Alright...enough screwin' around. Let's get this series back on the air.

POSTED BY: Ph8lDiVide
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PH8LDIVIDE

Thursday, January 19, 2006 9:28 AM

OK! I loved Serenity. I thought it was good enough to order the Firefly box set. Joss's creations have always been guilty pleasures of mine and firefly will be no different. Fact of the matter is people, I want a reason to actually WANT to watch TV again. It seems any series that actually makes waves, takes initiative, or moves in a new direction gets shitcaned pretty quick. Firefly had marvelous potential, but never really got to spread its wings. Serenity only proves that if given the chance the possibilities for the series were nearly endless.

My question, ney, my challenge is this. What can we the fans due to force a network, any network, into generating so much buzz that Joss will have no choice but to rekindle the flame under firefly?

FORGOTN

Monday, January 23, 2006 6:32 AM

The problem isn't Joss not wanting to rekindle the flame it is the Goram Networks not wanting to spend the money neccasary to make the show. And as for wich Network I say that we need to start Dogging SciFi to make a new series. SciFi is the closest thing to a Fan oriented network to ever exist and they have some form of the rights since they air the first series. So if you really want to get the networks attention then we need to do some of our famous Browncoat Organization and start getting on SciFi's case. E-Mail Campaigns, Snail Mail campaigns, guerilla marketing, actually buying the stuff the advertise during the show....

KYLELITKE

Monday, January 23, 2006 6:40 AM

I absolutely despise, despise the Fox network. I flat out refuse to watch any new shows that they air because they are far too cancel-happy. Gotta make room for more of their reality crap that they stole from other networks, after all.

I don't blame other networks for being reluctant to give Firefly a chance (although I really do think Sci Fi should, and I'm not entirely clear as to why they don't appear all that interested). Sci Fi's a hard sell as it is, and most people don't know about the extenuating circumstances of Fox doing ther very best to destroy the show...they only know it's a failed show. Unfortunate? Absolutely. But I just cant blame them for being reluctant. Fox, however, I can and do blame. They chose to refuse to air the Pilot, they chose to shove the show onto their "we want to cancel this show" night and time, they chose to cancel the show almost immediately despite critical acclaim, without even giving it a chance to get an audience.

I just wish there was some way to hold Fox accountable for this. Firefly isn't even the first good show they've done this too...it just happens to be my favorite.

Good thing for fans of the shows that Seinfeld and Friends weren't on Fox. They probably would have been cancelled immediately. I still have no clue how Arrested Development lasted as long as it did.

KYLELITKE

Monday, January 23, 2006 6:42 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by ForgotN:
The problem isn't Joss not wanting to rekindle the flame it is the Goram Networks not wanting to spend the money neccasary to make the show. And as for wich Network I say that we need to start Dogging SciFi to make a new series. SciFi is the closest thing to a Fan oriented network to ever exist and they have some form of the rights since they air the first series. So if you really want to get the networks attention then we need to do some of our famous Browncoat Organization and start getting on SciFi's case. E-Mail Campaigns, Snail Mail campaigns, guerilla marketing, actually buying the stuff the advertise during the show....

Agreed. And it pretty much has to be the Sci Fi network. I just don't see any of the other networks actually giving it a shot under present circumstances.

DARKDELACROIX

Monday, January 23, 2006 8:07 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by KyleLitke:
Quote:
Originally posted by ForgotN:
The problem isn't Joss not wanting to rekindle the flame it is the Goram Networks not wanting to spend the money neccasary to make the show. And as for wich Network I say that we need to start Dogging SciFi to make a new series. SciFi is the closest thing to a Fan oriented network to ever exist and they have some form of the rights since they air the first series. So if you really want to get the networks attention then we need to do some of our famous Browncoat Organization and start getting on SciFi's case. E-Mail Campaigns, Snail Mail campaigns, guerilla marketing, actually buying the stuff the advertise during the show....

Agreed. And it pretty much has to be the Sci Fi network. I just don't see any of the other networks actually giving it a shot under present circumstances.

i second that notion..im just mad that the "present circumstances" arent good enough for these people at networks.. Serenity and Firefly are 4 and 5 on amazon.com's top sellers list and have been for days, if not weeks and were higher up.

Kaylee: Everyone's got somebody. Wash, tell me I'm pretty.
Wash: Were I unwed, I would take you in a manly fashion.
Kaylee: 'Cause I'm pretty?
Wash: 'Cause you're pretty.

PH8LDIVIDE

Monday, January 23, 2006 3:06 PM

I would have to agree. SciFi channel seems like the most likely candidate. So now what?

PH8LDIVIDE

Monday, January 23, 2006 3:12 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Ph8lDiVide:
OK! I loved Serenity. I thought it was good enough to order the Firefly box set. Joss's creations have always been guilty pleasures of mine and firefly will be no different. Fact of the matter is people, I want a reason to actually WANT to watch TV again. It seems any series that actually makes waves, takes initiative, or moves in a new direction gets shitcaned pretty quick. Firefly had marvelous potential, but never really got to spread its wings. Serenity only proves that if given the chance the possibilities for the series were nearly endless.

