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Sadly, I know I'm a lot more vulnerable than I think I am, if that makes sense.
Yes it does, and it explains a lot. Or, I should say, it shows how smart you are through the bravado.
You're smart all...a girl! I keep expecting to see evil spock with a goatte whipped on.
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But in a way, what I believe about myself defines my reality
I know precisely what you mean. You can just about defy reality with a brave enough front. A slightly related concept I call the Road Runner Thesis: hurtling forward you can do amazing things, just so long as you never look down while you're over the canyon, 'cause if you do, you fall.
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See, I truly see myself as not lonely. So long as I know I'm not lonely, I'll just not be.
I know what you mean, I'm just telling you it's on an egg timer. It's easier for you because in the back of your mind you know you're still hot and still not quite in middle age. The problem is right about fifteen minutes from now. It will change, my pretty.
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Until, of course, it slaps me across the face and says, "Pay attention, dammit!" As it does every now and then
Doubles every year. Just remember. Every year.
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*scowl* You're a real prince. Or another "pri" word with considerably fewer letters.
A prize? Aw, thanks!
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*innocent grin* Who...me? I was, of course, just putting myself in the middle of your little scale -- not too hot, but not too not, if you get my drift.
Actually, if I had to guess I would guess you're pretty decently hot. It fits with your personality.
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See, I'm usually the one who is chastised for "forgetting" to call, for missing a date, for not remembering birthdays/anniversaries. My ex can still remember when we first kissed, for God's sake. I can't even remember the exact day I left him.
Hmm, I'm searching for a word, something to capture how I think about that...oh yeah! Liar. I know for a fact the bravado stance comes from being hurt, so it's very likely the feller is seared into your brain. You see it's like this: the reason you're putting up the front is due to you learning that you ARE vulnerable. People learn they're vulnerable when they get hurt. Now, part of it is nature: I do believe you have a less than needful way, that I believe. But I also know it's exagerated out of a -oh god forgive me for the words- a defense mechanism. You don't merely avoid the sentimental stuff, you put on a SHOW about it.
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Except for that last bit, you're spot-on. You might even be right about the last, though I'm usually far more comfortable around men than I ever am around women.... But if you mean afraid of a real relationship with a man, then you're by-God right on the money.
That's precisely what I meant. I also believe you when you say you run away the first time a man says something soft that girls like to hear.
You should probably go easier on most men than you do though: I speak from experience when I tell you we say that to girls to get them into bed. It's just a trained response. We say something cute, they awww, we keep looking at our watch until we can say "Yaaawwwnnn, this has been great bonding...so, I'm a bit sleepy. Wanna bond some more over there on the bed?".
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I don't disagree on any particular point. Which sucks.
Yeah, it's probably good you realize earlier rather than later that I'm just about always right. So you get used to it and all, you know.
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Heh, I like that I have you all avoiding stuff, though. Makes us even, don't you think?
No. I owe you a real live smack on your rear for your insolence, a good one that leaves a red spot for twenty minutes. You're in luck, being that far away. Real luck.
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Oh how I would enjoy taming you.
Hmm... why would you want to "tame" her?!? In my opinion.. most women (scratch that.. just about ALL women) need a heavy dose of the oposite. They need to learn to discover.. get in touch with.. and set free their inner slut... not be "tamed". But I know what you mean by "tamed"..
.. I am just playing with the word.. Also take what I say with a grain of salt..
.. because this is comming from a guy with an infinite lust that is lucky that there is even one women on this planet that could handle it.. and keep up. 
Smaug..
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Hey Jess!
I used to live in Perth W.A,im not Aussie,but moved there for about 5 years
Still keep me good old Oz residency alive just in case England falls into Civil War,or Plague or the weather gets too wet(actually scrath the last one,it clearly has already reached intolarable)
You into any other sci-Fi stuff or whatever?
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Hey Bitterbierce, start your own "world according to BB" thread so the rest of us can focus on the dating thing.
I promise to visit your thread and say at least a few witty feminist things so you can say witty he-man things in return.
Ask Dr. Science ... he knows more than you do.
"I have a Master's degree ... in science!"
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The Bodhisattva Nagarjuna said that there are only four good types of females: Obedient sisters, loving companions, good mothers and submissive maidservants.
Have you ever:
Used your teeth as wire strippers?
Given yourself stitches?
Made improvised munitions with no base supplies?
Pissed in a canteen?
Gone a month without bathing?
If so, you MIGHT just be a !HOOAH MOTHERF*CKER!
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i cannot believe this has gone as far as it is. lol its funny though
Simon: Are you Alliance?
Jubal Early: Am I a lion?
Simon: What?
Jubal Early: I don't think of myself as a lion. You might as well though, I have a mighty roar.
Simon: I said "Alliance"
Jubal Early: Oh, I thought...
Simon: No, I was...
Jubal Early: That's weird.
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Originally posted by fathounddawg:
Well, shucks, it looks like I arrived late and everybody's gone home.
But just in case anybody's still listening...
I'm a 20-year-old SWF (21 on March 2nd!), going to school in Pittsburgh, PA, but originally from central New Jersey. Aside from FF, I love photography and the written word. I think I'm an easy-going, low maintenance chick - maybe a Kaylee/Zoe, with a bit of River's goofiness thrown into the mix.
Guy-wise, I adore Washies - goofy and smart and sweet and not all hard and muscley. I look for someone who can be a good friend first, and a good boyfriend second. I also love committment (OK, anyone reading just tuned out right there), so one-night-stands don't interest me at all.
Just got out of four years' worth of CRAZY, and I'm not looking to dive into anything, but it's never a bad thing to just have a friend.
Anybody who feels like chatting...hit me up!
Yahoo: honeyloupe
AIM/AOL: SemprUbiSubUbi
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Zoe: "I don't think she'd harm anyone."
Jayne: "Butcher knife!"
Zoe: "Anyone we can't spare."
No kidding. My birthday is the same day, though, a few years earlier.
Always fun to see someone with the same birthday. I even used to live in PA. I miss it sometimes. The snow on the mountains, the green trees.....PS I am smart and sweet and like committment.
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Oh how I would enjoy taming you.
Hmm... why would you want to "tame" her?!? In my opinion.. most women (scratch that.. just about ALL women) need a heavy dose of the oposite. They need to learn to discover.. get in touch with.. and set free their inner slut... not be "tamed". But I know what you mean by "tamed".... I am just playing with the word..
No, I don't think you do know what I mean.
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I would caution against using that question to determine another person's psychology.
I'm only interested in some aspects of your personality. nice of you to be concerned about the psychological accuracy of my novel's characters, but I know what I'm doing
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I don't have a personality like either
I know you are not the incarnation of Mal or Jayne. Neither is the character in my story. I can talk about my theories about people if you want, but I thought it would be better to just pose a simple question (that would give me some kind of indication).
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I couldn't let this thread die without taking the chance to work out aspects of your psyche to the finest detail
Err yeah, silly thing to say. Was trying to be jokey but forgot the no.1 rule of web conversation: grin like a monkey using emoticons whenever you use the slightest hint of irony.
Of course it's no problem for yourself cos ppl know there's no danger of you ever being serious!
too much?So, seriously again - are you happy to answer my question?
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This is the really sad thing... all you guys out there that think the whole "lesbian" thing is hot (I don't get it)..
What's to get? It's addition. One woman = good. Two women = twice as good. It's always at least slightly disconcerting to have another man around who isn't you anyway, so it's a way to see them have sex without an enemy penis. Two of them!
I do understand why it leaves some people cold, though. I didn't get it until one day in my late 20's, when it just suddenly MADE SENSE. And I mean all at once, in one instant. I believe my exact phrase was "ohhhh, TWO women!". See, cause it's more than one woman! Having SEX!
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Sure. Mal.
So, what insight did it give you?
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Originally posted by Redag:
Late to the party, but never too late to try...
Twenty-nine year old male, center-left politics, a good reader and excellent taste in my choice of media entertainment. Seeking Firefly-aware lass for various fun expeditions, particularly thai food expeditions.
MMmmm Thai food. You don't happen to live anywhere near South Carolina do you? (I know my odds are zero to none, but it can't hurt to ask.) I just recently discovered a fabulous Thai restaurant in Columbia!
Serenity, First Officer of Destiny
President of the Juggled Gosling Chatroom
I have a live journal: http://www.livejournal.com/users/callmeserenity/
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No, I don't think you do know what I mean.
And you are basing this on what? Oh.. I see.. nothing. You would be wrong..
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What's to get? It's addition. One woman = good. Two women = twice as good.
You are not comparing apples to apples.. it's not twice as good if neither of those women want to have anything to do with you! A billion women does not equal a billion times as good.. if they want to have nothing to do with you.. Like I said.. be careful what you wish for. Personally.. it's not that I don't "get it".. I know most guys think the lesbian thing is "so hot" or whatever.. it's really more than I only care to have s*x with the same woman a million times... not a million women once. So it doesn't matter to me if it's two women or a billion.. You can have your harem.. I only want and need my one true soul slave.. who can keep up.. and needs me like she needs to breath.
Smaug..
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No kidding. My birthday is the same day, though, a few years earlier. Always fun to see someone with the same birthday. I even used to live in PA. I miss it sometimes. The snow on the mountains, the green trees.....
PS I am smart and sweet and like committment.
No way! Well, happy almost birthday, then!
You, me, Dr. Seuss and apparently Big Ben Rothelisberger. We're in good company.

