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Good Low Budget and Independent Flicks

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UPDATED: Tuesday, September 1, 2026 02:34
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Friday, July 14, 2023 3:55 AM (P)

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Red Door fudged the numbers. They take credit for $5M of preview sales (likely midnight Thursday) on Thursday, but then also include those same $5M again on Friday - double counting. Red Door made about $10M on both Friday and Saturday.

Do you have proof of this? I don't see anything on The Numbers mentioning it, and if Bruce is adding $5M to Friday and double counting, that's the first I've ever seen him do so. Either that, or he always counts the preview numbers in the first Friday's numbers for every movie that comes out on a Friday and SoF just didn't have a benefit of having a "preview Monday" because they decided to release it on a Tuesday instead of a Friday. And if that's the case, it's not shady accounting... it's just how the accounting is always done, which in this unique case is a shame.

If that is how Bruce calculates Opening Friday, I'd like to know that with something showing that it is the case. It will be something I'd never considered and wasn't aware of before.

It definitely would explain why he never counts Thursday Preview money in with the total money earned. I always wondered why preview money wasn't counted in the Domestic Box Office totals.

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Alright. I said "Double counted" and maybe that was imprecise.
I meant that they counted the same money on Thursday that they also counted again on Friday, but they didn't add the Thursday onto the total twice. Hope that makes sense.
On Thursday, The Numbers wants to give it headlines for the dollars for the Midnight showings. The midnight showings are technically Friday showings, because the films are embargoed until the Friday dates. That is exactly the reason for having Midnight Showings for opening shows. When the show time is 12:01 AM, then the dollars are likely handed to the Box Office on Thursday, before midnight.
On Friday, The Numbers only shows $15M for Friday, with a grand total of $15M. Which means the $5M posted as Thursday was just rolled into Friday's figure, and actual Friday only had $10M - about the same as on Saturday.
I saw no rationalizations written on the site about it, but the NUMBERS don't lie, just The Numbers - haha.

Hope that explains. I was not trying to be obtuse or deceptive. I had thought you already knew this from the posted data. You seem to follow the site a while, I haven't much.

No... I'm glad you brought this up. Like I said, I always wondered why preview numbers were never counted in the total numbers before, and I also noticed that about 99 times out of 100 that Friday's numbers for a brand new movie are almost always higher than Saturday's numbers, which also didn't make sense to me since most folk work all day on Friday.

Just writing that reply to you last night I think I kind of worked out in my head what was going on. I just never did before because although I remember finding both of those things odd, I never really put any serious thought into them before.

I still would like to see it stated somewhere that this is what is going on for sure, but even without having that in writing somewhere I can't think of any other plausible way to explain it.


So yeah... Another good point you bring up there. But nothing really can be done about it since a Tuesday release doesn't get Monday night previews.
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Wed was first day for Dead Reckoning. supposed to have $15.5M
Supposed to have midnight Tuesday take of $7M. Which would mean Wed was actually only $8.5M - for likely 4-5 show time slots, compared to only 1 slot for midnight Tuesday.
The totals

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Friday, July 21, 2023 5:13 AM (P)

Hollyweird learns no lessons, expensive multi million Dollar projects some cost hundreds of Millions and yet the movie Flops

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Friday, July 21, 2023 11:05 PM (P)

Documentaries

The next Hubble Telescope JWST itself cost billions

but Documentary are usually cheap-ish, public NASA images and following scientists around with a documentary cam-corder.

Netflix, NatGeo, PBS NOVA maybe BBC and others will have their own story



Tom Cruise 'sees huge potential in Steve Irwin's son and wants to recruit him to Scientology'

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/us-celebrity-news/tom-cruise-sees-huge-po
tential-30428705


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Thursday, August 3, 2023 12:51 AM (P)

SOUND OF FREEDOM Continues to Defy Box Office Expectations

https://www.movieguide.org/news-articles/sound-of-freedom-continues-to
-defy-box-office-expectations.html

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Monday, August 7, 2023 5:56 AM (P)

Not sure if good but it looks low budget

Triggered (aka Topakk) Philippines

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Wednesday, August 9, 2023 12:23 AM (P)

Make the Case: 5 Classic Movies About AI (That Aren’t Terminator)
https://culturedvultures.com/classic-movies-about-ai-that-arent-termin
ator
/

Final Destination 6 Will Expand The Horror Franchise's Universe, Teases Creator
https://screenrant.com/final-destination-6-horror-universe-expansion-c
reator-response
/

Japan
https://blog.indiecinema.co/japanese-cinema/

Netflix Should Cut Its Own Deal with Writers and Actors, According to This Analyst
https://www.indiewire.com/news/business/analyst-netflix-deal-writers-a
ctors-strike-1234888359
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Wednesday, August 9, 2023 12:42 AM (P)

Netflix should fire all of its writers and hire a few people to manage AI.

Fuck Netflix writers ruining everything they touch.

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Friday, August 11, 2023 6:51 PM (P)

Probably low budget....How to Kill Monsters...not sure if good



'The Continental' looks more, expensive, I think its a tv pilot and then series is scheduled to premiere on Peacock in the USA.

Mel Gibson is back, he was drinking for a while when he got married to Oksana Grigorieva in 2009 and controversial statements leaked to the public. In 2013, Grigorieva sued her attorneys, accusing them of advising her to sign a bad agreement, including one with Gibson that states that if she takes legal action against him, her previous settlement will be compromised. In 2014 a judge ruled that Oksana had violated a confidentiality clause due to a conversation she had on the Howard Stern Radio Show where Gibson was mentioned; she lost half of her $750,000 award



They probably have the season Green Lighted

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Tuesday, August 15, 2023 6:16 AM (P)

Some of the films in this thread are decent candidates:

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=2&tid=36099

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Monday, August 21, 2023 2:05 AM (P)

Portuguese language Pictures of Ghosts? Lost Cinemas in Brazil



Greek weird crazy Lovercraft horror 'Minore'

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Monday, August 21, 2023 4:33 PM (P)

maybe its time to go back and watch old horror like Pumpkin Head

or perhaps South Korean again
The Round Up maybe



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Friday, August 25, 2023 4:19 PM (P)

Goldfinger is an upcoming Hong Kong action crime thriller Although if rumors I read on the nudget are correct it might be twice the budget allowed in this thread 30-45 million to Us dollars, usually HK made movies for the prices of peanuts

Denmark
Nice Camera work and costumes, I'm not sure about the budget

Promised Land - poor soldier arrives in 1755 on barren Jutland heath with a single goal to follow the king's call to cultivate the land and thereby achieve wealth / honors



Seems to be the story of a real guy Ludvig Kahlen, who set out to conquer the harsh, uninhabitable Danish heath

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Friday, August 25, 2023 4:42 PM (P)

Directed by Felix Chong, and starring Tony Leung and Andy Lau and set in the 1980s

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Saturday, August 26, 2023 11:10 PM (P)

I recently watched a video on YouTube called "When the Director forgets to say Cut", that discussed scenes that were filmed in one continuous take, such as the awesome hallway scene from the otherwise middling TV show Daredevil that Netflix put out before Disney bought up Marvel and removed it from cannon.