My question, ney, my challenge is this. What can we the fans due to force a network, any network, into generating so much buzz that Joss will have no choice but to rekindle the flame under firefly?

I would have to agree. SciFi channel seems like the most likely candidate. So now what?

SHINEY777

Monday, January 23, 2006 4:46 PM

Let's get some addresses and e-mail addresses and start sending all kinds of mail their way. If needs to be non-stop, relentless and passionate. I'm at work right now, but when I get home, I'll try to come up with a form letter, and post it here to be copied. Although I do feel that individual plees for the show would be more dramatic than just a ffrom letter being sent over and over again.
They will suffer us - what say you!

SCOUSERATHEART

Monday, January 23, 2006 5:28 PM

What about HBO??? Sopranos are coming to an end, they like edgy stuff with lowish ratings????

I'd think they'd like a show like Firefly????

PH8LDIVIDE

Monday, January 23, 2006 5:52 PM

That's the spirit! If we can get things organized I'm gonna post this on the main forum. Keep me posted.

Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war! -- "William Shakespear's Julius Ceaser"

PH8LDIVIDE

Monday, January 23, 2006 5:54 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by scouseratheart:
What about HBO??? Sopranos are coming to an end, they like edgy stuff with lowish ratings????

I'd think they'd like a show like Firefly????

The only problem with that is the exposure will be limited to HBO subscribers only. We need a network which has to compete directly with other prime time networks.

FRANKIE

Monday, January 23, 2006 6:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Ph8lDiVide:
Quote:
Originally posted by scouseratheart:
What about HBO??? Sopranos are coming to an end, they like edgy stuff with lowish ratings????

I'd think they'd like a show like Firefly????

The only problem with that is the exposure will be limited to HBO subscribers only. We need a network which has to compete directly with other prime time networks.

You have a point, but I think it would be best to keep all of our options open. If we're going to flood one network with letters, why not flood two... why not flood 'em all?

(I'm about to do something very silly and disagree with myself)

On the other hand, it's probably best for us to keep focused. If we don't have one main goal, such as "get SciFi to pick up Firefly," our actions, no matter how many, will be scattered and random. There are a lot of us, and the most effective way will be to make sure that we're all working together, and not going off on totally random tangents.

So.... while, yes, I think it would be good to consider HBO as a possibility, we probably should focus on one network, at least for the time being, and that network may as well be SciFi.

_______________________________________

this is the captain. we have a little problem with our entry sequence, so we may experience some slight turbulence and then... explode.

GRIMJACK21502

Monday, January 23, 2006 6:23 PM

I agree.

Let's focus on Sci-Fi.

I hold a slightly different opinion of Firefly's current state. I know there are tv execs out there watching the DVD sales (both series and BDM) and are simply waiting for the magic number (where profitability is a guarantee) before they make their move. Believe me there will be a network that will inquire about relighting the Firefly (built in fan base, existing cast, critical accliam, awesome creator). My only concern is that Joss will be on another project, and if that is the case, I think it is time for Tim Minear to fly solo.

Long story longer, pressure Sci-Fi (other networks will hear about it as well) and keep buying BDM and series copies (boosting sales and recruiting new "pesky fans").

Post those addresses for Sci-Fi and let the battle for Serenity Valley begin!

"And once you're gone, you can never come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black"
-Neil Young

BBOOD20

Monday, January 23, 2006 7:00 PM

Check out this website...
http://www.fireflyseason2.com/Index.asp

I don't know if this is some kind of cruel joke or a hallucination brought on by months of Firefly fever; but if it is legit, I advise all of you to fill out the survey on that website. I was unable to find the author of the website. Whoever is running the website eludes to a second season of Firefly in a variety of formats..

The Firefly Season 2 Project:
Captain Mal and the crew of Serenity need your help to stay flying. The Network "Alliance" wants to deny us of our beloved show, so the battle has begun.

We are looking to push the envelope of episodic television by offering Season Two of Firefly in a groundbreaking new format. Each episode (or the entire season) will be available for purchase in Standard or Hi-Definition.

Subscribers may choose one of three playback options; monthly DVD deliveries, TV On-Demand using your cable or satellite provider, or computer viewing via Streaming Download.

In order for our fight to be successful, we first need to take stock of the browncoat recruits that support our cause. It will only take a minute, is strictly confidential, and each profile will take the independents one step closer to victory!

???

BBOOD20

Monday, January 23, 2006 7:05 PM

Just relayin a post on whedonesque.com...
Don't start gettin excited because there has been no official word on this yet

FRANKIE

Monday, January 23, 2006 7:11 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by bbood20:
Check out this website...
http://www.fireflyseason2.com/Index.asp

I went to the site, and filled out the form. I'm not entierly sure it's legit, but it's a very cool idea. In the event there is no network willing to take Firefly, new technology is creating so many new ways to broadcast video. If we pay by the episode, whether online, pay-per view, or through some kind of DVD delivery system, I'm pretty sure there are enough people buying in to support it. Personally I'm pretty sure this is the future of entertainment anyways. Networks just slow things down with all of their redtape.