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Zoe: "I don't think she'd harm anyone."
Jayne: "Butcher knife!"
Zoe: "Anyone we can't spare."
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Hard-a$$ed, no-maintenance, determinedly-single WF in Middle US seeks equally-determinedly-single, no-maintenance Jayne-type male. Must be willing to let me clean his guns and lick/sharpen his buck knife. Must refuse any lasting commitment outside the sack. Must not have a problem with heartless, snarky females who mind their own business when not doing business.
heh, kinda sounds like me a bit, when I'm not acting all broody like Mal. LOL. Except I live in the Middle of Canada, and I don't own guns (But I want them).
Here's mine:
SW Malcolm Reynolds seeking Inara Serra in Manitoba to have verbal spats and not admit our true feelings to one another, but we both know it.
"I aim to misbehave."
"Can't do something smart, do something right".
HOMER: "Oh Lisa, you and your stories; Bart is a vampire, beer kills brain cells. Now lets go back to that... building thingy... where our beds and T.V.... is".
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Originally posted by ChrisMoorhead:
The Bodhisattva Nagarjuna said that there are only four good types of females: Obedient sisters, loving companions, good mothers and submissive maidservants.
Would be that you would get a might Philosophical about the opposite sex?
Men hate to admit it but sometimes just like us chicks you get to philosophifize (SP) about us chicks? I mean women not chickens!
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Originally posted by fathounddawg:
No way! Well, happy almost birthday, then!![]()
You, me, Dr. Seuss and apparently Big Ben Rothelisberger. We're in good company.
Happy birthday to you too.

Big Ben, eh? Living in Pittsburgh, have you had one of those gi-normous sandwiches, the Roethlisberger? I heard about it on TV and it looks absolutely outrageous.
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I'm a little late to this party (and new to the site), but I'm procrastinating so here goes:
21 year old (almost 22!) SWF in Madison, WI. I'm in college and I work a lot. I'm random, spontaneous, and occasionally prone to neurotic female moments. I love skydiving, scuba diving, travelling, dancing, and having a damn good time. I revel in my own awkwardness. Sometimes I mutter in German or Vietnamese. I plan on fleeing the country for a few years when I graduate before eventually returning to attend medical school.
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Happy birthday to you too.
Big Ben, eh? Living in Pittsburgh, have you had one of those gi-normous sandwiches, the Roethlisberger? I heard about it on TV and it looks absolutely outrageous.
Thanks!

I haven't had that one, but there is a bar called Fat Head's that's famous for their excessive sandwiches and I did once try to eat one of those. :) It was featured in Maxim, I think. (The sandwich, not me eating it.)
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Zoe: "I don't think she'd harm anyone."
Jayne: "Butcher knife!"
Zoe: "Anyone we can't spare."
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Originally posted by fathounddawg:
Thanks!
I haven't had that one, but there is a bar called Fat Head's that's famous for their excessive sandwiches and I did once try to eat one of those. :) It was featured in Maxim, I think. (The sandwich, not me eating it.)
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Zoe: "I don't think she'd harm anyone."
Jayne: "Butcher knife!"
Zoe: "Anyone we can't spare."
Have you ever heard of Denny's Beer Barrel Pub in Clearfield, PA? It is only about a 2 hour drive from Pittsburgh. You want an "excessive" sandwich, they have 2, 3 and 6 pound hamburgers. Honest! If you can finish it in a certain amount of time, you go up on the Wall of Fame, get a t-shirt and your meal is free.

