Lucas rips Whedon?

POSTED BY: rklenseth
UPDATED: Friday, February 10, 2006 13:13
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RKLENSETH

Sunday, February 5, 2006 3:53 AM

According to posts I've been reading at IMdB, George Lucas ripped on Serenity and Firefly and Whedon calling them bargain bin trash. The posters provide no link but said it was in an interview featured on www.supershadow.com.

Does anyone know if this is true? Has anyone actually seen this article or interview?

Oh, and play Cantr II at www.cantr.net.

SMOOF

Sunday, February 5, 2006 4:05 AM

Jar-Jar Binks?

SNAP

Sunday, February 5, 2006 4:08 AM

Dear Mr. Lucas, I love all your movies. I was wondering if you have ever seen the movie Serenity written and directed by Joss Whedon? Many critics compare it to the Star Wars Prequels and how much better it is. "It is the best sci-fi movie I've seen since The Empire Strikes Back." I was wondering how you felt about the movie, did you like it?

George Lucas: The best way to judge how could science fiction films are is to examine their box-office earnings. Serenity took in a weak $ 25 million dollars in North America. Revenge of the Sith crushed this figure with earnings toppling over $ 380 million dollars. Hence, Star Wars is fifteen times more popular that the hack work produced by Whedon.

All of Whedon’s TV shows can be found in the bargain basement bin for DVD’s. Buffy - The Vampire Slayer, Firefly and Angel can be bought for $ 10 bucks for the entire season run. Anti-popular is the way I describe it. All and all, Serenity is just another piece of crap in the wall. That will surely drive you insane.

umm... asshole.

SNAP

Sunday, February 5, 2006 4:08 AM

Found here BTW:

http://www.supershadows.com/george_lucas/interview/15.html

RKLENSETH

Sunday, February 5, 2006 4:15 AM

Thanks.

Wow, that is pretty harsh especially coming from the man who wrote Episodes 1 through 3.

Is this interview actually credible? It looks made up to me. Like someone was writing it from pure fiction rather than an actual interview. I don't want to brand someone with something they didn't even said.

But if Lucas did say this well then...We'll have to do something about that.

Oh, and play Cantr II at www.cantr.net.

SMOOF

Sunday, February 5, 2006 4:17 AM

Honestly, I USED to enjoy the first three SW. But I've really had a distaste for it since all of the marketing hype and whatnot. It's become a huge name that's slapped around (Burger King) to make millions.

After reading that, I knew I already hated Lucas, but now I hate him even more. Lucas wouldn't know good writing, character development and intelligent dialog if it slapped him in the face.

George Lucas

I will no longer be purchasing anything with your name attached to it--you're dead to me, please burn in hell, now and forever more.

Find my words harsh? What can I say? I'm a prick, espessially when someone insults something I hold dear and they compair it to the drivel that they enjoy.

CHRISTHECYNIC

Sunday, February 5, 2006 4:17 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by rklenseth:
According to posts I've been reading at IMdB, George Lucas ripped on Serenity and Firefly and Whedon calling them bargain bin trash.

If that is true are we supposed to look on that as a good thing or a bad thing?

Serenity was hailed as what the Star Wars trilogy was and Episodes I-III weren't. (Obviously this is on a level deeper than such superficial things as aliens.) And along those lines the original Trilogy, when compared to modern day movies, is bargain bin trash.

What destroyed the prequels, in my opinion, was that they tried so hard to be flashy, they lost everything, when they went for impressive effects over characters. But the characters were all that ever mattered, when you grabbed a cast of unknowns and gave them a good story it was greatness, but that was a long time ago, Lucas lost touch with that.

Give me the bargain bin trash I say, at least it's real, it doesn't have enough of a budget not to be.

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If Lucas didn't really say it ignore this.

CALONRIEL

Sunday, February 5, 2006 4:18 AM

I think this particular part of the interview absolutely HAS to be a hack or crack job. In other words, it looks to me as though that particular answer may have been hacked by someone. It just doesn't match the tone of all the other answers he gave.

Especially the typos ( " . . . The best way to judge how COULD science fiction films are . . . " )?

I really don't see how there's any way that Lucas actually said these words.

CALONRIEL

Sunday, February 5, 2006 4:21 AM

Actually, on second thought, I think the ENTIRE interview is fake. I think it's someone's attempt at uber-sarcasm as a form of humor.

I'll take Serenity any day over Star Wars and I can't stand those three prequels, but to be fair -- there's no way that's Lucas speaking.

SNAP

Sunday, February 5, 2006 4:27 AM

Looks fake

check out:

http://www.petitiononline.com/5551313/petition.htm

google reveals even more

JUBELEARLY

Sunday, February 5, 2006 4:28 AM

Hey Guys Im new to the site... Glad to be a part of the browncoat cause, but before we all go starting Lucas vs whedon War you all should know that Supershadow.com one giant joke. There are a couple Petitions out there trying to dismantle the site. The site is one big lie, so the odds that the "douche bag" of a webmaster actually getting an interview with lucas is slim to none. As a matter of fact their is even a site trying to expose the webmaster lol http://www.angelfire.com/crazy3/realsupershadow/

CHRISTHECYNIC

Sunday, February 5, 2006 4:28 AM

The site linked to in this thread is obviously made up but it is entirely possible that the parody is based (loosely) on something he really said.

I say give him the benefit of the doubt, we have enough reason to dislike him without adding something that isn't necessarily true.

SMOOF

Sunday, February 5, 2006 4:28 AM

Perhaps I spoke too soon--I still stand by my comments though and still hate, as always, George Lucas.

