2025 Wide Release Prediction Game Thread

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, June 14, 2025 4:38 AM (P)

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

I've only seen Flint Dicker in 3 second bits in other youtuber videos before now. I didn't
know this was a thing and that it was from a channel with over 7.4 Million
followers!!!???? What????

This is something I'm going to have to devote some time to, and it's far better than it
probably has any right to be.

Brilliant setup with the Choose-Your-Own-Adventure story. They must have made a killing on the ad revenue here. Twist that algorithm up in a pretzel with all these unlisted(hidden) videos.

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, June 19, 2025 2:27 AM (P)

December 2025

Cineverse Sets U.S. Release Dates For Horror Reboots ‘Silent Night, Deadly Night’
https://deadline.com/2025/06/silent-night-deadly-night-return-silent-h
ill-release-dates-1236436030/

JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, June 19, 2025 7:26 PM (P)

Lots of Flops but none as bad as Joker 2 Ass-Rape and what budget lesson did they learn after Folie à Deux’ cost so much to make?

Thunderbolts struggled

Horror is doing ok and Sinners was praised

Sinners (2025) vs. The Matrix (1999) vs. Deadpool & Wolverine (2024)
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/Sinners
-(2025)/Matrix-The/Deadpool-and-Wolverine-(2024)#tab=day_by_day_comparison

Thunderbolts* (2025) vs. Joker: Folie à Deux (2024) vs. A Minecraft Movie (2025)
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/Thunder
bolts-(2025)/Joker-Folie-a-Deux-(2024)/Minecraft-Movie-A-(2025)#tab=day_by_day_comparison

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, June 20, 2025 12:31 AM (P)

It appears that nobody learned any lessons on budgets so far.

I'm not going to do any graphs or math on the thing, but look at these insane budgets across the board from blockbusters to kids movies to even the horror genre.

My guess is that budgets overall have increased 30 to 40% from 2023 to 2025 across the board.

The only "lesson" that I believe they have learned isn't really a lesson, but just the reality of things. The venture capital has dried up, which means they can't just keep getting a bunch of near interest-free loans to keep funding these woke dumpster fires.

So in lieu of dropping any budgets as they should be doing, the amount of new content (ie: Crap) from streaming to theatrical releases has dropped significantly in that same time frame.

Disney is getting hit particularly hard this year, but I don't really think that's because of any recent Production decisions they've made. My belief is that it is by design the way they re-situated their movie releases and streaming content crap over the last two years.

Think about it for a moment...

How many movies did Disney release last year compared to this year? How many of them were successful last year and how many bombed compared to this year?

Though I'm not going to take the time to go through old posts and/or research these numbers, we already know that Disney made bank in 2024 off of only a few movies (Deadpool & Wolverine, Inside Out 2, Moana 2, Mufasa: The Lion King).

But they decided to release a bunch of movies they knew were going to bomb in 2025. Most of them were movies that were easily ready to go out at nearly any point in time in 2024. (Snow White, Thunderbolts*, Blacktain Anti-America, the upcoming Fantastic 4... as well as finally putting out the soon to be ridiculed Ironheart garbage streaming show)

The end of the Fiscal year for Disney is right around the end of September every year.

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Disney's fiscal year ends on the Saturday closest to September 30. This means that for most years, the fiscal year ends on September 30th, but occasionally it will end on a different date to ensure it aligns with this Saturday. For example, in fiscal year 2024, Disney's fiscal year ended on September 28, 2024, according to the SEC.

What day is Avatar 3 scheduled to be released?

December 19th... With a re-release of Avatar 2 scheduled when???

October 3rd.

I expect a banner year for Disney next year after dumping all of their woke trash into the dumpster fire this year, with Lilo and Stitch making up for a good amount of their current 2025 losses, with tax write-offs for all the bombs bringing them close to parity until their fiscal year 2026 begins in October.

My prediction for Disney is that they will do at least as well in 2026 as they did in 2024.

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

JAYNEZTOWN

Friday, June 20, 2025 8:24 PM (P)

Hollywood somewhat struggling, some other studios outside the Big Two really struggle and suffer money loss

World wide Cinema makes money

Disney Leads U.S. Box Office With $1.1B Year To Date, But Warner Bros Is Billion-Bound Too
https://deadline.com/2025/06/box-office-2025-disney-warner-bros-123643
8104/

2026 Could Be One Of The Biggest Years Ever At The Box Office
https://www.slashfilm.com/1889952/why-2026-box-office-biggest-years-ev
er/

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, June 21, 2025 2:08 AM (P)

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Disney Leads U.S. Box Office With $1.1B Year To Date, But Warner Bros Is Billion-Bound Too
https://deadline.com/2025/06/box-office-2025-disney-warner-bros-123643
8104/

Extremely misleading title from deadline here. As I've written about and debunked here not too long ago, Disney has spent 3 to 4 times as much on budgets to get that $1.1B and even with the Lilo and Stitch movie doing as well as it did they are deep in the red for the year. The incoming flop of Elio as well as the very likely Fantastic 4 flop will just make the year even worse for them.

Meanwhile, WB's 2nd place worldwide gross is finding them very, very comfortably in the Black for 2025 so far.

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2026 Could Be One Of The Biggest Years Ever At The Box Office
https://www.slashfilm.com/1889952/why-2026-box-office-biggest-years-ev
er/

I have predicted right above you that 2026 is going to be a banner year for Disney (assuming they did dump the rest of their woke shit by September 30th of this year, and they've learned any lessons at all about budgeting and making movies that people actually want to see instead of far-left ideology that nobody is willing to pay for anymore).

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

JAYNEZTOWN

Sunday, June 22, 2025 9:31 PM (P)

Warner Bros. Pictures Unveils Release Date For Chinese Co-Production ‘Tom And Jerry: Forbidden Compass’

https://deadline.com/2025/06/warner-bros-pictures-china-tom-and-jerry-
forbidden-compass-release-date-1236439076/

JAYNEZTOWN

Monday, June 23, 2025 4:41 PM (P)

Oscars?

History of Sound
https://deadline.com/2025/06/mubis-the-history-of-sound-release-date-1
236435753/

Oliver Hermanus, won the Queer Palm Award at the 2011 Cannes Film Festival. He's a White South African parents were ANC activists, he moved overseas to London? California? German director Emmerich helped Hermanus make his first feature film, "Shirley Adams"? he made 'Living' about 1950s London, a humorless bureaucrat decides to take time off work, also Moffie in 1981 South Africa must complete his brutal and racist two years of compulsory military service while hiding he's a homosexual, as a director he might tick the correct boxes for Hollywood critics

3 different directors...too many cooks?

ELIO "Giant Alien Battle Scene" Trailer

Budget $150 million, Current Box office $35 million

Disney / Pixar Animation Studios

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, June 23, 2025 8:15 PM (P)

Not sure if you were following my Elio thread or not, but Bruce predicted $35 Million for the weekend in the US alone.

I said if it did that and the International number came in higher (as it typically does), at say... $55 Million for a nice round $90 Million internationally, then it would still end up being a MAJOR flop.

Well... We just got a $35 Million WORLDWIDE open on this one.

That's 11.6% of the production budget made back on Weekend 1.

Honestly, I think I'd be hard pressed to find another movie I've EVER seen do that bad before. Maybe the bottom few in the 2024 graph that I made? Maybe. But they would have all been low-to-mid budget movies that most people already forgot about. I've never seen a Blockbuster movie do THIS bad before.

I wonder if anybody is going to report this Truth, or if they're all going to try to gaslight you into believing that it's doing well like Bruce did when he said that $3 Million on Preview Thursday was a "strong" number for Elio.

This could be the last movie that Pixar ever makes.

Thanks Bob Iger. Thanks DEI.

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, June 23, 2025 8:21 PM (P)

Here's what Google AI said when I asked if it was the biggest failure of all time:

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Yes, Elio, the latest animated film from Pixar, is experiencing a significant box office failure, marking the worst opening weekend in the studio's history. The film grossed only $21 million domestically and $14 million internationally, totaling $35 million globally, according to That Park Place, The Daily Beast, and Variety. This performance falls short of even Pixar's previous lowest debut, Elemental, which earned $30 million domestically and $44.5 million worldwide. Despite mostly positive reviews and high audience scores, the film failed to attract significant ticket sales.

Not much gaslighting going on that I can tell. At least from the headlines. They all pretty much read like this one from Forbes:

‘Elio’ Flops With Worst Opening Weekend Ever For A Pixar Movie

https://www.forbes.com/sites/timlammers/2025/06/22/elio-has-worst-open
ing-weekend-ever-for-a-disney-pixar-movie/

I think the gaslighting here is that they're not telling you that it IS or is very close to being the biggest blockbuster failure of all time.

Can't wait to see the drop next weekend.

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

JAYNEZTOWN

Monday, June 23, 2025 9:49 PM (P)

its bad as an opening and not sure on staying power but I believe there was much worse

Joker-2 AssRaped Joker Folie à Deux (2024) vs. Elio (2025) vs. Strange World (2022)
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/Joker-F
olie-a-Deux-(2024)/Elio-(2025)/Strange-World-(2022)#tab=day_by_day_comparison

Elio (2025) vs. A Minecraft Movie (2025) vs. Barbie (2023)
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/Elio-(2
025)/Minecraft-Movie-A-(2025)/Barbie-(2023)#tab=day_by_day_comparison

Pixar's sci-fi misfire, ELIO, failed to launch internationally too, grossing just $14M.
TOP MARKETS:
1. KOREA ($1.8M)
2. MEXICO ($1.4M)
3. FRANCE ($1.3M)
3. UK ($1.2M)
China opens next week. Japan, August 1st.
https://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic/32972-elio/

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, June 26, 2025 6:32 AM (P)

Ballerina is a major flop for Lionsgate...

$90 Million Production Budget. $225 Million breakeven point.

Worldwide Gross after Weekend 3: $105,798,256

Lost just about as much as they spent on this one.

Could have sent that money to those imaginary 300,000 kids that are starving in the Congo instead of lighting it on fire like that.

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, June 26, 2025 3:21 PM (P)

Brad Pitt’s ‘F1’ to Top the Box Office but Projections for Apple’s Big-Budget Racing Drama Are All Over the Place

https://variety.com/2025/film/box-office/f1-movie-megan-sequel-box-off
ice-opening-weekend-projections-1236439291/

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, June 26, 2025 3:53 PM (P)

My old man made Megan 2 sound like it was going to be Terminator 2.

I haven't watched a trailer, but I love the concept. Enjoyed the 1st movie well enough.

Maybe they'll have the budget to buy the rights to use Toy Soldier in this one. From the sounds of it, the song might be a better fit to the sequel.

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Two years after M3GAN, a marvel of artificial intelligence, went rogue and embarked on a murderous rampage, its creator, Gemma, has become an advocate for government oversight of AI. Unbeknownst to her, a defense contractor has created a military-grade weapon known as Amelia, the ultimate infiltration spy. However, as Emlia's self-awareness increases, it becomes less interested in taking orders. Hoping to stop Emilia, Gemma decides to resurrect M3GAN, making it faster, stronger, and more lethal.

