List of Animated stuff for Chris and others.

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FREMDFIRMA

Thursday, January 28, 2010 8:52 PM

This came out of a convo in another thread where I pointed out Sturgeons Law applies equally to animated stuff, and Chrisisall kindly asked for list of that glorious ten percent - so imma dig through my collection of buried treasure here and throw out some reccommendations, with annotations and links if I can find any.

LIST OF RECCOMMENDED ANIMATED STUFF
(not in any particular order)
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BLACK LAGOON. (Action)
http://www.funimation.com/blacklagoon/

Highly reccommended for westerners, probably the best english dub ever, john woo heroic action bloodshed at it's very finest with a truly rocking soundtrack and seriously epic badassery.

LAST EXILE. (Heroic Adventure)
http://www.funimation.com/lastexile/

Beautifully animated, gripping story with a lot of human touches and conflicting emotions, with excellent english dub and high quality soundtrack.

SCRAPPED PRINCESS. (Heroic Adventure)
http://www.madman.com.au/scrappedprincess/

Another well animated piece, full of interesting surprises and questions on perception and reality, with a strong english dub and nice background music, the theme in particular is very catchy.

HELL GIRL (Horror/Mystery)
http://www.funimation.com/hellgirl/

Geniunely spine chilling tale of the horrors of vengeance, with a lot of mystery and mysticism, backed up by one of the best soundtracks ever, a very strong english dub, and achingly beautiful animation.

CODE GEASS (Mystery/Suspense/Action)
http://code-geass.bandai-ent.com/

Epic tale of intrigue, action and manipulation, with plenty of stuff blowing up or going wrong to keep it interesting, and fascinating characters whos motivation isn't quite always what it seems, and a very strong english dub with a quite passable soundtrack and excellent animation.
Of particular note is the main character, and his ability to take over the top melodrama from sliced ham to plates full of awesome.
(You'll have to wait till March for the last installment of R2, alas)

SLAYERS + SLAYERS NEXT (Classic Adventure)
http://www.funimation.com/slayers/

Very much a cult classic, the animation is a bit dated but improves steadily, the english dub is pretty strong, and the style is quite entertaining, but what gives Slayers it's real punch is that the heros are not only something of a set of dimbulbs, they're not even all that heroic!
They could give Hancock a run for his money when it comes to insurance claims.

GUNSLINGER GIRL (Drama)
http://www.funimation.com/gunslingergirl/

NOT for kids, eerie, chilling, with a lot of moral ambiguity backed up by astounding animation, a solid dub and a phenomenal soundtrack, and will play your emotional strings like a guitar solo, seriously, bring tissues.
Doesn't fit well into any category, so taste may vary.

Has a second season and two episode conclusion, but the quality went south in a hurry.

CAPTAIN HERLOCK: ENDLESS ODYSSEY (Horror)

I got this one on the cheap, it's something of a space-pirate ghost story, and it *shouldn't* work, but somehow it does, the animation is a little dated and oddly done, but the dub is pretty solid, with a respectable soundtrack, and lots of atmosphere to set the tone of the piece, although it's quality lies in the story more than the characters, as Herlock/Harlock is pretty unlikeable, but then he's supposed to be.
(He's actually one of the few Anarchist characters I dislike.)

There's a couple more that look very promising, (Planetes and Area 88) but I haven't gotten the chance to watch them yet with my schedule and all.

Honorable mentions
(just stuff I thought worth the money but doesn't make the final cut)
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Rozen Maiden + Traumend.
Elfen Lied.
Azumanga Daioh.
Irresponsible Captain Tylor.
All Purpose Cultural Cat Girl Nuku Nuku.
Pani Poni Dash.

The latter two are so mindbendingly ridiculous they're roll out the chair funny.

And a specific reccommendation for children 7-10
(Given tha

CHRISISALL

Thursday, January 28, 2010 8:56 PM

Last Exile has caught my eye...

Thanks, dude.

The laughing Chrisisall

NVGHOSTRIDER

Friday, January 29, 2010 12:52 AM

Huge thanks. Always looking for good flicks, animated or otherwise.

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CHRISISALL

Friday, January 29, 2010 1:45 AM

What about Superman: Doomsday? I LOVE that flick! Have you seen it Frem?

The laughing Chrisisall

FREMDFIRMA

Friday, January 29, 2010 4:41 AM

Umm, no - given that I've considered DC and Marvel the spawn of the devil ever since they thought selling comics was more important than making them entertaining, and the recent inclusion of contemporary politics to already horribly contrived storytelling didn't do the quality no favors...

And those soul crushingly bad movies which one of my cohorts has properly dubbed "The Mighty Marvel Reach Around" ain't helped my opinion one bit.

That said, Iron Man weren't half bad, and the TV Animated Batman was surprisingly good, but those seem exceptions rather than the rule.

On another note, if you do wind up dealing with Amazon, two things to know, especially when dealing with new/used anime.

Do NOT deal with "pieceofmindmedia" - even if it *IS* fulfilled by Amazon, what they did is relabeled a bunch of low value stuff by putting a sticker over the barcode and sold it off to amazon as higher value stuff, I had to return both items ordered from them because of that, and there's no question of it being deliberate - while the process is fairly streamlined, dealing with a (I kid thee not) call center rep in india who didn't speak hardly no english didn't help my patience with the matter whatever.

Amazon made good on it, even tossed me the difference in price as credit so I could just order from them, but it was still a hassle.

On the other hand, "GoHastings" is a pretty good source, with extremely fast shipping, but they have a few bad habits, one of which is listing quality as "very good" regardless of actual quality, and once they shipped me a used item that had been listed as "new" (that seemed accidental and it was in almost pristine condition).

So far they've been pretty solid though, which given how much chicanery exists among anime sellers, that says a lot.

Stay AWAY from FoxAnime, GreatAnime, YesAsia, etc etc - generally found at the top of search engines and shopping "reccommendations", they're all prettymuch the same group of pirates, and IF you get it at all (instead of them running to the bank giggling with your credit card number) you'll probably get a cheesy bad transfer that may be in the wrong language or not even work.

If you want real dirt cheap, and plan to buy a boxfull, hit up RightStuf
http://www.rightstuf.com/rssite/
They have a HUGE bargain bin where you can pick up many individual DVD's for as low as $3-6 USD, and I've nailed a couple full box sets for $12-20 USD.
(In fact there's where I got Slayers/Slayers NEXT, for $13 USD a set)
They also have free shipping on larger orders and weekly specials.

Good luck!

-F

BLUESUNCOMPANYMAN

Friday, January 29, 2010 5:20 AM

I enjoyed Death Note.

HAKEN

Friday, January 29, 2010 5:52 AM

In case anyone is interested, there is now a Live Action Yamato movie coming out in December.

In the US, it went by the title Star Blazers. Along with Macross (Robotech) and Akira, sparked my interests in Anime and the subsequent loads of Manga that I have read over the last couple of decades.

Here's the Yamato trailer.

FREMDFIRMA

Friday, January 29, 2010 7:57 AM

*droools*

Oh man, thanks for the headsup, Haken - dude, you rock!

I actually climbed on the roof and hand built a seriously cracked brained antenna to pull in channel 43 all the way in PA (from central MD) just so I could watch that show, hell yes.

Re: Death Note.

Didn't see the Anime, did read the Manga, good stuff, though a *very* sharp slide in storytelling quality towards the very end, with a lot of obvious plot railroading - still pretty good though, and from clips I've seen of the Anime it's likely not bad neither, only Mello can make the act of eating chocolate both scary/creepy AND awesome.

And if you liked Death Note, you'd prolly Loooove Code Geass - very much a similar work in tone, on a much broader scale.

ETA: Ryuk + Keith Richards, distant cousins, or seperated at birth ?
Me, I'm not quite sure..

-F

CYBERSNARK

Monday, February 1, 2010 6:17 PM

Why do the interesting threads only happen when I'm up to my eyeballs in work and on a 48-hour deadline?