www.dennysbeerbarrelpub.com
They were on Food Network once. I have witnessed people trying the 2 pounder. None of them finished.
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Wow.
Do they drive you to the hospital after, too? 
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Zoe: "I don't think she'd harm anyone."
Jayne: "Butcher knife!"
Zoe: "Anyone we can't spare."
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Sir, I so apologize for the lateness of my reply. I was at work, but that is no excuse. I promise to never let my meaningless life toils interfere with your more important needs/wishes/desires EVER again.
*bows head...to hide snickers*
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Sadly, I know I'm a lot more vulnerable than I think I am, if that makes sense.
Yes it does, and it explains a lot. Or, I should say, it shows how smart you are through the bravado.
You're smart all...a girl! I keep expecting to see evil spock with a goatte whipped on.
Heh. None of that. I am a female, though I've never been particularly girlish. *snerk*
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You can just about defy reality with a brave enough front. A slightly related concept I call the Road Runner Thesis: hurtling forward you can do amazing things, just so long as you never look down while you're over the canyon, 'cause if you do, you fall.
I've long been tempted to try that. Too bad my belief in regular physics flubs up my belief in cartoon physics. *sigh*
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It's easier for you because in the back of your mind you know you're still hot and still not quite in middle age.
*laugh* I swear I never ONCE said I'm hot! I sincerely hate to disagree with you, Sir, but I distinctly remember saying that I put myself smack dab in the middle of the scale.
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Until, of course, it slaps me across the face and says, "Pay attention, dammit!" As it does every now and then
Doubles every year. Just remember. Every year.
Sir, you're a b*stard. Just thought you should know that.
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A prize? Aw, thanks!
Damn. I'm SO not good at this submissive thing, because I was TOTALLY thinking "prick"...Sir.
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Actually, if I had to guess I would guess you're pretty decently hot. It fits with your personality.
I never said that! *grin* I'm more the "cute" side of pretty, much to my eternal dismay. More...say...Drew Barrymore than Carmen Elektra, if that makes sense.
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Hmm, I'm searching for a word, something to capture how I think about that...oh yeah! Liar. I know for a fact the bravado stance comes from being hurt, so it's very likely the feller is seared into your brain.
Actually, the sad fact is that while I'm a GREAT friend and fun to talk to, I am a TERRIBLE girlfriend. I don't do girlfriend stuff, and that seriously does weird guys out. Maybe it is false bravado, but said bravado was formed well before The Guy because it's half the reason I left him.
I wasn't what he needed, though he thought I was. *shrug* He needed someone to...I dunno...take care of. I didn't need that kind of attention, and it made us both unhappy.
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I do believe you have a less than needful way, that I believe. But I also know it's exagerated out of a -oh god forgive me for the words- a defense mechanism. You don't merely avoid the sentimental stuff, you put on a SHOW about it.
True and not true. It's true that it is nature. It's just my way. But it has been blown out of proportion, thanks to the past relationship with The Guy. I was independent before. Now, I'm FIERCELY independent.
See, he tried to kinda coerce me into being dependent, calling it compromise. I compromised so much before I finally broke it off that I barely recognized myself after it was over.
Once I realized what had happened, I determined that it would never happen again. There's nothing wrong with change/compromise in a relationship, but when one side is always compromising and the other isn't, that's...GIVING IN.
Never again, even if I never find a man who appreciates the struggle.
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I also believe you when you say you run away the first time a man says something soft that girls like to hear.
Like the Gingerbread Man, Sir. Like the WIND.
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"Yaaawwwnnn, this has been great bonding...so, I'm a bit sleepy. Wanna bond some more over there on the bed?".
See, a guy
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*griiiiiin*
Bring it on, Sir. Bring it on.
What did I say earlier? Everyone's real brave when they're out of range of my mitts...or my hand. Feel that slight twinge? It was your butt thanking you.
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And sorry to anyone else who feels we've taken over this thread. It's not intentional...it's just that there's so much to say!
Oh Christ. Don't acknowledge them, gut. And if you do, whatever on God's green earth you do, don't damned well crawl around and apologize.
Never apologize, never explain.
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He PROVOKES me! He does it on PURPOSE!
I knew it. You turn on me the second we're faced with inevitable crushing defeat. Women.
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Actually, the sad fact is that while I'm a GREAT friend and fun to talk to, I am a TERRIBLE girlfriend. I don't do girlfriend stuff, and that seriously does weird guys out. Maybe it is false bravado, but said bravado was formed well before The Guy because it's half the reason I left him.
Harken the angels cry, the sixth Seal has been broken. And among the angels lament of Hade's impending Dominion, there came The Prophecy to save Mankind. A creature rumored to exist but protected by the sacral depth of devils and seraphim alike: a girl fuck-buddy who won't get all emotional!
And of course you're some kind of goddamn yankee and live somehwere else. Could go watch Serenity, fuck, watch some Firefly, fuck some more, and then go shoot pool or let you throw some bowling balls through a window or something and then go HOME (after a last fuck clearly); a perfect sunday. You'd have to be outright ugly and bad in bed not to be worth it now. I knew it- you exist and you're unavailable. Oh well, easy come...
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Originally posted by BitterBierce:
What did I say earlier? Everyone's real brave when they're out of range of my mitts...or my hand. Feel that slight twinge? It was your butt thanking you.
Heheheh...no comment.
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Never apologize, never explain.
Never give up! Never surrender!
Except to you, of course.
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A creature rumored to exist but protected by the sacral depth of devils and seraphim alike: a girl fuck-buddy who won't get all emotional!
*grin* Now I feel all Biblical and shit. Nice!
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And of course you're some kind of goddamn yankee and live somehwere else.
HEY! I'm no Yankee! My home state happens to straddle the Mason-Dixon line, thank you very much, Sir. Just 'cause I'm north of the Lone Star don't mean I'm against straddling--
...Wait...heh...I said "straddle"....
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Could go watch Serenity, fuck, watch some Firefly, fuck some more, and then go shoot pool or let you throw some bowling balls through a window or something and then go HOME (after a last fuck clearly); a perfect sunday.
You're making a very good case for me moving to Texas. Or at least making a quickie...errr...QUICK trip. Big jerk.
Sir.
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You'd have to be outright ugly and bad in bed not to be worth it now. I knew it- you exist and you're unavailable. Oh well, easy come...
*grin* I like that you didn't finish that statement.
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Originally posted by fathounddawg:
Do they drive you to the hospital after, too?
To the best of my knowledge, the ambulance ride is extra.