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this is the captain. we have a little problem with our entry sequence, so we may experience some slight turbulence and then... explode.

GRIMJACK21502

Monday, January 23, 2006 7:28 PM

I registered at the site. It doesn't ask any specific info, so it seems fairly safe.

Not to sound like a brainwashed fanboy (but I will anyway). Sometimes networks/studios hire 3rd party independent production companies to run surveys to ascertain the feasibilty of a certain project (in this case Firefly).

While the format suggested is interesting, I think this may be a fact finding endeavor by a network wanting to air our BDH.

Just a theory...based in a little fact ;)

"And once you're gone, you can never come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black"
-Neil Young

SHINEY777

Monday, January 23, 2006 11:14 PM

Just in case, I'm still working on the heartfelt form letter. I should have it here by tomorrow morning.
Is it sick to say that I don't think life is worth living without Firefly? Just a question!

FOLLOWMAL

Monday, January 23, 2006 11:18 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Shiney777:
Is it sick to say that I don't think life is worth living without Firefly? Just a question!

Nope, we're all right there with you in this obsession... I mean, fandom. Actually, I mean love.

" I start fighting a war, I guarantee you'll see something new. " Mal

FANDENSKRIGERE

Monday, January 23, 2006 11:22 PM

new to the community.
recieved the box set for christmas, and I must say that I was sceptical at first, but fell in love with the crew of "Serenity", as I found a bit of myself in each.
I hear that the problem with the series' initial sucess is due to it's airing during baseball season, when that was all anyone cared to watch. I had wanted to catch it, but never did. So, i've been reunited thanks to my sister.
sci-fi should at least re-run the series, seeing as how they've aired the first 30 seasons of Stargate SG-1 about 80 times now.
Corporate America:
because I'm going to be a millionaire by age 21.

SERENITYFOREVER

Tuesday, January 24, 2006 12:05 AM

At this point, letter-writing campaigns aren't going to do any good. If you're going to focus your energy on resurrecting the series, you have to deal in the only currency that studio executives understand: uhm... currency. When the fan support and the growing fan base is seen to translate into $, there is no way anyone will be able to keep it OFF the air.

Buy the DVD for a friend. Buy it for family. Talk it up. It's the only language they'll understand.

_____________________________
Newbie Fan (Since Jan, 2006)
DVD Series given as gifts: 4
DVD Movies given as gifts: 4
Browncoat converts to date: 1
You can't stop the signal.

FORGOTN

Tuesday, January 24, 2006 8:02 AM

We as the fans can't just feed money directly into the networks pockets. It just doesn't work that way. Like it or not we have very little control over things. Joss is still captin of this boat. All we can do is the fan thing and do it very very well. Letter writing campaigns are our best tool in resurecting the Verse. This is taken directly off of SciFi's website

SCI FI CHANNEL: If you have suggestions or comments for our Programming Department about the SCI FI Channel or any of its shows, please contact: feedback@scifi.com

So apparently they do listen to fan letters. (Okay that is the same address that they have you send ANY kind of feedback but at least it is an address) Im not saying that this is our only hope but it is something to work on. We can start with individual e-mails and add a form letter spam storm when one is posted (Im sure somebody else can do that better then me. CNAs don 't do paper work) Ill post a snail mail address soon as I find one.

Side note: everybody, EVERYBODY, needs to buy the BDS, BDM, BDM novelization, the soundtrack(s), all of the comics, and any other OFFICIAL merch you can find. lets reach us that afore mentioned magic marketing number sooner rather than later.

FORGOTN

Tuesday, January 24, 2006 8:14 AM

Okay people, here is some SciFi Info.

Address:
Sci-Fi Channel USA
1230 Avenue of the Americas
New York, NY
10020

Email:
feedback@scifi.com
program@scifi.com

Home Page
http://www.scifi.com

Also, another point of intrest, SciFi.com has there own BBoard. It might be a good idea to get everybody here to register there and start chatting up about our beloved Verse. If there own site is clogged with Firefly fans then they have to know that we exist. And that we like them. Just a thought.

SUBTORPMAN

Tuesday, January 24, 2006 10:01 AM

Great thread, I sent an email to SCI FI yesterday and filled out the survey three days ago. Tonight I will have my wife do the same under her email address. This weekend my friends are visiting and I will have them do the same. THE BATTLE IS ON!

DHEROOFCANTON

Tuesday, January 24, 2006 11:11 AM

I just sent a nice long email to the sci-fi boys, i made sure to mention where i was from, just give them an idea that its not just in the states the show is popular, Im from Dublin, Ireland and HMV on Grafton Street which is a big shopping street in Ireland, has a few shelves full of the series and has had it readily in stock over the christmas period, its right at them front of the store with all the really popular dvds and good deals, so its got to be selling well!!Just wait until they release the movie on dvd...roll on 27th Feb!!!

SHINEY777

Tuesday, January 24, 2006 1:10 PM

Okay,
Here is my version of a form letter. I'm not a writer, so don't laugh. Well, do what you will, it's not like I can hear you!
Doll it up all you want.

