General Discussions

BRACE YOURSELVES. . .THIS ROCKS!!!!!

POSTED BY: Static
UPDATED: Friday, June 24, 2005 20:46
VIEWED: 50306
PAGE 1 of 2

Tuesday, June 14, 2005 8:00 PM

Okay. . .so I called the Universal rep this afternoon, just sort of a "Hi. . .just wanted to see if you guys were in a position to give me hard confirmation on Serenity showing at Mission Valley."

This is cool #1. . .he said, "I think we can do that. . .I'm just not sure when. They're being a little weird..." and I realize he thinks I'm talking about an ADVANCE screening. This is cool b/c he was actually in the 'advance screening' state of mind.

So. . .I reassure him that the only date I'm working on with him is September 30th. . .that I realize he's got tons on his plate and I don't want to ask for anything uber-special. . .just want to make the nationwide release something of memory.

THEN he tells me. . ."Oh. . .you guys probably won't even have to wait until September 30th anymore. Our test markets and advance screenings are off the charts. . .we had no idea. . .when you said, 'Big following', I didn't realize how big. . ."

And THEN he said,

Quote:

"All of us (Meaning the Distribution folk at 'Versal) really wish we'd just gone ahead and premiered it in May. It's working out as well as "Star Wars" and if we'd started in May, it would have run all summer."



Now. . .

See. . .

For a Firefly fan to say, "It'll be as big as Episode 3!!!" is delerium and delusion.

For a MOVIE CRITIC to say, "It'll be as big as Episode 3!!!" is optimistic if not slightly unrealistic.

For a DISTRIBUTOR. . .who's JOB involves looking at numbers and analyzing statistics, etc. etc. etc. . . to say something along those lines, however. . .and to have the OBVIOUS frustration in his voice of "Dammit, I wish we'd thought of that". . .

I mean. . .

WOW.



So. . .yeah. As the conversation ended, his words were, "I'd go ahead and look for a nationwide release to be earlier than September 30th."

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Tuesday, June 14, 2005 8:07 PM

EEEK!

That does rock, Static!

Giddy I feel.

But...if they move the opening date up, that will cause kinks in our plans, our t-shirt designs, our banners....

Though, not having to wait until the end of September....EEEK!



"What's the use of a house if you haven't got a tolerable planet to put it on?"-H.D. Thoreau

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Tuesday, June 14, 2005 8:09 PM

I know. . .

Full-blown GONZO of the whole "Mixed Feelings" thing going on here, huh?

YAY!!!! Early nationwide release!!!!


DAMMIT!!!! I gotta scramble to change my hotel reservations and change my work vacation and swap shifts again and shit!!!!

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Tuesday, June 14, 2005 8:18 PM

Now that is ruttin' AWESOME!!!

WOOHOO!!!!!

Great news there, Static!!!!!

______________________

Soul, Security Chief of the Sereni-Tree

Mantichorus: "So is there a reason they call you 'Soul'?"
Soul (after a long pause): "Yeah. Because I have one."

http://havenofsouls.blogspot.com/

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Tuesday, June 14, 2005 8:23 PM

Am just .... I just ... I mean I .... Its really ....

*falls over*

(enthusiasm makes me kinda monosyllabic)

***************************************

Okay, I'm lost, I'm angry, and I'm
armed.

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Tuesday, June 14, 2005 8:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Static:
I know. . .

Full-blown GONZO of the whole "Mixed Feelings" thing going on here, huh?

YAY!!!! Early nationwide release!!!!


DAMMIT!!!! I gotta scramble to change my hotel reservations and change my work vacation and swap shifts again and shit!!!!



But we don't know when it'll be yet, so we can't change plans. Oh ugh. PLEASE don't be the weekend of my friend's wedding!!! Also, the 30th was the PERFECT weekend for me. It's my HS 10 yr reunion and it was the perfect excuse for me not to go.

I wonder how soon we'll find out. Can't..take..stress..

*joins zoot on floor.*

"What's the use of a house if you haven't got a tolerable planet to put it on?"-H.D. Thoreau

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Tuesday, June 14, 2005 8:34 PM

*Squeaks* <-The only immediate reaction I could manage.

That is...beyond awesome. Just...ah! AWESOME. I hope Universal knows that if they did indeed put their faith in the fandom and release earlier, we would be right there. AND we would adore them. Yes.

*Squeaks again*

"Bwaa...it's kind of a warrior...strikes fear into the hearts of..."

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Tuesday, June 14, 2005 8:49 PM

WOW! AWESOME!

Oh and the new issue of WIZARD the comic magazine,in the summer preview issue they had a"look ahead to the fall" section and they listed serenity due sept 23rd,but i have a feeling it will be sept 9th or 16th---SO RUTTIN SHINY!

"Hamsters is nice."

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Tuesday, June 14, 2005 8:50 PM

So this will make my summer a big question mark. This means I can’t make any plans, doesn’t it?


A happy question mark, but still a question mark.




www.thatweirdgirl.com
---
Can we not revel in our cyber-love?

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Tuesday, June 14, 2005 9:19 PM

WooHoo, very shiny :-).

Now here's hoping if they bring forward the US date, they'll bring forward the UK and other international dates as well. Else we on the other side of the pond will have to spend even longer dodging around spoilers like a giant spider in a minefield.

---------------------------------------------
Kaylee: "No call to be snappy, Jayne."
Jayne: "Are *you* about to jump onto a moving train?!"

NOTIFY: N  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Tuesday, June 14, 2005 10:03 PM

This is so shiny!!!! The closer it gets to September the harder it is to avoid spoilers!

Quote:

Our test markets and advance screenings are off the charts


test markets and advance screenings? Hmmm... makes sense they would want to test it with non fans, but how'd they keep that under wraps? We Browncoats are an inquisitive bunch .

Shiny, shiny news!

If nothing we do matters, then all that matters is what we do. -"Angel"

Browncoat? Canadian? Join us:
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/canadianbrowncoats/

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Tuesday, June 14, 2005 10:14 PM

Wow that is by far the best news I've heard all week. It would be great if we could get some summer movie exposure.

Though this does put a kink in my plan of converting people in a chain reaction sorta way. Some of my friends just aren't the mass viewing kind of group. So I was going to lend dvds to one. Use them as a testimonial to others and have them pass the dvds along to the next convert. Might have to think of a plan to pick up the pace now.

Very shiny news though. Thanks Static!

NOTIFY: N  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Tuesday, June 14, 2005 10:32 PM



hate to say it but my first thought was---


DON'T Screw UP DragonCon!


other than that really Shiny news

tho from August 15 - Sept 23 every weekend is booked for me personally so I don't know I could make any premiere parties....

