FIREFLY ON FOX NEWS!!!!

POSTED BY: mbw555
UPDATED: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 07:32
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MBW555

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 4:41 PM

According to thefutoncritic.com Firefly has been put on the midseason schedule for next season.

FIREFLY FLIES AGAIN!!!!!

GAEBOLGA

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 4:42 PM

Links, man! I demand links!

- Fear the badger, for it is mighty!

SARAHETC

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 4:45 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by mbw555:
According to thefutoncritic.com Firefly has been put on the midseason schedule for next season.

FIREFLY FLIES AGAIN!!!!!

If you're trolling...

I'm a dying breed who still believes, haunted by American dreams. ---Neko Case

MBW555

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 4:46 PM

thefutoncritic.com then go to firefly page.

GAEBOLGA

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 4:47 PM

If he is, defenestration's too good for him...

- Fear the badger, for it is mighty!

MBW555

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 4:48 PM

Hey the website is THEFUTONCRITIC.COM

GAEBOLGA

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 4:51 PM

MBW555, I went to the website and looked at the Firefly page...I can't find the article you're talking about. Perhaps I'm a little blind....

- Fear the badger, for it is mighty!

CYRIDEL

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 4:52 PM

Um, yeah. Got the website name. Still not finding any info on what you claim. Sure this isn't just a way to get the site some hits? Otherwise, give us a real link.

CYRIDEL

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 4:53 PM

Hmm, also notice how this person became a member a whole 2 minutes before posting this. Most likely a troll. I'll be in my bunk...crying. Somebody yell if there's some good news.

SARAHETC

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 4:58 PM

I agree. No network. Troll.

I hope fire ants eat his or her genitals.

Sarah

I'm a dying breed who still believes, haunted by American dreams. ---Neko Case

JAMIE

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 5:07 PM

Nope, nothing posted on their Firefly page since March 31st.

Besides, why would the thread be called Firefly on Fox news if the story's on The Futon Critic?

GAEBOLGA

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 5:07 PM

I recommend liquid nitrogen to the nipples. Works for either gender....

- Fear the badger, for it is mighty!

BRTICK

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 5:22 PM

well f*ck. thats a crappy thing to do.

Keep Flying!

CHANNAIN

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 6:45 PM

pretty damn mean, if you ask me.

"I'm still flyin'...that's enough." ~ Mal

INVISIBLEGREEN

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 9:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jamie:
Besides, why would the thread be called Firefly on Fox news if the story's on The Futon Critic?

Because it's news (although apparently not really) about "Firefly" being on FOX.

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To cancel a show before midseason and then make it a midseason repl. the next year (with either newly or previously produced eps.) is probably an unpredented senario. Does any one know a case where this did happen?

I believe "For Your Love" was cancelled at the end of a season, but then it came back the next year midseason, but that would be significantly different since it wasn't cancelled before midseason.

While there is a possibility that what this guy claims as true, it is a truckload of salt possibility.

CHRISTHECYNIC

Wednesday, May 14, 2003 10:36 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Gaebolga:
If he is, defenestration's too good for him...

- Fear the badger, for it is mighty!

True, god thats a fun word "defenestration."

Mayhaps defenestration such that the landing is on razor blades.

LERXST

Thursday, May 15, 2003 12:07 AM

Fargin' bastage needs to be lowered into a vat of acid. A quarter of an inch at a time.

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Raspberry! Only one man would dare give me the raspberry...LONESTAR!!

SARAHETC

Thursday, May 15, 2003 1:54 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by christhecynic:
Quote:
Originally posted by Gaebolga:
If he is, defenestration's too good for him...

- Fear the badger, for it is mighty!

True, god thats a fun word "defenestration."

Mayhaps defenestration such that the landing is on razor blades.

Let's bring it home: defenestrated onto razor blades AND fire ants

Sarah

I'm a dying breed who still believes, haunted by American dreams. ---Neko Case

LERXST

Thursday, May 15, 2003 2:13 AM

Make him clean all of the bathrooms in Grand Central Station. With his tongue.

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Raspberry! Only one man would dare give me the raspberry...LONESTAR!!

STRINGSLINGER

Thursday, May 15, 2003 3:57 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Lerxst:

Make him clean all of the bathrooms in Grand Central Station. With his tongue.

We could just rip his heart right out of his ribcage with our bare hands then throw it on the floor and stomp on it until he dies. Just a thought.

Yes, the pronouns are all messed up. Deal with it.

CAPTBAGGYTROUSERS

Thursday, May 15, 2003 5:08 AM

I'm trapped all alone in the gas station of love and I have to use the self-service pump...

Not unlike Mal Reynolds in "Out of Gas."

Just trying to steer things back to Serenity.

