create that economy. With a narrow legislative window, the administration nevertheless passed a gigantic COVID stimulus bill, the American Rescue Plan. It sent $1,400 checks to millions of families, provided thousands of dollars to parents to defray child-care costs, and shored up local-government coffers.
Then it passed a trio of heavy-infrastructure bills aimed at reshoring the semiconductor industry, transitioning businesses and homes to green energy, and fixing up transportation infrastructure across the country. Biden staffers talked about the trio as a kind of New Deal Lite. Folks might “one day come to remember this as the Big Deal,” Pete Buttigieg, the transportation secretary and eternal political hopeful, told The New Yorker this past summer. “Its bigness is the defining factor.”
Yet one could select other defining factors, among them the infrastructure bills’ lack of easy-to-grasp deliverables. I cover economic policy. I would be hard-pressed to explain what constitutes the Big Deal without putting someone to sleep; when I summarize the legislation, I often say “green-energy stuff.” Moreover, many of those deliverables were not instantaneous; tod
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Wow! Your life history explained in few words.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
All I'm saying Sigs is that everything is poisonous. I don't even worry about my smoking because everything I eat and drink is killing me to. Who cares?
Maybe things would be worse today if the EPA wasn't around. I guess it's nice that I only have 10 years of leaded gas in my body making me only 145 IQ instead of 155, but I've still ingested enough teflon to kill a horse.
I love the idea of the EPA, but our government is shit and it doesn't work.
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Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.
Shut the fuck up with your fascism propaganda, tool.
The Democrat party is dead, and if that's the tactic you're going to take, you're not going to revive it any time soon.
You have an opportunity to learn here. But if you're going to choose instead to just keep going to go around calling more than half the country Nazis, it's going to be a sad, scary world you're living in now that the world you thought you were living in is finally dead.
And it looks like both CNN and MSNBC are going to be purging a lot of people over the next few months, so maybe you won't have them telling you to be an asshole every day.
Check out what Joy Reid said on a TikTok video in the last 48 hours. My guess is she's one of the first major firings for that.
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POPULAR VOTE:
75,870,227 for Trump (50.2%) / 72,856,990 for Harris (48.2%).
Total votes counted: 148,727,217
Trump's lead: 3,013,237
California: 13% left
Oregon: 9% left
Washington D.C.: 8% left
Utah: 7% left
Maryland: 4% left
Alaska: 5% left
Washington: 5% left
New Jersey: 5% left
Colorado: 4% left
New York: 3% left
Arizona: 2% left
Nevada: 2% left
Nebraska: 2% left
Mississippi: 2% left
Compared to the 2020 election:
The 2020 results were 74,223,369 for Trump and 81,282,916 votes for Biden*
The total EXACT vote count in 2020 was 155,506,285.
The total amount of votes less in 2024 compared to 2020 is down to only 6,779,068 now.
Trump now has 1,646,858 more votes than he did in 2020.
Harris now has 8,425,926 less votes than Biden* did in 2020.
NOTE: I don't think that Google's count of California was particularly accurate. Now they're saying that only 13% of California remains, which would only be around 1.78 Million more votes. That would now get us down to only 5 Million less votes than 2020, but when I did the math yesterday for what California had left that would have gotten us down to only 4.3 Million without any votes from other states.
So there will be less votes in 2024 than in 2020, which we already knew there would be. But it may end up being close to 5 Million when I was thinking under 4 Million just yesterday.
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Quote:Look around you, 6ix. A majority of Americans are suffering great difficulties in life because they are goddamn idiots more than half out of their minds. This includes 6ix, you fucking little Nazi who worships Fuhrer Donald Trump:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Shut the fuck up with your fascism propaganda, tool.
The Democrat party is dead, and if that's the tactic you're going to take, you're not going to revive it any time soon.
You have an opportunity to learn here. But if you're going to choose instead to just keep going to go around calling more than half the country Nazis, it's going to be a sad, scary world you're living in now that the world you thought you were living in is finally dead.
6ixStringJack is silly to write the following but what he wrote follows from “Only Trump can fix it (if and when he condescends to solve it).”
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65275&mid=12055
77#1205577
Monday, November 11, 2024 5:32 PM
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
My prediction is that Trump settles the Ukraine/Russia as well as the Israel/Palestine conflicts before he's inaugurated.
Wouldn't it be great if he invited Putin, Zelensky, Netanyahu, Abbas and even have Kim Jong Un around to watch and enjoy the party after the Inauguration?
They seem a lot more open to conversations on all sides now that the screaming kids were sent to their room and Daddy is home.
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Conservative Judge Luttig: American voters ‘do not care’ about Trump’s misdeeds
By Ella Lee - 11/13/24 9:50 PM ET
https://thehill.com/homenews/4989843-conservative-judge-luttig-america
n-voters-do-not-care-about-trumps-misdeeds/
American voters are unfazed by President-elect Trump’s various misdeeds, said retired federal Judge J. Michael Luttig, a longtime conservative jurist who has vocally opposed the former president.
“The American voters do not care about who, as an individual, is in the White House,” Luttig said Wednesday evening during a panel hosted by the Society for the Rule of Law.
“They don’t care, in this instance, what this man has done for the past eight years,” he said. “They could care less that he’s the first American president ever to be indicted for grave crimes against the United States of America…They do not care about his views on women. They do not care about any of this.”
It’s one of many lessons to be learned from the presidential election, he said, explaining that Republicans successfully convinced the American electorate that “nothing mattered” from Trump’s previous term and he ran on a “clean slate.”
“And the American people bought it,” he said. “Hook, line and sinker.”
“For the first time in American history, an American president has corrupted democracy itself and the rule of law in America,” Luttig said Wednesday. “And he got away with it, on Nov. 5, 2024.”
Trump won both the electoral college and popular votes in November’s contests. Luttig called the outcome “terrible for the country.”
“But sometimes people have to learn the hard way,” the retired judge said. “And that’s what’s happening.”
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Look around you, 6ix. A majority of Americans are suffering great difficulties in life because they are goddamn idiots more than half out of their minds. This includes 6ix, you fucking little Nazi who worships Fuhrer Donald Trump:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Shut the fuck up with your fascism propaganda, tool.
The Democrat party is dead, and if that's the tactic you're going to take, you're not going to revive it any time soon.
You have an opportunity to learn here. But if you're going to choose instead to just keep going to go around calling more than half the country Nazis, it's going to be a sad, scary world you're living in now that the world you thought you were living in is finally dead.
6ixStringJack is silly to write the following but what he wrote follows from “Only Trump can fix it (if and when he condescends to solve it).”
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65275&mid=12055
77#1205577
Monday, November 11, 2024 5:32 PMQuote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
My prediction is that Trump settles the Ukraine/Russia as well as the Israel/Palestine conflicts before he's inaugurated.
Wouldn't it be great if he invited Putin, Zelensky, Netanyahu, Abbas and even have Kim Jong Un around to watch and enjoy the party after the Inauguration?
They seem a lot more open to conversations on all sides now that the screaming kids were sent to their room and Daddy is home.
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Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Thank you for bumping my opinions.
They're far more thought out than any of the trite bullshit sloganeering and mindless platitudes about nothing that you shit out all over the place everyday.
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Quote:IMHO fatalism is just an excuse. We're ALL gonna die of something, SIX. If you truly believe it doesn't make any difference what you do, then just stop taking your insulin.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
All I'm saying Sigs is that everything is poisonous. I don't even worry about my smoking because everything I eat and drink is killing me to. Who cares?
Maybe things would be worse today if the EPA wasn't around. I guess it's nice that I only have 10 years of leaded gas in my body making me only 145 IQ instead of 155, but I've still ingested enough teflon to kill a horse.
I love the idea of the EPA, but our government is shit and it doesn't work.
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Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.
Or recognize and accept that you're rationalizing, for whatever reason. You'll think about/do something about some things but not other things of equal importance ... and be honest about it.
FWIW everyone I met from other regional, state, and Federal agencies was an intelligent, honest, and diligent worker. Of course, I only met tech people, and only up to about the manager level. If their agencies were like ours, the higher you went the more crooked it got, and once politicians were involved...
But it's like ICE: the problems start at the top.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:IMHO fatalism is just an excuse. We're ALL gonna die of something, SIX. If you truly believe it doesn't make any difference what you do, then just stop taking your insulin.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
All I'm saying Sigs is that everything is poisonous. I don't even worry about my smoking because everything I eat and drink is killing me to. Who cares?
Maybe things would be worse today if the EPA wasn't around. I guess it's nice that I only have 10 years of leaded gas in my body making me only 145 IQ instead of 155, but I've still ingested enough teflon to kill a horse.
I love the idea of the EPA, but our government is shit and it doesn't work.
