MSN poll We're Getting CREAMED!
POSTED BY: Gophermuncher
UPDATED: Monday, September 19, 2005 16:46
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http://movies.msn.com/movies/2005Fall/Home
we're at 8% while corpsebride is at 40%! Lets show them how mighty we are 
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9%.
Bump.
for you, my reputation is fact.
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I cast my vote.
Here are the current standings:
"An Unfinished Life" 3%
"Doom" 6%
"Elizabethtown" 8%
"FlightPlan" 8%
"In Her Shoes" 2%
"Just Like Heaven" 13%
"Legend of Zorro" 10%
"Serenity" 9%
"Shopgirl" 2%
Tim Burton's "Corpse Bride" 39%
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10% now.
Serenity, First Officer of Destiny
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Still 10%.
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I can see you.
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Still 10% :(
Come on you Browncoats!
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Delete your cookies after voting , hit refresh, and you can vote again!
Still 10% :(
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Originally posted by Rednax:
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Now 11% ! (I voted quite a few times)
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11%.
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yep, 11%
Repeat voting kind-of defeats the purpose of a poll, doesn't it? *ducks and runs*
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Originally posted by pingjing:
yep, 11%
Repeat voting kind-of defeats the purpose of a poll, doesn't it? *ducks and runs*
Have to agree with you - surely it means more if lots of people genuinely want to see Serenity, rather than a few well-meaning BCs casting multiple votes?
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12% 
Peace
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12% now!
Keep it coming!!
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Originally posted by fray101:Quote:
Originally posted by pingjing:
yep, 11%
Repeat voting kind-of defeats the purpose of a poll, doesn't it? *ducks and runs*
Have to agree with you - surely it means more if lots of people genuinely want to see Serenity, rather than a few well-meaning BCs casting multiple votes?
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My thought is that if people see a 15% or higher on the polls, it may pique their interest enough into going to see it and opening themselves up to the shiny goodness that is Serenity.
Hmmmmm...
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Quote:
Originally posted by fray101:Quote:
Originally posted by pingjing:
yep, 11%
Repeat voting kind-of defeats the purpose of a poll, doesn't it? *ducks and runs*
Have to agree with you - surely it means more if lots of people genuinely want to see Serenity, rather than a few well-meaning BCs casting multiple votes?
It's completely wrong and unethical... but if people who have never heard of Serenity see it at the top of the list they may just go, "huh?! Serenity? It must be good, I think I'll go see it..." And then they'll buy the DVDs and watch them and get the comics and then start posting here - we'd actually be doing them a favor... how can that be bad?
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12% still.
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Quote:
Originally posted by pingjing:
Repeat voting kind-of defeats the purpose of a poll, doesn't it? *ducks and runs*
Public awareness by any means!!! A higher % on such a high profile site means more people will be asking themselves, "What is this thing call Serenity?". :)
That can't not be a bad thing! ;)
Freedom - Peace - Serenity
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We're at 15% now...
(36% for Corpse Bride)
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Now at 16%......
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Could it be due to the Corps Bride trailers being shown on TV now?? I have YET to see a Serenity trailer either on TV or in the theater.
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17%.
"Not a scientifically valid survey," it says. So I think we can cheat, since there's a disclaimer and all . . .
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I will gladly go and vote for Serenity, however I will only do so once.
Deleting you cookies and voting multiple times is unethical, and I am ashamed of those who would do such a thing.
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C'mon, if we can beat Harry Potter at yahoo, we can do this. WITHOUT cheating (although I'll vote on both my PCs, that's fair ^_^).
Serenity= 18%
Corpse Bride= 35%
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Originally posted by Starrbaby:
Deleting you cookies and voting multiple times is unethical, and I am ashamed of those who would do such a thing.
You're right, of course. I hereby retract my (very shoddy) attempt at justification.
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We've moved it this far in about 2hrs during a work/school day. Don't think we've got any need to be cheatin'.
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Just cast my vote. Still stands at 18%.
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"Serenity" 18%
Tim Burton's "Corpse Bride" 35%
2595 responses
Freedom - Peace - Serenity
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I just voted, still at 18%
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Just voted!
19% now
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I've said it before about these online polls - they aren't contests we can win or tests we can cheat on. They are purely for entertainment, and if I can get Serenity more exposure by voting more than once I will do it. So should you!
