In your brightest moments, what are the thoughts you entertain, and hope to see fully realized?
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 06:52
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PIZMOBEACH
How about posting a thread asking what people entertain in terms of their greatest dreams?
DONE
HEB
" If nothing we do matters, then all that matters is what we do.
If there's no grand finish, no big win, then the smallest act of kindness is the greatest thing in the world".
VERY WELL SAID
In my brightest moments I see all mankind united in a quest for the common good, and a sincere love of each other, realizing that hatred and violence really belong in the background of our genetic makeup, and need not be brought to the forefront so quickly, only to harm ourselves.
"It is a dream I have."
Positive and such Chrisisall
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I see a world of hope and pain, a world where we don't live happily ever after, but instead happily mostly after. A place where we can believe fragmented and contradictory things without hurting each other, where we can have conflict without getting out of hand, where, though we may not feast, we will not go hungry.
On a personal level I want to grow old among people I care about.
On a less deep level there are two places I'd like to live, one is the permanently grounded Firefly class ship Dreamer of Dreams that exists only in my mind under the, "If I ever get insanely rich I'll build this," section and the other is a very real hotel room in Florence (the most beautiful city on the planet) within walking distance of all the good sights with a stone spiral staircase in the two level room. That exists in my mind under the, "If I ever get insanely rich I'll buy the hotel and use the payment from guests to pay my cost of living," section.
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I also entertain the enduring belief that Corporatism will reach a critical mass, and the public will force them to banish the 'bottom line' in favour of 'profitable is enough'.
Then our children will come first, as they should.
Hopeful Chrisisall
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
I also entertain the enduring belief that Corporatism will reach a critical mass, and the public will force them to banish the 'bottom line' in favour of 'profitable is enough'.
Then our children will come first, as they should.
Hopeful Chrisisall
Well, that didn't take long. I had hoped to see more personal, real life comments here, instead of the standard political rhetoric.
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Well, that didn't take long. I had hoped to see more personal, real life comments here, instead of the standard political rhetoric.
A lot of people see a better world in their brightest moments, a world they would want for their children and all their loved ones. You know, what they want for the people they personally care about.
Unless you want to make people better a better world more or less takes the form of standard political rhetoric.
If you don't want that then ask the question to shallow people that don't care about the world those they love will live in.
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Originally posted by christhecynic:Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Well, that didn't take long. I had hoped to see more personal, real life comments here, instead of the standard political rhetoric.
A lot of people see a better world in their brightest moments, a world they would want for their children and all their loved ones. You know, what they want for the people they personally care about.
Unless you want to make people better a better world more or less takes the form of standard political rhetoric.
If you don't want that then ask the question to shallow people that don't care about the world those they love will live in.
Making people better.... seems to me that I saw some movie which sorta sent a message 'bout that. Hmm....oh well. I'm still naive enough to think that those who live their lives by example are often the best teachers. "Monkey see, monkey" do sort of thing.
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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For realistic, possible futures, I'll take cigarette smoking a thing of the past. I even believe that it can happen in the next century.
For just plain old dreaming, I hope that someday war and genocide will be way, way down. Maybe a few percent of what they are now. That happens through understanding and shared TV channels!
"It's a cow."
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Originally posted by christhecynic:
A lot of people see a better world in their brightest moments, a world they would want for their children and all their loved ones. You know, what they want for the people they personally care about.
I don't know about a better world. When things seem the brightest and going really well I can't help but wish that things were just a bit worse off.
Its too warm, too sunny, I have too much money, too much success, my girlfriend is too hot, she wants us to have too much sex, Serenity is too good a movie, the War on Terror is too successful, liberals are too inept, my DVR have too much TV for me to watch, that dinner was too good, the fridge is full of too much beer, there are too many good games on, the Judge is giving Defendants too much time in jail, I have too much hair, my car is too cool, gas prices have come down too much, my puppy is too smart, this post is too long, too eloquent, and finally my office chair is too comfortable.
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Quote:AURaptor, That's the dumbest post I've ever seen outta you, and I seen some dumb ones.
Originally posted by AURaptor:Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
I also entertain the enduring belief that Corporatism will reach a critical mass, and the public will force them to banish the 'bottom line' in favour of 'profitable is enough'.
Then our children will come first, as they should.
Hopeful Chrisisall
Well, that didn't take long. I had hoped to see more personal, real life comments here, instead of the standard political rhetoric.
*Nitpicky part- Corporatism has more to do with economics, I think, than politics.
*Major area of concern- The quest of the almighty dollar is bi-partison, and as such I am singling out no particular party. To assign 'political rhetoric' to my post is like saying I'm bashing Bush if I wish for world peace (Hmmmm....Naw, I won't start
).So, what am I being now, in your unclouded view, by wanting our children to come before corporate profits- too liberal or too conservative?
And if you dare play that "How do corporate profits negate family values?" card, my only response will be

Hey, first time I ever used that emoticon Chrisisall
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Be careful, Hero, you're too high up to survive a fall.
Chrisisall
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My greatest dream is that tolerance might take hold in the U.S.A.