But we'd have our serenity !

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Tuesday, June 14, 2005 10:38 PM

Whoa, thats amazing!! Thanks for letting us know Static!

PsychicRiver

"Two by two, hands of blue."
"We'll take care of each other. I'll knit!"

Summer Glau to me - "You are so photogenic."

Me -

NOTIFY: N  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 12:03 AM

This is amazing Static! What level is your contact? Mid-management, upper management? How reliable do you feel your source is?

I just want to jump up and down, but I want to make sure this is really what it sounds like!

Shiney, Static. Thanks for keeping us in the loop!

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zoot:
*falls over*


I couldn't have said it any better. That's definitely best-taken-sitting-down kind of news! I can't wait for something concrete to come out of this, because I sure as heck can't seem to get tickets to a screening.

Static, do you have any contacts to get information on premiere night events? I'm talking to the theatre people, but if this whole thing is going to be accelerated, I'd better put it into hard burn!

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 12:24 AM

For those of you who asked...

My 'contact', a (guy named Vinnie), works in the Division of Universal Films that is responsible for the distribution of films.

These are the guys that spend their days looking at numbers and determining that THIS movie should go to THIS theatre, while THIS movie should go to THIS theatre. . .and THIS theatre should get 8 prints, while THIS theatre probably only needs 3.

(Da Vin Man) and I have been talking since the movie finished filming, so I could try to LOCK Serenity into one of the theatres owned by an acquaintance of mine. Fortunately for me, Bill, the owner of several theatres, has a very good rep with Universal and a very good business relationship with (The Vinmeister), so I didn't have to 'introduce' these guys.

(Vincenzo) has been pretty confident the entire time that Mission Valley would be a good venue for Serenity and the current numbers are proving that to be true.

Face it, folks...Serenity is kicking ass and taking names and it hasn't even truly 'left the gate' yet. 'Versal suits are kicking themselves right now for pushing it back now that they've discovered they could have run our beautiful boat all over the big screens ALL SUMMER when folks have nothing to do but go to the movies.

For those of you who want to try to arrange for a specific Venue in YOUR area. . .the number to call is THIS:

[MOD EDIT: It goes without saying, but I'm going to say it anyway -- if/when you call this number remember that you are representing browncoats everywhere, so please be polite and friendly and enthusiastic, not 'lunatic fringe', dong ma?]

214-360-0022

Speak to an operator and tell them you want to talk to the distribution rep for your city.

Keep flyin!

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 12:32 AM

Wow, Static, this is just great! I'm going to follow up on that number and make sure we get Serenity in one of the best theaters in the state of NJ.

Thanks for this info. I had been calling the theater trying to get manager and have had no luck.

This is what I needed. Thanks!

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 12:45 AM

That is incredible, wonderful news, Static. Made my day - thank you!

"Done the impossible," indeed - they haven't seen anything yet!

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 12:49 AM

Amen.. a lot of the cast is supposed to go to DragonCon! I will not miss DragonCon.

Ash

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:10 AM

Wow. I know I've been saying this all along, but to hear it actually come back from the suits ... Wow.

Thanks for sharing, Static.

Arizona Browncoats - http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/AZ_Browncoats/

NOTIFY: N  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:26 AM

Yay!!! Damnitall! grr...my friend and I were planning to meet up in Raleigh for the premiere on Sept 30th. Now I don't know if she'll be able to make it if the date changes. :( And I don't know if I'll be able to make the new date either. :(

Oh, well. Yay!!!! *happy dance* Studio execs who have brains....and know how to use them.

Go Serenity!!!

Well, I'm seeing it openning weekend even if it means I don't get to go have fun down in NC with everyone.

NOTIFY: N  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:35 AM

Oh! Great! Gods! Below!!

This is absolutely...positively....(adjectives ...failing....)...Doubleplus good!!!

All the moreso, since the birth of my son (!!!!!) is slated for 10/4 (a very cool birthday, so I hope he's more punctual than his d-d-d-dad {that will take some getting used to!} ). Dangerously close to the 9/30 release date. Given Finagle's Law ("the perversity of the universe tends toward a maximum"), I fully anticipated a go for launch as soon as the 'Versal logo appeared.

This could very possibly put my butt in the seat after all!!!

Thanks for the leg-work, STATIC!!

Department of Redundancy Department

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:35 AM

You're not goofing with us, right??

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:36 AM

Not to be a glass-is half-empty type of person, but do you suppose if Serenity is released much earlier than Dragoncon Joss and the cast will pull out because of lack of the need to build up anticipation for the movie? I'd hate to book what will be a very expensive weekend on the condition of seeing my beloved Serenity people and then be disappointed. No refunds, ya know!
On the upside, of course, Serenity Now!

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:47 AM

I'd be thrilled if Serenity came out earlier because I'm incredibly impatient and want to see it. However, it would upset my plan of seeing Alan Tudyk in Spamalot the 28th and then seeing him in Serenity the 30th. Unless Serenity's still in the theaters at that time even if the release is moved up, in which case I go see it again and my plans are saved. Okay, I've convinced myself. They should release the movie right now. In my apartment. And everyone involved should be here to see it. The world's more fun in my head than in the real world.

Now we have to be married. I'm in the family way.

NOTIFY: N  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 2:02 AM

Sees all this as a lesson in how rumours are born.

Still, a summerish release would be kinda nice.

http://www3.sympatico.ca/ldnemeth/images/blackjacksilver.GIF

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 2:23 AM

WOW!

Thanks, Static, for posting the phone number.

As for T-shirts, etc, with the date... Sure, it will be tacky, but a Sharpie works wonders.

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 2:34 AM

That is fucking awesome. I've been telling people that this was going to be as big if not bigger than episode III.

Oh, and play Cantr II at www.cantr.net.

NOTIFY: N  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 5:32 AM

Quote:

Not to be a glass-is half-empty type of person, but do you suppose if Serenity is released much earlier than Dragoncon Joss and the cast will pull out because of lack of the need to build up anticipation for the movie?


Would they really do that? After all, how would that look for a sequel, if everybody knew they are just nice and friendly to their fans when they need some support? Besides, even if it is somehow organized/paid through Universal, half these people might be the kind that would just pay for it themselves to be there. Of course, I might just be a naive dreamer falling for their elobarate act ,-)

http://festini.device-zero.de

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 6:06 AM

While I certainly warmly embrace this news, I do have a question, and maybe other Browncoats can help answer.

Are the Versal folks tracking in any way the number of repeat viewers to the screenings?