But the main emphasis of the video was an entire 2 hour and 8 minute film called Victoria from 2015 that was filmed in one continuous shot.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4226388/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_q_vi
ctoria%25202015


I've been meaning to watch it, but it's just so hard for me to start a movie or a TV show these days. When I get around to watching it I'll let you know if it's any good or not.

It was filmed for less than half-a-million Euros in 2014, so whatever the exchange rate was back then it would certainly fit in this thread.



I'm not expecting Grade A cinema here. From what I've gathered, the entire screenplay of the movie consisted of about a dozen pages and the actors were directed to not only improvise, but to never use the same line in two rehearsals or two takes. He didn't want them to collect a "best of" material list and wanted the dialogue to come off as authentic and in the moment. As the director, he just told them how they should be acting toward each other and what they were feeling at different points in the movie, and the dialogue was left up to them. There were only minor things the director and crew could do to move the plot along when it needed to be, such as calling one of the actors on their cell phones.

But to me the idea that you could even film an entire 2+ hour movie that bounces around from set to set in one single take is fascinating. It would have to be horribly boring or the worst acting I've ever seen to make me dislike it given what they pulled off here.

It appears they had enough money in the budget to try it 3 times. The first time the acting was far too wooden and reserved. The second time went way to far the other way and was sloppy and off the chain. The director feels that the 3rd take was perfect.

In order to even get the funding from the investors, he had to promise them that he would also make a traditionally edited version of the movie just in case the continuous shot didn't pan out.


Here's the scene from Daredevil in case you never saw it or you forgot how good it was:



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Sunday, August 27, 2023 2:17 AM (P)

Have you ever seen Rope by Hitchcock? Or know of it?

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Sunday, August 27, 2023 5:51 AM (P)

I have not, and I do not. It was one continuous take, I gather?

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Sunday, August 27, 2023 4:50 PM (P)

Maybe not a full movie but a scifi film short

'Dragon Fruit'



there are other channels like Dust, there tv shows like Black Mirror, are also radio visionary podcasts X minus 1 retro scifi, grimdark radio cosmic horror, Find Us Alive, BBC Dangerous Visions, Vast horizon Strange case of starship Iris or 'Love Death and Robots'

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Tuesday, August 29, 2023 5:50 PM (P)

Might be ok, 'Acid' a France Belgium production, 2023 disaster film, thriller, apocalyptic and drama like.



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Tuesday, August 29, 2023 5:54 PM (P)

'Rope' Alfred Hitchcock another on the To-Watch list

also those Hitchcock movies almost always had great emotional Orchestra sound

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"When the Director forgets to say Cut"



For a one take Gravity by Alfonso Cuarón is well done and I know DeNiro is kinda unpopular as he got more politically crazy but 'Taxi Driver' and 'King of Comedy' spring to mind without watching the video the long pans that brings you through his mind and tells story and emotion of a scene, Revisionist Western and Spaghetti Westerns would do it to increase tension but it would be interesting to see how possible it is to make a good movie while doing the longest of long shots without saying cut, Game of Thrones, Oldboy did that 'One Take' fight scene, I have not seen 'Extraction'. Silent House -- a re-imagining of the Uruguayan horror film La Casa Muda is another.

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Tuesday, August 29, 2023 6:12 PM (P)

the original Silent House,
La Casa Muda

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Tuesday, August 29, 2023 9:56 PM (P)

and of course many old Cinema Classics like the French cinema, HK or Japanese

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Tuesday, August 29, 2023 9:59 PM (P)

Akira Kurosawa's Rashomon - The Allure Of Narrative Unreliability



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Thursday, August 31, 2023 6:34 PM (P)

Not sure if good but...

Bad, Shock, B-Movie, Gore with weird Camp Horror Music


Inferno Of Torture - Japanese capital punishment in the 19th century



it might fall into that brand of 'Horror' or Lone Wolf and Cub
or
Sonny Chiba... he died from Covid

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Wednesday, September 6, 2023 1:31 AM (P)

Pollen 2023 is Low Budget but maybe not very good

maybe not truly indie Government backed or Corporate backed??

Over-Budget $22 million 'Masters of the Universe' it made a Box office $17 million

Not Good but Very Bad or Cult?

https://mutantreviewersmovies.com/2023/08/30/masters-of-the-universe-v
iewing
/

Purple Sunset 2001 an anti-war film set in August 1945, at the time during the Soviet invasion of Manchuria and when the Japanese were in the throes of defeat during World War II and losing control of mainland China



foreign release was in the 2001 Hawaii film festival, it might have been low budget because it got funded by the Chinese government and has some Communist propaganada but it is still respected for interesting camera work and its story telling

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Thursday, September 7, 2023 3:02 AM (P)

Sofia Coppola I know some a still very fanatical about film here but I will dare say she can possible be better than both her Mother and Father...she is already a very different director


Bill Murray, Scarlett Johansson, Giovanni Ribisi, Anna Faris, Fumihiro Hayashi


Budget $4 million



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Friday, September 8, 2023 2:01 AM (P)

The Royal Hotel is a 2023 Australian thriller film

Most Aussie movies are made for under 5 Million

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Wednesday, September 13, 2023 5:38 PM (P)

I assume Japan animation is Low-ish Budget, it can be anywhere between 5$ Million - $25 million



A Horror

It looks Low Budget, not sure if 'Good'

Bloodthirst | Costas Mandylor, Tara Reid and Robert LaSardo



Venus

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Wednesday, September 13, 2023 5:39 PM (P)

For now Hollywood productions are still too expensive

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Wednesday, September 13, 2023 5:40 PM (P)

maybe they can learn lessons from indie movies and overseas film and keep costs low

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Wednesday, September 13, 2023 9:23 PM (P)

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
For now Hollywood productions are still too expensive

maybe they can learn lessons from indie movies and overseas film and keep costs low



Have you seen my 2 new charts at the top of the Hollywood thread?

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=65735

$4,836,453,077 spent on the budgets for 53 US made movies so far released in 2023.

$13,218,766,641 so far grossed Worldwide on them, or 273%.

A profit of only $3,697,008,144 with the 2.0x Rule of Thumb.

And only a profit of $1,363,781,606 with the 2.5x Rule of Thumb, which is more likely in 2023.


30 of 53 movies have made profit so far with the 2.0x Rule of Thumb.

Only 21 of those movies have made profit with 2.5xRoT.

Barbie (6th place) is the only movie in the top 10 that cost more than $100 Million (at $145M).

Super Mario Bros (4th place), Oppenheimer (7th place) and Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse (9th place) all cost $100 Million.

Missing (10th place) cost $7 Million. Evil Dead Rise (8th Place) cost $19 Million. Insidious: The Red Door (6th Place) cost $16 Million. Talk To Me (3rd Place) cost $4.5 Million. Sound of Freedom (2nd Place) cost $14.5 Million. M3GAN (1st Place) cost $12 Million).

