Tidal

POSTED BY: Tzegha
UPDATED: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 02:06
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TZEGHA

Sunday, September 21, 2003 1:54 AM

can now be found at Fanfiction.net only

TZEGHA

Sunday, September 21, 2003 1:55 AM

http://www.fanfiction.net/read.php?storyid=1527678

BAMADAVE

Sunday, September 21, 2003 5:11 AM

There is an option if you are set on having all your chapters together. Finish them all and THEN post them. Do you not see how inconsiderate that is to every other person that posts to the blue sun room? If everyone went about things the way you do we could have 100 empty documents at the top of the list because people are eventually going to get around to writing them.

You shouldn't be asking Haken for a new feature after you have already made a mess of the board. You should have asked before you did. Now you should be asking Haken if he could go in and remove all your blank entries.

A 'sorry' and a frowny face really don't make up for it either. You should aplogize to all the writers of completed pieces you bumped off of the front page.

Dave

TZEGHA

Sunday, September 21, 2003 5:15 AM

Actually, I Have asked Haken for these features months ago.

Thank you.

TZEGHA

Sunday, September 21, 2003 2:49 PM

Problem is fixed.

FIREFLYPASSENGER

Sunday, September 21, 2003 5:16 PM

Bamadave,

You are so rude!

You could have made your point without the rudeness.

Think about that next time you want to correct someone. Rudeness is NOT necessary.

Of course you have probably already made a habit of it and are unable to change. So sad really.

This post is more for me than you because I am certain you will just scoff and not even understand it.

HAKEN

Sunday, September 21, 2003 8:12 PM

In all fairness, Tzegha isn't to blame. There are a lot of functions that either don't exist or do not work properly on this site. This site has always been a work in progress because everything is custom built.

Tzegha did the best she could, but without everything on this site working the way they should, it was really beyond her ability to make things right should they go awry. This was one of those instances.

And, as Tzegha said, she did make certain requests in the past for improvements to The Blue Sun room, but like a lot of requests that are made, I was not able to fulfill them due to time constraints.

I wish everything on the site would work the way they should for everyone, but they don't, and it's the best I have to offer right now with the resources I have. So when stuff like this happens, I hope everyone will be a bit more understanding.

All good?

ARCHER

Monday, September 22, 2003 2:01 AM

All good, but if I may point out... the easiest way to get a sequential reading of a writer's stories is simply to click their name and access their personal section on the site, which also gives a listing of their stories in chronological order.

We don't know who put this cup of life into our hands. But when we go our bones will bake upon the burning sands. 'Cause we walk but once among the living, so no regrets and no forgiving- it's hard to dance when you're down upon your knees. And these are dark days indeed.

SUCCATASH

Monday, September 22, 2003 7:15 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by FireflyPassenger:
Bamadave,

You are so rude!

You could have made your point without the rudeness.

Think about that next time you want to correct someone. Rudeness is NOT necessary.

Of course you have probably already made a habit of it and are unable to change. So sad really.

This post is more for me than you because I am certain you will just scoff and not even understand it.

I agree, the IRC #Firefly group is ruining everything. Their rudeness is just so sad to see. When will the reign of terror end?

The IRC #Firefly group needs to chill out and stop harrassing the Browncoats who post here at FFF. This site is for everyone. If you folks want to be mean why not stay in the hole that you dug for yourselves.

STEVEP99999

Monday, September 22, 2003 10:30 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by bamadave:
There is an option if you are set on having all your chapters together. Finish them all and THEN post them. Do you not see how inconsiderate that is to every other person that posts to the blue sun room? If everyone went about things the way you do we could have 100 empty documents at the top of the list because people are eventually going to get around to writing them.

You shouldn't be asking Haken for a new feature after you have already made a mess of the board. You should have asked before you did. Now you should be asking Haken if he could go in and remove all your blank entries.

A 'sorry' and a frowny face really don't make up for it either. You should aplogize to all the writers of completed pieces you bumped off of the front page.

Dave

This ends now! and you really should be apologizing to Tzengha for your uncalled rudeness thank you very much.