Seems to me, that a lot of people will be on their 2nd and 3rd time seeing the BDM. While repeat viewings are a necessity for a highly successful run, does this make the numbers seem rosier than they are? I know that they added cities everytime, and they all sold out, but I'd just be interested to know how many "unique" viewers there were for the run of the screenings.

Don't get me wrong, Serenity by the end of summer/early fall would be a dream come true. With SW:ROTS not sucking, and War Of The Worlds coming soon, it might make sense to bump it up before sci-fi starts to wane. Go Versal, Go!

Stay Shiny,
Wes



"I wanna cast...Magic Missile."
http://www.ifilm.com/filmdetail?ifilmid=220487

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 6:31 AM

*faints with smile on face and single tear trickling down left cheek*

extremely dimensionally transcendental

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 6:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by everyworldspinnin:


Are the Versal folks tracking in any way the number of repeat viewers to the screenings?

Seems to me, that a lot of people will be on their 2nd and 3rd time seeing the BDM. While repeat viewings are a necessity for a highly successful run, does this make the numbers seem rosier than they are? I know that they added cities everytime, and they all sold out, but I'd just be interested to know how many "unique" viewers there were for the run of the screenings.




I doubt they have any way of knowing how many 'repeat' viewers they have. . .but they're really looking at nothing more than numbers, which is fine.

On the one hand. . .maybe 100 million folks saw the movie on opening weekend. SCORE!!!!

On the other hand...maybe only 50 million saw it, but they loved it so much they saw it twice. SCORE!!!!

Either way, they win, and it opens doors for US as an audience.

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 8:20 AM

How fantastic!! I hope so I hope so I hope so I hope so . . .
.... because I can't get tickets to get into a screening no matter how hard I try. Next month, maybe?



"I can't keep track of her when she's not
incorporeally possessing a space ship.
Don't look at me."

http://www.cafepress.com/serenity05movie

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 8:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by aver:
Not to be a glass-is half-empty type of person, but do you suppose if Serenity is released much earlier than Dragoncon Joss and the cast will pull out because of lack of the need to build up anticipation for the movie? I'd hate to book what will be a very expensive weekend on the condition of seeing my beloved Serenity people and then be disappointed. No refunds, ya know!
On the upside, of course, Serenity Now!



No, they would never do that. They are BDH, remember? They do these things out of LOVE.


"I can't keep track of her when she's not
incorporeally possessing a space ship.
Don't look at me."

http://www.cafepress.com/serenity05movie

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 8:59 AM

I would LOVE to believe that the movie would do even HALF as good as star wars... but here's why i can't get excited by your news. All the advance screenings have to be populated with hard core fans. People who know the show and have been waiting for the film. If you really take that number and compare it to hard core star wars fans, we might equal like 1/50 of what star wars has if we were lucky. and that's not even counting the people who aren't hard core fans of star wars but are still willing to pay to see it. plus all the brand recognition star wars has which serenity sadly lacks. I have asked everyone I know if they plan to see Serenity, and unfortuatly, most of them simply say, "plan to see what?". But every one knows star wars.

I am all about the BDM making millions... believe me. But the idea people have that it is going to do jsut as well if not better than star wars just seems ludicris to me. and hey.. i didn't even like episode 3 all that much.

NOTIFY: N  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 10:08 AM

*shakes head but claps too*

How do movie studios ever manage to get it right?

They didn't realize we were this eager?! Have they never looked at the internet?!

Oh, well, I still love Universal for giving us this movie, even if I think some of their execs must be a little slow on the uptake!

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:36 AM

Hey Static... You mentioned Mission Valley... are you in San Diego?



Jaymes

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 12:31 PM

Hmm but what if the movie is moved to Labor Day weekend? No way we'll have the Cast and Joss at D*C during the opening weekend of the movie-

OTOH - if it's released late July/ early August there shouldn't be any conflicts...

Quote:

Originally posted by BONNIET:
Quote:

Originally posted by aver:
Not to be a glass-is half-empty type of person, but do you suppose if Serenity is released much earlier than Dragoncon Joss and the cast will pull out because of lack of the need to build up anticipation for the movie? I'd hate to book what will be a very expensive weekend on the condition of seeing my beloved Serenity people and then be disappointed. No refunds, ya know!
On the upside, of course, Serenity Now!



No, they would never do that. They are BDH, remember? They do these things out of LOVE.


"I can't keep track of her when she's not
incorporeally possessing a space ship.
Don't look at me."

http://www.cafepress.com/serenity05movie

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 12:38 PM

Well, this seems to be really cool. I'm glad that they're really optimistic about the pic. If they want to bump up the movie's release date, that's cool. I'm just hoping that it's not too early, you know what I'm saying.

I hope that they don't push it up so that it opens around, say, the end of August, for two reasons. One is that the end of August is usually kind of a dumping grounds for some of the weaker flicks of the summer. People are kinda movied out and are sick of the big fx vehicles, so that would kinda ruin SERENITY's changes at turning a profit, which we all know would be the only thing that would make sure our BDH's get the same longevity in movie theatres that Kirk and Co. got. And the second and more personal reason is that Terry Gilliam's cinematic return after an 8 year hiatus, THE BROTHERS GRIMM, is hitting theatres about that time. And that flick needs the same kind of attention our flick is getting. I mean, it's Terry Gilliam, for chrissakes.

Now beginning of August might be really shiny. That would indeed be a prime time to release the flick.

Peace

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

And wow! Hey! What's this thing suddenly coming towards me very fast? Very very fast. So big and flat and round, it needs a big wide sounding name like ... ow ... ound ... round ... ground! That's it! That's a good name - ground! I wonder if it will be friends with me?

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:34 PM

Huh....

Interesting.

However, being a naturally pessimistic science weasel, I have a question. (At least one, anyway.) Isn't there a rather big difference between a number crunching film distributor and an actual 'Versal decision making FatCat? That’s not to imply that I don’t believe the opening could be moved up. If it can be moved back 5 months, it sure as shit could be moved anywhere (within reason). Is this just Your Man talking, or does he have people behind him saying the same thing?

On a somewhat unrelated note, being "as big as Episode 3" means a world wide box office of $300M opening weekend (total in almost the first month was around $650M world wide). As much as I love Firefly - and as much as I hate categorical imperatives - that just ain't gonna happen.

Now, I’ve always been suspicious about all these advance screenings, and something you said here makes me even more so. (Yeesh, pessimistic and suspicious... I must have some redeeming qualities....) Of course the advance screenings are going to be madness; I can’t imagine it would be too difficult to find 200-300 fans and friends in 10, 25, and 35 cities willing to see the movie on a special day and time. 10,000 fans in the whole US isn’t a lot to ask for; there are what, 36,000 registered on the ‘Versal board? “Test Markets.” Plural. That’s what interests me.