*bumps*

Sticking to series ('cause movies are easy to find), and looking for the not-widely-known gems and must-see-prerequisites, here's a not-at-all comprehensive list of some of my favourites:

Non-Anime:
Disney's Gargoyles:
Easily the best animated series to come out of Disney studios in. . . ever. It's a Saturday morning series, but it gleefully references Shakespeare (several characters read and quote the Bard, and we actually get flashbacks to the events of Macbeth, and Macbeth himself, Oberon, Titania, Puck, and the Wyrd Sisters are recurring characters), Westerns, and Film Noir alongside meta-references to Disney's own canon (Beauty and the Beast imagery around Goliath and Elisa). It also features my two favourite "Princesses:" Elisa Maza, an NYPD detective (who kinda reminds me of a certain transgenic with an attitude ), and Demona (explicitly identified [in a kids' show] as Goliath's ex-lover, and mother of his child, and one of the series' Big Bads). And the Big Bads. . . There are no "Good Guys" and "Bad Guys" here. The heroes are rough, vengeful, and tragic, slaves to their deliberately Shakespearean passions, and the "villains" are all "justified" (to themselves, at least), all fumbling along their roads to redemption.

Avatar: The Last Airbender:
From Nickelodeon, the series that overthrew Gargoyles in my heart as the single best animated series ever produced anywhere. Words can barely express how eye-bleedingly, gut-wrenchingly, heart-breakingly AWESOME this show is. A planetary romance (a "fantasy" set on another world), set on a world divided between four nations, the Earth Kingdom, the Fire Nation, the Water Tribes, and the Air Nomads, each with its own culture, traditions, and a proprietary style of magic called "bending." The Earth Kingdom is based around Han China, and uses Kung Fu-based Earthbending, the Fire Nation are a blend of Korea and Japan, and use Firebending based on Northern-style Shaolin, the Water Tribes are Inuit, and Waterbending is based on Tai Chi, and the Tibetan-looking Air Nomads use Bai Guai to Airbend --all drawn from actual martial artists performing for the animators. At the centre of all of this sits the Avatar; Master of all four elements, continually reincarnated, duty-bound to preserve balance. Long ago, all four nations existed in harmony --then the Fire Nation attacked. The Avatar was killed, and Air Nomads were wiped out. A hundred years later, a Water Tribe girl and her brother discovered Aang: the last Airbender, and the reincarnated Avatar --if he can master the other three elements before the Fire Nation manages to conquer the entire world. There's also the Fire Nation prince, in exile, desperate to regain his lost Honour (yet struggling to define what Honour is). The series is broken into three "books" (Water, Earth, and Fire), each increasingly breathtaking. The animation, the character dynamics, the writing, the story. . .

Transformers Animated:
Yeah, I know what you're thinking; the "Transformers" brand has been slapped on a lot of crap over the years, from sub-standard, incoherently-written, horribly-dubbed anime to Michael Bay's shakeycam-and-pee-jokes, but Animated is when we've been waiting for since the 80s. It is hilarious, epic, dramatic, exciting, and creative, with human characters who are actually interesting, Transformers with actual complex personalities, and even Autobots who are not cardboard cutouts of Heroism. They even talk about PTSD and abandonment issues in a children's cartoon. There's no need to be a fan; this is a completely new universe, with an Optimus Prime who isn't leader of the Autobots, but just the captain of a battered old repair ship, with a crew of wash-outs, has-beens, and outcasts, who gets destiny dropped into

FREMDFIRMA

Monday, February 1, 2010 9:27 PM

I've actually seen a couple episodes of K-on, and did like it, while none of the concepts are new, it has a sweetness - but then I liked Azumanga Daioh too, which a lotta folk find boring.

The draw for me was Osaka, who's wiki-walk thought process is enough like mine to amuse me greatly, and Yui from K-on is a lot like that too.

The one that laid me on the floor was the "censorship" of Mio's little "wardrobe malfunction", it woulda been funny enough as is, but how they carried it off left me on the floor clutching my stomach, hehehehe.

-F

TRAVELER

Monday, February 1, 2010 10:06 PM

"Majo no takkyubin"

English title: Kiki's Delivery Service

An acquired tsate.

http://www.imdb.com/mymovies/list?l=28764731
Traveler

CYBERSNARK

Tuesday, February 2, 2010 3:31 PM

^ Yeah, anything with Hayao Miyazaki's name on it is must-see. The guy's called "The Japanese Disney" for a reason.

Quote:
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

I've actually seen a couple episodes of K-on, and did like it, while none of the concepts are new, it has a sweetness - but then I liked Azumanga Daioh too, which a lotta folk find boring.

Yeah, the whole "slice-of-life" genre can take some getting used to; there's just nothing like it on North American TV, let alone in animation.

The closest we get is prime-time dramedies, and they all have to be live-action (and thus with 30-year-old "high schoolers") because of the Animation Ghetto.

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FREMDFIRMA

Tuesday, February 2, 2010 5:41 PM

Yes, Kiki is next to Nausica on my DVD rack, but being aimed at a somewhat younger audience I didn't list it - I did however give a copy to my niece, much to the horror of her ultra-religious inlaws.

One worth a mention, but good luck finding it anywhere, is a german animated flick called Felidae.
The animation is poor, voice acting iffy, but what carries the piece is that the characters actually act a hell of a lot more like cats than little furry humans - which should clue you in right off that you do NOT wanna show this one to the kids...

It's pretty cool though.

-F

CYBERSNARK

Friday, February 5, 2010 4:33 PM

Bumping with news:

For those of you in The Country, Cartoon Network's Adult Swim will be premiering the English Dub of Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood on the 14th at midnight.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-02-04/adult-swim-to-debut-fu
llmetal-alchemist/brotherhood

Quote:
The new anime retains the same main cast from the earlier anime's English dub, except for two recasted characters and one all-new character. Maxey Whitehead replaces Aaron Dismuke as Alphonse Elric, and J. Michael Tatum already replaced Dameon Clarke as Scar in the Fullmetal Alchemist: Premium Collection video spinoff. Bryan Massey plays the new character Isaac McDougal.

The ANN article doesn't note it, but Aaron Dismuke will be involved, as the voice of new character Lan Fan (he just couldn't do Al's voice anymore because he hit puberty).

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We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.

CHRISISALL

Friday, February 5, 2010 6:40 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

LAST EXILE. (Heroic Adventure)
http://www.funimation.com/lastexile/

Okay, I officially asked for this for my upcoming birthday.

We just saw My Neighbor Tortoro the other night, Ponyo in the theatre, Nausica last month when I got the DVD...

Turnin' Japanese
I think I'm...

The laughing Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Thursday, February 11, 2010 10:16 PM

Hey Frem, I was wonderin' what you thought of these:

Wicked City*
Akira*
Spirited Away
Princess Mononoke
Metropolis
Cowboy Bebop*
Ghost In The Shell*
Ninja Scroll
Fist Of the Northstar*

* I saw & liked a LOT, but not as much as Nausicaa.

The laughing Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Thursday, February 11, 2010 11:30 PM

An "I'm tired of RWED" bump

FREMDFIRMA

Thursday, February 11, 2010 11:39 PM

Of those...

Spirited Away and Princess Mononoke, I would reccommend especially.

Cowboy Bepop (and to some degree Outlaw Star) is a solid reccommendation to fans of Firefly, of course - believe it when I say River and Ed must be related.

Not so sure about the others, although some consider Akira and Metropolis to be "classics", with Ghost in The Shell more cult-classic.

I did recently (as in finished 15min ago) watch a retro, of amazing quality in storytelling, and for it's time, damned impressive animation.

The Area 88 OVA set
http://www.amazon.com/Area-88-Original-Kaneto-Shiozawa/dp/B000FII248

Rightstuf carries it for ten bucks, as a bargain bin title.
http://www.rightstuf.com/cgi-bin/catalogmgr/3n5AJnfvHTjL8XfwHM/browse/
item/69943/4/0/0
(seriously, free shipping for orders over $49USD, and prices of $3-$10 for DVDs, with the occasional box set at $12-15, positively encourage me to raid the everliving hell out of their bargain bin)

So I bagged it up and I was seriously impressed with the quality of animation for an Anime produced in 1985 - the animators had a lot of fun with the gloriously brutal demise of aircraft, and did a pretty good job of giving the "feel" of a dogfight without either blowing the budget, or resorting to lame tricks such as still panel dragging or shaken screen shots.

The story is kinda tragic though, and I'd not reccomend it for kids, except maybe older ones, I'd say PG-13'ish.