The combined production budgets for the top 10 movies in 2023 on September 10th is $516 Million. They have so far grossed $5,171,466,310 worldwide (or 1,002% of their combined budgets)

The combined production budgets for the 6 movies in the Top Ten that cost less than $100 Million to make was $73 Million. They have so far grossed $831,524,487 worldwide (or 1,139% of their combined budgets).

Universal has done something right this year. Even with the 2.5x RoT it's grossed $1,368,935,690 in 2023, which is slightly more than Hollywood combined has grossed with 2.5x RoT after you subtract all the losers. It's had success with both big(ish) budget movies like Super Mario Bros ($100 Million) & Oppenheimer ($100 Million), as well as low budget movies like M3GAN ($12 Million) and to a lesser degree with Knock at the Cabin ($20 Million) & Cocaine Bear ($35 Million). Although for what they were the last two cost too much money to make and they did little more than break even on them with RoT 2.5x.

Universal's only actual misstep in 2023 was giving an $86 Million budget to Renfield. Whoever greenlit that was probably fired a long time ago now. That one lost them over $180 Million, keeping them from being able to brag that they've banked over $1.5 Billion so far.

But at least they're not Disney...

Disney doesn't even show up on the list with its monstrous budgets until 18th Place.

And they've only got one movie that doesn't lose money with the 2.5x RoT out of the 6 releases they've had so far this year (7 if you include Peter Pan & Wendy that they dumped on Disney+ after spending $170 Million to make it, which I do).

Disney's entire combined budget for 7 movies this year was $1,527,750,000 (or 31.6% of Hollywood's entire combined budget for Top 100 movies in 2023).

Disney has only grossed $2,817,720,674 off of those 7 movies (or 184% of the budgets). It loses on both the RoT models with $67,779,326 in the red for 2.0x and a staggering $746,654,326 loss with RoT 2.5x.

The combined losses for the 6 studios who lost money in 2023 with the 2.5x RoT is $1,359,683,018. Of that figure, Disney accounts for 55% of the 2023 losses so far.

Check out the Studios chart:

2023 WINNERS AND LOSERS (STUDIOS)
By PROFIT ACCORDING TO 2.0x Rule of Thumb (RoT)

Up to date as of 09/10/2023


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Monday, September 18, 2023 3:51 PM (P)

That Dated Retro Look



Cinematography & Cameras
https://filmcourage.com/2023/09/15/how-to-get-a-retro-70s-film-look/
How To Get A Retro 70s Film Look


Is This the End of Existing IP Domination?
https://screencraft.org/blog/is-this-the-end-of-existing-ip-domination/
Do you need existing IP to make a sale in Hollywood? The answer is a tricky one.

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IP fatigue settles in when the audience doesn’t want to pay money for something they’ve already seen, and it can hurt box office numbers.



Not sure if these will be good but Nowhere is an upcoming fictional survival thriller, plot follows the plight of pregnant woman Mia, fleeing a totalitarian country in a shipping container



Blood Debts
https://monsterhuntermoviereviews.com/2018/05/12/blood-debts-1985/
,
https://www.moviemeter.com/movies/action/blood-debts
,
https://trashy-filipino-war-movies.blogspot.com/2010/02/blood-debts.ht
ml

,
https://www.blu-ray.com/Blood-Debts/1372790/

Arena


https://www.film-nerd.com/arena-1989/
,
https://www.scifi-movies.com/en/short/0000158/arena-1989/
,
https://letterboxd.com/film/arena/
,
https://horrorcultfilms.co.uk/2023/06/arena-1989/

Before big budget Fantasy epic and Game of Thrones was Dragonslayer is a 1981 American dark fantasy film Budget 15$-$20 million

https://www.flickeringmyth.com/2023/03/4k-ultra-hd-review-dragonslayer
-1981
/

The Black Hole before big blockbuster scifi, a Budget 15$-$20 million

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-creeping-celluloids/id158129
3701?i=1000533477604


DeepStar Six

https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/the-undersea-horror-movies-of-the-lat
e-1980s
/

Swing Kids, Dance and War era

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=swingkids.htm

The Chumscrubber

https://www.allmovie.com/movie/the-chumscrubber-vm1927722

Germany 'Afire' or German language Roter Himmel, lit.?'Red Sky'
https://www.filmportal.de/en/movie/roter-himmel_d9ea2ab4d489475b8ae57d
f6b649309f


The Ordinaries
https://theordinaries-film.com/

Foreign language Korean, Dr. Cheon and Lost Talisman

https://www.hancinema.net/korean_movie_Dr_p__Cheon_and_Lost_Talisman.p
hp


,

https://www.kmdb.or.kr/eng/db/kor/detail/movie/K/35055

Mind Universe

https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/987466

Razorback is a 1984 Australian natural horror film

https://aso.gov.au/titles/features/razorback/

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Monday, September 18, 2023 3:54 PM (P)

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30 of 53 movies have made profit so far with the 2.0x Rule of Thumb.

Only 21 of those movies have made profit with 2.5xRoT.



and because films like Barbie and SuperMario made money expect Hollywood to pat itself on the back and reward film remakes of paint by numbers of little imagination?

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Monday, September 18, 2023 9:24 PM (P)

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:


30 of 53 movies have made profit so far with the 2.0x Rule of Thumb.

Only 21 of those movies have made profit with 2.5xRoT.



and because films like Barbie and SuperMario made money expect Hollywood to pat itself on the back and reward film remakes of paint by numbers of little imagination?




Oh sure. You know there's going to be a Barbie 2 and Super Mario Bros. 2.

The real question is, will the people reward their laziness and give them over a Billion each when they come out?

Also, I'm wondering if they're going to try to make Extended Universes for each of them. That's something that only really makes sense in Comic Book movies. People aren't going to come out for a toy figure extended universe very long. They did for LEGO, but it made sense there. Putting He-Man and She-Ra with Barbie and Polly Pocket is just dumb.

And I can't imagine it would be much better with video games. Have the characters from different properties gotten together before? Sure. The Smash Bros. and Super Mario Kart series are some of the most popular franchises ever made. I just don't see how they could make a big budget movie series doing this. And it would be a MUCH bigger budget just because of licensing fees, unless Nintendo was only going to limit it to Nintendo creations which eliminates a lot of the more interesting characters like Mega-Man and the Belmonts. (Both of which were main characters in the 80's cartoon Captain N: The Game Master). Aside from some breakout hits, the Nintendo bench isn't all that deep.



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Saturday, October 7, 2023 12:03 AM (P)

Don't know the budget and not sure if good but its a 2023 American action-thriller with Aaron Eckhart

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Monday, October 23, 2023 6:13 PM (P)

Not sure of budget

Society of the Snow - a sports rugby team crashes on a glacier in the Andes.

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Sunday, June 2, 2024 10:19 PM (P)

already mentioned

Hayao Miyazaki and the Heron Explores the Ghibli Master's Journey on His Latest Film
https://gizmodo.com/hayao-miyazaki-and-the-heron-ghibli-documentary-ca
nnes-1851489162


Official Trailer for 'Join or Die' Doc About America's Civic Unraveling

https://www.firstshowing.net/2024/official-trailer-for-join-or-die-doc
-about-americas-civic-unraveling
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Monday, June 10, 2024 6:29 PM (P)

Remember when Hollywood would make movies on a Budget of $30-50 million


From Japan the movie Godzilla Minus One made ten times its budget, $116 million worldwide on an estimated $10–12 million budget


The Latest Will Smith Bad Boys is considered 'Low' these days with a Budget $100 million

What the hack has happened to product costs?