To further turn your stomach, there is a pizza place in Denver, CO that serves pizza by the pound. They have these giant 7 pound pizzas with the same contest type rules for eating it. I have only seen this on TV. Even an avid pizza lover such as I felt a little queasy after seeing people try to consume that.
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To further turn your stomach, there is a pizza place in Denver, CO that serves pizza by the pound. They have these giant 7 pound pizzas with the same contest type rules for eating it. I have only seen this on TV. Even an avid pizza lover such as I felt a little queasy after seeing people try to consume that.
A 7 pound pizza would be like eating 7 pounds of bread...unless it's totally overloaded with toppings. Either way...yikes.
There's an ice cream shop near my house that has some sort of "mega bowl" that's 15 scoops or something like that. 15 scoops of ice cream doesn't sound like a lot...but it sure looks huge.
I can't decide if this conversation is making me hungry or nauseous. lol
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Zoe: "I don't think she'd harm anyone."
Jayne: "Butcher knife!"
Zoe: "Anyone we can't spare."
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Ok, first things first, what the hell is a snerk? I mean, it's pretty obvious it's close to snark which is like snarky, but it occurs to me those ain't words neither.
Oh, and watching FF eating good grub after an excellent romp with the new/old girl I inject fluids into these days- she smiles and says "Jayne makes my girl parts tingle". I did have to laugh. Never heard that one before. For some reason, I thought of you.
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"You're making a very good case for me moving to Texas. Or at least making a quickie...errr...QUICK trip. Big jerk"
The key is to be a jerk enough to get women to spread for you. Then you can be nice some, but not too much. Then they say "awwwww" when you do something minimally kind. Then you feel like you've accomplished something, turned a tough guy a little nice. That's the key to you womenfolk, you all want the same thing. You want a bad boy to be good to YOU.
I should teach this to young men for five hundred a pop. The Tony Robbins of poon, except I don't look like Lurch.
* - Messy sex, then fajitas while watching Out of Gas in a gazeebo with a great view...that is my idea of a great evening. You'd have to watch the entire Mexican air force crash land into a liquid petroleum storage facility to get a more satisfying feeling, I'm here to tell you.
"All women have three motivations: the one they say they have, the one they think they have, and the ones they really have" - Sir James
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A 7 pound pizza would be like eating 7 pounds of bread...unless it's totally overloaded with toppings. Either way...yikes.
There's an ice cream shop near my house that has some sort of "mega bowl" that's 15 scoops or something like that. 15 scoops of ice cream doesn't sound like a lot...but it sure looks huge.
I can't decide if this conversation is making me hungry or nauseous. lol
I know what you mean. 15 scoops of ice cream is a heck of a lot of ice cream. I love ice cream and all, but that would, obviously, be too much for me. I guess this is part of the problem when it comes to American portion control.
I am amazed sometimes when I look at labels and see how little one serving really is. It makes me feel bad. :(
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Yeppers, Not TOO far... (Not like Toronto and Vancouver, thats a drive!)
Ya I guess we are rivals and well all know how Mustangs are...![]()
hee hee
I'm in Arts, thinking of sticking around for honours and a minor... I don't know!!!
You're in Poli-Sci eh? How are you liking that?
Do you drive? hee hee
Hey! I resemble that Mustang remarkJust kidding!
I like poli-sci, I'm (hopefully) graduating this year with an honors degree. Then I'm going back for a year to complete a diploma in writing before applying to grad school. That's the plan anyway.
So what kind of arts classes are you taking? Is it visual arts or English or...?
Yeah, I drive...
Hiya.
You're doing your diploma at Western?
The grad school, wow you are a machine!
I'm actually in Spanish (its just under the Arts program/college thingy)
after that, time for a real job!Job hunting sucks!
No I'm a horrible drawer. I struggle with stick figures lol.
You have MSN or something? Or is it possible to talk through private messages or something?
Hey,
Yeah it's a diploma/certificate thing (depends on whether you complete it with a degree or after, I find out today which it'll be for me)
And the grad school thing is hopefully!
Spanish - cool.

I got your PM, so will respond with the rest that way.
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Philosophy is almost a natural reaction to things we don't understand enough to make a science out of, so yes, I get very philosophical about women. Females make no sense.
Males are much easier to understand on average, as their minds usually work in more simple and immediate ways. If a woman can't understand a man, chances are it's because she's thinking too hard.
Both genders are a source of unending frustration for me, but the few times women have entered any of my "circles", things became infinately more confusing. I'd have to say that the happiest times in my life were when I was deployed and there were absolutley no women around. I had to worry about being shot at on a daily basis, but I honestly remember those times being more enjoyable and relaxing than any time I had a female in my life.
Have you ever:
Used your teeth as wire strippers?
Given yourself stitches?
Made improvised munitions with no base supplies?
Pissed in a canteen?
Gone a month without bathing?
If so, you MIGHT just be a !HOOAH MOTHERF*CKER!
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I know what you mean. 15 scoops of ice cream is a heck of a lot of ice cream. I love ice cream and all, but that would, obviously, be too much for me. I guess this is part of the problem when it comes to American portion control.I am amazed sometimes when I look at labels and see how little one serving really is. It makes me feel bad. :(
I think a lot of that is just a dirty advertising trick, so they can say "buy our package of 6 donuts! Only 150 calories!" So you get sucked in and don't realize it's really 150 calories per donut until you've eaten like 4.

Or maybe my communications/marketing focus has made me cynical. :)
Portions are out of control, I'll give you that, but it's hard to avoid, for reasons bigger than just gluttony. Eating - especially eating food worth eating - is such a sensual experience.
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I think a lot of that is just a dirty advertising trick, so they can say "buy our package of 6 donuts! Only 150 calories!" So you get sucked in and don't realize it's really 150 calories per donut until you've eaten like 4.
Or maybe my communications/marketing focus has made me cynical. :)
Portions are out of control, I'll give you that, but it's hard to avoid, for reasons bigger than just gluttony. Eating - especially eating food worth eating - is such a sensual experience.
150 calories for a donut? More like 550 calories.
Ah, but who can resist a good donut? 
I was watching TV the other day and saw an ad for a burger at some chain American restaurant (like Chilis) and the thing was enormous. Or those triple cheese burgers at Wendy's. Not that they taste bad, I am sure they taste great but they are so outrageous.
Hm. Sensual experience, eh? Channeling a little Kaylee are you?
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150 calories for a donut? More like 550 calories.Ah, but who can resist a good donut?
Heh...well...a gal can dream, right? :)
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I was watching TV the other day and saw an ad for a burger at some chain American restaurant (like Chilis) and the thing was enormous. Or those triple cheese burgers at Wendy's. Not that they taste bad, I am sure they taste great but they are so outrageous.Hm. Sensual experience, eh? Channeling a little Kaylee are you?
Burgers are especially tricky, I think, because what makes a burger really good is the stuff you put on it and it's easy to go overboard on that. Before you know it, your burger is overwhelmed and eight inches high.
Haha...I guess I was, you're right. :) Though I think a strawberry is a lot sexier to eat than a big meaty burger! lol
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Burgers are especially tricky, I think, because what makes a burger really good is the stuff you put on it and it's easy to go overboard on that. Before you know it, your burger is overwhelmed and eight inches high.![]()
Haha...I guess I was, you're right. :) Though I think a strawberry is a lot sexier to eat than a big meaty burger! lol
As long as we are dreaming, I would like a million dollars.

