Firefly and Marijuana

POSTED BY: Succatash
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SUCCATASH

Tuesday, September 23, 2003 3:59 AM

You know, I'm surprised this subject hasn't come up before. I've noticed there is a distinct lack of pot smokers on this board. I'm really surprised, because I'm sure most pot smokers would really like Firefly. Kaylee has the hippie love and so does River. Hell, they all do.

I think all Browncoats should do whatever possible to help tap into this wide open market.

If you know someone who is abusing marijuana, be sure to mention Firefly.

Not because Firefly is "fun to watch high" but because pot smokers tend to think of themselves as Independents.

Joss Whedon Interview:
What story will you never tell on Buffy, Angel, or Firefly?
"Wow, smoking pot is wrong, I see that now!"

Question #71
http://www.buffy.nu/article.php3?id_article=366

NOOCYTE

Tuesday, September 23, 2003 5:02 AM

Yah, but, ya know, Firefly IS great fun to watch high, because.........what was I talking about?

Ooo, pie!

Department of Redundancy Department

CAPTBAGGYTROUSERS

Tuesday, September 23, 2003 6:22 AM

I was given the gift of Firefly by the biggest dope fiend I know. Long may he smoke.

In terms of drug use on the show, I have always really appreciated the fact that in "Safe" Jayne is sure to steal pills from Simon's room. I always imagined he was just gonna try 'em, see what they did.

History repeats the old conceits

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DRAKON

Tuesday, September 23, 2003 10:16 AM

Oh come on! At the end of "Out of Gas", when Jayne complains about the "funny smell" in Inara's shuttle? You thought that was incense????

"Wash, where's my damn space ship?"

SERGEANTX

Tuesday, September 23, 2003 1:28 PM

And I thought Inara's eyes were red cause she was worried about Mal, Tsk Tsk...

SergeantX

"..and here's to all the dreamers, may our open hearts find rest." -- Nanci Griffith

DRAKON

Tuesday, September 23, 2003 2:13 PM

Its always bugged me that scene in "Serenity" where they get buzzed by the Reavers, Inara has a handy syringe all ready to go. It has been assumed that it was meant to kill her, rather than be taken by Reavers. Supposed that is mistaken?

"Wash, where is my damn spaceship?"

KAYTHRYN

Tuesday, September 23, 2003 2:18 PM

In the Train Job, what was it that the sheriff was smoking?

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MANIACNUMBERONE

Tuesday, September 23, 2003 5:17 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Noocyte:
Yah, but, ya know, Firefly IS great fun to watch high, because.........what was I talking about?

Ooo, pie!

Department of Redundancy Department

I had never considered smoking pot until y'all just suggested it, but I'm gonna try it now! I am glad to find a support group for my soon-to-be addiction. I'll let y'all know if it's any fun.

SUENOS

Tuesday, September 23, 2003 7:41 PM

Quote:
I had never considered smoking pot until y'all just suggested it, but I'm gonna try it now! I am glad to find a support group for my soon-to-be addiction. I'll let y'all know if it's any fun.

Never let it be said that this is not a full service site. I just posted a recipe that will be great when you get the munchies! Of course, I've heard people get the munchies....personally I have no firsthand knowledge of this.
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Keep Flying!

VETERAN

Tuesday, September 23, 2003 10:18 PM

Was home with a broken wrist when Firefly premeired last year. Not that it needs it, but the show goes pretty well with a couple Percocet.

VEGWEDGE

Tuesday, September 23, 2003 10:19 PM

Oh, hey, yeah, well let me tell you that munchies are the best until you've eaten so much you feel like you're gonna burst, but you still want to eat. That's when enough is enough and it's time for more bong hits. mmmm donut...mmmm weed

vegwedge

Trying is the first step towards failure.

Homer Simpson - paraphrased

CB

Tuesday, September 23, 2003 10:29 PM

Hmmm... read this thread last night, didn't much consider it, till I was asleep... bear with me... I dreamt that I was on a ship, and the crew had just discovered an amazing plant that you can smoke, and feel really really good from, *cough*cannabis!*cough*, but then after a while, you develop an insane appetite, and there just happened to be another ship passing by, so they boarded them and ate them. Thus, the origin of the Reavers.

