Joss' word on the CW rumors
POSTED BY: CABridges
UPDATED: Monday, March 6, 2006 23:04
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Just posted by fearless leader at the Whedonesque boards ( http://whedonesque.com/comments/9548):
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Abusing links is the only way I know how to live. But I am here with a purpose, my friends. Call me joss Whedon: Rumor Crusher! (Or "Mister Fendendo", if we're being intimate.)
Since everyone's all abuzz with the CW rumor, I have to get all official and say: WE'VE STARTED FILMING NEW EPISODES! Of Dateline. I'm such a troll.
No, there haven't been any overtures from the CW as regards a SereniFly spin-off. I haven't even heard the orchestra tuning up. But if they happen to come calling, I do know what I would do:
1) In order to keep the show cost efficient, we would get rid of a few things we don't need, like spaceships, floors, and Jewel. (You thought I was gonna say 'costumes', didn't you? Porn guy.)
2) Nathan is busy making movies, but since I don't want new cast members, everybody in the cast would just move over one. Jewel (she's back!) would play Mal, Ron would play Kaylee, Morena would play Book, and so on.
3) People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy.
4) The actors can make up their dialogue. I'm bushed, and they're all funny, and the hell with it. Maybe I'll give them a premise to work off of, like "You're all in trouble" or "Wash has a thing". They could maybe light it too.
5) Klingons, but not alien Klingons. But still Klingons.
So already the show is running like a well oiled companion. I'm just proud to be a part of the Country Western network, and I know this will be their biggest hit since "Have Space-Gun, Will Travel."
I hope, as always, this clears things up. And I hope the executives at the Carnie Wilson network DO give me a call. I've got a million ideas for redoing their offices.
Power to the people who are powerful enough to crush the other people! -jossy.
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I admit to being new to Joss..but I have read all the articles/threads/people drinking too much hate-orade so i know what is out there...but...having read that...
does he WANT to do this again? That post is hard to read....God I want this show back...
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If there WERE overtures he would never tell us. That'd be a deal-killer fer sher.
Think about corporate mergers: Anybody who finds out about it in advance and blabs gets fired, anybody who acts on that info gets thrown in jail for insider trading, and the poor stiffs who work for either company had just keep scratchin out their 9-to-5s until they hear it on CNN. If we hear it, it prolly ain't true.
In other words, Joss is havin fun with us... but only time will tell.
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Probably true, probably true...but why say anything at all if that is the case?
I fall in the category with most of us I guess...I cling to every slightly miniscule piece of good news hoping it is "the one"...
I am the Morpheus of firefly....maybe i can go to dinner with gina and lawrence...
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Originally posted by trio:
I admit to being new to Joss..but I have read all the articles/threads/people drinking too much hate-orade so i know what is out there...but...having read that...
does he WANT to do this again? That post is hard to read....God I want this show back...
That's just Joss being Joss. That man couldn't write a serious post if his life depended on it.
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Well good on him for getting in there and debunking that rumor quickly. Now I don't have to wonder anymore. I didn't think it was true, but I did have a tiny glimmer of hope. *sigh*
As for the, "He's not allowed to tell us if something really is being talked about" stance, my thinking is that he would just refrain from commenting were that the case. I seriously doubt he would lie about it. Stupid rumors. *grumble*
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Originally posted by Groosalugg:
That's just Joss being Joss. That man couldn't write a serious post if his life depended on it.
And if he did post because his life depended on it, I'm sure he would say something like, "Ask for me tomorrow, and you'll find me a grave man."
*hopes no one guesses she's an English major*
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I say flame that rumor-wench.
Seriously.
No. I swear, for once I'm being serious.
Ok, no I'm not. But I do say we should have some strong words for her. Ooooo...does she know what she'll get if she gets all these Browncoats ticked off?
Kaele
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BTW:
Anyone else getting the STRONG feeling that he's awfully possessive of this show?
Why else defend it so quickly, making sure we know right from wrong. Albeit in Joss-speak, but still...
Kaele
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Disappointing =/.
"Th3re !s n0 spo0Ne." -The Matricks
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did anyone else like the premise of "Wash has a thing"?
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Although his posts make me laugh hard enough to fall out of my chair (and this one did), it also crushes my hopes....ruthlessly crushes my hopes...
damn it all...
How much is that little Geisha in the window?
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And once again my dreams are dashed. At least today had been filled with flirty hope-hope.
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"You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought....."
Wanna Know something? I really liked the Star Wars Prequels. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
I Love Star Wars and Firefly. Isn't it unbelievable??!?!?!
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I think this is all my fault. Everything that I've ever rooted for or been a fan of ( EXCEPT forthe 2004 Detroit Pistons--YEAH!!!) has been on the loosing side. 31 years and counting. Sigh.....
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Curses! Saffroned again!
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See, this is why you should never get your hopes up to begin with. We all love Firefly, but I think it's become pretty evident that there's not going to be a continuation of this show in any kind of television or movie realm. The sooner you all understand that, the sooner you can allow the healing process to begin.
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Even with disappointing news, he's still hilarious
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Come on guys. Use your heads.
If you pay attention you'll see that for the purposes of legal and "dont put your foot in your mouth" practices, producers and actors will often say and maintain certain points of interest up until the exact second in which something is down on paper. Don't put too much stock in any one thing.
If someone saw them come out of that building, and there are whispers, no matter what the cast themselves say, it is a good sign. Of course they can't say anything; there's obligations. But the press can. And since this isn't exactly Star Wars Episode IX, i can't see this being started for the purposes of mainstream attention. Don't get your hopes up, but don't ye despair yet, either.
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I refuse to lose hope that our beloved show will return in either a show or a movie.
I will wait until Joss says in a post, that the calvary has ridden in and we are getting a sequel or a new series, or a mini-series or a direct to DVD movie. I'm holdin'.