Browncoats Unite!

Dear Sci-Fi,

The loyal fans of the hit TV Series Firefly, and movie Serenity are in need of your help. As you know, the rights to our show are still owned by Fox. This is no type of home for a show with so many Sci-Fi fans.

Yours is the only venue today for quality Science Fiction, and Firefly is the epitome of a quality Sci-Fi show, dare I say, that it is exactly what Sci-Fi should be. Browncoats across the globe are uniting to re-light Firefly and find it a new, safe haven. The Sci-Fi network is the obvious choice.

We are hoping that you will see the potential, (and profit), in taking up Firefly for many more seasons. This show was never even given a chance to get an audience, and yet it now has a huge fan base; a fan base that now looks to you, to do the right thing. We implore you, give us back our sky, and make Firefly a part of your family, just as we have.

Help us Sci-Fi Network, you’re only hope!

Sincerely,

The Loyal Fans of Firefly
(Individuals would sign here, and place any personal comments in this spot).

FLETCH2

Tuesday, January 24, 2006 1:46 PM

Don't know that they would be that responsive. Scifi has a history of cancelling shows almost as long as Fox's, the Farscape people had 5 seasons on SciFi, good ratings and coproduction deals lined up in Europe and Australia to share costs and SciFi still axed them.

Hate to say it but I think the series boat sailed a long time ago. Had SciFi been interested they would have picked the show up when Joss offered it to them. Back then production offices were open, writers and actors were still under contract and the sets still existed at Fox Television. THAT was the time when they could have got the show cheap. Now they will need to buy rights from Fox probably pay Universal Pictures for their sets (or make Serenity Mk3) and negociate new deals with the BDM's and Joss, Tim and co.

The only reason SciFi showed Firefly was to promote Serenity now that's done don't expect them to go make a series. I think we need to talk to Universal about direct to DVD movies. That would work and SciFi would screen those if someone else in the organisation made them.

CERIL

Tuesday, January 24, 2006 2:34 PM

Im new to the 'verse. just picked up the firelfy and serenity dvds this weekend.. but what are BDS, BDM, BDM novelization?? im lookin into getting the comics, if i can find them and would gladly buy any merchadise to help the cause. I owuld love for this show to return in one form or another.. Its one of the most original shows ive seen in a LONG time.. Thanks

FORGOTN

Tuesday, January 24, 2006 5:23 PM

BDS = Big Damn Series
BDM = Big Damn Movie
BDH = Big Damn Heroes

Welcome to the Verse!

Back on topic. Im not saying that a series is the most likely answer to our plight, Im not even convinced myself that it is a viable option, but the most important thing is that we keep fighting so that the rest of the world knows were here and that we mean busisness. We have to make a stand somewere and SciFi is as good a place as any. This might turn out to be a repeat of the Battle for Serenity Valley but Big Deal. We need to do something, anything, to keep Joss's dream alive. And the only way that anybody is going to know that we mean business, that we our an organized group of fans, who aren't just going to fall victim to the whims of the gorram blue handed Fox Execs, is to Fight Back. We have done the impossible folks and that makes us mighty, to quote a very wise man. We are the first group of fans to EVER get a feature length film made out of a TV show that was cancelled after half a season. If we can do that then we can do ANYTHING, just as long as we don't give up. The Browncoats lost the unification war due to superior numbers, well, that aint exactly a problem anymore folks.

Keep Flyin'

MEIMEIMEG

Tuesday, January 24, 2006 5:38 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SerenityForever:
At this point, letter-writing campaigns aren't going to do any good. If you're going to focus your energy on resurrecting the series, you have to deal in the only currency that studio executives understand: uhm... currency. When the fan support and the growing fan base is seen to translate into $, there is no way anyone will be able to keep it OFF the air.

Buy the DVD for a friend. Buy it for family. Talk it up. It's the only language they'll understand.

B]

I agree with this. Letter-writing is all well and good (and we as Browncoats do need to be exploring EVERY option available to us), but the real key always was and always will be the sales of the DVDs and merchandise. We need to spread the word to any who will listen. (And try not to sound so much like the crazed fans we are ) We need to buy as many copies of the BDM as we can afford, for gifts or donation copies to libraries, whatever. Next time you go to a video store, recommend it to a complete stranger who looks unsure about what to get. (I've done this - it actually works! I was giddy after I saw the guy renting it). Creating a bigger fan base is how this is going to take off. I can almost see the sequel now.... Shiny.

MALFORPRESIDENT

Tuesday, January 24, 2006 5:47 PM

Okay, so...just a thought. What if we were to set up a organized fund to buy Serenity for orphaned teenagers or something. You know... we could slap some kind of charity name on the DVD like "A family on board" or something like that. It would raise awareness as well as applying DVD sales to our total. Maybe we could even get stars of the show to come out... Tell me what you guys think.

TANSTAAFL28

Tuesday, January 24, 2006 6:40 PM

Many of us have done this. I think we'd have to coordinate our efforts in order to maximize the results.

"You can't take the sky from me..."