Ok... I know that's pretty twisted, but in dreams, it doesn't have to make sense to be funny... kinda the same when you're high...

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DRAKON

Wednesday, September 24, 2003 8:43 AM

Yeah that is pretty twisted. I have never heard of weed turning a person cannibal. (there is a story out about a guy who fried his own toes and at them after sniffing butane.)

I would expect a weed induced crew to note the other ship and go "Wow. Look at the lights out there."

I can't believe what we have started here.

"Wash, where is my damn spaceship?"

VETERAN

Thursday, September 25, 2003 1:46 AM

It's a reach but maybe space cannibus gives you cannibalistic munchies.

KAYTHRYN

Thursday, September 25, 2003 1:57 AM

See kids? Cannibalistic space munchies, just another reason to say no to drugs.

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It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
Aristotle

SUCCATASH

Thursday, September 25, 2003 3:06 AM

Cannibal and Cannabis are very close in spelling, and I think that's because eating people can make you feel high. Or maybe it's smoking dead people, I can't remember. Does anyone speak Latin?

JOEMAN

Thursday, September 25, 2003 3:53 AM

No. It's the conjunctivitis.

Purveyor of Pulchritude

BLACKSTAR

Thursday, September 25, 2003 4:07 AM

No body *speaks* Latin per se, in any case...

Oh, my God! Who's flying this thing? Oh, right, that would be me...

ZARQUON

Thursday, September 25, 2003 9:21 AM

Knowing Latin's not gonna be much help. I actually heard a professor of cannibalism talking on the radio not long ago. Cannibal comes from the Spanish word Canibales. And now thanks to the magic of the Oxford Dictionary I know that Cannabis is from the Greek word Kannabis.

How nerdy am I?!

SERGEANTX

Thursday, September 25, 2003 12:22 PM

I speak Latin. I learned it in college. Not really fluent, but well enough to order in a restaurant or ask directions or something.

SergeantX

"..and here's to all the dreamers, may our open hearts find rest." -- Nanci Griffith

JOEMAN

Thursday, September 25, 2003 12:35 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SergeantX:
I speak Latin. I learned it in college. Not really fluent, but well enough to order in a restaurant or ask directions or something.

That's a big fat fib. Mendax maximus!

Purveyor of Pulchritude

HJERMSTED

Thursday, September 25, 2003 7:27 PM

Firefly and marijuana were once part of an eagerly aniticipated weekly ritual of mine and several friends.

No cannibalism involved. Justice League and Samurai Jack on cartoon network were the warm acts. Firefly and whatever flavor Ben & Jerry's was handy were the main feature.

Then, to get the adrenalin pumping at 9pm there was the ceremonial sprint to the TV to shut it off before John Doe would come on and kill the buzz.

I MISS THOSE DAYS!!!!

Ooops! Did I say too much? Guess I can't run for political office anymore.

I'm a menace to society!!!!

mattro

ILIKESTRAWBERRIES

Thursday, September 25, 2003 11:14 PM

Personally, I believe that if Kaylee can develop inter-engine fermentation, then certainly the crew of Serenity can find room in one of their many hidey-holes to grow a little grass. Then they can use it to bribe Alliance officials with.

And Firefly is a little like smoking the pot, it leaves me hungry for more. . .please Joss, make that movie quick!

Hey free soup!

POSTER NUTBAG

Monday, November 3, 2003 9:05 PM

Quote:
Hjermsted wrote:
Thursday, September 25, 2003 09:27
Firefly and marijuana were once part of an eagerly aniticipated weekly ritual of mine and several friends.

As one of Hjermy's ritualistically converted ME-Junkies, and co-conspirator in the weekly Firefly ritual, I too watched every single episode of Firefly (as well as every Buffy and Angel)

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The initial comment about potheads being browncoat material is on-the-money accurate; have a toke and a smile!

Ciao Kids!

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SUCCATASH

Thursday, August 3, 2006 9:58 PM

Bumping an old thread. Ah, the good old days (cough).