Who knows, it might even spread to this thread.
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If you knew anything about the world, you'd find that more tolerance can be found in the US than in most parts elsewhere.
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Wow... this thread turned a little bitter.
On a completely different point... I work in a bookshop part time, in the childrens section. And I have seen/heard the all of the following:
Child: Can I have a book
Parent: A book? What do you want a book for? You've got a book at home.
***
Child: I hate books, they're boring.
***
Parent: I don't care how many good reviews it's had you should be reading educational things like Enid Blyton.
***
Parent: I wish your grandparents had never given you book tokens.
All these things destroy my day so I guess one of my wishes would be that every child would read one book that they really enjoyed and could dream because of it.
So yes, Sappy and pathetic but true because what's the point of anything if you don't dream?
Dark Angel, Firefly, Buffy, Angel, Enterprise, Farscape... anything else you'd like to cancel?
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Quote:My, how does one answer that gem of a response ? First, I meant politics in the general sense, not elected officials or party definition. Either way, it's " us against them-ism" . And who is keeping your from putting YOUR children before corporate profits? Or are you speaking for all of our children? And if all you can do is offer up a
Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:AURaptor, That's the dumbest post I've ever seen outta you, and I seen some dumb ones.
Originally posted by AURaptor:Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
I also entertain the enduring belief that Corporatism will reach a critical mass, and the public will force them to banish the 'bottom line' in favour of 'profitable is enough'.
Then our children will come first, as they should.
Hopeful Chrisisall
Well, that didn't take long. I had hoped to see more personal, real life comments here, instead of the standard political rhetoric.
*Nitpicky part- Corporatism has more to do with economics, I think, than politics.
*Major area of concern- The quest of the almighty dollar is bi-partison, and as such I am singling out no particular party. To assign 'political rhetoric' to my post is like saying I'm bashing Bush if I wish for world peace (Hmmmm....Naw, I won't start).
So, what am I being now, in your unclouded view, by wanting our children to come before corporate profits- too liberal or too conservative?
And if you dare play that "How do corporate profits negate family values?" card, my only response will be
Hey, first time I ever used that emoticon Chrisisall
to a very basic question, then it shows me that you're a) too scared b) too stupid or c) too brainwashed to even have this discussion in the first place. And fyi - I don't work for any big 'corporation'. I am self employed. But if you can find a better way of doing business, by all means, have at it. I find it funny that so many folks who bitch and whine about big corporations seem to support them all the same. Unless you're living on a desert island and your appliances are made of bamboo and coconuts ala Gilligans Island, you're just full of shit.
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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You know AURaptor you keep posting but all that seems to get written is:
blah blah blah You're an idiot blah blah blah you're an idiot blah blah blah you're an idiot blah blah blah
Has the needle got stuck in the groove, or does Bush's press release have only so much information in it for you to base your opinion?
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Originally posted by citizen:
You know AURaptor you keep posting but all that seems to get written is:
blah blah blah You're an idiot blah blah blah you're an idiot blah blah blah you're an idiot blah blah blah
Has the needle got stuck in the groove, or does Bush's press release have only so much information in it for you to base your opinion?
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Ok, I confess.. you lost me w/ the 'Bush press release' bit. No clue what ya meant by that. But I'll remind you that it wasn't me who started w/ the " that was the dumbest post " bit.
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
If you knew anything about the world, you'd find that more tolerance can be found in the US than in most parts elsewhere.
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
And if you knew anything about the world you would know when to stop talking and start listening.
Have a look back over the thread so far and see if you can spot who turned it in to a political argument.
I am walking away from this thread before I get too bitter and twisted so dont bother responding to me (unless you want to claim the last word which I am sure you do)
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Originally posted by oldenglanddry:Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
If you knew anything about the world, you'd find that more tolerance can be found in the US than in most parts elsewhere.
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
And if you knew anything about the world you would know when to stop talking and start listening.
Have a look back over the thread so far and see if you can spot who turned it in to a political argument.
I am walking away from this thread before I get too bitter and twisted so dont bother responding to me (unless you want to claim the last word which I am sure you do)
Yeah, we both know it turned right here, with this post by chrisisall: AURaptor, That's the dumbest post I've ever seen outta you, and I seen some dumb ones. Pretty much shows how some can't post w/ out taking cheap shots at others.
But on the other hand, I'm touched that chrisisall took it upon himself to change the subject line of this thread, to honour me.
It's the least he could do, since actually engaging in mature, calm and meaningful dialogue is beyond his capacity. Well done, chris! Keep believing ! " They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Either way, it's " us against them-ism" .
Take a look at how happy the average worker is in this country. Workplace angst is at an all-time high. Pressure to perform from the cashier at Wal-Mart to the CEO of (Name a big company lookin' at an impending hostle takeover). An economic climate that forces both parents to work, and a government that preaches family values, but cuts programs for kids and families.
EDIT: There are times you make sense, and there are times I agree with you. But to act like all is well, and that the children of this planet couldn't do better with a little economic attitude adjustment is plain dopey.
It is us against them- and them is gonna get a lot meaner in this global market economy.