EARLYSUMMER

Sunday, February 5, 2006 4:32 AM

I did a general search on supershadows (where the supposed George Lucas interview comes from) and found that it is accused of being a fraud. There's a website: boards.theforce.net/message where I guess star wars fans were trying to petition to stop this guy.
Not sure how to post a link, but this is the web address for the discussion board

http://boards.theforce.net/Message.aspx?topic=17900762

Sounds like the Lucas interview is a fake.

Nevermind, others have already beat me to it.

"I don't know what I'm saying. I never know what I'm saying"

SAINTANDEOL

Sunday, February 5, 2006 4:46 AM

if you actually read it past the first seven or eight questions, it becomes painfully obvious and kinda funny. some of the questions are really funny, and "Lucas's" answers are frickin' hi-larious.

Clouds appear
and bring to men a chance to rest
from looking at the moon.
-Matsuo Basho

SAINTANDEOL

Sunday, February 5, 2006 4:51 AM

i just spent five minutes reading the main page of supershadow.com, and i am in tears from laughing so hard. anyone who's ever been into Star Wars will probably find it funny too.

seriously folks, tears. streaming down my face.

Clouds appear
and bring to men a chance to rest
from looking at the moon.
-Matsuo Basho

CHRISPV

Sunday, February 5, 2006 4:56 AM

Yeah, as a refugee SW fan, let me say that Supershadow is a total fraud. He claims to be Lucas's best friend and that he spends his days at Skywalker Ranch editing the films. He's a total crackpot. Every few weeks the message boards would get some poor uninformed newbie who didn't know any better spouting some trash about "Kane Skywalker" or some such and someone would explain (usually not very politely, another reason why the 'verse is so much better than the Galaxy Far, Far Away) that Supershadow's dubious credibility to him.

Honestly, anything you find on that site is complete and utter bilge.

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal, Fox!

GLUEMAN

Sunday, February 5, 2006 4:56 AM

Curious, I paged through Lucas's answers to fans questions and also did a google search and did'nt come up with anything.

I like starwars, but never realized how pompous and greedy he comes off in in the way he answers fan questions. He always came off to me a layed back kinda writer.

Oh well star wars fading from memory...Serenity rising!

Zoe: "Is that Jayne? Is that really him? Wash, pinch me, I must be dreaming!"

EARLYSUMMER

Sunday, February 5, 2006 4:58 AM

Yep, I agree. This guy definately has a talent for making up stuff. He sure put a lot into that "George Lucas interview".

"Cause sick people are Hi-larious"

AURAPTOR

Sunday, February 5, 2006 5:02 AM

i'm even more glad than ever that I've not spent one dime on any SW dvds, tapes, shirts, etc.

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

SAINTANDEOL

Sunday, February 5, 2006 5:15 AM

ok, just so i'm sure, we are all agreed that he's trying to be funny, and not actually trying to fool anyone, right?

Clouds appear
and bring to men a chance to rest
from looking at the moon.
-Matsuo Basho

EARLYSUMMER

Sunday, February 5, 2006 5:24 AM

"That's the popular theory"

VIOLETRIX

Sunday, February 5, 2006 5:40 AM

Quote:
Is this interview actually credible? It looks made up to me.

yeah, i can't imagine lucas would actually come out and say that. maybe he would, i don't know. i don't really like star wars especially, because i've read dune, but i'd be surprised if he'd say that.

he usually comes across as relatively gracious. i mean, he has a bajillion dollars and a perceived stranglehold on the "scifi" genre.

whatever. if he did actually say that, f

k 'im.

http://violetrix.blogspot.com
if i ever kill you, you'll be awake, you'll be facing me, and you'll be armed.

MISTERDRGN

Sunday, February 5, 2006 5:50 AM

It's ludicrous, and frankly somewhat disturbing, that around half the posters in this topic seem to be at least considering the possibility that this is for real. Do you think so little of George Lucas?? No matter what you may think of him personally, no one in his position would be stupid enough to badmouth another sci-fi movie like that.

Also, as several people have pointed out, the entire website is clearly a joke.

AXIOS

Sunday, February 5, 2006 6:01 AM

Three minutes of reading various questions and answers left no doubt in mind that the interview is a fake piece of go-se.

"The best thing about Star Wars is that it doesn’t look like regular science fiction. The uniforms worn by Kirk and Picard in Star Trek look horrendous. The futuristic look you talk about is not the way to go. I want Star Wars to always remain timeless and classic. The designs have to be organic and not machine like. I think you don‘t understand what Star Wars is all about. I think we should leave this all up to SuperShadow. He has his finger on the pulse of Star Wars and he always makes the right decisions."

The ridiculousness of the whole thing is hi-larious.

MATTEBLACK

Sunday, February 5, 2006 6:11 AM

I have been a big fan of Star Wars since I was a child but, Lucas' coments strike me as petty jealousy. When you look at why the early movies are better than the later ones and why we love Joss' work, it is the characters and dialogue.

Lucas has created (sometimes borrowed) a great world to tell his giant saga. Firefly is all about the characters and dialogue, something Lucas seems to have steadily forgotten how to do well as his career has gone on.

SAINTANDEOL

Sunday, February 5, 2006 6:13 AM

it's not go-se, it's gorram brilliant. I hurt my face laughing so hard. let's give SuperShadow his due, he's a funny bastard.

Clouds appear
and bring to men a chance to rest
from looking at the moon.
-Matsuo Basho

AXIOS

Sunday, February 5, 2006 6:16 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SaintAndeol:
it's not go-se, it's gorram brilliant. I hurt my face laughing so hard. let's give SuperShadow his due, he's a funny bastard.

If it were just this, I'd be inclined to agree. But, it seems as if he's been up to deceivin' Star Wars fans for years, claimin' all kinds of things that, if believed by someone, would end up disappointing that person when those things were proven untrue.