"Gott kann dich nicht vor mir beschuetzen, weil ich nicht boese bin."

DAYVE

Thursday, August 3, 2006 10:05 PM

ahh, sweet Esmarelda... i remember her well Zig-Zag

DEEPGIRL187

Thursday, August 3, 2006 10:06 PM

Me being the sick mind that I am, I always wondered which characters would be most likely to get stoned. My vote is Wash. Though I'm sure he would have to be cautious of Zoe (don't see her as the type to get stoned), you have to admit it would be funny as hell to see him trying to fly the ship completely blitzed.

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TEACHDAIRE

Thursday, August 3, 2006 10:11 PM

My opinion is that Jayne is a closet pothead.

My reasons,

i, He spends an inordinate amount of time "in his bunk"
ii, When he is asleep, not even an intruder can wake him up.
iii, He gives names and assigns personalities to inamimate objects.
iiii, He's almost always eating (big time munchies).

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MSG

Thursday, August 3, 2006 10:19 PM

LOL teachdaire:)
However...reminder there are many under 18's on this board...perhaps we could confine conversations about recreational pharmacuticals to somewhere else:)

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FIZZIX

Thursday, August 3, 2006 10:22 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Succatash:
You know, I'm surprised this subject hasn't come up before. I've noticed there is a distinct lack of pot smokers on this board. I'm really surprised, because I'm sure most pot smokers would really like Firefly. Kaylee has the hippie love and so does River. Hell, they all do.

I think all Browncoats should do whatever possible to help tap into this wide open market.

If you know someone who is abusing marijuana, be sure to mention Firefly.

Not because Firefly is "fun to watch high" but because pot smokers tend to think of themselves as Independents.

Joss Whedon Interview:
What story will you never tell on Buffy, Angel, or Firefly?
"Wow, smoking pot is wrong, I see that now!"

Question #71
http://www.buffy.nu/article.php3?id_article=366

Serenity Visual Companion: "And pot was totally legal (though I probably won't stress that). (In fact, forget I said it.)" Page 12, Pre Production memo, A breief history of the universe circa 2507 A.D.

Reasearch. Wootage, I was wondering if that would ever help me.

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SUCCATASH

Thursday, August 3, 2006 10:26 PM

I would have loved a scene with Book, Inara and Jayne smoking the hookah in Inara's shuttle.

I can picture Inara and Book philosophically discussing meditation and religion -- and then Jayne just bursts out laughing.

Or something like that.

"Gott kann dich nicht vor mir beschuetzen, weil ich nicht boese bin."

LITTLEALBATROSS29

Thursday, August 3, 2006 11:09 PM

I have a bowl named Esmerelda .It's ceramic with eyes ,nose & the bowl being his mouth.

I love this thread !

Bryce
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ARCADIA

Thursday, August 3, 2006 11:29 PM

Haha -- that would be hilarious. Especially if when he was done laughing he said something incredibly insightful/stoned.

Gotta love the 'verse, where my Mary Jane is nice and legal (the visual companion tells us so, hehe).

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NVGHOSTRIDER

Thursday, August 3, 2006 11:36 PM

Not that I don't respect you and your decisions, but get a clue. So alcohol and tobacco ruin lives. Thats just because it is sold over the counter to anybody with the proper (or at times inproper) credentials.
Working with kids I see the direct and indirect consequences of pot usage. Can you imagine seeing a kid three years after they start using. And thats all they use. Only to see them dumber that the first time you met them. Or friends that you grew up with having the same problem.
Please do one thing for me. Look outside yourself. I'm sure many on this forum will tell you the same thing. From the outside looking in most potheads only think of the world as it realtes to being high, smoking pot, or your next experience. Its kinda like dragging a person whose never left New York City to the wilderness of Nevada (I've done it). The insecurity of looking at the world without the hazy glasses can be a scary thing.
But who am I to talk. I sometimes watch FF/BDM while sobering up and eating whatever. Just limit yourself while having fun. Hate to find out that FF/BDM were just a novelty for the high times.