Music was pretty impressive, and overall a solid piece of work at a real bargain price.

This is one of the openings used (not used in the version I watched and am posting though) for it, which will give you a good taste of it's general "Flavor".

Of course, I have a little bias here, since I used to be very fond of Origin Systems Strike Commander - an old DOS game, which had a certain awesomeness that Area 88 kinda speaks to for me.

-Frem

PS- *snicker*
While only a passable ultralite jockey in the real world, heaven help you if you run up against me online, cause I "been doin this 'n worse longer than you been ALIVE, rookie!", heh heh heh.

FREMDFIRMA

Thursday, February 11, 2010 11:40 PM

Me too bump!

-F

CHRISISALL

Thursday, February 11, 2010 11:50 PM

Wicked City was actually pretty cool:
http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/wicked-city/849896BD083EAA11CFF
8849896BD083EAA11CFF8

About equal to Akira IMO, but more cult-y.

The laughing Chrisisall

PARTICIPANT

Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:07 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
What about Superman: Doomsday? I LOVE that flick! Have you seen it Frem?

The laughing Chrisisall

Frem is a Japanophile. You would be lucky to find anything on his pull list that doesn't have those pre pubescence animated girls with big blinking Pokemon eyes

That's what people like FremFirma do. They only recommend purely Japanese stuff approved by Japan Inc

I like the odd J-animation like Akira or G.I.T.S but I'm not obsessive about the genre. The fanboyish attitude and Japanophilla following Japan's animation industry is what turns many people off the genre.

You pick up a movie like animated Wonder Woman or the animated A-Bugs-Life, Monsters vs Aliens then you experience entertainment and what you see is what you get
you don't need to educate yourself with a trilogy, quintology, or septology of japan movies to get the message and as bad as Disney etc can be when you sit down in the theatre to watch one of their movies at least the movie is family friendly and you don't have to worry about the kids being inflicted with subliminal tentacle pornography messages.

FREMDFIRMA

Sunday, February 14, 2010 6:34 PM

Yanno, I had thought we could have a nice discussion outside of RWED about animation without your friggin hatred, racism, nationalism and intolerance for just ONCE - and here you are bringing it out here as a personal attack, without even adding a blasted thing to the discussion but obvious lies and personal attacks.

You wanna do crap like that, you do it over there, do NOT be coming out here and inflicting it on the rest of the site users - there's been a longstanding unspoken agreement about that sorta thing, and you've just crossed the line, mister.

For that alone you oughta be tied to a chair and forced to watch Snow Fairy Sugar over, and over, and over again, jerk.

Doubly ironic that I was comin here to question the "classic" value of an anime that most certainly didn't impress me.

But we'll get to that in a moment - to refute your idiotic trolling, I can quite easily point out that there's quite a few anime works I consider little better than filler, like Naruto, Pokemon, Inuyasha and Bleach, for example, Appleseed, despite the hype, was especially jarring in it's awfulness.

Plus you'd have to go pretty far to find something less fitting to your supposed description than Black Lagoon, which you'd know if you actually read through the thread instead of coming here for no purpose other than sheer nastiness, and might I point out to you that Monsters, Inc happens to be done in much the same style you're flaming here despite being an american-CG animation, but as usual facts have no place in your petty little games, do they ?

You know, facts like Felidae being german, or the TV Animated Batman, Gargoyles and Avatar: Last Airbender being american-made.

Or the fact that I have cultural *issues* with japanese society which I would be happy to discuss at length somewhere more appropriate than here.

So it's obvious to anyone and everyone you came here only to be nasty and make personal attacks, which you'd be best advised to be takin somewhere else in a hurry, it's as inappropriate here as it is unwelcome.

That said...

I just got to watching Armitage III - and wasn't all that impressed by it, while the animation and soundtrack quality was passable, the story itself wasn't carried too well and came across in a very disjointed fashion, as if large parts of it were missing, and it does a poor job of exploring the questions about the nature of humanity that it seemed intending to do.
That was the signature series variation which runs about 2hr 20min.

The Poly-Matrix version is even worse in that respect because while they did try harder for the voice acting, and cleaned up the animation, they did so at a cost of hacking out even more of the story to cram it into 90min resulting in the "movie" making no sense whatever.

The follow-up, Dual-Matrix, seems slightly better in story, but at a terrible toll on the animation quality, full of still panel drags, static backgrounds and screenshot panovers, so overall I wasn't exactly impressed by any of it.

Only one part of it spoke to me at all, though powerfully, when Armitage asks the question behind the tears of every mistreated child there ever was.

"If you did not *want* me, then why did you MAKE me ?!"

That question itself answered instantly what she was, cause only someone "human" could ask it, regardless of their form.

But really, save your money on this one, you ain't missin much.

-Frem

CLJOHNSTON108

Sunday, February 14, 2010 8:50 PM

A couple of my recent favorites...

PLANETES
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planetes

Dennō Coil
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denn%C5%8D_Coil
I really love this Russian tribute video...

OUT2THEBLACK

Monday, February 15, 2010 3:13 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
...Only one part of it spoke to me at all, though powerfully, when Armitage asks the question behind the tears of every mistreated child there ever was.

"If you did not *want* me, then why did you MAKE me ?!"

-Frem

I have to tell Folk at every opportunity , 'cause there's so little awareness of it in this world...

" There are NO illegitimate children , only illegitimate PARENTS..."

CHRISISALL

Monday, February 15, 2010 3:40 AM

Lookin' forward to Halo Legends in a few days!
My Son LOVES the game.

The laughing Chrisisall

HAKEN

Monday, February 15, 2010 6:22 AM

In my younger days as a tween, way before Bleach, Naruto, Gundam, and loads of other Anime, I really liked Kimagure Orange Road.

At the time, I had this thing for females who were like Ayukawa Madoka.

Incidentally, years later, I actually ended up with someone like that and married her.

CHRISISALL

Monday, February 15, 2010 6:30 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Haken:

At the time, I had this thing for females who were like Ayukawa Madoka.

Incidentally, years later, I actually ended up with someone like that and married her.

Way to go H!

The similarly happy Chrisisall

HAKEN

Monday, February 15, 2010 6:37 AM

Oh, btw, I just started watching an older series I haven't seen.

Fist of the Blue Sky.

I was a big fan of Hokuto No Ken (Fist of the North Star), but never saw this series.

Also, I'm surprised no one mentioned Rouruni Kenshin.

And, of course, Ranma 1/2.

And since we're on the subject

InuYasha: The Final Act started back up last October to finish off the series.

Anyone else watching that?

CYBERSNARK

Monday, February 15, 2010 2:54 PM

I would (as I am Rumiko Takahashi's b*tch), but I'm in The Wrong Country and have to wait for the dub to come out on DVD.

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We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.

HIXIE129

Tuesday, February 16, 2010 12:34 PM

I agree with Cybersnark about Avatar The Air Bender.

It is awesome... and a movie is coming out in July,
non-animated.

CYBERSNARK

Tuesday, February 16, 2010 3:27 PM

I have low expectations for the Shyamalan version. Even beyond the "cramming three seasons of a TV series into a trilogy" thing, there's the whitewashed casting and the fact that fake-Zuko and fake-Iroh don't even look vaguely right (Zuko's "hideous scar" looks more like a black eye, he's got a full head of hair, and Iroh is far too young, fit, and serious).

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We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.

HIXIE129

Tuesday, February 16, 2010 4:12 PM

I agree but I am still glad that they are doing a movie, the TV series was so good... Maybe this will
bring back a sequel to the TV show..

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, March 16, 2010 9:21 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Haken:

I was a big fan of Hokuto No Ken (Fist of the North Star),

Was the series very different than the movie?I used to own the movie on ancient VHS, and found it to be shockingly entertaining.

The laughing Chrisisall

"I only do it to to remind you that I'm right and that deep down, you know I'm right, you want me to be right, you need me to be right." - The Imperial Hero Strikes Back, 2010

GOTTHAMMER

Wednesday, March 17, 2010 6:53 PM

Legend of the Galactic Heroes

The only real problem w/ this series: it was never officially translated (i.e., fansubs only)...
There was an estimated price for the set, IF it ever came out, and I think it was nearly 2,000 USD.
(it's a 'movie' followed by 110 20+minute episodes, plus side stories)

FREMDFIRMA

Thursday, March 18, 2010 2:20 AM

A recent pickup (got it on the cheap) that I found bloody hilarious, pun intended, was "Magical Witch Punie-Chan".