Here's a quote from MSNBC about their live votes and surveys,
"MSNBC’s Live Votes are not intended to be a scientific sample of national opinion. Instead, they are part of the same interactive dialogue that takes place in our online chat sessions: a way to share your views on the news with MSNBC writers and editors and with your fellow users. Let us know what you think."
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19% now. We can do better don't you think?
A swhat?
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IMO ethics and online “Buzz Gauging/Non-scientific” polls are apples and oranges. If it was supposed to be a scientific poll then there are many things MSN could have done to prevent/reduce the number of multiple votes.
In part, the purpose of these polls is to gauge the amount of “buzz“ that is surrounding a film. This includes gauging how quickly word of the poll spreads among the fan base. It is obvious that “Corpse Bride” fans got an early start on the voting/multiple voting. If a certain fan base were to try and be ethical in one of these polls, it would only prove that the fan base wasn’t as excited about their film (or in some cases, not as large and not capable of high vote count).
Multiple voting in these entertainment polls is expected. If it wasn’t then they “Would” take steps to make it a poll that produced more “scientific” results.
Basically, it's all in good fun and let the most rabid fan base win!!!! :)
Freedom - Peace - Serenity
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I just voted and we're at 21%
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I voted! 22% I will send to friends and family!
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23%. Getting there. :D
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24% come on guys were in second Tim Burton's "Corpse Bride" is beating us with 33%
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i just voted...24%:)
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I agree that this poll is just for fun, and it probably won't matter if someone votes more than once.
However, I will not change my mind that doing so is wrong, and I won't do it.
I'd also like to think that most Browncoats have enough class to not rig a poll. That way, when Serenity wins, we know it's because it really is the most anticipated movie.
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Originally posted by Starrbaby:
I agree that this poll is just for fun, and it probably won't matter if someone votes more than once.
However, I will not change my mind that doing so is wrong, and I won't do it.
I'd also like to think that most Browncoats have enough class to not rig a poll. That way, when Serenity wins, we know it's because it really is the most anticipated movie.
That's my point too - if we all vote once, and it still wins, we'll know that Serenity is genuinely anticpated by lots of people. I appreciate your argument that it's all good hype - but it's still false hype.
But hey, it's all a bit of fun anyway.
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25% Go us!!
Because I am an American. And what does an American want? Democracy? Capitalism. I want to sell out and settle down. For one day only, it's a blue light special on Aisle Three. My wormhole technology... and a free set of steak knives... for all the tea in China. And anything you can imagine to pay me... welcome to my cold war.
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28% vs 31%... we're even keel now :)
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29%!
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currently 29% to 31%
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30% to 30%! WHOO!
Does anyone else think this is turning into a military operation?
See poll.
Target poll.
Dive onto poll like a flock of vultures.
Leave the opponent in ruins.
Wander on to next target.
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Just voted and now it's 30% to 30%!
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30% to 30%
I do appreciate the point about voting multiple times - but.....
I think we can use all the help we can get - I just had a relative email cause of this poll -- he'd never heard of Serenity and wanted to know what I could tell him about it. He was interested cause he wanted to know what could have come close to Corpse bride!
So even if people don't vote - they are looking at what other people are waiting to see-- :D
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Mwahaha! 30% vs 30%! Serenity is going nowhere but up.
But that's old news by now...
Hey, is Serenity really a HORROR/SCI-FI?
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Still 30% to 30% with 3282 votes.
Mal-licious
I'm going to add cursing and the hurling about of things to my repertoire.
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Serenity 31%
Corpse Bride 30%
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Originally posted by Phoebe:
Does anyone else think this is turning into a military operation?
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32 to 28.
Take that Burton.
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32%
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33%
Alright!
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Just threw in my vote; still 33%, but its still #1 on that list!! woot!
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I haven't voted yet (because I was reading this thread) but I'm about to. I definitely think that Corpse Bride had more votes because of the fact that they have ads on TV. But, those ads just started recently and it is being released Friday (in some places, anyway). Once Serenity's trailer hits TV, the number will jump up whether any Browncoat multi-votes or not. Besides, as a proud, red-blooded American I know there's nothing wrong with voting multiple times. People have been doing it in our elections for ages.
Did he just go crazy and then fall asleep?
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i don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but i think even if we were losing b4 and r now ahead (shiny!) it's till awesome to have the BDM as one of the possibilities
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I'm against voting multiple times. It's far more satisfying to win a poll fair and square.
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34% now and 5% ahead of Corpse Bride!
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35%
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Still 35%, can't stall now,
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Tim Burton guys, come on, coming second behind him wouldn't be so bad now would it?