I agree about the burgers. Me, I am a traditionalist. Lettuce, tomato, onion, ketchup and mayo. No pickles. No mustard. No peppers.
What was that burger chain that was trying to sell the sexiness of the burger using that blonde hotel bimbo, Paris Hilton? They seemed to think burgers are pretty sexy. I take your side, though, not really all that sensual.
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Y'see, this is a true sign of civilisation gone mad.
So removed from the primal hunter-gatherer stuff, its made so convenient, we are totally removed from its production, it arrives neatly packaged and rarely resembling its natural state.
Food has passed beyond a 'sensual experience' (and it really is, eating is the most fun you can have with your knickers on*) and is now a challenge.
little more than a game, you can win prizes!
lordy, rant over. Just had to be said.
of course its now occured to me that all those 'primal' hunting urges are being channelled elseware, and like a cooped up budgerigar, growing ever desperate to get out. You want proof?
ladies and gentlemen, I give you the little lurve-monkey himself...*drumroll* Bitterbierce!
of course, i'm wrong, men like BB have been around always, thats why he's so damn cool - he's the only man i've ever known who openly admits his John Thomas is running the show.
Still wouldn't sleep with him though, Call me a fool, but there something attractive about that whole illusion of sophistication, I kinda like men who feel but don't tell.
Speaking of which...
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SW Malcolm Reynolds seeking Inara Serra in Manitoba to have verbal spats and not admit our true feelings to one another, but we both know it.
And you're in Canada dammit!
Gods! Never have I detested a body of water quite so much... ...gorramn Atlantic...
*and by eating I mean the likes of raspberries and honey rather than the innards of a herd animal.
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As long as we are dreaming, I would like a million dollars.
I agree about the burgers. Me, I am a traditionalist. Lettuce, tomato, onion, ketchup and mayo. No pickles. No mustard. No peppers.
What was that burger chain that was trying to sell the sexiness of the burger using that blonde hotel bimbo, Paris Hilton? They seemed to think burgers are pretty sexy. I take your side, though, not really all that sensual.
Um...a million dollars...10 more seasons of Firefly...a Serenity triology...

I haven't had a burger in ages, now that I think of it. I like lots of lettuce and ketchup and mayo, cheese too, maybe bacon if it's real bacon and not that paper thin faux bacon crap. Tomatoes are problematic because they slip and slide all around, but good, nonetheless. I'm a big fan of juicy sauteed onions. Yum yum!
I love the commercial for Date Movie (which I heard was pretty awful) with the chick and the burger, mocking the Paris Hilton spot. I guess I love pretty much anything making fun of Paris. But then...it's almost too easy.

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Philosophy is almost a natural reaction to things we don't understand enough to make a science out of, so yes, I get very philosophical about women. Females make no sense.
Males are much easier to understand on average, as their minds usually work in more simple and immediate ways. If a woman can't understand a man, chances are it's because she's thinking too hard.
Both genders are a source of unending frustration for me, but the few times women have entered any of my "circles", things became infinately more confusing. I'd have to say that the happiest times in my life were when I was deployed and there were absolutley no women around. I had to worry about being shot at on a daily basis, but I honestly remember those times being more enjoyable and relaxing than any time I had a female in my life.
"When man says woman is a mystery, what he means is that she is a mystery to him."
Apples to oranges.
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Ok, first things first, what the hell is a snerk? I mean, it's pretty obvious it's close to snark which is like snarky, but it occurs to me those ain't words neither.
Heh, a snerk is just a cross between a smirk and a snark. It's a little meaner than a smirk, but there's still humor in it, dark though it may be.
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...she smiles and says "Jayne makes my girl parts tingle". I did have to laugh. Never heard that one before. For some reason, I thought of you.
Awww...that's almost sweet. 'S a good thing I think it's hilarious instead. Heheh.
And yes, Jayne does indeed make my girl parts tingle. He's...lots of fun.
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Heh, see the above. You did get an AWWW, but I have no delusions of turning you even remotely nice. Considering that you thought of me with another girl and all. *snerk*
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That's the key to you womenfolk, you all want the same thing. You want a bad boy to be good to YOU.
You got something goin' there, Sir. Might wanna run with that. As Jayne says, "Far as psychology goes, that ain't bad."
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Females make no sense.
Amen, man. Truer words were never spoken. And I AM female.
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I'd have to say that the happiest times in my life were when I was deployed and there were absolutley no women around. I had to worry about being shot at on a daily basis, but I honestly remember those times being more enjoyable and relaxing than any time I had a female in my life.
I'd have to admit that the most relaxing times I've ever had were when I was the only girl around. Me and my guy friends get along just fine...until a "real" girl walks in.
You know, one that doesn't like football but pretends to, doesn't like beer or BBQ but pretends to, and fixes her hair and make-up to watch baseball because she can't imagine wearing a baseball shirt for that particular team without looking fetching in it.
*facepalm*
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Perhaps if gutterball keeps you talking I'll learn enough to cement my theories and we can all look forward to a film/theatre/novel immortalisation of the infamous BitterBierce.
So...my mission, should I choose to accept it, is to keep the Sir talking? Hmm....
Will this communique self-destruct in five seconds?
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You could say that about anything.
"When a man says Coca-Cola tastes good, he means it tastes good to him."
Not trying to pick a fight, but I don't need to be reminded that my opinions are my opinions. I've been proven wrong enough to know that.
Have you ever:
Used your teeth as wire strippers?
Given yourself stitches?
Made improvised munitions with no base supplies?
Pissed in a canteen?
Gone a month without bathing?
If so, you MIGHT just be a !HOOAH MOTHERF*CKER!
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You could say that about anything. It's kind of the point.
Not trying to pick a fight either, but my
ex
used to give me a line all the time about men being somehow "better" than women because he could understand men. (Which, him being a man and not a woman, makes sense, don't you think?)
So I guess I'm sensitive about being labeled hard to understand because I don't see myself that way at all. (Which, again, makes sense.)
Sorry if you felt like I was jumping down your throat, didn't mean it to be like that.
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I think Henry Kissinger said, "The battle of the sexes will never be won. There's too much fraternizing with the enemy."
Just seems to fit. Let's fraternize, people!
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I think Henry Kissinger said, "The battle of the sexes will never be won. There's too much fraternizing with the enemy."
Just seems to fit. Let's fraternize, people!
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Heh...I like that! Sounds like solid reasoning to me.