The first test screening resulted in a somewhat results-skewing mass of BrownCoats in attendance. As someone mentioned, we are an inquisitive bunch, so I imagine as soon as one finds out about a test screening, others will find out in short order. So, if they need true “test markets,” but need to keep the BrownCoat contingent away.... Do you think they’re pulling a sleight of hand on us? Pointing the entire BrownCoat community in one direction – towards the advance screenings – while having rounds of true test screenings for the general masses elsewhere on the same night? I mean, it’s not like we’d be lookin’ for it cuz we’re all aflutter with the advance screenings just for us. (Hm. Add conspiratorial to my ever growing list of endearing traits.) Cuz, that might change things. Kinda curious about what y’all think....

At any rate, I have all my T-shirts queued up and ready to go on a moment’s (and a hard drive fixing’s) notice. Plans for attending the actual Premiere may have to change, but I can suffer through that.

(And on a completely unrelated note: Static, I'm still waiting on that photo of you in that black flight suit.)

Cheers.

无 党派 人士

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 1:50 PM

I think we also have to take into account the amount of fans that either couldn't get tickets, were too far away from a screening theater, or found that going to a different city to see a not-quite-complete version of the film at 10 p.m. on a work night just wasn't possible.

There are a lot of us out here that just couldn't make the screenings, so I think that when the film actually hits the numbers won't be skewed to just those 'Coats who saw the advance screenings.

Another big plus about the film perhaps coming earlier is that the DVDs will come out sooner, which is even better!

It also gives us more breathing room with the PA Shindig. That gathering is the weekend of October 8, and the Sept. 30 date was a little too close. Now we can travel and get together with other Browncoats for an earlier premiere.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"I've seen life on this planet, Scully, and that's precisely why I'm looking elsewhere."

-- Fox Mulder, The X-Files

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 2:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Flechette:


hate to say it but my first thought was---


DON'T Screw UP DragonCon!






You are not alone Flechette as "please don't mess up Dragon Con" was my first thoughts on reading this news too.

I don't want to sound ungrateful or anything if 'Versal does release the movie earlier than Sept 30th, but I don't want Joss or the BDHs pulling out of DC to attend premieres or premiere parties leaving us loyal Browncoats high & dry in Atlanta.

Thanks for posting the news Static. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

__________________________________________

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

Richmond, VA & surrounding area Firefly Fans:

http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/richmondbrowncoats/

NOTIFY: N  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 2:16 PM

About the Episode III thing--no way is Serenity going to be as big at the box office. ()

Nor did this guy really say it would, when you think about it. He said, "It's working out as well as "Star Wars."" Which I interpret as the test markets liking it as much as those of Ep III did. But how many people went to see Star Wars just because it was Star Wars?

Not to despair, though--while I don't believe Serenity (Episode I) will rack up nearly as much box office as Star Wars, this does bode well for a 20+ year entertainment legacy and five more films.

http://www.TelltaleProductions.tk

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 2:24 PM

This is great news, but as the trailer says ther are 'millions' of us worldwide. I reast my case.

...and we will call it...this land...

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 3:20 PM

Another problem I see w/ moving up the movie date is the SCIFI running of Firefly which builds up to the movie.

It seems to me that there's alot of promotional time that's getting ready to be shown and frankly moving the movie date again may not be in it's best interests.

I have yet to see the trailer in any theatre in Greensboro, haven't seen it on TV yet - I'd like to see at least a little more buzz aimed at people who aren't already Browncoats before the movie is released.


Then again I'd also love to see it next week fully released and everything

personal wants vs greater good - gah!

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 3:28 PM

Guys, our heros LOVE Dragon Con and Jewel told me Joss is excited as well, so trust me - he's not gonna let them mess up Dragon Con by putting the release date too close to it that the cast would have to miss out. I honestly hope it comes out BEFORE Dragon Con so we don't have to run spoiler control at panels for people who saw the advanced screening. Shiny shiny news, I'm excited. Though as someone said changing all the merchandise is gonna be a pain - but we've already done it once, so we should be pros by now! *still has many many things that say April 22nd* Just hang tight - Universal is here to take care of us, they won't let us down!

"When you can't run anymore you crawl and when you can't do that you find someone to carry you."

NOTIFY: N  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 3:29 PM

Back when it was in April-ish I was making plans to go from the Carolina's to LA for the premiere so I could stand by the red carpet.

Then they moved it to September.

Now...

*twitch* *twitch*

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 3:49 PM

Actually, they probably would still be going to the con. The premiere of the movie is anywhere from a few days to a week or more before the actual opening day, so assuming that's their largest conflict they should be able to make it. Plus, if your talking, like, talk show promotion they would do that on Friday during the day, so if I were you I wouldn't worry about it.

NOTIFY: N  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 3:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by everyworldspinnin:
While I certainly warmly embrace this news, I do have a question, and maybe other Browncoats can help answer.

Are the Versal folks tracking in any way the number of repeat viewers to the screenings?

Seems to me, that a lot of people will be on their 2nd and 3rd time seeing the BDM. While repeat viewings are a necessity for a highly successful run, does this make the numbers seem rosier than they are? I know that they added cities everytime, and they all sold out, but I'd just be interested to know how many "unique" viewers there were for the run of the screenings.


Well I doubt there was an official count or anything, but at the 5/26 Austin screening the Universal exec asked how many were at the 5/5 screening. I would say it was roughly a third of the hands that went up. So, they probably reported that. Which is pretty amazing considering that even if everyone from the first screening wanted to return they would have had to get ahold of tickets which is not exactly a walk in the park.

NOTIFY: N  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 4:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Flechette:


I have yet to see the trailer in any theatre in Greensboro...



They showed the Serenity trailer at the Carmike Cinemas on Koger Blvd with "Hitchhiker's".

Three or four of us yelled, "YES!!!!" and the rest of the PACKED house were all saying things like, "That looks cool" and 'ooh-ing', 'aah-inbg' and laughing at all the appropriate times.

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 4:52 PM

You know, speaking of HITCHIKER'S, to tell you the truth, in retrospect, I was glad that they moved SERENITY from its April release. Because looking back, if it had debued then, it probably would've petered out.

Everyone in the industry has been making a big deal about how for like the past 16 weeks or so, the overall gross and attendance was down cosiderably for the last year. Personally, I think it's stupid that they even worry about this stuff, because nothing could've topped last years incredible run, what with PASSION OF THE CHRIST, SHREK and SPIDER-MAN 2. But there's no sense in releasing something that's supposed to go off like a bombshell if very few were around to see it.