And I'll probably get my hopes up again and have them dashed again, but that's ok. I'm not gonna stop loving this show and characters and I'm not going anywhere.
" You hold. Hold til I get back." Mal
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Later on in the thread, Joss says he was getting calls from people's agents about the rumour.
http://whedonesque.com/comments/9548#110266
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Okay, now I'm miffed. I posted because we were literally getting calls from people's agents, so I had to officially speak up and I chose this forum and everybody accuses me of procrastinating when I wasn't even! (I was reading a book.) So quit picking on me, didn't you hear I had my license to write revoked by that angry comics guy? I'm very vulnerable right now.
Call Waiting
CatWoman
Cal Worthington
Candy Wrapper
Chuck Woolery...
Nope. Can't top Crack Whore.
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"...A well-oiled companion....."
...erm...i just got an uncalled for mental pic...
..erm...
Yep. I wonder if they serve keish in the Special Hell?
Anyhow, disappointing as it is, it's still nice to hear from Joss Himself.
I'm babbling like a moonbrain.
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Originally posted by FollowMal:
I refuse to lose hope that our beloved show will return in either a show or a movie.
I will wait until Joss says in a post, that the calvary has ridden in and we are getting a sequel or a new series, or a mini-series or a direct to DVD movie. I'm holdin'.
And I'll probably get my hopes up again and have them dashed again, but that's ok. I'm not gonna stop loving this show and characters and I'm not going anywhere.
" You hold. Hold til I get back." Mal
Yep, that sounds like my kind of stupid ;p
I don't care if I'm old and decrepid, aliens come and take over and destroy all our tv's, or hell freezes over first... I won't care if I have to wait to be a hundred and fifty and all they can get is Mal's left buttock on a stool playing the first three bars of the theme song. :P
You can take my hope when you pry it out of my cold, dead hands.
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Originally posted by Scythe404:
Come on guys. Use your heads.
If you pay attention you'll see that for the purposes of legal and "dont put your foot in your mouth" practices, producers and actors will often say and maintain certain points of interest up until the exact second in which something is down on paper. Don't put too much stock in any one thing.
If someone saw them come out of that building, and there are whispers, no matter what the cast themselves say, it is a good sign. Of course they can't say anything; there's obligations. But the press can. And since this isn't exactly Star Wars Episode IX, i can't see this being started for the purposes of mainstream attention. Don't get your hopes up, but don't ye despair yet, either.
Definitely my opinion...lest we all forget Joss rambled similar inneuendo before he could officially announce the BDM. For me this is almost as good as Joss saying the series has returned. The CW must be careful not to announce their Fall lineup too prematurely.
While I don't think it is a done deal that the series is returning, I mentioned on another thread that a mini-series would allow the CW to gauge potential series interest, and I think that is the route they will take.
We need a Joss to Reality dicitionary...or a decoder ring (that would be cool)...notice he never says "we aren't coming back," he debunks a "Firefly spin-off" not Firefly/Serenity nor does he mention the CW by its correct name...semantics.
Just Believe.
We will hold...we hold till Mal gets back...wait do you see that on the horizon?
"And once you're gone, you can never come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black"
-Neil Young
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Saw that comin'.
Glad Joss posted w/ the whole "official" word on the CW rumor. Figured it was bunk.
Keep the faith & keep flyin' browncoats. We just need to keep pushing that shiny Serenity DVD & convert more new people. Just got to have patience (just make sure you don't turn your back on her
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even though i tried not to get excited as i knew it wasnt really true i still feel squashed like a bug.
however joss has a way of telling us bad things and making it so damned funny that it softens the blow.
im refraining from reading too much into his words on the matter as they just casue arguments.
"Dear diary: Today I was pompous and my sister was crazy. Today we were kidnapped by hill folk, never to be seen again. It was the best day ever."
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Hey, lookit! We're mentioned places other than our little corner of the 'verse:
http://www.moviehole.net/news/20060215_whedon_on_those_firefly_rumour.
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http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=22474
Sometimes it's hard being a Browncoat.
Kaele
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Originally posted by Kaele:
Sometimes it's hard being a Browncoat.
Reckon that's so, but I wouldn't trade being a browncoat for nothin' in the 'verse. It's been a bumpy ride for years now, but I would do it all again. I found this wonderful show, a great movie, and a great bunch of people here @ FFF.net.
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While of course I'm disappointed that Joss didn't come right out and say that they were deep in negotiations about another season of Firefly, I'm not really surprised. CW's a brand-new station, and taking on Firefly is a financially risky option. That does NOT mean, however, that they won't do so at some point.
I'm looking at it this way: actions speak much louder than words, and thus far there have been quite a few words bandied about, most of them vague. So what? It's called deniability. The action that sparked all this brou-haha was three of our favorite actors strolling out of the CW offices. They were there for a reason. Now, whether we're all making Mount Everest out of a mini-mole hill (definitely a possibility), or CW actually was making noises about possibly making an overture to maybe bring Firefly back, I don't know, nor does anyone, except people who can't talk as long as they value their jobs.
Until I hear a flat-out denial of any further episodes whatsoever, until Joss tells us to hang up our brown coats and stop running ourselves ragged in an effort to recruit more folks to The Cause, I am just going to remain a naive, optimistic fool. To quote a previous poster: "They can have my hope when they pry it out of my cold, dead fingers." Amen. 
Bring on the naysayers then! I can take 'em...

"There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.
There is another which states that this has already happened." - The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
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At this point, I think there's only one thing left to do... Kidnap Joss and the entire Firefly crew, forcing Joss to make endless phone calls until he gets back on TV and forcing the crew to act out fan scripts until the end of time. I've got some very strong rope we can use!
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Joss is so clever and funny! It's wonderful reading his posts, even if they contain bad news. Or seem to contain it. Thanks for that, CABridges!
He must have to be so careful about what he says that he has to write like that to protect himself and the cast and everything.