It's a stripped down sub-only release and missing the four shorts, but given how niche the market for it would be, it's kind of surprising there was a release at all since it was more a running joke than an actual production series - it's very short for this reason, and that there's not so much you can *do* with the basic concept.

It requires a rather seriously twisted sense of humor to enjoy (I think Mikey would love it) but for them that would like it, it certainly delivers.

Here's one of the better reviews.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/review/magical-witch-punie-chan/sub.dv
d
"There is no kindness in Punie's world. Contrary to initial impressions, Punie is no dream-filled innocent, she's a cold, calculating death machine with all the human warmth of dagger in the back, and her homeland, despite its gaudy magical trappings, is an autocracy maintained by raw power. Selfishness and ambition underlie even the most seemingly innocent actions, and frilly cuteness is merely one of many tools of oppression."

Black humor delivered in a boxers flurry while totally, thoroughly, skewering the magical girl genre in every way possible, what's not to like ?

Here's a trailer.

Heh heh heh.

-F

CHRISISALL

Friday, March 19, 2010 1:46 AM

CL, Planetes is great (ep 5 so far), the best anime series I've ever seen (or maybe just the most "western" in feel)!!
Although Fee need to quit smoking...
Thanks again for the recommend.

The laughing Chrisisall

"I only do it to to remind you that I'm right and that deep down, you know I'm right, you want me to be right, you need me to be right." - The Imperial Hero Strikes Back, 2010

CLJOHNSTON108

Friday, March 19, 2010 7:15 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
CL, Planetes is great (ep 5 so far), the best anime series I've ever seen (or maybe just the most "western" in feel)!!
Although Fee need to quit smoking...
Thanks again for the recommend.

Hey, WOW! That's nice to hear! You're very welcome, Chris!
Take a look at the manga if you have the chance.

CLJOHNSTON108

Friday, March 19, 2010 8:14 AM

Oooooh! I forgot all about Yukikaze!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yukikaze_%28anime%29

CHRISISALL

Friday, March 19, 2010 1:14 PM

Looks fairly amazing.

Ever see Blue Submarine #6? Sounds cool from the description...

The laughing Chrisisall

"I only do it to to remind you that I'm right and that deep down, you know I'm right, you want me to be right, you need me to be right." - The Imperial Hero Strikes Back, 2010

CLJOHNSTON108

Friday, March 19, 2010 1:50 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Ever see Blue Submarine #6? Sounds cool from the description...

Ooooh, yeah! There's another great one I forgot about!

CYBERSNARK

Friday, March 19, 2010 4:03 PM

Fair warning: Yukikaze is kinda a mind-frell toward the end. Great OVA, but it'll leave you going "huh?"

There's also Rideback, which is a beautifully-animated show about ballet, motorcycles, and robots. It's. . . A lot cooler than it sounds. Unlicensed so far, so you'll have to check "alternative" sources.

Over on Anime News Network's (free and totally legal) video site, you can also catch the English dub of Jyu-Oh-Sei, which is a really cool space-opera (well, it's mostly planet-bound, but getting off the planet is the overarching plot). Chimera is a really cool presentation of an alien planet --a completely different biosphere with a six-month solar cycle (six months of unbroken sunlight in which everything on the planet wants to kill you, then six months of complete darkness which turns the world into an ice age). It's also a prison world ruled by survival of the fittest (obviously, this one is not for kids [violence, gore, murder]).

ANN also has El Cazador de la Bruja, a western/spy/supernatural series (set mostly in Mexico, featuring a bounty hunter, a government conspiracy, and a secretive order of "witches"). It's a little fan-servile (mainly through Nadie's stripperiffic outfit, Ellis' unselfconsciousness, and the vaguely-implied "closer than sisters" LesYay), but there's nothing really objectionable, aside from the inevitable gunplay. Also available on DVD.

Also from ANN is Heroic Age, a sweeping space opera/mecha/superhero series, involving the destiny of the Five Tribes: the Tribe of Gold (the Old Gods), the Tribe of Silver (the would-be Heirs), the Tribe of Bronze (slaves of the Silver Tribe), the Tribe of Hero (the Nodos, of whom only 5 survive), and the Tribe of Iron (humanity, on the verge of being exterminated by the Tribe of Silver). Also available on DVD.

And, my sole non-anime recommendation this time: StarCom. This is an older series, from the 80s, and centres on StarCom Space Force, a military/peacekeeping agency (American, since, as we all know, that's the only nation that counts

). The series was aimed both at advertising the toys and at inspiring future NASA astronauts --it's basically a guided tour of a (mostly-accurate) solar system, dressed up in sci-fi action/adventure terms. Fiction, but fiction that took the time and effort to get the science as right as possible. Odds of a DVD release are slim to none (the company that owned it no longer exists, so the rights are probably in limbo), but the whole series is on Youtube.

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CHRISISALL

Friday, March 19, 2010 8:27 PM

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Originally posted by cljohnston108:

That looks astounding.
I sold some DVD's & ordered it new for $11.41 on Amazon.
I dig subs & end-of-world stuff!!!

Another thanks is in order.

The laughing Chrisisall

"I only do it to to remind you that I'm right and that deep down, you know I'm right, you want me to be right, you need me to be right." - The Imperial Hero Strikes Back, 2010

CHRISISALL

Friday, March 19, 2010 9:15 PM

Hey guys, is it any coincidence that the music on Planetes recalls the score of Firefly? AND no sound in space? & a main character who has lost faith in life and people?

No wonder this series is growing on me so fast.

The laughing Chrisisall

"I only do it to to remind you that I'm right and that deep down, you know I'm right, you want me to be right, you need me to be right." - The Imperial Hero Strikes Back, 2010

CHRISISALL

Saturday, March 20, 2010 1:47 AM

The Moon ninja ep was so funny!!
And strangely moving.

The laughing Chrisisall

"I only do it to to remind you that I'm right and that deep down, you know I'm right, you want me to be right, you need me to be right." - The Imperial Hero Strikes Back, 2010

CHRISISALL

Sunday, March 21, 2010 1:12 AM

Okay, I'm totally LOVIN' Planetes... I expect to freak off of the short-but-sweet Blue Sub #6 when I get it, but still, Nausicaa is my favourite anime of all time (thanks Frem).

The updating Chrisisall

"I only do it to to remind you that I'm right and that deep down, you know I'm right, you want me to be right, you need me to be right." - The Imperial Hero Strikes Back, 2010

CLJOHNSTON108

Sunday, March 21, 2010 2:15 AM

Ohhh, if only they'd release Dennō Coil on DVD.
You'd be totally lovin' that one, too!

CHRISISALL

Sunday, March 21, 2010 2:36 AM

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Originally posted by cljohnston108:
Ohhh, if only they'd release Dennō Coil on DVD.
You'd be totally lovin' that one, too!

Are you tryin' to make me poor? Deplete my existing DVD collection?
I'm done with anime for a while I think, once I've seen all of what I've got (and ordered).
Last Exile will complete my anime collection for now. My next & last order for this year.

The laughing Chrisisall

"I only do it to to remind you that I'm right and that deep down, you know I'm right, you want me to be right, you need me to be right." - The Imperial Hero Strikes Back, 2010

SHINYGOODGUY

Sunday, March 21, 2010 6:08 AM

Hey Frem, Saw Nausicca based on your recommendation from the other thread and I really liked it. It was interesting and fun. Also started watching The Last Exile, but I haven't gone back to finish the series - been busy. I'll return to it sometime this coming week to finish, right after I start watching Season 1 of Breaking Bad (my son got me hooked).

I'm gonna take a look see at these - anime is always 'shiny' as far as I'm concerned.

Thanks again for the suggestions.

SGG

Tawabawho?

SHINYGOODGUY

Sunday, March 21, 2010 6:45 AM

Frem, I know it's been a while since you wrote this but I was intriqued by your comment.........

"and the recent inclusion of contemporary politics to already horribly contrived storytelling didn't do the quality no favors..."