The names have been changed to protect the GUILTY because a freind asked me to ,you know who you are.

This is the straw that broke the camels back.

I don't know what emotional problems you trolls have
but it pisses me off that such rude hostile people
have the gall to consider anything or anyone
inconsiderate with the way you act.

The type of behavior that Tzengha exhibited wasn't a purposeful act unlike the rude response given to her by the live in troll.

Theres nothing like 5 trolls out looking for victims ,trust them like you would trust a
rattlesnake in your bed ,sooner or later your gonna
end up looking like the bad guy like Succatash.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=2355

Thats complete BS ,I was gonna let this drop but as
ive said before im not too keen on the 3F trolls
abusive natures especially against my freinds.

She's lucky that ruttin chat was fubaring my copy/pasting
,she was extremely arrogant ,condesending ,rude and
full of it to say the least.

TROLL Run's house. Most of the posting you saw were
lines out of a song by Run DMC.
[21:47]TROLL It's kinda a browncoat thing at
FFfans.net
[21:48]GUEST LOL! Run DMC spam ...whatever floats your
boat :)
[21:48]TROLL Have you read any of her firefly fans
fan fics?
[21:48]GUEST Ahhh the OB people are extremely posty
,its how they all are.
[21:49]TROLL It's a long story about the Run DMC,
we've all been talking for a year now. It's like a
close circle of friends you have, then a bunch of new
people you dont know come in and start talking in the
middle of your converstaion.
[21:49]TROLL Have you read any of her firefly fans fan
fics? ...Im not sure ,ive read so many and that was
when I was stupid and was getting major headaches from
reading the board
[21:50]TROLL I know about the posty, but that's
sooooo not us. We only post when we've got something
important to say and we HATE bumps
[21:50]TROLL She's written some general fics about
firefly, then some really kick ass fics about firefly
fans. It's great, you should read them, might give you
some insight.
[21:51]GUEST I geusse we are 2 different breeds of
people ,we welcome new people with open arms and
invite them into ALL our conversations ie we are
freindly
[21:52]TROLL Dont make us sound so bad. We invite,
we do. But it was too much, too many, and a few
rude.
[21:52]GUEST We only post when we've got
something important to say....Now come on ive read
quite a few threads here ,some of your people are just
like us
[21:52]TROLL Bumps?
[21:53]GUEST She's written some general fics about
firefly, then some really kick ass fics about firefly
fans. It's great, you should read them, might give you
some insight........I probably have read her normal
fanfics if they weren't Gay ? ,ive read no Fics about
fans though
[21:53]TROLL I'm just telling you how I see it. Go
on and post as you want. Dont expect open arms if
you're going to keep doing as you have.
[21:54]TROLL
"If they wern't gay" What?
[21:55]GUEST We invite, we do. But it was too much,
too many, and a few rude....well im not sure your
ideas of rude correspond

CALHOUN

Monday, September 22, 2003 11:43 AM

erm.. whatchoo talkin bout Willis!(SteveP99999)

CALHOUN

Monday, September 22, 2003 11:46 AM

If I cut and pasted say... "the bible" here do you think anyone would read all the way to the bottom or would everyone just scroll down?

KAYTHRYN

Monday, September 22, 2003 4:01 PM

...I'm still trying to figure out if this is a joke or not. Oh well.

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It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
Aristotle

MANIACNUMBERONE

Monday, September 22, 2003 9:39 PM

I'm not sure what to make of that my own self.
I'm a might bit confused.
What else is new?

KAYTHRYN

Monday, September 22, 2003 10:18 PM

This is just too funny. I seriously thought you were joking for awhile today, Steve.

I don’t mind saying that that was my conversation with you. Whoever your friend was, thanks for having Steve remove names later today, it was a nice thought. But, yes, I played the part of “TROLL”. Hehehe. I didn’t know you would be saving that old talk we had for the future to make a case against regulars on this board who you are calling trolls. If I knew it was going to be posted for everyone else to see I would thought a bit more before I typed, not simply typed in a quick conversation style as I was. If you remember, I didn’t want trouble started on the main board, and since you couldn’t get in to chat, we choose to speak in the bigger firefly tag log thingy, off of the main pages, in a place where I had hoped everyone else wouldn’t have to be dragged into it.