NVGHOSTRIDER

Friday, August 4, 2006 12:03 AM

Sorry 'bout the rant.

It could be worse.

Y'all could be E-tards.

CITIZEN

Friday, August 4, 2006 12:04 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by ManiacNumberOne:
I had never considered smoking pot until y'all just suggested it, but I'm gonna try it now! I am glad to find a support group for my soon-to-be addiction. I'll let y'all know if it's any fun.

Unfortunatly you can't get addicted to pot, but good luck trying.

EDIT:
Just saw the date of the original post, heh disregard

CITIZEN

Friday, August 4, 2006 12:31 AM

Hey nvghostrider:
I've seen and experienced the highs and lows of cannabis, and seriously Tobacco’s effects are far more dangerous to all, plus there's the whole fact that it is one of the most addictive substances known to man, while cannabis is non-addictive. Alcohol will cause harm to anyone who drinks to excess and is likewise addictive.

If you smoke twenty joints a day it's going to have an effect, if you drink twenty pints a day it's going to kill you and soon. Violence and borderline sociopathic behaviour go hand in hand with alcoholism; cannabis’s harms are far more introverted.

Sure Cannabis isn't as safe as proponents would like it known, but the worst thing cannabis will do is bring out an underlying mental condition that may never have surfaced.

What I mean to say is that you’re seeing absolutely the worst of cannabis and then looking at the big picture of other substances. Seriously Tobacco and Alcohol's reputation of 'being worse' than cannabis is well deserved and has nothing to do with them being more easily available.

That’s not to say that when people start in on the “cannabis is completely safe!” line it doesn’t piss me off. Be under no illusions cannabis really can ruin lives, and ‘cause’ serious mental illnesses in a minority of people, but to say it is worse or even as bad as Alcohol or Tobacco is just wrong.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

NOSADSEVEN

Friday, August 4, 2006 2:34 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by CB:
Hmmm... read this thread last night, didn't much consider it, till I was asleep... bear with me... I dreamt that I was on a ship, and the crew had just discovered an amazing plant that you can smoke, and feel really really good from, *cough*cannabis!*cough*, but then after a while, you develop an insane appetite, and there just happened to be another ship passing by, so they boarded them and ate them. Thus, the origin of the Reavers.

Eerily on target, I'd say.

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Ain't. We. Just.

MISSTRESSAHARA

Friday, August 4, 2006 7:28 AM

Well thanks to this post I just had an entire scene play out in my mind of Wash getting totally high. I started to type out what I imagined but realized it would be too long so I'll post it in a blog (my first.)

Actually it would make for a good fic, but though I can write I've had a problem with the FF lingo. Just want to get the idea down though before I forget it.

I can see all of them getting high, and Mal mellowing out for once in a long while.

If I'm a bitch, then life just got interesting

In regards to this post, I actually made it into a fic, don't know how it happened it just evolved. Part 2 is yet to be written.

CRUITHNE3753

Friday, August 4, 2006 10:02 AM

I don't need drugs, I get high on Firefly.

Yeah, and maybe the odd bottle of a good ale.

FILLYGIRL

Friday, August 4, 2006 11:07 AM

My two cents,...I started at 22 and have smoked for over 30 years.(God,am I THAT old?)I don't drink, don't smoke cigaretts, and don't drive stoned. I do not see any affect on me or my brain,....latest IQ test said 131, so I guess the brain is still holding. Like all 'party goods', use in moderation, and at home, I know not every one should smoke,....but for me its the greatest thing on the planet,....where are my Oreo's?? ...and milk, I need milk