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Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.
Not really a fair comparison. Smoking is going to kill me 10 or 20 years or more from now. I'd be dead in a month if I stopped taking insulin.
On a macro-scale, that's exactly how they operate. If any of that stuff killed us immediately or anything close to it, we wouldn't be exposed to it.
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Or recognize and accept that you're rationalizing, for whatever reason. You'll think about/do something about some things but not other things of equal importance ... and be honest about it.
I have nothing to rationalize. I honestly do not want to quit smoking.
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FWIW everyone I met from other regional, state, and Federal agencies was an intelligent, honest, and diligent worker. Of course, I only met tech people, and only up to about the manager level. If their agencies were like ours, the higher you went the more crooked it got, and once politicians were involved...
Well right. Your average worker isn't ambitious enough to be evil. Most are just lazy and self-serving.
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But it's like ICE: the problems start at the top.
Probably not always though.
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Quote:Not the ppl who worked for me. Not the ppl from other agencies that I met. And, since we rotated ppl thru thru sections, sooner or later everyone passed thru my group. Out of a staff of 6-14 people, at various times I did have some problem people. One was really ill, one was drinking and just a tad oppositional, one had ADHD (he really, really needed some chemical help. Analysis requires ppl to pay attention for long periods of time). One was a Hispanic snowflake, sensitive as all shit... she filed 29 complaints in HR against against a wide variety of people! As a group, the Taiwanese ladies from the upper crust were entitled, but Thai and Burmese weren't.
Most are just lazy and self-serving.
But overall I got good work out of everyone except Mr ADHD. His problem was ...is stil.. intrinsic and uncorrected.
It IS very, very hard to fire people. The process is ridiculously long and complicated. But if you cross t's and dot i's you can get all the way thru. I did.
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Quote:It is straightforward to fire people on construction projects. Suppose you don't, and I have seen projects where they weren't fired because of softhearted concerns about the families of worthless craftsmen and subcontractors who couldn't keep a promise even if they tried hard. In those cases, the projects bog down, go years beyond schedule, and are far over budget, which happens all the time on government-run projects.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It IS very, very hard to fire people. The process is ridiculously long and complicated. But if you cross t's and dot i's you can get all the way thru. I did.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Researchers at the Peterson Institute for International Economics estimate that if Trump succeeds in deporting 8 million people, U.S. GDP would contract by more than 7 percent by 2028. Mass deportations would also likely trigger another round of inflation—the Peterson report believes that it could add up to 3 percent on top of whatever the baseline is.
https://www.piie.com/blogs/realtime-economics/2024/mass-deportations-w
ould-harm-us-economy
The Yale Budget Lab estimates more than 5 percent inflation from the more extreme versions of Trump’s tariff scenarios.
https://budgetlab.yale.edu/research/fiscal-macroeconomic-and-price-est
imates-tariffs-under-both-non-retaliation-and-retaliation
Trump has very strong incentives to do what he always does: claim victory despite not actually getting anywhere near achieving his goals. The best thing Trump could do for himself is to do nothing but claim he succeeded.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/11/trump-economy-immigration-
deportations-tariffs.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by second:Quote:It is straightforward to fire people on construction projects. Suppose you don't, and I have seen projects where they weren't fired because of softhearted concerns about the families of worthless craftsmen and subcontractors who couldn't keep a promise even if they tried hard. In those cases, the projects bog down, go years beyond schedule, and are far over budget, which happens all the time on government-run projects.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It IS very, very hard to fire people. The process is ridiculously long and complicated. But if you cross t's and dot i's you can get all the way thru. I did.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
SECOND once again reveals that he doesn't understand how the real world works.
Unfortunately, government projects today aren't initiated to actually do anything, they're just there to throw money to some preferred contractors/ businesses. And they get tangled up in DEI/ small contractor/ minority -veteran- woman owned considerations, so the best company for a job doesn't get selected.
Look at Build Back Better AKA Inflation Reduction Act.
Quote:Have we measurably improved our energy sustainability, or improved living standards or added jobs in depressed rural communities?
Since the start of the Biden-Harris Administration, USDA has invested more than $2.7 billion through REAP in 9,901 renewable energy and energy efficiency improvements. Almost 7,000 of these projects were funded by over $1 billion provided by the Inflation Reduction Act.
And what about push to EV? Does that really reduce CO2 emissions? This is just a grab-bag of kneejerk projects designed to appease important Congresspeople. We don't have a well thought-out program to ... for example... capture the methane that we're currently flaring and use it to replace coal burning power stations.
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Adam Kinzinger crying, still having hissy fits
Remember when Adam Kinzinger was so fucking stupid that he thought a troll comedian Sam Hyde was the Ghost of Kyiv and was shooting down all the Russians and winning Top Gun style.
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illegal immigrants and crime
Murdered nursing student Laken Riley’s horrifying 911 call played in court — leaving her mom in a flood of tears
https://nypost.com/2024/11/15/us-news/murdered-nursing-student-laken-r
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Adam Kinzinger crying, still having hissy fits
Remember when Adam Kinzinger was so fucking stupid that he thought a troll comedian Sam Hyde was the Ghost of Kyiv and was shooting down all the Russians and winning Top Gun style.
I'd heard the name Sam Hyde a few times over the years. It wasn't until I saw a video about the whole thing a few months ago that I knew what it was all about. What a joke.
Seems kind of crazy in retrospect how deep they went into Sam's life, several times over the same photo years apart, but we find out they knew all about these wackjob tranny school shooters but they just let that shit happen over and over again.
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POPULAR VOTE:
76,077,170 for Trump (50.1%) / 73,145,999 votes for Harris (48.2%).
Total votes counted: 149,223,169
Trump's lead: 2,931,171
California: 11% left
Oregon: 5% left
Washington D.C.: 2% left
Utah: 7% left
Maryland: 4% left
Alaska: 5% left
Washington: 5% left
New Jersey: 5% left
Colorado: 3% left
New York: 3% left
Illinois: 2% left
Arizona: 2% left
Nebraska: 2% left
Mississippi: 2% left
Compared to the 2020 election:
The 2020 results were 74,223,369 for Trump and 81,282,916 votes for Biden*
The total EXACT vote count in 2020 was 155,506,285.
The total amount of votes less in 2024 compared to 2020 is down to only 6,283,116 now.
Trump now has 1,853,801 more votes than he did in 2020.
Harris now has 8,136,917 less votes than Biden* did in 2020.
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No real movement in the House seats today. California is slow walking their last 4.
I think it's pretty safe to say the Alaska seat goes Republican and the Maine seat goes Democrat. There may be a recount in Maine it's so tight. 99% counted right now and they still haven't called it with a .5% lead by the Democrat.
I think Republicans will get 1 of the last 4 California seats (D13). Virtual tie in another one of them with 50% each at 90% of the vote counted in District 45.
Republicans should have 220. Maybe they eek out 221.
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So how is Democracy doing guys? It's still alive, right? Did the sun still rise today?
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POPULAR VOTE:
76,398,185 for Trump (50.1%) / 73,688,756 votes for Harris (48.3%).
Total votes counted: 150,086,941
Trump's lead: 2,709,429
California: 7% left (Just shy of 1.1 Million votes left)
Oregon: 4% left
Washington D.C.: 2% left
Utah: 4% left
Maryland: 3% left
Alaska: 4% left
Washington: 4% left
New Jersey: 5% left
Colorado: 3% left
New York: 3% left
Illinois: 2% left
Arizona: 2% left
Nebraska: 2% left
Mississippi: 2% left
Compared to the 2020 election:
The 2020 results were 74,223,369 for Trump and 81,282,916 votes for Biden*
The total EXACT vote count in 2020 was 155,506,285.
The total amount of votes less in 2024 compared to 2020 is down to only 5,419,344 now.
Trump now has 2,174,816 more votes than he did in 2020.
Harris now has 7,594,160 less votes than Biden* did in 2020.
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
No real movement in the House seats today. California is slow walking their last 4.
I think it's pretty safe to say the Alaska seat goes Republican and the Maine seat goes Democrat. There may be a recount in Maine it's so tight. 99% counted right now and they still haven't called it with a .5% lead by the Democrat.
I think Republicans will get 1 of the last 4 California seats (D13). Virtual tie in another one of them with 50% each at 90% of the vote counted in District 45.
Republicans should have 220. Maybe they eek out 221.
2 of the 4 California seats that I figured would go Democrat have and so did the seat in Maine.
Alaska tightened up, but with 98% counted the Republican is still leading by 3 points. This probably should have been called for Republicans already. It will soon.
The two in California are way too close to call. 50/50 split still in D45 with 90% counted. 50.6 R / 49.4 D in D13 with 87% counted.
I think the most likely scenario now is 221 R / 214 D.