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Monday, June 10, 2024 11:30 PM (P)

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Remember when Hollywood would make movies on a Budget of $30-50 million


From Japan the movie Godzilla Minus One made ten times its budget, $116 million worldwide on an estimated $10–12 million budget


The Latest Will Smith Bad Boys is considered 'Low' these days with a Budget $100 million

What the hack has happened to product costs?





That's the big question that they're going to have to find an answer to.

Bad Boys: Ride or Die is going to break even, but probably not much more than that. And the really sad thing is that when it does it will be among a group of only 4 or 5 big-budget Hollywood movies in 2024 that didn't lose money so far.

If Ride or Die only carried a reasonable $25 Million budget, it would have been a major success, likely making 10 to 12 times the budget when it's over.

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Thursday, July 4, 2024 3:49 AM (P)

Killer Klowns from Outer Space is wacky and other cult stuff talked about...

and maybe Hundreds of Beavers



The Man from Earth

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0756683/

Dogtooth

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1379182/

Escape from Tomorrow

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2187884/

Dark Star

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069945/

25 Low Budget Films That Launched Careers

https://raindance.org/25-low-budget-films-that-launched-careers/

Blue Ruin

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/blue_ruin

Nomadland

https://godalmingfilmsoc.org.uk/film-archive/2021-22/nomadland/

“One Cut of the Dead”

https://www.tokyoweekender.com/entertainment/movies-tv/one-cut-of-the-
dead-star-yuzuki-akiyama-on-the-movies-surprise-mega-success
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Monday, July 8, 2024 6:37 PM (P)

not sure of budget

‘Jim Henson: Idea Man’ Disney+ Review - Celebrating the Visionary Behind the Muppets

https://moviesr.net/p-jim-henson-idea-man-disney-review-celebrating-th
e-visionary-behind-the-muppets

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Tuesday, July 9, 2024 10:13 PM (P)

not sure if good but Low Budgets


From “Hawkeye Pierce” to “The Hunger Games”; Donald Sutherland, 1935-2024

https://musingsofamiddleagedgeek.blog/2024/06/22/from-hawkeye-pierce-t
o-the-hunger-games-donald-sutherland-1935-2024
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Disc Flight Development (1958) development of the Avrocar, the US military's attempt at making a real life UFO shaped saucer



The 4th Man 1983 review - Paul Verhoeven's

https://thegenrejunkie.com/the-4th-man-1983-review/


HOUSE (1977) Japan surreal absurb



REVIEW: Abigail (2024 Film) - Starring Alisha Weir, Melissa Barrera and Dan Stevens

http://www.beentothemovies.com/2024/04/review-abigail-2024-film-starri
ng.html


Aftershock 1990 — Karate and katanas in the apocalypse

https://mutantreviewersmovies.com/2024/07/01/aftershock-1990-karate-an
d-katanas-in-the-apocalypse
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Forbidden Planet: Futurism at its Best

https://www.themoviejunkie.com/post/the-forbidden-planet-movie-review

Infernal affairs vs The departed



A tribute to Roger Corman, the king of B-movies

https://mutantreviewersmovies.com/2024/05/25/a-tribute-to-roger-corman/

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Monday, August 12, 2024 6:34 PM (P)

Most will not watch this movie 'It Ends With Us' some critics hate it a chick flick with no deeper art message but its another lesson for Hollywood to make money by keeping budgets low

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Oh sure. You know there's going to be a Barbie 2



For now I will call 'It Ends With Us' the mature adult version of Barbie or a low budget Barbie-2?

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Monday, August 12, 2024 9:19 PM (P)

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Most will not watch this movie 'It Ends With Us' some critics hate it a chick flick with no deeper art message but its another lesson for Hollywood to make money by keeping budgets low

Quote:

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Oh sure. You know there's going to be a Barbie 2



For now I will call 'It Ends With Us' the mature adult version of Barbie or a low budget Barbie-2?



What makes you say that?

I know absolutely nothing about it. I don't hate the movie or anything. I'm just trying to wrap my head around its success this weekend. Until Bruce's article on theater counts, I hadn't even heard of it. Without even knowing the budget was only $25 Million, I outright dismissed it as one of the flicks that would get about $10 Million or so on opening and fade away, like the majority of them do every year.

I'm just shocked that a movie with a boring movie poster like that did $50 Million in the US and $80 Million worldwide over the weekend.

As you said in the other thread, a great example for cutting budgets. Good for them. They've already made 18 Million bucks on this one after 3 days. Likely quite a bit more than that because their marketing budget was probably not more than a couple of million.

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Tuesday, August 13, 2024 12:13 AM (P)

Predicting what is going to sell is difficult but


It's a good thing you didn't run a book store, shipping and shopping for book publishers to deliver books for Summer and Christmas and other events and to outsell the other book store down the street. Sure you would have got scifi and maybe the murder thriller books, but women's literature the Chick book what do we know, have we even read this stuff? Japan has manga for women, South Korea have women's dramas, Brazilian and British and French have their soaps, Indian has their own chick lit novel


The West? 50 Shades, the Hogwarths Potter? Bridget Jones’s Diary, Pride and Prejudice, Something Blue, Little Women, Sex in the City?...Memoirs of a Geisha although wrote by a dude its kind of a 'Chick Lit' and most of Joss in a ways is either school drama or is Chick tv / film

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Tuesday, August 13, 2024 12:41 AM (P)

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Predicting what is going to sell is difficult but


It's a good thing you didn't run a book store, shipping and shopping for book publishers to deliver books for Summer and Christmas and other events and to outsell the other book store down the street. Sure you would have got scifi and maybe the murder thriller books, but women's literature the Chick book what do we know, have we even read this stuff? Japan has manga for women, South Korea have women's dramas, Brazilian and British and French have their soaps, Indian has their own chick lit novel


The West? 50 Shades, the Hogwarths Potter? Bridget Jones’s Diary, Pride and Prejudice, Something Blue, Little Women, Sex in the City?...Memoirs of a Geisha although wrote by a dude its kind of a 'Chick Lit' and most of Joss in a ways is either school drama or is Chick tv / film



If I knew how the mind of the female of the species worked, I'd rule the world.

It's a mystery to everyone. Including women.

Men are pretty simple. If we weren't all trying to impress women all the time to fulfill the biological need, we'd be living in caves with our flat screen TVs and tech toys and football.



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Tuesday, August 13, 2024 3:59 AM (P)

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It's easy to be critical when you have never directed a blockbuster or an arthouse film loved by all critics, and maybe you can truly criticize if you had done all this art film and global success without the backing of a huge studio, you made your story, drew it out, started filming and did it all on shoestring budgets

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I liked Princess Mononoke even less than Howl's Moving Castle.