But it won't affect you, is that right?
Celebrating the Corporate squeeze Chrisisall
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Either way, it's " us against them-ism" .
Take a look at how happy the average worker is in this country. Workplace angst is at an all-time high. Pressure to perform from the cashier at Wal-Mart to the CEO of (Name a big company lookin' at an impending hostle takeover). An economic climate that forces both parents to work, and a government that preaches family values, but cuts programs for kids and families.
EDIT: There are times you make sense, and there are times I agree with you. But to act like all is well, and that the children of this planet couldn't do better with a little economic attitude adjustment is plain dopey.
It is us against them- and them is gonna get a lot meaner in this global market economy.
But it won't affect you, is that right?
Celebrating the Corporate squeeze Chrisisall
When has anyone ever been happy at work? Seriously. That's why it's called WORK! And it's workplace angst ( which I think is totally made up B.S. but I digress..) and not soupline angst. Which do you REALLY think is worse? HINT: It ain't the workplace one.
Pressure to perform? Heck yeah! Don't like your job, get another one, or go into work for yourself.
No one is forcing anyone to have two jobs, or to have kids, for that matter. Certainly not to have more kids than they can afford.
Do you REALLY need a Gov't to teach you about your family values ? Why should the Gov't be there handing out $$ in the first place ? And what cuts ? Aren't we talking about reduction in increases? Like was the case 10 years ago when Newt Gingrich took control of Congress and the Dems/Media screamed bloody murder at the 'slashing, draconian cuts ' which weren't anything but increases ? Here we go again!
Thanks for the kind words, per the times I make sense. Likewise to you as well. I also must say that never did we have times where all is well. Those are clearly subjective observations. 100 years ago, working in the field for 12-14 hours was a fine day of work if it wasn't too hot or it didn't rain. Perhaps its the rise of the middle class in human history which has pitted one man against another. One man works from sun up to sun down and has little to show for it, while another man seemingly works very little, in an office for half that time, and does much better for himself. It's far from perfect, on that we'll agree, but what in life has ever been perfect? Or fair?
Can we do better? I'd like to think we could. Does human history give us any reason to think things will get better ? Depends on whether one sees the glass half full, half empty, or being twice the size it needs to be.

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Originally posted by Hero:
I don't know about a better world. When things seem the brightest and going really well I can't help but wish that things were just a bit worse off.
Its too warm, too sunny, I have too much money, too much success, my girlfriend is too hot, she wants us to have too much sex, Serenity is too good a movie, the War on Terror is too successful, liberals are too inept, my DVR have too much TV for me to watch, that dinner was too good, the fridge is full of too much beer, there are too many good games on, the Judge is giving Defendants too much time in jail, I have too much hair, my car is too cool, gas prices have come down too much, my puppy is too smart, this post is too long, too eloquent, and finally my office chair is too comfortable.![]()
I dare say I don’t have all your problems. I work in an army facility. We don’t have comfortable chairs.

Oh, he's so full of manure, that man! We could lay him in the dirt and grow another one just like him.
-- Ruby
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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
I work in an army facility. We don’t have comfortable chairs.
You should come work for the British, we can't afford enough boots, body armour hell even bullets for the troops, but no troubles in getting chairs that cost £1000 each.

Didn't get one of them ^ CitizenHasA-Bad back
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Go to Anchor surplus in Cattle Market Lane Nottingham and buy those 1000 pound chairs surplus for fifty quid....
I miss Nottingham.
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Sounds just about right to me.
The chairs are comfortable and all and they've got all the right knobs and buttons and automatic goes up goes down bits, but they're sooo not worth £1000...
You can get a far more comfortable leather one for half that...
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Quote:I don’t think there is a single thing in my office worth £1000. In fact, I’m not entirely sure everything in my office is worth £1000.
Originally posted by citizen:
You should come work for the British, we can't afford enough boots, body armour hell even bullets for the troops, but no troubles in getting chairs that cost £1000 each.
Oh, he's so full of manure, that man! We could lay him in the dirt and grow another one just like him.