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

JAYNEZTOWN

Friday, June 27, 2025 3:10 AM (P)

Thunderbolts made $59,328 Wednesday, 188 + M overseas, 371 + M worldwide

remakes of revamp or reimagined of remakes of remake coming

Lilo and Stitch 2 is announced
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/lilo-and-stitch-2-disney-1236441738/

Sinners $275.5 + M / $85 +M / $361 + M.

A24 used to big a big picture stuido, hype for Everything Everywhere All At Once, Civil War but now struggles

The Phoenician Scheme 32 Million

Materialists 30 Million

who will stay in the top 10, it seems that Sinners gets knocked out of the Top10 this week

Balerina JW, John Wick Ballerina is in trouble

JAYNEZTOWN

Sunday, June 29, 2025 2:46 AM (P)

Horror - Final Destination Bloodlines WB $145.3M intl cume/$280.1M global.

JAYNEZTOWN

Monday, June 30, 2025 6:19 PM (P)

MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE - THE FINAL RECKONING
https://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic/32976-mission-impossible-the-
final-reckoning-2576m-overseas-3895m-worldwide/page/3/#comments
257.6M and overseas 389.5M

JAYNEZTOWN

Monday, June 30, 2025 7:13 PM (P)

Planes vs Boats vs Cars vs Karate Kungfu Sportsball?

F1: The Movie (2025) vs. Top Gun: Maverick (2022) vs. Speed 2: Cruise Control (1997)
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/F1-The-
Movie-(2025)/Top-Gun-Maverick-(2022)/Speed-2-Cruise-Control#tab=day_by_day_comparison

F1: The Movie (2025) vs. Fast X (2023) vs. The Karate Kid (2010)
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/F1-The-
Movie-(2025)/Fast-X-(2023)/Karate-Kid-The-(2010)#tab=day_by_day_comparison

JAYNEZTOWN

Tuesday, July 1, 2025 10:26 PM (P)

Estimated debuts this weekend for F1 The Movie by international market include:
https://x.com/BORReport/status/1939351736021598314
U.K. - $9.2M
China - $9.0M
Mexico - $6.7M
France - $5.4M
Australia - $5.0M
S. Korea - $3.7M
Germany - $3.4M
India - $2.8M
Japan - $2.8M
U.A.E. - $2.7M
Italy - $2.4M
Spain - $2.3M

SECOND

Wednesday, July 2, 2025 7:24 PM (P)

AMC works really hard to make going to the movies terrible

By Colette Bennett | July 1, 2025

https://www.thestreet.com/entertainment/amc-works-really-hard-to-make-
going-to-the-movies-terrible

As streaming media has exploded in popularity over the past few decades, fewer and fewer people have seen the point of getting into the car and going to the movie theater.

Despite being a beloved activity that people have adored for well over a hundred years, going to the movies really isn't what it used to be.

Add up the price of a ticket or two, overpriced concessions, the cost of driving to and from the theater — not to mention the high possibility of loud groups of kids who don't mind talking over the entire movie — and it's just not appealing.

The pandemic hit movie theaters hard, and although America has recovered, the movie theater industry hasn't.

Typically it made between 10 and 11 billion a year before 2020, but since then, it hasn't exceeded more than 8 billion, per data from Box Office Mojo.

One way theaters coped with getting people back in theater seats was to entice them with limited-edition merchandise like themed popcorn buckets, which actually did wonders for their bottom line. AMC alone raked in $65 million from sales of this merchandise.

Now AMC has a new idea to change the theater experience. But unlike its innovative collectible popcorn buckets, this will actually add yet another reason to justify staying home on the couch with Netflix.

Your movie date just got longer

We all go to the movies expecting to see trailers before the show starts, and some people even like it that way, knowing if they're running a bit late, they won't miss the main event.

AMC has decided this is a good thing, and as of July 1, will now show more pre-movie ads than ever, including "as much as" a whopping five minutes of commercials, as well as a new ad called a "Platinum Spot" that will play before the last few movie trailers you see.

Trailers and other promotions can mean the movie doesn't start for 25-30 minutes, according to the AMC website.

The advertising decision comes as the result of an agreement AMC made with the National CineMedia ad network, which is the largest of its kind in the U.S.

Back in 2019, AMC declined using these ads, despite the fact other chains such as Regal adopted them, saying it believed that moviegoers would react "quite negatively" to them.

But it has since pivoted, saying in a June Bloomberg interview, “While AMC was initially reluctant to bring this to our theaters, our competitors have fully participated for more than five years without any direct impact to their attendance."

Why AMC is making this move

AMC has had its share of struggles over the past few years. While it's been slowly recovering since the pandemic, 2024 didn't pan out so well, with AMC reporting a decline in revenue in 2024's Q3 and an attendance decline.

AMC also announced on July 1 that it had entered into a new agreement with its creditors, which will provide $223 million of new money financing that will be used to refinance its debt.

The agreement will also allow AMC to equitize at least $143 million of its current debt, and has the potential to allow the company to equitize as much at $337 million.

Commenters on social media did not take well to the news of the new ads.

"I would like to warn AMC to expect 25-30 years of me never coming back to their theaters," said X user TexasPharmD.

"Just another reason to avoid the movies," X user Laz252 said.

"Stop. I like how they want more people to watch movies, but they're also still making the experience worse," X user 360 No One said.

By Colette Bennett

Colette Bennett is a multi-faceted writer that covers retail, tech, entertainment, and more. Before joining TheStreet, Colette was a Senior Producer for Yahoo! Finance, and prior to that, a reporter for CNN. Also a novelist, her debut "Enter the

JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, July 3, 2025 2:12 AM (P)

Lionsgate's Ballerina grossed $392K on Tuesday (from 1,796 locations). Total domestic gross stands at $56.23M.

https://x.com/BORReport/status/1940494187151196584

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, July 3, 2025 2:41 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
AMC works really hard to make going to the movies terrible

By Colette Bennett | July 1, 2025

https://www.thestreet.com/entertainment/amc-works-really-hard-to-make-
going-to-the-movies-terrible

As streaming media has exploded in popularity over the past few decades, fewer and fewer people have seen the point of getting into the car and going to the movie theater.

Despite being a beloved activity that people have adored for well over a hundred years, going to the movies really isn't what it used to be.

Add up the price of a ticket or two, overpriced concessions, the cost of driving to and from the theater — not to mention the high possibility of loud groups of kids who don't mind talking over the entire movie — and it's just not appealing.

The pandemic hit movie theaters hard, and although America has recovered, the movie theater industry hasn't.

Typically it made between 10 and 11 billion a year before 2020, but since then, it hasn't exceeded more than 8 billion, per data from Box Office Mojo.

One way theaters coped with getting people back in theater seats was to entice them with limited-edition merchandise like themed popcorn buckets, which actually did wonders for their bottom line. AMC alone raked in $65 million from sales of this merchandise.

Now AMC has a new idea to change the theater experience. But unlike its innovative collectible popcorn buckets, this will actually add yet another reason to justify staying home on the couch with Netflix.

Your movie date just got longer

We all go to the movies expecting to see trailers before the show starts, and some people even like it that way, knowing if they're running a bit late, they won't miss the main event.

AMC has decided this is a good thing, and as of July 1, will now show more pre-movie ads than ever, including "as much as" a whopping five minutes of commercials, as well as a new ad called a "Platinum Spot" that will play before the last few movie trailers you see.

Trailers and other promotions can mean the movie doesn't start for 25-30 minutes, according to the AMC website.

The advertising decision comes as the result of an agreement AMC made with the National CineMedia ad network, which is the largest of its kind in the U.S.

Back in 2019, AMC declined using these ads, despite the fact other chains such as Regal adopted them, saying it believed that moviegoers would react "quite negatively" to them.

But it has since pivoted, saying in a June Bloomberg interview, “While AMC was initially reluctant to bring this to our theaters, our competitors have fully participated for more than five years without any direct impact to their attendance."

Why AMC is making this move

AMC has had its share of struggles over the past few years. While it's been slowly recovering since the pandemic, 2024 didn't pan out so well, with AMC reporting a decline in revenue in 2024's Q3 and an attendance decline.

AMC also announced on July 1 that it had entered into a new agreement with its creditors, which will provide $223 million of new money financing that will be used to refinance its debt.

The agreement will also allow AMC to equitize at least $143 million of its current debt, and has the potential to allow the company to equitize as much at $337 million.

Commenters on social media did not take well to the news of the new ads.

"I would like to warn AMC to expect 25-30 years of me never coming back to their theaters," said X user TexasPharmD.

"Just another reason to avoid the movies," X user Laz252 said.

"Stop. I like how they want more people to watch movies, but they're also still making the experience worse," X user 360 No One said.

By Colette Bennett

Colette Bennett is a multi-faceted writer that covers retail, tech, entertainment, and more. Before joining TheStreet, Colette was a Senior Producer for Yahoo! Finance, and prior to that, a reporter for CNN. Als

JAYNEZTOWN

Friday, July 4, 2025 10:39 PM (P)

A 100% Tariff on Foreign-Made Movies: What Does It Mean?

JAYNEZTOWN

Saturday, July 5, 2025 3:40 PM (P)

Will James Gunn's Superman Make More Than Man Of Steel In Its Box Office Debut?

https://www.slashfilm.com/1902929/james-gunn-superman-man-of-steel-box
-office-opening-preview/

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, July 5, 2025 4:03 PM (P)

I can't imagine that anybody is excited over this or Fantastic 4. How many times have we rebooted these things now and never gotten anywhere with them?

Superman had a few movies that went down as classics, really just because of good timing. You'd be hard pressed to find a character in literature that is more difficult to make interesting than Superman. And they already nailed it the first time so why do they keep trying to do it over again?

I guess that gives an argument at least to trying Fantastic 4 again since they've never made a good one, or one that anybody is ever going to care about.

Do you think it's possible that Fantastic 4 just isn't ever going to be popular with the mainstream?

I dunno. I was into comics when I was a kid and I never cared about F4. I already thought they were dated and kind of dumb in the mid-80s.

To me, the only thing that ever happened that was interesting with Fantastic Four in my entire lifetime was somebody getting Jessica Alba to wear that outfit.

Still wasn't enough to get me to watch the first movie from start to finish or even watch a minute of the 2nd flick.

Now we're just going to girl-boss our way with past-their-prime upper-mids with casting almost as bad as Borderlands, all while you know there's going to be at least a little bit of scolding left in there no matter how much Disney tried to tone it down in reshoots?

I hope you at least didn't ask Neil Druckman for advice on what you do with Pedro Pascal and Reed is still alive at the end of it.

Good luck!

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

JAYNEZTOWN

Sunday, July 6, 2025 2:47 PM (P)

the world is watching less superheros but they still watch 'Dinosaurs'

‘Jurassic World Rebirth’ expecting big World Wide International money a post-Covid Record?