*suddenly realises she should have created a pseudonym*
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serenity: 36%
corpse's bride: 28%
yep. good day.
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ehhhh.
This will probably chase more people away than bring them in.
If you wanna win a poll just get more browncoats to vote rather than voting multiple times yoruself.
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37%.
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"An Unfinished Life" 2%
"Doom" 4%
"Elizabethtown" 7%
"FlightPlan" 5%
"In Her Shoes" 1%
"Just Like Heaven" 8%
"Legend of Zorro" 7%
"Serenity" 37% :biggrin
"Shopgirl" 1%
Tim Burton's "Corpse Bride" 27%
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Holding tight at 37%. This was my first and only vote.
Me like Serenity. Serenity is winning. Me happy.
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MAL: Politely.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Starrbaby:
I agree that this poll is just for fun, and it probably won't matter if someone votes more than once. However, I will not change my mind that doing so is wrong, and I won't do it.
I'd also like to think that most Browncoats have enough class to not rig a poll. That way, when Serenity wins, we know it's because it really is the most anticipated movie.
Good for you! I won't toss my cookies either - still, I wonder what Mal Reynolds would do...
"Tim Burton's "Corpse Bride" 27%
"Serenity" 37%
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woot serenity 38% Corpse 27%!
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I don't think very many people are multi-voting. Just that one dude. And besides, whats wrong with a little cheating from time to time. I'm sure the Tim Burton guys cheated a bit too.
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Originally posted by Gophermuncher:
http://movies.msn.com/movies/2005Fall/Home
we're at 8% while corpsebride is at 40%! Lets show them how mighty we are
Here's the poll standings now, as they stood when I just voted:
What movie are you looking forward to seeing this Fall? * 3800 responses
2% "An Unfinished Life"
4% "Doom"
7% "Elizabethtown"
5% "FlightPlan"
1% "In Her Shoes"
8% "Just Like Heaven"
7% "Legend of Zorro"
38% "Serenity"
1% "Shopgirl"
27% "Tim Burton's "Corpse Bride"
Way to go, Browncoats!
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Originally posted by pingjing:
yep, 11%
Repeat voting kind-of defeats the purpose of a poll, doesn't it? *ducks and runs*
Depends on what the purpose is - here the purpose is clearly to get to number one *g*
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Serenity: 39%
Corpse Bride: 26%
Way to go Browncoats!!!
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Quote:
Originally posted by TaintedBlu:
IAnd besides, whats wrong with a little cheating from time to time.
Are you serious? Please tell me you're kidding. That's like asking, "What's wrong with stealing if you only do it every once in a while?"Quote:
I'm sure the Tim Burton guys cheated a bit too.
So how does that make it right?
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12:42 EST Friday
Serenity 39%
Corpse Bride 26%
We'd have more (without your suggestion) if the tv commercials were on yet.
Mary
Always a beast, never a burden. 
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The trailers will be aired soon. I heard something about 2 weeks before the opening.
The trailers will definately bump the #s. I've had people see the trailer then ask to borrow my DVDs.
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40%!
"Don't say 'ka' until you've tried it." Daniel Jackson
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Originally posted by Emma:
Tim Burton guys, come on, coming second behind him wouldn't be so bad now would it?
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I've got one you can borrow, Em!
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Usually a lurker, 'cause I tend to get quickly addicted to anything related to Joss, but I had to chime in on this because... well... mostly because I had coffee & it's just too hard to be quiet.
I voted only once. I think that's right & good. (Serenity's at 40% after my vote)
Cheating is naughty.
But I would cheat if Serenity fell behind.
Is there some kind of frightening psychological profile I fit?
BTW, the creativity of Browncoat brains makes it pretty fun to be a lurker here, even if I'm trying to stay un-addicted.
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1:18pm CST, still holding at 40%.
Way to Keep Flyin', Browncoats!
BoomerGoodheart
"I love my Captain."
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Quote:
Originally posted by Starrbaby:
The trailers will be aired soon. I heard something about 2 weeks before the opening.
That sounds about right. The trailers for Corpse Bride seem to be everywhere at the moment and it's wide release is in 2 weeks. That could be partially why it's doing so well compared to the others - Just Like Heaven and Flightplan are the only others with tv spots at the moment. And they also open earlier.
Oh, and we're still holding at 40%, with 3950 total responses.
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it is upsetting that people are cheating! i have personally only voted once
we are now at 41%
this does seem to be another one of the moments were i wud be worried if i weren't a browncoat, cos we can do practically anything, we have more power than one would presume!