I understand why people don't like him, I think he's good but I don't obsess over his work. I look at Japan animation and Japanese film as a whole and I can take or leave Hayao Miyazaki



I don't feel that I was being over critical of him, and I certainly don't dislike him or any of his work that I've seen. Maybe you think that I do because you quoted that first sentence and didn't bother to read the rest of my post.

My problem was I went into his work by watching what is probably his best piece first. I've never watched a Studio Ghibli production that wasn't good. But when you start off with Spirited Away you're probably going to be let down by everything else. It was just that good.

I enjoyed both Howl's Moving Castle and Princess Mononoke and I'd even watch both of them again. They're sure as hell a lot better than most animation that comes out of the US.

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Tuesday, September 24, 2024 5:03 PM (P)

Cult hits and maybe a Budget more than $20 million

The Running Man (1987) – Arnie vs Stephen King.
https://manapop.com/film/the-running-man-1987-review/

Drunken Angel - Akira Kurosawa's first major cinematic achievement
https://thegenrejunkie.com/drunken-angel-1948-review/

maybe Docu

Off shore islands, Millions a Bangladeshi minister laundered $ millions in Britain, Dubai and USA with help of British solicitors, traders, bankers and property firm, the Panama Papers etc

Documentary - South Korea and Dark World of Chaebols



South Korea eats itself

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Monday, November 4, 2024 5:02 PM (P)

Animated Toons or CGI can be both costly and cheap, B-movies can have bad actors or upcoming actors but are not always "bad" movies

from overseas

SUJO, a Mexico drama

When a cartel gunman is killed, leaving behind Sujo, his 4-year-old son but a strange shadow of violence surrounds Sujo, growing up as a teen he seems to get involved with crime, it won the World Cinema Dramatic Grand Jury Prize a co-production between Mexico, the United States and France.



Sundance Film Festival winner Sujo to represent the country Mexico at the 2025 Oscars

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Saturday, November 16, 2024 2:00 PM (P)

I mentioned this one before

and this one doesn't really qualify, it breaks the rule of $15 Million-20 Million

also its probably not a good movie based on a Woman's Drama Novel a Chick Flick but on profit I think its still worth mentioning

It Ends with Us 2024 - Sony Pictures, Columbia / Wayfarer

Budget $25 million
Box office $349.5 million

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Monday, November 18, 2024 11:27 PM (P)

Study: 77 million highly original thinkers would pay for an indie movie streaming network
https://www.avclub.com/study-40-million-indie-movie-streaming-network



and scifi, Low-ish budget and rated very good by a number of critics

Arrival is a 2016, Budget 35+ $40+ million, based on "Story of Your Life" by Ted Chiang

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Wednesday, November 20, 2024 3:31 PM (P)

Inside the terrifying, risky world of making indie horror movies

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/horror-films-halloween-1.7365668

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Saturday, November 23, 2024 1:05 AM (P)

Hundreds of Beavers

https://apnews.com/article/hundreds-of-beavers-how-it-was-made-75aee91
5608377c306f811595d4cb946

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Monday, December 2, 2024 8:08 PM (P)

HongKong is still making film

seems like a plot from Daredevil prosecutor by day KungFu Punisher by Night?

its HongKong Dollars so maybe 30 Million USD

THE PROSECUTOR (2025) Donnie Yen

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Monday, December 16, 2024 7:10 PM (P)

Shorts

Line Animation




films, flicks
it could be low but maybe not

Garland is known to go higher budget these days with a budget of around $50 million.

seems like American Sniper, Black Hawk Down, The Hurt Locker, Jarhead, Vietnam era film, Civil War vibes




Asian movies typically have low budgets, this period drama South Korea about shooting Ito Hirobumi, Assassination plot to kill the first Prime Minister of Japan.


they could have made it into a mini-series, the movie has already been show at a Canadian film fest

'Harbin'

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Tuesday, December 24, 2024 11:29 PM (P)

died in 2024 Roger Corman, chessy drive in movie and The Little Shop of Horror, House of Usher and the failure The Fantastic Four unreleased film with unknown actors George Gaynes born George Jongejans a Dutch-American singer, actor, Born to Dutch and Russian-Finnish parents in the Grand Duchy of Finland known for Police Academy and the soap opera General Hospital.

The movies that made Roger Corman feel irrelevant: “They’re doing it bigger and better”

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/movies-made-roger-corman-feel-irrelevant/



Kung Fury





Everything That Will Happen Has Already Happened (Or Why I Still Make Independent Ultra-Low-Budget Films in a Time of Media Oversaturation)

https://filmmakermagazine.com/128008-everything-that-will-happen-has-a
lready-happened-or-why-i-still-make-independent-ultra-low-budget-films-in-a-time-of-media-oversaturation
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Review of Milk & Serial

https://www.imdb.com/review/rw10133714/

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Tuesday, December 31, 2024 6:50 AM (P)

NZ Alien Weekend



Ashlynn Celia | Taylor King | Aaron Mark McMorris




Homestead is strange it seems they were launching a movie but also a tv show at the same time? a pilot but in the cinema, released simultaneously with two streaming television episodes of the same name which continue the storyline within the film, eight episodes and streams on the Angel Studios website


So it is planned as a tv series


Budget?

Neal McDonough’s ‘Homestead’ Beats ‘Gladiator II’ in Its Domestic Debut
https://collider.com/homestead-domestic-box-office-6-million/

Bailey Chase talks about starring in the Angel Studios film ‘Homestead’
https://www.digitaljournal.com/entertainment/bailey-chase-talks-about-
starring-in-the-angel-studios-film-homestead/article


Regarding his favorite part of the filming experience, he stated, “I really enjoyed the camaraderie of it all. Everyone in the cast, crew, and investors were all believers.”
“While we didn’t have the biggest budget, and it was a challenging location in the Rockys, everyone was there for the right reason.”

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Wednesday, January 8, 2025 5:27 AM (P)

horror not sure if good... Popeye is public domain now
“Popeye’s Revenge”

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Monday, January 13, 2025 9:49 PM (P)

'Homestead' if it was released in a different year it would have been ok

but looks kinda dumb and shit compared to the real life stuff happening to Hollyweird and Commiefornia


its a tv show or a movie or locked away behind a website with other content, good on Angel studios for at least trying



UHF (released internationally as The Vidiot from UHF) is a 1989 American comedy film starring "Weird Al" Yankovic




F/X2 The Deadly Art of Illusion

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Monday, January 20, 2025 5:05 PM (P)

Steven Soderbergh names his most frustrating movie: “I didn’t have the skills to do it”

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/steven-soderbergh-names-his-most-frustrat
ing-movie
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you can always try film shorts?
vimeo.com/
918070668

Movement, Light, and Life

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Thursday, February 20, 2025 3:42 AM (P)

Penguin Lessons

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Monday, February 24, 2025 6:10 PM (P)

Though his movie tops Spirit Awards, 'Anora' director says indie industry still struggles
https://www.voanews.com/a/though-his-movie-tops-spirit-awards-anora-di
rector-says-indie-industry-still-struggles-/7984910.html

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Monday, February 24, 2025 10:52 PM (P)

I imagine the indie industry is really going to struggle now, with all the USAID funding being cut.