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In my brightest manic fantasy, the royal elitists and banksters who rule the world are arrested, put on public trial, sentenced to death, and executed in public, which ends all wars. Communism/Socialism/Fascism is crushed which eliminates over 90% of frivlous laws and frivolous prosecutions/lawsuits under Roman Civil Law/Napoleanic Civil Law. US borders are closed 100%, and only opened to nations that adopt the US Constitution, US wages, US environmental laws, and fully equalize all other relevant laws (ie Fair Trade). US military is only used to defend US borders. 30-million criminal aliens are arrested and deported. Export of US oil is stopped, US oil wells are uncapped, and pumping US oil back into the ground is stopped. All government buildings are required to have solar panels Made-In-USA. Nuke bomb plants/factories are replaced with solar, wind and geothermal farms. Alcohol Prohibition is repealed and US farmers are required to have moonshine stills to manufacture clean-burning alcohol for motor vehicles. Drug Prohibition is repealed to put the CIA and Bush Crime family and mafias out of business. Income tax is repealed (ending partnership of church and state via 501c3 contract). Property tax is repealed. Sales tax is repealed. US government pays US citizens to live in USA, like Alaska state government pays residents to live in Alaska. 90% of government employees are fired. Traffic copsters are replaced with ambulance crews and skid-control school instructors, and all adults are required to own guns and educated in law of self defense and citizen's arrest. Theft of $70-trillion/year in CAFR government pension funds is stopped and used to fund government. Federal Reserve Bankster Corporation is terminated, and power to print money is returned to US government. Medical doctors are arrested, tried and executed for 2.5-million murders in USA every year, until the murders stop. The child-sacrifice idol of Molech in Bohemian Grove is exploded with TNT in a live nationally televised fireworks display on all TV news channels on the 4th of July. Yale Skull & Bones is opened to the public. Luciferian "Jewish" Freemasonry (ADL B'Nai B'Rith) is outlawed. The 10 Commandments of law are displayed in all schools and court houses. Pedophiles are executed in public (just like on Battlestar Galactica). Then I could live my life free from armed robbery by Police State Death Squads, and earn a wealthy living, just by minding my own business.
Then I remember 95% of people are merely illiterate sheeple, who love their slavery and pretend they are free, without ambition to be anything else, without the intelligence to be anything else, without the genetics to be anything else, who volunteer for braindamage and mind kontrol chemicals in water, air, food (including drugs, meds and "vaccines"), who willingly sign numerous slave contracts and worship genocidal Gangsta Govt as their GOD.
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In my brightest dreams greed is not believed the ultimate source of all that is good. People know it leads to insecurity and hate and waste. Everyone understands that having enough for health, comfort, security - but not more - leads to good lives.
Nearly everything I know I learned by the grace of others.
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Originally posted by rue:
In my brightest dreams greed is not believed the ultimate source of all that is good. People know it leads to insecurity and hate and waste. Everyone understands that having enough for health, comfort, security - but not more - leads to good lives.
Well, that didn't take long. I had hoped to see more personal, real life comments here, instead of the standard political rhetoric.
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(Not to be taken seriously, I think what we hope for is personal and real life in nature.)
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Originally posted by christ he cynic:
Well, that didn't take long. I had hoped to see more personal, real life comments here, instead of the standard political rhetoric.
By following my previous rant, US government would thus pay US citizens to live in USA, like Alaska state government currently pays residents to live in Alaska. Same is true in all other nations. With freedom from armed robbery and freedom from slavery, goes freedom to enjoy the 'Verse. It's foolish to pretend we are not all engaged in a shootin' war every day of our lives, whether or not FMJs are whizzing past your helmet. Why do ya think poisoned "vaccines" are called "shots"?
It's foolish to sit in a foxhole and tell jokes, as the enemy sneaks up on you. It's follish to trust gangsters in government who want to rob, rape, kill or enslave "their" citizens. There's a time to tell jokes, and laugh, even in war, just to keep your sanity, while those around you are losing theirs. But to pretend there's no war is the definition of insanity. Trusting Gangsta Govt with ANYTHING is suicide, due to signing slave contracts with an enemy that publishes official reports of its intent to genocide 90% of planet Earth.
The irony is that each person holds the keys to his or her freedom, by simply not participating in fraudulent slave contracts with Gangsta Govt. Which why the multinational Media Mafia and Public Fool System are used as a Weapons of Mass Deception. "Young and dumb" is the "perfect" citizen/slave.
I'm not kidding, these are my personal, real life comments, based on 45 years of getting robbed and stabbed by Communist Gangsta Govt and its JudeoFascist Mafia minions. And I'm a former gov't employee. Funny how gettin' robbed and poisoned can jade a person's sense of humor. Hindsight can be 20/20, which is still only half as clear as 20/10. What doesn't kill you makes you smarter, or dumber, as the case may be.
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Quote:Some of the comments people are making sound like they came right out of the papers of Karl Marx. So we all wish for world peace? So what? Do you want a cookie?
Originally posted by christhecynic:
(Not to be taken seriously, I think what we hope for is personal and real life in nature.)
I think I’d like to win the Nobel Prize in Physics and then retire a wealthy man on the proceeds from my best selling book that described my Nobel Prize winning achievement in laymen’s terms using a lot of convenient Star Trek-like analogies. Then I would write another best selling book with all my spare time, only this time, it would be a fantasy novel set in between the Roman and Saxon worlds, which would also become a best-seller and I could finally buy an all stone 6000 sq.ft house on a crag overlooking the ocean somewhere along the Atlantic coast. Also I would own a mint condition 1988 Corvette Calloway Sledgehammer.
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-- Ruby
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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:Quote:Some of the comments people are making sound like they came right out of the papers of Karl Marx. So we all wish for world peace? So what? Do you want a cookie?
Originally posted by christhecynic:
(Not to be taken seriously, I think what we hope for is personal and real life in nature.)