And if you want further evidence that it was all about timing, look at HITCHIKER'S. That flick pretty much had the same thing going for it (cult sci-fi comedy with huge following. Maybe even bigger than ours, since it's been around for twenty plus years, whereas we've only been around for three) Came out a week later than when SERENITY was supposed to be released. And while it did loads better than that XXX sequel (which I think it tanked because no one gave a shit about it), it's pretty much topped out at $50 million. It made back it's budget, but you can't categorize it as a blockbuster, can you?

Timing is key. And coming out late Sept, early Oct is a smart move. Whe it makes MATRIX money and the sequels are greenlit (hoepfully not to be filmed at the same time. You don't want to bleed it dry like they did with RELOADED/REVOLUTIONS), THEN they'll get the sweet summer or winter openings that all the big blockbuster's get.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

And wow! Hey! What's this thing suddenly coming towards me very fast? Very very fast. So big and flat and round, it needs a big wide sounding name like ... ow ... ound ... round ... ground! That's it! That's a good name - ground! I wonder if it will be friends with me?

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 4:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by reannaremick:
Guys, our heros LOVE Dragon Con and Jewel told me Joss is excited as well, so trust me - he's not gonna let them mess up Dragon Con by putting the release date too close to it that the cast would have to miss out. I honestly hope it comes out BEFORE Dragon Con so we don't have to run spoiler control at panels for people who saw the advanced screening. Shiny shiny news, I'm excited. Though as someone said changing all the merchandise is gonna be a pain - but we've already done it once, so we should be pros by now! *still has many many things that say April 22nd* Just hang tight - Universal is here to take care of us, they won't let us down!



Now here's a thought (okay, so maybe it's more of a fantasy ): What if they were to premiere the movie *at* DragonCon? Of course, the con would be in utter chaos and no one would be able to get in...

On second thought...Universal, please disregard what I just said! Not on Labor Day weekend, please!!

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 5:04 PM

In regard to test screenings... these can be people that the studio brings in to see a screening and usually is carefully demographic-ed or whatever-you-call-it. I doubt they're happening on the same nights as the advanced screenings. Who knows.

Someone said somewhere that advanced screenings counted towards the opening numbers of the film. Is that true?

I'll certainly go see this movie multiple times whenever it hits theatres, and I'm looking forward to the screening on the 23rd.

NOTIFY: N  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 5:54 PM

They didn't keep it or didn't show it on all showings then,cause wasn't there when a friend and fellow browncoat saw HG2TG a week after opening.

Then again, since I haven't seen every movie at every theatre I did perhaps speak a bit too widely- it was based on my calling all the theatres in the area (even Sedgefield) and being told they didn't have the trailer/ haven't shown the trailer for Serenity.

edit----

don't mean to imply I doubt your word Static, I believe you guys saw it - just trying to point out that many others in Gso did not see it and the theatre staff themselves don't seem to know they have the trailer....





Quote:

Originally posted by Static:
Quote:

Originally posted by Flechette:


I have yet to see the trailer in any theatre in Greensboro...



They showed the Serenity trailer at the Carmike Cinemas on Koger Blvd with "Hitchhiker's".

Three or four of us yelled, "YES!!!!" and the rest of the PACKED house were all saying things like, "That looks cool" and 'ooh-ing', 'aah-inbg' and laughing at all the appropriate times.

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 6:31 PM

I'll be happy for the release in Sept. I'd be even happier if it came out the 9th.

My birthday is the 12th, so I can spend my days off watching Serenity!!

--------------
MAL: Everybody's makin' a fuss.

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 7:01 PM

Static,

Have you checked with your contact he is okay with your listing his name here, together with quoting him?

You need to bear in mind SERENITY is a commercial property, and is therefore subject to confidentiality. All those involved are limited as to what they can say publicly. This is asking for trouble, trust me.

TheInside.org - Firefly Producers NEW TV series

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 7:18 PM

Thanks for sharing the great news Static! I enjoyed the advance screening, but can't wait to see Serenity in it's finished form. Many times.

NOTIFY: N  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:31 PM

The selfish part of me wants the earliest release possible, but let's fantisize for a moment....Oscars are usually later movies. While the movie is on thier minds late Sept will be great for Joss not as great for us to wait. I would like to see Joss accepting an Oscar for a show that was cancelled.

NOTIFY: N  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:35 PM

OMG! OMG! *runs around in happy delirium* Whoot! Yee-HAH!!!!

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:

“Test Markets.” Plural. That’s what interests me.
...
Do you think they’re pulling a sleight of hand on us? Pointing the entire BrownCoat community in one direction – towards the advance screenings – while having rounds of true test screenings for the general masses elsewhere on the same night?



They were doing some (generally unannounced) test screenings as early as late last year. IIRC, a few browncoats did get into those because someone 'on the inside' told them about it. Largely those were standard movie test screening audiences, though, picked at pseudo-random (possibly with some demographic weightings) from local malls, plazas, tourist traps, etc. in the LA area...

Jayne, your mouth is talkin. Might want to look into that.

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 10:12 PM

Let’s all take a breath of fresh air, here.

What Static has done, by way of contacting the distributor’s representative, is a cool move which reflects well on Browncoats and is a positive step toward fuelling the hype required to make the BDM a big damn success. Given, as I understand it, that Static was enquiring about a specific showing at a specific theatre, and received gushing tributes from the distributor’s rep suggesting they sure wished they had released Serenity straightaway, bodes well for the confidence in their product. So, good news for us fans.

But that guy’s job is to facilitate the hype. He’s not going to say that Serenity sucks. He knows that any hype is good hype. And he knows that pre-sold fans such as us aren’t likely to allow a little resentment over vague promises regarding earlier release dates keep us from paying to see the BDM when it finally does hit the screens.

Release dates shift all the time, for various reasons. Studios commonly delay releases for financial (ran out of bucks, or cost over-runs) and marketing (don’t want to open up against Star Wars) reasons. Yes, sometimes release dates are pushed forward, but this is almost always to fill a market niche before a similar movie is released by a competitor. (In which case things get a might exciting for us post-prod types… but I digress).

Here’s when the release dates are locked in: when the distributors commit to their advertisers. When the ads come out in Variety or on trailers, and say something like, oh, “September 30th”, you can bet yer ass that heaven and earth shall be moved, if necessary, to make that date. Which is to say: the working grunts involved in manufacturing the film (or digital) product will be whipped into whatever frenzy is necessary to meet the delivery by that deadline. By the same token, that date will be held to, marketing-fuelled pre-screenings aside, even if the product (film) has long been fully assembled.