If that wasn't bad enough they made matters worse, at least for me, when they decided not to include: The Scarlet Witch and her brother Quicksilver, Angel, The Beast and Iceman. Ok, the Beast and Angel appeared in XM3 and the Iceman was IceBoy, but I was sorely disappointed.

"And those soul crushingly bad movies which one of my cohorts has properly dubbed "The Mighty Marvel Reach Around" ain't helped my opinion one bit."

The first one showed some promise but XM2 sank, and XM3 blew chunks. Wolverine Origins - from all reports, bit it hard (now I've heard news of a new Origins movie with Magneto, yawn!)

"That said, Iron Man weren't half bad, and the TV Animated Batman was surprisingly good, but those seem exceptions rather than the rule."

Agreed, Iron Man was actually quite good thanks to Robert Downey's performance. It almost lost me with the ending, but I'm being picky. Nonetheless, 2 thumbs up! Roger Ebert, wherever you are get well soon, you ARE missed.

As for the animated Batman, again good choice. I especially liked the Joker in that series. Honorable mention should go to TV's Batman Beyond, I believe it was made by the same folk who made the animated series.

SGG

Tawabawho?

SHINYGOODGUY

Sunday, March 21, 2010 6:52 AM

Me likey, too (no pun intended).

SGG

Tawabawho?

SHINYGOODGUY

Sunday, March 21, 2010 7:02 AM

Planetes sounds like fun, another one added to the list.

Has anyone taken a peek at Evangelion. My son gave me the heads up about this anime series. I watched a handful of episodes and I liked it, I need to sit down and catch the rest of it.

SGG

Tawabawho?

FREMDFIRMA

Sunday, March 21, 2010 10:02 AM

Hoo boy, this is gonna be a long post.

Firstoff, I absolutely mean to get the full collection of Avatar:Last airbender soon as I can get a decent price on it, good stuff all around, and Toph Bei Fong is sooo MUCH like my niece it ain't even funny.

Second, yeah, Last Exile is good stuff...

Select to view spoiler:

I happen to be quite fond of Dio, despite him technically being a badguy/enemy defector, he's a total sweetheart - and I especially found it touching that LE handles gender preferences with a "so what" kind of attitude, given that there's a couple openly gay characters.

Oh, and FYI, Lucciola means "Firefly" in Italian.

As to Marvel, oh boy - this is gonna get heavily political in places, and I really, seriously don't like to discuss such things outside of RWED and inflict it on the unwilling, but since it's essential to the topic I will spoiler-tag those bits as a compromise. (managed to dodge around that bullet and still address most of it, yay me!)

So.. Well, the story-writing of comics has been for nearly the last twenty years, absolutely horrible, inexcusably so if you were to ask me - cheap soap opera drag-it-out tricks just to sell tripe, almost ash-can editions, really.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashcan_copy

And while always heavily loaded with propaganda, some of the most notorious examples available for view at superdickery.com -

Select to view spoiler:

the recent addition of jack bauer-ish tyranny justifying bullshit has driven the quality beyond even bile fascination into just plain nauseating piles of go-se.

And if that wasn't enough, further contrived storylining to sell multiple "special editions" as a direct screw-over to comic collectors, a trade which has gotten so dirty and ugly I'll just not bother discussin it here.

As for the Xmen movies... oh, where to even START...

Well, first there's the whole way they screwed up the concept that the scary thing about Xavier and Magneto is that they were so very much alike, they rather totally derail this in anvilicious fashion, Magneto would NEVER hang his own out to dry "pawns go first" - "you're not one of us anymore" as it was that very kind of behavior which set him *against* the normals in the first place, it's so against his very nature I kinda recoiled in shock, honestly.

Then there's Xaviers pompous little my way or the highway attitude, which is present, but in much, much subtler form in the comics, Magneto was more along the lines of you're here because you want to be, need to be, if you don't like it, or can't cut it, get the hell out, just don't get in my way or I will mash you flat - an attitude I can understand, yanno ?

Xavier on the other hand would actively go after anyone who brushed him off or refused to be part of his agenda, nagging and wheedling at first, but with violence in the offering eventually, which is why him and Magneto have so bloody much repressed hatred for each other.

What set me against the first movie was how none of em even questioned it, didn't think it through, explore the concept, just mindlessly accepted it, all but one - and when that one did, he joined the other side!
Not that Pyro didn't have his own issues, but still, what's it say when the only one who thinks it through instead of meekly accepting it immediately jumps ship ?

Wolverine though, is a much different story, he owes Charles, and he really *wants* to believe in Xaviers dream, but Xaviers naivety keeps smacking him in the back of the head at really inopportune moments, which in combination with his rivaly/jealousy problems with Cyclops, frustrates the everliving crap out of him and thus he's always lookin for an excuse to clobber the shit out of someone - he's the very best at what he does, but what he does, it ain't very nice...
And believe me, I know EXACTLY how he feels, being frustrated by what shoulda been, and ain't, and being very good at shit a decent world would have no use for.
Hugh Jackman comes off a little wooden to anyone familiar with just how much frustrated rage Wolvie is suckin up mos

FREMDFIRMA

Sunday, March 21, 2010 10:09 AM

Neon Genesis Evangelion ?

I didn't much like it, a little too mindbending, especially towards the end, and I really couldn't do anything BUT hate on wussy boy, which is perhaps an unfair criticism, but it's like Cloverfield, when you're ROOTING FOR THE BAD GUYS within the first hour or so, well, why are you watching this again ?

Most folks take it as a classic, but I got enough dealing with some really broken people in real life that seeing wussy boy, miss identity issues and sadomasochism girl fail to cope just makes me wanna choke something, yanno ?

Of course, if NGE isn't mindbending ENOUGH for ya, try watching FLCL - or worse, try watching FLCL *sober* cause that whole series is kind of based on the premise of WTF ?!!

Like, Tank Girl on LSD kinda WTF, at that.

And I reaaaalllly need sleep now.

-F

JAYNEZTOWN

Sunday, March 21, 2010 12:46 PM

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Originally posted by participant:
Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
What about Superman: Doomsday? I LOVE that flick! Have you seen it Frem?

The laughing Chrisisall

Frem is a Japanophile. You would be lucky to find anything on his pull list that doesn't have those pre pubescence animated girls with big blinking Pokemon eyes

That's what people like FremFirma do. They only recommend purely Japanese stuff approved by Japan Inc

I like the odd J-animation like Akira or G.I.T.S but I'm not obsessive about the genre. The fanboyish attitude and Japanophilla following Japan's animation industry is what turns many people off the genre.

You pick up a movie like animated Wonder Woman or the animated A-Bugs-Life, Monsters vs Aliens then you experience entertainment and what you see is what you get
you don't need to educate yourself with a trilogy, quintology, or septology of japan movies to get the message and as bad as Disney etc can be when you sit down in the theatre to watch one of their movies at least the movie is family friendly and you don't have to worry about the kids being inflicted with subliminal tentacle pornography messages.

don't buy the stereotype

there's more to it than just land of the rising pervert

CYBERSNARK

Sunday, March 21, 2010 1:17 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Neon Genesis Evangelion ?

I didn't much like it, a little too mindbending, especially towards the end, and I really couldn't do anything BUT hate on wussy boy, which is perhaps an unfair criticism, but it's like Cloverfield, when you're ROOTING FOR THE BAD GUYS within the first hour or so, well, why are you watching this again ?

Yeah, Hideako Anno was. . . troubled when he made Evangelion. It's artistically brilliant, IMHO, but not really all that healthy.

The (seemingly doomed to incompletion) manga is better, and the (still in progress) Evangelion: Rebuild (the original series re-animated as a movie trilogy, with a "sequel" slated as the fourth movie) seems to be even better. The first two Rebuild movies are out on DVD, but I'm personally waiting for the inevitable boxed set (got a chance to see the first one in theatre, and greatly enjoyed it).

There's also Angelic Days, a non-canon/alternate-timeline manga that's downright cool. Basically the Evangelion version of the Mirror Universe --where Shinji is well-adjusted, Asuka is emotionally stable (yet still. . . feisty), Rei develops a healthy personality, and Gendo isn't a complete monster.