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I haven't had a burger in ages, now that I think of it. I like lots of lettuce and ketchup and mayo, cheese too, maybe bacon if it's real bacon and not that paper thin faux bacon crap. Tomatoes are problematic because they slip and slide all around, but good, nonetheless. I'm a big fan of juicy sauteed onions. Yum yum!
I love the commercial for Date Movie (which I heard was pretty awful) with the chick and the burger, mocking the Paris Hilton spot. I guess I love pretty much anything making fun of Paris. But then...it's almost too easy.
It is hard to top a good burger, at least, for me it is.
Fake bacon? Facon?
I heard it called that on a TV show once. Got me thinking about all other manner of vegetarian offerings like those tofurkeys for Thanksgiving. My friends and I came up with "falsage" rather than "sausage" and thought we could come up with a whole line of funny names for meat-less products but that was as far as we got.Every time I see that bimbo on TV or in the news, I just shake my head.
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Not trying to pick a fight either, but my ex used to give me a line all the time about men being somehow "better" than women because he could understand men.
Well now that's a bit of the standard complaint: both men and women do standard frustrated complaining and primping about the opposite sex. Just the difference is men are supposed to sit there and take it while women run riot and sneer endlessly about men.. Women are allowed to be "sensitive" if the reverse happens. Although that's a general oservation and not so much directed at you because I havent' seen you whine much. But, you brought it up so I talked about it.
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Well now that's a bit of the standard complaint: both men and women do standard frustrated complaining and primping about the opposite sex. Just the difference is men are supposed to sit there and take it while women run riot and sneer endlessly about men.. Women are allowed to be "sensitive" if the reverse happens. Although that's a general oservation and not so much directed at you because I havent' seen you whine much. But, you brought it up so I talked about it.
Well, complaining is complaining - and everyone complains, especially about the opposite sex. I don't think it should become a person's mantra, whatever their gender. Women get away with it more because men are too scared to tell them to shut the hell up and move on.
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It is hard to top a good burger, at least, for me it is. Fake bacon? Facon? I heard it called that on a TV show once. Got me thinking about all other manner of vegetarian offerings like those tofurkeys for Thanksgiving. My friends and I came up with "falsage" rather than "sausage" and thought we could come up with a whole line of funny names for meat-less products but that was as far as we got.
I don't understand why people who don't eat meat are (apparently) so interested in eating things that taste like meat. All or nothin', I say!
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Perhaps if gutterball keeps you talking I'll learn enough to cement my theories and we can all look forward to a film/theatre/novel immortalisation of the infamous BitterBierce.
So...my mission, should I choose to accept it, is to keep the Sir talking? Hmm....
Will this communique self-destruct in five seconds?
My message self destructed the second you finished reading it. I just wish you hadn't pasted a chunk of it in your reply post!
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Will this communique self-destruct in five seconds?
My message self destructed the second you finished reading it. I just wish you hadn't pasted a chunk of it in your reply post!
Heh. Couldn't help myself. Had to preserve even a tiny piece.
For posterity, ya know.
Singed my hand a bit, though. If it makes you feel any better.
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I don't understand why people who don't eat meat are (apparently) so interested in eating things that taste like meat. All or nothin', I say!
Yeah, when I became a vegetarian a while back I gave up any hope of eating anything that tasted good. Then I joined the Army and found it exceedingly difficult (and by difficult, I mean impossible) to maintain as a veg-head during Basic. And so the Army brought back to me all the tastey meats of the world.
I like this story. It's true and it has a happy ending.
Have you ever:
Used your teeth as wire strippers?
Given yourself stitches?
Made improvised munitions with no base supplies?
Pissed in a canteen?
Gone a month without bathing?
If so, you MIGHT just be a !HOOAH MOTHERF*CKER!
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God bless meat.
Besides, if God didn't want us eating animals, he wouldn't have made them taste like meat.
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I don't understand why people who don't eat meat are (apparently) so interested in eating things that taste like meat. All or nothin', I say!
Well, I some vegetarians I have encountered in my life do not like meat for ethical reasons (do not like the consumption of animals; feel that animals are treated badly). This does not have to do with the taste of meat, therefore, vegetarians that feel this way may like the taste of meat, they just do not like having to consume animals to do it. Another type of vegetarian simply does not like how meat tastes, so, naturally, they would probably not be a good target market for meat-flavored products. I tried the vegetarian thing once, but it was quite difficult if you do not know how to make up the protein. Obviously, since I have been spouting off about how much I like hamburgers, I gave it up.
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Well, I some vegetarians I have encountered in my life do not like meat for ethical reasons (do not like the consumption of animals; feel that animals are treated badly). This does not have to do with the taste of meat, therefore, vegetarians that feel this way may like the taste of meat, they just do not like having to consume animals to do it. Another type of vegetarian simply does not like how meat tastes, so, naturally, they would probably not be a good target market for meat-flavored products.
I tried the vegetarian thing once, but it was quite difficult if you do not know how to make up the protein. Obviously, since I have been spouting off about how much I like hamburgers, I gave it up.
I understand the ethical issues behind why people become vegetarians. I was one myself (for all of two hours) when I was 14, it just seems silly to me to have such a craving for something you've told yourself it's wrong to eat.
Anyway.
You said you used to be in PA. Where do you call home nowadays?
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You said you used to be in PA. Where do you call home nowadays?
Yes ma'am. Used to live in PA. Now I live in North Carolina (hence, the ma'am). I have picked up a handful of phrases from this area. Are you originally from PA?
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Yes ma'am. Used to live in PA. Now I live in North Carolina (hence, the ma'am). I have picked up a handful of phrases from this area. Are you originally from PA?
I don't think I'm old enough to be a "ma'am" yet, but I appreciate the sentiment.
I'm a Jersey girl, born and raised. Just in PA for school. Don't think I'll go back to NJ afterwards, though - except to visit.
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I don't think I'm old enough to be a "ma'am" yet, but I appreciate the sentiment.![]()
I'm a Jersey girl, born and raised. Just in PA for school. Don't think I'll go back to NJ afterwards, though - except to visit.
I have a couple of friends that live in New Jersey. Visited there a couple of times myself. No desire to go back? Why is that, if you do not mind my asking? Aside from the full service gas stations and the "jughandles" for making turns, I thought it was a nice place.
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I have a couple of friends that live in New Jersey. Visited there a couple of times myself. No desire to go back? Why is that, if you do not mind my asking? Aside from the full service gas stations and the "jughandles" for making turns, I thought it was a nice place.
Hey, jughandles are a beautiful, beautiful thing! :)
Well, I was born in NJ and raised in NJ and don't feel any special attachment to my hometown (outside of friend and family, who won't be there much longer anyway). I'm ready for some new scenery.
Plus, it's expensive to live there and as an English major, I've resigned myself to a life of poverty.