You know, somehow just hearing from him is encouraging, and I think everything's going to work out just fine in the end. 
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How do we know this is realy him?
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Originally posted by TinFoil:
At this point, I think there's only one thing left to do... Kidnap Joss and the entire Firefly crew, forcing Joss to make endless phone calls until he gets back on TV and forcing the crew to act out fan scripts until the end of time. I've got some very strong rope we can use!
Works for me.
(practicing cool rope tricks - ties slip knot,
twirls rope over head in a nifty sort of cowgirl-y
way, yells "HA!" and lassos filing cabinet with
real style)
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Quote:I'm with FollowMal and Nuclearday. I'm not so scared of losing hope that I'm not gonna try having it.
Originally posted by FollowMal:
And I'll probably get my hopes up again and have them dashed again, but that's ok. I'm not gonna stop loving this show and characters and I'm not going anywhere.
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Knew the rumors were too good to be true. I doubt all our dreams are going to come true so perfectly just out of the blue.
At least we all got a nice image of a well oiled companion.
And for those who think joss is just playing with his words so that he isn't really denying anything, I think that's a little delusional. This is just how joss posts. Plus I don't think people usually like to refer to the network they're doing business with as Crack Whore network (later in the thread).
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I like the Browncoat attitude -- "it still may happen".
It may or may not. I have no clue. I don't even know what I'm doing today, much less Joss Whedon.
However, I hope we don't turn into the likes of the Beatles fans who are still hoping for a Beatles reunion, even though half of the band is dead.
There will come a point when it would be silly to keep hoping, but that point hasn't arrived yet.
So, until then, we should remain positive, do our part (without stalking the actual cast & crew, of course), and hope for the best. 
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Hey now, stalking is a very important weapon in the Browncoat arsenal. Let's not throw anything out just yet, eh?
Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal, Fox!
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Originally posted by ndrage85:
did anyone else like the premise of "Wash has a thing"?
Yea, it cracked me up. Very seinfield.
-e
"Storms getting worse."
"We'll pass through it soon enough."
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Originally posted by derangedmilk:Quote:
Originally posted by ndrage85:
did anyone else like the premise of "Wash has a thing"?
Yea, it cracked me up. Very seinfield.
Looks like a thing to me.
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I think perhaps he is saying that even if he's given the ok to do the show again. Why go through all the angst again? He's tired of all the crap he has to take from all the higher ups and their opinions of where he wants to take his own program. They step right in and take over and tell him what he can and can't do--and then there are actors that want to input their say on dialouge, etc. It must be truly exhausting. Perhaps it's not as bad when it comes down to the big screen. Even if he's given a green light to small screen--he may not want to go that route again--and who can blame him. He's had a taste of more creative control on the big screen. It would be a director's dream. The show was his baby and was manipulated and then nixed. He's most likely still a bit pissed about it. I'm betting on seeing a new installment on an HBO, Cinemax, etc--or theatrical release. Just my opinion. Just reading between the lines of his comments here.
*Never judge a book by it's movie*
*The heart is an artist that paints over what profoundly disturbs it, leaving on the canvas a less dark,less sharp version of the truth*--D.Koontz (Forever Odd)
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Wait. I thought our thing was harrassment? You know, like the whole mass mailing thing. Letters, phone calls, magazine ads. Well, that and virus marketing.
Man, now I gotta go out and get some stalking gear.
Work. Work. Work.
Kaele
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Originally posted by globlabsurdity:
I think perhaps he is saying that even if he's given the ok to do the show again. Why go through all the angst again?
I read it as more along the lines of "I'll only do the show if the proper resources are in place and I have doubts as to CW having the willingness to provide those resources." Maybe I'm wrong and I hate to put words into another persons mouth (particularly puting words into the mouth of somebody who is much better at words than I am) but that's the vibe I'm taking away from this.
And hey there is still good news. We will be getting more comics and there still is hope for a Serenity sequel of some form. Sure I'd prefer a new series, TV is Firefly's native medium after all, but movies are fun to watch as well.
David
"A lot of people are asking me, you know, what exactly is Firefly? It's a tv show you morons!" - Joss Whedon
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Originally posted by teethgrinder:
I think this is all my fault. Everything that I've ever rooted for or been a fan of ( EXCEPT forthe 2004 Detroit Pistons--YEAH!!!) has been on the loosing side. 31 years and counting. Sigh.....
No, it's my fault. I'm a Raiders fan. No head coach will touch us, not even one who is DESPERATE to get a head coaching job in the NFL. We can't do anything right. We even took Randy Moss from superstar to superlame. We screw everything up. Just lose, baby.

Anyway, I enjoy reading posts from Joss. He's really funny and he has a talent for telling us the bad news in a good way.
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He said on the commentary in the DVD that he liked the small screen as well as the big...
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Hello All,
Here's my take on this. Instead of being down in the dumps our rumor was smashed why don't we keep doing what we are doing to push for more Firefly/Serenity? No point in fretting over what we can't control. But maybe we should be flooding CW with e-mails and letters to let them know we are loyal to the show and will do what we can to get more Firefly. The fanbase is still growing, and it seems whoever watches it for the first time becomes addicted for life. In the mean time, gather more fans, buy the dvd's and keep spreading the word to everyone you know. I think there is hope, we just need to be patient and never give up!
IS
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Originally posted by IsaacShepherd:
No point in fretting over what we can't control
But maybe we should be flooding CW with e-mails and letters to let them know we are loyal to the show and will do what we can to get more Firefly.
(fret, fret, fret...)
Lifted this from another thread "How to Contact
CW" posted by BARCLAY:
Dawn Ostraff
UPN
11800 Wilshire Blvd
Los Angeles, California 90025
Anyone else who can't give up, just can't, write
to this person. I intend to beg shamelessly - but
politely of course.
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Just Believe.