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FREMDFIRMA

Sunday, March 21, 2010 8:41 PM

Yanno, cause folk cannot keep their personal vendetta nastiness over in RWED where it belongs, imma make good on a bit of that threat.

Now, lemme explain that one...

Firstoff, I dislike that whole end of anime, it's not even anime, but more properly referred to as hentai, basically animated porn, and since I have no taste for actual porn, what the hell interest would I have in that garbage ?
Hell, Elfen Lied tripped some of my more prudish bent and that's the primary reason I didn't reccommend it, despite it being a story about the way people (human, diclonus, whatever) turn out in direct relation to how they are treated, a philosophy quite near and dear to me - the only diclonii even *close* to normal in that was Nana, because she was treated with the tiniest bit of (albiet AT THE TIME false, it wasn't later on) kindness.

Anyhows, yon sock puppets fascination there says more about them than it'd ever have any impact on me beyond pissin me off.

And, lemme point out to you that I used to go to the conventions, which have ever sucked ever worse over the past decade or so (I quit goin) mostly cause my friends went, and since the hotels in question will apply a fine to your room bill if your brats are left unattended by anyone sober enough to watch them, guess who wound up with ALL the little mungers trailing behind him like a demented pied piper since they had orders to go find me once mommy and/or daddy had drunk themselves stupid - not to mention my notorious everfull pockets of candy, something that's been a fact since I was their age, really.

And it started with being tasked to vet a game for someones kid, the parents couldn't be bothered to actually rent and play the stupid thing, so they dumped it on me to judge whether or not it was suitable for their kid, game in question being the PS1 version of Rhapsody.
(the DS version sucks, as they stripped out most of what made it so charming)

And thus, GUESS WHO gets stuck with having to pre-vet the anime these peoples kids are begging for xmas/birthday/whatever, in order to ensure it's actually suitable for their age group, because those ratings are about freakin worthless, honestly.

And since they know this, and can't get any other adult to watch it with em, and trying to discuss it with someone who ain't watched it is kinda pointless, again, guess who gets rooked into watching this stuff with em ?
(besides, it keeps em in one place and out of trouble during the convention, neh ?)

Ergo, I've seen a LOT of happy-fluffy childrens anime, and would be more than happy to share the misery, so it'd be ill advised to tempt me, there.

Now buzz off or I might slap you senseless with a Yotsuba Koiwai doll.

-Frem

PS - the idea of wussy-boy (I *refuse* to dignify that critter with an actual name) being well adjusted is a miracle beyond my comprehension, I ain't exactly sure I could suspend disbelief that far...

My ex watched NGE, and I have been very reluctant to find her a copy of end of evangelion cause if anything, the main characters are even more messed up by then, and for some odd reason she has a better opinion of em than I do, which I am loath to demolish by showing her that one.

FREMDFIRMA

Monday, March 22, 2010 1:46 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Are you tryin' to make me poor? Deplete my existing DVD collection?
I'm done with anime for a while I think, once I've seen all of what I've got (and ordered).
Last Exile will complete my anime collection for now. My next & last order for this year.

Well, as they say..
Anime: Crack is Cheaper.

The key to it is patience, really, like an owl, you sit back, watch and wait, and then when an opportunity presents itself, you strike.

But it's the waiting that drives folk batty, most of em, sure.

Like, say, Le Chevalier D'Eon - complete collection super pack, retails for $184, could maybe nail it on amazon or somewhere for $50-$60
And I bagged it off today for $19.99, then backed it up by carrying off Pumpkin Scissors complete (retail $75+) for $22.50

And if you REALLY wanna brick-passer, that silly little clip I posted, the series it's from, Snow Fairy Sugar ?
Go on Amazon and have a look at what the full box set of THAT would cost you!
(I paid $58 for it, complete with summer special DVD and promo items)

But yeah, with money bein tight these days it's hard to stretch it so far - that bein one reason I picked out the ones I did to reccommend, since most of them you can get good bargains on.

What I do is set aside what I mean to pay for a set, and wait till it's in that price range to jump on it, and anything left over goes back into the budget - I got $29+S&H set up for Planetes, when I can find it from a decent distributor, and since imma be talkin to someone with connections soon about something else, it's a pretty good bet I'll nail it for that.

I like to watch em, but also consider it a financial investment of sorts too, cause man, what some of this stuff carries in value is insane - even *I* can't afford most of the Captain Harlock stuff, yeesh.

-Frem

CHRISISALL

Monday, March 22, 2010 2:37 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

And if you REALLY wanna brick-passer, that silly little clip I posted, the series it's from, Snow Fairy Sugar ?
Go on Amazon and have a look at what the full box set of THAT would cost you!
(I paid $58 for it

BWAHAHAHAHAHA....

Er... sorry Frem.

The laughing Chrisisall

"I only do it to to remind you that I'm right and that deep down, you know I'm right, you want me to be right, you need me to be right." - The Imperial Hero Strikes Back, 2010

CHRISISALL

Monday, March 22, 2010 2:57 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
I got $29+S&H set up for Planetes, when I can find it from a decent distributor, and since imma be talkin to someone with connections soon about something else, it's a pretty good bet I'll nail it for that.

Do it man; I'm on ep # 8, & it just keeps getting better!

On another note, we just got Castle In The Sky-
REALLY cool.

The laughing Chrisisall

"I only do it to to remind you that I'm right and that deep down, you know I'm right, you want me to be right, you need me to be right." - The Imperial Hero Strikes Back, 2010

CHRISISALL

Monday, March 22, 2010 5:16 AM

I'm having one of those "Out Of Gas" moments here with Planetes... not nearly as intense, but there nonetheless.
This show it great. The character development is better than I expected.

The laughing Chrisisall

"I only do it to to remind you that I'm right and that deep down, you know I'm right, you want me to be right, you need me to be right." - The Imperial Hero Strikes Back, 2010

CYBERSNARK

Monday, March 22, 2010 2:50 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
PS - the idea of wussy-boy (I *refuse* to dignify that critter with an actual name) being well adjusted is a miracle beyond my comprehension, I ain't exactly sure I could suspend disbelief that far...

Well, all of Shinji's problems stem from his mother's death (which was the cause of Gendo abandoning him, of Shinji's fatalism and depression, of NERV going Dark Side and causing the End of the World, and of Shinji's psyche not being strong enough to stand up to the Eva). All for the loss of one person.

Angelic Days is based on that scene in ep 27, where we get a glimpse of Shinji's "perfect possible world," where his mother is still alive (and thus his parents are still together, Gendo is. . . distant, if not really malevolent, Shinji has actual friends, and is psychologically strong enough to actually risk caring for others). It actually manages to make Evangelion more tragic, because we get to see just what Shinji lost out on --he's actually a likable goofball.

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We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.

FREMDFIRMA

Monday, March 22, 2010 8:39 PM

Yeah, yeah, go ahead and laugh, but given I can turn it around for five to six times what I paid if I really wanted too - besides, I do like to keep a stock of kid-friendly anime stuff on hand for when I get the little mungers pawned off on me for a while, not to mention the happy-fluffy stuff is a right handy antidote to the rest of the worlds constant bombardment with hostility and violence, yanno ?

S'why I like Nausicaa and Yuna so much, cause they're exemplars of how you *CAN* solve problems in other ways than violence, and where else can you find that kinda thing in media nowadays ?

But also, here's the rub...
(FHWOOP FHWOOP, RANT WARNING, RANT WARNING!)

I've always had issues with the ephemeral here-today-gone-tomorrow nature of the internet, and I truly hate goin back to look at somethin and it's gone, hell, I fully expected this site to be gone within a year when I signed up to it.

But it's not just that, oh how to explain - on the one end, you have media companies who would, were it any kinda possible, charge you for EACH time you watched something, or EACH time you listened to a song, and because of that I severely dislike not having the media itself under my control.

Look at how Kindle demonstrated the dark side of that, for example.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/18/technology/companies/18amazon.html
Most ironic, given the works in question, neh ?

As long as someone other than me has access to the media, forget it.
Whether it be something like Kindle, or streaming content, or even a game that *demands* I hook up to the internet and "verify" it in order to play it solo, that kind of thing can kiss my patootie!