Well now, seems the studios have made their advertising commitment by way of the Serenity trailer, and it says “September 30th”.

I’d be ecstatic if I were wrong on this one.

Relax: it’s a helluva movie. Worth the wait.


http://www3.sympatico.ca/ldnemeth/images/blackjacksilver.GIF

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WhoIsRiver:
Static,

Have you checked with your contact he is okay with your listing his name here, together with quoting him?

You need to bear in mind SERENITY is a commercial property, and is therefore subject to confidentiality. All those involved are limited as to what they can say publicly. This is asking for trouble, trust me.

TheInside.org - Firefly Producers NEW TV series



Good point, and while it's a bit late in coming, I've edited the post that lists his actual name.

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 10:18 PM

Man, I've skipped this thread because aside from a period lying to Camp America about my ability to teach (which is whole other story) I've not hit, nor am I likely to hit NC, but this is cool as all get out (and realise as a Brit that phrase doesn't scan) - I'm ignoring the rest of the thread to just post this:)

We're bigger than Star Wars.

I then kew

"I threw up on your bed"

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

YT
Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:53 PM

I'd like to thank Haken (or was it you, Shiny) for putting this thread in the news headlines section. In an effort to do something besides read Fireflyfans.net, I've become selective in what threads I open. Since I haven't seen the BDM, I avoid movie spoilers, & as one might expect, I skip thread titles that don't interest me. But that doesn't save me enough time, so I also avoid threads with titles that are non-descriptive, or all caps, or use multiple exclamation points or question marks. This thread fails all three tests, so I passed on it.

But it is News.

Quote:

Originally posted by Shiny:
They were doing some (generally unannounced) test screenings as early as late last year. IIRC, a few browncoats did get into those because someone 'on the inside' told them about it.


The first screening was so inundated with fans that the testers realized it was useless, prompting the second screening.

Quote:

Largely those were standard movie test screening audiences, though, picked at pseudo-random (possibly with some demographic weightings) from local malls, plazas, tourist traps, etc. in the LA area...


Reckon I don't go to those places 'cause the only place I've ever seen 'em is a particular few cinemas (these days, only multiplexes). These test screenings are not anonymous. Each of the folks giving away passes will have a 1-sheet with title, maybe a still, familiar names (if any), & brief synopsis. And test screeners are now also recruited via email listserve. This may have been how the first test of Serenity got swamped by fans. For it to have been due to a leak, the leak would've had to come from the testers, since you have to call with a code-key to get your name on the admission list. And the testers don't like such leaks, 'cause they waste time & money.

Keep the Shiny Side Up . . . (wutzon) Moe, "Shoot First"

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:58 PM

I'm personally happy that it's going to be on 9/30 because it's only a little after DragonCon and my birthday. So I'm selfish. *shrug* But it seems like a good move to me.

- Jade Kadir
"But as for me I am tormented with an everlasting itch for things remote."
- From "Moby Dick" by Herman Melville.

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Thursday, June 16, 2005 3:18 AM

"It's working out as well as "Star Wars" and if we'd started in May, it would have run all summer."
-----

As pretty as that sounds, I'm not buying it.
Star Wars would have knocked Serenity out of the theatres.
You do realize that when it opened, multiplexes were showing pretty much NOTHING but Star Wars?
12 and 16 plexes had Star Wars on every screen.
If they'd started in May, the BDM would be off the screens starting on Star Wars's opening day: buried, completely.
Look, I love me some Firefly and I'm hot for Serenity...but I'm realistic enough to know that it would have been blown away by the Star Wars juggernaut.
The good folks at Universal aren't stupid.
They knew what they were up against, and even though they have faith in the BDM, they weren't crazy enough to release Serenity anywhere NEAR Star Wars.
That's my humble opinion.



"Take me, sir. Take me hard." -- Zoe

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Thursday, June 16, 2005 3:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cozen:
Well now, seems the studios have made their advertising commitment by way of the Serenity trailer, and it says “September 30th”.



Just double-checked the trailer -- it says "This Fall", and doesn't give a specific date. (Not unusual, because why make a commitment if you don't have to?)

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:50 AM

I Love You Guys.

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:57 AM

I can vouch for the fact that there's a lot of local interest in Serenity! I've got four grad school friends who either live in Raleigh or within an hour of it - one of whom turned me on to Firefly to begin with - and all of them have heard about the Big Damn Premiere plans and want to know the minute tickets go on sale.

I've watched a lot of movies at Mission Valley, and they'd better have this movie in their biggest theatre on opening night / midnight, that's all I'm saying.



NOTIFY: N  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Thursday, June 16, 2005 5:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by GordonComstock:


Just double-checked the trailer -- it says "This Fall", and doesn't give a specific date. (Not unusual, because why make a commitment if you don't have to?)



Ooooh... good point!

http://www3.sympatico.ca/ldnemeth/images/blackjacksilver.GIF

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Thursday, June 16, 2005 5:40 AM

SUPER SHINY X3

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:44 PM

Someone just emailed me that Serenity is coming to small town in West Virginia on July 29th! He assumes that will be the widespread release date, because well, why else would the movie come to his little town?

I will find out from him how he knows, and post it here.

Can't Take My Gorram Sky

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Thursday, June 16, 2005 3:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by canttakesky:
Someone just emailed me that Serenity is coming to small town in West Virginia on July 29th! He assumes that will be the widespread release date, because well, why else would the movie come to his little town?

I will find out from him how he knows, and post it here.

Can't Take My Gorram Sky



Oh, I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this is true. The end of July would be the perfect timeframe to open since there really isn't anything else big opening at that time, and they still have a month of summer left to do business.

Shiny!

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Thursday, June 16, 2005 3:57 PM

Ok, my friend says he saw the 7/29/05 release date attached to the Serenity trailer when he went to see Batman Begins.

I wonder why we haven't heard anything from any other moviegoers? Is this an error?

If it does come out on July 29, I need you all to keep it in the theatres for at least FOUR weeks. I am going out of the country and won't be back until Aug 24th--it needs to still be in theatres by then. PLEASE.

Can't Take My Gorram Sky

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:29 PM

If so that would be right before my B-Day Aug 1st- shiny.

Check out my shop! Firefly & LOST products.
http://www.zazzle.com/contributors/products/gallery/browse_results.asp
?cid=238187680745956238


"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the road less traveled by and they CANCELLED MY FRIKKIN' SHOW. I totally shoulda took the road that had all those people on it. Damn." --Joss

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Thursday, June 16, 2005 4:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by canttakesky:
Someone just emailed me that Serenity is coming to small town in West Virginia on July 29th!