FLIPDOG

Tuesday, January 24, 2006 7:08 PM

Everyone seems to be forgetting one of the most important factors to getting a show back on the air. Its not just write some letters and lickity-split looky looky Firefly is back. There's tons of red tape to sift through, the biggest obstacle being Sci-Fi would have to buy the rights to the show from Fox. And with so much public support, they're not going to let it go for a very long time. There's so much law requirements within the media aspect that it would cost more to simply buy the show than produce half a season.

You really want to get something done? Start writing (non-threatening) letters to Fox.

SHINEY777

Tuesday, January 24, 2006 10:31 PM

I like that you reminded us of the non-threatening part. I think we all tend to get a little whimsical in te brainpan, when it comes to Fox.

SHINEY777

Tuesday, January 24, 2006 11:00 PM

I do agree Flipdog! We need to get organized and get the word out. If we are to be united, it needs to be under one roof. Call me bias, I haven't been here long, but I love this forem. It looks better, is more user friendly, and has the best fans than any other site out there. We need to get a good form letter going (better than what I wrote up there), and why not two; one to Fox, and one to Sci-fi, that are easily assessible. Then we need to go and spread the word in all the other forems out there, and bring them under this roof, for this part of the campaign.

WASHDOC

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 12:22 AM

Hey,
I just saw where UPN and WB are joining together to form one network called CW. They still have a lot of programming to fill. How can we get them to look at doing Firefly?

AUNTYCHRIS

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 12:42 AM

No no no, not HBO. I don't have those channels, and don't know anyone who does. It's got to be SciFi or some other regular cable channel. Let's flood SciFi ( or maybe...Fox?!?!?) with e-mails (or snail mail), letting them know how important bringing back our Firefly is!!!

PH8LDIVIDE

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 12:50 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Shiney777:
Just in case, I'm still working on the heartfelt form letter. I should have it here by tomorrow morning.
Is it sick to say that I don't think life is worth living without Firefly? Just a question!

Not at all.

DRUIDESS

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 1:03 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Shiney777:

Is it sick to say that I don't think life is worth living without Firefly?

Good god, I hope not!

"The world's divided into two groups, panda's and alligator boys."

PH8LDIVIDE

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 1:12 AM

Alright ladies and gentlemen, let's look at our options. First, we need a group to go to all of those various browncoat sites and get these people on here pronto. Remember organization is our biggest weapon. Second, SciFi does seem to be our most viable option, but we should definitely consider the upcoming CW network as well. We need to carpetbomb both networks, but we need to make Fox "want" to give up the rights to Firefly. Now if anyone has any idea on how to pull off that last part I'd love to hear it. For instance if everyone stopped buying Fox DVD box sets would they make or lose money by holding the rights to Firefly in a death grip? Good work on that form letter Shiney777.

"It's love that keeps her in the air even when she shouldn't fly."

DRUIDESS

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 1:27 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by FlipDog:
Everyone seems to be forgetting one of the most important factors to getting a show back on the air. Its not just write some letters and lickity-split looky looky Firefly is back. There's tons of red tape to sift through, the biggest obstacle being Sci-Fi would have to buy the rights to the show from Fox. And with so much public support, they're not going to let it go for a very long time. There's so much law requirements within the media aspect that it would cost more to simply buy the show than produce half a season.

You really want to get something done? Start writing (non-threatening) letters to Fox.

Having a central focus is how we get a collective effort. I'm not so sure it matters which network, as long as we're in it together.

As far as obstacles the network will face, they aren't our problem. We don't work there or, for most of us, know how it works. It's not our problem and solving it doesn't need to be our goal. It's for the network to figure out (that's what they do). It's for us to make them want to. That's it.

I think whatever we choose to do is beneficial, personally, because we're not done fighting. Whatever the outcome, we're just not done.

"The world's divided into two groups, panda's and alligator boys."

SHINEY777

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 1:38 AM

"We need to carpetbomb both networks, but we need to make Fox "want" to give up the rights to Firefly. Now if anyone has any idea on how to pull off that last part I'd love to hear it."

I guess that whole 'horse head in the bed' thing would be a little over the top. I will hit some of the other forems tonight and tomorrow. I'll keep track, and get a running list to put up, so we aren't all hitting the same ones; although I think a little over kill won't hurt. Should I direct them to this thread, or will something special be made up for this?

PH8LDIVIDE

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 1:47 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Shiney777:
"We need to carpetbomb both networks, but we need to make Fox "want" to give up the rights to Firefly. Now if anyone has any idea on how to pull off that last part I'd love to hear it."

I guess that whole 'horse head in the bed' thing would be a little over the top. I will hit some of the other forems tonight and tomorrow. I'll keep track, and get a running list to put up, so we aren't all hitting the same ones; although I think a little over kill won't hurt. Should I direct them to this thread, or will something special be made up for this?

I think that this is called Fireflyfans.net for a reason. This is the place where all of the true fans should be coming to anyway. There is no such thing as overkill. Direct them to this thread and let the numbers in it spell the rebirth of our once and soon to be agian fantastic series.