I think I’d like to win the Nobel Prize in Physics and then retire a wealthy man on the proceeds from my best selling book that described my Nobel Prize winning achievement in laymen’s terms using a lot of convenient Star Trek-like analogies. Then I would write another best selling book with all my spare time, only this time, it would be a fantasy novel set in between the Roman and Saxon worlds, which would also become a best-seller and I could finally buy an all stone 6000 sq.ft house on a crag overlooking the ocean somewhere along the Atlantic coast. Also I would own a mint condition 1988 Corvette Calloway Sledgehammer.
Come on Finn, this sounds just a bit like something that would be written in a Capitalist manifesto

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Greatest Dream?
Serenity 2 gets the greenlight, finally gets its due, followed by Serenity 3, and the inevitable return to TV.
Oh, and Wash and Book aren't gone, it was allllll a bad River dream.... Too Dallas?
Sorry to highjack the thread. I so hate seeing good people I've come to respect argue, unless you all don't mind a good tussle in some mud. Hey, why is it only for the ladies? Come on guys, let's see them speedo's.
If I'm a bitch, then life just got interesting
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Originally posted by piratenews:
Medical doctors are arrested, tried and executed for 2.5-million murders in USA every year, until the murders stop. The child-sacrifice idol of Molech in Bohemian Grove is exploded with TNT in a live nationally televised fireworks display on all TV news channels on the 4th of July. Yale Skull & Bones is opened to the public. Luciferian "Jewish" Freemasonry (ADL B'Nai B'Rith) is outlawed. The 10 Commandments of law are displayed in all schools and court houses. Pedophiles are executed in public (just like on Battlestar Galactica)
Don't forget: all witches, doctors and heathens are to be flogged and then burned at the stake. On live TV, so people know ain't nobody thwarting the mighty Sky King's will.
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Hmmm... my operation goes well, I re-up with the NG, make it the rest of the way through JFKSWC, find out a new season of Firefly's been made while I was gone, watch it while enjoying my civilian job as a member of the Maryland State Trooper STATE team, get deployed to Afghan, meet up with Sgt. Peitch and Sanders, come back, second Serenity movie has been released, several mor seasons of Firefly expected, meet Summer Glau at a convention, woo her into my manly loving arms, get deployed again (Columbia), die from machine gun fire a week before returning home, get a funeral plot next to my grandfather at Arlington, receive some sort of posthumous medal to hang on my grave, Ms. Glau leaves a rose for me and moves on with her life, family and friends remember me happily and move on as well.
(Scene fades out to black as "The Blood of CuChullain" begins to play)
Yeah, it'd make a great movie. At this point I think the best I can expect is just to die and be forgotten, though. Still, thanks for the thread, I think it helps a little to be able to endluge just enough to pretend like it's actually possible.
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IN my perfect world I am able to go about takin out stupid drivers when I see them drivin stupid.Vaporising vehical and driver with a single glance.
Im able to stop stupid long criminal trails by vaporising the attorneys with a single glance.
I am able to vaporise greedy people with a single glance.
I can vaporise entire armies of stupid suicide bombers as well as single ones.
hmm...I guess if I could just vaporise things with a single glance that would be a start at a perfect world.
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Not for the rest of us 
Lest us not forget the great prophet:
The main goal of the future is to stop violence. The world is addicted to it.
- Bill Cosby
All praise be the great Bill Cosby.
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Quote:And that's why Marx was wrong.
Originally posted by citizen:
Come on Finn, this sounds just a bit like something that would be written in a Capitalist manifesto
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Quote:Actually I think that was personal. Just because it isn't limited to an individual or selfish doesn't mean it isn't "personal"- some people just have an expanded sense of things that they care deeply about.
Well, that didn't take long. I had hoped to see more personal, real life comments here, instead of the standard political rhetoric.
And as for dreams- why make them "real life"? Isn't that what dreams are NOT supposed to be??? Reminds me of a scene from- I dunno, "Man From Uncle" or some such- two people crawling thru the desert. First person wishes for water, the other for champagne. First person looks at the second funny, and second person replies: "Well, we're not about to get either, so if you're going to wish, wish big".
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So, my dreams:
My family gets healthy and we all live healthfully and productively to at least 120.
The world comes to its sense and kicks out the greedy bastards that make everyone else miserable. (Notice I didn't say anything about vaporizing people? Guess I'm just a good man. Well, I guess I'm alright)
Everyone voluntarily decides to have only one child per couple for the forseeable future.
Firefly comes back to TV.
Rewards go to those who work not those who steal.
The concept of intellectual property goes the way of the dodo.
Everyone gets all hyped up about global warming and starts on a massive reforestation campaign.
Everyone get all hyped up about invasive species and really inspects imports and exports.
Firefly comes back to TV but not under Fox.
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OH, and Finn and Auraptor and Hero get some bright and shiny dreams they can call their own so they don't have to go tearing down others'.
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Quote:No. Dreams have to be real life, otherwise they are just fantasies.
Originally posted by SignyM:
And as for dreams- why make them "real life"? Isn't that what dreams are NOT supposed to be???
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Quote:Actually, that is my most sincere personal wish for a better world. I have posted about it many times. It came to me literally in a dream, and it was so convincing it was like a conversion. That's why I don't think of it as political - it's more like religious. Except without god.