There are some funny moments on there though.

VIOLETRIX

Sunday, February 5, 2006 6:22 AM

Quote:
let's give SuperShadow his due, he's a funny bastard.

i liked the references to all the girlies lucas gets. it is a very funny site.

http://violetrix.blogspot.com
if i ever kill you, you'll be awake, you'll be facing me, and you'll be armed.

CHRISPV

Sunday, February 5, 2006 6:23 AM

Personally, I don't think he's trying to be funny in the slightest. I think he gets off a little bit on naive folks who wander onto his site and think he really is some high-ranking insider in the Lucasian Empire.

'Course, that's just one man's opinion.

Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal, Fox!

ASARIAN

Sunday, February 5, 2006 7:02 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Snap:
George Lucas: The best way to judge how could science fiction films are is to examine their box-office earnings. Serenity took in a weak $ 25 million dollars in North America. Revenge of the Sith crushed this figure with earnings toppling over $ 380 million dollars. Hence, Star Wars is fifteen times more popular that the hack work produced by Whedon.

As River would say: "Sad little king on a sad little hill."

And that's all I care to say about this low-life piece of go-se.

"Mei-mei, everything I have is right here." -- Simon Tam.

STILLFREE

Sunday, February 5, 2006 7:11 AM

To everyone who took the interview at face value: shame on you! Use your critical thinking faculties for one second before passing such harsh judgement on Lucas. Do you think he'd give an exclusive interview to a site called "Supershadow?" If you do judge him, at least let it be for the new trilogy. That's almost deserving of the Sarlacc pit.

Thinking before speaking is one thing, but thinking before posting is just so much easier. Take the time.

ANASAZI

Sunday, February 5, 2006 10:41 AM

You mean hust cuz it's on the 'net does'nt mean it's valid and true?....OMG my entire world is about tou o fall apart....

Seriously people, did you really buy into this bogus site? Sheesh, the Alliance would have had you wrapped around it's little finger when it came to propaganda.....

________________________________________________________
"You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought....."

ASARIAN

Sunday, February 5, 2006 10:48 AM

Quote:
Seriously people, did you really buy into this bogus site? Sheesh, the Alliance would have had you wrapped around it's little finger when it came to propaganda.....

Nah; you got this backwards. :) I really posted the Alliance way:

"We shoot first. Brass can sort it out later."

"Mei-mei, everything I have is right here." -- Simon Tam.

HORRID

Sunday, February 5, 2006 11:20 AM

Quote:
Well, to be honest making a Jedi robe is not all that difficult. You just take a potato sack and cut a hole at one of the corners, then cut the sack to make an opening. Even an autistic tard could do this with much ease.

this didn't give it away to anyone?

JONUS

Sunday, February 5, 2006 2:28 PM

Supershadow is an obsessed Star Wars fan who makes people believe he's best friends with Lucas. Don't trust anything on his site!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supershadow

Mal would kick Han Solo's ass.

GIXXER

Sunday, February 5, 2006 2:43 PM

Obvious fake.

I direct m'learned friends towards the blatant use of vocabulary, grammar and syntax. And actual readability.

Can't have been him.

The prosecution rests.

NEEDY

Sunday, February 5, 2006 5:19 PM

LOL, that site's hilarious

I loved this bit:

Quote:

George Lucas, I have a question for you: In Attack of the Clones, on Kamino, when Obi-Wan, Lama-Su, and Taun-We are walking in that corridor, we see what looks like the bottom of the Star Trek Enterprise, is that where it came from?

George Lucas: No, the Enterprise of Star Trek did not originate on Kamino. The events of Attack of the Clones occurred approximately 170,000 years prior to the first, original Star Trek TV series. What happened is that I got permission from Paramount Pictures (the film studio that owns all rights to Star Trek) to let me use this design. I love ripping off the ideas of others so I can spend less time thinking about Star Wars. It saves me much time to borrow ideas so I can spend more time with my super model girlfriends. If you remember, we also had one of the 2001: A Space Odyssey pods in Watto’s junk yard in The Phantom Menace.

and another funny reply

Quote:

George Lucas: Thanks for the kind words. You have really made my whole year. It is rare to find a fan so dedicated that they buy all the merchandise we produce related to Star Wars. I really do admire you for giving me so much money. You’re willing to flip burgers for pennies a day to keep Lucasfilm in riches. I am forever grateful. You give me the ability to buy a brand-new Lamborghini each year. I thank you for that. It means so much to me. So much that you couldn’t imagine.

Padme was about eight months pregnant when the Skywalker twins were removed from her. Anakin and Padme never had an official honeymoon. Anakin and Padme were together again in the Star Wars equivalent of Heaven. Obi-Wan has to construct his house himself. He builds his home on unclaimed land. Thanks for defending Star Wars so hardily. We need somebody to stand up to the failures of life who do nothing but complain because they are so bitter and jaded about life.

Relax guys, its all done in good fun. If some people are fooled by it then its their own fault for not getting a little thing called "sarcasm"
Sure, it might seem odd for the guy to boost his name by saying he is GL's best mate, but that too is done in the name of a laugh - kinda like when you photoshop images to add yourself in a pciture with a celebrity.
Granted the guy does seem to have a bit too much time on his hands (but then, some may say the same thing about people like us who spend so much time on forums like this)

...

Sorry, just got to add that I read this one too and thought it was laugh out loud funny

Quote:

First of all, I'd like to say this; I have read some of the comments and a few of them you basically call the person an idiot. Wouldn't it be smarter and time saving to just read the ones that are worth reading instead of ones that make you pity the idiot that has a small brain. And now to my actual question. Did you actually take the time to think about the way a light saber would work? A few of us spent half a year pondering this and taking different pieces of the light saber and such at a time and trying to put some logic into it, we got a few theories if you would like to read one, like to read on enough to actually take the time out of your busy day, then my email is ****@hotmail.com.