P.S. No horse's head. Bad Shiney777! *smacks on hand*

SHINEY777

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 2:07 AM

Will do!

Really, no horse's head?

I actually love horses. Maybe a hobby horse head with some runny ketchup!

FLIPDOG

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 2:40 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Shiney777:
I like that you reminded us of the non-threatening part. I think we all tend to get a little whimsical in te brainpan, when it comes to Fox.

No worries...everything's shiny. I also agree about the united stuff. But it needs to be coherent and not fall off the front of the boards so quickly. Like my other thread, there's too much gossip going on for anything important to stay up for long. So, heck, I'll follow along and offer help when needed. I'm decently versed in the realm of media law. So, if you want opinion and stuff, maybe we should start a specific thread for only ideas.

SIFI

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 3:15 AM

I agree. Make a petition and I will gladly sign it.

I like Firefly a lot

ELYAM

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 3:15 AM

I think the best strategy would be to first start boycotting Fox Network...which isn't really hard to do because that network friggen sucks. The hard part of this is letting Fox know that they are being fought against and having enough people to do it.

Once this happens, that is when pressure is put onto Sci-Fi. I do not know all the legal matters in this, I am not a lawyer, but I would think that if enough people talked about this show, bought the merchandise, email spams both sci-fi and Fox...then we might see something happen.

Waves always start as ripples.

ZOEHASZEN

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 8:08 AM

I'm so happy about this thread! Some websites tend to be a bit cynical and doubt that we can get anything accomplished. But I agree that a multi-front campaign will be effective as long as it's a focused and united effort.

We don't need to start our own petition. There are several on Petitionspot.com. One in particular already has thousands of signatures and the signers are sincere and eloquent:
( http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/revivefirefly)
The petition originator initially suggested HBO, but amended his intro to address any network. I think this is worth supporting as one avenue, even though I'm not sure what will be done with the petition. But it can always be pointed to for backing up our point.

I'm also going to write to Sci-Fi and WB. After participating in many letter campaigns to our State legislature I know that letters work with politicians, so why not with networks? Personal appeals are preferable to form letters, but form letters are a zillion times better than no letters.

Then there's the FireflySeason2 website as another avenue. I'm going to support that effort, even though it's only in the beginning stages and sounds very ambitious.

Quote:
Originally posted by Elyam:
I think the best strategy would be to first start boycotting Fox Network...which isn't really hard to do because that network friggen sucks. The hard part of this is letting Fox know that they are being fought against and having enough people to do it.

The way I understand it, 21st Century Fox are the good guys (who worked with Joss and put out our beloved DVD set), and they are the parent company of the bad guys, Fox Network. Fox Network canceled the show, but I'm pretty sure 21st Century Fox holds the rights. So IMHO we don't gain much by making Fox mad.

Well, I'm off to think on my charming and convincing letter to the Sci-Fi guys. Sorry for the long post!

ZOEHASZEN

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 8:28 AM

Have you seen this, posted on whedonesque?
Maureen Ryan of the Chicago Tribune thinks along the same lines:

http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2006/01/the_n
ew_cw_netw.html

DHEROOFCANTON

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 12:03 PM

Is there any way we can get this thread to stay on the front page...kinda like a feature thread for our latest campaign, for all fans to read and get involved with? Who is the administrator for the site and how do we get in touch, to get him onboard? The more organised our efforts the better.

SHINEY777

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 12:25 PM

Thanks ZOEHASZEN for the info! I also feel this site is much more uplifting and supportive of the cause.
I also agree that personal plees are better, but a form letter allows those who don't have the time to help out quickly and conveniently, and we want all of the fans to participate.
Let us know what you come up with.

SHINEY777

Wednesday, January 25, 2006 11:24 PM

All right folks, I've been poking around out there, and there are alot of Firefly sites, but none of them are mounting any kind of counter attack.
I'm with DHEROOFCANTON, we need to get the administrator on board. We need a centralized location as our base. I wish I new more about the web, I would link up to this site and have a separate counter attack location for the letters and addresses to be accessed. But I'm kina like Jayne when it comes to da innernet!

SHINEY777

Thursday, January 26, 2006 9:56 PM

Hello Again!
The word is out there! It has also been suggested that lettrs be written to Mr. Wheadon to keep his hopes up as well. I think that's a kind idea.
How about you!

SERENA777

Friday, January 27, 2006 2:37 PM

Shiney 777

You are the man! (or the woman!)

Get those addresses and I'll be writing - emailing my little heart out!!

you said form -- it sounds cheesey but maybe
we can get it on brown paper

or have it in the form of a "coat"

or seomething that at a glance - they any anyone
who see's it know what its about and who its from.

(THe best thing to do is on a post card -its open
people see it and - are there postcards
made of firefly??? or can those be done?

what do ya think?

SERENA777

Friday, January 27, 2006 2:42 PM

Shiney _ I don't think we have to get FOx to give up the "rights"

Si Fi channel is airing Firefly so they have
"bought" enough rights already

that's how Joss could do Serenity with the same
people and stuff

just not the song and the firely name

there has to be a Different Title of the series,
a new song but same characters etc.