The first time I saw that you posted our old conversation, I thought you had simply copy and pasted the entire thing onto the page for everyone to read, (which I still thought was a bit rude without asking permission, but more understandable) but later when I went back to read your whole message I realized you omitted things from the beginning, middle, and end of our talk. You didn’t post the part where we were civil and said hi, or where you had asked me to tell you why I thought people were upset with you, or where I mentioned that these were all my personal opinions, perhaps not what everyone thought. You removed the parts where I spoke about the chat room, and I said hi to a few people for you. You left out parts where I apologized for being blunt because I was upset. You didn’t post the end of our conversation where you said thanks to me for giving you the heads up and where we fairly nicely said goodbye about six times. You also wrote me in as “TROLL” next to things I didn’t say, you did. Not that I wanted that posted here in the first place though, I thought that to be a personal conversation between just the two of us. Silly me, I even thought I was helping you out when you asked me. Telling you why people were upset when you asked in hopes that it would help you get along with everyone better.

Even though now when I look back at it, perhaps I would of worded things differently, I still stand by what I said-- if you cant stand this board or it‘s posters, leave, go to another board if you want, no one is holding you here.

Everyone was a little weird and panicky those first few days after the fox board went down. OB’s lost their board, and many of the Fffans felt like there was a flood of new members on their board. It seems like a few people are still holding to their hard feelings from the first few days since the board went down, but other than those few, it looks as though the OB’s and FFFans have mushed together quite nicely.

Quote:
Posted by Stevep99999:
She's lucky that ruttin chat was fubaring my copy/pasting
,she was extremely arrogant ,condesending ,rude and
full of it to say the least.

Even though I didn’t think we were friends, I thought we parted on friendly terms, again, silly me. I hold no hard feeling for you Steve, if I knew where you were in Ohio I would kiss you open mouthed. I might just have to find you for that. *wink, wink* And whoever that was who called me a bitch, foxy something, I’ll kiss you too.

Oh, by the way, what did our conversation about the tag log and someone calling me a bitch have to do with Tzegha posting fan fics and Tash not liking the people in a chat room that isn't even this boards chat room? I’m pretty confused too, Maniac.

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It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
Aristotle

NORTHERNREDFOX42

Tuesday, September 23, 2003 11:39 AM

I'm not exactly sure what happened with Tzegha, only that she felt hurt enough by what was said that she felt the need to pull all of her stories from this site and post them elsewhere.

As is our custom, she came to the Loon to share her feelings and get some support. I don't know if you have ever spent any time in the Loon, but it is a place where all are made welcome, even those you may be arguing with in another thread. She did not go into details, but just told us she had removed her stories.

Steve spoke with her privately and felt the need to defend her somewhat, apparently he felt he had also taken some flack here. He emailed me your conversation and while I may have overstated the case by calling you a bitch, for which I apologize, you must admit that you weren't very nice.

I think he used your conversation as just another example of the poor reception some people feel they have gotten here.

I'm not saying our forum is perfect and that we all always get along. There have been fights, nasty ones. And I'm usually one of the people in the middle trying to patch things up. But, for the most part, we treat each other with respect. Afterall, we are all Browncoats, we all fell in love with the same show. We have, at least, this one thing in common.

I have made life-long friends in the forum, they have already seen me through some tough times, and I like to think I've helped them too. Isn't that much more important than proper spelling and punctuation?

I'd like this to end here, and hope in the future we could all get along, but that is probably a pipe dream.

Just the same, take care, keep flying,

Karen (northernredfox42) aka foxy, red, and in the forum, simply redfox42.

KAYTHRYN

Tuesday, September 23, 2003 2:15 PM

I do agree that by the time I had this conversation with Steve I was not very nice. Steve and I had spoken before, short messages on the tag log and such, so by the time this conversation came up, I felt like I was beating my head against a wall, repeating the same answers to questions he had asked over and over before.