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Do you think it's possible that Fantastic 4 just isn't ever going to be popular with the mainstream?

the trailer looks good but this franchise has always struggled, it was popular long ago, they had a Hanna-Barbera toon way back in the late 1960s

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, July 7, 2025 1:51 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
the world is watching less superheros but they still watch 'Dinosaurs'

‘Jurassic World Rebirth’ expecting big World Wide International money a post-Covid Record?

I'm hearing the exact opposite, but we'll see on that one...

Quote:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Do you think it's possible that Fantastic 4 just isn't ever going to be popular with the mainstream?

the trailer looks good but this franchise has always struggled, it was popular long ago, they had a Hanna-Barbera toon way back in the late 1960s

That makes sense. At one time, during the 60's, Fantastic Four was Marvel's most popular property.

But it's a relic. For whatever reason it didn't age well. My friends NEVER talked once about Fantastic Four during the 80's or 90's. They didn't bother having any cartoons for them, and when they did finally make a movie we didn't even know about it because it was made never to be shown to the public just to maintain the rights.

They've tried putting the on the big screen like 3 times now and nobody cares.

I think they probably nailed the asthetic for this new version, and I think had they not had a bunch of DEI writers and bullshit from the last 5 years involved, just because of the look of this thing I think it would have done well.

But it's a girlboss POS with nobody's favorite Pedro Pascal as the lead punching bag.

Seriously...

The dude is in everything, but almost everything he's ever been in has been a flop...

https://www.the-numbers.com/person/218750401-Pedro-Pascal#tab=acting

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

SECOND

Monday, July 7, 2025 6:42 AM (P)

I was intrigued by the following review. Could it really be that bad, while looking so good?

You know what needs to go extinct? The 'Jurassic World' franchise

While the previous ‘Jurassic World’ films were disposable but were rescued by some cool chase scenes and effects, the latest lumbers and sinks like a dinosaur in a tar pit

By Cary Darling | July 1, 2025

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/entertainment/movies_tv/article/juras
sic-world-rebirth-review-20402484.php

"Jurassic World Rebirth," the third in the splinter "Jurassic World" franchise and the seventh film set in the "Jurassic Park" universe overall, is like a copy of a copy of a copy. Even at its best moments, "Jurassic World Rebirth," opening Wednesday throughout Houston, just serves to remind viewers of what they liked about the previous films.

That's a bit of a surprise since this installment marks the return of screenwriter David Koepp who co-wrote the original "Jurassic Park" and the follow-up, "The Lost World: Jurassic Park," with Michael Crichton, on whose novel the concept was based. Director Gareth Edwards knows his way around a giant monster movie, having directed the 2014 "Godzilla." But the result here, despite some effective touches and cool dinosaur moments, feels rote. It's a by-the-numbers summer blockbuster that seems longer than it is and is the weakest in the "Jurassic" franchise.

The movie is set five years after the events of the last film, "Jurassic World: Dominion," in which the public has grown weary of dinosaurs. The amusement park that once featured them has long been shut down and the remaining creatures live wild across various equatorial islands that are now off-limits to humans. But the fascination with them has long been extinguished, except among bookish scientists like Henry Loomis (Jonathan Bailey, "Wicked," "Bridgerton) who works at a museum that few visit.

But he gets his chance for relevance when he's recruited by a drug company represented by the slick Martin Krebs (Rupert Friend) to be part of a team assigned to extract blood from the three biggest air, land and sea dinosaurs in order to make a drug that will combat coronary disease. (It's never explained why the company needs blood from three separate creatures instead of synthesizing what they need from one. The only real reason seems to be so that we get to see our heroes fight off death in three different environments.)

Also part of the team is Zora Bennett (Scarlett Johansson), an expert at extracting things in dangerous situations, who hires her boat captain friend, Duncan Kincaid (Mahershala Ali) and his crew to get them to the island. Simultaneously, a family of four — dad Reuben (Manuel Garcia-Rulfo), daughters Luna (Teresa Delgado) and very young Isabella (Audrina Miranda), and Luna's slacker boyfriend Xavier (a very funny David Iacono) — is hoping for some bonding time with a trip on their sailboat, La Mariposa, to Cape Town.

Of course, the paths of the family, the team and lots of hungry, angry dinosaurs cross. When the dinosaurs, many of which are mutant breeds designed by Jurassic scientists back in the day before everything shut down, are on screen, "Jurassic World Rebirth" recalls the best moments of the previous movies. The fact that the biggest dino has a face that looks more like the creature in "Alien" is all kinds of disturbing. As is always the case with these movies, the technology and technicians that allow this world to be portrayed so vividly is always impressive.

But the human stories aren't particularly compelling, despite some good performances. If there's supposed to be a spark between Johansson and Bailey, it never really ignites. And there's even the introduction of a cute CGI baby dinosaur that Isabella forges a bond with that is an obvious attempt to appeal to the youngest of moviegoers. But it just comes across as contrived and manipulative. Kil

SECOND

Monday, July 7, 2025 6:45 AM (P)

Another bad review. I have to download it to see if it stinks as bad as described:

'Jurassic World Rebirth' Shows Why Hollywood Fails to Make Great Dinosaur Movies

By Rita Dorsch | July 5, 2025

https://movieweb.com/jurassic-world-rebirth-why-hollywood-cant-make-gr
eat-dinosaur-movies/

We’d all be petrified if we encountered an Allosaurus in the wild, but people — and kids especially — aren’t afraid of dinosaurs. They’re fascinated by and love them.

Jurassic Park loved dinosaurs, too. It brought them back to life and perfectly captured the terror and wonder they inspire. Plus, it had the luxury of doing it first and the combined talent to do it best. In the years since, Hollywood has failed to adapt. Banking on that bigger is better (and the wild in-world notion that regular dinosaurs are boring), the Jurassic World movies have rehashed the same basic story but with increasingly ridiculous genetically modified (and digitally-rendered) big bads — Indominus rex, Indoraptor, and now Mutadon and Distortus rex — that never existed. We don't need old stories with fake dinosaurs. We need new stories with real dinosaurs.

I thrilled at watching Spinosaurus sails cut through the water because I love Spinosaurus, even if I know Spiny's main function will be to kill off tertiary crew members in the first act. Nobody loves or cares about the silly, made-up D. rex. The climax of Jurassic World Rebirth represents either the franchise's worst impulses, or, if we're being generous, meta commentary. The film comes down hard on the side that InGen shouldn't have played Frankenstein with these animals, and neither should've filmmakers. Until someone can figure out how to use these terrible, wonderful lizards to entertain and enlighten us again, there won't be another dinosaur movie that leaves a footprint.

Bittorrent Link: F7267E9F76F84C23C704FEA973319B6EB6BA8FB1
https://uindex.org/details.php?id=10453030

My review: If you are into monster movies, this is for you, but not for me.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

JAYNEZTOWN

Monday, July 7, 2025 8:34 PM (P)

Scarlett Johansson has officially become the highest grossing actor of all time. $14.615B in worldwide box office gross from leading roles.
https://awardsradar.com/2025/07/06/box-office-report-july-6/

DC WB Superman’s budget aprox $200M
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/james-gunn-superman-wont-flop-700-m
illion-1236448433/

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
the trailer looks good but this franchise has always struggled, it was popular long ago, they had a Hanna-Barbera toon way back in the late 1960s

That makes sense. At one time, during the 60's, Fantastic Four was Marvel's most popular property.

But it's a relic. For whatever reason it didn't age well. My friends NEVER talked once about Fantastic Four during the 80's or 90's. They didn't bother having any cartoons for them, and when they did finally make a movie we didn't even know about it because it was made never to be shown to the public just to maintain the rights.

They've tried putting the on the big screen like 3 times now and nobody cares.

I think they probably nailed the asthetic for this new version, and I think had they not had a bunch of DEI writers and bullshit from the last 5 years involved, just because of the look of this thing I think it would have done well.

But it's a girlboss POS with nobody's favorite Pedro Pascal as the lead punching bag.

Seriously...

The dude is in everything, but almost everything he's ever been in has been a flop...

https://www.the-numbers.com/person/218750401-Pedro-Pascal#tab=acting

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

a Boomer comic maybe.
I think its just from a different era, the big sellers have been Spider-Man and Batman, maybe Xmen kind of sells or if you team up Ironman, Hulk, Thor, Hawkeye, Captain America, Black Widow into one movie you also get a huge hit but with Fantastic Four not so much

most comicbook hits are kind of grounded, Ironman is an inventor in a suit, Spider-Man's real alter ego has trouble paying the rent, Batman is gritty etc

The rest were godly, you had Superman which are guys with godly powers, the Flash runs so fast its ridiculous, then you have Flash Gordon I guess he's more real but elite he's also a polo player and Yale University graduate then he goes off to have this ridiculous Fu Machu adventure in 'Space' vs Ming int he movie with a 'Queen' soundtrack he plays football, its fun and campy I guess, you had Wonder Woman more super powers is she another of the gods like Superman?

maybe you can say Fantastic Four is from another time when the 'Nuclear Family' was a thing, good economy traditional happy Christian White family the economy is doing ok until some big KingKong moster comes along and 'Mr Fantatsic' has to figure out how to beat him with a spray or ray gun and rope. Maybe its from a time of The Waltons, The Adventures of Swiss Family Robinson, the RedScare the Commie Russians are coming, John Wayne was the 'good' Cowboy shooting those savage red Indians the tv propaganda said, books you had The Andromeda Strain Michael Crichton, Casino Royale by Ian Fleming, East of Eden John Steinbeck, , Doctor Zhivago Boris Pasternak, Across the River and into the Trees Ernest Hemingway, some scifi writers started to rise during the days of the 'Space Race' the tv had Little House on Prarie, Fantasy Island, the Love Boat, Mr Ed, Hart to Hart, The Beverly Hillbillies, The Green Hornet, The Adams Family, Gilligan's Island, The Price Is Right, the Flintsones?