We will hold...we hold till Mal gets back...wait do you see that on the horizon?
"And once you're gone, you can never come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black"
-Neil Young
I'm new here, but I have to agree with GrimJack in regards to Joss's post. Belief is our strongest ally. From everything I know, it was the belief of the fans that got us a movie and has kept this, our beloved 'verse, spinning.
I believe.
However, while our belief in continuation may, quite possibly, never be realized, we need not believe but rather KNOW that the SereniFly 'verse has become too powerful to just fade away without a word. As GrimJack said, we hold. We hold until they get back.
"...there's a whole universe of folk who are gonna know it too. They're gonna see it. Somebody has to speak for these people." -Mal
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Guys, if you're on DIGG, digg my story on Joss Whedon's commnets...people always post Firefly related stuff on there
http://digg.com/movies/Joss_Whedon_debunks_CW_rumors_of_Firefly_Season
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I like the idea of begging and all, but how about a more devious route? I think we should write to them and say how happy we are that they chose to revive Firefly. Saying we are now their biggest fans and we can't wait for their network to hit our tvs so we can tune in and throw out or remotes because we'll never need to change the channel again.
It's much easier to say no to a begging request than to tell someone that they're wrong about watching their channel.
"No, you're mistaken. You shouldn't watch our network, because we didn't pick up Firefly. Sorry about the misunderstanding."
No one wants to say that.
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I've seen the commentary--yes, he did say that. I've also read alot of comments he's made in interviews about what he went through during the making of Firefly. It was a struggle for him to tell his story his way. Creative control was not entirely in his hands--I'm not a writer--but I can tell you that I'd be LIVID if I'd have to deal with what he's had to deal with. Also, when I say 'perhaps' in regards to Joss--I'm not putting words in his mouth--that's why the 'perhaps' is there. It's to bring out the hypothetical aspect to the thought I'm presenting--or just the thought that's coming out of my @ss--however anyone wants to take it--lol.
For the record--I want as badly as the rest of you to see our show back on the little screen. I'm just trying to see things from what might 'perhaps' be Joss' point of view having to deal with all the politics of hollywood--from having read his own comments.
Cheers.
*Never judge a book by it's movie*
*The heart is an artist that paints over what profoundly disturbs it, leaving on the canvas a less dark,less sharp version of the truth*--D.Koontz (Forever Odd)
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Originally posted by Zeek:
I like the idea of begging and all, but how about a more devious route? I think we should write to them and say how happy we are that they chose to revive Firefly. Saying we are now their biggest fans and we can't wait for their network to hit our tvs so we can tune in and throw out or remotes because we'll never need to change the channel again.
LMAO! That is truly a grand and devious idea! *snerk* And like all the best evil plans, you can always claim total ignorance and blame it on Kristen's rumours ;p I can't really see a worst-case scenario there...
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Originally posted by Zeek:
I like the idea of begging and all, but how about a more devious route? I think we should write to them and say how happy we are that they chose to revive Firefly. Saying we are now their biggest fans and we can't wait for their network to hit our tvs so we can tune in and throw out or remotes because we'll never need to change the channel again.
It's much easier to say no to a begging request than to tell someone that they're wrong about watching their channel.
"No, you're mistaken. You shouldn't watch our network, because we didn't pick up Firefly. Sorry about the misunderstanding."
No one wants to say that.
LOL so do we all start writing emails now or what zeek? lol i will if someone instigates!
LOL make a thread with joss's post and this quote its HI-larious.-----
***someone should make a MMORPG based on the 'verse!***
Geeze i want Firefly to come back!
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Originally posted by nuclearday:Quote:
Originally posted by Zeek:
I like the idea of begging and all, but how about a more devious route? I think we should write to them and say how happy we are that they chose to revive Firefly. Saying we are now their biggest fans and we can't wait for their network to hit our tvs so we can tune in and throw out or remotes because we'll never need to change the channel again.
LMAO! That is truly a grand and devious idea! *snerk* And like all the best evil plans, you can always claim total ignorance and blame it on Kristen's rumours ;p I can't really see a worst-case scenario there...
Is Kristin a fan? Maybe that's why she started the rumors...
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Ain't. We. Just.
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I kinda like the idea where we're not begging too!
Gabi, you are new and you haven't been properly greeted... so consider yourself properly greeted... we're glad to have you.
*hands Gabi a browncoat.. you'll need one of
these*
Post often, we love to talk as you see.
" You hold. Hold til I get back." Mal
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BrowncoatRecruiter...
We're glad to have you too, and since you're out there recruiting you may need one of these.....
*hands Browncoatrecruiter a browncoat*
" You hold. Hold til I get back." Mal
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Hm.
Could be somethin'. Could be nothin' Course, I'm in New Zealand so even if CW does pick it up, I'm still going to have to wait for the gorram thing to come out on DVD anyway 
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Originally posted by Zeek:
I like the idea of begging and all, but how about a more devious route? I think we should write to them and say how happy we are that they chose to revive Firefly. Saying we are now their biggest fans and we can't wait for their network to hit our tvs so we can tune in and throw out or remotes because we'll never need to change the channel again.
It's much easier to say no to a begging request than to tell someone that they're wrong about watching their channel.
"No, you're mistaken. You shouldn't watch our network, because we didn't pick up Firefly. Sorry about the misunderstanding."
No one wants to say that.
LOL so do we all start writing emails now or what zeek? lol i will if someone instigates!LOL make a thread with joss's post and this quote its HI-larious.
I'll instigate it. Just give me the correct e-mail address to send it to.
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That's a great idea.
Put them in a position of having to choose between picking up the show, or turning away viewers (theoretically)loyal to the network before it even starts up.
I love it. I'm in.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Bless Joss and the 'verse through which he flies.
*sigh*
So, the rumor is de-bunkleated, for now. But that doesn't mean we quit, does it?
We be patient and wait it out.