I'm wondering when we're going to get the list of "indie" flicks with the "proper messaging" and "diverse quotas" that were filmed on taxpayer dollars.

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Wednesday, February 26, 2025 9:51 PM (P)

directed by filmmaker Jeremy Workman that recounts the story of a group of young Rhode Islanders



Secret Mall Apartment -

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Monday, March 3, 2025 4:03 PM (P)

Sisu (2022) Carnage Count

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Thursday, March 6, 2025 5:38 PM (P)

Homestead was ok or not?
so I think the multi-citizen Canadian Citizen? US Citizen? Jew Israeli? Christian Zionist or whatever he calls himself these days was ranting and cheering 'Homestead'

I applaud its Low-Budget however the box office taking is very low

the real-life LA Fires were far more scary than some Nuke Apocalypse Hollywood Commiefornia Fantasy


...or before the California Fires I guess you could look at the Dindoo Nuffins George Floyd BLM Antifa riots or the 1992 Los Angeles riots
the USA is often ready to destroy itself, you don't need some fantasy story about alien 'Nukes'

Homestead
they were not sure to release it as a Direct Download, a DVD a box office movie or a tv show, in any other time period perhaps 'Homestead' would have done better

However the market is crashing now


Metascore Mixed or Average Based on 5 Critic Reviews
44
https://www.metacritic.com/movie/homestead/
User Score Generally Favorable Based on 9 User Ratings
6.3



the biggest hit for Angel Studios was 'Sound of Freedom' classed as a 2023 sleeper hit, grossing $251 million against a $14.5 million budget

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Friday, March 14, 2025 4:54 PM (P)

Hollyweird is getting trashed at the international box office, it cant even do a cheap horror anymore and needs to wake up....and btw why the fuck did Cuckservatives Republicans use that shit term 'woke' with it was perfectly fine to call them Queer Maxrist Gay Lesbo Radical Leftwing Loons and Pedophiles

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Saturday, March 15, 2025 1:27 AM (P)

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Hollyweird is getting trashed at the international box office, it cant even do a cheap horror anymore and needs to wake up....and btw why the fuck did Cuckservatives Republicans use that shit term 'woke' with it was perfectly fine to call them Queer Maxrist Gay Lesbo Radical Leftwing Loons and Pedophiles



It all started in 2016...



They made up the word nobody had ever used before and presented it as if it were a word that everyone used all of the time.

They told us not to use it.

We used it.



And the funniest thing is, if you look at 0:30 of the video, we used their made up word to define what they are, when the intention was obviously for us to be calling ourselves woke.

They told us "Stop bragging about being woke.", "Stop saying woke".

Not one white man in the country before this video went around bragging they were woke. I have my doubts that any had even heard the term before then.

But fast forward a few years and there were plenty of college "educated" liberal "men" who started using woke to define themselves. ... Even bragging about it.



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Tuesday, March 18, 2025 4:46 PM (P)

not sure if good but the indie horror brand still moves


Hulu Just Quietly Released Its Most Underbaked Indie Horror Movie
https://www.inverse.com/entertainment/control-freak-review-hulu-horror
-kelly-marie-tran


A mutated Bambi is out for blood in the first official trailer for ‘Bambi: The Reckoning’
https://www.nme.com/news/film/a-mutated-bambi-is-out-for-blood-in-the-
first-official-trailer-for-bambi-the-reckoning-3843920




while new Captain America limping its way to $400 million worldwide.


the video games to movies and tv

or indie horror continues to be a thing




Unfortunately for video games they are becoming less and less independent, you no longer see small games with good game play but 'Huge Studios' and huge production teams pushing a brand

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Wednesday, March 19, 2025 2:02 AM (P)

There are plenty of indie games out there if you look. The kids can find them easy because they're all on Steam. The problem is there's a billion projects on Steam that are crap, and the way they run their toplists to advertise games to people leaves a lot to be desired. So if you're new to all of that and don't know how to see reviews of games by people who aren't bots, you're probably not going to want to put too much stock in their own review system.

As for Triple-A companies? I think they're about to finally splinter. They can't afford to take a single risk anymore because if they release one title that flops that can ruin them. Then they've got to rush the next one out, unfinished with all of its bugs, and hope it doesn't flop too or else they've just dug themselves an even deeper hole. They've also recently raised the price of new games to over $100 each, which is quickly making piracy a problem for them.

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Thursday, March 20, 2025 5:41 AM (P)

not sure if good or not sure of budget but the original Lloyd Kaufman Troma Entertainment movies were dirt cheap compared to todays films, something like 200 thousand and they could be cult hits


they started doing trashy funny horror film again with Shakespeare's Sh*tstorm
and A Game in the Woods
Michael Herz , Lloyd aKaufman movie Sgt. Kabukiman N.Y.P.D. was trashed for being more stupid than funny

they also did a documentary of film makers dealing with French Police called 'Festival to Fascism Cannes 2017'
an inside look at their disastrous promotional tour

Toxic Avenger a kind of horror parody

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Monday, March 24, 2025 9:03 PM (P)

The Magic of Korean Cinema




The Human Condition Japan film series



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Friday, March 28, 2025 5:05 AM (P)

this is an old but new-ish one...not too old


Budget $18 million...maybe too high for this thread...but its worth note how a period epic was done for a low price
a weird mix of Europe and East production companies, Kazakhstan, Russia, Mongolia, Germany and a well know Japan actor, his maternal grandfather was Willard Overing, a U.S. citizen of Norwegian descent, whom Asano never met.

he was recently Nominated for Shogun and won Outstanding Performance by an Ensemble in a Drama Series

Mongol: The Rise of Genghis Khan



year - 2007

Sergei Bodrov a Russian film director moved to the USA, a screenwriter, and producer..a strange or freak event happened when his son was recently killed in an Avalanche in Russia while trying to make a movie

Chuluuny Khulan a Mongolian actress stars

and Sun Honglei a well known Chinese tv actor

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Saturday, May 10, 2025 5:32 PM (P)

maybe the nutjob broken clocks can be correct one in a while, Whoopi Goldberg and Joy Behar React to Trump's 100% Tariff and the new Tax Trump's 100% Tariff Threat it will be a disaster for Independent Cinema?

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Saturday, May 10, 2025 6:42 PM (P)

Myth of Man (2025)

https://yts.mx/movies/myth-of-man-2025

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt31272547/

https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Myth-of-Man-(2025)#tab=summary




The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, May 11, 2025 12:30 AM (P)

chronicles the Munich massacre of 1972 from the perspective of the ABC Sports crew and their coverage of the events

‘September 5’ Sweeps German Film Awards
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/september-5-wins-g
erman-film-awards-1236208545
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Monday, May 12, 2025 5:21 PM (P)


We Are Guardians - Documentary Trailer - Portuguese w subtitles
the Brazilian Amazon.