LERXST

Thursday, May 15, 2003 5:54 AM

Hee hee. Shiny! I wuz wonderin' if there were any other Weird Al fans out there.

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Raspberry! Only one man would dare give me the raspberry...LONESTAR!!

STRINGSLINGER

Thursday, May 15, 2003 5:57 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by CaptBaggytrousers:
I'm trapped all alone in the gas station of love and I have to use the self-service pump...

Not unlike Mal Reynolds in "Out of Gas."

Just trying to steer things back to Serenity.

Not unlike Mal Reynolds in Our Mrs. Reynolds, either.

Keep flying.

LOSTANGEL

Thursday, May 15, 2003 1:12 PM

Frankly, I think the best thing for him is to be left alone in a room full of FF fans with the sign "The Cap'n is a wuss" taped to his chest. Or better yet, the sign "Joss sux!". THEN we'll gather up what's left of him and tell him no hard feelings cause we are civilized people after all.

(sorry, I keep thinking about that die hard movie where BW wears the racist sign in Harlem)

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Lost Angel

WASH: Psychic, though? That sounds like something out of science fiction.
ZOE: We live in a space ship, dear.
WASH: So?

MATWANG

Thursday, May 15, 2003 1:53 PM

Yes, I'm afraid it's a troll indeed.

A quick search on news.google.com (+fox +firefly) brought up no such news....anywhere.

There was one interesting discussion of Fox, and a poignant Firefly lament worth noting:

Quote:
Of course, a few genuinely good, innovative shows slip through their cracks and get on television every year. But with the odds so stacked against them, who wants to get hooked by a new show, only to be heartbroken when it gets canceled six weeks later? I do it every year -- this year's dalliance was with "Firefly," a smart, sexy and funny science fiction/Western hybrid from "Buffy, The Vampire Slayer" creator Joss Whedon. Fox sent him a cancellation notice as a Christmas present.

"Firefly" actually took me an episode or two to get into, which is another reason why patience would be a virtue for network executives. If the average show needs time to build an audience, really quality shows need it even more, since the things that make them good are also things that many viewers need a little time to acclimate themselves to.

source: http://www.madison.com/captimes/features/stories/48720.php

Before I forget: "ditto" all previously outlined Troll Treatment

KAYTHRYN

Thursday, May 15, 2003 2:08 PM

Maybe we could rent one of those precious electric chest zapper thingies from Niska to use on our local troll.

Ah, how the thoughts of torture bring us together. We are bad men.

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It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
Aristotle

GAEBOLGA

Thursday, May 15, 2003 2:28 PM

We could tattoo "I will not cruelly taunt Firefly fans by spreading lies that raise their eternally forlorn hopes of once again seeing Serenity soar through the black just to get a few more hits on my crappy-assed website since it can't generate enough interest on its own merits, primarily because idiots like me are affiliated with it" on each of his/er eyeballs.

In red ink.

With a glow-in-the-dark outline.

In Kanji.

Backwards.

- Fear the badger, for it is mighty!

SARAHETC

Thursday, May 15, 2003 2:45 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Lerxst:
Hee hee. Shiny! I wuz wonderin' if there were any other Weird Al fans out there.

Oh heck yeah. New album on the 20th!

One of the many, many reasons I married my husband was cos he had "Even Worse" on vinyl.

Now I have to go get a cup of coffee with a carcinogenic sweetner and just one more jelly donut!

And if you can't hijack a troll thread, which thread can you hijack?!

Sarah

I'm a dying breed who still believes, haunted by American dreams. ---Neko Case

ZEKE023

Thursday, May 15, 2003 2:54 PM

His website (listed above) is kind of interesting. If you go to the section that lists ratings ---

you will find that Firefly had better ratings than Buffy, Angel, Charmed, Dawson's creek, and pretty much everything else on the smaller networks except for Smallville. It only had bad ratings compared to reality shows.

Kind of interesting.

-Zeke

SARAHETC

Thursday, May 15, 2003 3:00 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by zeke023:
His website (listed above) is kind of interesting. If you go to the section that lists ratings ---

you will find that Firefly had better ratings than Buffy, Angel, Charmed, Dawson's creek, and pretty much everything else on the smaller networks except for Smallville. It only had bad ratings compared to reality shows.

Kind of interesting.

-Zeke

Very. I got to looking at that yesterday and really wondered again if Fox didn't have it in for the show, or Whedon, or something.

One other thing: I don't think this troll is in any way affiliated with The Futon Critic. They're a pretty reliable site. That twerp just gave us something we'd hit immediately.

Sarah

I'm a dying breed who still believes, haunted by American dreams. ---Neko Case

INVISIBLEGREEN

Thursday, May 15, 2003 5:49 PM

I jsut read on Zap2It that "Firefly" has now been completely dropped: meaning US fans won't get the 3 unaired eps (Until the DVDs) and that "mid-season" replacement crap can now be confirmed as crap.