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Filmmaker Michael Moore slammed all of America as “not a good people” following President-elect Donald Trump’s election win over Kamala Harris.
Falling quiet in the days since Trump’s decisive election win, Moore broke his silence by lashing out at his fellow Americans in a Substack post.
“If you stop and think about it, we’ve come up with a lot of doozies in our history. Like the genocide of 20 million Native Americans. Or the enslavement of 12 million kidnapped Africans. Or us invading Vietnam and killing 4 million Asian people for no reason at all. We are not a good people.”
“We have a non-stop cavalcade, a sordid laundry list of evil deeds that led us directly to last week, to the point where we the people, by popular vote, elected a 34-time convicted felon, a fascist, and a civilly charged and convicted sexual abuser to be our 47th president of the United States.”
https://www.michaelmoore.com/p/hey-if-you-can-kill-20-million-native
Poor Michael Moore lumps all Americans into one group. I guess Moore lost track of how one particular group, the Trumptards, have always been anxiety filled, going back to childhood. If he delved into the numbers he's see it is these particular Americans, not all, who waste their lives in silly ways, hour by hour, day after day, for decades, until they drop dead early from the many stupid decisions fearful people made because what else could they do? They lack the purposefulness and grit that successful Americans have.
But there are other opinions about why Trump won.
"I want to remind everyone that only about 3% of the electorate switched from D to R this year—less in swing states. So regardless of whether you think the culprit was cultural issues or the economy or misogyny or Latino defections or a bad campaign—no matter which it is, it only had to influence 2-3% of the voting public."
https://jabberwocking.com/the-3-solution/
If Michael Moore dug even deeper, he'd see that Americans regularly flip back-and-forth, dithering and blithering: "These things tend to be thermostatic. After a few years people get tired of whichever ideology is ascendant and switch to the other one for a while."
https://jabberwocking.com/the-choice-between-two-scary-extremes-is-usu
ally-a-move-to-the-right/
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But there are other opinions about why Trump won.
"I want to remind everyone that only about 3% of the electorate switched from D to R this year—less in swing states. So regardless of whether you think the culprit was cultural issues or the economy or misogyny or Latino defections or a bad campaign—no matter which it is, it only had to influence 2-3% of the voting public."
https://jabberwocking.com/the-3-solution/
But Kevin Drum is a much bigger idiot by comparison.
USA Today would beg to differ with his 3% theory.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/graphics/2024/11/15/how-did-america-vot
e-2024-election-analysis/76292995007/
Maybe Kevin should look at the Popular Vote. That doesn't happen with a 3% change in a couple of counties.
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POPULAR VOTE:
76,429,164 for Trump (50.1%) / 73,736,923 votes for Harris (48.3%).
Total votes counted: 150,166,087
Trump's lead: 2,692,241
California: 7% left (Just shy of 1.1 Million votes left)
New Jersey: 5% left
Utah: 4% left
Oregon: 4% left
Washington: 3% left
Colorado: 3% left
New York: 3% left
Illinois: 2% left
Nebraska: 2% left
Mississippi: 2% left
Maryland: 2% left
Alaska: 2% left
Washington D.C.: 2% left
Compared to the 2020 election:
The 2020 results were 74,223,369 for Trump and 81,282,916 votes for Biden*
The total EXACT vote count in 2020 was 155,506,285.
The total amount of votes less in 2024 compared to 2020 is down to only 5,340,198 now.
Trump now has 2,205,795 more votes than he did in 2020.
Harris now has 7,545,993 less votes than Biden* did in 2020.
It must be another holiday in California. Looks like any of the votes counted in the last 24 hours came outside of California. That's why they've only counted about 80,000 of the remaining 1 to 1.5 Million votes since the last update.
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MSNBC can't even get 75k people watching in prime time right now.
Time to fire Joy Reid and Rachel Maddow.
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‘The Penguin’ Finale And ‘The Batman’ Are Saying The Same Thing
(Trump could be a Super-Villain and his Trumptards are fooled by him)
HBO’s ‘The Penguin’ (starring Colin Farrell, Cristin Milioti and Rhenzy Feliz) is a cocktail of wealth inequality, narcissism and misplaced rage, just like ‘The Batman.’
By Dani Di Placido | Nov 12, 2024, 08:00pm EST
https://www.forbes.com/sites/danidiplacido/2024/11/12/the-penguin-and-
the-batman-share-the-same-theme/
The Penguin follows Colin Farrell’s titular crime boss as he grows into his traditional supervillain role, climbing the greasy, blood-stained ladder of organized crime to the very top.
The Penguin is a spin-off from Matt Reeves’ The Batman, and the two explore similar themes, featuring self-serving villains who believe they are acting in the interests of the working class.
This incarnation of Batman is concerned with the question of wealth inequality, and his antagonists cloak their true motives under a veil of righteous anger.
Or, as Robert Pattinson’s Batman puts it, “vengeance.”
Spoilers Ahead for ‘The Penguin’ and ‘The Batman’
‘The Batman’ Is About Misplaced Anger
The Batman establishes Bruce Wayne as an emotionally damaged vigilante, beating up street thugs to avenge his murdered parents, a man who lives to inflict violence on those he deems deserving.
The film follows Batman as he collects clues from Paul Dano’s Riddler, a serial killer who is murdering Gotham’s corrupt, wealthy elite. This version of Batman is still young, and the Riddler (along with Zoë Kravitz’s Catwoman) give him an education on the real source of the rot that infects Gotham.
Batman comes to understand that the institutions of Gotham are hopelessly corrupt, and he has been blinded from seeing it because of his billionaire upbringing.
In fact, Batman almost misses the Riddler’s final clue, as the weapon Riddler used to murder Gotham’s mayor was a carpet tucker, a tool Batman did not recognize, as he has never worked with his hands.
Once Batman was informed of the tool’s purpose, he was able to tear up the carpet, revealing the Riddler’s plan to explode Gotham’s seawall and flood the city in a “righteous” purge.
At this point in the film, Batman’s belief system has been shattered by the revelation that the Riddler was inspired by his costumed vigilantism, and believed they were on the same team.
Batman is forced to conclude that beating the snot out of muggers was not a solution to anything—he was really doing it for himself.
The film ends with Batman understanding that he needs to help the needy people of Gotham, not just punish petty criminals.
The Riddler Is An Angry Populist
The Riddler reflects and contrasts with Batman, having grown up an orphan, just like Bruce Wayne.
Unlike Bruce, the Riddler grew up in squalor, and was radicalized by the suffering of Gotham’s orphans, knowing that the city officials were redirecting funds away from public services to fill their own pockets.
The Riddler actually had a deeper understanding of the issues plaguing Gotham, but used righteous anger to justify his sickening acts of violence.
The Riddler claims to represent the working class (and even has a streaming channel where he radicalizes other angry young men), but his goal is to flood the city in an act of environmental terrorism, condemning the citizens to injury, struggle and death.
We see the aftermath of this in The Penguin, when Vic (Rhenzy Feliz) suffers the loss of his family, as his district is flooded by the Riddler’s careless destruction.
The Riddler may have experienced the depravity of Gotham’s failing institutions, but he has no real solutions—only grand, narcissistic acts of violence.
The Penguin Is Also An Angry Populist
The Penguin has much in common with the Riddler, having come from humble beginnings, spending his life being overlooked, or outright mocked. He is disabled, and his family needs to collaborate with the mob just to make ends meet.
However, Oz Cobb (Colin Farrell) doesn’t suffer a terrible ho
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Quote:I'm guessing you have been manipulated since you were a tiny boy without being aware. Somebody paints a picture ("America has never been worse than today", a paraphrase of every sentence Trump speaks) and you believe Trump speaks "Truth" because your life is a fucked up mess since the time you were a tiny boy. That is the whole story in The Penguin. The Penguin convinces his gang of criminals that things have never been worse in America than right now. What else can the gang do other than burn everything to the ground, per the Penguin's orders? It would be an improvement! The Penguin promises "I alone can fix it." Sounds like Trump.
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‘The Penguin’ Finale And ‘The Batman’ Are Saying The Same Thing
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Wow. That's deep, bruh.
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Truth Social, Late Calls Take Over Economists’ Lives Under Trump
By Katia Dmitrieva | November 17, 2024 at 4:00PM EST
Trump has yet to be sworn in — that’s not until Jan. 20 — let alone announce policies and steer them through Congress. That means some economists are asking a lot of “what-ifs” but aren’t jettisoning their current forecasts just yet.
“It is critical not to get caught up in the noise and drama,” said Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody’s Analytics. “It is always important to focus on what policymakers do, and not necessarily on what they say. That was certainly the case in President Trump’s first term, and I suspect will be even more the case in his second.”