I guess Fantastic Four was revolutionary for the time...however by the time Tim Burton's Batman arrives, the Xmens or Blade its just way too dated

Fantastic Four was probably relevant in its time but then family would break apart, the 80s recessions, the 1990 oil price shock, divorce and crime and drugs, social issues like civil rights, ho

JAYNEZTOWN

Tuesday, July 8, 2025 6:51 PM (P)

Warner Bros. & Legendary's A Minecraft Movie has ended its domestic run with a total domestic gross of $423,949,195.
https://x.com/BORReport/status/1942663148307374252

‘Jurassic World Rebirth’ Roars to Top of China Box Office

https://variety.com/2025/film/box-office/jurassic-world-rebirth-china-
box-office-1236448362/

Pacific Rim (2013) vs. Jurassic World Rebirth (2025) vs. Jurassic Park (1993)
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/Pacific
-Rim/Jurassic-World-Rebirth-(2025)/Jurassic-Park-(1993)#tab=day_by_day_comparison

Monday
https://x.com/BORReport/status/1942661304436830335
1. #JurassicWorldRebirth - $11.70M
2. #F1TheMovie - $3.42M
3. #HowToTrainYourDragon - $1.74M
4. #Elio - $908K
5. #LiloAndStitch - $706K
6. #28YearsLater - $701K
7. #M3GAN2 - $536K

Superman Metascore Generally Favorable Based on 34 Critic Reviews
71%
https://www.metacritic.com/movie/superman-2025/

Superman 86% Tomatometer 87 Reviews
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/superman_2025

JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, July 10, 2025 5:03 PM (P)

RT score is down again but still good 83%, Metacritic now 70

Superman a loss in Asia? not sure, eyes on Europe, LATAM, and Oceania

Superman opens in Indonesia with an estimated 230.4K admissions on Day 1!
https://x.com/cinepoint_/status/1942976263427354929
Here’s how it stacks up against the year’s top opening days:
#1 Jurassic World: Rebirth — 308.0K
#2 Final Destination: Bloodlines — 275.0K
#3 Captain America: Brave New World — 270.0K
#4 Superman — 230.4K (estimated)
#5 Jalan Pulang — 211.6K

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, July 11, 2025 9:38 AM (P)

DC Studios Co-CEO James Gunn Says Rumors That Superman Needs to Make $700M at the Box Office to Be Successful Are 'Just Complete and Utter Nonsense'

https://www.ign.com/articles/dc-studios-co-ceo-james-gunn-says-rumors-
that-superman-needs-to-make-700m-at-the-box-office-to-be-successful-are-just-complete-and-utter-nonsense

No. But it does need to make somewhere in the area of $560 Million to break even, James.

Good luck.

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, July 11, 2025 9:49 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Scarlett Johansson has officially become the highest grossing actor of all time. $14.615B in worldwide box office gross from leading roles.
https://awardsradar.com/2025/07/06/box-office-report-july-6/

DC WB Superman’s budget aprox $200M
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/james-gunn-superman-wont-flop-700-m
illion-1236448433/

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
the trailer looks good but this franchise has always struggled, it was popular long ago, they had a Hanna-Barbera toon way back in the late 1960s

That makes sense. At one time, during the 60's, Fantastic Four was Marvel's most popular property.

But it's a relic. For whatever reason it didn't age well. My friends NEVER talked once about Fantastic Four during the 80's or 90's. They didn't bother having any cartoons for them, and when they did finally make a movie we didn't even know about it because it was made never to be shown to the public just to maintain the rights.

They've tried putting the on the big screen like 3 times now and nobody cares.

I think they probably nailed the asthetic for this new version, and I think had they not had a bunch of DEI writers and bullshit from the last 5 years involved, just because of the look of this thing I think it would have done well.

But it's a girlboss POS with nobody's favorite Pedro Pascal as the lead punching bag.

Seriously...

The dude is in everything, but almost everything he's ever been in has been a flop...

https://www.the-numbers.com/person/218750401-Pedro-Pascal#tab=acting

--------------------------------------------------

"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

a Boomer comic maybe.
I think its just from a different era, the big sellers have been Spider-Man and Batman, maybe Xmen kind of sells or if you team up Ironman, Hulk, Thor, Hawkeye, Captain America, Black Widow into one movie you also get a huge hit but with Fantastic Four not so much

most comicbook hits are kind of grounded, Ironman is an inventor in a suit, Spider-Man's real alter ego has trouble paying the rent, Batman is gritty etc

The rest were godly, you had Superman which are guys with godly powers, the Flash runs so fast its ridiculous, then you have Flash Gordon I guess he's more real but elite he's also a polo player and Yale University graduate then he goes off to have this ridiculous Fu Machu adventure in 'Space' vs Ming int he movie with a 'Queen' soundtrack he plays football, its fun and campy I guess, you had Wonder Woman more super powers is she another of the gods like Superman?

maybe you can say Fantastic Four is from another time when the 'Nuclear Family' was a thing, good economy traditional happy Christian White family the economy is doing ok until some big KingKong moster comes along and 'Mr Fantatsic' has to figure out how to beat him with a spray or ray gun and rope. Maybe its from a time of The Waltons, The Adventures of Swiss Family Robinson, the RedScare the Commie Russians are coming, John Wayne was the 'good' Cowboy shooting those savage red Indians the tv propaganda said, books you had The Andromeda Strain Michael Crichton, Casino Royale by Ian Fleming, East of Eden John Steinbeck, , Doctor Zhivago Boris Pasternak, Across the River and into the Trees Ernest Hemingway, some scifi writers started to rise during the days of the 'Space Race' the tv had Little House on Prarie, Fantasy Island, the Love Boat, Mr Ed, Hart to Hart, The Beverly Hillbillies, The Green Hornet, The Adams Family, Gilligan's Island, The Price Is Right, the Flintsones?

I guess Fantastic Four was revolutionary for the time...however by the time Tim Burton's Batman arrives, the Xmens or Blade its just way too dated

Fantastic Four was probably relevant in its time but then family would break apart, the 80s recessions, the 1990 oil price shock, divorce and crime an

JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, July 17, 2025 4:55 AM (P)

So it looks like Superman is going in the direction of 350-400 Million but overseas in Europe and Asia it crashed

Superman finally passed $150M domestic on Tuesday

Could be a -50% to -55% drop in Second Weekend but there have been worse, falls of -70% are also common with comicbook movies

I think it will do better than Man of Steel
but it wont be doing Minecraft numbers

https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/Jurassi
c-World-Rebirth-(2025)/Superman-(2025)/Man-of-Steel#tab=day_by_day_comparison
,
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/Superma
n-(2025)/Oppenheimer-(2023)/Minecraft-Movie-A-(2025)#tab=day_by_day_comparison

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, July 17, 2025 7:27 AM (P)

Those international numbers are the nail in the coffin I think for the entire plan to reboot the DC universe for the 5th time.

Good riddance anyway. Maybe we can just let the Cape Flicks die for a decade or two now.

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, July 17, 2025 7:35 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Those international numbers are the nail in the coffin I think for the entire plan to reboot the DC universe for the 5th time.

Good riddance anyway. Maybe we can just let the Cape Flicks die for a decade or two now.

--------------------------------------------------

"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

Hold up. Wait a minute...

What's this?

https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Superman-(2025)#tab=international

All I was hearing about was how badly it did internationally, and I know a few days ago that's what I was seeing at The-Numbers. I had heard several youtubers say that it only made $5 Million in China and a few other places as well over the weekend.

I do see that those opening weekend numbers still show up there, but now I'm seeing MUCH HIGHER numbers for all territories and the international numbers as a whole. And it's only Wednesday. I doubt very much the Monday and Tuesday numbers are even in these "corrections".

$35.8 Million in China. $21.6 Million in the UK. $17.7 Million in France. $15.4 Million in Mexico.

These aren't bad numbers at all.

Current international total is now $159.4 Million, which is nearly $5 Million more than the US take including Monday and Tuesday. And like I said before, I don't believe these revised international numbers include anything beyond Sunday.

Take away the $25 Million it's made in the US since Sunday, and that was an opening weekend of $290 Million. On a production budget of $225 Million, this is easily a winner if it doesn't crash and burn here or internationally.

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, July 17, 2025 5:38 PM (P)

so it makes money?

$225 million

https://www.thewrap.com/superman-success-stakes-box-office-dc-studios-
warner-bros/
,
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/mission-impossible
-jurassic-world-superman-box-office-summer-1236255949/

JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, July 17, 2025 11:21 PM (P)

from the other thread

Quote:

Superman (2025) vs. Thor: Love and Thunder (2022) vs. Iron Man 2 (2010)
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/Superma
n-(2025)/Thor-Love-and-Thunder-(2022)/Iron-Man-2#tab=day_by_day_comparison

Spider-Man: Far From Home (2019) vs. The Batman (2022) vs. Superman (2025)
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/Spider-
Man-Far-From-Home-(2019)/Batman-The-(2021)/Superman-(2025)#tab=day_by_day_comparison

Superman (2025) vs. Logan (2017) vs. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3 (2023)
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/Superma
n-(2025)/Logan-(2017)/Guardians-of-the-Galaxy-Vol-3-(2023)#tab=day_by_day_comparison

‘Lilo & Stitch’ Becomes Hollywood’s First Movie to Hit $1 Billion in 2025
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/lilo-stitch-first-2025-movie-billio
n-dollar-global-box-office-1236459515/

based on a video game?
Mortal Kombat 1995 was a 20 million Budget

remake Mortal Kombat a 2021 film was a 55 million budget

Mortal Kombat II

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, July 18, 2025 1:14 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
so it makes money?

$225 million

https://www.thewrap.com/superman-success-stakes-box-office-dc-studios-
warner-bros/
,
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/mission-impossible
-jurassic-world-superman-box-office-summer-1236255949/

Looks like it with those revised international numbers.

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

JAYNEZTOWN

Saturday, July 19, 2025 5:08 AM (P)

maybe winners exist while almost everything else crashes....expensive flops exit the stage? or will Trump bail out Hollywood??

Warner Bros and DC winning, Disney/Marvel and Universal does good

Hollywood struggles on the international stage

who else makes money, the Japanese anime guys and gaming companies, small US and European indie studios, the Chinese, Fantawild, the SKorea tv show, Disney/Pixar animated toons, Wanda Pictures, Wai Keung Lau, Japanese Sony, the phone games, Toho, and Xbox and Nintendo.

JAYNEZTOWN

Saturday, July 19, 2025 8:40 PM (P)

Box Office: ‘Superman’ Leaps Past $300M Globally, Nears $200M Domestically
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/box-office-superma
n-300-globally-1236319665/

WB Superman expected to cross 400M this weekend, heat wave in Europe some say theaters don’t have AC.

big drops in Asia, just American fatigue or comicbook fatigue in general or Superhero fatigue? Japan doesnt really like DC.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, July 20, 2025 2:26 AM (P)

More weird international numbers. I archived them this time, but Box Office Mojo is replicating what the-numbers shows now so it probably won't be changed.

https://archive.ph/3pr6O

Now we're up to $142.8 Million internationally. Doesn't make sense that they'd put those numbers out on Friday night / Saturday morning.

That may be accurate if it's up to date as of Thursday. Because even with just a $95 Million opening weekend internationally, I would expect somewhere around $170-$200 Million at the end of Weekend 2, since the 1st week and 2nd weekend combined is usually pretty close to double the first weekend for the internationals.

It would also mean that yes, Superman should fairly easily cross $400 Million by Sunday night.

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, July 20, 2025 6:55 AM (P)

Quote:
big drops in Asia, just American fatigue or comicbook fatigue in general or Superhero fatigue? Japan doesnt really like DC.

Not sure on this one. Box Office Mojo doesn't even show that it was released in China at all. Bruce's number is still stagnant at the $6.6 Million early number for China. I think my old man may have mentioned that he heard China was shutting it down from because of unrelated (to Hollywood) political/economic issues, but if that's really the case I haven't seen any documenatation about that, and he may have just been getting that confused with earlier reports that it might not have even got a Chinese release from a few weeks ago.