George Lucas: I have to respond to some of the hardcore losers who write in to me so that they know exactly how I feel about them. Some of these people are deluded enough to think their opinion actually matters. They post on message boards that are read by two or three people. This makes them think they are talking to the entire fan base, which is totally ridiculous. SuperShadow.com is the only place on the Net where you can make contact with hundreds of thousands of true fans. I bash these mentally challenged people to show them who’s boss. Their opinions will never matter just as their lives have no purpose. It makes me laugh really hard that somebody wastes so much time spouting off hatred about Star Wars.

You need to remember that I had about three years to come up with the light-sa

SYNCHRO

Sunday, February 5, 2006 6:17 PM

I almost fell for it...

In the future, there are always these big slow spinning fan blades.

11THHOUR

Sunday, February 5, 2006 8:06 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by RKLENSETH:
According to posts I've been reading at IMdB, George Lucas ripped on Serenity and Firefly and Whedon calling them bargain bin trash. The posters provide no link but said it was in an interview featured on www.supershadow.com.

Does anyone know if this is true? Has anyone actually seen this article or interview?

This George Lucas "interview" is so very, very fake... for so many reasons.

If it has prompted any extended arguments on IMdB, or admonishments against George Lucas, then I find this troubling... troubling because it means people can be duped so easily. Apparently, critical thinking is in short supply these days.

The Star Wars fanboy who wrote the "interview" probably wants to get George Lucas' attention, even if it means doing it in a negative way.

________________________________________________

"Because teenage pranks are fun when you're about to die!" - Hoban Washburne

SAMEERTIA

Sunday, February 5, 2006 8:55 PM

Lucas knows better than to alienate Hollywood powers with such comments. Hollywood is politics, my friends, and you play the game or you find yourself in Spain or France making indie films on no budget.

The site, though, overall, is pretty darn hilarious!

And look! It gets more people saying "What is "Firefly"?" And we LIKE that!

KEVAR

Sunday, February 5, 2006 9:50 PM

Hmmm, I'm sure this has been brought up. But judging from the responses, and the fact that GL doesn't give a whole lot of interviews. I sincerely doubt this is GL. Probably some hack SW fanboy who thinks that Haden Christiansen can act.

CHRISISALL

Sunday, February 5, 2006 10:08 PM

Yep. It's a bunch of crap.
I'm surprised Lucas' lawyers haven't sued this fellow yet.

Jar-Jar Chrisisall

LADYSINGS

Sunday, February 5, 2006 10:19 PM

I don't know if anyone will remember this but on one of the DVD commentaries for Buffy, (I believe it's on the 6th season episode "Bargaining"...a comment by Marti Noxon) they actually talk about George Lucas coming to the set with his daughter because she was such a big fan. He even asked some of the cast to come to Australia and visit him on set.

That doesn't sound like somebody who would then turn around and rip on everything that Joss has created. In other words, I believe the interview is a fake.

"Kaylee, find that kid who's takin' a dirt nap with baby Jesus. We need a hood ornament."

GLOBLABSURDITY

Sunday, February 5, 2006 10:28 PM

This is obviously drivel. It seems to me that in the land of Hollywood--most everyone seems to go out of their way to sucker up or put on a kinda show for everyone else. Meaning that if a particular director doesn't like something another puts out--I doubt you'd hear anything from first said director about it. If they like what the other has created--they'll go on and on about it. The consensus being that you never really know who may be on top of the game next--so don't cut your throat or burn your bridge. 'Everybody play nice'. Of course there are exeptions to this rule--those who seem to rattle the fences a bit--like our Joss. However, even Joss doesn't seem to strike out with too much venom--with him it's more implied and wrapped up in humor. I've seen interviews with Lucas as well--and he is much more professional in approach than the 'bozo' on this site.

*Never judge a book by it's movie*
*The heart is an artist that paints over what profoundly disturbs it, leaving on the canvas a less dark,less sharp version of the truth*--D.Koontz (Forever Odd)

LUVMYVERA

Sunday, February 5, 2006 10:38 PM

Ok so we all know it is fake, but how do you think GL really feels about Firefly? It is obvious Joss loves Star Wars when he talks about the Millenium Falcon. GL may have lost his touch as a director, but he still has a s*** ton of money and a nice ranch that he could lend to a series if he wants. Ok not going to happen but we can dream right?

CHINDI

Sunday, February 5, 2006 11:58 PM

yeah it has gotta be a total fake.. and I doubt GL feels ANYTHING bad toward Whedon or any other genuine film makers.. he just doesn't seem the type- especially since he is a Hollywood Maverick himself.

I think Lucas is probably a really decent guy and he probably liked Serenity if he saw it... he probably also wishes he got Whedon to do the script.. but that's another story!

Chindi

RIVERTAMKICKSASS03

Monday, February 6, 2006 12:16 AM

prity sure this is a fake

Plus, why is everyone down on episdoe 1 2 and 3 they were far more interesting than 4,5,6. I mean they actully shown how bad guys get control of the world and how bad guys go bad.

the prequals are great becouse for once the plucky underdog is the evil tyrant

MURKYMERC

Monday, February 6, 2006 12:56 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by rivertamkicksass03:
prity sure this is a fake

Plus, why is everyone down on episdoe 1 2 and 3 they were far more interesting than 4,5,6. I mean they actully shown how bad guys get control of the world and how bad guys go bad.