Although, if Jewel plays Mal, and Ron plays Kaylee and Morena plays Book...
does that mean Sean plays Zoe, Alan is River and Adam is Wash? That could get really wierd....
(I sense a fanfic coming up....)
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*puts on browncoat* Thanks for the digs. Reckon it fits like a glove.
I'm all for inundating CW with requests and I'd do so gladly if we could get sanctions for the action. We wouldn't want the ploy to backfire and turn-off the execs by being presumptuous. Once we have a clearer picture of how things are developing, we should go all out, but I conjure it wouldn't hurt to have a go-ahead.
"...there's a whole universe of folk who are gonna know it too. They're gonna see it. Somebody has to speak for these people." -Mal
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Originally posted by BrownCoatRecruiter:
I'm all for inundating CW with requests and I'd do so gladly if we could get sanctions for the action. We wouldn't want the ploy to backfire and turn-off the execs by being presumptuous.
oops, were we supposed to wait for someone to say
Go? Too late. I already mailed my letter.
Handwritten snail mail, so someone might even read
it. I went with the no-begging idea, think it's
a good one.
Who's supposed to say Go anyway? Can anyone do that?
"GO!"
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Originally posted by itsbroken:Quote:
Originally posted by Zeek:
I like the idea of begging and all, but how about a more devious route? I think we should write to them and say how happy we are that they chose to revive Firefly. Saying we are now their biggest fans and we can't wait for their network to hit our tvs so we can tune in and throw out or remotes because we'll never need to change the channel again.
It's much easier to say no to a begging request than to tell someone that they're wrong about watching their channel.
"No, you're mistaken. You shouldn't watch our network, because we didn't pick up Firefly. Sorry about the misunderstanding."
No one wants to say that.
LOL so do we all start writing emails now or what zeek? lol i will if someone instigates!LOL make a thread with joss's post and this quote its HI-larious.
I'll instigate it. Just give me the correct e-mail address to send it to.
Please to give me the resources to make this happen, good people! I can be belly belly good at cranking out fanmails!
and by that I mean emails, though the snailmail addy above may get some trade as well....
"Kaylee, find me that kid takin' a dirt nap with baby Jesus; we need a hood ornament"
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Just a thought but is it possible that someone from the corpoartion (CW that is), would see us posting these crafty ideas? Perhaps I'm just cautious. But ya know, if we were all really Browncoats conspiring about a plan to take down the
Alliance, putting it on the Cortex would well, make things more interesting...for lack of a better word. I would think if they were considering picking it up someone would scout the net for what fans are saying(possibly those who hate it as well if any Browncoat has left em standin that is). Either way, I'm sending my letter out tomorrow and letting my friends know of the scheme. One way or another I'm determined to do what I can to help Firefly/Serenity continue.
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did anyone else like the premise of "Wash has a thing"?
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That thing being a big-ass harpoon in his chest, yes? Not to be confused with a big ass harpoon.
I hope Joss's pesimism is a result of his hope rather than any sort of bitterness ie The way we all deny we'll get into our first choice college because we hope so badly that we do. Joss will do what he wants and I'm sure I'll still admire the heck out of him either way.
SCREW A SPIKE MOVIE! I WANT A JAYNE MOVIE!!!
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Please to give me the resources to make this happen, good people! I can be belly belly good at cranking out fanmails!
and by that I mean emails, though the snailmail addy above may get some trade as well....
"Kaylee, find me that kid takin' a dirt nap with baby Jesus; we need a hood ornament"
Keep in mind, many network execs, as well as the heads of variouse "save-our-show" campaings have said several times that emails are virtually worthless - simply because one person could conceivably be sending in hundreds of emails that still only represent 1 viewer.
Snail mail, on the other hand, is regarded much more highly. Preferably hand-written letters, as a printed letter can be duplicated many times, even to different addressees, with little effort. A hand-written letter sent via snail mail is said to represent potentially hundreds of individuals in the minds of corporate execs, as the theory is that for every one person willing to put pen to paper, there are a hundred too lazy (or busy) to do so.
I speak as someone who wrote many a "Crackers DO matter!" letter to the Sci-Fi channel in support of Farscape.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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A hand-written letter sent via snail mail is said to represent potentially hundreds of individuals in the minds of corporate execs, as the theory is that for every one person willing to put pen to paper, there are a hundred too lazy (or busy) to do so.
I represent hundreds...? Ooh, that's a scary thing.

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uh oh I've created a monster huh?
I personally don't know any email address and would be happy to join the campaign if someone can find one.
It sorta reminds me of Mal getting Ath to let him dance with Inara. So, it should be right up our alley.
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Are you all certain this was really Joss. If so .... did he watch his last movie Serenity cause he should have paid attention to the fact that he ruthlessly killed Book and Wash but yet makes reference to both characters as part of this fantasy future episode. Just smells funny to me.
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I will start wrighting a letter...hmmm...lets see....NOW.....but does anyone have a proper address to send it too?
"If anything happens.... you takes this ship and you come and resuce me."
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No, it's my fault. I'm a Raiders fan.
*griiiiiins*
Well, I'm a Chiefs fan, so I'm quite willing to place the blame with you.
...
What?? I'm a Chiefs fan!
Luckily -- before I start a football jihad -- I'm not sure any blame needs to be placed. As far as I could see, Mr. Whedon only debunked current rumors. I didn't figure we'd get our shiny new series immediately, what with everyone having so much on their respective plates.
I didn't see a word about "never again". I choose to be blissfully oblivious to negativity and selectively vigilant of our esteemed Mr. Whedon's witty hints.
In other -- less adverby -- words, I wanna see what I wanna see. Heh.
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Please remember that the 9:30 show is completely different from the 7:30 show. Don't forget to tip your waitress.
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This is all I have to say.
"You're fighting a war you've already lost."
"Yeah, well I'm known for that."