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/investing/2024/11/17/truth-social-late-cal
ls-take-over-economists-lives-under-trump/
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‘The Penguin’ Finale And ‘The Batman’ Are Saying The Same Thing
(Trump could be a Super-Villain and his Trumptards are fooled by him)
Wow. That's deep, bruh.
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You'd know a lot about manipulating tiny boys, wouldn't you?
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Quote:I hang out with Trumptards. For them, things just don't go the better way that things go calmly, rationally, habitually for people who face life in ways that are nothing like a Trumptard's long-term quest for failure and disappointment. (That's why Trumptards smoke, drink, over-eat, over-spend, etc. It is their quest.) Specifically, Trumptards have demons living in their heads. Trump knows that very well because he is living with demons.
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You'd know a lot about manipulating tiny boys, wouldn't you?
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*yawn*
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Quote:6ix, you are a shithead. That's reality for your kind. That's why you act the way you do and you get crappy results. Voting for Trump is just one more shitty thing you did to ruin yourself.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
*yawn*
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No, Trump is not on the side of blue-collar workers
Oh come on:
Do we really have to play this game? Trump's appeal to the working class isn't based on the economy. It's based on cultural hot buttons and resentment of elites. Is this even controversial? I doubt that even blue-collar workers themselves would disagree.
As president, Trump will:
• Raise tariffs, which hurt the working and middle classes.
• Appoint union busters to every possible position.
• Cut taxes on corporations and the rich.
• Try to repeal Obamacare, which primarily helps the poor and working classes.
• Try to repeal the IRA and CHIPS Acts, which provide lots of blue-collar jobs.
• Fail to follow through on his promise to eliminate income tax on tips, overtime, Social Security, etc.
• Do his best to roll back regulations on workplace safety, consumer protection, and financial ripoffs.
• Appoint conservative judges who routinely favor corporations over consumers.
I'm sure I'm missing some things, but it doesn't matter. The notion that Trump is on the side of workers is laughable. What's the point of pretending?
https://jabberwocking.com/no-trump-is-not-on-the-side-of-blue-collar-w
orkers/
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Officials from the justice department and FBI have begun consulting lawyers amid fears that they will be prosecuted when Donald Trump returns to the White House, it has been reported.
The concerns have been driven by Trump’s vows to seek “retribution” against members of a “deep state” that he claims deliberately set out to undermine him when he was president and falsely alleges was weaponised against him after he left office.
They have been intensified by the president-elect’s nomination of the rightwing former Florida congressman Matt Gaetz as attorney general, a position that would put him in charge of the justice department and America’s federal law enforcement agencies.
Gaetz – who himself underwent a two-year FBI investigation into sex-trafficking allegations that ended without charges – was chosen after reportedly telling Trump that he would “go over there and start cuttin’ fuckin’ heads”. He had previously called for “a full-court press against this WEAPONIZED government” in a social media post.
“If that means abolishing every one of the three letter agencies, from the FBI to the ATF [Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives] I’m ready to get going!” he continued.
A former senior justice department official who served during Trump’s first presidency said the choice of Gaetz was a mark of the incoming president’s seriousness about seeking payback against those he believed had wronged him.
“He needs to be able to control the department, which he can do through a loyal [attorney general] beholden to him,” the former official said. “[Gaetz] understands that he owes everything to Trump, who can protect Gaetz as well through his pardon power. Trump is confident that Gaetz will do whatever Trump tells him to do.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/18/trump-gaetz-justice-fb
i-retribution
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Republicans take aim at Medicaid
If Republicans are looking for spending cuts to offset their huge tax cuts, the only big pot of money plausibly open to them is Medicaid. Guess what?
President-elect Donald Trump’s economic advisers and congressional Republicans have begun preliminary discussions about making significant changes to Medicaid, food stamps and other federal safety net programs to offset the enormous cost of extending Trump’s 2017 tax cuts next year.
....House Budget Committee Chair Jodey Arrington (R-Texas) told reporters Wednesday that a “responsible and reasonable work requirement” for Medicaid benefits resembling the one that already exists for food stamps could yield about $100 billion in savings. He also said another $160 billion in reduced costs could come from checking Medicaid eligibility more than once per year.
....Republicans have long denied that they are trying to reduce benefits for low-income Americans on either Medicaid or food stamps.
"Republicans have long denied." Ha ha. That's hilarious. Of course they want to reduce Medicaid and food stamps. Poor people are not a constituency they give a shit about.
The only good news here is that Arrington is presumably talking about 10-year savings, which means his Medicaid proposals come to about $26 billion a year. That's not huge even if they go through with it. Medicaid may be the only big pot of money around, but even it's nowhere near big enough to pay for their stupendous, budget-busting tax cuts for the rich.
https://jabberwocking.com/republicans-take-aim-at-medicaid/
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POPULAR VOTE:
76,479,422 for Trump (50.0%) / 73,837,136 votes for Harris (48.3%).
Total votes counted: 150,316,558
Trump's lead: 2,642,286
California: 7% left (Just shy of 1.1 Million votes left)
Oregon: 4% left
Utah: 3% left
Colorado: 3% left
New York: 3% left
Washington: 2% left
Mississippi: 2% left
Maryland: 2% left
Alaska: 2% left
Compared to the 2020 election:
The 2020 results were 74,223,369 for Trump and 81,282,916 votes for Biden*
The total EXACT vote count in 2020 was 155,506,285.
The total amount of votes less in 2024 compared to 2020 is down to only 5,189,727 now.
Trump now has 2,256,053 more votes than he did in 2020.
Harris now has 7,445,780 less votes than Biden* did in 2020.
This is two days in a row now where it look like none of the counting has come from California. Several states have finally finished counting and are now officially off the list.
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House is at 220 R / 213 D now.
The pickup was the Alaska seat I said would go R. The last two are the California districts that were toss ups.
The Republican is up +1.2 with 87% counted in D13. There is still a 50/50 tie with 91% counted in D45.
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How ‘comrade’ Tulsi Gabbard became a favorite of Russia’s state media
November 18, 2024
In 2017, when she was still a Democratic member of Congress, Tulsi Gabbard traveled to Syria and met the country’s authoritarian president, Bashar al-Assad. She also accused the United States of supporting terrorists there.
The day after Vladimir V. Putin began a full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022, Ms. Gabbard blamed the United States and NATO for provoking the war by ignoring Russia’s security concerns.
She has since suggested that the United States covertly worked with Ukraine on dangerous biological pathogens and was culpable for the bombing of the Nord Stream gas pipeline from Russia to Germany in September 2022. European prosecutors and U.S. officials say that sabotage was carried out by Ukrainian operatives.
Ms. Gabbard’s comments have earned her sharp rebukes from officials across the political spectrum in Washington, who have accused her of parroting the anti-American propaganda of the country’s adversaries. Her remarks have also made her a darling of the Kremlin’s vast state media apparatus — and, more recently, of President-elect Donald J. Trump, who this week picked her to oversee the nation’s 18 intelligence agencies and departments.
Her nomination as the director of national intelligence has raised alarms among national security officials, not only because of her lack of experience in intelligence but also because she has embraced a worldview that mirrors disinformation straight out of the Kremlin’s playbook.
No evidence has emerged that she has ever collaborated in any way with Russia’s intelligence agencies. Instead, according to analysts and former officials, Ms. Gabbard seems to simply share the Kremlin’s geopolitical views, especially when it comes to the exercise of American military power.
In Russia, the reaction to her potential appointment has been gleeful, even if Mr. Putin’s government remains wary of American policies, even under a second Trump administration.
“The C.I.A. and the F.B.I. are trembling,” Komsomolskaya Pravda, a Russian newspaper, wrote on Friday in a glowing profile of Ms. Gabbard, noting, positively, that Ukrainians consider her “an agent of the Russian state.” Rossiya-1, a state television channel, called her a Russian “comrade” in Mr. Trump’s emerging cabinet.
https://attentiontotheunseen.com/2024/11/18/how-comrade-tulsi-gabbard-
became-a-favorite-of-russias-state-media/
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Congratulations America. You got back with your ex who is supposed to be in prison.
Dear ‘Undecided’ and ‘Both Sides are Evil’ voters,
“I don’t do politics”
Well baby, politics is going to do you, regardless.
Voting 101: Nine people on a bus. Three vote to drive over a cliff. Two vote to go get ice cream. Four don’t bother to vote. Everyone dies.
Like it or not, you're on the bus with everyone else. Make your voice heard.