I agree, we know it is a fake. In regards to people being down on 1,2,3 it is becuase it lacked the chemistry between the characters that 4,5 and had, which is actually one of the things I love so much about Firefly/Serenity.

OMELET

Monday, February 6, 2006 1:10 AM

I completely agree, this interview is bull crap.

Oh, and episodes 1,2, and three 3 were just not as good as 4,5,and 6. The latter had the most interesting characters and a wonderful story to boot. 1,2,and 3 were just oversaturated with special effects and such that just took away from the story and characters.

That's why I believe Serenity is such a better movie than the recent Star Wars films. Because it was made on a lower budget, the special effects weren't used as much, which didn't detract from the characters or the story line. It's kind of ironic actually. A super special effects driven movie who's story is not so great does exceptionally well at the box office. On the other hand, the movie that is done well and has a more compelling story and group of characters does not do as well as the other movie.

Sometimes, I wish people would open their eyes and take a look at what their watching. Not everything is how it appears.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jayne: Are you saying River's a witch?
Wash: Yes, Jayne, she's a witch. She's had congress with the Beast.
Jayne: She's in Congress?
Wash: How did your brain even learn human speech? I'm just so curious!

STILLFREE

Monday, February 6, 2006 2:32 AM

HOW ARE THERE STILL PEOPLE SAYING "YEAH I THINK THIS IS A FAKE?" YOU THINK? PROBABLY? PRETTY SURE?

"Supershadow is the smartest man I have ever had the honor of meeting. He will write, direct, and produce all of my future movies." -George Lucas

OMELET

Monday, February 6, 2006 2:44 AM

You really should know that there is no reason to be rude or yell. People are having a nice discussion in here. We don't need people yelling and being rude to others.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jayne: Are you saying River's a witch?
Wash: Yes, Jayne, she's a witch. She's had congress with the Beast.
Jayne: She's in Congress?
Wash: How did your brain even learn human speech? I'm just so curious!

ASARIAN

Monday, February 6, 2006 2:48 AM

Hmm, I think this thread is rapidly moving towards a point where there are more people saying: "How could you folks all believe this?" than there were people who initially believed it.

Somethin' about that is just downright unsettlin'.

"Mei-mei, everything I have is right here." -- Simon Tam.

STILLFREE

Monday, February 6, 2006 6:43 AM

I apologize if I seemed too rude. I meant the caps more as disbelieving emphasis rather than yelling, belligerent or otherwise. I suppose I sometimes get annoyed when it seems people post without reading even a few of the other replies, and I've been fighting off this damn Katrina cough for months. If I offended anyone, let me know and I will send you an electronic hug, or something else lame like that.

Me

LITTLEALBATROSS

Monday, February 6, 2006 7:56 AM

Don't worry about it too much StillFree - I was thinking the same thing when I got to your post.

Oh, and to whoever said it earlier: Hayden Christensen can act. He was pretty amazing in Shattered Glass.

THEPISTONENGINE

Monday, February 6, 2006 12:32 PM

I honestly don't think that was George Lucas. I never read any of his interviews, but I doubt his PR department would let him respond to his fans they was he had in several of the statements.

"irst of all, I'd like to say this; I have read some of the comments and a few of them you basically call the person an idiot. Wouldn't it be smarter and time saving to just read the ones that are worth reading instead of ones that make you pity the idiot that has a small brain. And now to my actual question. Did you actually take the time to think about the way a light saber would work? A few of us spent half a year pondering this and taking different pieces of the light saber and such at a time and trying to put some logic into it, we got a few theories if you would like to read one, like to read on enough to actually take the time out of your busy day, then my email is ****@hotmail.com.

George Lucas: I have to respond to some of the hardcore losers who write in to me so that they know exactly how I feel about them. Some of these people are deluded enough to think their opinion actually matters. They post on message boards that are read by two or three people. This makes them think they are talking to the entire fan base, which is totally ridiculous. SuperShadow.com is the only place on the Net where you can make contact with hundreds of thousands of true fans. I bash these mentally challenged people to show them who’s boss. Their opinions will never matter just as their lives have no purpose. It makes me laugh really hard that somebody wastes so much time spouting off hatred about Star Wars.

You need to remember that I had about three years to come up with the light-saber idea while writing Star Wars from 1973 to 1975. I basically thought they were like regular swords except instead of having metal blades the blades would be of some kind of energy. I can’t tell you exactly how the light saber works because I’m not an engineer or physicist. I’m sure there are extraterrestrials that have working light sabers. There may be real light-saber battles happening all over the Universe."

EDIT: also, here he shows a fundamental misunderstanding of his own show. another thing pointing to it not being him.

"Anakin succumbed to the dark side for several reasons. First, Anakin was frustrated with the Jedi’s inability to accept his superiority over all other Jedi. Second, Obi-Wan circumvented Anakin’s progress towards greatness. Third, Anakin wanted a kind of unlimited power that the light side could not offer. These three factors allowed Sidious to trick Anakin into joining the dark side. If the Jedi had acknowledged Anakin as the best Jedi ever, had gotten Obi-Wan off Anakin’s back and allowed Anakin to do whatever he pleased, then the fall of the Jedi and Old Republic at the hands of the Sith probably wouldn’t have occurred.

Obi-Wan was on the defensive at Mustafar because he didn’t really believe he needed to kill Anakin. Obi-Wan loved Anakin like a brother. Obi-Wan was essentially the only father Anakin ever knew. Obi-Wan held on to the belief that Anakin could be turned back to the good. The only reason Obi-Wan defeated Anakin was because Anakin gave Obi-Wan no other choice. "

VOSHEXETER

Monday, February 6, 2006 2:34 PM

Lucas vs. Whedon.........?