Well, that didn't take long. I had hoped to see more personal, real life comments here, instead of the standard political rhetoric.
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Quote:If you don't object to peoples' dark unrealistic fantasies, why do you object to their bright dreams?
Dreams have to be real life
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Quote:Who said I objected to anyone’s “bright dreams?” And who said I don’t object to anyone’s “dark unrealistic fantasies.” I don't necessarily, but why would you even assume that? Hell, I didn’t even post in that thread.
Originally posted by rue:
If you don't object to peoples' dark unrealistic fantasies, why do you object to their bright dreams?

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Originally posted by ChrisMoorhead:
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Omigod, I LOVE that song! That would be AWESOME at a funeral!
...Errrr...not to be disrespectful or morbid or anything, but props to your taste in instrumentals....
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Pretty simple really.
I'm happy. You're happy. My family is happy. My friends are happy. The world population is happy. We're all just pleasantly happy and enjoying living life in whatever way we prefer.
Yeah, I know, never gonna happen, but I can dream.
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Quote:This isn't an objection? A criticism? A negative judgement? My bad. I didn't realize it was a supportive comment.
No. Dreams have to be real life, otherwise they are just fantasies.
Well duh, I realize you didn't post in the other thread. That was exactly my point.
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Finn, love the house, though I'd build mine in Cornwall looking the other way.
I was considering all kinds of things including a kind of "taken away" scenario where all the world's spammers, telemarketeers, and conmen "Raptured" their way straight to Hell.
But that's not a great thing to wish for. I want long life and good health for my partner, because I can't really live without her, health and happiness for my family and friends and some sanity for the world.
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Quote:No. It’s not an objection, a criticism or a negative judgment. It’s a distinction.
Originally posted by rue:
This isn't an objection? A criticism? A negative judgement? My bad. I didn't realize it was a supportive comment.
And I didn’t post in the other thread because the opportunity or the interest didn’t present itself, I guess. It wasn't because I have an objection to it.
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Quote:It would definitely look better in Cornwall, I agree. But the price of property in the UK, these days?
Originally posted by Fletch2:
Finn, love the house, though I'd build mine in Cornwall looking the other way.

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That would be because we're at least the second most overpopulated country in the world 
(not sure about that, but I remember a report saying the Tokyo had the same number of people per square mile as London).
Cornwall, like much of Wales is quite cheap though (no jobs
). I remember my father was looking to buy a place and he asked what he could get for our semi in Surrey, the responce was:
"How much of the county do you want?"...
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Quote:Well, that didn't take long. I had hoped to see more personal, real life comments here, instead of the standard political rhetoric.
Originally posted by Giantevilhead:
To crush my enemies, to see them driven before me, and to hear the lamentations of their women.
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So anyway, to get back to your judgement "Dreams have to be real life otherwise they're just fantasies", I was wondering why you felt you could set the standards for what gets posted on the thread.
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Quote:Is that what you were wondering? Well, that's a dumb thing to wonder.
Originally posted by rue:
So anyway, to get back to your judgement "Dreams have to be real life otherwise they're just fantasies", I was wondering why you felt you could set the standards for what gets posted on the thread.

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Since the term Corporatism was coined by Mussolini, who called it the 'merger of corporation and state' and thought it was a good idea, or the perfect idea; And since Mussolini was a fascist, and evil, and the enemy of the west, of which I think we are all a part: I don't think anti-Corporatism really constitutes a political point of view.
That's like saying if someone said "Nazi's are bad" turning around and saying "oh there you go with your political zionist rant again."
I don't think that the idea "Corporatism is bad" is really one that is even a matter of debate at this point. I think "Bush is Corporatism" is something you could try to debate, but you would be starting from a losing position. If you wanted to argue "the good in Bush outweighs the bad" I don't envy you, but this is probably where you would have to begin.
Logically, the counterstatement to Chrisisall's statement becomes this one: "Corporatism is good" which doesn't just imply, but actually inherently states "Mussolini was right." Since this is an absolutely untennable political position, I think it makes Chris' statement not particularly political. Certainly not a partisan point.
Anyway,
I think that the way in which corporatism fails is that it makes the govt. into a giant leech that drain life from a society and gives nothing in return, eventually the people hate govt., and eschew it. I think the natural end to corporatism in America, if we don't manage to replace it with something better, is that United States of America will die. Within 10 or 15 years. All of the business and culture of America will continue to exist, but everyone will secede from the leech state. I don't think that at the present time, a USA which is seemingly completely incapable of conquering Iraq could even conceivably take New York, let alone more than one state at a time, let alone half of them or more.
Iraq has a population of 23 million prior to the US invasion, 12 million of whom are adults, terrain is desert. 1 in 3 are armed, relatively few have advanced degrees.
Population of Iraq: 23 Million
Population of New York: 17 Million
Adult Population of Iraq: 12 Million
Adult Population of New York: 13 Million
Square Mileage of Iraq: 171600
Square Mileage of New York: 54471.144
But since much of Iraq is uninhabited, uninhabitable desert, it's really under twice the size.