The Harm-Reduction approach means:
• It’s not always about the ice cream
• The people abstaining for moral purity reasons ("I’d only vote for a VEGAN ice cream parlor!”) are functionally equivalent to those abstaining because they are okay with either option
• The ice cream not being very good does NOT mean driving off the cliff is somehow better
https://www.tumblr.com/mckitterick/tagged/let%27s%20not%20drive%20the%
20world%20off%20a%20cliff%20mkay%3F
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American voters gave Donald Trump a solid win on Election Day. But they didn’t give him a wrecking ball to destroy the country’s military and intelligence agencies.
That’s what’s so scary about Trump’s nominations of Pete Hegseth and Tulsi Gabbard as secretary of defense and director of national intelligence, respectively. Neither is remotely qualified for two of the most important management jobs in government. They’re polemicists and ideologues — wreckers, to be blunt, rather than builders. If confirmed, they would do more to doom Trump’s presidency than Democrats ever could.
Trump is a disrupter, and this latest set of nominations (including Matt Gaetz for attorney general) has shown that he hopes to overturn what he imagines as the “deep state.” Trump’s bark was worse than his bite during his first term. But now he is gathering a war cabinet for what seems to be a serious assault on the leadership of the military and the intelligence community.
Hegseth’s nomination is especially dangerous. On Fox News, he has made a career out of denouncing the senior military leaders he would direct as defense secretary. His recent book, “The War on Warriors,” includes personal attacks on Gen. Charles Q. Brown Jr., chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and Adm. Lisa Franchetti, chief of naval operations. He smears them, in effect, as diversity hires.
“The Left captured the military quickly, and we must reclaim it at a faster pace. We must wage a frontal assault,” Hegseth writes. He describes what he regards as the current military ethos with an imaginary call to arms, “We will not stop until trans-lesbian black females run everything!” This is crazy nonsense.
Hegseth won’t be running a Fox talk show if he’s confirmed. He will have absolute power to fire any general officer who doesn’t meet Trump’s political standards. The Wall Street Journal reports that the transition team is already drafting an executive order for a “warrior board” to recommend generals and admirals for dismissal. A Journal editorial Thursday sounded the right warning: “The military isn’t Mr. Trump’s enemy, and a purge mentality will court political trouble and demoralize the ranks.”
Loose talk about court-martialing retired Gen. Mark A. Milley, former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, adds to the poisonous atmosphere. Milley is a target because he stood up to bullying from Trump and his supporters.
https://attentiontotheunseen.com/2024/11/18/trumps-national-security-w
recking-crew/
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The Death of American Modesty and Character
Posted on Tuesday, Nov 19, 2024 6:00AM by Mark Harvey
https://3quarksdaily.com/3quarksdaily/2024/11/the-death-of-american-mo
desty-and-character.html
There are much better theories of how a president is chosen and many of them have to do with perceptions, the subconscious, and the zeitgeist at the time. In their book Implicit Leadership Theories: Essays and Explorations, Robert G. Lord and Ruth Kanfer argue that leaders are often chosen based on prototypes of what voters think a leader should look like. Furthermore, they say that people choose leaders based on mental shortcuts (schemas, or heuristics, to use a technical term). In choosing a candidate, it’s far easier to forego analyzing all of the complex issues of the times and make a choice based on a very simple impression or prototype of what a candidate represents.
I’ve watched too many of those silly “man-on-the-street” or vox populi interviews of why a person was going to choose Trump for president. The answers invariably include that “he’s a good businessman and he’ll run the country like a business.” The red tie, the boxy suit, and of course thirteen years on The Apprentice making great displays of firing people in a contrived boardroom offer a very nice heuristic for “good businessman.” But anyone with even a faint interest in his business accomplishments would realize that he managed to go through four bankruptcies in his New Jersey casinos alone. Somehow the failed Trump steaks, vodka, airlines, and university barely made a dent in his persona as shrewd businessman.
Another of our great generals, Dwight Eisenhower exhibited some of the same unassuming characteristics as Washington. Eisenhower grew up in the dusty cattle town of Abilene, Kansas. His journey to become Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces and saving Europe from the Nazis was unlikely, but he seemed to have remembered his modest beginnings.
Counseling Louis Mountbatten, the allied commander in southeast Asia during World War II, on how to be a good leader, Eisenhower wrote,
He must be self-effacing, quick to give credit, ready to meet the other fellow more than half way, must seek and absorb advice…take full blame for anything that goes wrong; in fact he must be quick to take the blame for anything that goes wrong whether or not it results from his mistake or from an error on the part of a subordinate.
That philosophy in today’s America might be construed as weak even though Eisenhower oversaw the greatest war effort in human history. He was revered worldwide and even before WW II ended, he was awarded Knight Grand Cross of the Order of the British Empire by the King of England. It’s easy to imagine him being smeared in today’s scummy political climate and even being cast as a communist. For Eisenhower supported the right to unionize and said, “Only a fool would try to deprive working men and women of their right to join the union of their choice.” He also prevented men from his own party from dismantling Social Security.
The heuristic or schema of Eisenhower would be that of the quiet warrior, unsung hero, or silent sentinel. In other words, with today’s lust for self-aggrandizement, he wouldn’t stand a chance of being elected.
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It’s one thing to be unhappy with your lot in life, your country, and the way things are headed. And millions of Americans are truly struggling in a country with huge disparities of income. But it’s altogether irresponsible to vote for someone who is going to make your life worse just because he has the cheap facade of a businessman. Whether you have preexisting medical conditions, trouble paying for groceries, a daughter who may someday have a septic pregnancy, or a concern with that most existential threat––climate change––the policies espoused by Trump and his proposed cabinet will make your life sadder and sorrier.
During one of Adlai Stevenson’s campaigns, a woman yelled, “Every thinking person will be voting for you!” Perhaps prophesying today’s America, Stevenson replied, “That’s not enough, madam, we need a majority.”
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Trump campaigned on mass deportations. Now he’s threatening to use the U.S. military to carry them out.
By Nick Turse | November 19 2024, 12:23 p.m.
https://theintercept.com/2024/11/19/trump-deportation-plan-military/
There are an estimated 13 million undocumented immigrants living in the U.S. A onetime mass deportation operation would cost at least $315 billion, according to a recent analysis from the American Immigration Council. A longer-term project involving arrests, processing, and deportations would cost around $968 billion over more than 10 years. The report emphasizes that this is a “highly conservative” estimate. It does not take into account the likelihood that this deportation operation of 13 million people would require the construction and staffing of detention facilities on a scale that dwarfs the current U.S. prison system, which held 1.9 million people all told in 2022 — let alone the effect of removing an estimated 5 percent of the American workforce from the country, who collectively pay over $105 billion in taxes each year.
Trump’s spokespeople did not respond to The Intercept’s request for more details on the cost of the plan or exactly how the military would be employed in the deportation process before publication.
During his first term, Trump deported about 1.5 million immigrants, according to an analysis by the Migration Policy Institute. The Biden administration is on pace to match that number.
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Trump chooses quack TV doctor to run Medicare
Not counting himself, this makes three TV hosts in Trump's cabinet (Hegseth, Duffy, Oz)
Yesterday Trump chose former MTV "Real World" host and current Fox host Sean Duffy to be his Transportation Secretary. Today it's this:
Not counting himself, this makes three TV hosts in Trump's cabinet (Hegseth, Duffy, Oz) plus a bevy of other folks with proven chops on Fox. At least Trump is consistent about what he wants.
https://jabberwocking.com/trump-chooses-quack-tv-doctor-to-run-medicar
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Not counting himself, this makes three TV hosts in Trump's cabinet (Hegseth, Duffy, Oz)
And if you guys had your way, this country would be run by the gals on The View.
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During his first term, Trump deported about 1.5 million immigrants, according to an analysis by the Migration Policy Institute. The Biden administration is on pace to match that number.
That only sounds impressive for the Biden/Harris administration when you neglect to mention the fact that 10 times as many illegals entered the country during their time in control than during the Trump administration.
Also, there are WAY more illegal alien invaders in the US than 13 Million right now. We're lucky if it was only 13 Million BEFORE Joe Biden* was inaugurated.
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There are an estimated 13 million undocumented immigrants living in the U.S. A onetime mass deportation operation would cost at least $315 billion, according to a recent analysis from the American Immigration Council. A longer-term project involving arrests, processing, and deportations would cost around $968 billion over more than 10 years. The report emphasizes that this is a “highly conservative” estimate. It does not take into account the likelihood that this deportation operation of 13 million people would require the construction and staffing of detention facilities on a scale that dwarfs the current U.S. prison system, which held 1.9 million people all told in 2022 — let alone the effect of removing an estimated 5 percent of the American workforce from the country, who collectively pay over $105 billion in taxes each year.
It doesn't need to cost anything close this. Even if it did, it will pay for itself almost immediately since we won't be funding illegals anymore.