...it's worst than you know...Operative
...it usually is.....Mal

NVGHOSTRIDER

Friday, August 4, 2006 12:25 PM

Thanks Citizen for the input.
I have to correct myself a little. To say THC is as dangerous as other legal drugs may be wrong. But only in certain populations.
Not tryin' to yank your chain 'cause you are miles ahead of me in the brainpan. Not to mention I think if given the chance you could argue even the pope outta the papacy.
I just wonder where you're coming from. Are you a minority? And from what minority groups?
Combine any number of people's minority groups.
They are the majority.
I had compiled a list of arguments and observations directly from experience, but most are wasted on paranoid and clouded ears.
One point I'd like to make. Studies, no matter where they come from, will always be wrong on this subject. There are so many variations of Marijuana that an accurate study will probably never be done. Pot is no longer natural. Its been bred and altered "naturally" so many times that there possibly no way to ever get it back in its natural state.
Just concerned for the well being of my fellow 'coats. Though it has been stated THC is non-addictive, see it from my shoes. As a human service worker for a "minority" group, as with many other workers from other groups, we are on the frontline of the new world. From what the children are telling us, We're headed down a bad road. Just think about your kids.
(Sorry, sounded like Mr. T for a sec.)
Love y'all.

HAIDAO

Friday, August 4, 2006 1:24 PM

Who on the ship would you want to smoke with?

FELLOWTRAVELER

Friday, August 4, 2006 2:10 PM

Here here Citizen.

Packing one in your honor.

Did someone mention pie?

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM, pie...............

DAYVE

Friday, August 4, 2006 2:28 PM

One of the funniest movie quotes I’ve heard was from Jackie Brown...

The Samuel L. Jackson character (Ordell) tells the Bridget Fonda character (Mel)
“Damn girl, it’s 8 0’clock in the morning and you already getting high…. All you do is smoke and watch TV. That shit’s gonna ruin your ambition..”

Mel replies:
“Not if your ambition is to get high and watch TV…”

FELLOWTRAVELER

Friday, August 4, 2006 2:39 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Dayve:
One of the funniest movie quotes I’ve heard was from Jackie Brown...

The Samuel L. Jackson character (Ordell) tells the Bridget Fonda character (Mel)
“Damn girl, it’s 8 0’clock in the morning and you already getting high…. All you do is smoke and watch TV. That shit’s gonna ruin your ambition..”

Mel replies:
“Not if your ambition is to get high and watch TV…”

Your right, man. It's too early for that. I'll have a screwdriver instead!

USMC

Friday, August 4, 2006 6:15 PM

I post rarely, but visit daily. This topic rocks!
Party on dudes and dudettes.

TRAVELER

Saturday, August 5, 2006 4:22 AM

An old friend visited me about a year ago. He wanted to borrow ten bucks from me. I knew what it was for so I said no. He started to cry. Like a baby.

I won't describe what he looked like or what his clothes were like. Just say he matched the gutter he was probably living in.

I've gone to more than one funeral involving drugs. Not pretty. They do a fair job of covering the exit wounds to the back of the head.

I've been there. I got out. God it was the hardest thing I ever did. I've seen more lost souls than I ever would want to count.

One was my father. He lost his work, his family and then his life. He was 58.

Ever visit a mental hospital? I have. Do you know why most people are there? I do.
Drugs. You don't beleave me. Go visit one. Talk to some doctors while your there.

I have on more than one occasion taken somebody to a hospital to be treated for this disease called addiction. These are things you learn to do in AA. Holding people so the know their alive.
Sitting up with somebody and just talking nonsense untill the urge is gone and the can finally go to sleep. You do it because they did it for you. I don't like losing friends to this shit. I'm tired of it. You learn what it is like to be locked up. You learn how to make coffee. You learn how to listen if it takes all night.
You learn to stay sober one day at a time.

Alcohol and pot take years. They are very patient. They aren't worried about time. Coke and crack are greedy they want your life right now. That's about the only difference. The end is the same.

USMC

Saturday, August 5, 2006 4:55 AM

lol, sorry to hear that.

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Saturday, August 5, 2006 5:10 AM

Citizen

To say it isn't additive is not true - it can be psychologically addictive, and to say it isn't harmful is also untrue. Smoking it for 20 years caused my brothers brain to stop making serotonin. As a result he is on antidepressant now and will be for the rest of his life.

Bottom line, anything you inhale into your lungs that isn't oxygen - is harmful.

But on a non-serious note - I am not sure we want to encourage pot smokers to embrace the verse. Got nothin against pot smokers, but imagine their distress when they day comes when they have to choose purchasing a nifty firefly bit o memorabilia - or a dime bag! What Horror!