I *want* my content on a durable media, fully in MY possession, and useable on a device that BELONGS TO ME, unafflicted by rootkits, backdoors or boobytraps, that I know *for a fact* will play my media now, today, when *I* want to watch it, and it'll do that tomorrow, and the next day, and the next, as well.

My ex isn't like that, once she has watched something once, she could care less, but I prefer to occassionally revisit those other worlds, cause good stuff, like Firefly, stands many a rewatching and it only enhances the experience for me - and so I am extremely untrusting of folks who've proven utterly untrustworty, and I want that media, and the ability to play it, in MY hands, and my hands alone.

I've been likened to a dragon for that, my media, precious metals, uncut gems, all those things precious to me I want right in my care, just about sittin on top of em like ole Smaug, sure - but that's my way, yanno ?

So for me, I gotta OWN it, although once money has changed hands I don't exactly have any compunctions about sneakin a preview by watching it online somewhere, either.

Still, you wanna take *MY* stuff, you'll be comin through me and Forquet to get it, instead of reaching out with ghostly electronic fingers and flipping a switch to snatch it away so easily, and that kinda security is worth the dosh I invest in it, leastways to me it is.

I am kinda interested in some of netflix, the ex showed me that they have a nice collection that can be hit up with more or less a point and click interface, but again, what happens when you go back to watch it and they're not carryin it no more - ask em to mail it to you and then get cockblocked and deliberately stalled in the queue cause how dare you actually USE the service you're paying for (same problem with "unlimited" internet, neh?) and again, you do it their way, or no way - screw that.

So my current interest is to find a way to spin off a copy of the stuff they offer via direct stream, for personal use only, which is a completely legal fair use of the media, since you *are* paying for it, but I am pretty certain that what with the control issues big media has, there's some technical screwery under the guise of copy-protection, bleh - trust me, some of that stuff ain't no one else would much wanna watch anyhows, and they can buy their own damn

CHRISISALL

Monday, March 29, 2010 3:59 AM

Blue Submarine #6 was...
not all that.
Watchable fun & nonsense, but I'll be selling it to pay for (in part) Last Exile.

The laughing Chrisisall

"I only do it to to remind you that I'm right and that deep down, you know I'm right, you want me to be right, you need me to be right." - The Imperial Hero Strikes Back, 2010

FREMDFIRMA

Monday, March 29, 2010 4:59 AM

Good to know.

As mentioned, I just got my collectors edition of Le Chevalier D'Eon - and it was top-tier awesome.
http://www.funimation.com/lechevalierdeon/

In fact, so awesome, given that Rightstuf is currently offering the full out, bells on collectors edition so cheaply - I am very tempted to front it to you Chris, gratis.
http://www.rightstuf.com/1-800-338-6827/catalogmgr/u59JJ8nWL66MfRyZfd/
browse/item/80499/4/153/100

-F

CHRISISALL

Monday, March 29, 2010 5:13 AM

Yo, thanks severely, but my thing is in space, SF, or martial arts (preferably all three), and this doesn't seem to qualify.

The laughing Chrisisall

"I only do it to to remind you that I'm right and that deep down, you know I'm right, you want me to be right, you need me to be right." - The Imperial Hero Strikes Back, 2010

FREMDFIRMA

Monday, March 29, 2010 6:01 AM

No worries, of course, just the WAY you said that now has me thinkin funny thoughts...

KUNG FU ALIENS, FROM OUTER SPACE!

And you'd have to do it in cheezy red/blue "3D" too, to get the maximum bad B-flick atmosphere...

*snicker*

-F

CHRISISALL

Monday, March 29, 2010 2:26 PM

Imagine my thrill in the theatre seeing Serenity for the first time... SF... in space...
Then River starts with the Kung Fu in the Maidenhead!!!!
Any wonder it's my favourite flick of all time?

The laughing Chrisisall

"I only do it to to remind you that I'm right and that deep down, you know I'm right, you want me to be right, you need me to be right." - The Imperial Hero Strikes Back, 2010

CLJOHNSTON108

Monday, May 24, 2010 9:07 PM

Oooooh! They've added Last Exile to Hulu!! (Too bad I can't post a link to it!)

From what I've seen in the last 10 minutes, this is the most imaginative design work since Wings of Honneamise!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Exile
http://www.dvdverdict.com/reviews/lastexile.php

What say you, Chris? Beats PLANETES by a mile, wouldn't you agree?

FREMDFIRMA

Monday, May 24, 2010 9:45 PM

Well, imho it's definately a top-tier work, but I can't really go on about it without spoilerin, so I won't.

That said, there's one or two minor quibbles with the story assuming you know (or could infer) a few things most folk don't really ever pick up on, one of which is kinda key to the story, but it's completely enjoyable as-is, mind.

-F

CHRISISALL

Monday, May 24, 2010 11:10 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by cljohnston108:

What say you, Chris? Beats PLANETES by a mile, wouldn't you agree?

The animation & level of free creativity? From what I see here, certainly. It's my next anime.

The laughing Chrisisall

CLJOHNSTON108

Monday, May 24, 2010 11:49 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
The animation & level of free creativity? From what I see here, certainly. It's my next anime.

Yeah, man! This is the kinda stuff I live for, where they put thought into the smallest detail, so that the non-Earth culture is only barely similar to ours. (I wish they'd done that with nuGalactica!)
Did you see Wings of Honneamise?
(Sadly, I hear that the only available DVD of it is a really crappy transfer.)

FREMDFIRMA

Tuesday, May 25, 2010 4:59 AM

Looks a lil interesting, guy reminds me of my first couple months of army basic, everyone thought me a useless lazy bag o rags - then they handed me a rifle...

Which is kinda presumably what happens to this guy.

Where's it fall on the Moh Scale ?
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MohsScaleOfScienceFictionHa
rdness

Lookin into an old 2006 game at the moment, which may be of interest: Sword of the Stars

If I can find a copy, I'll let ya know - but honestly it was the motto which caught my eye.
Repensum Est Canicula.
(Latin: Payback's A Bitch.)

-Frem

JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, October 13, 2022 9:51 PM

so many animations, maybe

Rick and Morty bit 'good art' maybe not but its fun, Last Days of Coney Island, Batman the animated series, Avengers EMH, Heavy Traffic, Ren & Stimpy, Japan anime Akira, KungFu Panda, Incredibles animation, Triplets of Belleville aka Les Triplettes de Bellevilleaka Belleville Rendez-vous, Wizards, Heavy Metal, Watership Down, Fritz the Cat, Wallace and Gromit, Persepolis, The Hobbit 1977, Wall-E, American Pop, The Last Airbender series, The Animatrix, Love Death and Robots, How to Train Your Dragon

JAYNEZTOWN

Sunday, April 30, 2023 1:06 AM

A clever kids show, hopefully its backed up on bitchute or odysee

"Cybersix"?

JAYNEZTOWN

Sunday, May 7, 2023 4:19 PM

Aeon Flux seemed weird and interesting

more Hollyweird scandals continue

Rick and Morty's animator, writer, producer Roiland was arrested and charged with felony domestic battery and false imprisonment in Orange County, California

He was also accused of sexual harassment of a female writer in the third season of Rick & Morty, and other uncomfortable behavior in the workplace, with these claims formally investigated by Cartoon Network and Adult Swim in 2020. Adult Swim announced later that month that Roiland had been dismissed from Rick and Morty, and that his roles would be recast for future seasons.

Æon Flux - Pilot

vimeo
.com/
691213956

JAYNEZTOWN

Tuesday, May 21, 2024 3:43 AM

they remake old XMen toons now

6IXSTRINGJACK

Tuesday, May 21, 2024 4:24 AM

Yeah. Been hearing about this one for over a year.

They chopped off Rogue's tits, didn't hire the lady who originally did Jubilee's voice because how dare a white actress voice a part-Asian in 2024, and they made Morph a non-binary kid fucker or something. I dunno.

Nah. I'm good. The X-Men cartoon can remain just a memory from my childhood. This will not be watched.

--------------------------------------------------

Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

JAYNEZTOWN

Wednesday, June 19, 2024 7:25 PM

'Final Space' but maybe not 'Good Animation' but good story they have entertainment and the show has moments of fun

it seems AI will also change art and its only time before the Artificial Machine Art makes a toon.

a lot of Western Art studios seem dead, dying with the Commiefornia drug addict apocalypse

studios have been moving to South Korea and other places for a while, places like Japan always had soft power with Video Games.
Rather than South Korea copying Japan product this time the Japanese have copied South Koreans, Kami no Tou or the Tower of God is an animation or anime
but not sure if good.