All Trump needs to do is tell any govorners of states with sanctuary cities that ALL Federal funding to the state for every program ends immediately until they work to remove the illegals themselves. No more housing, school, food or medical care for anyone without a SS#, including their kids.
The problem takes care of itself.
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POPULAR VOTE:
76,587,122 for Trump (50.0%) / 73,981,301 votes for Harris (48.3%).
Total votes counted: 150,568,423
Trump's lead: 2,605,821
States with votes left to count (States below 99% according to Google's map)
California: 4% left
Oregon: 4% left
Utah: 2% left
Colorado: 3% left
New York: 3% left
Washington: 2% left
Mississippi: 2% left
Maryland: 2% left
Compared to the 2020 election:
The 2020 results were 74,223,369 for Trump and 81,282,916 votes for Biden*
The total EXACT vote count in 2020 was 155,506,285.
The total amount of votes less in 2024 compared to 2020 is down to only 4,937,862 now.
Trump now has 2,363,753 more votes than he did in 2020.
Harris now has 7,301,615 less votes than Biden* did in 2020.
Finally winding down here. I'd say there's less than 1 Million votes left to count.
We're now officially less than 5 Million votes under the 2020 popular vote count. This is 1/3rd of what the YouTube idiots were claiming the week after election day.
HOUSE:
We're still at 220 R / 213 D. The only two still remaining are D13 and D45 in California and they haven't changed in several days. Both are extremely tight and around 90% counted. The Republican has a 1.2% lead in D13 and we're still tied exactly 50/50 in D45.
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Harris literally just passed 74 million votes before writing this, with a current vote count of 74,003,503.
With Trump at 76,618,459 and only the small percentage points left to count in the states I listed in the previous post, Harris breaking 74 Million might be our last million vote barrier crossed for either side.
It's still possible that Trump cracks 77 Million, but with the bulk of the remaining uncounted votes being the 4% that California still needs to count, I'm not sure if there is another 381.5k Trump votes left to count.
ETA: Nah... On second thought I'm going to call that Trump gets more than 77 Million when it's all counted up.
That 3% in New York that remains shouldn't be neglected. A lot less votes in NY than in California, but Harris only has a 12 point lead in NY vs the roughly 21 point lead she has in California.
Assuming that Google's map is at least somewhere in the ballpark of accurate, there should be plenty of votes left to get Trump over 77 Million.
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Anybody have any idea WTF is up with Mississippi?
Alaska finally finished their count yesterday or the day before, as did Arizona, but Mississippi has been stuck at 98% since day one. It's the only red state that hasn't finished counting.
ETA:... Not the only red state. Just remembered that Utah is stuck at 98% as well.
Wonder what's going on in both states.
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Quote:Most of those illegals live in Texas and Florida, which are controlled by Republicans who will NEVER pay to capture and kill illegals. The Federal government will have to pay or it won't happen.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
It doesn't need to cost anything close this. Even if it did, it will pay for itself almost immediately since we won't be funding illegals anymore.
All Trump needs to do is tell any govorners of states with sanctuary cities that ALL Federal funding to the state for every program ends immediately until they work to remove the illegals themselves. No more housing, school, food or medical care for anyone without a SS#, including their kids.
The problem takes care of itself.
6ixStringJack, you are a stupid asshole to think that would work. But then, so is Trump, who is trying to get Senators to bend:
As President-elect Donald Trump rolls out his controversial Cabinet picks, he has demanded the Republican-led Senate take extended breaks to allow him to make recess appointments rather than subject his nominees to an extensive public vetting process and upper chamber approval.
Trump's demand not only tests congressional Republicans' willingness to uphold checks and balances over bending to the president-elect's wishes but, if met, would be an affront to the Constitution, which empowers the Senate to provide "advice and consent" over the president's key executive branch nominees, experts told Salon.
"It's certainly one of the biggest attempts at a power grab that we've seen. He wants not to just recess appointment, he wants to basically do an end-around around the Senate's role in advice and consent," said Josh Huder, a senior fellow of the Government Affairs Institute at Georgetown University.
https://www.salon.com/2024/11/20/you-cant-just-get-rid-of-them-experts
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Most of those illegals live in Texas and Florida, which are controlled by Republicans who will NEVER pay to capture and kill illegals.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
It doesn't need to cost anything close this. Even if it did, it will pay for itself almost immediately since we won't be funding illegals anymore.
All Trump needs to do is tell any govorners of states with sanctuary cities that ALL Federal funding to the state for every program ends immediately until they work to remove the illegals themselves. No more housing, school, food or medical care for anyone without a SS#, including their kids.
The problem takes care of itself.
Nobody said anything about killing anybody.
They're going to get themselves killed if they fight back though.
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POPULAR VOTE:
76,688,639 for Trump (50.0%) / 74,117,248 votes for Harris (48.3%).
Total votes counted: 150,805,887
Trump's lead: 2,571,391
States with votes left to count (States below 99% according to Google's map)
California: 4% left
Oregon: 4% left
Utah: 2% left
Colorado: 3% left
New York: 3% left
Mississippi: 2% left
Maryland: 2% left
Compared to the 2020 election:
The 2020 results were 74,223,369 for Trump and 81,282,916 votes for Biden*
The total EXACT vote count in 2020 was 155,506,285.
The total amount of votes less in 2024 compared to 2020 is down to only 4,700,398 now.
Trump now has 2,465,270 more votes than he did in 2020.
Harris now has 7,165,668 less votes than Biden* did in 2020.
Finally winding down here. I'd say there's less than 1 Million votes left to count.
We're now officially less than 5 Million votes under the 2020 popular vote count. This is 1/3rd of what the YouTube idiots were claiming the week after election day.
HOUSE:
We're still at 220 R / 213 D.
It looks like the fix might be in on D13 in California. The entire time the Republican held a lead over the Democrat and was up by 1.2 points with 90% of the vote counted. Now with 93% counted, the Republican only leads the Democrat by .2 points.
After about 5 days with no counting, it appears that counting has finally resumed in D45. Last time we checked, it was 50/50 at 90% counted. Now it's 92% counted and the Democrat is up by .2 points in D45 as well.
I'd just assume that the locals in California have successfully cheated both of these races and the final count will be 220 R / 214 D.
I know that Trump and his team are going to have their hands full, but hopefully investigating what happened in D13 and D45 in California are on the docket.
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Quote:Oh, be silly, 6ix. Illegals will run and the law officers will act as if they are felons and shoot them. There will be high-speed chases and crashes. There will be concentration camps holding a million illegals as prisoners, which will mean people will die in prison riots. And when Trump loses his temper with the slow pace of deportation because of legal folderol, he will execute illegals. The invaders are escaping! The Army has to machine gun them to stop them from fleeing! Trump gives a blanket pardon to any soldier or citizen killing an illegal.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:Most of those illegals live in Texas and Florida, which are controlled by Republicans who will NEVER pay to capture and kill illegals.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
It doesn't need to cost anything close this. Even if it did, it will pay for itself almost immediately since we won't be funding illegals anymore.
All Trump needs to do is tell any govorners of states with sanctuary cities that ALL Federal funding to the state for every program ends immediately until they work to remove the illegals themselves. No more housing, school, food or medical care for anyone without a SS#, including their kids.
The problem takes care of itself.
Nobody said anything about killing anybody.
They're going to get themselves killed if they fight back though.
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Another Theory of the Trump Movement
By Elizabeth Bruenig | November 20, 2024, 12:48 PM ET
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/11/maga-trump-psycholog
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In the decade since Donald Trump began to define American politics, critics have struggled to understand his massive appeal. They have perhaps sensed by now that Trump’s support comes from someplace underneath conscious and rational political analyses. Who else but Sigmund Freud to help explain? “The past few years,” the academic and critic Merve Emre wrote in an essay for The New Yorker this past June, “have given us a Freud for the pandemic, a Freud for Ukraine and a Freud for Palestine, a Freud for transfemininity, a Freud for the far right, and a Freud for the vipers’ nest that is the twenty-first-century American university.” History has now given us another iteration: a Freud for the Trump movement.
Consensus on the causes of Trump’s sweeping electoral victory has formed around the idea that voters were responding to Democratic performance on material matters, namely inflation and immigration. But the Trump movement has never been, to my mind, strictly concerned with tangible issues; part of the allure is immaterial by nature, addressed to elemental human urges. Trump offered something special on that count from the beginning—a politics consisting not mainly of a positive vision but rather of a series of opportunities to own the libs. In this project, rational policy details aren’t a priority and are sometimes absent altogether; the point is domination of one’s enemies, a libidinal desire.