Damnit! I heard it was July 39th! My plans are all shot to hell!

Scifi movie music 24 hours a day - http://www.scifiradio.net

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Thursday, June 16, 2005 5:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pizmobeach:

Damnit! I heard it was July 39th! My plans are all shot to hell!



*snort*

What ever happens...i'm seeing Serenity more than once. So, just tell me when it opens and I'll meet you there.

www.thatweirdgirl.com
---
Can we not revel in our cyber-love?

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Thursday, June 16, 2005 5:55 PM

Um, Static? I just heard that this very conversation that you have transcribed has now been posted on buffy.nu

Did you know about that?

PsychicRiver

"Two by two, hands of blue."
"We'll take care of each other. I'll knit!"

Summer Glau to me - "You are so photogenic."

Me -

NOTIFY: N  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Thursday, June 16, 2005 5:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by thatweirdgirl:
What ever happens...i'm seeing Serenity more than once. So, just tell me when it opens and I'll meet you there.


Ditto - guess I'm lucky 'cuz my plans are... fluid.

Just another bit of info, Apple's trailer link/site says, "In Theatres Sept. 30th." So there. On the other hand, that could still be true if it opened on an earlier date...

Scifi movie music 24 hours a day - http://www.scifiradio.net

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Thursday, June 16, 2005 6:09 PM

oops. yeah, I just read it. That can't be good. Why would they post it as offical news and then not give the link?

Poeple are getting mad over there about it not being Joss.



www.thatweirdgirl.com
---
Can we not revel in our cyber-love?

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Friday, June 17, 2005 2:14 AM


Damnit! I heard it was July 39th! My plans are all shot to hell!


Do you realize you typed july39th instead of 29th?
Maybe that really is the day it'll come out

She understands, she doesn't comprehend

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Friday, June 17, 2005 2:21 AM

until we hear an official word from either Joss or Universal, i wouldnt start dancing around just yet.

NOTIFY: N  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Friday, June 17, 2005 12:06 PM

Saw Batman Begins last night at the Carmike and it did have the Serenity trailer: so apologies to Static on that subject!

unfortunately it was like the 5th or 6th trailer after about 5 commercials and really did not get any positive responses from a half full auditorium- the most common I heard was "what the f**K is that supposed to be?"


I still feel that Universal needs to do more promotion other than fueling our grassroots guerilla marketing campaign in order for Serenity to take off properly tho


Quote:

Originally posted by Flechette:
They didn't keep it or didn't show it on all showings then,cause wasn't there when a friend and fellow browncoat saw HG2TG a week after opening.

Then again, since I haven't seen every movie at every theatre I did perhaps speak a bit too widely- it was based on my calling all the theatres in the area (even Sedgefield) and being told they didn't have the trailer/ haven't shown the trailer for Serenity.

edit----

don't mean to imply I doubt your word Static, I believe you guys saw it - just trying to point out that many others in Gso did not see it and the theatre staff themselves don't seem to know they have the trailer....





Quote:

Originally posted by Static:
Quote:

Originally posted by Flechette:


I have yet to see the trailer in any theatre in Greensboro...



They showed the Serenity trailer at the Carmike Cinemas on Koger Blvd with "Hitchhiker's".

Three or four of us yelled, "YES!!!!" and the rest of the PACKED house were all saying things like, "That looks cool" and 'ooh-ing', 'aah-inbg' and laughing at all the appropriate times.


NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Friday, June 17, 2005 1:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Flechette:

I still feel that Universal needs to do more promotion other than fueling our grassroots guerilla marketing campaign in order for Serenity to take off properly tho


Y'all do realize that Uni has a Marketing Department and they have a schedule to begin marketing this movie that they paid more than a little bit of money for, no?
I mean, we don't even know the release schedule yet. They might be planning an initial limited release. Some cities might not get the BDM until figures come in to proove that a wider release is warranted.
(Here in Vegas, we didn't get "Crouching Tiger"--at the one theatre that ran it--until after the Oscar nominations came out. We didn't get "Chicago" on Christmas Day...we got it a few weeks later.)
Starting a promo campagain too early can be almost as bad as starting it too late.
Me? I'm looking for BDStars showing up on chat shows, E!, entertainment segments on news shows.
Would be nice to see Joss show up on the Early Show or (gak) the Today Show, talking about how he got a canceled TV show--with a rabid fan base--made into a major motion picture.
The promotion machine is just starting to run, people.
Have patience...and remember: Next week, September 30th will only be 3 months away!



"Take me, sir. Take me hard." -- Zoe

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Friday, June 17, 2005 3:55 PM

Absolutely!

All of my comments were/are aimed at the premise of a release date of 6 weeks away - which is unconfirmed.

For a release in late Sept we've got plenty of time- for a release in July - the promos better start rolling out ASAP and perhaps a re-edited trailer for the un initiated....

Quote:

Originally posted by Tallgrrl:
Y'all do realize that Uni has a Marketing Department and they have a schedule to begin marketing this movie that they paid more than a little bit of money for, no?
I mean, we don't even know the release schedule yet. They might be planning an initial limited release. Some cities might not get the BDM until figures come in to proove that a wider release is warranted.
(Here in Vegas, we didn't get "Crouching Tiger"--at the one theatre that ran it--until after the Oscar nominations came out. We didn't get "Chicago" on Christmas Day...we got it a few weeks later.)
Starting a promo campagain too early can be almost as bad as starting it too late.
Me? I'm looking for BDStars showing up on chat shows, E!, entertainment segments on news shows.
Would be nice to see Joss show up on the Early Show or (gak) the Today Show, talking about how he got a canceled TV show--with a rabid fan base--made into a major motion picture.
The promotion machine is just starting to run, people.
Have patience...and remember: Next week, September 30th will only be 3 months away!



"Take me, sir. Take me hard." -- Zoe

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Saturday, June 18, 2005 8:47 AM

Hyperventilating with excitement...

Will 'Versal put it up against tWotW, though? (not that I care...I hate TC)

And as much of a disappointment SW3 was *TO ME*, IMHO, I really think Serenity could have done well against it.

...off to recruit more Browncoats!

**********
"Do you know what the chain of command is here? It's the chain I go get and beat you with to show you who's in ruttin' command."

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Saturday, June 18, 2005 6:26 PM


Tallgrrl wrote:

Quote:

...and remember: Next week, September 30th will only be 3 months away!