HOTFORKAYLEE

Thursday, May 15, 2003 6:26 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by InvisibleGreen:
I jsut read on Zap2It that "Firefly" has now been completely dropped: meaning US fans won't get the 3 unaired eps (Until the DVDs) and that "mid-season" replacement crap can now be confirmed as crap.

Not to be a dick, I believe this story more than the other but I searched all over zap2it and could not find anything on this. Do you have a link perhaps? All I could find was " The fall schedule sounds the final death knell for such shows as "Andy Richter Controls the Universe," "Fastlane," "John Doe," "The Pitts," "Firefly" and "girls club."" Nothing about not airing the remaining three. We already knew it wasn't coming back on the fall schedule but they still might show the last 3 this summer.

Quote:
"Look, if they want to play games, well fine. We can play games too, only we can play them better, because we have the truth on our side. You can't kill the truth. .. Actually, you can kill the truth, but it always comes back to haunt you later."

CHRISTHECYNIC

Thursday, May 15, 2003 8:03 PM

I just thought about what an insainly large amount of money you could make by creating an exact replica of the Serenity sets and charging people for tours, and to stay in it a night or two in one of the bedrooms. You could have who gets the room be done by highest bid on an ebay like thing. Then when (if) it started to lose it's novelty you sell the whole thing to a rich sci fi fan (they're all over the place) to add onto his her house.

Admitedly it's not really insanely large, but still it would be a nice second income.

FRV

Thursday, May 15, 2003 10:24 PM

I am guessing NOT a troll, but someone who got Firefly confused with Wonder Falls. Perhaps it was the mention of Tim Minnear's new show that got this person a bit turned about.

TALRIUS

Friday, May 16, 2003 1:13 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by HotForKaylee:
The fall schedule sounds the final death knell for such shows as "Andy Richter Controls the Universe," "Fastlane," "John Doe," "The Pitts," "Firefly" and "girls club."

Fastlane?! (Does crazy happy dance.) Tell me it's true.

God I hate that show. Glad to see it go.

Question. Does Fox even have a schedule this fall?

Quote:
We already knew it wasn't coming back on the fall schedule but they still might show the last 3 this summer.

I think Fox airing those eps is a sign of the end of the world.

And for the troll.

Shoot him slowly while he suffocates from the rope.

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DOBSON: I'm supposed to be meeting my wife's sister. I've only got a few days to see her...

ZOE: I wish there was another way...

DOBSON: Oh, no, no. That woman is like a dragon. I mean, I believe she has a tail. If there's any other moons we need to visit, or if we could just
fly very slowly...

LOSTANGEL

Monday, May 19, 2003 10:07 PM

Yes, we are a mean, evil bunch. But only in self dense! We're really nice shiny people (OK everyone, that old REM song with the chick from the B-52s)shiny happy people holding hands!

but when you play with us like that, you're gonna get squashed!

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Lost Angel

WASH: Psychic, though? That sounds like something out of science fiction.
ZOE: We live in a space ship, dear.
WASH: So?

SARAHETC

Monday, May 19, 2003 11:06 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by lostangel:
Yes, we are a mean, evil bunch. But only in self dense! We're really nice shiny people (OK everyone, that old REM song with the chick from the B-52s)shiny happy people holding hands!

but when you play with us like that, you're gonna get squashed!

And I quote Dennis Leary:
"Like REM: 'Shiny, happy people....' Just pull that bus over to the side of the Pretentiousness Turnpike, pal! I want everybody off the bus! I want the shiny people over here, and the happy people over here, okay?!? I represent angry, gun-toting, meat-eating fucking people, alright?!?"

I am one Browncoat who still gets angry.

Even if she did 'get Firefly made' and whatnot, I might still be forced to say unkind things about Gail Berman's lineage if presented with the opportunity.

Sarah

I'm a dying breed who still believes, haunted by American dreams. ---Neko Case

CHRISTHECYNIC

Monday, May 19, 2003 11:43 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Talrius:
I think Fox airing those eps is a sign of the end of the world.

So? I'm up for that, we can sit on my roof with Coca Cola in hand, watching the fire and brimstone rain down (under some nice big hard overhanging shield of some kind so it doesn't fall on us) while watching the last three eps on a TV too big to fit inside my house (could blow all my money on the TV because I wouldn't have to save for anything, the world ending and all.) And after it is over, according to most apocalypses, stuff gets better, which says to me that war, hunger, and suffering end at the same time that Firefly is picked up by the post apocalyptic networks.

TALRIUS

Monday, May 19, 2003 11:49 PM

You can count me in.