Consider the recent post-election slogan “Your body, my choice,” also engineered to upset and humiliate liberals: It’s an overt statement of sex and dominion. And Trump draws that out in people. “Disinhibition,” the New York Times writer Ezra Klein wrote recently, “is the engine of Trump’s success. It is a strength.” Trump is in touch with the impulses and desires that run counter to social norms, and he invites his audience to put aside the usual internal barriers to acting on or voicing them. This moment is an opportune one for a revival of Freud, whose work, with its signature focus on subterranean inner worlds, helps make sense of these tendencies and their implications for politics.
The temptation to psychologize one’s political opponents typically wins out after defeat, the political theorist and professor Corey Robin told me recently. (An easy claim to test: Among the surge of post-election takes is a subgenre of explanatory pieces evaluating the psyches of unexpected Trump voters—suggestions that Latinos are wedded to political strongmen, or that conservative wives cast their votes for right-wingers purely out of fear or submission.) In those periods, “Freud is mobilized to explain why the left failed—not because of institutions or specific forms of economic power or the Cold War, etc., but instead because of psychic structures that the left never really touched,” Robin said. Freud offers something more than simply assigning diagnoses to opponents: “an archaeology of the mind,” Robin told me, that aims to unearth emotions and desires that people aren’t necessarily aware of themselves.
That sort of excavation can be useful. Freud helps in forming an account of what people are drawn to in Trump—what pleasure, what gratification. Gary Greenberg, a writer and psychotherapist, argued in a 2018 Guardian essay that Trump is a figure who beckons America back to prior states of development—an indicator that the death drive is at work. Trump, Greenberg wrote, “urges us all to shake loose the surly bonds of civilized conduct: to make science irrelevant and rationality optional, to render truth obsolete, to set power free to roam the world, to lift all the core conditions written into the social contract—fealty to reason, skepticism about instincts, aspirations to justice.” Trump is, in other words, an atavist, inviting citizens to satisfy all of their hungry drives, all of their libidinous instincts: His America is a place for malign
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Yeah buddy. You just keep right on smelling your own farts and writing articles just like this one for the next 4 years.
Methinks you're getting colder.
I'll leave you two geniuses alone with your theorizing. Looks like you've still got work to do.
Perhaps you can get a collab with Allan Lichtman put together?
I'm sure all three of you shitheels combined could come up with a better theory than the gals at The View could when they're not trying to destroy local Jewish businesses that have been around for 150 years.
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You are all terrible, terrible people.
And now... ever since the election.... most of you are destroying each other.
It's because none of you can stand each other any more than the half of the country that didn't vote for Kamala Harris can stand you.
Don't take my word for it...
Ask serial intern rapist and murder Joe Scarborough and his bitch wife Mika about what they did this week.
That isn't the type of behavior one would expect from two people who truly believe that Trump is Adolf Hitler and that his Presidency will be the end of Democracy, now is it?
They are pure trash, but they're smarter than your average talking-head asshole. They ran as fast as their little feet could take them straight to Trump's front doorstep with little fucking bows on their heads so they could kiss the ring.
Joe and Mika aren't sitting there fighting over bullshit non-reasons why the Democrats lost inside of the echo chamber.
They left the chamber. They went to Mar-a-Lago.
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POPULAR VOTE:
76,741,825 for Trump (50.0%) / 74,207,529 votes for Harris (48.3%).
Total votes counted: 150,949,354
Trump's lead: 2,534,296
COMPARED TO THE 2020 ELECTION:
The 2020 results were 74,223,369 for Trump and 81,282,916 votes for Biden*
The total EXACT vote count in 2020 was 155,506,285.
The total amount of votes less in 2024 compared to 2020 is down to only 4,556,931 now.
Trump now has 2,518,456 more votes than he did in 2020.
Harris now has 7,075,387 less votes than Biden* did in 2020.
States with votes left to count (States below 99% according to Google's map)
California: 3% left
New York: 3% left
Oregon: 3% left
Colorado: 3% left
Maryland: 2% left
Utah: 2% left
Mississippi: 2% left
HOUSE:
We're still at 220 R / 213 D.
D13 is 98% counted and the Republican has a .2 lead. As I stated yesterday, the Republican had a 1.2 point advantage until 90%, and then at 92% the lead shrunk only to .2 point lead. In the 6% counted since yesterday, that .2 lead is still in place.
D45 is 92% counted and the Democrat has a .2 lead, which means that no votes were counted here since yesterday.
I expect both of these to be recounted. Hopefully they get investigated as well.
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How do the popular vote numbers change if you take California out of the equation and it was a 49 state race?
Currently there are 14,981,489 votes counted in California.
9,080,964 for Harris, and 5,900,525 for Trump.
Total Popular Votes (Excluding California): 135,967,865
Total Trump Votes (Excluding California): 70,841,300 (52.1%)
Total Harris Votes (Excluding California): 65,126,565 (47.9%)
Trump's National Popular Vote Lead (Excluding California): 5,714,735
Yes. That is correct... Trump's national popular vote lead more than doubles if the 10% of the national electorate in California isn't included.
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I see that THUGGERY stopped by to post a turkey day gif. Not sure what that is for, Canada had a turkey day last month, I think.
Anyhow, I don't see any post from him in this thread.
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No. He ran away for a few weeks and refused to take his lumps or admit that he was wrong about anything.
A day or two after the election he popped up in the tag section so I knew he was okay. He's since posted several more times there and even here in the RWED in several threads.
I'm sure he'll ease his way back in here more when the Legacy Media figures out where it's going next with its programming.
It's been nice not being called a Nazi everyday in the meantime.
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Quote:You are a little Nazi, but now that Fatso Hitler has been elected, Nazi optimism grows.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
It's been nice not being called a Nazi everyday in the meantime.
Republican economic optimism is skyrocketing already
The Michigan index of consumer expectations (not current consumer sentiment) is doing its usual thing in the wake of the election.
As usual, Republicans are considerably more partisan about the economy than Democrats. After Joe Biden's election their expectations dropped about 75 points while Democratic expectations rose 30 points. This time around Republican expectations are already up 27 points compared to a Democratic drop of about 16.
This is a partisan dynamic we see frequently, and I don't know why. Are Republicans just more partisan? More scared of Democrats than Democrats are of Republicans? Is it media driven? Some enterprising grad student should look into this.
https://jabberwocking.com/republican-economic-optimism-is-skyrocketing
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Donald Trump and the tyranny of the uninformed
The Democrats’ finger-pointing about why Donald Trump won the presidential election continues. Bernie Sanders, the independent senator from Vermont, thinks it’s because Democrats are out of touch with the economic issues that matter to working-class Americans.
“It should come as no great surprise that a Democratic Party which has abandoned working class people would find that the working class has abandoned them,” he said. That’s a pretty patronizing take for someone who claims to be a champion of workers.
Sanders believes that Kamala Harris lost the election because Democrats didn’t speak to the working class with enough empathy and concern. But these voters aren’t five-year-olds who have to be cajoled into behaving themselves. When you respect people, you also hold them responsible for the choices they make.
This election wasn’t about policy. It was about fundamental principles, and voters knew exactly what they were voting for. This was a clear choice between a candidate who pledged to defend America’s founding values, democracy and the rule of law and a populist demagogue who pandered to a sense of grievance and promised to bring down the price of groceries.
It’s infantilizing to assume, as Sanders does, that the working-class voters he champions aren’t or shouldn’t be interested in things like America’s democratic traditions. America’s founders were largely self-educated farmers and tradespeople. George Washington had almost no formal education at all. The Federalist papers — there were anti-federalist papers, too — were debated by ordinary people in coffee houses, homes and public meetings. It’s often said that the working class built America, but they also helped lay its intellectual foundation.
We’ve remained true to that tradition for much of our history. The generations that fought two world wars to defend democracy would have booed a candidate like Donald Trump off the stage. They certainly would never have elected him president.
Now, things are different. Voters elected an authoritarian because they were upset about the price of eggs. That is unsustainable. If a majority of Americans are willing to trade democracy for the promise — especially the illusory promise — of a little economic security, then the American experiment is over.
Nonetheless, there may be hope. I said earlier that voters knew exactly what they were voting for. They certainly could have known if they had made a little effort to find out. But maybe they didn’t.
In a recent survey, despite two years of often-spectacular growth, 56 percent of voters believed we were in a recession. Half of voters thought the unemployment rate was at a 50-year high when, in fact, it is at a 50-year low. Half of voters thought the stock market was down for the year even though at the time of the survey it was up over 25 percent.
In other words, Americans live in two different worlds complete with different facts.
To borrow a phrase from the late Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan (D-N.Y.), we can all live together happily in a country where everyone has their own opinions. We cannot live together in a country where everyone has their own facts.
More at https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/5002590-trump-election-uninformed/
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
It's been nice not being called a Nazi everyday in the meantime.
Oh. I meant to say it was nice not being called Nazi everyday by a human being.