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Monday, May 19, 2025 5:01 PM (P)

Final Destination, maybe 16 million or maybe 20 million or more?...Low-ish budget certainly low today compared to the 250 Million + budgets of today

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Thursday, June 26, 2025 3:49 PM (P)

Vimeo, Dailymotion, Veoh were good art places not sure anymore,
not movies but a lot of artistic social media channels out there

Newgrounds for quirky funny animation

Film Theory: This Is The Scariest YouTube Channel (Boisvert)

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Thursday, June 26, 2025 3:49 PM (P)

WatchMojo

10 Low Budget Movies That OWNED the Box Office This Decade

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Thursday, June 26, 2025 3:53 PM (P)

The Best Cinematography I've Ever Seen

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Thursday, June 26, 2025 4:04 PM (P)

The Day After ’s production values and budget reported at $7 million




Top 10 Brilliant Movies Made With Almost No Money

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Thursday, June 26, 2025 7:39 PM (P)

List is not legitimate. Neither Ink nor Six String Samurai are on there.

They've got some good picks though.

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Sunday, July 6, 2025 5:27 PM (P)

this could go in the animated toon threads

Heavy Metal Thunder - I Roll It I Review It



there is Heavy Metal 1981 Budget $9.3 million and Heavy Metal 2000 Budget $15 million

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Sunday, July 6, 2025 5:28 PM (P)

Big Lebowski Budget $15 million

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Monday, July 7, 2025 5:34 PM (P)

not sure if these movies are good


Dances With Films: ‘No Choice,’ ‘Never Get Busted’ & More Dance Away With Awards At Indie Cinema Festival
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/dances-films-no-choice-never-220603641.html

Sydney World Film Festival
https://www.screenhub.com.au/opportunity/sydney-world-film-festival-26
72076
/

Local indie film We Can Save The World!!! starring Noah Yap to premiere at New York Asian Film Festival in July
https://www.asiaone.com/entertainment/local-indie-film-we-can-save-wor
ld-starring-noah-yap-premiere-new-york-asian-film-festival


Bedford filmmaker’s ‘Skeleton Girls’ to feature at Revelation Perth International film festival
https://www.perthnow.com.au/local-news/perthnow-central/bedford-filmma
kers-skeleton-girls-to-feature-at-perth-international-film-festival--c-19074776


‘Rosemead,’ starring Lucy Liu, takes top prize at Bentonville Film Festival
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/articles/rosemead-starring-lucy-li
u-takes-013016381.html


London festival makes rallying cry for cinema: 'Indie film isn't dead!'
https://www.standard.co.uk/culture/film/ciff-tamer-hassan-sadie-frost-
film-festival-b1227762.html


Ten Ways to Navigate Raindance Film Festival
https://raindance.org/ten-ways-to-navigate-raindance-film-festival/

BFC head Adrian Wootton on UK indie tax credit impact, improving ties with Europe
https://www.screendaily.com/news/bfc-head-adrian-wootton-on-uk-indie-t
ax-credit-impact-improving-ties-with-europe/5206580.article

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Thursday, July 17, 2025 10:01 PM (P)

Alien the original Budget $8.4–14 million, Ridley Scott, Dan O'Bannon, later it becomes a 'franchise'
James Cameron made it bigger more action packed but would keep a lot of the scifi horror, inspiration for the dark monster bio mech shapes of alien creatures and environments were designed by the Swiss artist H. R. Giger,.

I think the movie was doomed on day one, Sigourney Weaver I didnt get it...

Joss, a lot of people complain how he screwed up Alien 'Resurrection' and maybe the critics are legit

to make the franchise work it might require a lot of retcons or just ignoring the bad movies or do more reboots

the prison planet film seems to be where a lot of Alien failed

'Aliens: Bishop' – a Novel from Titan Books and a Direct Sequel to 'Aliens'
https://bloody-disgusting.com/books/3779902/aliens-bishop-new-novel-fr
om-titan-books-is-a-direct-sequel-to-aliens-and-alien-3
/

I think 'Alan Tudyk' would have made a great quirky Robot Alien Cyborg person, Alan Tudyk has these great skills as an actor but I think he's also got that strange weird funny odd thoughtful goofy outsider stage presence, maybe its something he got from all those strange roles over the years

Alan without doubt adds something unique but maybe he's tired of being a CGI robot, Lance Henriksen, Rutger Hauer, Amy Adams, Doug Jones, Jeff Goldblum, Carrie-Anne Moss, David Bowie, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Sharlto Copley, Laurence Fishburne, Anne Hathaway, Donald Sutherland, Dennis Quaid like their unique contributions to movies I think Alan also adds something special to those strange roles.

tv show upcoming



Alien: Earth

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Tuesday, July 29, 2025 2:31 AM (P)

Bacurau Brazilian Portuguese for 'nightjar'

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Monday, August 4, 2025 6:09 AM (P)

title 'Boy from Mercury' is a 1996 Irish-French-British film, a flop or not? where can you get it for rent? first time actors Rita Tushingham and Tom Courtenay had appeared on screen together since Doctor Zhivago

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Monday, August 4, 2025 6:13 AM (P)

not sure if 'good' but Low Budget



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Monday, August 4, 2025 6:26 AM (P)

You ever get around to watching Ink, Jaynez?

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Monday, August 4, 2025 6:39 AM (P)

The Monkees - 'Head' - Theatrical Trailer

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Monday, August 4, 2025 2:33 PM (P)

Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
You ever get around to watching Ink, Jaynez?



First time I heard of it was this thread, Jamin Winans?



should give it a watch soon

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Sunday, August 10, 2025 5:28 AM (P)

If you didn't know or had totally forgotten that Nicolas Cage put out a movie called The Surfer earlier this year, then I apologize to you for reminding you of it now.

I think I'm quickly falling out of love with the idea of Cage. That's something like three bad Cage flicks in a row now that I've watched, and I'd put this one up there somewhere VERY high on the list of worst movies I've ever seen in my life. Quite possibly, even giving it the crown.

It's nothing at all like Nobody, which is what I thought I'd be getting into with this one based on the blurb and Nic Cage.

MINOR SPOILERS: (Although, seriously, do not watch this crap)...

If you're predisposed to depression, or currently in the middle of a bout with it, everything I said goes double. You will not walk away from this movie feeling good about what you just watched no matter what mood you went into when you started it up. No light at the end of the tunnel, no matter how much you're hoping for one, and no real kick ass action that turns any of this around by the end either.

All you're getting here is a half-assed, totally-ambiguous redemption(?) arc in the 11th hour and 59th minute that leaves you not giving a single shit about what happens after they say "Fuck You" with that end title screen card when they did, and depending on how big your cynical side is, a good idea that there was ZERO redemption arc that ever took place.

Fuck all the bad guys. Fuck Cage's character along with his 4-line son's non-personality robot of a character and his exe's character who we never see on screen either, and are given no reason at all to cheer for. Outside of the very small chance that his whiny rich son who doesn't get anywhere near enough screen time to make you care enough to know more about him or to even bother remembering his name by the time it pops up in the end credits, the only (presumably) decent people in this movie come out of it worse than they went into it.