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[Hey, jughandles are a beautiful, beautiful thing! :)
Well, I was born in NJ and raised in NJ and don't feel any special attachment to my hometown (outside of friend and family, who won't be there much longer anyway). I'm ready for some new scenery.
Plus, it's expensive to live there and as an English major, I've resigned myself to a life of poverty.
Perhaps the jughandles take some getting used to.
I see. New scenery. I understand. Partly how I ended up down here.
Always fun to go new places. Have ideas for a "dream" locale to set up shop?
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Perhaps the jughandles take some getting used to.
I see. New scenery. I understand. Partly how I ended up down here.Always fun to go new places. Have ideas for a "dream" locale to set up shop?
I could understand if circles were upsetting, but jughandles just work so nice. I'm always a little confused when I get to places that don't have them. lol
Where I get into grad school determines where I'll be for a little while, and that could be anywhere in the US. I've always wanted to go to Scotland, maybe live there for a bit. We shall see, we shall see...
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Where I get into grad school determines where I'll be for a little while, and that could be anywhere in the US. I've always wanted to go to Scotland, maybe live there for a bit. We shall see, we shall see...
Ah graduate school. I went through that (though, not in English). I would be interested to hear how graduate school works for English majors. I would imagine that some things are the same while others are quite different. What do you plan on studying?
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Ah graduate school. I went through that (though, not in English). I would be interested to hear how graduate school works for English majors. I would imagine that some things are the same while others are quite different. What do you plan on studying?
I'm going for the MFA (Master of Fine Arts) degree, which is centered around creative writing - fiction, poetry, screenplays, etc - and critical theory. I plan to study/write fiction.
The other option, a straight Master of Arts, in English is generally literature-based, as I understand it. I definitely want the MFA first, but certainly may return for an MA or even PhD later on.
I'm in love with the written word, you could say.

What did you get your Masters in?
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I'm going for the MFA (Master of Fine Arts) degree, which is centered around creative writing - fiction, poetry, screenplays, etc - and critical theory. I plan to study/write fiction.
The other option, a straight Master of Arts, in English is generally literature-based, as I understand it. I definitely want the MFA first, but certainly may return for an MA or even PhD later on.
I'm in love with the written word, you could say.
What did you get your Masters in?
Cool. The MFA sounds interesting. I would love to be able to write a novel someday. I used to *try* writing short stories and poems when I was in high school and college. Never was any good at it, though.
Do you want to try your hand at writing as your career in the future?That would be neat-o.
I would be a little jealous.I got a PhD in toxicology. Hey! I am a science nerd. I like fictional novels. Thus, I like science fiction. Hahaha.
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Cool. The MFA sounds interesting. I would love to be able to write a novel someday. I used to *try* writing short stories and poems when I was in high school and college. Never was any good at it, though.Do you want to try your hand at writing as your career in the future?That would be neat-o.
I would be a little jealous.
I got a PhD in toxicology. Hey! I am a science nerd. I like fictional novels. Thus, I like science fiction. Hahaha.
Ooooh, a smarty pants!
And what are you doing with that? Living the glamorous life of a doctor or research or what?I'd love to someday publish a book or two or six. I don't know that I would make it my full-time career (so hard to support yourself that way!), but it's definitely something I'd like to do all my life in one way or another. Lately I've been toying with the idea of teaching creative writing at the college level, so maybe that. Or maybe go into publishing/editing, stuff like that.
It's all just speculation for now.
I still have a year before I graduate and then (hopefully) grad school after that, so...there's time to make up my mind. Then again, the Real World is scary. Maybe I'll just stay a student all my life.
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Ooooh, a smarty pants!And what are you doing with that? Living the glamorous life of a doctor or research or what?
I'd love to someday publish a book or two or six. I don't know that I would make it my full-time career (so hard to support yourself that way!), but it's definitely something I'd like to do all my life in one way or another. Lately I've been toying with the idea of teaching creative writing at the college level, so maybe that. Or maybe go into publishing/editing, stuff like that.
It's all just speculation for now.I still have a year before I graduate and then (hopefully) grad school after that, so...there's time to make up my mind.
Then again, the Real World is scary. Maybe I'll just stay a student all my life.
No smarty pants here. Just a working stiff.
I think persistence is a big part of being successful in graduate school. the desire to keep going even when things are not going as well as you had hoped or like. It is not the only thing, nor the biggest thing, but it is a part of it.Teaching would be good. There is always a shortage of good and willing teachers in this world. I would love to publish a novel. That would be so cool. I hope you succeed.
The real world is not so scary. More things to think about (insurance for various things, retirement, savings etc) but it is not so bad. I was glad to leave the student world behind when I finally finished graduate school.
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I have a couple of friends that live in New Jersey. Visited there a couple of times myself. No desire to go back? Why is that, if you do not mind my asking? Aside from the full service gas stations and the "jughandles" for making turns, I thought it was a nice place.
Hey, jughandles are a beautiful, beautiful thing! :)
Well, I was born in NJ and raised in NJ and don't feel any special attachment to my hometown (outside of friend and family, who won't be there much longer anyway). I'm ready for some new scenery.
Plus, it's expensive to live there and as an English major, I've resigned myself to a life of poverty.
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. I saw my life flash so many times I can recite it now. Pretty boring stuff though. Nice to see someone someone else from PA. I live in West Chester, PA.That sounds...special.
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No smarty pants here. Just a working stiff.I think persistence is a big part of being successful in graduate school. the desire to keep going even when things are not going as well as you had hoped or like. It is not the only thing, nor the biggest thing, but it is a part of it.
Teaching would be good. There is always a shortage of good and willing teachers in this world. I would love to publish a novel. That would be so cool. I hope you succeed.
The real world is not so scary. More things to think about (insurance for various things, retirement, savings etc) but it is not so bad. I was glad to leave the student world behind when I finally finished graduate school.
Aw, geez...you make grad school sound scary.
I'm scared about "growing up," but excited too. I want to have adventures and see the world and do the things I want to do, intrepid Beagle in tow.
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Aw, geez...you make grad school sound scary.![]()
I'm scared about "growing up," but excited too. I want to have adventures and see the world and do the things I want to do, intrepid Beagle in tow.I still feel woefully unprepared, though, like I have twenty years of knowledge to cram into my head and only two years to do it.
Graduate school is not scary, it does require work, though. Of course, your path through graduate school will probably be quite different compared to mine. Taking the GRE is not really fun but at least you only have to do it once. It is like the SAT.
I would imagine many people are intimidated by starting out in the world when they are finishing school.
I love beagles. They are adorable. I have wanted to get a dog, but with my work schedule, there is not really any way to take care of one.
Maybe someday....
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Graduate school is not scary, it does require work, though. Of course, your path through graduate school will probably be quite different compared to mine. Taking the GRE is not really fun but at least you only have to do it once. It is like the SAT.
I would imagine many people are intimidated by starting out in the world when they are finishing school.
I love beagles. They are adorable. I have wanted to get a dog, but with my work schedule, there is not really any way to take care of one.Maybe someday....
I'm hoping that I'll be able to skip the GRE entirely and only apply to schools that don't require it for admission. Doesn't look like it will happen that way, but it's a nice fantasy to have.