Joss is the creator - he can use those characters

*the propblem is Does Joss Want this to continue?

He is the one to start it.

I am all for "softening up" the networks by
a letter campain but we are dead in the water
if Joss doesn't have the heart to re-do this

SERENA777

Friday, January 27, 2006 2:46 PM

Shiney 777

Its a great idea to let JOss know how we feel

I think he was dissappointed about the movie
not being a runaway hit -- but is more confident
now that the serenity DVD's are doing so well.

How can a "We love Firefly/Serenity please bring it back!! - letter writing campain go wrong??

Hey, which City does Joss live in?

Maybe we should post full-paage newspaper ads
and/or billboards on the major higways into
"hollywood"??

SERENA777

Friday, January 27, 2006 2:54 PM

Flip dog

you good at media law?

its correct what i said, right

as the Creator of the series - Joss can take
a "new series" anywhere
with a different title and song

or has there been new laws that state he
can't? my info a bit old

or when si fi aired it - did fox give up those "rights"

or does it depend on the contract?

SERENA777

Friday, January 27, 2006 3:15 PM

re: firefly season2

I don't know - it sounds like it could be a rip off - not sure but truly I've never done
pay per view -

kids like the guy/gal who keeps asking howmuch money are you willing to give to firefly

-and I'll way what I said

I TRULY THINK THERE IS ENOUGH MONEY OUT THERE
THE Q IS WILL JOSS START THE BALL ROLLING?

(I truly believe that there is enough interest
in serenity to get a series out of Si Fi without too much of a problem but it won't be handed to Joss - he and his team will have to "work" for it --and again it all boils down to --Does Joss want to do this!!! )

OLDFOGEY

Friday, January 27, 2006 3:44 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by serena777:
re: firefly season2

...WILL JOSS START THE BALL ROLLING?
(I truly believe...

Repeat same until blue in face.
Breathe.
Repeat same until blue in face...

SHINEY777

Friday, January 27, 2006 6:17 PM

Serena777,
It's woman, and thanks. My thoughts are that Fox owns the first season of Firefly and the Firefly name. I believe that Sci-Fi could start a Serenity series if they wanted to.
I love the postcard idea. Cafepress.com can help with that, you can make your own. I don't know what the cost would be. Might be cheaper to get 5-10 different ones made up, and have a local printer copy them for us in bulk to get a better discount.
I'm at work right now, but in a few hours I'll be home and I'll start searching!
I agree, it's Joss's call. He needs us now more than ever. I was going to send him something like this:

Dear Mr. Wheadon,

Good Day, and hello. I would first like to thank you for all of the wonderful programming you have brought to all of your fans over the years. I hope you know how appreciated you are, and how much your creativity and zest for human folly have meant to all of us.

I am a thirty-something fan, I work full time, and I am working on a Bachelor’s Degree part time. When I get a chance to relax, and watch some TV, it’s nice to be able to watch a quality program, which of course, there aren’t anymore, unless you are lucky enough to catch a rerun of one of your shows.

I have been reading articles about Firefly, my favorite of all your work. I have been reading about how tired you are, and how hard it was to make and to sell. I have also read that you may have given up on ever returning it to the small screen. I can certainly understand your fatigue, as genius can be exhausting. (And that’s sincere, not kissing ass). But I implore you, please don’t give up hope. Browncoats everywhere are uniting, and assimilating new members. Our numbers are growing. Firefly is by far the best entertainment creation of all time, with the absolute perfect cast. It’s very unfortunate that the people with the power to re-light it, are so short on vision.

Your fans aren’t giving up, and although we will support you in any endevour, we hope that you will keep the fight for Firefly alive, despite your frustration and fatigue. We are behind you, no matter what.

Sincerely,

Let me know what you think. PH8LDIVIDE has a knack for letter writing. He might be better at this type of thing.

AKALIGHTNINGBUG

Friday, January 27, 2006 10:53 PM

A giant thank you note/we need more letter to Joss is a great idea, but for it to work it needs to be really well organize, almost like a petition, 1 writer thousand of signatures and then find a way to e-mail it to him.... has anyone considered how awesome a really good, animated series/movie woul be?.. same cast with joss whedon and either genndy tartakovsky(SW: Clone wars, samurai jack) or bruce timm(Batman TAS, Justice league) would be?!?!... i mean i'd certainly rather have a sci-fi cahnnael mni, or a direct to dvd or theatrical movie, or you know the holy grail SERENITY:THE SERIES.. but animated could be fun.

I'm a leaf on the wind

SHINEY777

Saturday, January 28, 2006 12:38 AM

I'm working on the organization part. You know, life and stuff getting in the way!
I think we have all of the e-mail and snail addresses we need throughout this thread and some others. We just need to get all of the info in one localized place, and that is what I'm working on.
Until then, we need to spread the spirit, I feel it's a little low!

FORGOTN

Saturday, January 28, 2006 3:16 AM

Hey people, One good thing today is that SciFi is giving Firefly some press coverage. So we must be creating some sort of buzz.