Number of international airports in Iraq: 2
Number of international airports in New York: 13
GDP of Iraq: $36B
GDP of New York: $988B
Terrain of Iraq: Flat, open, steppeland.
Terrain of New York: Low lying mountains and forest.
Gun ownership in New York is probably even higher of that in Iraq, most of the citizens are educated, and whereas Iraq had one luke-warm potential ally on its borders and many hostile states, a secessionist New York would have two strong allies and no enemies: Canada would undoubtedly support the idea, as would New England, which has always been more averse to federal control than New York has.
While this idea may seem extreme, and is, the New Yorker printed something about NYC session fairly recently, and they weren't really joking. I think right now, a federal union like the USA has to make a very strong case to a state like NY which pays roughly half of its own revenue to support the union, and gets virtually nothing out of the relationship. And please don't say "oh it gets defense." New York has been dying for years to take over its own defense as it is thoroughly convinced that its own resources are superior to that of the federal govt.
I'm sure if anyone here is from California that they have worked out a similar argument.
Anyway, if it's not too political, in my brighest moments I hope that we as a species will organize a way to force ourselves to respect the Earth.
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Quote:I failed to see the distinction, so I dragged out the old internet dictionary (I can't believe I'm doing this) and found the following:
And as for dreams- why make them "real life"? Isn't that what dreams are NOT supposed to be??? -Signy
No. Dreams have to be real life, otherwise they are just fantasies.-Finn
DREAM- Series of mental images and emotions occurring during sleep; a cherished desire; imaginative thoughts indulged in while awake; a state of mind characterized by abstraction and release from reality; indulge in a fantasy; someone or something wonderful
So I don't think this IS a distinction, I think this is dyspeptic interference from someone who apparently has no heartfelt dreams to call his own.
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Quote:I propose that we just stop wondering anything at all about Finn since he apparently has nothing to contribute.
So anyway, to get back to your judgement "Dreams have to be real life otherwise they're just fantasies", I was wondering why you felt you could set the standards for what gets posted on the thread.- Rue
Is that what you were wondering? Well, that's a dumb thing to wonder.- Finn


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Quote:That’s your opinion, for all its worth. I was wondering which of you was going to make the first personal attack.
Originally posted by SignyM:
So I don't think this IS a distinction, I think this is dyspeptic interference from someone who apparently has no heartfelt dreams to call his own.
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Dreamtrove: I like your dream about respecting Mother Earth. Although I'm not sure we should be respecting her so much as fearing her. After all, this IS "lifeboat earth".
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Iraq vs New York, I'm willing to bet that Iraqis are more prepared to fight a war than most New Yorkers...
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Iraq vs New York, I'm willing to bet that Iraqis are more prepared to fight a war than most New Yorkers...
Perhaps emotionally, but not physically. New Yorkers are much better organized with a large amount of international connections. But this is a hypothetical, and if it goes any further the NSA is going to inform the president to attack New York.
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Originally posted by thatweirdgirl:
Pretty simple really.
I'm happy. You're happy. My family is happy. My friends are happy. The world population is happy. We're all just pleasantly happy and enjoying living life in whatever way we prefer.
Yeah, I know, never gonna happen, but I can dream.
No offence, and I mean that, but that sounds so incredibly depressing boring I think it would defeat itself almost immediately.
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Originally posted by rue:Quote:Actually, that is my most sincere personal wish for a better world. I have posted about it many times. It came to me literally in a dream, and it was so convincing it was like a conversion. That's why I don't think of it as political - it's more like religious. Except without god.
Well, that didn't take long. I had hoped to see more personal, real life comments here, instead of the standard political rhetoric.
I agree, it is a personal belief. It is also a real life comment. I was just saying that because, well, if you read above you knew it was coming any time someone said something that was actually deeply personal.
Since I said it instead of waiting for someone else I imediately got to tag it with, "Not to be taken seriously," in the next post.
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Quote:Yeah, but what about Iraq vs Detroit?
Originally posted by citizen:
Iraq vs New York, I'm willing to bet that Iraqis are more prepared to fight a war than most New Yorkers...
There’s some burley no-shit-taking guys in Detroit. Oh, he's so full of manure, that man! We could lay him in the dirt and grow another one just like him.
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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Yeah, but what about Iraq vs Detroit? There’s some burley no-shit-taking guys in Detroit.
A swift knee in the happy sacks and they drop just like anyone else...
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Crap, how'd this thread about the shiny get so ugly. Guys?
In my favorite dreams, abstractions, fantasies, cherished desires and imaginative thoughts, I think science is just a breath away from capturing the unifying theory of everydarn thing. Then we will understand from a left brain perspective that everything really is 'one' on the most fundamental level, and we'll decide to stop kicking the crap out of each other and the planet in general. On that happy note.....
Quote:Citizen my friend, I think you just kneed yourself in the, you know, and can I get you an icepack? cause it kinda hurts.
Originally posted by citizen:A swift knee in the happy sacks and they drop just like anyone else...

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Are you kidding, the abillity to knee myself there must be worth a lot of money...