Right now, There's $52 Million unallocated in the "Rest of World" money on Bruce's International Tab, which we have already discovered over time doesn't necessarily mean other countries not on his list, but just that he hasn't taken the time or doesn't yet know the country by country breakdown of the international numbers at this point in time.

And honestly, I'm not sure if that 2nd bump is even new money, or it's some of the 1st weekend money put back after they put it up and took it down the other night. Who knows what the international total really is right now? Near impossible to figure out because of how it is presented even when they're presenting it on a regular schedule. Absolutely impossible for us to track at all when they pull these kinds of stunts.

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

JAYNEZTOWN

Monday, July 21, 2025 6:49 PM (P)

Marvel/Disney admits Superman is doing good

Kevin Feige on Marvel Studios’ Future, Focusing on Lower Budgets, Less TV and More Robert Downey Jr.: ‘Look at “Superman,” It’s Clearly Not Superhero Fatigue’
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/marvel-kevin-feige-robert-downey-jr
-miles-morales-1236465488/

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Absolutely impossible for us to track at all when they pull these kinds of stunts.

I know Japan was notoriously Late often 6 months to almost a year behind the rest, it got faster over the years as people demanded it get to screens quicker with DVDs and streaming

maybe the translator voice over actors were waiting for a big payment, they are much faster now
it said 11th-12th of July 2025 in Japan

However the Japanese market has been shriking as the SKorea one was growing and India and China box office numbers grew, they say Jurassic World Rebirth beat 'Superman' in south Korea

There is also a popular Japan Anime in competition with Superman

Kokuho

'In post-war Japan's economic boom, gangster family-born Kikuo Tachibana finds himself adopted by a kabuki actor.'

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/2025W28/?area=JP

1
Kokuho

2
Superman

3
F1: The Movie

4
Lilo & Stitch

5
Dollhouse

6 -
King of Prism - Your Endless Call- Minna Kirameki! Prism Tours

7
Uta No Prince-Sama: Maji Love Taboo Night Xxxx

8
Frontline Kosai Sekine

9
Baban Baban Ban Vampire

10
Drop

JAYNEZTOWN

Tuesday, July 22, 2025 2:49 AM (P)

Superman is below Minecraft, a good contest with Jurassic World Rebirth, Superman seems to be with Thor Love and Thunder box office, doing 'The Batman' numbers slightly stronger start to Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3

Friday

$16,565,362 /
$194,348,824

Saturday

$23,026,404 /
$217,375,228

Sunday

$18,858,328 /
$236,233,556

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, July 22, 2025 3:46 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
More weird international numbers. I archived them this time, but Box Office Mojo is replicating what the-numbers shows now so it probably won't be changed.

https://archive.ph/3pr6O

Now we're up to $142.8 Million internationally. Doesn't make sense that they'd put those numbers out on Friday night / Saturday morning.

That may be accurate if it's up to date as of Thursday. Because even with just a $95 Million opening weekend internationally, I would expect somewhere around $170-$200 Million at the end of Weekend 2, since the 1st week and 2nd weekend combined is usually pretty close to double the first weekend for the internationals.

It would also mean that yes, Superman should fairly easily cross $400 Million by Sunday night.

Yup. My actual thinking was $410 Million, but I didn't bother saying it because I didn't know for certain what was going on with those internationals. Looks like my instincts were right though.

It looks as though the internationals have been reconciled according to Bruce, and that these are now the current international numbers at roughly $172 Million after the 2nd weekend.

Superman is now at $408 Million worldwide.

It only needs about $155 Million now to break even. It should probably be pretty close to 2/3rds of the way there by the end of next weekend, and another $50-$60 Million should be easy to recoup in the few weeks after that. They'll probably make a few bucks on this one before it goes to streaming.

Depending on its legs, it could even make $100-$150 Million for the studio, especially if the rest of the summer box office is pretty weak and if FF4 takes a huge shit like a lot of people assume it will.

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

JAYNEZTOWN

Wednesday, July 23, 2025 8:54 PM (P)

if you go 410 then I'll go Low

I'll say 750-760,
Domestic '390' plus 360 overseas or maybe international numbers even lower

its certainly not 40-35% USA and 60-65% international

after Superman remake?

‘The Fantastic Four: First Steps’ Expected To Be Big With $190M-$210M Global Box Office Opening ($100-110M Domestic, $90-100M Overseas)

https://deadline.com/2025/07/fantastic-four-box-office-opening-1236465
209/

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, July 24, 2025 6:59 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
if you go 410 then I'll go Low

$410 was just about what I thought it would look like after last weekend if I was right about the state of internationals, while saying getting past $400 Million (reported in one of the articles) was something I was in agreement with. It turned out being $408. I didn't say what I thought we were still going to get.

Quote:
I'll say 750-760,
Domestic '390' plus 360 overseas or maybe international numbers even lower

its certainly not 40-35% USA and 60-65% international

I agree with you here. $750 sounds about right. It's not going to go over $800 unless a summer miracle happens for it and everything else ends up flopping and people are still watching this thing well into next month.

Quote:
after Superman remake?

‘The Fantastic Four: First Steps’ Expected To Be Big With $190M-$210M Global Box Office Opening ($100-110M Domestic, $90-100M Overseas)

https://deadline.com/2025/07/fantastic-four-box-office-opening-1236465
209/

My prediction on this one opening weekend is that it won't crack $100 Million in the US. I think they're doing whatever damage control they can do to try to save this thing last minute, but the opening weekend predictions just keep getting revised down.

By the end, I expect Disney to lose more money with FF4 and I also expect them to keep Kevin Feige around like they do Kathleen Kennedy because at this point I'm sure both of them have some huge blackmail material against either Bob Iger and/or somebody else big enough that they are unfirable no matter how much damage they do at Disney.

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, July 26, 2025 4:46 AM (P)

Unless the Marvel fan boys were out in force last night, my sub-$100 Million prediction may have been premature. It grossed $2 Million more than Superman did on preview Thursday and is already 25% on its way to $100 Million before the weekend starts.

Bruce says his model is telling him $157, but he personally thinks that somewhere around $125 sounds right.

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

JAYNEZTOWN

Saturday, July 26, 2025 9:22 PM (P)

The FantasticFour: FirstSteps
1st Friday

Superman $56,109,755 Minecraft $57,113,324 Fantastic Four $57,000,000
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/Superma
n-(2025)/Minecraft-Movie-A-(2025)/Fantastic-Four-The-First-Steps-(2025)#tab=day_by_day_comparison

However overseas reports and gossip are bad, Trump tariff might have backfired or else people just have Superhero fatigue for international cinema numbers

Strong domestic numbers

‘Fantastic Four: First Steps’ Flying ‘Superman’s Route Toward Great $125M Opening – Box Office

https://deadline.com/2025/07/box-office-fantastic-four-first-steps-123
6468412/

JAYNEZTOWN

Sunday, July 27, 2025 7:23 AM (P)

Fantastic Four First Steps is doing good but more talk of it struggling in Asia

https://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic/32965-the-fantastic-four-firs
t-steps/page/7/#comments

Jurassic World Rebirth (2025) vs. The Fantastic Four: First Steps (2025) vs. The Batman (2022)
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/custom-comparisons-extended/Jurassi
c-World-Rebirth-(2025)/Fantastic-Four-The-First-Steps-(2025)/Batman-The-(2021)#tab=day_by_day_comparison

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, July 27, 2025 7:24 AM (P)

$125 is still not a great opening. During Marvel's heyday, that number would have been the biggest flop for them by far all year. It only looks good when all the other comic book flicks you put out all year were flops and the only comic movie your competition put out all year was a minor success.

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JAYNEZTOWN

Monday, July 28, 2025 4:59 AM (P)

Fantastic Four - This Movie Shocked Me

JAYNEZTOWN

Monday, July 28, 2025 5:14 PM (P)

comicbook super hero movies are back! but is that a good thing?

Fantastic Four, similar numbers to the movies ThorRagnarok, Iron Man 2, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3, Spider-Man Homecoming

https://variety.com/2025/film/box-office/fantastic-four-first-steps-bo
x-office-opening-weekend-1236471441/

2006 vs 2013
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/showdown/sd1715336708/?ref_=bo_shs_sd

How important is international box office to Hollywood?
https://stephenfollows.com/p/important-international-box-office-hollyw
ood
The first time international box office revenues for Studio movies surpassed domestic was in 1997, mostly due to the strong global performance of just three films: Titanic (70% of the global intake came internationally), Men in Black (57%) and The Lost World (63%). But it wasn't until 2003 when international revenue dominated the domestic market for good

China - $6.5M / $4.5M
Asia/Oceania - $36M / $32.5M
EU - $27.5M / $36.5M
LATAM - $23M / $27M
https://x.com/meJat32/status/1949508984035238059
quote
Asia is a complete disaster for F4. In the good old days, it would have earned over $125M in Asia & China.
In contrast, the EU was bad for Supe with exception of UK.

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Quote:
I'll say 750-760,
Domestic '390' plus 360 overseas or maybe international numbers even lower

its certainly not 40-35% USA and 60-65% international

I agree with you here. $750 sounds about right. It's not going to go over $800 unless a summer miracle happens for it and everything else ends up flopping and people are still watching this thing well into next month.

its really starting to drop now, it struggled in Asia, could it go as low as 650? Lower again if numbers keep falling like a rock?

'Superman' makes $24.9M in 3rd weekend, crossed 500 Million on international numbers...possibly a lower 675 finish...I will stay on my original prediction 750

so its almost 300 Mil Domestic so 60% of the money is Domestic and 40% International

Wednesday
$6,637,061 /
$259,851,416

2nd Thursday
$4,790,162 /
$264,641,578

3rd Friday
$7,100,000 /
$271,742,000

3rd Saturday
$9,850,000 /
$281,592,000

3rd Sunday
$7,910,000 /
$289,502,000

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, July 28, 2025 5:34 PM (P)

We'll see. The-Numbers has been down for a while, so I can't really check anything now. Too much of a variance between them and what BoxOfficeMojo shows for me to make any meaningful comparison.

Not really a big deal in the end, if they're not lying about the $225 Million budget. They only need about $60 Million more to cover that before they make at least some money. What's the last DC comic book movie that can say that it made money? I forget at this point.

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JAYNEZTOWN

Tuesday, July 29, 2025 5:24 PM (P)

Warner Bros. & Apple's F1 The Movie grossed $6.31M this weekend (from 2,615 locations). Total domestic gross stands at $165.66M.

Daily Grosses
FRI - $1.826M
SAT - $2.502M
SUN - $1.977M

https://bsky.app/profile/boxofficereport.bsky.social/post/3lv2ddfyzus2
u

Eternity an upcoming American romantic comedy-fantasy film about dead people with romance and jokes?