And on the Joss letters thing. Wr. Wheadon is very busy with Wonder Woman and all the comics he is putting out. He is currently working on a Buffy miniseries, an Angle miniseries, a Spike miniseries, a Past-Slayers mini series, a Future slayer (mini)series, and Astonishing X-Men Monthlys. Honestly, I think he is taking a break from the Verse for a little while. What we need to do is keep up the Buzz so that the market is ready when he feels that he can put his all in another Firefly related product. Be that Movies, TV, or Something entirely different.

That being said I am 100% with a moral support mail campaign from Browncoats across the world. I think that it might be a boost to his spirit to see how many diffrent Browncoats from around the world still love his creation. And I love the custom Firefly/Serenity postcard idea. But I am unwilling to put my 2 through the USPS so we are going to need a replenishable supply.

Ok Browncoat- Spearding the signal in the vast empty nothingness

DARKDELACROIX

Monday, January 30, 2006 2:32 AM

i just made my 7 closest friends watch the whole series and movie with me, 7 more fans to aid us :P

also, sent out some emails, hopfully people in the right places are reading all these emails.

cant stop the signal

Kaylee: Everyone's got somebody. Wash, tell me I'm pretty.
Wash: Were I unwed, I would take you in a manly fashion.
Kaylee: 'Cause I'm pretty?
Wash: 'Cause you're pretty.

HALFBREEDINKC

Monday, January 30, 2006 2:52 AM

I agree with getting Firefly back on the air, with Joss having TOTAL creative control, and no interference from the ases that be...oops I meant powers-that-be.

Just my 2cents on this. If memory serves, Sci-Fi is owned by USA Networks (again, if memory serves...and it doesn't always). So going after Sci-Fi may be beatin' your head against a really big wall - we need to find out what the PARENT network is and go to THEM!

Anyone else out there know anything about this?

HalfBreedinKC

"They don't like it when you shoot at 'em, I worked that out myself"

DARKDELACROIX

Monday, January 30, 2006 6:06 AM

Quote:
Just my 2cents on this. If memory serves, Sci-Fi is owned by USA Networks (again, if memory serves...and it doesn't always). So going after Sci-Fi may be beatin' your head against a really big wall - we need to find out what the PARENT network is and go to THEM!

Anyone else out there know anything about this?

(dont shoot the messenger, i did look at about 5 different websites to make sure this is correct, but they may have been the wrong 5)

Sci Fi, USA and Universal Pictures (also Bravo) are owned by NBC

and my boyfriend and i were just talking about that :P

PBI

Tuesday, January 31, 2006 3:50 AM

And NBC is owned by GE.

Let's not get too far afield. Concentrate on Sci-Fi, they make the decisions at their level. Though, from my perspective, I'd love to see the thing on HBO, as it will then most likely make the jump to TMN up here in Canada and from their to TV, just like the Sporanos did and a TMN-produced show, ReGenesis, and with almost all of the naughty bits included, too :)

If you can survive death, you can probably survive almost anything.

MASTERREGAL

Tuesday, January 31, 2006 4:13 AM

Well... lets take this thing into high gear people.

Few questions, as I am new here:
How many Browncoats are there?
And is there an e-mail address or snail maild address I could use to mail Joss Whedon?

DARKDELACROIX

Tuesday, January 31, 2006 8:59 AM

there are many Browncoats.. but the email and snail mail addresses i dont know, and am wondering the same thing

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Kaylee: Everyone's got somebody. Wash, tell me I'm pretty.
Wash: Were I unwed, I would take you in a manly fashion.
Kaylee: 'Cause I'm pretty?
Wash: 'Cause you're pretty.

GRENDEL824

Tuesday, January 31, 2006 11:12 AM

It would also help to spell Whedon's name right (not Wheadon)...

PEARLY056

Wednesday, March 8, 2006 8:59 PM

My husband bought Serenity and we have watched it many times before we discovered Firefly. There were a lot of unanswered questions in Serenity. Since we don't watch commercial television at all, it was amazing to find such a wonderful "Gunsmoke/Star Trek/Science fiction, funny and very serious, well acted series. I really don't understand why it was canceled. Yes, let's get it back on the air.

PH8LDIVIDE

Thursday, March 9, 2006 4:57 AM

What's up home chickens?

Yes, I know I haven't posted anything on here in a long time, but I'm a more than full-time student currently enrolled in two colleges simultaneously. Get off my back.

It seems as though we are headed in the right direction, and I can't tell you how pleased I am with how much everyone has been doing. I just wanted to drop in and say thanks to all of you who heard my call to arms and have decided to step up to the challenge. Keep up the great work!

I have no intention of abandoning the forum that I started. I hope to become more active again when things aren't so crazy. Again, great job everybody. Let's keep the torch lit and make that sucker burn so bright that TV networks in other countries will offer us a network just to shut us up. Think of it, the all Joss network. All Joss all the time, heaven.

P.S. Just kidding Joss.

P.S.S. Joss, get Firefly put back on. I'm putting a digital warp in the box set, and I will soon need another.