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Voters elected an authoritarian because they were upset about the price of eggs. That is unsustainable. If a majority of Americans are willing to trade democracy for the promise — especially the illusory promise — of a little economic security, then the American experiment is over.
The price of eggs was just a small part of it.
If you're not even going to bother to try and figure out why America hates Democrats, I don't know what to tell you other than don't expect to ever win another election again.
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POPULAR VOTE:
76,789,621 for Trump (50.0%) / 74,273,395 votes for Harris (48.4%).
Total votes counted: 151,063,016
Trump's lead: 2,516,226
COMPARED TO THE 2020 ELECTION:
The 2020 results were 74,223,369 for Trump and 81,282,916 votes for Biden*
The total EXACT vote count in 2020 was 155,506,285.
The total amount of votes less in 2024 compared to 2020 is down to only 4,443,269 now.
Trump now has 2,566,252 more votes than he did in 2020.
Harris now has 7,009,521 less votes than Biden* did in 2020.
States with votes left to count (States below 99% according to Google's map)
New York: 3% left
Oregon: 3% left
California: 2% left
Utah: 2% left
Mississippi: 2% left
HOUSE:
We're still at 220 R / 213 D.
No movement on D13 today. Still 98% counted and a .2 lead for the Republican.
D45 is 92% counted and the Democrat still has a .2 lead.
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I said this back on Tuesday night...
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Harris literally just passed 74 million votes before writing this, with a current vote count of 74,003,503.
With Trump at 76,618,459 and only the small percentage points left to count in the states I listed in the previous post, Harris breaking 74 Million might be our last million vote barrier crossed for either side.
It's still possible that Trump cracks 77 Million, but with the bulk of the remaining uncounted votes being the 4% that California still needs to count, I'm not sure if there is another 381.5k Trump votes left to count.
ETA: Nah... On second thought I'm going to call that Trump gets more than 77 Million when it's all counted up.
That 3% in New York that remains shouldn't be neglected. A lot less votes in NY than in California, but Harris only has a 12 point lead in NY vs the roughly 21 point lead she has in California.
Assuming that Google's map is at least somewhere in the ballpark of accurate, there should be plenty of votes left to get Trump over 77 Million.
Lesson Learned: Don't trust the vague counts out there until everything is counted up. I'm sure that everybody has their own way of counting these things and that's why everyone is always slightly different at any given time. Even this far out from election day.
I probably shouldn't have definitively said that Trump would cross 77 Million.
I'm not going to say that he won't for the same reason I shouldn't have said he would.
There are not a lot of votes left at all. It looks like Maryland may have finally finished counting too, because Google now shows them at 99%.
With California being at 98%, does that mean that there's still 2% to count? Or does 99% mean 100%? About 45 of the states show 99% counted right now.
That's the difference of about 151,000 votes.
If 2% is 2%, Trump gets around 115,000 more votes from California. If it's only 1%, he only gets half of that.
115k would get him to around 76,930,000.
I think at that point, 70,000 popping up from other places could probably happen.
Are there are a lot of variables, or very few variables? What does 99% really mean? Are 2 states actually still counting a small amount of votes, or are 20? Or does 99% mean they're done and the only states remaining are the ones on the above list, now minus Maryland?
It's really close.
But I'm leaning toward him not getting it.
Any 1 Million number is a psychological thing, and I don't think the Democrats are going to allow it to happen. It doesn't matter at all in the real world, but this is just how petty and sad I believe them to be.
Think about how corporations use that same psychology on us every day to make us think things are a lot cheaper than they actually are because they took a single penny off of the price before sales tax. The $799.99 refrigerator sounds a hell of a lot cheaper than the $800.00 one. Gas is $2.77 per gallon, but it's really $2.78 because we still shave off decimals of a penny at the gas station.
Why keep counting in California now outside of D13 and D45?
The historic loss for Kamala is no less historic if she gets another 200k votes under her belt. She's still 700k away from the next million dollar barrier. Hell... I don't think there's a high probability that there are enough votes left to count that would get her over the next much less impactful half-million barrier.
Just wrap it up over the weekend. Make enough counts to keep everything looking legit, but make sure Trump gets at least 50k or so less than 77 Million. Nobody could ever prove that you did it and it's so pathetic that probably nobody would even think to accuse you of purposefully not counting votes you still had left to count 3 weeks after the election.
That way people will go around saying Trump won the election 76 Million to 74 Million, instead
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Trump's 'C-level' Cabinet picks spark outrage
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Trump's cabinet picks are A-Tier.
What the hell would MSNBC know about it? They're being sold off by Comcast, and Comcast isn't going to let them keep the name MSNBC because they don't want it to be associated with NBC anymore.
Fuck you Ted. Where you been, loser?
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I'm not going to bother with updating vote counts tonight. They're just moving so slow it's like they're underwater.
We still don't have a clue where the last two house seats from California are going. Pretty much all of the states from yesterday still have the same percentage of uncounted votes.
Trump is still 175k short of 77 Million. Harris is 183k short of 74.5 Million.
The only notable change today is that Mississippi is only coming up 95% complete when it's been stuck at 98% for weeks, now making it the state with the most percentage of votes still left to count, even though the amount of people that make up 5% of MS is dwarfed by the remaining 2% of California.
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Why Kamala lost: A confession
By Kevin Drum | November 24, 2024 – 7:13 am
https://jabberwocking.com/why-kamala-lost-a-confession/
I have a post all teed up about Why Kamala Lost, but I can't quite pull the trigger on publishing it. Here's why:
This is not the Democratic (popular vote) winning margin each year. It's the change from the previous election. For example, Joe Biden won by 4.5% in 2020 and Kamala Harris lost by 1.5% in 2024. That's a change of -6.0%.
The House vote barely changed at all. In 2022 Democrats lost by 2.7%. This year they lost by 3.0%.
These are just not world historical changes, especially in a weird election that featured a global mutiny against incumbents and a JV candidate hastily subbed in three months before Election Day.
In other words, there may not be an awful lot to explain. Maybe Democratic losses were just the result of a routine pendulum swing and the breast beating over causes is overwrought.
I do think there are some lessons for Democrats in this year's election, and I may yet write about them. But at this point I feel like every theory should be treated as highly provisional. Election results bounce around all the time, and this year's bounce wasn't wildly out of the ordinary. Maybe it really was just the price of eggs.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Not that you're going to live long enough to see 2028, Kevin, but you're not helping Democrats win any elections going forward being just as wrong this as you've ever been about everything else.
Let's see what your real feelings on the issue are.
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POPULAR VOTE:
76,838,984 for Trump (50.0%) / 74,327,659 votes for Harris (48.4%).
Total votes counted: 151,166,643
Trump's lead: 2,511,325
COMPARED TO THE 2020 ELECTION:
The 2020 results were 74,223,369 for Trump and 81,282,916 votes for Biden*
The total EXACT vote count in 2020 was 155,506,285.
The total amount of votes less in 2024 compared to 2020 is down to only 4,339,642 now.
Trump now has 2,615,615 more votes than he did in 2020.
Harris now has 6,955,257 less votes than Biden* did in 2020.
States with votes left to count (States below 99% according to Google's map)
Mississippi: 5% left
New York: 3% left
Oregon: 3% left
California: 2% left
Utah: 2% left
HOUSE:
We're still at 220 R / 213 D.
CA D13 is a 50/50 tie again with 99% of the votes counted.
D45 now has the Democrat up by .2 with 99% counted. AT 90% the Republican lead by 1.2 points. At 92%, that lead went down to only .2 points. They found a lot of fake ballots at the end to push the Democrat ahead.
As I said a while back, these two are going to get recounts. They should also be investigated by Trump.
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I've been saying for well over a week that D13 and D45 in California need to be investigated...
Nancy Pelosi's daughter posts bizarre video saying she was in California district to 'CURE ballots'... as Republican candidate's lead tumbles
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14105493/Nancy-Pelosi-daughte
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Thanks to Jayne for pointing out this article. I hadn't actually read anything about these two districts or even the people who ran on either side. All I've been doing is looking at the numbers, like I did when I gave a more accurate prediction than ANYBODY in the media.
So it looks as though Nancy Pelosi's daughter has been deeply involved in both of those districts over the last week. I do think we should find out what days this happened and where specifically.
I'd like to know where Lil' Pelosi was on the days of Tuesday, November 19th and Wednesday, November 20th. What do you think the odds are that she was hanging out in Coalinga or Huron?
I wonder if this is the same daughter that fucked her mom over by recording Nancy saying that January 6th was her fault and not setting the device she recorded that on on fire immediately.
It wouldn't surprise me. That fuckin' dummy would have been able to just keep doing whatever she's doing and nobody ever would have reported on it if she didn't report on herself.
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