Going on the road, CitizenIsRipping off Chris.
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How'd you do that so fast? I thought you had dial-up.
Well, just look what dogs can do, that's a much more pleasant thing to make a lot of money with, you know, if you want a contortionist recipe for success. 
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True, but this is unique.
2mb Broadband, CitizenIsToo fast for his own good.
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Yes but then you'd have to spend time on those uniquely disturbing television interview programs to show off this unique talent.
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Quote:Ah, bliss. How did I miss that? It's one of my favorites.
I think science is just a breath away from capturing the unifying theory of everydarn thing. Then we will understand from a left brain perspective that everything really is 'one' on the most fundamental level, and we'll decide to stop kicking the crap out of each other and the planet in general.
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It also sounds exactly like what they were saying at the end of the 19th century... Then Einstien came along and screwed all that up...
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Signy, maybe you were too busy defending yourself against some of the personal attacks in this thread to remember 
Citizen, too bad Einstein didn't figure out where he went wrong with the math, because I think he pretty much got the other idea... check this out from the big E "A human being is part of the whole, called by us 'universe', a part limited in time and space. He experiences his thoughts and feelings as something separate from the rest - a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a prison for us, restricting us to our personal decisions and to affection for a few persons nearest us." Maybe some percentage of the species needs to have rethought the perception of consciousness to move from the illusion of 'separate' before we can see things from the next perspective. I'm just sayin' I think we're close, I think we get to be there for this paradigm shift. Wouldn't that be fun?
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Quote:Well, that didn't take long. I had hoped to see more personal, real life comments here, instead of the standard political rhetoric.
Originally posted by citizen:
Then Einstien came along and screwed all that up...
You just don't like Einstein 'cause he was a Republican...
Chrisisall, no Einstein-basher
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:Well, that didn't take long. I had hoped to see more personal, real life comments here, instead of the standard political rhetoric.
Originally posted by citizen:
Then Einstien came along and screwed all that up...
You just don't like Einstein 'cause he was a Republican...
Or because he was a faggot, according to Kay Griggs.
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Suddenly, I miss AURaptor...
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Quote:Not these guys. You haven’t seen tough until you’ve seen a Detroit longshoreman or a railroad worker in zero degree weather with ice hanging from their faces. These guys’ balls are frozen solid.
Originally posted by citizen:
A swift knee in the happy sacks and they drop just like anyone else...
Oh, he's so full of manure, that man! We could lay him in the dirt and grow another one just like him.
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Quote:On a technical note, I must agree with you, Finn. Even puny lil' ole' me got kicked square in the nards once during a fight- didn't even feel it 'till after I put the guy on his ass.
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:Quote:Not these guys. You haven’t seen tough until you’ve seen a Detroit longshoreman or a railroad worker in zero degree weather with ice hanging from their faces. These guys’ balls are frozen solid.
Originally posted by citizen:
A swift knee in the happy sacks and they drop just like anyone else...
I can only imagine what those guys can take...
Not-so-tough Chrisisall
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Well, that didn't take long. I had hoped to see more personal, real life comments here, instead of the standard political rhetoric.
Quote:PN, honey, tooth fairy says you can be nice or you can be a gay Jewish boy in Iran on your next spin of the wheel of fortune. I'm cheering for the nice. Where's that darn piratebeer emoti when I want it. oh well, this will have to do
Originally posted by piratenews:Or because he was a faggot, according to Kay Griggs.

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Quote:I’ve never been kicked in the jewels by anyone who wanted to hurt me. It’s always people who don’t. My little niece runs up to hug me or jumps in my lap, or once I was swinging my keys on a chain. It’s always stupid stuff like that and it makes you want to slap yourself. But never from people trying to hurt me; seems like they’ve broken everything else, but never that.
Originally posted by chrisisall:
On a technical note, I must agree with you, Finn. Even puny lil' ole' me got kicked square in the nards once during a fight- didn't even feel it 'till after I put the guy on his ass.
I can only imagine what those guys can take...
Oh, he's so full of manure, that man! We could lay him in the dirt and grow another one just like him.
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One time, not in the heat of battle- therefore no adreneline assist, I got kicked in the cajones by a friend at Karate during friendly sparring. It didn't make me fall, but I shoulda got an Oscar for my acting job, you know, not cryin' and all.
Chrisisall, with the sweet ball-ball anecdotes
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It works on two metre high armour plated killing machines with more teeth than the entire Osmond familly put together...
Stealing Chris's signicture thing CitizenIsn't giving it back.
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I just wish we lived in a world were humanity mattered the most , where life , not just human life and the quality of all life came first and was the most important thing.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Everyone voluntarily decides to have only one child per couple for the forseeable future.
Over my dead body. I am an only child...I don't recomend it.
Personally, I want to get married, have my 3 or 4 kids, work out of my home (so that I can be there for said children) and enjoy some sort of domestic bliss balanced by a few spats here and there.
Because you need some bad times to be able to appreciate the good ones.
Wash: Yeah, but psychic? That sounds like science fiction.
Zoe: You live on a spaceship, dear.
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