We are The Forsaken - We aim to burn! and we don't need no stinkin levels!

one of the Forsaken TM

ROCKETJOCK

Saturday, August 5, 2006 6:36 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
Citizen

To say it isn't additive is not true - it can be psychologically addictive--

I am not sure we want to encourage pot smokers to embrace the verse. Got nothin against pot smokers, but imagine their distress when they day comes when they have to choose purchasing a nifty firefly bit o memorabilia - or a dime bag! What Horror!

Umm-does that mean Firefly is "Psychologically Addictive"? Indeed, the horror!

Brethren and Sistren, anything can be psychologically addictive, from gambling, to sex, to praying on Sunday morning. Taken in moderation, THC is no more harmful than relaxing with a cocktail--or less, as the effects of alcohol toxemia are well known in emergency rooms across the world, while the only known way to overdose on MJ is to have someone drop a bale on your head.

I'm honestly sorry to hear about your brother's problem, however. Still, I have a friend who developed serious medical problems from overindulgence in diet sodas. Just 'cause something's not 100% harmless doesn't mean it should be illegal.

"The illegality of cannabis is outrageous, an impediment to full utilization of a drug which helps produce the serenity and insight, sensitivity and fellowship so desperately needed in this increasingly mad and dangerous world.." -- Carl Sagan

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Saturday, August 5, 2006 7:18 AM

Um did I say it should be illegal?

We are The Forsaken - We aim to burn! and we don't need no stinkin levels!

one of the Forsaken TM

CITIZEN

Saturday, August 5, 2006 11:36 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by FutureMrsFillion:
To say it isn't additive is not true - it can be psychologically addictive,

I'm going to quible a bit on terms here. Psychological Addiction and Addiction are different, with a physical addiction your body chemistry changes so that your body can not operate normally without the substance in question. That's why nearly all physical addictions manifest in the same way:
Cravings (you're body always knows what it needs and will crave it),
Cold sweats,
Shakes,
Headaches and so on.

A pschological addiction is really more like a compulsion, you feel like you need X to get threw the day. This is also ussually a component of physical addiction, breaking the habit of smoking is a hurdle as well as breaking the addiction of Nicotine. Point is as was mentioned earlier not everything is adictive but pretty much everything is compulsive, from shopping to autograph hunting, A through to Z.

Quote:
and to say it isn't harmful is also untrue

I never said that, in fact I catagorically did not say that, I said it wasn't AS harmful as Nicotine and Alcohol.

Quote:
Bottom line, anything you inhale into your lungs that isn't oxygen - is harmful.

No inhaling anything is harmful. Oxygen is poisonious...

Quote:
But on a non-serious note - I am not sure we want to encourage pot smokers to embrace the verse. Got nothin against pot smokers, but imagine their distress when they day comes when they have to choose purchasing a nifty firefly bit o memorabilia - or a dime bag! What Horror!

Yeah but think of the money that could be made from selling "Kaylee's inter-engine Bong" to the masses.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

PDCHARLES

Saturday, August 5, 2006 11:41 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SergeantX:
And I thought Inara's eyes were red cause she was worried about Mal, Tsk Tsk...

SergeantX

"..and here's to all the dreamers, may our open hearts find rest." -- Nanci Griffith

Well, she must really be tokin' it up on this season's SG-1.

SERGEANTX

Saturday, August 5, 2006 2:23 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by haidao:
Who on the ship would you want to smoke with?

Kaylee!!!!

Ahhh... I feel stoned just thinking about it.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

DAELUS

Saturday, August 5, 2006 11:10 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by haidao:
Who on the ship would you want to smoke with?

Yep, it would have to be Kaylee. Or Wash. I imagine smoking with Jayne would be hilarious, though. I can just see him getting fits of the giggles which are, of course, quite contagious.

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TRAVELER

Sunday, August 6, 2006 12:37 AM

FutureMrsFillion:

Sorry to here about your brother. I also will be on meds the rest of my life. Between my fathers alcoholism and my own stupid efforts to experiment with drugs my brain is a road map of carnage. But they finally found the right mix of medications and I am functioning.