As are all Browncoats. It doesn't matter how many people say you've lost as long as you keep fighting.
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Originally posted by IsaacShepherd:
No point in fretting over what we can't control
But maybe we should be flooding CW with e-mails and letters to let them know we are loyal to the show and will do what we can to get more Firefly.
(fret, fret, fret...)
Lifted this from another thread "How to Contact
CW" posted by BARCLAY:
Dawn Ostraff
UPN
11800 Wilshire Blvd
Los Angeles, California 90025
Anyone else who can't give up, just can't, write
to this person. I intend to beg shamelessly - but
politely of course.
Well, then, if we're going to throw caution to the wind, I guess I'll dive in and swim. If you can't do something smart...
I'm sending my letter out tomorrow. I hope it helps.
"...there's a whole universe of folk who are gonna know it too. They're gonna see it. Somebody has to speak for these people." -Mal
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Anything Joss himself posts means nothing.
It's funny, fun to read, and I want more.... but don't believe it. He's the sinical bast*rd we know and love. I love reading his posts about killing puppys and klingons that arn't aliens but are still klingons, how can you not?
As for the rumor, one thing that hasn't been addressed is the actual sighting of Nathon, Gina, and Summer leaving the CW building.... Did THIS actully happen?
"Someone Ever Tries to Kill You, You Try and Kill Em' Right Back"
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"The fanbase is still growing, and it seems whoever watches it for the first time becomes addicted for life."
That would be me. Never even heard of Firefly until I wandered into the video store a few days agp when I was sick and just happened to pick up Serenity. Never even heard about it or Firefly. After watching Serenity I went right back to the vid store and rented the TV series. To my utter disappointment there were only four disks. I watched all of them in two days. In fact, I have yet to return them. At any rate, I went from having no clue about Serenity or Firefly to seeing all episodes to posting on this website in three short days.
Truly a series that was dropped way before it's time. Now I can't get that fricking theme song out of my fricking head. I love that FF ballad though. I've been singing it in the shower and now my girlfriend even sings it and she hasn't even seen the move or any of the tv episodes.
Anyway, I now have the FF bug and am so fricking pissed that no-one has picked up this incredible series.
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Anyway, I now have the FF bug and am so fricking pissed that no-one has picked up this incredible series.
Oh yea. You'll fit in here just right. Don't forget to pick up your regulation issue brown coat.
David
"A lot of people are asking me, you know, what exactly is Firefly? It's a tv show you morons!" - Joss Whedon
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[B}1) In order to keep the show cost efficient, we would get rid of a few things we don't need, like spaceships, floors, and Jewel. (You thought I was gonna say 'costumes', didn't you? Porn guy.)
2) Nathan is busy making movies, but since I don't want new cast members, everybody in the cast would just move over one. Jewel (she's back!) would play Mal, Ron would play Kaylee, Morena would play Book, and so on.Quote:
WAIT!
What's this about Jewel being back?
Did she ever go anywhere?
i know she went to maui at the beginning of the year.
Is that what joss is talking about?
It get that it's humorous. I just don't quite know what's fact and what's fiction.
if only the man would devote his entire life to making more episodes of firefly, or a movie or something.
oh wait. He already did that?
So what was he saying about Jewel?
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WAIT!
What's this about Jewel being back?
Did she ever go anywhere?
In the first point that you quoted Joss said Jewel had to go for budgetary reasons. In the second point he brought her back.
David
"A lot of people are asking me, you know, what exactly is Firefly? It's a tv show you morons!" - Joss Whedon
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i love this 'verse in such a way i cant describe it, i never thought i would belong to the cult of sci fi tv and letter writing campaigns but its not evena choice for me now.
i dont really know if it will ever exist on tv anymore, my main hope is for some bid damned sequals or prequals, but anything that shows a flurry of activity from the browncoats can only be a good thing, whether it happens or not at least we can show that we have the numbers, that there IS an audience for this
"Dear diary: Today I was pompous and my sister was crazy. Today we were kidnapped by hill folk, never to be seen again. It was the best day ever."
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Anything Joss himself posts means nothing.
It's funny, fun to read, and I want more.... but don't believe it. He's the sinical bast*rd we know and love. I love reading his posts about killing puppys and klingons that arn't aliens but are still klingons, how can you not?
As for the rumor, one thing that hasn't been addressed is the actual sighting of Nathon, Gina, and Summer leaving the CW building.... Did THIS actully happen?
"Someone Ever Tries to Kill You, You Try and Kill Em' Right Back"
My point exactly...notice Joss didn't address this point (the first news item) at all. Similar "sightings" were overlooked or debunked leading up to the BDM. I am not believing this rumor (and that's what it still is) blindly, but I am also not falling for Joss's wordgames again.
The Bottom Line is that Kristen at E-Online would have little to gain from posting an unsubstantiated "sighting" about a defunct tv show's possible revival. Hell did she even know about Firefly before her post?
Time will tell if Joss is being Joss.
We will hold...we hold till Mal gets back...wait what's that on the horizon?
"And once you're gone, you can never come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black"
-Neil Young
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someone on the firefly lj community was saying that kirsten is a firefly fan herself. also that shes often got facts wrong in the past so im not sure how reliable her source was. this isnt to dicredit her as a writer, its just that in dealing with the world of celebrity gossip, a journalist is bound to get mis fed information or report things that arent true.
however, this hasnt been confirmed or denied to me so im still holding with my un-phased optimistim and im planning on being as loud and as visible about being a browncoat the best i can.
and its not just about being a hardcore browncoat, the newtowrks and studios need to know that regular people love this too. its ok hearing from the fanatics, but they need to know this has appeal and is ultimately sellable to all the good folks at home.
so letter writing and dvd buying for friends it is!
"Dear diary: Today I was pompous and my sister was crazy. Today we were kidnapped by hill folk, never to be seen again. It was the best day ever."