JAYNEZTOWN

Sunday, July 7, 2024 1:46 AM

'Blackstone sees billions in manga. You should too.'

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/commentary/2024/06/28/japan/blackstone-bu
ys-mecha-comics-manga/

JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, August 1, 2024 4:51 PM

Flow is film about a cat or other animals surviving with other creatures on a boat after the world is devastated by a great flood, seems to be a Belgium / Latvia production but no news on the Budget

JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, August 29, 2024 12:22 AM

The Legend Of Vox Machina Season 3

JAYNEZTOWN

Saturday, September 7, 2024 1:10 AM

Japan odd horror weird dark

Uzumaki

JAYNEZTOWN

Tuesday, October 15, 2024 10:50 PM

SKorean tv winning, Japan and indie toons outselling Hollyweird

Death of animation as a career and fear about America’s future

JAYNEZTOWN

Tuesday, November 5, 2024 3:15 AM

So here is some of the chat out there on film tv movie message boards

there is still some good material out there, although Hollyweird tv and movies have been crashing, some have lost ability to do sound and art...maybe too many drugs in Commiefornia? Brands like 'Avatar' still have lots of fans, the 90s are retro again so have come back with X-Men and Batman toons. Some art admittedly has been terrible and they are trying to ruin video games with politics forced into gaming companies broadcasting forced political messages during the gaming experience. Hollyweird through some form of cancel culture has been trying t o destroy comedy and only approve its own political messages. It has allowed foreign movies to come back and Japan toons the manga and anime to be a hit with the new generation. All is not terrible, Love, Death & Robots is fun at times and strange and gruesome, like the Twilight Zone an episode can have any number of topics, Trese is the other level of weird spooky magic ghostly supernatural crime drama experience, Pacific Heat looks like an adult 'Archer' spin off, Scissor Seven a dark Asia China Dystopia kungfu wuxia influenced toon comedy with rivaling factions. Infinity Train is weird spacey 'out there' LSD trippy and Rick and Morty another, Venture Bros a wacky parody of genres, The Midnight Gospel very trippy and 'Final Space' very out there fun scifi. One Piece has become a hit tv show while Fullmetal Alchemist got a Japan B-movie. Trollhunters with CGI, there has been Ark The Animated Series Attack on Titan is kind of strange and dark, fighting giant fleshy people that eat humans in a medieval post apocalypse steam punk looking world, maybe not for all.

A tv show Primal is fun and raw, Cavemen riding Dinosaurs, JoJo's Bizarre Adventure is still going, Castlevania was a huge hit a USA studio but anime Japan video game inspired and seems to be a joint US Japan product, Twilight of the Gods another of the latest Western shows with Viking art while Arcane gets respect for its slick CGI animation. There are products out there that take themselves serious as Dunegosn and Dragons type fantasy stuff Dota Dragon's Blood, some products are a Canadian-Korean adult animated fantasy television series or Chinese or French or Japan USA but maybe take themselves too serious while missing the humor you might find in Anime or a show like Futurama...it makes me think other foreign animation studios are not too far behind and can challenge the USA, the French, the Japanese. "Serial Experiments Lain" is a new brand and Carmen Sandiego but there are generations who liked the old anime Miyazaki, Akira, Ghost in the shell, just as there are generation who liked old Disney, Flinstones, The Real Ghostbusters, or X-Men and Batman 90s toons or Invader Zim, some are still fans of the Star Trek The Animated Series 1973-1975. Japan gets to do LOTR and Terminator Zero because few people trust Hollyweird with franchise products these days. Vox machina a Dungeons and Dragons comedy is respected on prime and Over the Garden Wall is a very well rated and well respected an American animated television miniseries. Psycho-Pass and Steins Gate from Japan are praised for their adult story telling, I might go back to 'Pantheon' is an American adult animated science fiction drama, what I watched of it was enjoyable.

Properties get remade and recycled and revamped all the time, the DC and Marvel stuff for example made into the latest cartoon.
There is stuff out there I did not even hear of 'Voltron Legendary Defender' and an interesting trailer Blood of Zeus, before superheros or the USA was even a thing based on the stories of Greece or a Greek mythology toon

'Netflix' seems to have also become a toon animation studio these past months and years, Hulu has stuff, Japan has other stuff, French and Japanese have huge animation history, Disney Animation Studios, Pixar, Dreamworks are still the giants but they d

JAYNEZTOWN

Wednesday, January 8, 2025 4:13 AM

‘Star Trek: Prodigy’ Nominated by 2024 Golden Reel Awards

https://trekmovie.com/2025/01/07/star-trek-prodigy-nominated-for-sound
-editors-guild-award/

JAYNEZTOWN

Monday, January 13, 2025 6:36 AM

Ghost in the Shell - Opening

Overseas Japan Toon

Dorohedoro Season 2 Confirms 2025 Release With New Update
https://comicbook.com/anime/news/dorohedoro-season-2-anime-2025-update/

JAYNEZTOWN

Saturday, January 25, 2025 1:02 AM

‘Pantheon’ Season 2 to Stream For The First Time on Netflix, All 8 Episodes Premiere February 21

https://www.whats-on-netflix.com/news/pantheon-season-2-to-stream-for-
the-first-time-on-netflix/

Cool World in 1992 very strange

JAYNEZTOWN

Friday, March 7, 2025 2:47 AM

politics

Zelensky meets JD Vance

https://x.com/Freedom_Toons/status/1897730941528998078

JAYNEZTOWN

Saturday, March 22, 2025 2:14 PM

Elio, an outsider on Earth

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15403864/

Redline 2009 Opening Race Scene

JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, May 29, 2025 4:48 AM

official a Webtoon not 'Anime'

Winners of 9th Crunchyroll Awards revealed
The Korean animation “Solo Leveling” won the Anime of the Year

https://mb.com.ph/2025/05/26/winners-of-9th-crunchyroll-awards-reveale
d

Newgrounds

Pro Anime AI Video Generation Platform Animon.ai Launches in Korea
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/pro-anime-ai-video-generation-010000
805.html
CreateAI Holdings ("CreateAI" or the "Company") today announced market entry in Korea and significant updates to its groundbreaking AI anime video generation platform

maybe not scifi but...

Baby Trump and Musk feature in Russian propaganda cartoon for toddlers
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2025/05/27/baby-trump-and-musk-fea
ture-russian-propaganda-cartoon/

JAYNEZTOWN

Tuesday, June 3, 2025 3:52 PM

Flee California?...No Flee Texas!

some psycho Presenting someone with the skull of their dog

King of the Hill voice actor shot, killed

,

breaking news about a famous gay voice actor killed in Texas

‘King of the Hill’ voice actor Jonathan Joss fatally shot in Texas

https://x.com/mmonster_co/status/1929836985285247259

,

https://www.tmz.com/2025/06/02/king-of-the-hill-jonathan-joss-dead-sho
t-san-antonio-texas-voice-actor/

'When we returned to the site to check our mail we discovered the skull of one of our dogs and its harness placed in clear view. This caused both of us severe emotional distress. We began yelling and crying in response to the pain of what we saw.
While we were doing this a man approached us. He started yelling violent homophobic slurs at us. He then raised a gun from his lap and fired.'

seems he is or was gay and there seems to be threats reported by the boyfriend or husband?

'Jonathan Joss and I were involved in a shooting while checking the mail at the site of our former home. That home was burned down after over two years of threats from people in the area who repeatedly told us they would set it on fire. We reported these threats to law enforcement multiple times and nothing was done.'

,

https://x.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1929635552782856673

JAYNEZTOWN

Tuesday, June 24, 2025 3:11 AM

Predator: Killer of Killers Official Trailer

Hulu

JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, June 26, 2025 3:32 PM

Oats Studios - Gdansk

JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, June 26, 2025 3:34 PM

Would tv and movie product like Tales from the Loop, Dimension 404, Tales from the Darkside work better as animations

Sci-Fi Short Film: "Parallel Man"