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Wednesday, January 4, 2006 3:39 PM

What is your TOP most fav moment on the show/movie. If you had to pick ONLY one look, or line, or moment. What would yours be?


Me being a romantic would pick the moment in the movie where Mal and Inara are talking and he tells her she fogs things up and stuff. I need watch it to get the full line there but he says he wishes like h*ll she was someplace eles, right after he went to get her. I guessed it was as close to him admiting he might love her....

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Inara: Honestly, Mal, if we can't be civilized and talk like --
Mal: I'm plenty civilized. You're using wiles on me.
Inara: I'm using what?
Mal: Your feminine wiles. Your companion training, your some-might-say uncanny ability to make a man sweaty and/or compliant, of which I have had just about enough today.

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Wednesday, January 4, 2006 4:00 PM

There are so MANY good moments in both, but I think my TOP fav is still the end of OOG when, just before he drifts to sleep, Mal asks, "Y'all gonna be here when I wake up?" That gets me every time! Our hard-nosed, bad ass, don't need nobody, Captain making sure he won't be alone when he wakes up! AWWW!


"I love my captain."

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Wednesday, January 4, 2006 4:01 PM

It's almost impossible to pick just one... but if you put a gun to me, I'd say it's the scene between Simon and River after he's shot in the BDM, starting with "River, I'm sorry," and ending with "My turn." Just totally gut-wrenching, until that last line... which changes everything forever.

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Ain't about you, Jayne. It's about what they need.

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Wednesday, January 4, 2006 4:04 PM

That is my sister's fav part. She has 'My Turn' on her note book she uses in school.

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Inara: Honestly, Mal, if we can't be civilized and talk like --
Mal: I'm plenty civilized. You're using wiles on me.
Inara: I'm using what?
Mal: Your feminine wiles. Your companion training, your some-might-say uncanny ability to make a man sweaty and/or compliant, of which I have had just about enough today.

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Wednesday, January 4, 2006 4:28 PM

While this is almost impossible to do, I believe I would have to say, the look River gives Simon after he asks her is he is speaking to Miranda now. I love that look, makes me crack up everytime.

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Wednesday, January 4, 2006 4:31 PM

Well, now that i've seen the series so many times its even harder to choose.

I really cant pick one. But just to continue the thread and mention one;

The scene in "objects in space" when river stands in this weirds pose in the cargo room listening to the crew. Music, dialoge etc.. Stunning.

Its scenes like that i will miss if they ever make more (seeing as river is more or less sane now).

Jayne: All those years of preacher training, getting knocked out by one bounty hunter
Book: Oh, dont get me wrong. I gave him a hell of a fight
Jayne: Epic i'm guessing

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Wednesday, January 4, 2006 4:52 PM

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Originally posted by Lvs2read:
There are so MANY good moments in both, but I think my TOP fav is still the end of OOG when, just before he drifts to sleep, Mal asks, "Y'all gonna be here when I wake up?" That gets me every time! Our hard-nosed, bad ass, don't need nobody, Captain making sure he won't be alone when he wakes up! AWWW!



For me it's right after this scene, the last flashback, the look on Mal's face as he sees her across the used spaceship lot.


Tell you what, you buy this ship, treat her proper,
she'll be with ya for the rest of your life.

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Wednesday, January 4, 2006 5:02 PM

For a series so well written, it's difficult.

The "My turn" bit from the movie (as mentioned above) certainly ranks at (or near) the top of any list. But, for sheer comical value, I loved River's: "Jayne's a girl's name." I also liked her: "I can kill you with my brain."

River, Mal, Jayne & Wash literally flood each episode with gems of dialogue. It's way too difficult to pick just one.

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Wednesday, January 4, 2006 5:03 PM

For me it's the scene at the end of the BDM where Mal is talking to River as she pilots the ship through the rain, topped with another piece commin' off Serenity. Just beautiful dialogue and music; I cry every time (y'know, bitty little man-like tears, ahem).

Chrisisall, missing his primary buffy panel

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Wednesday, January 4, 2006 5:03 PM


HEY! It just double-posted this!!!

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Wednesday, January 4, 2006 5:10 PM

I havent seen all the TV episodes yet but one of my favorite moments is on the "Our Own Mrs. Reynolds" episode. After the fake bride sets the ship on course to get fried and has successfully tricked Malcom into kissing her, which makes him pass out from the poion on her lips. Inara finds her out and rushes to find Mal who is unconscious in his bunk and she kisses him and gets knocked out too. At the very end of the episode Mal is in Inara's shuttle and confronts her about "tripping" and knocking herself out, since that's what she told everyone that's what had happened. There standing face to face and he asks her if she really triped and knocked herself out, it seems like she is just about to confess what she really did when Mal blurts out, "You kissed her! I knew it", and walks off.
I couldnt stop laughing what a classic moment, and it shows how Mal and Inara's relationship works so well.

Chuck Norris Doesnt Sleep He Waits

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Wednesday, January 4, 2006 5:15 PM

When Serenity does a hard burn in atmo,
Jayne gives a rebel yell. It sums what
the whole crew is feeling at that moment.

Gedeon

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Wednesday, January 4, 2006 5:20 PM

I love firefly and the touchy feely moments do get me but I love Joss's comedy style and the timing of the cast. That being said I think my favorite moment would be the sequence in OIS about River being a "witch":

Mal: "But she does have an oddness to her.
And I ain't just talking about her proficiency with firearms. Girl knows things. Things she shouldn't. Things she couldn't."

Jayne : "Wha-...are you-are you sayin' she's a witch?"

Wash: "Yes, Jayne. She's a witch. She has had congress with the beast."

Jayne: "She's in Congress?"

Wash: "How did your brain even learn human speech? I'm just so curious."

I literally laughed out loud when I saw this exchange, and its rare that I do that watching a TV show alone in my room. But firefly has done that to me on various occasions so all in all I think this moment was my favorite.

-Dan

Ain't that just shiny?

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Wednesday, January 4, 2006 5:38 PM

They isn't hardly a scene/moment I DON'T love.. but if I HAD to choose one.. It would be the end of Shindig where Inara offers to sacrafice herself to save Mal's life. I don't believe it was a distraction tactic.. I believe she really did mean to sacrafice her future if it would save Mal's life. I am suprised that Mal made no mention of it and question Inara of it later.

But that moment... and Athertan's threat to Inara would have to be my favorite scene, because it's more than JUST what the scene was itself.. but what I can see from it possibly at a future point.. a tragic but beautiful way to eventually bring Mal and Inara together.

Smaug..

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Wednesday, January 4, 2006 6:04 PM

Well my favorite part in the show was in "War Stories" when River takes the gun from Kaylee and shoots the bad guys.

My favorite part in the movie is, of course, the "My turn" part. Gets you all misty-eyed. Just awesome.

Mal would kick Han Solo's ass.

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Wednesday, January 4, 2006 6:17 PM

Oh how evil to just ask for ONE. Oh man, I really tried to give this some thought and if I can pick ONLY ONE moment (moment being a short span of time) then I'll have to say the My Turn speech. "Yall gonna be here when I wake up" was a close second. And I was tempted to say drunk Simon and Kaylee in Jaynestown but all the emotion packed into the MY TURN moment just pulls my heart right out of my chest.

PS *mutters* can't believe...only one...geez

"See this is another sign of your tragic space dementia, all paranoid and crochety. Breaks the heart." -Mal

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Wednesday, January 4, 2006 6:20 PM

No contest. (Surprisingly, perhaps).

Heart Of Gold, the morning after. Inara in tears. There's a moment where she almost, almost, pulls herself together, and then loses it again.

Morena Baccarin can ACT.

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Wednesday, January 4, 2006 6:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FLEETFOOTMIKE:
No contest. (Surprisingly, perhaps).

Heart Of Gold, the morning after. Inara in tears. There's a moment where she almost, almost, pulls herself together, and then loses it again.

Morena Baccarin can ACT.



Maybe I'll peek back in with an overall favorite moment, but I had to respond to this with a resounding, "Yes she can!"

It's certain that my favorite Inara moment also comes in Heart of Gold. It's just after Nandie is killed and Mal bursts in the room. Inara looks up at him and her face slowly transforms from sadness and mourning to, "Make him pay." Perfection. Sheer perfection.

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DRE
Wednesday, January 4, 2006 6:37 PM

In the movie, my absolute favourite -look- is when the Op sneaks past Universe's dead body, and Lenore says "Mal."

The look on the Operative's face when he turns around. That gleam in his eyes when she says, "Guy killed me Mal."

Hysterical. Something so subtle about it. Heheh.

It's not my top for the series, nor is my favourite -scene- from the movie.
But as for physical acting, I love it.


IKIYO.
DRE

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Wednesday, January 4, 2006 7:21 PM

my favorite moment in the movie is in jaynestown:

jayne's line:

now let's get away from this eerie-ass statue and continue with our increasingly eerie-ass day

and jayne's clear discomfort being completely and utterly ignored by the rest of the crew, who are still staring at the statue of him

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Wednesday, January 4, 2006 7:45 PM

Humm.... Can I choose one from the movie and one from the series? Is that allowed. I don't care, I'm going to do it anyway.
Probably my favorite scene from the series is one that has already been posted (Danielfyre already posted it). Here it is:

Mal: "But she does have an oddness to her.
And I ain't just talking about her proficiency with firearms. Girl knows things. Things she shouldn't. Things she couldn't."

Jayne : "Wha-...are you-are you sayin' she's a witch?"

Wash: "Yes, Jayne. She's a witch. She has had congress with the beast."

Jayne: "She's in Congress?"

Wash: "How did your brain even learn human speech? I'm just so curious."

My favorite scene from the movie? I have two that tie. The first is when the crew is just getting off Serenity and they're in the bar. Mal is about to go and finish the deal with Fanty and Mingo and Kaylee is complainig to him.

Kaylee: "I haven't had anything 'twixt my nethers weren't run on batteries goin' on a year now"

Mal: "Oh, GOD! I can't know that!"

Jayne: "I could stand here a little longer."

My other favorite one is also another Kaylee moment. When Jayne, Zoe, Inara, Simon, Kaylee and River are all bunkered infront of the blast doors preparing to fight the Reevers. Simon tells Kaylee that he regrets not being with her. Her response is classic:

Kaylee: "You mean, like sex? Forget this! I'm gonna live!"

Wacky fun!

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Wednesday, January 4, 2006 7:49 PM

I would have to sayfrom the movi and it would be when Kaylee says "hell with this im gonna live."

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Wednesday, January 4, 2006 7:51 PM

That is a very hard question to answer.

I like the 'Crazy Ivan' in the pilot. Kaylee's 'You are a nice man, Captain' scene in Pilot. Through the window bar brawl 'We'll rise again' and 'blow a hole in this little moon' scene in 'The Train Job'. The torture scene in 'War Stories' is very good. 'Y'all gonna be here when I wake up in 'Out of Gas', very emotional scene. Everybody mesmerized by Jayne's statue in 'Jaynestown', very funny. In BDM the first shot of Serenity and the cockpit scene with Wash and Mal, very funny. The scene where Mals says 'This is what I do darlin' to River and then they board the Mule.

OK If I have to pick 1 it's 'Y'all gonna be here when I wake up in' OoG. Only coz its my favourite episode.

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Wednesday, January 4, 2006 7:52 PM

Mal walking through Serenity alone in OoG, closing all the doors behind him and then getting out the blanket and wrapping it around himself. It's beautifully done, especially with that piece of music.

--- Banging your head against a wall uses 150 calories an hour.

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Wednesday, January 4, 2006 7:59 PM

The line that always makes me laugh is one of Jayne's, from the "Shindig" episode. The scene is Badger's little 'office/hideout' space, and he's serving them drinks, and they're conversing. Badger begins the little line of dialogue like this:

Badger: Had a problem with your attitude is why. Felt you was--what's the word?

Jayne: Pretentious?

Badger: Exactly.

The little face motion he does when he says the line and the look Mal gives him afterwards just kills me every time.

"Serenity is knowing your worst shot is still pretty good."

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Wednesday, January 4, 2006 8:00 PM

as for fave line its gotta b
"U know what the chain of command is? It a big chain i go and get and beat u with untill u understand whos in charge here"
mainly cause its so hilerious and cause thts exactly wot Jayne would do if he were in charge.

I aint got a fave scene but the scenes in the film where River takes on the bar and the reavers are awsome cause i was waitin for that all thru fire fly and we onli got to see a glimpse during War Stories.

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"Arson, that little guy loved fire"

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Wednesday, January 4, 2006 8:02 PM

For a show that excelled at subtle, complex, and often profound moments I think (perhaps) the most subtle and most complex and most profound - and most true to character - moment was the end of Jaynestown.

Jayne's "why'd he have to go and do that" and "ain't a one o' them understood what they saw" lines (forgive the rough paraphrasing) are simplistic feelings on Jayne's part, but hint at him scratching the surface of a deeper world with deeper feelings than he's previously known.

Even after Mal explains it - "ain't about you, it's about what they need" - he's still in denial of sorts (trying to resist tapping into that deeper world - ignorance IS bliss) and says something to the effect of "don't make no damn sense."

It's a kind of blue-collar profoundness (is that a word? Profundity?) perfectly articulated.

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Wednesday, January 4, 2006 8:06 PM

Ok, this isn't the hardest question, but it's right up there with the time my little brother asked me why some people were always mean to him.
I have to say it's the moment in Out Of Gas, where Mal decides to send the crew off in the two shuttles, I almost cried to see the looks on their faces as they realised they might have to leave Serenity and it's captain for dead

The human body can be drained of blood in 8.6 seconds given adequate vacuuming systems.

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Wednesday, January 4, 2006 8:35 PM

In the series, I'd have to say in OIS when River gives her speach to Early about how she doesn't belong, is dangerous, etc. They cut to the crew and you can see that they finally realise that even though she is a bit crazy she still has felt how alone she is there.

The scene in the BDM that always cracks me up is when Kaylee and Simon start making out and move out of camera. Next thing you see is River looking out of the hatch down at them. I always wonder just how much of an eyeful she gets.

JerryT
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"I'll be in my bunk"

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Wednesday, January 4, 2006 8:36 PM

so many, and this probably isnt THE best, but its the best one I can think of right now.

At the end of Objects in Space when River asks Mal: "Permission to come aboard captian" and the look they exchange. I love it.

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Wednesday, January 4, 2006 8:46 PM

The incredulous, startled look on Wash's face as the townsfolk join in the chorus of "The Man They Call Jayne". Even people who have never seen it before lose it at that look.

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Wednesday, January 4, 2006 8:50 PM

For me, it's in Our Mrs. Reynolds when Jayne, being cocky and goofy like Jayne always is, says with confidence

"That's why I never kiss'em on the mouth".

That is my stock answer to any stupid question I ever get now. :-)

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Thursday, January 5, 2006 12:33 AM

Bushwhacked. Jayne's interrogation.

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Thursday, January 5, 2006 12:57 AM

Ooooh so tuff!!!

Okay the moment I choose just manages to beat out Mal's "Love" dialouge to River at the end of Serenity.

It's the moment near the end of OIS, when River tells Kaylee "I can do this. I can win this." Then her eyes frame the cracker jack ball just before she drops it, which the camera follows and then pans through the hull of Serenity out into space. There's some sweet Greg E. music going...and there's just something so satisfying in that moment it gives me chills.

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Thursday, January 5, 2006 1:00 AM

Everytime Simon(Sean Maher) decides to take his shirt off.

Jayne: Are you saying River's a witch?
Wash: Yes, Jayne, she's a witch. She's had congress with the Beast.
Jayne: She's in Congress?
Wash: How did your brain even learn human speech? I'm just so curious!

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Thursday, January 5, 2006 3:28 AM

Okay sorry If my answers are the same as someone else's I didn't read all of them. Anyways My favourite Moment, is when River is hugging Simon just as she gets out of the box. My favourite line is. . . hmm. . .That is hard. . . I think It would have to be on the pilot of the series,

Mal-We're still flying

Simon- That's not much

Mal- It's enough

Now I don't remember all that comes before that, and I know that I like other things better but I like that for now, Oh wait I also really like in the deleted scenes when River says, "We'll take care of eachother, I'll knit!" Hahahaha good times.

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Thursday, January 5, 2006 3:43 AM

Without a doubt my fav moment from the series is from Our Mrs. Renyolds. The look on Mal's face after Saffron offers to wash his feet is absolutely classic. Great timing on Nathan's part.

From the film, I love it all but the "hero shot", as Joss calls it in the commentary, where River stands atop the reavers, backlit by the blown out wall. It's so great, reminds me of great graphic novel art.

"You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought..."

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Thursday, January 5, 2006 3:45 AM

My favorite line from the whole series is still the one in my sig from 'Our Mrs. Reynolds'. I don't know why but the whole lead up to it cracks me up and I burst into serious laughter everytime Wash says "Okay! Everybody not talking about sex, in here. Everybody else, elsewhere."

In the BDM, it's probably the beginning of River's fight scene in the bar. When she's first triggered and the blue, dream-like light is cast over her. It was a great insight into her mental state at the time.

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Thursday, January 5, 2006 4:09 AM

My pick is a bit different -- it isn't actually part of the show. It's from the sneak preview introduction:


Joss Whedon: In Hollywood, people like that are called unrealistic, quixotic, obsessive. In my world, they're called 'Browncoats.

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Thursday, January 5, 2006 4:22 AM

Evilmike, that is indeed one beautiful beautiful moment. Many blessings to Joss!

For me, in the series, it's in "Safe" -
River :"You gave up everything to find me, and you found me broken."

It says everything about their relationship, right there. And it's echoed in the BDM when the Operative says, "It's Love, in point of fact."

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Thursday, January 5, 2006 4:32 AM

Jayne:
"Shepherd Book always said, if you can't do somethin' smart..."
(Takes swig from Blue Sun booze bottle)
"...Do somethin' right."
(Slides bottle to Simon--who accepts it!)

Just a wonderfuly subtle moment, on about a dozen levels...



"She's tore up plenty. But she'll fly true." -- Zoë Washburn

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Thursday, January 5, 2006 5:17 AM

OK, I'll give two. One from the show, and one from the BDM.

Firefly: I think the best scene has to be at the end of the pilot, when Book is talking with Inara. This works on so many levels. First of all, the fact that Book, a preacher, is essentially confessing his fears to a Companion really illustrates how turned around life is in the black. Secondly, Book's words reminded me so much of a scene from one of my favorite movies, The Last Temptation of Christ. When Book says, "I think I'm on the wrong ship.", and Inara replies, "Maybe. But maybe you are exactly where you should be." This is very reminiscent of the scene in Last Temptation where Jesus, speaking one of the first times in public, seems more frightened of saying the right thing, than the wrong one. The look on Book's face indicates he may not know which one is worse, being in the place he should be, or being somewhere he shouldn't.

Serenity: I think easily the best scene is the first time we get to see Serenity. Seriously, you can tell how much Joss loves this ship, this crew, and this story. The camera actually floats like like an artist's paint brush back and forth, from tip to tail and back. And that music, I love the music in that scene. I got a little choked up then, and still do now.

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Thursday, January 5, 2006 5:24 AM

My favorite line, or monologue, if you will. is the whole opening to serenity part one, when wash is playing with the toy dinosaurs on the console. That cracked me up. "Curse your sudden, but inevitable, betrayal!"

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Thursday, January 5, 2006 5:45 AM

I dearly love the bit in the BDM when Mal starts giving the orders to the crew to rig up Serenity for the big infiltration. It's a sign of the tactical smarts he picked up during the war, and like he told Inara, we're seeing something new. This isn't Mal the man trying to get by. This is Mal at war, and you know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that somebody is about to get seriously messed up.

Close second, (and this might just be indicative of my most recent episode viewings, as the 'verse is chock full of brilliance) is quite simply this:

"Looks like business isn't running so much as crawling away."

Oooh, boy. There is an all express ride on the pain train coming for you today, buddy.

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal, Fox!

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Thursday, January 5, 2006 5:56 AM

In "War Stories".

Wash: Bastards' not gonna get days.

It's just how he went from quivering to standing tall and piloting out of there because he knew he has gone through nothing like that Captian would be at that moment.

Along with that, when they get back to Serenity and Simon asks if Wash is alright and he just keeps walking by and says "I'm fine".

Watch how I soar indeed, Wash...indeed.

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Thursday, January 5, 2006 6:00 AM

The funeral at the end of "The Message."
It was my least favorite episode, but something about that bit just got to me. Maybe it was the fact that I knew that was the last part of Firefly they filmed, but it gets to me everytime.

Also have a thing for cool lighting and in BDM when River goes all bat shit on everyone in the Maidenhead. The blue light effect used in the start of that scene, makes my little theatre tech heart skip a beat.

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Jayne! Try not to steal too much of their shit.

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Thursday, January 5, 2006 6:19 AM

Not many people will agree with me but I really love the scenes in Firefly between Mal and Inara that aren't expositional (is that a word?). Scenes that just show how cool and snarky they can both be. They push each other and they love it..

In the teaser of "Heart of Gold" for instance when she grabs his gun and says (paraphrasing) that any low-born petty crook knows that the small firearms go to the far left of the place setting. How cool. He doesn't know whether to slap her or take her right there on the table. BWAH!

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Thursday, January 5, 2006 6:19 AM

accidentally update post twice- oh well- I'll have to give you numder 2: In BDM, definitely
: "But you fog things up. You always have- you spin me about. I wish like hell you were elsewhere."

sigh

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Thursday, January 5, 2006 6:33 AM

A lot of choices and a lot of fine picks so far. I love talkin' to you folks.

For me it is Mal's "Y'all gonna be here when I wake up?" line from Out of Gas. That whole episode makes me so happy and it is just a fantastic ending. Wonderful. If ever I'm feeling down, that episode always brings me up.
-e

"Storms getting worse."
"We'll pass through it soon enough."

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Thursday, January 5, 2006 10:54 PM

In Shindig where Mal stabs Atherton twice just because it was funny... lol.

Guy killed me, Mal. He killed me with a sword. How weird is that?

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Friday, January 6, 2006 2:56 AM

From the series, for me it was in Out of Gas when Mal says to Inara "Everybody dies alone." Man did he deliver that line! It get's me every time.

From the BDM, River's conversation with Simon while she's chained up on Serenity. She has just gone from kicking everyone's ass in that bar and here she shows that she really is just a young girl. Especially when she says (in response to Simon saying that something triggered this memory in her) "It isn't mine. The memory, it isn't mine and I shouldn't have to carry it." I just think Summer did the most tremendous job there.


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Saturday, January 7, 2006 2:28 AM

I know I've already posted my favorite scenes from the series and from the BDM, but I was up the other night thinking about it--I know I'm kind of pathetic--and I recognized the point in the movie where my confusion turned into interest.
Right after Mal talks to the Operative from Haven, he walks out and starts giving orders to his crew. He says:
Mal: There are many fine ways to die, and I aint' waitin' for the Alliance to choose mine.
He shoots the guy in the ship
I mean to confound these bungers. If I hear a word from any of you that ain't helpin' me out or taking your leave I will shoot you down.
I remember thinking,"gee, this guy really means business!" From then on I was in love. (I mean with the 'verse.) Haven't fallen out of it yet, and don't plan to.

Wacky fun!

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Saturday, January 7, 2006 2:56 AM

I would have to go with an earlier notion and say my favorite line out of all of 'em is when Mal wakes up in Out Of Gas and looks at the crew and says "yall gonna be here when I wake up?" For sure thats my favorite line. Call me a sap but i love that line.

"We have done the impossible that makes us mighty" Mal
Siklis Pakem Parabellum "If you want peace prepare for war" (Latin)

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Saturday, January 7, 2006 3:08 AM

I think this is one of the less recognized scenes, but i love the way Itflows, the not paying attention to Jayne( my fav character)

MAL In her room., which I'm thinking we
bolt from the outside from now on.

WASH That's a little extreme, isn't it?

JAYNE Anybody remember her coming at me
with a butcher's knife?

WASH (remembering fondly) Wacky fun...

JAYNE You wanna go, little man?

WASH Only if it's someplace with
candlelight.

ZOE Sir, I know she's unpredictable. But
I don't think she'd harm anyone.

JAYNE ("Hellooo...")
Butcher's knife...

ZOE Anyone we can t spare. I mean, far
as we know, the girl's never even
picked up a gun before.

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Saturday, January 7, 2006 3:13 AM

That was a great conversation. Another good one was in Out Of Gas when they flashback to Wash checking out the console when Zoe and Mal are talking,

Mal: great aint he

Zoe: I dont like him

Mal: what

Zoe: Just sumpin about hime bothers me

etc. that exchange is great considering they end up gettin married

"We have done the impossible that makes us mighty" Mal

Siklis Pakem Parabellum "If you want peace prepare for war" (Latin)

"Everybody dies alone"

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Saturday, January 7, 2006 6:32 AM

I LOVE the torture scene in War Stories. The way it goes from silliness to serious in 2 seconds flat.

The "Wash... Wash, LISTEN TO ME!" gets me still after, i'm going with hundreds of viewings

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Saturday, January 7, 2006 7:28 AM

Every episode is loaded with gems -- that's the brilliance of the series. For me it's the moment in "War Stories" when Wash has just been released from torture and he says (about Mal) "He's crazy!" (paraphrasing, he might say "insane"). And what he means is that Mal did everything he could to distract Wash from the torture, even if it meant getting him riled up about Zoe. To me, it's cool that Wash realizes that's what Mal was doing, and it reinforces some of Mal's seemingly "hard-assed" behavior in the previous "Out of Gas" episode where he basically threw Wash out of the sick bay while Zoe was on the table. Mal is better (and more focused) under pressure than any character I've seen. This notion is re-visited in the movie when he orders the crew to disguise Serenity as a reaver ship. (By the way, if you haven't seen the DVD yet, there's a brilliant goof of this scene in the outtakes).
I think this aspect of Mal is evident to most of us in the audience, but Wash's exclamation (part shock, part admiration) that the captain is "crazy" is a great moment of realization for that character.
I also love the scene in the pilot when Mal interrupts the stand-off in the cargo bay by walking on board and shooting the Alliance agent. That really set the tone of the show for me.

"I don't think of myself as a lion. You might as well, though. I have a mighty roar."

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Saturday, January 7, 2006 7:34 AM

The scene in OOG:

"Shephard Book, Kaylee, Jayne will ride with Inara in her shuttle. Doc, you and your sis ride with Wash and Zoe, seeing as Zoe still needs some doctoring"

"What about you?"

"Four people per shuttle. That's the arrangement. Evens the odds. I'm staying with Serenity."

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Saturday, January 7, 2006 8:18 AM

I love so many of the scenes all ready mentioned. The one that no one has, that stands out is that flashback to the war.

Zoe has just gotten done telling the green soldier that the way to succeed in combat is to stay quiet and become completely invisible. Then Mal busts in screaming his guts out and blasting away with everything he's got. She then says: Some people go a different way."


Scorpion Regent

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Saturday, January 7, 2006 8:45 AM

After River's laid down the smack
in the bar, back on the ship...

river: "They're afraid of me".
simon: "I'm sorry".
river: "They should be... but I'll show them,
oh, God!"
Heart rending. Kills my a55 every time.

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Saturday, January 7, 2006 9:40 AM

It is, indeed, incredibly hard to pick just one moment...

However, I can pick one from the film... while I do like the "my turn" line and the glorious shot of River backlit after the fight with the Reavers, I'd have to say my favorite moment from the movie is when Simon has just basically told Kaylee he's in love with her, she asks "You mean, like sex?" (adorable, very Joss-like way of undercutting the emotion, and just plain... well, adorable!) and he says "I guess I mean", (notice! Not stuffy grammar! He's changed from the *original* Serenity, hasn't he? ;) ) and then the funniest line EVER: "The hell with this, I'm gonna live!" It's Jewel's delivery - that sudden look of ADORABLE determination, the cocking of the gun - that makes it so utterly fantastic. I know, I wanted to pick something no one else had, but that one's, plain and simple, one of the damn funniest things I've ever SEEN. My dad and I were quoting that line like crazy at each other after we went to see the movie in the theater...

From the TV series, I like the part in I believe it's "Safe", where River is watching the dancers and then ends up joining them. It's the first time I can recall seeing her truly smile and be happy, and she's so pretty when she smiles! She's just having such a damn good time, which is such a change for her. God knows how far from home; experimented on cruelly by the government; with only her brother probably REALLY trusting her much; schizophrenic... but there, in that ONE MOMENT, she is truly happy, and life is worth living and loving.

Other "close seconds":

From Serenity:
MAL:"You wanna run this ship!?"
JAYNE: "Yes!"
MAL: *startled pause* "Well... you can't!"

RIVER: Time to go to sleep...
SIMON: "No, meimei... it's time to wake up." (Which episode was this, Ariel? I can't remember, but I saw it during the Friday SciFi marathon in the afternoon, I know that much)

Several from War Stories:

The scene where Zoe simply does not hestitate to choose Wash and says something like "You want me to choose, right? I'm sorry, do want to finish?"

The Shepard Book line about how (paraphrasing here) "I don't think you've shot anyone yet." line in response to Simon's "I don't know. I've never shot a man before..." is hilarious...

... as is the "No, it's really not!" after Zoe tells Jayne(?) something along the lines of "It's his fight, he needs to finish it". Her surprised "Oh.", and the three pulling out their guns simultaneously and shooting the guy... lovely.

And of course... the ENTIRE "Hero of Canton" song in the bar, from "Jaynestown". Just... hee! Just thinking about it makes me smile! "The he-ro of Caaanton... the man called Jayne!" *giggle* Though the scene where they first discover the "eerie-ass" statue is hysterical, too (that and War Stories are definitely my favorite episodes, I'd say. Though come to think of it, it's pretty hard to pick just one favorite episode, even! Heh).

Oh, and another "close second" from Serenity: the final "What was that?" line. This beautiful, moving ending... and then Joss undercuts it with the same line from the beginning that in and of itself was funny... it just brings such a smile to my face! <--- See? It lets us know that even though we've lost a few people, life will go on for the Serenity crew (which is also why I like the line from Zoe about "She'll keep flying." at the end. Less funny than "What was that?", but so very poignant).


...

But yes, I think "The hell with this, I'm gonna LIVE!" is still my top fave, especially from the movie.


-Runa27


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Saturday, January 7, 2006 12:07 PM

Let me tell you what son. This question is easy. Jayne is my absoulate favorite character. Though I am unsure what it is about him, he always brings the smile to my face. Whether it be the ridiculous Mother-Made toque,The waking up and having to move the gun from between him and his whore, turning on everyone and then learning his morals only to turn on them again... at the right price, or even the highlight of the Television series, when Mal walks into Jayne in the hall and the Mal is given this menacing view of Jayne with this hilariously large weapon.... Verra.

"Bob is not, Bob is.

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Saturday, January 7, 2006 1:45 PM

My favourite moment would be from "Ariel" when Jayne is locked outside the ship, convinced that he is going to die and asks Mal what he going to tell the rest of the crew. Jayne's sad and final "Make somethin' up. Don't tell 'em what I done." brings a little tear to my eye every time.

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Saturday, January 7, 2006 1:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NoFriends:
Let me tell you what son. This question is easy. Jayne is my absoulate favorite character. Though I am unsure what it is about him, he always brings the smile to my face. Whether it be the ridiculous Mother-Made toque,The waking up and having to move the gun from between him and his whore, turning on everyone and then learning his morals only to turn on them again... at the right price, or even the highlight of the Television series, when Mal walks into Jayne in the hall and the Mal is given this menacing view of Jayne with this hilariously large weapon.... Verra.

"Bob is not, Bob is.



I tend to agree that Jayne has hidden depths, if not the intellecutal capacity to back them up. In an alternate universe, where Firefly ran as long as Friends, Jayne would be my vote for the spin-off show. Although, I would hope that he would fare a little better then Joey.

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Saturday, January 7, 2006 3:09 PM

Out of favorite characters i would have to go with Mal. Yes his probably one of the most chosen other than of course Kaylee, but it's the way he leads that I love. He is the anti-her hero. You take everything that your typical hero would so or say, flip them upside-down, and you got Mal. Perfect example is in Serenity (movie) when Mal is going to go rescue Inara and he turns to Zoe and says (probably not exact quote) "If anything happens, if i dont contact you, you take this ship, and you come rescue me." It's exactly something you would expect Mal to say. I just have to love that hes som much more human than most of the typical heroes out there.

Although in OoG if someone would have gut-shot me and tried to steal my ship, i htink i would have had to "Riddle him full'o holes" but thats just me I've never been big on the whole turn-the-other-cheek thing.

-When you can't run you crawl, and when you can't crawl you find someone to carry you-

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Saturday, January 7, 2006 3:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by STDOUBT:
After River's laid down the smack
in the bar, back on the ship...

river: "They're afraid of me".
simon: "I'm sorry".
river: "They should be... but I'll show them,
oh, God!"
Heart rending. Kills my a55 every time.

There's an interesting and revealing error in your transcription. I made the same mistake on my first viewing, before I read the script in the Visual Companion.

What River actually says is: "They should be... what I'll show them... Oh God..."

In fact, she's referring to the Miranda secret, the awful thing she knows and they don't. By that point she's become aware (at some level) that it's about to come out, that she's going to lead the crew to the horrible truth.

What she's NOT saying is "I'll show them"... that is, prove them wrong about something.

Summer gives a great performance in that scene, but that single word is a bit garbled. It's easy to hear it as "but" instead of "what". As I said, I did so myself. Even the subtitles on the DVD get it wrong! But if you think about it, the line as written in the script makes much more sense, since River is hardly in any position to "show them" anything -- other than the truth about Miranda.

I hope you agree that the scene is even better and more powerful when you recognize that line for what it is.

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Saturday, January 7, 2006 3:43 PM

I know this has been mentioned already, but I have to give my two cents. After waiting sooooo long to see the ship again, I would have to say my favorite scene from the BDM is the first time we see the ship. We get the movie title, complete blackness and quiet, then stirring music and that beautiful ship. It makes my heart race and I break into a big smile every time (knowing full well that we will soon get to see all of our characters).

As far as the series goes, I love so much of the dialogue that I cannot choose only one scene, so instead I will go with the two images that were so unexpected that they brought me out of my chair. In Train Job when Mal kicks "Krog" into the engine, and when Mal stabs Ath twice. Mal's sense of justice is such a great mix of practicality and a warped sense of ethics.

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Saturday, January 7, 2006 3:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Runa27:
RIVER: Time to go to sleep...
SIMON: "No, meimei... it's time to wake up." (Which episode was this, Ariel? I can't remember, but I saw it during the Friday SciFi marathon in the afternoon, I know that much)

Yes, it's from Ariel. It's easy to remember if you realize that Simon has finally learned enough about River's brain injuries (in the hospital on Ariel) to design an effective treatment. Or, at least, so he thinks -- later we learn that he's still not very successful.

Another giveaway is River's line, which echoes Simon's as he injects her (earlier in the episode) with the death-simulating drug.

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Saturday, January 7, 2006 3:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tmurrie:
In "War Stories".

Wash: Bastards' not gonna get days.

It's just how he went from quivering to standing tall and piloting out of there because he knew he has gone through nothing like that Captian would be at that moment.

Along with that, when they get back to Serenity and Simon asks if Wash is alright and he just keeps walking by and says "I'm fine".

Watch how I soar indeed, Wash...indeed.




same here... Great acting... u can see it in his face. I was just floored seeing the funny man get angry and forceful...

U gonna be smart here riva!?!

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Saturday, January 7, 2006 3:50 PM

Best part of that whole scene to me though is when hes talking big about the unisex front they're gonna mount and then he cocks the chamber of his derringer sized pistol! that kills me everytime I love it.

-When you can't run you crawl, and when you can't crawl you find someone to carry you-

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Saturday, January 7, 2006 4:34 PM

if outtakes count:"Kaylee! Find that kid who's taking a dirt nap with baby Jesus; we need a hood ornament! Jayne! Try not to steel too much of their shit!"
if intros count, the quote in my sig.

otherwise, in the pilot (2nd half) when simply walks into the ship and shoots Dobson. for me, that tops that scene in indiana jones when, after a swordsman shows off his moves, Indie draws his gun and shoots him.

"The people who made the show, and the people who saw the show, which is roughly the same number of people, fell in love with it, a little bit too much to let it go, too much to lay down arms when when the battle looked pretty much lost. In Hollywood, people like that are called unrealistic, quixotic, obsessive... In my world, they're called Browncoats."
-Joss Whedon

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