Celebrity Deathmatch anyone?

voshExeter

N0SKILLZ

Monday, February 6, 2006 2:54 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Snap:
Dear Mr. Lucas, I love all your movies. I was wondering if you have ever seen the movie Serenity written and directed by Joss Whedon? Many critics compare it to the Star Wars Prequels and how much better it is. "It is the best sci-fi movie I've seen since The Empire Strikes Back." I was wondering how you felt about the movie, did you like it?

George Lucas: The best way to judge how could science fiction films are is to examine their box-office earnings. Serenity took in a weak $ 25 million dollars in North America. Revenge of the Sith crushed this figure with earnings toppling over $ 380 million dollars. Hence, Star Wars is fifteen times more popular that the hack work produced by Whedon.

All of Whedon’s TV shows can be found in the bargain basement bin for DVD’s. Buffy - The Vampire Slayer, Firefly and Angel can be bought for $ 10 bucks for the entire season run. Anti-popular is the way I describe it. All and all, Serenity is just another piece of crap in the wall. That will surely drive you insane.

umm... asshole.

from what i can tell, most of the stuff on the site is really just fan site stuff, i doubt George Lucas ever even talked ot the people on the site.

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RAF Lakenheath

GRIZWALD

Monday, February 6, 2006 3:03 PM

Quote:
...Firefly... can be bought for $ 10 bucks for the entire season run.

Woo-hoo! I'm goin shoppin!

Oh wait... Satire, you say? Awwww. I really wanted to get Firefly for ten bucks and resell it on eBay!

STILLFREE

Monday, February 6, 2006 3:47 PM

" I honestly don't think that was George Lucas. I never read any of his interviews, but I doubt his PR department would let him respond to his fans they was he had in several of the statements."

Ok, now they're just trying to piss us off.

GLOBLABSURDITY

Monday, February 6, 2006 3:51 PM

Check this out--lol.

http://www.popcornpicnic.com/serenity.htm

*Never judge a book by it's movie*
*The heart is an artist that paints over what profoundly disturbs it, leaving on the canvas a less dark,less sharp version of the truth*--D.Koontz (Forever Odd)

OMELET

Monday, February 6, 2006 4:51 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by StillFree:
I apologize if I seemed too rude. I meant the caps more as disbelieving emphasis rather than yelling, belligerent or otherwise. I suppose I sometimes get annoyed when it seems people post without reading even a few of the other replies, and I've been fighting off this damn Katrina cough for months. If I offended anyone, let me know and I will send you an electronic hug, or something else lame like that.

Me

I'm sorry I took your post the wrong way.

It would be nice to have an electronic hug though.

I'm kidding. I'm really sorry though for presuming too much. Maybe I should think before I post next time.

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Jayne: Are you saying River's a witch?
Wash: Yes, Jayne, she's a witch. She's had congress with the Beast.
Jayne: She's in Congress?
Wash: How did your brain even learn human speech? I'm just so curious!

OMELET

Monday, February 6, 2006 4:54 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by globlabsurdity:
Check this out--lol.

http://www.popcornpicnic.com/serenity.htm

*Never judge a book by it's movie*
*The heart is an artist that paints over what profoundly disturbs it, leaving on the canvas a less dark,less sharp version of the truth*--D.Koontz (Forever Odd)

That's hi-larious. It would be really cool if we could send that to Joss. I'm sure he would have a few laughs.

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Jayne: Are you saying River's a witch?
Wash: Yes, Jayne, she's a witch. She's had congress with the Beast.
Jayne: She's in Congress?
Wash: How did your brain even learn human speech? I'm just so curious!

STILLFREE

Monday, February 6, 2006 5:30 PM

Omelet, there's no need to apologize. I have no problem with people trying to bring about more amicable discourse. You made me take a second look at my treatment of the less fortunate. Kidding, kidding.

Great sig by the way.

IMALEAF

Monday, February 6, 2006 6:12 PM

I WILL NEVER CALL MAL HAN SOLO AGAIN, I never really said he was Han Solo but you get my point. Stupid Fuckhead Lucas. He is just pissed off because the Fanfic for Firefly has better lines than he can wirte.

~~River: Bible's broken. Contradictions, false logics. Doesn't make sense.~~

FERT1

Monday, February 6, 2006 7:46 PM

Okay, I can't stand it any longer. Anyone who is still not sure if the interview is for real or not, read it, all of it. It's very obviously satire. I think the guy who wrote it is feeling very jaded toward GL, like so many here, and is making fun of his self-important attitude. GL is gracious, but at the same time, he has bought into his own legend just a little too much. The "interview" is a satire about just that. I think it is supposed to represent what GL would like to be able to say. It's actually pretty funny if you read in that light. It's kind of like "A Modest Proposal", which suggested that the way to get rid of the poverty stricken is to...eat them. Some people even took that little bit of satire seriously. It's almost like Orson Welles broadcast of "War of the Worlds". When you write satire, you almost have to include a little disclaimer - This is only a satire. Any similiarities to real events is...meant as a joke.

GLOBLABSURDITY

Monday, February 6, 2006 7:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Fert1:
Okay, I can't stand it any longer. Anyone who is still not sure if the interview is for real or not, read it, all of it. It's very obviously satire. I think the guy who wrote it is feeling very jaded toward GL, like so many here, and is making fun of his self-important attitude. GL is gracious, but at the same time, he has bought into his own legend just a little too much. The "interview" is a satire about just that. I think it is supposed to represent what GL would like to be able to say. It's actually pretty funny if you read in that light. It's kind of like "A Modest Proposal", which suggested that the way to get rid of the poverty stricken is to...eat them. Some people even took that little bit of satire seriously. It's almost like Orson Welles broadcast of "War of the Worlds". When you write satire, you almost have to include a little disclaimer - This is only a satire. Any similiarities to real events is...meant as a joke.