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DOBSON: I'm supposed to be meeting my wife's sister. I've only got a few days to see her...

ZOE: I wish there was another way...

DOBSON: Oh, no, no. That woman is like a dragon. I mean, I believe she has a tail. If there's any other moons we need to visit, or if we could just fly very slowly...

CHRISTHECYNIC

Tuesday, May 20, 2003 1:58 AM

Just everyone bring there own soda/alcohol/water/fruit punch/other beverage if it’s gona be the end of the world I can’t be bothered to get drinks for everyone.

ELERI

Tuesday, May 20, 2003 4:29 AM

http://www.thefutoncritic.com/cgi/gofuton.cgi?action=newswire&id=5960

is the actual article on Futoncritic. It does NOT say that "Firefly" has been added as a mid-season replacement. At the bottom of the page, it has a paragraph that says what has been made for mid-season, then following is (and I quote!):

-- On the midseason front, "Wonderfalls" (which was originally eyed for an August start) will take over for "Joe Millionaire" in January. "Still Life" is expected to land a Thursday slot while "Banzai" will get a limited run this summer before appearing some time during midseason.

"-- Formally getting the axe/ending this season were: "Andy Richter Controls the Universe," "Fastlane," "Firefly," "Futurama," "Girls Club," "The Grubbs," "John Doe," "Married by America," "Mr. Personality," "The Pitts" and "Septuplets." "

~~Eleri

JTALLE

Tuesday, May 20, 2003 7:32 AM

Actually, Joss was interviewed for the NY Times. See #8 for a Firefly quote

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/16/readersopinions/16WHED.html?pagewant
ed=3&th

10 QUESTIONS FOR .... Joss Whedon

As the seven-year run of "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" comes to a close, creator Joss Whedon shares his thoughts about redemption, the soul and other frivolous matters.

Q. 1. What are your thoughts on the academic community's use of the show, from the humanities to the sciences, to debate and analyze everything?

A. I think it’s great that the academic community has taken an interest in the show. I think it’s always important for academics to study popular culture, even if the thing they are studying is idiotic. If it’s successful or made a dent in culture, then it is worthy of study to find out why.

"Buffy," on the other hand is, I hope, not idiotic. We think very carefully about what we’re trying to say emotionally, politically, and even philosophically while we’re writing it. The process of breaking a story involves the writers and myself, so a lot of different influences, prejudices, and ideas get rolled up into it. So it really is, apart from being a big pop culture phenom, something that is deeply layered textually episode by episode. I do believe that there is plenty to study and there are plenty of things going on in it, as there are in me that I am completely unaware of. People used to laugh that academics would study Disney movies. There’s nothing more important for academics to study, because they shape the minds of our children possibly more than any single thing. So, like that, I think "Buffy" should be analyzed, broken down, and possibly banned.

Q. 2. Is there anything on any show you wanted to do, but couldn't, because the budget or network TV standards wouldn't allow it?

A. I’ve always fought the budget fight, but I found early on the less money you have the more you have to fall back on good story telling, so it’s never been a terrible problem. We’ve never been able to have (with the exception of John Ritter) any particularly notable guest stars. We’re not one of those shows that’s such a big hit that everyone wants to be on it, and we never had enough money to have anyone really famous. Every now and then we sort of wished we would, but we don’t really tell stories that way so that wasn’t a big deal either.

The only thing that we’ve ever actually been stopped or asked to stop doing was the fast food run. When Buffy worked at the fast food joint it made the advertisers very twitchy. So apparently the most controversial thing we ever had on Buffy was a hamburger and chicken sandwich.

Q. 3. Are there any plot twists or character developments (characters leaving the show, going from evil to good or vice versa) that you look back on and wish you could alter, somehow?

A. There aren’t a lot of twists that I wanted to throw out there. After seven years you’ve pretty much used a bunch of them up, and then you start twisting just to twist again (like we did last summer). You’re not really telling mythic stories, you’re just trying to surprise people and it sort of becomes fake.

However, there are a couple of things I would’ve liked to have seen a little more of; either Vampire or Hyena Xander, because Nick pulls that off really well. And I wish we had been able to service Dawn’s character a little bit more in her third season. I really wanted to paint her with a lot of different colors, but we got wrapped up in the big slayer story and the whole arc of the season, so I think she got a little bit gypped.

Q. 4. Buffy's father and his absence are important thematically in the first season. How did he go from being a somewhat neglectful, newly-divorced father in Season One to a total deadbeat? Did he fade out to clear the way for Giles as a father figure? Did you ever consider taking the Joyce/Giles pairing farther than it went?

A. It’s true that Buffy’s father started out as just a divorced dad and then turned into this sort of "evil pariah" figure of not even bothering to show up, a