Not only that, but I called how the ending of this flick was going to play out only halfway in because the several instances of foreshadowing they put out there are so on the fucking nose that only the dumbest of people will have not figured it out at least by the end of the 2nd act. And at least no less than 6 major plot points were easy to predict long before they manifested themselves. By 1 hour in, I was laughing at every single thing that happened the rest of the movie because treating it like a comedy was the only way to make it to the end.

I think that the 80+ Critic score this one has is upper-middle class white college "educated" folk celebrating the downfall of an actual rich dude, while completely ignoring the fact that he still kind of wins in the end, even if he left part of his soul behind to do it, and that he most likely sold his own son's soul down the road long after the credits roll. Not only don't we care, but we are given absolutely no reason at all to believe that won't be exactly how this story would play out in a theoretical sequel.

Not to mention the entire waste of a life he's had to get to this terrible, terrible point, including a failed marriage which he may or may not get back now depending on how materialistic his soon-to-be Ex Wife is, and just generally regretting everything he's done and the choices he's made to get something that by the end of the movie he should have, but didn't, learn that he wants no real part of.

If you want to see what Sandra Bullock's "The Net", Kevin Kostner's "Tin Cup" and The Karate Kid would look like all mashed up in a blender, every ounce of comedy, levity and hope were completely stripped away, to be replaced with a relentless sense of somebody else being peer pressured while voluntarily burdening yourself with the terrible weight of somebody else's guilt and regrets of how they lived their own lives by sitting 5 minutes through this shit, and every character in t

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Monday, August 11, 2025 12:08 PM (P)

Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
You ever get around to watching Ink, Jaynez?



First time I heard of it was this thread, Jamin Winans?


should give it a watch soon



Oh crap. Somehow I missed your reply here, Jaynez. Sorry about that.

Yeah. Jamin Winans.

Odd though... I was always under the impression it was a Joint venture between him and his wife. I thought they at least co-directed it if they didn't also co-write it. I don't see her credited on IMDB right now. Going to look into that a little deeper since I'm interested. I see he's had quite a few other movies that could be interesting given that Ink is probably my favorite flick.

Now don't go expecting perfection. I hate it when I over-hype something and other people are underwhelmed. It may or may not be my favorite movie now, that's such a hard thing to really say. But I will say that for at least 6 months after I first saw it I knew that it was.

Just go into it with an open mind when you see it, and be impressed by what an extremely small budget can accomplish if talented and disciplined people are in charge of the money.



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Monday, August 11, 2025 12:16 PM (P)

Oh... Cool.

From 16 years ago on Reddit. I didn't even know Reddit was around that long.


I am Kiowa Winans, Executive Producer of the movie, "Ink," which was bit torrented by pirates and consequently became one of the top 20 most popular movies online. AMA.

https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/a2zyy/i_am_kiowa_winans_executi
ve_producer_of_the_movie
/


Making ‘Ink’ with Jamin and Kiowa Winans

https://chrisjonesblog.com/2013/04/making-ink-with-jamin-and-kiowa-win
ans.html



So she produced it, and he wrote and directed it.

Those two links are hella-interesting.

But now that you're interested in watching the movie, I'd go into it as blind as you can and come back to the links later if you want to know more.

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Saturday, August 16, 2025 2:22 PM (P)

There is a lot of good stuff with Nick Cage his brief appearance in Fast Times at Ridgemont High, Raising Arizona he's the star, Leaving Las Vegas dark bleak, Con Air strange wild its action and funny, Face Off is very good but it also starts to go to crap...Gone in 60 Seconds, The Wicker Man remake is dumb...its quantity not quality

Nicolas Cage is gone that whole hollyweird odd, weird, nutty route and I think he went on that journey long ago, I respect his early stuff but then I started getting put off by his films. Performances that burn or just rub you the wrong way, some performances were 'Just Wingin' It' to pay bills, divorce expenses, Bizarre Facts, not inept or incompetent but all his expenses, he bought a masonic Pyramid Tomb, naming kids after comicbooks, after taking mushrooms his cat was his brother, A Haunted Death Mansion...that was supposed to help him wrote books but this never happened...he just ran out of the Mansion screaming one night, expensive wine collections and crazy quirks and antics were costing 'The Art'. He seems to be paying off all these new young Korean or Japanese wives with costly divorces, even during his normal days I think he was 'out there' Brooke Shields seemed less than normal and he was known for an excessive party guy with booze and substance abuse.

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Sunday, August 17, 2025 3:14 PM (P)

Sho Miyake’s ‘Two Seasons, Two Strangers’ Wins at Locarno

https://www.screendaily.com/news/sho-miyakes-two-seasons-two-strangers
-wins-golden-leopard-at-locarno-2025/5207890.article

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Monday, August 18, 2025 11:20 PM (P)

Good Boy Trailer

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Tuesday, August 26, 2025 4:34 PM (P)

that thing called Film Shorts again

'Dust'



you also get some on Vimeo, Odysee, Bitchute,k Dailymotion

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Tuesday, August 26, 2025 11:32 PM (P)

Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
There is a lot of good stuff with Nick Cage his brief appearance in Fast Times at Ridgemont High, Raising Arizona he's the star, Leaving Las Vegas dark bleak, Con Air strange wild its action and funny, Face Off is very good but it also starts to go to crap...Gone in 60 Seconds, The Wicker Man remake is dumb...its quantity not quality

Nicolas Cage is gone that whole hollyweird odd, weird, nutty route and I think he went on that journey long ago, I respect his early stuff but then I started getting put off by his films. Performances that burn or just rub you the wrong way, some performances were 'Just Wingin' It' to pay bills, divorce expenses, Bizarre Facts, not inept or incompetent but all his expenses, he bought a masonic Pyramid Tomb, naming kids after comicbooks, after taking mushrooms his cat was his brother, A Haunted Death Mansion...that was supposed to help him wrote books but this never happened...he just ran out of the Mansion screaming one night, expensive wine collections and crazy quirks and antics were costing 'The Art'. He seems to be paying off all these new young Korean or Japanese wives with costly divorces, even during his normal days I think he was 'out there' Brooke Shields seemed less than normal and he was known for an excessive party guy with booze and substance abuse.



He's made a lot of poor decisions, sure, but he owns up to them. He had every right at one point to file for Bankruptcy, but he never did that. He just went back to work and took literally any role he was offered to dig himself out of all that debt.

Gotta give him respect for that.

I liked Willy's Wonderland. It wouldn't even be watchable without him in it, and the fact that he doesn't say a single word in the whole movie is a good gimmick for him.

The Color Purple was Okay. I didn't realize it was an H.P. Lovecraft movie until after my dad and I started watching it and when his name popped up I had to pause the movie and apologize ahead of time that it probably wasn't going to be very good. I'd say it's better than your average Lovecraft movie, but still not very good. Another movie that would have been terrible had Cage not been in it, but the movie itself was so crazy that it overshadowed Nic's crazy acting.

I can't even remember the name of the one where he was showing up in people's dreams now. That one had so much potential, but the last 15 minutes were terrible and the ending sucked hard.

And then there's The Surfer. God awful movie that nobody should ever watch.

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