Well being addicted to Firefly may be adverse. But still it is a far better than my sorted past.

The one thing that I try to remember is that using drugs didn't only effect me. My family and friends were effected as well. You helped me remember this with your post. I'm sure your hurt by your brothers condition as well.

As far as pot being addictive or not does not really mean anything to me when I've seen the damage it has caused.

I hope the best for both your brother and yourself.

Traveler

LEIGHKOHL

Sunday, August 6, 2006 1:44 AM

I don't really smoke pot, but I've seen a plant or two in my time and I swear at the end of Shindig, when we see Kaylee's bunk, there is a hanging plant. I looked at it and said outloud, "Fern or pot?" My best friend believes it's a fern, but I have my doubts.

SERGEANTX

Sunday, August 6, 2006 1:53 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Leighkohl:
I don't really smoke pot, but I've seen a plant or two in my time and I swear at the end of Shindig, when we see Kaylee's bunk, there is a hanging plant. I looked at it and said outloud, "Fern or pot?" My best friend believes it's a fern, but I have my doubts.

I remember Jewel saying something at Dragon Con last year about Kaylee being a pothead. Ahh... Kaylee and me, passing the bong. Just makes me grin thinking about it.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

DONCOAT

Sunday, August 6, 2006 2:26 AM

To those who have had problems with drugs (themselves or loved ones), I'm truly sorry for your sufferings.

But experiences differ. Many millions of people smoked weed in the 60s and 70s with little negative effect.

In my own case, I got high at least several times a week for around 20 years. In some stretches I smoked nearly every day. When I stopped, I just stopped. No big deal. I don't think I've had a hit for around 15 years now, and never really missed it.

I can understand why you feel moved to warn of the dangers. Just be aware that it's not the road to perdition for everyone.

In a rational world marijuana would be as legal as alcohol, and as controlled. My feeling is that keeping it forbidden only adds to its allure to young folks -- yet they seem to be the most likely to suffer harm from its effects. Bad policy.

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I'm pointin' right at it!

MISBEHAVEN

Sunday, August 6, 2006 3:24 AM

Who on the ship would you want to smoke with?

Kaylee and Wash. They seem like a couple of tokers, and I bet they would be fun to hang out with. But once the munchies kicked in, I would go and find Jayne. He seems like he always has food to snack on.

Morbid and creepifying I got no problem with, so long as you do it quiet like.

MISBEHAVEN

Sunday, August 6, 2006 4:16 AM

Hey Traveler,

I'm not trying to minimize addiction, but it's important to remember that not everyone responds to drugs the same way. I first smoked pot when I was sixteen, and I continued to smoke it until I was about twenty-five. It didn't harm me, nor did it impede me from doing something with my life. I earned a Masters of Arts in English (while I was still toking regulary), and now I teach freshman composition courses at a university. I hadn't smoked pot for over nine years, until I was traveling through Amsterdam last Fall. Well, it was Amsterdam. My point is that drugs and addiction take on many different forms: alcohol, tobacco, marijuana, food, sex etc. Not everyone who drinks is a drunk. Not everyone who gets stoned is a pothead. Not everyone who eats is obese. The key to enjoying things that bring pleasure is moderation. After all, you can't protect people from themselves, and prohibition doesn't work.

Morbid and creepifying I got no problem with, so long as you do it quiet like.

TRAVELER

Sunday, August 6, 2006 6:01 AM

misbehaven:

You are right. I know people who have smoked in their youth and quit without being harmed. Most people can drink alcohol without ant ill effects.
But this fansite has people who are 10 and 12 years old. I don't think this type of thread is appropriate when people that age can see it.

I wanted to even the scales out.

Also I will admit I'm a bit touchy about the subject. I know so many people who are fighting addiction and losing. I have actually been pretty tame about in my posts. I have seen things I wouldn't tell a priest. It is imposible to explain to someone on the outside of addiction how ugly it is.

I'm one of the lucky ones. I have often asked why I survived while I see other so tormented by addiction.