And that was supposed to help us feel less forlorn and forsaken?!? On the other hand, remember that July 29th is only one month after the release of Spielberg's "The War of the Worlds" premiere.

VU have been doing promotions for Serenity since at least 5 May, by means of insane word of mouth regarding preview screenings. Throwing the promo machine into high gear a little earlier than expected could work out just fine, and be rewarded by Summer attendance figures. Let's face it: There's not much left this Summer season to look forward to/fear.

With the exception of WotW (Spielberg and Cruise, again?! Like the reunification of East and West Germany, I'm not so sure about the wisdom of this plan) and 'Chaz and His Fudge Factory' (Burton and Depp are the antithesis of Spielberg/Cruise) there doesn't seem to be any blockbusters lining the lists. If Serenity were a run-of-the-mill first-time director's flick, I'd say leave it 'til September. But the buzz is insane, and at some point, you've got to capitalize before it wanes.

I saw the first TV spot for WotW like 10 days ago and it opens in 11 more days. (*does math in head, smells something burning*) So, that's like less than a month of TV promos for a Spielberg blockbuster. Think we're gonna get a bigger ad budget than that for Serenity?

Typically, stars of movies making the TV interview circuit are promoting their flick which is opening at the end of that week. Think we'll see all our BDHs two or more weeks in advance of Serenity's opening?

There's plenty of time for a 29 July opening and associated promos. I'm not saying that it should or will happen on 7/29/05 (or 29/7/05, for those more comfortable with that format). I'm just saying that time is not a factor...


Respectfully,

zoid
_________________________________________________

"Sure as I know anything, I know this: I aim to misbehave." -Capt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity, a.k.a. 'the BDM'

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Saturday, June 18, 2005 6:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by zoid:
I'm not saying that it should or will happen on 7/29/05 (or 29/7/05



WHAT?! Not until Undetrigintober?!?

Oh, HELL no! I am NOT waiting another twenty-three months for this damn movie to come out!

_________
Sliders: Gate Haven - http://slidersweb.net/blinker

NOTIFY: N  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Sunday, June 19, 2005 9:41 AM

I'd be interested in knowing (for reasons to remain my own) if anyone out there is postponing suicide until after Serenity.

That's the only thing that would make a 23 month delay sort of a good thing.

Only sort of, mind. Because cure is better than postponement, and Joss Whedon has a way of making me want to live a little longer.



Chaos is purring - it is time to turn the page...

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Monday, June 20, 2005 11:37 PM

OMG!! I am so excited i want to see it NOW though omg i want to know when its coming out! but anyway i can't believe he said that omg! wow!

~Jezabella
Go to my website please!! at: www.freewebs.com/moviemaniak2010
"When you can't run you crawl...and when you can't do that you find someone to carry you"
~Tracy (Episode: The Message)
"What did ya all order a dead guy for."
~Jayne

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by HelenRees520:
I'd be interested in knowing (for reasons to remain my own) if anyone out there is postponing suicide until after Serenity.




Haha.

Okay, my grandparents apparently think I'm depressed and suicidal, and my cousin told me this and the first thing I thought was:

"I could never kill myself. I haven't even seen Serenity yet."

Hahahah

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Tuesday, June 21, 2005 1:37 PM

WOW, Morbid!
But I think I understand that notion. I was hoping I would make it to SW3 and I did and for a sec, I was like, I could Die now... Silly silly thought, it's just a movie!

I had a friend die back in 1998 a couple of months before Saving Private Ryan came out. I remember thinking , man, Brendan would have loved that movie.

Life is good guys! Even after the BDM comes out. Life will still be good! Maybe a little hard at times But that's the fun part! As our Shepherd book says "Cause how you get there is the worthier part."

Life is good! Its an adventure!

"Jesus saves, everyone else takes damage" -tee shirt some girl was wearing at Megacon.

http://dantedreams.com <-my webcomic

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Tuesday, June 21, 2005 3:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HelenRees520:
I'd be interested in knowing (for reasons to remain my own) if anyone out there is postponing suicide until after Serenity.

That's the only thing that would make a 23 month delay sort of a good thing.

Only sort of, mind. Because cure is better than postponement, and Joss Whedon has a way of making me want to live a little longer.



Chaos is purring - it is time to turn the page...


hehe after I saw the first screening I told my friend I could now die happily and the rest of life was just falling action. Serenity's that good.

NOTIFY: N  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Tuesday, June 21, 2005 4:03 PM

I'm spreading a link to Netflix rental of the movie everywhere I can, and offering to send "friend" invites to the service for anyone who wants one. (Basically, this is a way for anyone, anywhere in the USA, to watch the first couple Firefly DVDs for free.)
_____________
"They weren't cows inside. They were waiting to be, but they forgot. Now they see the sky and they remember what they are." ~ [url= http://www.netflix.com/MovieDisplay?movieid=60033036;trkid=181026]Rive
r
Tam[/url]

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 22, 2005 2:37 PM

Well, now that my plans are being changed again for the summer... Oh yea. And to top it off, the theaters are just getting smart enought to run the trailers in the Tampa Bay area. But it looks like they've added some stuff to the original trailer And they didn't even give a release date, so it seems like 'versal isn't sure when they're gonna be nice and let us see our BDM yet. So get ahold of TWG for me and tell her I'll buy her the beer right before we hit the show

adam_mcm

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, June 22, 2005 7:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GordonComstock:
Quote:

Originally posted by cozen:
Well now, seems the studios have made their advertising commitment by way of the Serenity trailer, and it says “September 30th”.



Just double-checked the trailer -- it says "This Fall", and doesn't give a specific date. (Not unusual, because why make a commitment if you don't have to?)



It doesn't matter what the trailer says. For example Fantastic 4 said July 4, and now says July 8. Changing dates on trailers happens all the time.

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Friday, June 24, 2005 4:42 PM

You speak the truth! I'm wondering what else is planned for Lt August or Labor Day - sort of the reverse of the SW-Memorial day connection - .....we'll have to keep our ears open
Reb

Reb
Introducing Firefly where ever I can
Brown! it's better than Black

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Friday, June 24, 2005 4:42 PM

You speak the truth! I'm wondering what else is planned for Lt August or Labor Day - sort of the reverse of the SW-Memorial day connection - .....we'll have to keep our ears open
Reb

Reb
Introducing Firefly where ever I can
Brown! it's better than Black

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Friday, June 24, 2005 4:42 PM

You speak the truth! I'm wondering what else is planned for Lt August or Labor Day - sort of the reverse of the SW-Memorial day connection - .....we'll have to keep our ears open
Reb

Reb
Introducing Firefly where ever I can
Brown! it's better than Black

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME