Let it go

POSTED BY: BKIvey
UPDATED: Thursday, January 26, 2006 10:45
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BKIVEY

Saturday, January 21, 2006 2:45 PM

Firefly is great. Serenity is fantastic (in all senses of the word). Let it go.

As far as sci-fi is concerned "Serenity" and
"Firefly" raise the bar.

Let us take what we have and build upon it but not wish for the glory days of old. Serenity may never sail again but the frission is still there.

I think that Firefly/Serenity are good at 14 episodes and one great movie. Don't try to spoil things with a desire for more.

SUBTORPMAN

Saturday, January 21, 2006 2:59 PM

Nope, think I keep the faith. Never gave up on Star Trek after I watched the orignal series as a kid.
Quiting is just not my style, Its not over till I say it is.

JAYTEE

Saturday, January 21, 2006 3:06 PM

I'm with Subtorpman. It ain't over till I'm dead and buried. I want a sequel and I'll make sure the world won't be at peace until I get it. Defeatists always try and soft pedal things like being grateful for what they've got and resigning themselves to things as they are because they lack the fortitude to push on and keep trying. We've done the impossible and we'll do it again and that'll make us mightier.

Jaytee

FOLLOWMAL

Saturday, January 21, 2006 3:11 PM

I'm holding the line too... can't give up, it's too important.

We HAVE to have a sequel or a return of the show. No other options for me.

I'm in love, and I don't fall out of love easy.

Not gonna settle.

" You hold. Hold til I get back." Mal

PURPLEBELLY

Saturday, January 21, 2006 3:14 PM

I agree with BKIvey, except for the great movie part -- so why do I still come here?

UNREGISTEREDCOMPANION

Saturday, January 21, 2006 3:19 PM

Ya'll are my kind of stupid :D

NEVER GIVE UP! NEVER SURRENDER!

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"Funny and sexy. You have no idea. And you never will."

MATTEBLACK

Saturday, January 21, 2006 3:23 PM

I agree in respect to hating to see something of diminished quality turned out. If there is a good movie or series to be had with full support and effort that delivers what Firefly did, bring it on. Otherwise, maybe we'd be better off with a consistently quality memory.

CARTOON

Saturday, January 21, 2006 3:25 PM

You know, the Beatles are mentioned in another thread here, and there is a certain parallel I wish to make, regarding a possible return for "Firefly/Serenity".

I don't know the ages of the folks in here, but I'm guessing that many of you were not born when the Beatles were around. Well, the Beatles changed the face of popular music, and there was no going back. After six short years (6 years of fame, with about 5 more before that in obscurity), they broke up and for people who loved music, it was like the music died.

The whole of the 1970's was just one big "Let's get the Beatles back together" thing after another. Rumors abounded. A few ambitious promoters even offered inordinant sums of money in an attempt to entice the boys back together.

(If memory serves me correctly, in 1978 one promoter offered them 200 million dollars for a 30 minute concert. 200 million is a lot now, imagine what that could buy 30 years ago.)

People never stopped demanding a Beatles reunion until there physically could no longer be a Beatles reunion (on Dec. 8, 1980, when John Lennon died).

I imagine it will be the same with "Firefly". In a certain respect, "Firefly" (while not boasting the longetivity of the Beatles) showed us what "good sci-fi" could be like. We're not happy that we were short-changed by the idiot networks, and would like more.

But as someone else has said, the actors aren't getting any younger. Unless you want a "Firefly" with the crew in wheelchairs...

Anyhow, I'd like to see the show return, but I wouldn't hold my breath. I saw this happen with the Beatles, and a lot of music lovers never got their wish.

"You guys started a riot? On account of me? Oh...I am truly touched, truly, truly touched by that. I mean -- all of this has been swell and all, but that, my very own RIOT!"

CBY

Saturday, January 21, 2006 3:49 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BKIvey:
Don't try to spoil things with a desire for more.

*cough* without that desire there wouldn't have been a movie in the first place *cough*

In a real war I would consider your attitude desertion.

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PINBALLWIZARD

Saturday, January 21, 2006 3:59 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BKIvey:
Firefly is great. Serenity is fantastic (in all senses of the word). Let it go.

NEVER! If it was just us, the fans, that wanted more stories in the 'verse, it would be selfish. But no, the creater, the producers, the crew and the cast want it too. All of these people and the fans are the reason Serenity was made in the first place. Remember, dear Mr. Fillion has said that everyone wanted sequals, including him (he wants to die at the end of #3

).

THATWEIRDGIRL

Saturday, January 21, 2006 4:01 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by PurpleBelly:
so why do I still come here?

Because it's not just about Firefly or Serenity anymore. It's about the community we built. You built. You've been here for a while. Your views and theories and opinions helped shaped the board. Folks feel comfortable expressing themselves here. Not just about Firefly and Book's past as a Purple Belly, but about life. I like that. I like that we've kinda made a little home for ourselves.

www.thatweirdgirl.com
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"...turn right at the corner then skip two blocks...no, SKIP, the hopping-like thing kids do...Why? Why not?"

COZEN

Saturday, January 21, 2006 4:08 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by thatweirdgirl:
Not just about Firefly....

Are we evolving?

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"You think somebody wouldn't go see somebody if they didn't want entertainment?"

HAZE

Saturday, January 21, 2006 4:12 PM

Nahh I wont be doing that.

Despite what Joss has been saying going back to Firefly does not require a time machine or a hole to be ripped in the very fabric of space, It merle requires the will to do it.

I wont give up hope.

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Who do you suppose is in there?

GRIMJACK21502

Saturday, January 21, 2006 4:13 PM

If I thought a sequel or return to tv would be sub-par, I would never pine for it, but we are talking about Joss.

No I think I'll hold for awhile longer...we'll pass through this storm soon enough.

"And once you're gone, you can never come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black"
-Neil Young

THATWEIRDGIRL

Saturday, January 21, 2006 4:16 PM

I should add, I'm not holding out for a second movie or a return to tv. If that happens, shiny. But I know the odds. We held the line and got our movie. We've shown Joss and Co. that we loved their creation. In my mind, we've already won.

www.thatweirdgirl.com
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"...turn right at the corner then skip two blocks...no, SKIP, the hopping-like thing kids do...Why? Why not?"

GLUEMAN

Saturday, January 21, 2006 4:16 PM

Don't try to spoil things with a desire for more?

Are you serious?

I'd like to see if We and Joss can capture that
"Lightning in a bottle" again.

SUBTORPMAN

Saturday, January 21, 2006 4:19 PM

Cartoon

Well, being born in 1956 me and my brothers used to run around the house singing beetles songs. We also role played at Star Trek TOS. So I guess I meet the age limit. As far as an actors age goes, thanks to plastic surgery a lot of them retain their youthful looks very late in life. I know that William Shatner had aged a few years between the ending of the series and the begining of the first movie and he looked pretty good.
The Beetles, well they were a singing group and Star Trek was a T.V. Series. Apples and Oranges to me. Think I'll just keep the faith and go to a few conventions. Going to one in Orlando Fl next weekend to see Wash and River.

I see that you post a lot and enjoy your posts
Thanks.

ZOID

Saturday, January 21, 2006 4:41 PM

PurpleBelly wrote:

Quote:
I agree with BKIvey, except for the great movie part -- so why do I still come here?

You're just pissed that your "denouement" can never come to pass. On the other hand, you could look at it metaphorically, as though Wash overdosed on the heroin you thought he'd eventually become addicted to. ...Not the drug, but from using too large a (wooden) needle.

All due respect, but I think I'll hold onto hope for more. As I wrote in that 'Beatles comparison' referred to above, we need a show about fighting the powers that be, governmental and corporate. I think that's what attracted people all over the world to the show, and is probably the reason the show and movie were both plagued by poor support. Semi-anarchy and anti-commercialism are not exactly welcome topics at the top levels of the media outlets, no matter how much they (subconsciously?) appeal to us.

The show was the antithesis of the utopian attitudes of Star Trek. Can anybody recall a single episode of the series that didn't have some 'a big nosey government is bad' or 'BlueSun owns everything' reference in it? Of course, the entire movie is anti-'overgovernance'. Not because the government is necessarily totally rotten from top to bottom, but because it's got its whole fist in your reconstituted protein birthday cake (made as chocolatey as possible, given the quality of commercial foodstuffs)...

Anarchically,

zoid

P.S.
Scroll, 'Belly, scroll...

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"I aim to misbehave." -Capt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity, a.k.a. 'the BDBOF'

CARTOON

Saturday, January 21, 2006 5:09 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by subtorpman:
Think I'll just keep the faith and go to a few conventions. Going to one in Orlando Fl next weekend to see Wash and River.

Be sure to tell 'em how we all enjoyed their work. (Make sure Summer knows we think she was robbed by award-nominating powers that be.)

Quote:
Originally posted by subtorpman:
I see that you post a lot and enjoy your posts
Thanks.

Thank you. You're probably the only one.

14 episodes and a movie is way too little to leave us with, and I'm still hoping for more, as well. Nonetheless, to look at things positively, we should probably be glad we have what we do. I mean, this whole show may've never been produced in the first place, and we never would've enjoyed any of the exploits of Mal, Jayne, River, et al. Pretty dull and boring sci-fi world before "Firefly", and 14 is better than zero.

"No. I just, I have captainy stuff I have to do."

ZAMIAM

Saturday, January 21, 2006 5:11 PM

If there is never another Firefly episode or Serenity movie, I will not be terribly sad. I will not feel like I, or any of the fans, failed. I will be glad for what was and what is.

But I will also want to know that I put forth effort to gather support for something I so enjoy.

I don't mind that some fans would rather put the series to rest, but why, why in the name of all that is shiny would you try and get others to do the same?

It don't make no sense to me.

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I am a leaf on the wind.

SUMMERWIND

Saturday, January 21, 2006 5:38 PM

Nope, not going to give up.

-Summerwind

CHRISPV

Saturday, January 21, 2006 5:58 PM

I refuse to accept that there won't be more. However, I seem to be somewhat in the minority in that I'd be just fine if "more" translated to a whole passel of comics and novels. It's the Expanded Universe Star Wars nerd in me that, as much as I'd love to see the BDHs on screen again, I'd be more than thrilled if we got a string of quality print fiction.

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal, Fox!

DUG

Saturday, January 21, 2006 6:06 PM

Give up?

Not gonna happen.

I've seen what can happen if you stick to your guns. Look at Doctor Who and the fan-built dynasty there. What, don't know what I mean? After the show was cancelled the uber-fans kept up the fan fics. Then came the Virgin published novels. Some written by the same uber-fans. Then the BBC published book line, which lasted several *hundred* books. Some written by the same uber-fans.

At the same time there were fan produced radio dramas. I think at least three continuing lines of them. And then the BBC licensed commercial radio dramas, which are quite good. And the fan produced movies.

And now the show is back on the BBC; doing great. If we keep flying and keeping the verse alive we won't wind up on the drift. We may be rolling our own stories; we may wind up saying hellywood turned it's back on us but that doesn't mean that the story has to end....we just have to help Joss find ways to keep telling it and find our own places out on the fringe.

JAYHAWK35

Saturday, January 21, 2006 6:39 PM

Count me in too! I just discovered the 'verse a couple of months ago, and I'm not about to let it go so easily. I agree, if all we end up with is a few novels and comics, so be it, but I'm not ready to take my dog out of this fight just yet.

I'm still pushing Firefly on all my friends and coworkers, and I'm developing a small army of "groupies" as my wife calls them. Awareness of Firefly/Serenity is growing, and while it may be too little and too late to save the sinking ship, I'm heading for the bridge with the Captain, and I'm going down with it.

---
Zoë: "Preacher, don't the bible have some pretty specific things to say about killing?"

Book: "quite specific. It is however somewhat fuzzier on the subject of kneecaps"

OMELET

Saturday, January 21, 2006 6:49 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jayhawk35:
Count me in too!Awareness of Firefly/Serenity is growing, and while it may be too little and too late to save the sinking ship, I'm heading for the bridge with the Captain, and I'm going down with it.

I'll join ya at the bridge.Oh dear, this is bringing memories of that movie Titanic now. *Sniff* Sorry 'bout that.

I don't think I can let Firefly go. I put my heart and soul into this thing and it's a part of me. It's most important now that we hold the line stronger than ever before for the hope that we may have our 'verse back again.

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Jayne: Are you saying River's a witch?
Wash: Yes, Jayne, she's a witch. She's had congress with the Beast.
Jayne: She's in Congress?
Wash: How did your brain even learn human speech? I'm just so curious!

CBY

Saturday, January 21, 2006 6:56 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by ZamIAm:
I don't mind that some fans would rather put the series to rest, but why, why in the name of all that is shiny would you try and get others to do the same?

Very good point. Why can't you guys just keep your insignificant thoughts for yourselves and leave us allone? This is starting to smell like Troll Country.

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KOMELION

Saturday, January 21, 2006 7:24 PM

Give up? Let it go?

.....

Na. Well, maybe, if they make more, and Joss finally says that it’s over.

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Well, here I am.

DATALESS

Saturday, January 21, 2006 7:45 PM

We've done the impossible once, so why not try to do it again. What's the worst that can happen? All you invest is time and a little money (DVDs and a shirt or funny hat). Just giving up on something so truly unique and wholly amazing is just sad. I consider the ship and the crew to be friends and if they were truly gone I, well I think it best said by Red (Morgan Freeman) from The Shawshank Redemption. I think we should fight a war with anyone that tells us to stop fighting (even Joss Whedon) doesn't really understand what we have and can't. It's simple hope for a familiar voice in the black so we don't go all bibildy and they were the best. So I fight because it is only right I can see to do when the dark closes in. So make your choice on which side of the line you stand on. Fight for the smallest of hope that one day we will see Serenity fly again or just sit there sadly doing nothing but watching what you've know is there with nothing (not even the smallest of hope) that there could be more. Even if it is gone forever we can still make more even if you and I have to write our own stories. There's still a book or two still coming a comic as well. The RPG is still releasing an adventure. So I say once again fight, fight even when you have no other reasons.

"Those of us who knew it best talk about him often. I swear, the stuff he pulled. It always makes us laugh. Sometimes it makes me sad, though, it being gone. I have to remind myself that some birds aren't meant to be caged, that's all. Their feathers are just too bright and when they fly away, the part of you that knows it was a sin to lock them up does rejoice... but still, the place you live is that much more drab and empty that they're gone. I guess I just miss my friend."

GRIMJACK21502

Saturday, January 21, 2006 8:48 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Dataless:

"Those of us who knew it best talk about him often. I swear, the stuff he pulled. It always makes us laugh. Sometimes it makes me sad, though, it being gone. I have to remind myself that some birds aren't meant to be caged, that's all. Their feathers are just too bright and when they fly away, the part of you that knows it was a sin to lock them up does rejoice... but still, the place you live is that much more drab and empty that they're gone. I guess I just miss my friend."

And though it took some time and some work...

Red saw his friend again.

I'm with you all. For now and forever.

"And once you're gone, you can never come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black"
-Neil Young

KIERAN

Saturday, January 21, 2006 8:53 PM

Don't spoil it with a desire for more?

Isn't that what life is about? Desiring more than just what's in front of you? Hope is an integral part of life. If you had no hope or desire for more in life, what would be the point in living?

ZOESBACKUP

Saturday, January 21, 2006 8:53 PM

Millions of people out there fervently believe and are waiting for the second coming of Jesus Christ.

I fervently believe and am waiting for the second coming of The 'Verse.

If we can't have the BDHs then whatever characters Joss comes up with be equally adored/reviled and the actors who portray them will be equally wonderful. Joss's standards and passion demand nothing less.

nice cover fire
Oh, and I also have a black belt in Smackdown Fu

RKLENSETH

Saturday, January 21, 2006 9:51 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BKIvey:
Firefly is great. Serenity is fantastic (in all senses of the word). Let it go.

As far as sci-fi is concerned "Serenity" and
"Firefly" raise the bar.

Let us take what we have and build upon it but not wish for the glory days of old. Serenity may never sail again but the frission is still there.

I think that Firefly/Serenity are good at 14 episodes and one great movie. Don't try to spoil things with a desire for more.

And if we thought that way when Firefly was canceled then there would have never been a Serenity. So you're probably already understanding my point here.

Oh, and play Cantr II at www.cantr.net.

KILTEDBROWNCOAT

Saturday, January 21, 2006 10:38 PM

My first post on here ,in answer to the call to give it up.
No not yet,.............and not by a long way.
I discovered the verse but two months ago,
I've only started handing out the TV series,none of my mates have even heard of Firefly or Serenity.

Hold fast brown coats ,the reinforcements are coming,the word is spreading every day.
Do not doubt that what we have seen is something special,it just has to reach a wider audience.

I'm a brown coat ....I'm a believer ......Serinity WILL fly again.

KILTEDBROWNCOAT

Saturday, January 21, 2006 10:58 PM

Just checked Amazon UK just now ,Serenity is sitting at No 2 on the hot 100 DVD'S.

Serenity WILL fly again

THECRAZYIVAN

Saturday, January 21, 2006 11:11 PM

Here 'til the very end, and i dont see an end anytime soon!

Fight on Browncoats!

Hell, the whole basis of the show is to never give up! What a great lesson for a cancelled show with obsessive fans eh?

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"There is a sense that this is still not over. It's hard to put a finger on what's so special about this project and about this group of people, but it's just one of those things you have to trust in, and relish. I am very, very proud."
---Jewel Staite on "Firefly" and "Serenity" in "Finding Serenity" (essay collection by Jane Espenson)

ILLEGALARGENTINE

Saturday, January 21, 2006 11:32 PM

Firefly will probably never be remade...but remember that the show Family Guy was also canceled by Fox only to come back and recieve a higher viewing rate then the Simpsons. I don't think firefly can do this...but you never know if the Sci-Fi Channel will decide to stop making their crappy movies and put the money to making more Firefly. I doubt that will happen.

Firefly is probably dead...but the idea will start a revolution in the creation of space series. The show gave a more western lawless frountere idea to space travel, something Star Wars and Star Trek never did. More space series will have adventures in the red neck planets of the universe because of Firefly. Hopefully the ideals of main characters being shot anywere form 3 to 4 times an epp will live on too. Firefly was the first show where the main characters were shot in every epp.

Firefly was and forever will be the only Space Western that isn't afraid to have a witch burning!

EMPXENU

Sunday, January 22, 2006 12:01 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by cartoon:
But as someone else has said, the actors aren't getting any younger. Unless you want a "Firefly" with the crew in wheelchairs...

Eh, they're not exactly getting ready to retire either. The oldest cast member - not counting Ron Glass, whose character is now dead - is Adam, and he's 43.

And give up on the finest show in this crap-heel 'verse, when it needs support like never before? Not gonna happen.

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"I think, therefore I am... I think"

MISBEHAVIN

Sunday, January 22, 2006 12:19 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by CBY:
Quote:
Originally posted by BKIvey:
Don't try to spoil things with a desire for more.

*cough* without that desire there wouldn't have been a movie in the first place *cough* ...

Amen to that. And without the movie there wouldn't be all of the new fans like me who now desire a sequel and are helping to spread that desire a little more.

PURPLEBELLY

Sunday, January 22, 2006 12:24 AM

Quote:
... too large a (wooden) needle

Hi z
I'm just confused that he doesn't get dusted

BTW your original is a perfect fit

RACOONBOY

Sunday, January 22, 2006 12:45 AM

Serenity and Firefly DVDs are selling quite well, well enough for a sequel, as in we WILL get our sequel, and then another sequel, and then a continuation of the show.

Our chances arren't as bad as people try to make out.

RKLENSETH

Sunday, January 22, 2006 12:50 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by RacoonBoy:
Serenity and Firefly DVDs are selling quite well, well enough for a sequel, as in we WILL get our sequel, and then another sequel, and then a continuation of the show.

Our chances arren't as bad as people try to make out.

I agree. The sequel might not happen in the next year or two but it will happen as sure as the rain will fall.

And while we wait we have these things coming out to quench our thirst for more:

1. Serenity Comic Books Spring or Summer of 2006.
2. Serenity Novels; first one projected for Summer of 2006 probably farther off though; next one's author hasn't been announced yet.
3. An expansion to the Serenity role playing game coming out very soon.
4. Firefly trading cards.

And I'm sure there will be more down the road.

Oh, and play Cantr II at www.cantr.net.

MATTIE

Sunday, January 22, 2006 1:19 AM

Oh, I'm mighty greatful for the 14 Firefly episodes and for the awesome movie, Serenity. I absolutely love what I've got!

The thing is, though, that I can't help but want more. I can't help it because it's been ressurected once, why not a second time? I can't help it because I think that there's more to this 'verse than what we've got. That's why I read fanfic; that's why I read anything I can get my hands on that says anything about Firefly or Serenity; that's why I call this place home. Here, we all recognize that there are more stories to be told; and the most beautiful part of it all is that to fill that Firefly void, we tell our own stories.

Please, please don't ever tell me to give up hope. Please don't ask me to let go of something that has opened my eyes to the world around me. Please don't ask me to forsake my dreams of wanting more, because that's like asking me to leave home.

Oh, I am greatful for what I've got, but for me and many others, there's something more, something wanting about the 'verse that is there.

You don't have to want more, but don't ruin the fun and the hopes of everyone else.

Wacky fun!

NIKNAK

Sunday, January 22, 2006 2:11 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by illegalArgentine:
Firefly will probably never be remade...but remember that the show Family Guy was also canceled by Fox only to come back and recieve a higher viewing rate then the Simpsons. I don't think firefly can do this...

Why not? Both have done very well in DVD sales and Firefly has had the benefit of a movie to enlarge the fanbase, which Family Guy did not. The movie didn't do spectacularly well but it didn't flop either. Another movie or TV series is definitely possible. Whichever they do it would have a bigger initial fanbase and more media hype second time round. Both Fox and Universal would be crazy not to at least consider it.

ILLEGALARGENTINE

Sunday, January 22, 2006 2:25 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by niknak:
Quote:
Originally posted by illegalArgentine:
Firefly will probably never be remade...but remember that the show Family Guy was also canceled by Fox only to come back and recieve a higher viewing rate then the Simpsons. I don't think firefly can do this...

Why not? Both have done very well in DVD sales and Firefly has had the benefit of a movie to enlarge the fanbase, which Family Guy did not. The movie didn't do spectacularly well but it didn't flop either. Another movie or TV series is definitely possible. Whichever they do it would have a bigger initial fanbase and more media hype second time round. Both Fox and Universal would be crazy not to at least consider it.

the problem is that more people are able to get Family Guy. Firefly is something that is harder for people to relate to. Not as many people can understand the ideas of a Space Western or even want to spend the time watching one. More people can relate to comedy, not as many can relate to Sci-Fi. The problem with the series is that it doesn't have the huge vast numbers that a show needs, it only has a small loyal cult...a cult that couldn't keep the movie in the boxoffice for more then two weeks.

FOLLOWMAL

Sunday, January 22, 2006 2:38 AM

Ok, this is now numerous. You've used this "only in theatre's 2 weeks" thing several times. Can't let it go, not in the mood this evening. Not trying to be argumentative but I can't let non-facts go.

The movie was in theatres longer than 2 weeks.
It did fine. It's going to do fine once we tally all the totals.

I'm a business woman, and I can see the logic of doing something with this. It'll happen, but some time will pass before it does. Joss is busy, Universal is still scoping out what will happen next. Lots of DVD's still to sell outside of the USA. This isn't the only market you know.

I got my Entertainment Weekly today. Serenity is within the top 100 sellers for the year. Just on theatre take alone. Not #1 but not bad either. It will make Universal money.
And they will do SOMETHING with it.

Yeah, people like Family Guy, but people fall in LOVE with the 'verse. Then they get busy and help others see the wonders of it and THEY fall in love. Our "small loyal cult" will grow. It's a given.

"I start fighting a war, I guarantee you'll see something new." Mal

GRIMJACK21502

Sunday, January 22, 2006 3:09 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by kiltedbrowncoat:
My first post on here ,in answer to the call to give it up.
No not yet,.............and not by a long way.
I discovered the verse but two months ago,
I've only started handing out the TV series,none of my mates have even heard of Firefly or Serenity.

Hold fast brown coats ,the reinforcements are coming,the word is spreading every day.
Do not doubt that what we have seen is something special,it just has to reach a wider audience.

I'm a brown coat ....I'm a believer ......Serinity WILL fly again.

We're with ya!
Keep recruiting, grow our numbers...soon my friends, very soon we will be impossible to ignore.

Cudos to you KiltedBC! Know that you have comrades-in-arms on this side of the pond.

This fight is only just beginning.

"And once you're gone, you can never come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black"
-Neil Young

PHATCORNS

Sunday, January 22, 2006 3:15 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by BKIvey:
Firefly is great. Serenity is fantastic (in all senses of the word). Let it go.

As far as sci-fi is concerned "Serenity" and
"Firefly" raise the bar.

Let us take what we have and build upon it but not wish for the glory days of old. Serenity may never sail again but the frission is still there.

I think that Firefly/Serenity are good at 14 episodes and one great movie. Don't try to spoil things with a desire for more.

I agree completely. Let's just enjoy what we got.

HAEKELDRACHE

Sunday, January 22, 2006 3:21 AM

Right now Amazon Germany has rated the Serenity Special edition DVD #168, six weeks before release. I think this might say something. Firefly is at #433

Won´t let her go. It´s like leaving an old bleeding friend to die while he is still alive and talking to you! Can´t do this...

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"Burn the land and boil the Sea, you can´t take the Sky from me..."

Haekeldrache is german for Crochetdragon

ANONYMOUS1

Sunday, January 22, 2006 6:33 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by FollowMal:
I got my Entertainment Weekly today. Serenity is within the top 100 sellers for the year. Just on theatre take alone. Not #1 but not bad either. It will make Universal money.
And they will do SOMETHING with it.

Which issue of Entertainment Weekly is that in?

What # and date?

What page?

MICHAELANGELO

Sunday, January 22, 2006 7:18 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by BKIvey:
Firefly is great. Serenity is fantastic (in all senses of the word). Let it go.

Yeah, well, i think you're barking up the wrong tree here. I never saw the show on TV. Didn't hear about it til 2 years ago when a friend lent me the DVD set. Been in love ever since. I, as a general rule, don't watch much TV. It's all crap. Then a show like this comes along & some ruttin bungger goes cancelin it. That don't sit right with me. I'm certainly not the loudest recruiter in the bunch (i can claim only 10 or so new Browncoats personally recruited), but ain't no one love this show more than me. And you askin us to lay down & die? Well, that don't sit right either. We hold. I will most likely spend the rest of my days hoping for a few more seasons as i'm right sure it ain't gonna happen, but i ain't givin up. I’ll continue to share Firefly with anyone who will let me. Yeah, we may get 1 more movie out of it, but that's little consolation. As much as I enjoyed it, Serenity wasn't Firefly.

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You can't take the sky from me

JUMPY

Sunday, January 22, 2006 7:54 AM

I think its perfectly healthy to want to keep firefly alive. Its when that sort of thing consumes your life that you have problems. For the majority of people here I'm sure that's not the case though so hey, keep the faith, woo!

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There's no show I'd rather see, than the one with Serenity.
You can't take the sky from me...

KILTEDBROWNCOAT

Sunday, January 22, 2006 8:10 AM

Quote:

We're with ya!
Keep recruiting, grow our numbers...soon my friends, very soon we will be impossible to ignore.

Cudos to you KiltedBC! Know that you have comrades-in-arms on this side of the pond.

This fight is only just beginning.

Thanks for that ,some of you have been fighting a long time ,you must feel tired and weary.
Do not give up hope brothers and sisters,been sending out some waves ,recruiting more for the cause,we will fight on.

OLDSOUL1987

Sunday, January 22, 2006 8:39 AM

I like the show i like the movie, i like the world and the characters. I think it worth the fighting for, to see how it all turns out. Part of me wants to say some cool brown coat line like the '...and that makes us mighty..' like mal said to a fellow brown coat. and that same part of me wants to i don't know arange showings of serenity and firefly with fellow fans to invite potensial BC, you know spread the madness lol. But i guess the other part of me the part that is going wait let see what happens before you get all enthusiastic keeps telling me not to get involved. I liked a show before, 'the x-files' not like a super great show firefly is SO much better but still i liked it before enough to buy the Show on DvD and i waited for the 2nd movie and, it just all went to hell. I just dont want to get super into a fandom that is dead or rather on that little rim waiting to be pushed of to its death, it just gets my hopes up that i will have more cool adventures to watch or read. But then the other side of me the brown coat that knows she has lost things before but she has to get over it and fight comes back to say maybe you just did not fight hard enough maybe you just did not Want it bad enough. and so i try to find a blance, and that is to just take it as is comes and be happy with what you got, but if you want something and you see a way to get it that is within the laws of morality ... then fight for it and fight so hard so that no one can make the mistake of thinking you just dont give a damn...

KIBBSTER

Sunday, January 22, 2006 8:49 AM

The day we give up and stop wanting more is the day we forgot why we became Browncoats.
We are fans because we have shared in a vision that is very special and very unique.
We are Browncoats because we aren't willing to give up on getting the show/BDMs ressurected no matter what the odds because of that vision shared.

Even the cast and crew love us for loving them and giving them a chance to fly again.

I can't do anything as selfish as give up, I have my fellow browncoats, Joss, the cast and all the other people out there who are potential browncoats to think about.
And that gives me strength.

Just to quote
We have done the impossible and that makes us mighty.
Can't stop the signal.

FOLLOWMAL

Sunday, January 22, 2006 1:48 PM

Anonymous1,

Here ya go.

The one that says 20006 Preview on it, with Johnny Depp in the upper left corner and the new Superman in the lower left and Tom Hanks, Julia Roberts and the Sopranos in the lower three circles at the bottom. It is Issue# 860 dated January 27, 2006 ( my birthday!) and the list of the top 100 is on page 23. Serenity is # 95 (granted that is way down there, but it is WITHIN the top 100!) total box office to date $38.8. I'm assuming that is theatre alone, since this top 100 is about theatre take.

The article tops with The Top 100 then below that says "Meet last year's century club......"

I for one am proud of our little movie that could: after all it came out the same year as the latest Star Wars film no less!! Not easy competition.

" I start fighting a war, I guarantee you'll see something new. " Mal

TEETHGRINDER

Sunday, January 22, 2006 2:42 PM

Let it go?? Let's see...
You gotta be kidding me!!! I'm a newbie and one of the first things that I learned is that browncoats are not the type of fans to give up.
The odds are against us... Our backs are against the wall but there ain't no giving up or letting it go!!! If Firefly/Serenity affected your life as much as it did mine and countless other browncoats... You wouldn't think of letting it go or giving up. What else is there without our Big Damn Heroes??

AURAPTOR

Sunday, January 22, 2006 3:07 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BKIvey:
Firefly is great. Serenity is fantastic (in all senses of the word). Let it go.

As far as sci-fi is concerned "Serenity" and
"Firefly" raise the bar.

Let us take what we have and build upon it but not wish for the glory days of old. Serenity may never sail again but the frission is still there.

I think that Firefly/Serenity are good at 14 episodes and one great movie. Don't try to spoil things with a desire for more.

Sometimes forcing the issue ends up only making a mess. I know of what you speak, but many here think the story remains untold. I don't expect much more than what we've gotten already, as we really have done the impossible. I can live w/ that.

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

ANDRE83

Sunday, January 22, 2006 5:07 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BKIvey:
Let it go.

If you can, good for you. I cant. Simple.

Jayne: All those years of preacher training, getting knocked out by one bounty hunter
Book: Oh, dont get me wrong. I gave him a hell of a fight
Jayne: Epic i'm guessing

RIVER6213

Sunday, January 22, 2006 5:40 PM

The architect of this thread should be put out of the air-lock.

OOKAMIKAWAHARA

Sunday, January 22, 2006 8:38 PM

BKIvey, Thanks for the comment
However, sorry I favor in fighting for what I believe. If more is made great. If not zannen, Oh well, but either way I keep fighting. I ain't been told to lay down arms yet... So I keep holden and helpen in the small ways I can. Anyways thanks for the comments.
mata, Ookami yori

Surren tis a whole heapen pile of right ugly trouble ain't it.

ANDRE83

Sunday, January 22, 2006 8:46 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by RiveR6213:
The architect of this thread should be put out of the air-lock.

Correctomonde!

Andre: You turned away! You gave up
BKIVEY: Nooo...i would never do such a thing
Andre: Yes you did
BKIVEY:Oh, i'm sorry ok? Its not like i turned you down!
Andre: Oh, but you did. You turn on ANY 1. series of mine, you turn on me. You did it to me BK....and thats a fact.

*opens hatch*
*bk flies out*

Jayne: All those years of preacher training, getting knocked out by one bounty hunter
Book: Oh, dont get me wrong. I gave him a hell of a fight
Jayne: Epic i'm guessing

DRPAIN

Sunday, January 22, 2006 9:00 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by RiveR6213:
The architect of this thread should be put out of the air-lock.

I agree but isn't the option of

thier kneecaps with Vera still open?

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WWJD: What Would Jayne Do?

CBY

Sunday, January 22, 2006 9:01 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Haekeldrache:
Right now Amazon Germany has rated the Serenity Special edition DVD #168

Where did you find that figure? I can see only three versions there...

- Serenity UK Import (this is the one I preordered) is at #8.365
- Serenity German +UMD (whatever UMD is) is at #6.661
- Serenity German without UMD (?) is at #6.809

Am I looking in the wrong place?

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CHRISPV

Sunday, January 22, 2006 9:09 PM

CBY, UMD is a video medium used to view movies on the PlayStation Portable (PSP). Don't much cotton to it myself, but hey, to each his own.

I don't know about shoving the architect out the airlock. After all, I can see where he's coming from. I spent most of my recent time with Star Wars desperately wishing the torrent of crap would just stop. Honestly, I'd rather see the 'verse stop too rather than see it turned over to someone who either doesn't know or doesnt care what it should look like.

'Course, I trust Joss, so I don't think that's even an issue.

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal, Fox!

ANDRE83

Sunday, January 22, 2006 9:15 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by ChrisPV:
CBY, UMD is a video medium used to view movies on the PlayStation Portable (PSP). Don't much cotton to it myself, but hey, to each his own.

I don't know about shoving the architect out the airlock. After all, I can see where he's coming from. I spent most of my recent time with Star Wars desperately wishing the torrent of crap would just stop. Honestly, I'd rather see the 'verse stop too rather than see it turned over to someone who either doesn't know or doesnt care what it should look like.

'Course, I trust Joss, so I don't think that's even an issue.

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal, Fox!

Where on earth does this come from?

Let me give you a piece of info:

George Lucas cant write for shit. Thats the problem

Joss can.....thats his strenght

Jayne: All those years of preacher training, getting knocked out by one bounty hunter
Book: Oh, dont get me wrong. I gave him a hell of a fight
Jayne: Epic i'm guessing

CHRISPV

Sunday, January 22, 2006 10:56 PM

Exactly my point.

If the 'verse would wind up getting pawned off on someone other than Joss, someone like, say George Lucas, than I'd rather it just end. However, I doubt Joss would ever do such a thing, and as such, I see no point in giving up hope.

Merely stating that I can understand a circumstance where the story coming to a close might be superior to it continuing, i.e. the current state of Star Wars.

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal, Fox!

ANDRE83

Monday, January 23, 2006 11:33 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by ChrisPV:
Exactly my point.

If the 'verse would wind up getting pawned off on someone other than Joss, someone like, say George Lucas, than I'd rather it just end. However, I doubt Joss would ever do such a thing, and as such, I see no point in giving up hope.

Merely stating that I can understand a circumstance where the story coming to a close might be superior to it continuing, i.e. the current state of Star Wars.

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal, Fox!

Oh, then we agree :)

Noone else but `Joss and TIm should touch this.

Jayne: All those years of preacher training, getting knocked out by one bounty hunter
Book: Oh, dont get me wrong. I gave him a hell of a fight
Jayne: Epic i'm guessing

PILOTRITA

Monday, January 23, 2006 12:30 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BKIvey:
Firefly is great. Serenity is fantastic (in all senses of the word). Let it go.

As far as sci-fi is concerned "Serenity" and
"Firefly" raise the bar.

Let us take what we have and build upon it but not wish for the glory days of old. Serenity may never sail again but the frission is still there.

I think that Firefly/Serenity are good at 14 episodes and one great movie. Don't try to spoil things with a desire for more.

Why in the WORLD would you want to let it go????
*sigh*
Sorry, I'm with the rest, CANT and WONT let it go :) I love the 'verse and the gang far too much and have too much respect for Joss and his baby to let it go. WE WILL see something from them all again in the 'verse, trust me...:)

Let's be bad guys!

PILOTRITA

Monday, January 23, 2006 12:31 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Andre83:
Quote:
Originally posted by ChrisPV:
Exactly my point.

If the 'verse would wind up getting pawned off on someone other than Joss, someone like, say George Lucas, than I'd rather it just end. However, I doubt Joss would ever do such a thing, and as such, I see no point in giving up hope.

Merely stating that I can understand a circumstance where the story coming to a close might be superior to it continuing, i.e. the current state of Star Wars.

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal, Fox!

Oh, then we agree :)

Noone else but `Joss and TIm should touch this.

Jayne: All those years of preacher training, getting knocked out by one bounty hunter
Book: Oh, dont get me wrong. I gave him a hell of a fight
Jayne: Epic i'm guessing

No one else But Joss would touch this, Joss wouldn't let em :) lol Would probably send Mal after 'em too! heh

Let's be bad guys!

PILOTRITA

Monday, January 23, 2006 12:38 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by illegalArgentine:
Firefly will probably never be remade...but remember that the show Family Guy was also canceled by Fox only to come back and recieve a higher viewing rate then the Simpsons. I don't think firefly can do this...but you never know if the Sci-Fi Channel will decide to stop making their crappy movies and put the money to making more Firefly. I doubt that will happen.

Firefly is probably dead...but the idea will start a revolution in the creation of space series. The show gave a more western lawless frountere idea to space travel, something Star Wars and Star Trek never did. More space series will have adventures in the red neck planets of the universe because of Firefly. Hopefully the ideals of main characters being shot anywere form 3 to 4 times an epp will live on too. Firefly was the first show where the main characters were shot in every epp.

Firefly was and forever will be the only Space Western that isn't afraid to have a witch burning!

Again with the negative...
How can you say it's "probably" dead...you dont have a clue what's up for it next...none of us do...if we start thinking it's "probably dead" etc then what does that say to Joss and to everyone out there? That makes no sense after all we have done to get to where we are now! :) I refuse to hear probablys and talking negatively and in the past tense.....Firefly isn't dead my friend (sure it may not be a tv series again, that's okay, but we will see it again in some form :)
PS, I know you weren't meaning the post to be bad or negative, cuz i also have said that part about Family Guy, etc...but we just can't think negatively one second! :)

Let's be bad guys!

CHRISPV

Monday, January 23, 2006 2:46 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Andre83:
Oh, then we agree :)

Noone else but `Joss and TIm should touch this.

Yup.

Y'see, I've been following Star Wars, Star Trek, and most superhero comics since I was a kid. Pains me to see the state they're in these days, all of them. We've got a Superman that mindwipes villains (and Batmen), Spider-Man with what amounts to Wolverine claws, Captain Sam Beckett fighting Borg with Vulcan Hottie McCantAct, and Anakin "Obi-Wan's holding me Back!" Skywalker. Joss can turn out excellent product, consistently. I trust him, and only him, with the 'verse. Fortunately, I think he only trusts him with the 'verse too. That's why I put myself firmly in the "hold the line camp."

Thing is, this ship isn't grounded yet. Joss has said there'll be more comics in two seperate interviews, and the other two novels have been coming for ages.

Keep the faith!

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal, Fox!

HAEKELDRACHE

Monday, January 23, 2006 2:58 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by CBY:
Quote:
Originally posted by Haekeldrache:
Right now Amazon Germany has rated the Serenity Special edition DVD #168

Where did you find that figure? I can see only three versions there...
(...)
Am I looking in the wrong place?

#161. Try this link (Or search for "Serenity" and select "DVD" in the Dropdown-Menu:
http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000E6UUO6/qid=1138027921/sr=1-1
/ref=sr_1_11_1/303-0583554-7996232

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Haekeldrache is german for Crochetdragon

FLYWITHMECAPTN

Monday, January 23, 2006 3:02 PM

Sorry, can't....won't do......I'm holding.......holding as long as I can.......

Browncoats Unite!!!!!!!!

Don't forget to call him "Sir." He likes that.

BAYBREEZE1

Monday, January 23, 2006 5:18 PM

Until such time as Joss Whedon himself states unequivocably that he will not be involved in a movie sequal or tv series, I will continue to believe and hope.

RKLENSETH

Monday, January 23, 2006 5:23 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by pilotrita:
Quote:
Originally posted by Andre83:
Quote:
Originally posted by ChrisPV:
Exactly my point.

If the 'verse would wind up getting pawned off on someone other than Joss, someone like, say George Lucas, than I'd rather it just end. However, I doubt Joss would ever do such a thing, and as such, I see no point in giving up hope.

Merely stating that I can understand a circumstance where the story coming to a close might be superior to it continuing, i.e. the current state of Star Wars.

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal, Fox!

Oh, then we agree :)

Noone else but `Joss and TIm should touch this.

Jayne: All those years of preacher training, getting knocked out by one bounty hunter
Book: Oh, dont get me wrong. I gave him a hell of a fight
Jayne: Epic i'm guessing

No one else But Joss would touch this, Joss wouldn't let em :) lol Would probably send Mal after 'em too! heh

Let's be bad guys!

Actually, there are others that could work on Firefly/Serenity such as Tim Minear who have the same vision as Joss as to where the 'verse should go.

If a sequel is picked up I believe Tim Minear will be the one to direct it if not write it as well with Joss overseeing (probably taking more of producer spot).

Oh, and play Cantr II at www.cantr.net.

BROWNCOAT1

Monday, January 23, 2006 5:37 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BKIvey:
Firefly is great. Serenity is fantastic (in all senses of the word). Let it go.

As far as sci-fi is concerned "Serenity" and
"Firefly" raise the bar.

Let us take what we have and build upon it but not wish for the glory days of old. Serenity may never sail again but the frission is still there.

I think that Firefly/Serenity are good at 14 episodes and one great movie. Don't try to spoil things with a desire for more.

Well, you'll have to forgive the majority of us if we don't decide to just give up & go home.

You see, many of us have been here since the series was still on the air. More found their way here when the series went on hiatus. More found their way after the DVD for the series was released & then the rest have followed since the release of the movie & it's DVD. To me it doesn't matter if someone has been here since before the show aired if they just found their way here yesterday. The important thing is that they are here. Their being here means that they care & want to do something to help get the show back on the air.

Some of us have been fighting so long it is hard to remember a time when we weren't employing guerilla marketing techniques or pitching the DVD to new people to inspire interest & expand the fanbase. I ain't whinging mind you, I am only to happy to do as much as I can for Firefly & Serenity. I am very proud to have been a part of this since the beginning. I feel a flush of pride whenever I hear Joss, the BDHs or the writer of an article talk about us browncoats.

You see, not giving up is why we are still here. If we had given up when Fox put the show on hiatus we wouldn't have what we have now. There would be no series DVD set, no movie or DVD, no comics, no action figures, no cards, no Visual Companion, no movie magazine, no novels in the near future, no t-shirts or other fan made merchandise, or all the other shiny things that are on the way. Browncoats don't quit. Not ever. It just isn't in our nature.

So, you can figure on us quitting when politicians stop lying, lawyers stop chasing ambulances, & pigs fly.

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"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

Richmond, VA & surrounding area Firefly Fans:

http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/richmondbrowncoats/

http://www.richmondbrowncoats.org

CHICKENHED

Monday, January 23, 2006 9:49 PM

I will never let this show go. I am new to this forum and this is my first post. Yes, I have been around since the beginning of Firefly, but who cares? As has been said, it doesn't matter how we got here, just that we ARE here. I am in love with this show and this universe. And I won't give up.

CBY

Tuesday, January 24, 2006 3:04 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Haekeldrache:
Try this link (Or search for "Serenity" and select "DVD" in the Dropdown-Menu:
[*snip* URL *snip*]

Ah, I see my mistake now: The one you linked can be found under "special edition", the other three I looked at are listed as "Sci Fi" or "import".
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HAEKELDRACHE

Tuesday, January 24, 2006 3:48 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Haekeldrache:
Right now Amazon Germany has rated the Serenity Special edition DVD #168, six weeks before release.

Update: #83

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"Burn the land and boil the Sea, you can´t take the Sky from me..."

Haekeldrache is german for Crochetdragon

SWEETMIEL

Tuesday, January 24, 2006 3:57 PM

**spoiler involved**

I think a sequel to the movie would be a great idea, but I think another series is out of the question. It would have to be set after Serenity, and who could

Select to view spoiler:

last a whole series without Wash being around? It'd be so dull, he was the funny one after all...

Well, my sister's a ship. We had a complicated childhood

FLEETFOOTMIKE

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 11:12 AM

I'm kind tickled by the fact that your comment about the missing wit in any followup is followed by your signature quote, containing one of my favourite pieces of dry humour in the show. From SIMON :)

"Well, my sister's a ship. We had a complicated childhood."

HAEKELDRACHE

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 11:57 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Haekeldrache:
Quote:
Originally posted by Haekeldrache:
Right now Amazon Germany has rated the Serenity Special edition DVD #168, six weeks before release.

Update: #83

Have to Update it again, its exploding!

# 28

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"Burn the land and boil the Sea, you can´t take the Sky from me..."

Haekeldrache is german for Crochetdragon

SWEETMIEL

Thursday, January 26, 2006 10:45 AM

Ah you can't be predictable about things like that. Gotta surprise people lol!

Well, my sister's a ship. We had a complicated childhood