I will be making a supreme effort never to become poverty stricken--
Jayne may not want to "explode"--and I sure as 'ell don't wanna get eaten.
That is so very funny!

*Never judge a book by it's movie*
*The heart is an artist that paints over what profoundly disturbs it, leaving on the canvas a less dark,less sharp version of the truth*--D.Koontz (Forever Odd)

FERT1

Monday, February 6, 2006 8:17 PM

Quote:
Jayne may not want to "explode"--and I sure as 'ell don't wanna get eaten.

Then stay away from Reavers! LOL!

Jonathan Swift wrote that little essay in 1729. Anyone not familiar with it, can read it online at http://art-bin.com/art/omodest.html .

I remember having to read that in English class. Even then some of the students thought it was supposed to be taken seriously, and told the teacher how much they disliked it.

OMELET

Monday, February 6, 2006 8:39 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by StillFree:
Omelet, there's no need to apologize. I have no problem with people trying to bring about more amicable discourse. You made me take a second look at my treatment of the less fortunate. Kidding, kidding.

Hahaha.

Quote:
Great sig by the way.

Thank you.

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Jayne: Are you saying River's a witch?
Wash: Yes, Jayne, she's a witch. She's had congress with the Beast.
Jayne: She's in Congress?
Wash: How did your brain even learn human speech? I'm just so curious!

SPOOKYJESUS

Monday, February 6, 2006 9:04 PM

Fuck.

In fairness to George I thought it was a loaded question - "Your films suck compared to Serenity - comment?"

ASARIAN

Monday, February 6, 2006 10:19 PM

Dear Mr. Lucas,

$10? I fear you are mistaken. FireFly is a lot 'cheaper' than that: it's price-less.

Please get back to us when Star Wars reaches that level.

Sincerely,

(Now, a quick word for those in this thread who think they're more fortunate than the less fortunate: this is not anger; this is irony.)

--
"Mei-mei, everything I have is right here." -- Simon Tam.

ZOOMLORD

Wednesday, February 8, 2006 4:33 PM

Greetings, I am a Starwars fan and I come in peace. I am known as one of the main enemies of Supershadow, to him I am known as Zoomlord and Darth Zoom, I belong to an anti-Shadow group known as Shadowscourge.
As some of you may know now Supershadow is a person known as Mickey Suttle. He is a cabinet maker from North Carolina, he is not and never will be an employee of Lucafilm.
His site is not "a joke", he is a crazed fan who has decieved thousands since 1999 and believes in his own head that many of his claims are true.
He even posts pictures he steals from porn sites and the likes of and claims they are his girlfriends.
Do not believe any of his claims or so called quotes from George Lucas.
For more "entertainment" from Supershadow go to Myspace.com/super_shadow. Thank you for your time, I thought Serenity was a great movie and I hope the franchise continues to grow- Zoomlord.

PIRATENEWS

Wednesday, February 8, 2006 8:26 PM

Quote:
Dear Mr. Lucas, I love all your movies. I was wondering if you have ever seen the movie Serenity written and directed by Joss Whedon? Many critics compare it to the Star Wars Prequels and how much better it is. "It is the best sci-fi movie I've seen since The Empire Strikes Back." I was wondering how you felt about the movie, did you like it?

George Lucas: The best way to judge how could science fiction films are is to examine their box-office earnings. Serenity took in a weak $ 25 million dollars in North America. Revenge of the Sith crushed this figure with earnings toppling over $ 380 million dollars. Hence, Star Wars is fifteen times more popular that the hack work produced by Whedon.

All of Whedon’s TV shows can be found in the bargain basement bin for DVD’s. Buffy - The Vampire Slayer, Firefly and Angel can be bought for $ 10 bucks for the entire season run. Anti-popular is the way I describe it. All and all, Serenity is just another piece of crap in the wall. That will surely drive you insane.

Very funny.

Hans Solo, er, Harrison Ford was on Jay Leno last night. He said he's now a jet pilot, like that black Clingon on Star Trek. That's cool that the pilot of Mellenium Falcon can actual fly in real life. But he looked REALLY old.

"You can't stop the signal!"
-Mr Universe, STM, Pirate TV

FIREFLY SERENITY PILOT MUSIC VIDEO:
http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2006/01/8310.php
(try again later if server is crashed)

Pirate News TV
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Winner Best Music Video
"We Never Went to the Moon"
(no rocket exhaust as Apollo LEM "blasted off" from the "moon")
Los Angeles Music Awards 2005
http://piratenews.org/hollywood.html
http://ufoetry.com

ALECIRVING

Wednesday, February 8, 2006 10:19 PM

In case you are not already familiar with the site Supershadow is a fraud which has been sued by LucasFilm multiple times and also has often claimed to have Episode VII-IX scripts.

For more information: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supershadow

AVERARDUS

Wednesday, February 8, 2006 10:27 PM

I have heard many rumors about Lucas being a real asshole, now I believe it!

I also sense a bit of jealousy, lucas knows most people did not like the last three films he made (SW 4-6), they only made money because of the name Star Wars..lol..

Firefly/Serenity IS the best sci-fi story since the first and second Star Wars films, hands down!

Hey Lucas, I wont be buying a damn thing from you

Aver~

STILLFREE

Thursday, February 9, 2006 4:18 AM

I really hate George Lucas. I'm highly offended by the fact that he makes fun of people with mental disabilities, such as autism. I also find it insulting that he says stuff life "Thank you losers for buying all of my worthless stuff so that I can keep all my hot girlfriends." I do find it strange that he only says stuff like that on his best friends Supershadow's website, or that it hasn't become common knowledge after all these years. You would think the tabloids would report these things! Especially that he didn't even write his own movies (Supershadow did ALL the work).