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I only voted once.
I never cheat.
Except one time. On a french test.
It was worth it. 
PsychicRiver
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Quote:
Originally posted by PsychicRiver:
I never cheat.
Except one time. On a french test.
PsychicRiver
Me too. Once.
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On an ethics test.

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Wow 42. The ultimate answer to the ultimate question about life, the universe and everthing. This has to be a good sign.
We got you partially surrounded.
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I only vote once too, unless there are 2 movies I like on the list. Then I vote for both. If it is not an option to pick more than one, than I will vote once for each separately.
"An Unfinished Life" 2%
"Doom" 4%
"Elizabethtown" 6%
"FlightPlan" 5%
"In Her Shoes" 1%
"Just Like Heaven" 8%
"Legend of Zorro" 6%
"Serenity" 42%
"Shopgirl" 1%
Tim Burton's "Corpse Bride" 25%
Where is The Chronicles of Narnia????
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I just voted too! It still says 42%
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Originally posted by TheDuke:
it is upsetting that people are cheating! i have personally only voted once...
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T'aint cheating; a non-scientific poll of this type is the equivalent of a battle-of-the-bands decided by who gets the most applause. It isn't cheating to clap louder or longer -- or in this case, more often than most.
What this poll is designed to measure isn't the percentage of the MSN readership that prefer one upcoming film over another -- it's designed to measure enthusiasm based on how much noise the audience can generate.
Say it loud--I'm Browncoat and I'm proud! 
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Originally posted by PsychicRiver:
I never cheat.
Except one time. On a french test.
PsychicRiver
Me too. Once.
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On an ethics test.
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I cheated once, on a metaphysics exam. I looked within the soul of the boy sitting next to me...
"Merely corroborative detail intended to lend artistic verisimilitude to an otherwise bald and unconvincing narrative." -- Pooh-Bah of Tittipu
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Originally posted by RocketJock:
T'aint cheating; a non-scientific poll of this type is the equivalent of a battle-of-the-bands decided by who gets the most applause. It isn't cheating to clap louder or longer -- or in this case, more often than most.
What this poll is designed to measure isn't the percentage of the MSN readership that prefer one upcoming film over another -- it's designed to measure enthusiasm based on how much noise the audience can generate.
I don't agree that it isn't cheating. However, your argument has been the only one to hold any water in the "is cheating okay" debate. Arguments such as, "It's okay to cheat because we'll benifit from it," were juvanille and shameful.
Like I said, I don't agree with you, but I'm glad you actually made a point that didn't boil down to the idea that anything is okay as long as it is self serving.
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I never said cheatin' was right--just said that this particular bit o' popular leverage wasn't cheating. Thank you for the implied complement though. Still, the ethics of cheating are a separate issue.
But if you still feel repeat voting is wrong, feel free to not vote. Don't worry, I'll pick up your slack. 

"You can't enslave a free man. The most you can do is kill him." -- Robert A. Heinlein
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I didn't mean that you thought cheating was right. I'm sorry I came across that way. I figured you meant that repeat voting in this case WAS NOT cheating. I was annoyed with those who agreed it was cheating but justified it.
Doesn't matter anyway . . .Serenity is winning! 
I wish I could vote for more than one . . .I happen to also be a big TB fan. *Ducks to avoid flying objects*
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Whoa, were down to 29% now...
May have been on the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.
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Looks like a couple of dedicated Zorro fans (wait, those exist?) flooded the poll, and now Zorro 2: Electric Boogaloo is in first place with 25% of the vote, and Serenity is at 23%.
"Go Buckeyes!" -- God
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23%... I wouldn't mind being beaten by Tim Burton, but to be ranked lower than Zorro is just plain insulting. *blinks*
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wow, were at 37% yesterday with corpse bride at a close second. Zorro came out of nowhere.
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Somebody rigged a bot. It's the only way the poll doubled votes overnight, and every single one of them went to Zorro.
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Man, aren't those fandoms that stoop to cheating on a poll annoying? They ruin the fun so that we don't know for sure what movie is really the most anticipated.
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Dang, how did we get to this sorry state?
An Unfinished Life: 4%
Elizabethtown: 9%
In Her Shoes: 2%
Legend of Zoro: 32%
Shopgirl: 1%
Doom: 6%
Flight Plan: 8%
Just Like Heaven: 9%
Serenity: 14%
Corpse Bride: 16%
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