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As for the rumor, one thing that hasn't been addressed is the actual sighting of Nathon, Gina, and Summer leaving the CW building.... Did THIS actully happen?
The funny thing is we can't find an address, website, email, nothing for CW. You really think they have a building already? What for? To hold the plants they plan to water someday when they move in and start working?
Now if they said "The UPN buildings" or something like that it might make sense. But as of right now I don't think there even is a CW building for them to have been leaving.
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Joss is so mean. Funny...but mean. What a tease!
But I still have hopes.
The 'Verse lives on.
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Originally posted by Zeek:
The funny thing is we can't find an address, website, email, nothing for CW.
One more time, this is the mailing address that
appeared on this website for contacting programming
dept, as originally (at least the first time I saw)
posted by Barclay -
Dawn Ostraff
UPN
11800 Wilshire Blvd
Los Angeles, California 90025
If you check superpages.com for UPN, that's their
business address. Handwritten snail mail is the
most effective means of communication. Find a
pencil and a piece of paper, buy a stamp. Today
would be good.
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Just dropping in on this thread to hand NoName his browncoat...
it's regulation, ( well as regulation as a group of Independents can get ) and I hope it fits, my boxes are getting empty. I've ordered more as we've been going thru them like wildfire! And I like that!
Welcome to the "wonderfullness and painfullness" of the 'verse. That is what my daughter calls it.
We are really glad to have you!
Dont' forget to share this wonderful show and movie with everyone you care to. We need more recruits!
Hopefully, Kaele or Chindi will be along to feed you and make you feel at home.
" You hold. Hold til I get back." Mal
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OldFogey,
I'm mailing mine today. It might not hurt to send snail mail to SciFi either.
Here is their address:
The SciFi Channel
1230 Avenue of the Americas
New York, NY 10020
I am going to make mine Attn: Programming Director
as they don't seem to have a name you can direct letters to. If anyone discovers a name let us know.
I think I'm going to mail a letter more than once too. Wait a couple of weeks and do it again... I'm going to be careful not to sound too fan-like. Just like a regular person. ( Yea I know, it isn't easy, lol). I want them to know that there are lots of different kinds of folks out there who like Firefly.
" You hold. Hold til I get back." Mal
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Originally posted by oldfogey:Quote:
Originally posted by Zeek:
The funny thing is we can't find an address, website, email, nothing for CW.
One more time, this is the mailing address that
appeared on this website for contacting programming
dept, as originally (at least the first time I saw)
posted by Barclay -
Dawn Ostraff
UPN
11800 Wilshire Blvd
Los Angeles, California 90025
My point is in the details. Notice that's a UPN address. I'm saying I don't think any specific building has been designated as CW yet. Maybe they will just used the old UPN building. Maybe they won't. Though it seems odd that we can't find an address that has CW in it yet a rumor places Nathan, Gina and Summer at this mystical CW building.
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No, it's my fault. I'm a Raiders fan.
*griiiiiins*
Well, I'm a Chiefs fan, so I'm quite willing to place the blame with you.
LOL
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Originally posted by Zeek:
My point is in the details. Notice that's a UPN address. I'm saying I don't think any specific building has been designated as CW yet. Maybe they will just used the old UPN building. Maybe they won't. Though it seems odd that we can't find an address that has CW in it yet a rumor places Nathan, Gina and Summer at this mystical CW building.
Good observation. If I send a letter to that UPN address, will it reach the right people? Anyone know?
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Saw a version of this rumor on AICN and rushed right over here to get the confirm/deny on it 'cuz I know y'all got your fingers on the pulse of this baby. Had my hopes up for half a minute. Disappointed, naturally but that's missing the big picture...
We're still here. We're still waiting. Let it die? Like hell. Even if we don't get our show back, even if the Big Damn Trilogy never gets made, SereniFly will keep going. Why? We've got fanfic, or comics. Grunts like us just too damn stubborn to let this thing we love so well just go.
"Love. You can know all the math in the 'Verse, but take a boat in the air you don't love, she'll shake you off just as sure as the turning of worlds. Love keeps her in the air when she oughta fall down, tells ya she's hurtin' 'fore she keens. Makes her home."
Don't know about the rest of of you, but there's no place I can be...
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"We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty."
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No, there haven't been any overtures from the CW as regards a SereniFly spin-off. I haven't even heard the orchestra tuning up. But if they happen to come calling, I do know what I would do:
1) In order to keep the show cost efficient, we would get rid of a few things we don't need, like spaceships, floors, and Jewel. (You thought I was gonna say 'costumes', didn't you? Porn guy.)
2) Nathan is busy making movies, but since I don't want new cast members, everybody in the cast would just move over one. Jewel (she's back!) would play Mal, Ron would play Kaylee, Morena would play Book, and so on.
3) People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy.
4) The actors can make up their dialogue. I'm bushed, and they're all funny, and the hell with it. Maybe I'll give them a premise to work off of, like "You're all in trouble" or "Wash has a thing". They could maybe light it too.
5) Klingons, but not alien Klingons. But still Klingons.
So already the show is running like a well oiled companion. I'm just proud to be a part of the Country Western network, and I know this will be their biggest hit since "Have Space-Gun, Will Travel."
I hope, as always, this clears things up. And I hope the executives at the Carnie Wilson network DO give me a call. I've got a million ideas for redoing their offices.
Power to the people who are powerful enough to crush the other people! -jossy.
Hey guys, just bought and finished the Firefly series and Serenity yesterday. Another "3 dayer". Anyways, I, like many of you wanted to know if they plan on bringing back the show, got excited then kicked in the taint after reading the post.
Then I sat back and reread it. If you look at his above phrasing, he just about out and tells you the show will come back. I am the pretty pessamistic but this looked good to me.
Also the you guys have the Kristen whoever she is from E!'s quote wrong. This is from her site, read it closely.