God bless America

JDUBASHI

Thursday, February 9, 2006 4:25 AM

This man is an ASSHOLE. Does he not know that Serenity was a million times better than any of the prequels! Just because Revenge of the Sith made more money doesn't mean it was a better film.

ALECIRVING

Thursday, February 9, 2006 6:08 PM

Really guys, is it so hard to work out? You guys are too gullible. Apparently you didn't read the wikipedia article or listen to what I said about Supershadow.

He is a fake. He first popped in 1999 shortly before the release of Episode I and posted what he said was the Episode I script. Hundreds believed him and rushed to it. When Phantom Menace came out his script turned out to be merely a combination of lines from the trailer and some stuff he made up. The same thing happened with Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith.

He is a universally despised figure amongst the Star Wars community and those few fans who believe him send him email wanting to talk with George Lucas. Of course he responds, claiming to be George Lucas. This explains many of the discrepencies between what he says and what Lucas says.

Example:

Supershadow claims the EU (books, games, comics, and such) are not canon whereas Lucas has actually stated they are. He also claims he was in ROTS and even listed his cameo. When Star Wars fans checked the cameo they discovered it was not listed by his name (Mikey Suttle) or under the alias Supershadowe claimed it would be (Shadow). Instead it was listed as a completely different actor and a different character name than what Supershadow claimed.

Face it, you've been had. While Lucas sure as hell isn't an angel he's not the asshole this fraud makes him out to be. Supershadow is the villain here.

STILLFREE

Thursday, February 9, 2006 7:30 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AlecIrving:
Face it, you've been had. While Lucas sure as hell isn't an angel he's not the asshole this fraud makes him out to be. Supershadow is the villain here.

I wouldn't call him a villain. He's a great satirist and if he can get people to believe his ludicrously obvious jokes, all the better. I would say the villain is human nature...bum bum BUMMMM

Fool me once, shame on you, fool me dozens of times, just shoot me.

ALECIRVING

Thursday, February 9, 2006 9:16 PM

Villain is a harsh term, but I was a bit upset about the whole thing being that I both love Firefly and Star Wars. But I'm not sure satirist is a good word either. He isn't trying to send a message, he's deliberately misleading people for the fun of it, nothing less. Lucasfilm actually tried to take him offline at one point but failed due to free speech laws.

MISSTRESSAHARA

Friday, February 10, 2006 11:36 AM

Okay, those people who are still believing this is real, WAKE UP AND SEE THE WHOLE PICTURE. Just reading the so called interview's supposedly by GL should prove what a fake this is. I mean read it. The answers sound like a 5 year old boy typed it up. I've seen plenty of interviews by Lucas and at every one he was gracious, well spoken, and actually kind to his fans. Now I agree that somewhere he substituted style over substance in the latest pics, but by no means would he diss and s*#t on someone elses movie. Lord, if that was the case then it would have been far more advertised than it has been. Nothing he does goes unoticed. Just READ the comments made supposedly by him. They were so obviously written by this Supernut. The man either has delutions of grandeur, is a rabid (check stalking) fan of GL's, or has stopped taking his special pills. I'll go with all of the above.

Seriously people, give GL some credit. Do you think he'd put himself in the position to slit his own throat? You know when I'll believe this comment is real? When I hear Joss tell us that it is. And since I've not heard him complain or ask for support from his fanbase, I'm going with the majority (and my own common sense) and say this Supernut needs to be removed for Firefly and Star Wars fans sakes. The man is making both fanclubs look bad. *Sheesh*

If I'm a bitch, then life just got interesting.

ANASAZI

Friday, February 10, 2006 11:53 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Averardus:
I have heard many rumors about Lucas being a real asshole, now I believe it!

That's a great take on a fake article. Bravo to you!!

There's way to many people here trying to denegrate Star Wars because of their love for Firefly. Why can't you like both? Well Thought out comparison of the two universe is healthy, while name calling and profanity is just downright wrong.

From Joss' mouth, I've only heard him speak great things of Lucas and the Star Wars Universe. Why, he even tends to pepper some of his dialoque with Star Wars references (i.e. like the Episode I line Xander butchers in 4X01 of Buffy.)

To me, Joss has always tried to compare this little show to the Star Trek universe, only I never really see that debate on the boards alot.

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"You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought....."

MISSTRESSAHARA

Friday, February 10, 2006 1:01 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Anasazi:
Quote:
Originally posted by Averardus:
I have heard many rumors about Lucas being a real asshole, now I believe it!

That's a great take on a fake article. Bravo to you!!

There's way to many people here trying to denegrate Star Wars because of their love for Firefly. Why can't you like both? Well Thought out comparison of the two universe is healthy, while name calling and profanity is just downright wrong.

From Joss' mouth, I've only heard him speak great things of Lucas and the Star Wars Universe. Why, he even tends to pepper some of his dialoque with Star Wars references (i.e. like the Episode I line Xander butchers in 4X01 of Buffy.)

To me, Joss has always tried to compare this little show to the Star Trek universe, only I never really see that debate on the boards alot.

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"You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought....."

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Hear Hear Anasazi

If I'm a bitch, then life just got interesting.

CASSIUS

Friday, February 10, 2006 1:13 PM

Quote:
There's way to many people here trying to denegrate Star Wars because of their love for Firefly. Why can't you like both?

Yay!!!!
I love both (well, I love episodes III, IV, and V).

I haven't read the whole of this thread because it's very long, but in this months DVD Monthly/DVD Review, (the one with River on the front), Whedon says how much Lucas said he loved Firefly/Serenity.