I also want to point out something Mag mentioned the day before, we’ve always had disputes on this board. Heated political threads, long ass threads that shall not be named, and so on, but from what I remember it was not such a personal thing. Of course you may remember the name of the person you disagreed with and argued with for weeks, but in other threads, you were still nice to each other and didn’t insult them outright for something that went on in a completely different discussion. Lately that’s changed and instead of letting go of those bad feelings from the first few threads and being civil to each other in new posts, we are holding on to a pointless resentment from I don’t know, a week ago? And dragging it into every new thread that pops up. I’m not blaming it on the members of the official forum who came over here, but I do think they noticed it as perhaps being different from their board and took it personally while some of the regulars here were more apt to let it go. Then everything snowballed from there and everyone went on the defensive standing up for their friends and their board. But I think it’s quieting down now, probably because everyone is just too tired of it.

And lastly, as I beat my head again against the dent in my wall, the spelling and punctuation was never that big of a deal. Some people have just taken that complaint and run with it, I think it’s when other people can hardly understand a word that you’re typing that it becomes really annoying.

Oh, another "lastly"-- I don’t see why we cant be friends, though. I still think I’d probably kiss you if I met you.

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It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
Aristotle

MANIACNUMBERONE

Tuesday, September 23, 2003 5:26 PM

That's why yer so dang cool Kayt. You'll make up with people who annoy you and even think they deserve a smooch! What a great gal! We need more like you.
And as a side note, since you and Steve posted in the area where I usually jabber on with sweet Koffee, I saw everything that you wrote. I was in fact lurking at the time, watching you both type.... sorry. (Thought you needed some alone time.) Anyway, I did notice an absence of completeness to the reposting, just as you said. I would have liked everyone to see that you and Steve left talking on a "tolerable" footing.
I also want to say regarding the spelling issue, that I purposely spell incorrectly when I am typing here, because it's fun. I have a degree in technical writing, but danged if'n I'm gonna spell like a computer when I'm tryin' to get across my colloquialisms.

HIPPYDOG

Tuesday, September 23, 2003 6:33 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by ManiacNumberOne:
Anyway, I did notice an absence of completeness to the reposting, just as you said.

I dont believe steve intentionally left parts out.
I think he just copyed what he could.

Quote:
Posted by Stevep99999:
She's lucky that ruttin chat was fubaring my copy/pasting

Just my 2 Cents.

MAGUINAN

Tuesday, September 23, 2003 6:44 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by hippydog:

I dont believe steve intentionally left parts out.
I think he just copyed what he could.

Quote:
Posted by Stevep99999:
She's lucky that ruttin chat was fubaring my copy/pasting

Just my 2 Cents.

Except that it seems she wasn't lucky, as it sounds like the parts that got left out (or fubared) were the parts that showed how cool and thoughtful Kayt is.

NORTHERNREDFOX42

Tuesday, September 23, 2003 9:41 PM

I have just been informed by Nono that, while you, Kayt, are not attending AC, several of your friends are. I was kind of hoping you would be too. I think if we could all meet in person and just talk things would go a whole lot smoother.

Facial expressions and tone of voice are very difficult to express in print no matter how many emoticons you use. In fact, misreading of intent is often the root of many of the misunderstandings that have occurred on our board.

I see no reason why people from both boards can't get along. And even travel back and forth some if they wish. Perhaps meeting in AC will help with this somewhat.

Looking forward to meeting people from here, and I hope the people here feel the same way.

Karen

MANIACNUMBERONE

Tuesday, September 23, 2003 9:41 PM

I don't think Steve did anything intentionally malicious either. Steve's a great guy. Kayt's a great gal. I'm just sayin' completeness is nice.

KAYTHRYN

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 2:06 AM

I love my maguinan. Did you all see where she called me “cool“? Xie xie, Mag. You rock more than you know.

Ah, AC shindig, I wish I could go. That’s coming up in just a few days isn’t it? Arg. I want pictures, people! Lots and lots of pretty pictures! Audio and video would be nice too. Hopefully an Ohio Shindig will work it’s way out and I’ll be able to met some of you then. Black, you and me, man. ;)

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It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
Aristotle