I don't want people thinking I'm preaching. But it is hard not to when something has effected your life like alcohol and drugs have mine.

So if I have offended anybody please accept my apology. I just have seen some of the worst things imaginable and it was caused by drug use.

When I was in treatment there 18 year old kids in the hospital suffering from alcoholism and they weren't even legally old enough to drink.

I have done work in our county jail system and the inmates were so disfunctional you couldn't hold a decent meeting.

We have club houses that are not owned by AA but they give support to those trying to find sobriety. I was working behind the counter serving coffee and cheeseburgers to to people who come in to have a safe place to socialize.
There was this guy who sat there through my entire shift and drank coffee at the counter for eight hours. I'm used to that so it didn't surprize me. But when finally got up to leave he thanked me. I said, "anytime." He said, "no I was thinking of drinking and I rushed here and just held on to this counter affraid to let go."
I know that sounds silly but it is the little things that work the best. Some days you just have to hang on till the urge leaves you. You can be sober for twenty or thirty years and still have days like that. Just hanging on. I was sitting in a corner just white knuckling it at that very same club when someone spotted me and sat next to and smiled and told me, I have days like this to."

We have a bond that is hard to explain. We share a lot of experiences and that holds us together.

I've read through several threads at this site where they have discussed God and let me tell you I have seen his work through the acts of some the most wonderful on this earth since I sobered up.

So if you haven't gone through the shakes or panic attacks I can't explain to you what this means to me. I can just say it life and death.
I'm serious. I've seen some nasty shit. We have people who actually have stayed sober for years with severve brain damage you would think they should in an institution. But they manage. Can't hold a job. Some can't even read. Have to receive money from the government to pay the rent. But they stay sober. Sometimes when I see some post here and there spell a three letter word I begin to wonder about them. But I a suspicious old fart with alot of imagination.

So forgive me my faults and next time I see a thread running in this direction I'll run the other way. There are plenty of other threads to enjoy. You guys have a good thing going here. This world could use more sites like this.

Traveler

WHIMSICALNBRAINPAN

Sunday, August 6, 2006 6:08 AM

Every browncoat that I know personally is a pot smoker or was at one time. Err... Except me of course. I refuse to engage in such illegal activities.

"Well, here I am." http://whimsicalnbrainpan.blogspot.com/

MISBEHAVEN

Sunday, August 6, 2006 3:15 PM

I agree that this thread isn't the most appropriate for kids, and I'm certainly not endorsing anyone using drugs. But for myself and I suspect many other Browncoats, it's the freedom to make these choices ourselves and not have them dictated to us by a government steeped in hypocrisy that really matters. That said, I'm sorry to hear what you've been through. And when you see the occasional thread like this, please join in. As a society, we all need to learn be more receptive to the opinions of others. Take care and stay sober.

"The only thing that will redeem mankind is cooperation."
- Bertrand Russell

Morbid and creepifying I got no problem with, so long as you do it quiet like.

ECGORDON

Tuesday, April 22, 2014 10:00 PM

Wow, that was a great walk down Memory Lane. This thread predates my joining the site by about four months, although I lurked for a month or two before that. There are only a couple of people I noticed that still post here with any regularity, Traveler and SergeantX. So many people that were once very active but haven't been around in a long time, unless they forgot their login for their accounts and had to create new usernames. Succatash was the life of the party back in the early days, always bringing a unique and wacky perspective to the conversations. Miss him and so many others, and I wish they would return.

FWIW, I haven't smoked pot in many, many years, and never experienced Firefly high. I'm not sure it would have enhanced my enjoyment of it. I told my son recently that there were a lot of things I used to think were terrific but my current perception is not the same, and it might have been because my faculties were impaired when I first saw them.

wo men ren ran zai fei xing.

MOOSE

Wednesday, April 23, 2014 5:17 AM

My first thought at seeing this thread was "Succatash is back! Yay!"
But, being a seasoned pro around here, checked the dates of the thread as soon as I opened it.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Saturday, April 26, 2014 1:42 AM

I generally asumed the proponents of this thread topic were hanging out in RWED as libtards.

JAYNEZTOWN

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