Superman overseas is suffering, it is having trouble finding money at the International Box Office. Logan had a bad domestic but very good overseas, Iron Man 2 had a good overseas almost 50/50 The Batman good overseas, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3 had a very strong overseas, A Minecraft Movie very strong overseas, Jurassic World Rebirth very strong overseas, for whatever reason the New Superman and New Fantastic Four seem to be crashing overseas...superhero fatigue in Asia and Europe?

JAYNEZTOWN

Tuesday, July 29, 2025 11:51 PM (P)

in a smaller more limited comicbook market for theatrical films the two movies are definitely eating each other?

Fantastic 4 Opens Strong But Superman May Be Stronger

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, July 31, 2025 9:01 AM (P)

I'll bet if they cast John Krazinski as Mr. and Sydney Sweeny as Ms. Fantastic, this movie would have made close to $1 Billion.

Good luck making sequels to this a decade from now when the actress playing Sue is 47 years old and the actor playing Reed is 60.

Nice forward thinking there, everyone. Pat yourselves on the back. Good job. Well done.

You guys and gals done yet? Are you tired of losing money every single time you're at bat?

Fire EVERYONE in Hollywood who has been making decisions and/or has been managing other people in the last decade.

START with completely hollowing out every HR and/or DEI Departments.

Everyone who actually WORKS for a living in Hollywood should stay, assuming that they themselves weren't DEI hires. That caveat to that, of course, would be that if the DEI hire in question is actually pretty good at the job, by all means they should remain gainfully employed. But don't keep people around who under-perform. It's really quite simple and it's how things used to work when the world used to work. Shouldn't be that hard to go back to.

All Hollywood needs is some genuine creative talent, backed by a workforce of knowledgeable and talented people to do the camerawork, cinematography, editing and sound, and some good, solid management who understands what it takes to make a product that people want to see.

At one time, we had that.

We had a lot of things we took for granted that we don't have anymore.

Maybe some of them are worth taking back and fixing.

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JAYNEZTOWN

Friday, August 1, 2025 2:46 AM (P)

so are we looking at Domnestic Sub < 300m for the Fantastic Four movie? in some parts of the international market it is doing better than Superman

‘Superman’ Becomes First DC Pic in Years to Soar Past $300M Domestically
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/superman-box-offic
e-milestone-1236333843/

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, August 1, 2025 3:47 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
so are we looking at Domnestic Sub < 300m for the Fantastic Four movie? in some parts of the international market it is doing better than Superman

‘Superman’ Becomes First DC Pic in Years to Soar Past $300M Domestically
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/superman-box-offic
e-milestone-1236333843/

I got nothing against it except for the casting of Pedro Pascal. I want to see it fail just because of him.

Well that and fuck Disney anyhow. They have it coming to them.

BTW... Disney's park revenue is abysmal in 2025, Second.

I think you already know that because you haven't mentioned it once this year.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, August 1, 2025 7:30 AM (P)

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, August 2, 2025 8:53 AM (P)

It's looking like Fantastic 4 is going to end up getting spanked by Superman in the end.

It may have posted a stronger opening weekend by a few million dollars, but after 7 days the Domestic total for both movies after 1 week was $177.7 Million for Superman and only $158.4 Million for Fantastic 4.

It took 11 days for Superman to have a sub-$10 Million day. It only too 6 days for Fantastic Four to drop under $10 Million.

Including Preview Thursday, Superman had a 51% drop from opening weekend to 2nd weekend. Projections I've seen all think that FF4 will fall at least 60% this weekend from last.

The only saving grace FF4 may have is the international numbers, but I think that's too early to tell right now. FF4 has an international share 4% higher than Superman did. We'll see what happens on Monday. 4% doesn't sound like much, but that's 4% both ways and even if this does end up flopping or coming close to breaking even, we're still talking about nearly half a billion here so 4% is still nothing to sneeze at, and could easily be the difference between losing money and barely breaking even.

On paper right now, FF4 had a $200,000,000 budget. I'm not sure that I believe this because it's one of the cheaper budgets I've seen for a Disney/Marvel movie in a while and they say there was quite a bit of changes made after the initial test audiences rejected their intended cut.

But I hear that instead of doing full-blow re-shoots on this one, more of the changes came from simply cutting more out of the movie. That checks out since it's only got a 1hr 40min (100 minute) runtime. According to Google AI, the average run time for all Disney/Marvel movies combined has been 2hr 11min (131 minutes). That leads me to believe that any "fixes" they made here, however disjointed they may have left some parts of the movie, were much, much cheaper than what they had to spend to fix movies like Blacktain Anti-America and the black not-Ariel live-action Little Mermaid reboot nobody asked for.

Will FF4 make $500 Million?

Yeah. I think so. Unless the ticket sales fall off of a cliff this weekend and drop something stupid like -70% or more, I don't see it not making half a Billion.

But people should check back in a year from now and see what Bruce has the production budget for this movie set at then. I've caught Disney now on more than one occassion apparently fessing up to what movies ACTUALLY cost to make long after they've fallen out of the news cycle, and even Bruce doesn't mention that when it happens.

That makes me wonder how much they're paying Bruce not to mention it, really. Because I can't see any other reason why he wouldn't. He's one of very few people who are privy to that info, and even fewer who have current knowledge of changes made like this long after anybody else would even be thinking to look at it.

I don't consider him a stupid person, but I don't understand why he wouldn't say anything about this because there would be money in it for him to do so.

...

But the more I think about it though, how much money really would be in it for Bruce to blow the lid on stuff like that when it happened? Probably only a fraction of the money that would be hoovered up all over the place... especially by ambulance-chasing anti-woke YouTube channels that have been hemmoraging viewers all year.

And Bruce has worked up his relationships in Hollywood for a long time, however tight or not they are right now. Probably better and safer for him to just stay out of that and silently update those numbers as he gets them like he's been doing.

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JAYNEZTOWN

Saturday, August 2, 2025 5:59 PM (P)

Superman WB doing poor in Europe / Asia and Marvel F4 has done poorly in Europe Asia

Marvel Disney plans? Trouble making 1 Billion Marvel, maybe fix it and just add more 'stars' from the comicbook and put Hulk into a Spider-Man film

attempts at jump starting the cashcow?

Mark Ruffalo Returning as the Hulk for ‘Spider-Man 4’
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/spider-man-brand-n
ew-day-mark-ruffalo-1236232140/

SUPERMAN ready to cross the 550M mark at Global BoxOffice this weekend, after hitting a 225.3M intl. cume over 78 markets overseas on THU.

Eyeing a 640M-700M Global run, depending on how TheFantasticFour affects its legs.
https://x.com/Luiz_Fernando_J/status/1951325455308693544

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, August 2, 2025 11:26 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Mark Ruffalo Returning as the Hulk for ‘Spider-Man 4’
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/spider-man-brand-n
ew-day-mark-ruffalo-1236232140/

That's a mistake. Nobody wants to see Mark Ruffalo anymore.

Bring back Ed Norton if you want to fix The Hulk.

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JAYNEZTOWN

Saturday, August 2, 2025 11:48 PM (P)

the 2nd Fridays

Superman
$16,565,362 /
$194,348,824

Minecraft
$20,500,779 /
$220,862,512

Thor Love And Thunder
$16,565,362 /
$194,348,824

F1 the movie
$6,960,390 /
$90,467,676

The Batman year 2021-ish moved to 2022
$18,614,979 /
$191,135,805

Fantastic Four
$11,700,000 /
$170,127,635

6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, August 2, 2025 11:56 PM (P)

FF4 falls just over 64% from Friday to Friday after removing Thursday preview numbers from the original Friday. (Recorded by the industry with Thursday previews included, it's an 80% drop).

Opening Day: $57,265,566 - $24,400,000 = $32,865,566

This Friday: $11,700,000

Superman's 2nd Friday: $16,565,362
2nd Saturday: $23,026,404
2nd Sunday: $18,858,328

Superman's 2nd Friday drop, with the Thursday Previews included was -70% compared to FF4's -80% drop.

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JAYNEZTOWN

Sunday, August 3, 2025 9:19 PM (P)

36+ Million to enter the Top50 Worldwide

413 + Million to enter the Top10 on international Box Office

movie F1 did poor domestically but had a huge overseas percentage

1 Ne Zha 2 China $1,994,564,524
2 Lilo & Stitch $1,019,270,728
3 A Minecraft Movie $954,585,398
4 Jurassic World Rebirth $736,406,546
5 How to Train Your Dragon $609,978,139
6 Mission: Impossible—The Final Reckoning $592,101,824
7 Superman $531,606,392
8 F1: The Movie $528,270,512
9 Tang Tan 1900 China $452,502,745
10 Captain America: Brave New World $413,640,021
11 Thunderbolts* $382,376,746
12 Sinners $365,821,942
13 Final Destination: Bloodlines $285,330,814
14 The Fantastic Four: First Steps $268,917,087
15 Disney’s Snow White $205,679,463
16 Creation of the Gods II: Demonic Confrontation China $158,047,338
17 Detective Conan: One-eyed Flashback Japan $150,588,900
18 28 Years Later $150,032,064
19 Dog Man $145,567,655
20 Elio $138,254,785
21 Mickey 17 $133,016,530
22 From the World of John Wick: Ballerina $131,793,612
23 Bridget Jones: Mad About The Boy $130,131,295
24 Dead To Rights China $112,893,177
25 Boonie Bears: Future Reborn China $104,582,715
26 Karate Kid: Legends $103,341,152
27 The Accountant 2 $103,223,366
28 A Working Man $98,011,278
29 The Amateur $96,000,836
30 Legends of the Condor Heroes: The Gallants China $89,406,052
31 Smurfs $73,535,958
32 The King of Kings $73,402,808
33 The Lychee Road China $69,881,843
34 The Monkey $63,683,002
35 Den of Thieves 2: Pantera $58,371,507
36 The Dumpling Queen China $52,777,038
37 One of Them Days $51,347,454
38 Materialists $50,800,875
39 Until Dawn $50,174,192
40 I Know What You Did Last Summer $49,537,093
41 Operation Hadal China $49,286,339
42 Flight Risk $48,703,174
43 She’s Got No Name China $46,443,031
44 Black Bag $43,434,248
45 M3GAN 2.0 $39,035,507
46 The Phoenician Scheme $38,767,466
47 Volshebnik Izumrudnogo goroda Russian $37,938,360
48 Demon Slayer -Kimetsu no Yaiba- The Movie: Japan $37,500,000
49 A Gilded Game China $37,341,690
50 Companion $36,709,101

Disney's The Fantastic Four: First Steps has passed the $350M global mark.
https://x.com/BORReport/status/1952022929816055845
The film grossed an estimated $39.6M internationally this weekend. Estimated international total stands at $170.3M, estimated global total stands at $368.7M.