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From junglejen9: Firefly. You gotta spill it if you have any additional info, please!
I've heard the CW is considering bringing it back as a series, miniseries or movie for next season. Hurrah! For you who missed my message board posting, on Tuesday, Nate Fillion, Summer Glau and Gina Torres were seen coming out of one of the exec buildings at Paramount, where they are putting together the new CW unit.
If you picked it up it says they were coming out of a exec building ON Paramount, not a CW building. Thats just where they will be housed.
Keep the faith guys, be proud you got the movie made by sheer will and love of the show.
I hope I hear more good news in the future.
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Originally posted by FollowMal:
... might not hurt to send snail mail to SciFi either.
Here is their address:
The SciFi Channel
1230 Avenue of the Americas
New York, NY 10020
I am going to make mine Attn: Programming Director
Will do today.
Will try to sound like normal folks not insane fanatic.
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Originally posted by SadLittleKing:
If I send a letter to that UPN address, will it reach the right people? Anyone know?
Not sure, but I wrote to them anyway.
Made me feel better.
Faith.
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Disappointed, naturally but that's missing the big picture...
We're still here. We're still waiting. Let it die? Like hell. Even if we don't get our show back, even if the Big Damn Trilogy never gets made, SereniFly will keep going. Why? We've got fanfic, or comics. Grunts like us just too damn stubborn to let this thing we love so well just go.
"Love. You can know all the math in the 'Verse, but take a boat in the air you don't love, she'll shake you off just as sure as the turning of worlds. Love keeps her in the air when she oughta fall down, tells ya she's hurtin' 'fore she keens. Makes her home."
Don't know about the rest of of you, but there's no place I can be...
You just made my day! I DO believe we'll get a sequel or something, but you reminded me that we have each other. Thank you.
" You hold. Hold til I get back." Mal
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Oh wow, we've got new recruits just popping out of the woodwork these days, got a keep a close eye out lately. ;p
Welcome to our little Haven here Onizuka. You wanna make an official post of your recent entry here, I'm sure all sorts of folks'll drop by and issue your browncoat, cook you some food, and let you know we're wierd ;p
I like your outlook, and with all these other posts, good to have someone point that out about Kristen's quote; what with the sighting being at a Paramount building and all. Still not sure if she's pulling it out of her
or not, but I'll figure the glass is half full for the time being.
Anyways, always shiny to see a new face out here in the black. Don't be a stranger, now, ya hear? :P
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You can take my hope when you pry it from my cold, dead fingers.
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Hey guys, just bought and finished the Firefly series and Serenity yesterday. Another "3 dayer".
Wow, we now have a term coined! A "3 dayer". I like that!!
Welcome to the 'verse Onizuka! We're very glad to have you.
*hands Onizuka a browncoat*
And you are right, it does say Paramount and Joss' post does shoot down any word from CW right now, but it doesn't say anything ( despite it's jokiness) about not doing the series or a movie or something.
We'll hold and wait.
" You hold. Hold til I get back." Mal
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Anything for my crew... just trying to put the situation in perspective.
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"We've done the impossible, and that makes us mighty."
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Well, this is my first post, as well!
Sign me up as a new Browncoat!
The funny thing is that I had been a raving Buffy/Angel/Joss fan for years. I missed the few first episodes of Firefly when it aired, and caught about half of one ("Out of Gas") later on. That is not the best episode for an intro, so I never really gave it too much more thought.
Then, a few weeks ago, my brother was raving to me about how fantastic the series is, so I gave it a try, bought the DVD set, and have nearly finished all the episodes now.
Utterly brilliant, and I can't imagine how I lived without this show before! I have a few more episodes to finish, and the Serenity film to watch (I already have the DVD). A truly amazing vision!
As for its future, well, Joss is being Joss! His stereotypical humorous approach is actually a good sign, and he's gone on record as saying (quote), "I'm never not going to be interested" in making more films, a new series, etc. It's a question of being asked to do it by the right people, network, etc. Clearly, he didn't say everything he wanted to say about this universe.
My guess is that there will at least be more TV movies, miniseries, etc., on CW, Sci-Fi, whatever, at some point.
What really annoys me is that, if Fox hadn't cancelled it, we'd be in the fourth season by now, well past 75 episodes. (sobs)
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Hey, a signed up Browncoat needs a ... browncoat!
*hands Sazman a browncoat*
We're glad to have you!
" You hold. Hold til I get back." Mal
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Originally posted by FollowMal:
Welcome to the 'verse Onizuka! We're very glad to have you.
*hands Onizuka a browncoat*
And you are right, it does say Paramount and Joss' post does shoot down any word from CW right now, but it doesn't say anything ( despite it's jokiness) about not doing the series or a movie or something.
We'll hold and wait.
Thanks for the warm welcome. I'll be holding and waiting. Time to watch the series again...
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3 dayers, I love it! Good job Onizuka and Noname!
And yay more for everyone's positivity! This CW rumor thing was so negative at first. Bring on the rumors, even the false ones! It's so amusing and doesn't scare me a bit - one of the rumors will be right one of these days.
peace -
m4p
Ask Dr. Science ... he knows more than you do.
"I have a Master's degree ... in science!"
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I missed the few first episodes of Firefly when it aired, and caught about half of one ("Out of Gas") later on. That is not the best episode for an intro, so I never really gave it too much more thought.
I had a similar experience. I caught part of "Our Mrs Reynolds" when it originally aired. It didn't grab me then so that was all I saw. I didn't become a fan until I saw a few complete episodes when it started airing on Scifi channel.
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I was similar in the sense that I was a huge Buffy/Angel fan, but for some reason never watched Firefly. Dunno, maybe the whole spaceship thing was offputting. I also didn't watch Fox a whole lot in those days, though.
As for this whole letter writing thing, I'll get mine out as soon as I can; I'm all excited now.
HONKS
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