I was thinking 750 but the international numbers are bad, it could be 317 + 275? = 592?
much lower than my Domestic '390' its only doing 350 global now

anyways Marvel might even spin this as a 'win' with Baseball Caps, Funfair Rides, comics, toys, Download games etc
they want Fantastic Four to be a household name like Avengers or 'Superman' but its not happening

Fantastic Four early 90s unreleased film flop = zero money
Fan4 cartoons, games, comics = unknown money
Fantastic Four 2005 film = $333.5 million
Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer Box office $301.9 million
Fantastic Four 2015 film Box office $167.9 million

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, August 4, 2025 12:33 AM (P)

Clownfish TV incorrectly reporting today that FF4 fell 80% from last weekend. They got things mixed up and were applying the Friday with Preview week to week number as if that were the full weekend drop.

According to The-Numbers and the early projections, it was "only" a -66% drop.

Still though, with a weak international number on this one already, that's BAD news.

We're talking $40 Million now for weekend 2, when Superman had $58 Million on weekend 2.

And let's not forget, even though FF4 is going to be the first Marvel movie of 2024 to make any money, if it does make any, it won't be all that much and certainly won't cover the losses of the ones that came before it.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, August 4, 2025 3:45 AM (P)

At least 1 out of 3 of the Pedro Pascal movies currently in theaters is a major box office failure. One of them has made a few bucks.

Eddington cost anywhere from $25 to $50 Million to make, depending on the source. It hasn't grossed $10 Million. It has been projected by A24 to only gross $150k today. Major loss for A24 on this one. (These budget numbers come from sources like Variety and Deadline. Bruce does not have a Production Budget number for this movie listed.)

The Materialists, another A24 film, has a production budget of $20 Million according to Bruce. This one has made a few bucks with a total worldwide current gross of $62 Million. (At least a $7 Million profit here, but I don't think A24 spends much on marketing so maybe $10 Million???).

In any event, that movie is done too with only $42k being reported as the projection by A24 today. One if not both of these movies will likely be dropped out of most if not all theaters on Friday, leaving A24 with a loss of at least $20 Million, but as much as $40 Million on Pedro Pascal movies in 2024.

If FF4 doesn't gross $500 Million, or if it comes to light that Disney spent more than it is admitting it did, it will be another flop for Pedro in 2024.

I think it should probably hit $500 Million, but I'm not so sure.

I wouldn't ever expect there to be 2 Pedro movies in the theaters at once again, let alone 3. In fact, we might not see much more of him at all in the future.

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SECOND

Monday, August 4, 2025 7:59 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:

1 Ne Zha 2 China $1,994,564,524
2 Lilo & Stitch $1,019,270,728
3 A Minecraft Movie $954,585,398
4 Jurassic World Rebirth $736,406,546
5 How to Train Your Dragon $609,978,139
6 Mission: Impossible—The Final Reckoning $592,101,824

Ne Zha 2 is receiving an English-language dub release in the U.S. and other countries starting August 22, 2025.

But you can immediately download Ne Zha 2 with English subtitles:

Bittorrent Link: 15159F9A012514ED7FC988DCF4CC62E89576370C

https://uindex.org/details.php?id=12751842

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

JAYNEZTOWN

Monday, August 4, 2025 5:14 PM (P)

Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba Infinity Castle Reaches 10th Highest-Grossing Film in Japan in Just 17 Days.
https://www.crunchyroll.com/news/latest/2025/8/4/demon-slayer-kimetsu-
no-yaiba-infinity-castle-anime-film-10th-highest-grossing-film-in-japan
Infinity Castle now also has biggest box office gross in Japan for 2025.

JAYNEZTOWN

Tuesday, August 5, 2025 1:04 AM (P)

movies that never made it

No release War of the Worlds, Universal Pictures / Amazon?

It was made 5 years ago but not really finished almost finished and production delayed with Covid? September 2020, in the midst of the COVID-19 pandemic, Ice Cube joined in the lead role in an untitled film produced by Timur Bekmambetov, which would be directed by Rich Lee with a screenplay by Kenneth A. Golde for Universal Pictures, Mars or Martian Aliens it is based on H. G. Wells's 1898 novel The War of the Worlds. The film was directed by Rich Lee with a screenplay by Kenneth A. Golde and Marc Hyman from a story by Golde. It stars Ice Cube, Eva Longoria, Clark Gregg, Andrea Savage, Henry Hunter Hall, Iman Benson, Devon Bostick, and Michael O'Neill...direct to streaming?

JAYNEZTOWN

Tuesday, August 5, 2025 2:15 AM (P)

Weekend Box Office Est. - Australia
https://x.com/numeroboxoffice/status/1952187988185927974
1. #TheFantasticFour : First Steps - $3.66M
2. #Superman- $1.47M
3. #JurassicWorldRebirth - $1.20M

JAYNEZTOWN

Tuesday, August 5, 2025 6:30 PM (P)

Fantastic Four overseas numbers...international totals through Sunday

Italy - $7.1M
Australia - $8.2M
British - $20.5M
French - $10.2M
Mexico - $20.4M
Brazil - $9.3M
Spain - $6.4M
Germany - $5.9M
China - $5.5M
S. Korea - $4.3M
India - $4.1M
Japan - $4.0M

Superman grossed $13.71M during the weekend 3,537 locations Total domestic gross stands at $316.06M

Universal's Jurassic World Rebirth grossed $8.77M this weekend (from 3,240 locations). Total domestic gross stands at $317.67M.
https://x.com/BORReport/status/1952456033881735583#m
Daily Grosses
FRI - $2.524M
SAT - $3.563M
SUN - $2.679M

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, August 6, 2025 3:14 AM (P)

The entire media is calling FF4 a flop.

Looks like running constant 24/7/365 defense for Disney is no longer one of their priorities.

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JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, August 7, 2025 9:50 PM (P)

they call Superman successful?

James Gunn to Direct ‘Next Movie in the Super-Family’ at DC Studios After ‘Superman’ Success

https://variety.com/2025/film/news/james-gunn-direct-superman-sequel-s
uper-family-next-movie-1236478012/

Fan4 still needs to lead to this whole multi-verse chaotic story mess and Doomsday

Avengers Doomsday an upcoming American superhero film based on the MCU franchise. Cretton departed, Waldron replaced Loveness as writer, and Marvel was considering moving away from the Kang storyline, in part due to Majors's legal issues; Majors was fired the following month. The return of the Russo brothers as directors and McFeely as co-writer, the casting of Downey as new villain Doctor Doom, and the new subtitle Doomsday were all announced in July 2024.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, August 8, 2025 2:07 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
they call Superman successful?

James Gunn to Direct ‘Next Movie in the Super-Family’ at DC Studios After ‘Superman’ Success

https://variety.com/2025/film/news/james-gunn-direct-superman-sequel-s
uper-family-next-movie-1236478012/

Fan4 still needs to lead to this whole multi-verse chaotic story mess and Doomsday

Avengers Doomsday an upcoming American superhero film based on the MCU franchise. Cretton departed, Waldron replaced Loveness as writer, and Marvel was considering moving away from the Kang storyline, in part due to Majors's legal issues; Majors was fired the following month. The return of the Russo brothers as directors and McFeely as co-writer, the casting of Downey as new villain Doctor Doom, and the new subtitle Doomsday were all announced in July 2024.

I'll bet you that telling everyone years ahead of time who was playing Dr. Doom is going to leave everyone who sees this movie feeling real cheated that they didn't get that reveal on opening night.

This is just symbolic of how bad Disney is at telling stories in the 2020s.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, August 11, 2025 5:17 AM (P)

FF4 falls another -60% on Weekend 3 for only $15 Million, once again disappointing Bruce and falling another $4 Million below his own expectations. With only $30 Million internationally coming in for the entire last week, it's not looking good for Disney.

I have high doubts we even see the $500 Million Disney needed to break even with their $200 Million budget figure we all know is a lie in the first place.

All 3 Disney Super Hero movies to come out in 2025 were flops. Ironhart on Disney+ was a flop.

"Eyes of Wakanda" will be a flop when it comes out.

Black not-"Wonderman" will be a flop when it comes out.

And unless they find some magical crossover of the few people who still give a shit about Marvel, pay for Disney+ AND still care a lick about Zombies in 2025, "Marvel Zombies" will be a flop when it comes out.

STOP MAKING MARVEL SHIT.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, August 11, 2025 5:34 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
It's looking like Fantastic 4 is going to end up getting spanked by Superman in the end.

Superman breaks even and more this weekend, passing the $562.5 Million it needed to. It's now at $578 Million.

Like I said before though, once it hit break even point there wasn't much left for it to make. It only made $7.8 Million over the weekend. It will make $4 Million next weekend.

With no huge movies on the near horizon and FF4 being a flop, WB might get lucky and eek out $50-$70 Million out of this one. Nothing I would be celebrating. Especially not when recognizing if things went the other way and FF4 ended up being a Billion Dollar movie for Disney, Superman would not have broken even.

I think it's time that James Gunn gets retired from making movies in general. He's clearly lost his touch and the switch from Disney to WB didn't really do him any favors.

I suppose putting out the first DC property in a while that wasn't complete dog shit and a financial loss for WB IS an improvement, but this isn't the win they were hoping for. I don't understand why they keep giving these losers 2nd and 3rd and 5th and 10th chances when everything they touch turns to shit.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, August 12, 2025 8:18 AM (P)

The one movie this summer that Pedro turned down because they put him in everything else is the only one making money.

Warner Bros' Weapons nearly breaks even after only 3 days in theaters. Pedro had to back out of that one and he was replaced by Josh Brolin. WB must be thanking their stars for that happy accident, because this would have bombed if Pedro were in it.

Even funnier, his Silver Surfette co-star from FF4 also stars in Weapons.

Your Hollywood career is finished, Pedro. Maybe Brie Larson or Rachel Zeigler can get you a part on Broadway where they currently have racist, bald-headed lesbian freak black chick who played the wicked witch currently playing the Titular role of Jesus Christ in Jesus Christ superstar.

Because DEMOCRATS ARE FUCKING NUTS.

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, August 12, 2025 8:20 AM (P)

The Telegraph: Don’t complain about a queer black woman playing Jesus if you care about free speech

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/don-t-complain-queer-black-1730002
23.html

No. Fuck you evil cunts.

We're done with this shit. You're going to rue the day.

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, August 14, 2025 3:50 PM (P)

Warner Bros.'s Superman grossed an estimated $1.40M on Tuesday

Paramount's The Naked Gun grossed $1.46M on Tuesday (from 3,363 locations).

'Weapons' movie Warner Bros and 'Freakier Friday' Walt Disney winners

The Bad Guys 2 are struggling to find trust and acceptance ...and the animation struggles to make money in real life?

Marty Supreme is an upcoming American sports adventure comedy-drama film with Kevin O'Leary the sleazy Emirati businessman

from Oppenheimer to 'Steve'

movie Steve trailer

Disney's The Fantastic Four: First Steps grossed $2.64M on Tuesday (from 3,600 locations). Total domestic gross stands at $235.09M.
https://bsky.app/profile/boxofficereport.bsky.social/post/3lwcnx6gubc2
z

JAYNEZTOWN

Friday, August 15, 2025 9:41 PM (P)

3rd Wednesday New Superman $2,948,138 and New Fan4 $1,658,295

JAYNEZTOWN

Saturday, August 16, 2025 2:43 PM (P)

Japan toon 'Demon Slayer: Infinity Castle' storms Korean box office
https://m.koreaherald.com/article/10554846

DC on top, Marvel's long run finally comes to an end

JAYNEZTOWN

Sunday, August 17, 2025 3:20 PM (P)

xulture, are people really a fan of superhero films anymore

its changed K-Pop Demon Hunters, trips to a Cave and a guy with a 'Buckethead' playing guitar

Superman vs. Fantastic Four

JAYNEZTOWN

Monday, August 18, 2025 4:16 PM (P)

One strong domestic and poor overseas, another poor domestic and strong overseas

Box Office: ‘Superman,’ ‘F1’ Each Nearing $600 Million Milestone
https://variety.com/2025/film/box-office/box-superman-f1-600-million-m
ilestone-1236491462/

JAYNEZTOWN

Wednesday, August 20, 2025 11:28 PM (P)

Why Superhero Movies Are Struggling At The International Box Office

https://www.slashfilm.com/1943830/superhero-movies-international-box-o
ffice-struggle-explained/

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, August 21, 2025 4:22 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Why Superhero Movies Are Struggling At The International Box Office

https://www.slashfilm.com/1943830/superhero-movies-international-box-o
ffice-struggle-explained/

What a bullshit article.

Nothing but Lefty cope by somebody who knows that they aren't going to have a job much longer.

The reason why Superhero Movies are Struggling at the International Box Office is the exact same reason that they're struggling just as much here.

The movies are fucking trash, written by the worst people alive who think that the rest of the world should be California, plain and simple. That's your answer.

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

JAYNEZTOWN

Saturday, August 23, 2025 4:04 PM (P)

Daily #BoxOffice Top 7 for Thursday

1. #WeaponsMovie - $2.41M
2. #FreakierFriday - $1.39M
3. #TheFantasticFour - $865K
4. #TheBadGuys2 - $731K
5. #Nobody2 - $632K
6. #Superman - $540K
7. #NakedGun - $515K

https://x.com/BORReport/status/1958984114595668283#m

JAYNEZTOWN

Monday, August 25, 2025 4:28 PM (P)

Disney's The Fantastic Four: First Steps grossed an estimated $5.8M internationally this weekend. Estimated international total stands at $232.8M, estimated global total stands at $490.1M.

https://bsky.app/profile/boxofficereport.bsky.social/post/3lx5qc2ujqc2
r

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, August 26, 2025 4:42 AM (P)

August 1st, 2025:

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
It's looking like Fantastic 4 is going to end up getting spanked by Superman in the end.

It may have posted a stronger opening weekend by a few million dollars, but after 7 days the Domestic total for both movies after 1 week was $177.7 Million for Superman and only $158.4 Million for Fantastic 4.

It took 11 days for Superman to have a sub-$10 Million day. It only too 6 days for Fantastic Four to drop under $10 Million.

Including Preview Thursday, Superman had a 51% drop from opening weekend to 2nd weekend. Projections I've seen all think that FF4 will fall at least 60% this weekend from last.

The only saving grace FF4 may have is the international numbers, but I think that's too early to tell right now. FF4 has an international share 4% higher than Superman did. We'll see what happens on Monday. 4% doesn't sound like much, but that's 4% both ways and even if this does end up flopping or coming close to breaking even, we're still talking about nearly half a billion here so 4% is still nothing to sneeze at, and could easily be the difference between losing money and barely breaking even.

On paper right now, FF4 had a $200,000,000 budget. I'm not sure that I believe this because it's one of the cheaper budgets I've seen for a Disney/Marvel movie in a while and they say there was quite a bit of changes made after the initial test audiences rejected their intended cut.

But I hear that instead of doing full-blow re-shoots on this one, more of the changes came from simply cutting more out of the movie. That checks out since it's only got a 1hr 40min (100 minute) runtime. According to Google AI, the average run time for all Disney/Marvel movies combined has been 2hr 11min (131 minutes). That leads me to believe that any "fixes" they made here, however disjointed they may have left some parts of the movie, were much, much cheaper than what they had to spend to fix movies like Blacktain Anti-America and the black not-Ariel live-action Little Mermaid reboot nobody asked for.

Will FF4 make $500 Million?

Yeah. I think so. Unless the ticket sales fall off of a cliff this weekend and drop something stupid like -70% or more, I don't see it not making half a Billion.

But people should check back in a year from now and see what Bruce has the production budget for this movie set at then. I've caught Disney now on more than one occassion apparently fessing up to what movies ACTUALLY cost to make long after they've fallen out of the news cycle, and even Bruce doesn't mention that when it happens.

That makes me wonder how much they're paying Bruce not to mention it, really. Because I can't see any other reason why he wouldn't. He's one of very few people who are privy to that info, and even fewer who have current knowledge of changes made like this long after anybody else would even be thinking to look at it.

I don't consider him a stupid person, but I don't understand why he wouldn't say anything about this because there would be money in it for him to do so.

...

But the more I think about it though, how much money really would be in it for Bruce to blow the lid on stuff like that when it happened? Probably only a fraction of the money that would be hoovered up all over the place... especially by ambulance-chasing anti-woke YouTube channels that have been hemmoraging viewers all year.

And Bruce has worked up his relationships in Hollywood for a long time, however tight or not they are right now. Probably better and safer for him to just stay out of that and silently update those numbers as he gets them like he's been doing.

I'm right again.

It almost gets boring after a while...

Fantastic Four:

https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Fantastic-Four-The-First-Steps-(2025
)#tab=box-office

$490,525,335 after Weekend 5. It will make around $500-$600k per

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, August 31, 2025 1:08 AM (P)

The Jaws re-release fell only just $120k short of taking first place this week on Preview Thursday.

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, August 31, 2025 7:55 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I'm right again.

It almost gets boring after a while...

Fantastic Four:

https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Fantastic-Four-The-First-Steps-(2025
)#tab=box-office

$490,525,335 after Weekend 5. It will make around $500-$600k per day this week, and another $3-$4 Million on weekend 6, maximum. Just barely making the $500 Million I thought it would after next weeks internationals are added in, with very little left in the gas tank.

FF4 made $2,465,280 at the Domestic Box Office this week. Right about $550k per day every day except for Cheap Seat Tuesday where it managed to break $800k. So exactly in line with where I predicted they'd be, plus a few extra bucks in the bank because of that Tuesday number.

https://www.the-numbers.com/news/259830830-Weekend-predictions-Weapons
-and-Caught-Stealing-in-close-race-for-the-box-office-crown

Bruce predicts $3,420,000 for Weekend 6.

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, September 3, 2025 7:53 AM (P)

Well... looks like it actually made over 5 Million on the 3-day.

I'm not going to count that as a loss for me though, because without any new flicks coming out Bruce got pretty much every prediction he had for the weekend wrong too, with Superman also making $1 Million more than he thought it would, because it was a "Popcorn Flick" weekend.

Terrible news for Hollywood in general this weekend though. They didn't even make $55 Million this weekend in the entire US Box Office for all movies combined.

Ouch.

I fully expect FF4 to end up taking a larger than normal dive next weekend to make up for this temporary bump it got with zero new competition.

All that being said, FF4 right now has $507 Million worldwide now, which is a profit of $7 Million if Disney isn't lying about the $200 Million budget. They've been caught doing so quite a few times already, so I'll have to remember to come back to this in about a year and see what the actual budget was. FF4 likely won't cross $525 Million and might stall out before hitting $520 Million before it's out of theaters.

Nobody in Hollywood spends $200 Million plus massive marketing expenses to get a $7 Million return on investment. Don't expect a sequel. And if the next Avengers movie takes a shit as well, that just might finally be the end of Comic Book movies for a long time.

Fingers crossed.

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

JAYNEZTOWN

Friday, September 5, 2025 5:47 PM (P)

Warner Bros.'s Weapons grossed $784K on Wednesday

https://bsky.app/profile/boxofficereport.bsky.social/post/3lxzv3i2s222
e

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, September 5, 2025 10:25 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Warner Bros.'s Weapons grossed $784K on Wednesday

https://bsky.app/profile/boxofficereport.bsky.social/post/3lxzv3i2s222
e

$241 Million on a $38 Million budget?

Not too shabby.

It made way more money after breaking even than Superman and Fantastic 4 did combined.

Sounds like it could be an interesting flick from the synopsis.

ETA: Superman and FF4 combined have made $58,282,821 after breaking even combined.

So far, Weapons has made $145,940,178 after breaking even.

And even though this is a WB flick, I doubt that they needed to hit 2.5x to break even because I doubt they spent enough on marketing to bump them much past a 2.0x breakeven point.

And if you remove Thursday previews from the first weekend, all three weekend drops so far were in the mid to high 30s.

It will probably make another $5 or $6 Million in the US this weekend. Although, now that I look at the new movies that just came out, The Conjuring is probably going to overlap that audience by quite a bit and there might be a pretty big fall for Weapons this time around, so maybe not.

Oh well. WB should be more than pleased at this result even if it nosedives now. It's done well.
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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, September 7, 2025 12:32 AM (P)

Maybe Weapons does better than I thought despite the Conjuring coming out this weekend?

Bruce predicts only a -27% drop for some reason this weekend on Weapons, even with a projected $66.8 Million for Conjuring. I would have thought there would be some serious overlap between the two and Weapons would have been buried under it.

So far, he's not right. It's dropped -44% from Friday to Friday, but looking just at F/F drops rarely paints the weekend picture, so I guess we wait and see.

ETA:

Well... he does mention this at the end of his prediction article...

Quote:
With all the returning films coming out of a slight uptick thanks to Labor Day last weekend, we might see some steep drops on the chart when we get the numbers on Saturday and Sunday. The model partially accounts for that, but drops of 40% or more for all the returning films are quite likely, in my opinion.

... which is basically what I said on the 2nd regarding Fantastic 4's smaller than expected Labor Day Weekend drop:

Quote:
I fully expect FF4 to end up taking a larger than normal dive next weekend to make up for this temporary bump it got with zero new competition.

ETA2:

And a deeper look at Friday's numbers in general appear to support this theory all around.

Friday to Friday drops:

Weapons: -45%
Freakier Friday: -47%
Caught Stealing: -71%
The Roses: -68%
Fantastic Four: -43%
The Bad Guys 2: -62%
Superman: -62%
The Naked Gun: -70%
F1: The Movie: -55%
Jurassic World Rebirth: -66%
Nobody 2: -81%
Toxic Avengare Unrated: -90%
Honey Don't: -90%
Lilo & Stitch: -93%

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, September 7, 2025 12:41 AM (P)

dbl

JAYNEZTOWN

Sunday, September 7, 2025 1:21 AM (P)

Snow White is out of the top 15

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