Beagles are the greatest, especially mine.
I may be slightly biased, though. I finally get to go home on Saturday for spring break and see him again. I want to take him with me when I head off to parts unknown for grad school, but, like you said, it's a lot of work and add a job on top of that and there's precious little time for him. 
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I'm hoping that I'll be able to skip the GRE entirely and only apply to schools that don't require it for admission. Doesn't look like it will happen that way, but it's a nice fantasy to have.
Beagles are the greatest, especially mine.I may be slightly biased, though. I finally get to go home on Saturday for spring break and see him again. I want to take him with me when I head off to parts unknown for grad school, but, like you said, it's a lot of work and add a job on top of that and there's precious little time for him.
That would be neat-o if you could skip the GRE. It would save you whatever the registration fee is as well as the aggravation of taking the test and waiting for the results.
I got sucked into watching some of the Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show on TV a little while ago. It was neat to see all the different types of dogs. The beagle they had there was very cool.
What is your dog's name?
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That would be neat-o if you could skip the GRE. It would save you whatever the registration fee is as well as the aggravation of taking the test and waiting for the results.
I got sucked into watching some of the Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show on TV a little while ago. It was neat to see all the different types of dogs. The beagle they had there was very cool.What is your dog's name?
Ignoring for the moment what it's going to cost to pay for the actual program, it looks like just applying to grad school is going to be an expensive process - test fees, application fees, postage, etc, etc, on and on. Sheesh! Girl can't get a break!

His official snooty name is Little Pocket Rocket - which, I know, sounds like a euphamism for something dirty, but that didn't occur to us at the time. *sigh* We just call him Rocky (or Lovey or Porky or any other variation). He's my fat hound dog.

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Ignoring for the moment what it's going to cost to pay for the actual program, it looks like just applying to grad school is going to be an expensive process - test fees, application fees, postage, etc, etc, on and on. Sheesh! Girl can't get a break!
His official snooty name is Little Pocket Rocket - which, I know, sounds like a euphamism for something dirty, but that didn't occur to us at the time. *sigh* We just call him Rocky (or Lovey or Porky or any other variation). He's my fat hound dog.
True, there are "hidden" expenses like you mentioned. Like I have said before, I do not know how graduate programs in English work, but perhaps you can be paid a stipend by the department and in exchange you end up teaching classes. The English department where I went to graduate school had money to fund a certain number of graduate students, though, how many, I am uncertain.
Interesting name for your dog. He sounds like a fun dog, though. May I ask where that name came from? I understand where your screen name came from now, though.
I was kind of wondering about that.
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True, there are "hidden" expenses like you mentioned. Like I have said before, I do not know how graduate programs in English work, but perhaps you can be paid a stipend by the department and in exchange you end up teaching classes. The English department where I went to graduate school had money to fund a certain number of graduate students, though, how many, I am uncertain.
Interesting name for your dog. He sounds like a fun dog, though. May I ask where that name came from? I understand where your screen name came from now, though.I was kind of wondering about that.
Some of the programs offer fellowships tha include 100% tuition waiver and a stipend. Others do like you mentioned, stipends and waivers of a certain amount for teaching. And others offer absolutely nothing at all. I'm planning to apply to a lot of schools that have a history of being generous with their money. No doubt the competition is more intense, but it's worth a shot at least.
His daddy's name was Rock and his mom's name was Little Pocket Smile, so we kind of combined the two. He's supposedly got good blood lines, so we could have done AKC showing and such with him (hence the big name), but in the end he just became a pet. I think he's happier that way, he's a really mellow, low-key guy. He doesn't have the diva attitude a lot of show dogs do. (On a side note, a variant of fathounddawg is the name of my site, too [ www.fathounddog.com].)
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Some of the programs offer fellowships tha include 100% tuition waiver and a stipend. Others do like you mentioned, stipends and waivers of a certain amount for teaching. And others offer absolutely nothing at all. I'm planning to apply to a lot of schools that have a history of being generous with their money. No doubt the competition is more intense, but it's worth a shot at least.
His daddy's name was Rock and his mom's name was Little Pocket Smile, so we kind of combined the two. He's supposedly got good blood lines, so we could have done AKC showing and such with him (hence the big name), but in the end he just became a pet. I think he's happier that way, he's a really mellow, low-key guy. He doesn't have the diva attitude a lot of show dogs do. (On a side note, a variant of fathounddawg is the name of my site, too [ www.fathounddog.com].)
Sounds like a good plan. I hope you find something that works for you.
Never know till you try, right? 
Interesting story behind this dog's name. Kind of like those race horses. I like mellow types of dogs, not the hyper, jump all over you, chase after everything types. I like dogs more like me; sitting around, relaxing.

I checked out your website. Very nice photos. You have a very nice eye.

Happy Birthday!
Now go do something special!
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Sounds like a good plan. I hope you find something that works for you.Never know till you try, right?
Interesting story behind this dog's name. Kind of like those race horses. I like mellow types of dogs, not the hyper, jump all over you, chase after everything types. I like dogs more like me; sitting around, relaxing.
I checked out your website. Very nice photos. You have a very nice eye.
Happy Birthday!Now go do something special!
Rocky is definitely not a jump all around hyper sort of dog. He's a napper.
He doesn't even howl, which is really rare for Beagles. We think the breeder might have tricked us, because he looks like he's got Basset in him (we call him a Bagle instead of a Beagle.
) But he's just the biggest love ever. Geez, talking about him makes me miss him so much! lolThank you for the compliment.
I love it, my camera is my baby. Rocky thanks you too, since he's my muse a lot of the time. Happy birthday back atcha!!!
Although I still have 49 minutes here.
Got any big plans for the day?
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Rocky is definitely not a jump all around hyper sort of dog. He's a napper.He doesn't even howl, which is really rare for Beagles. We think the breeder might have tricked us, because he looks like he's got Basset in him (we call him a Bagle instead of a Beagle.
) But he's just the biggest love ever. Geez, talking about him makes me miss him so much! lol
Thank you for the compliment.I love it, my camera is my baby. Rocky thanks you too, since he's my muse a lot of the time.
Happy birthday back atcha!!!Although I still have 49 minutes here.
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Got any big plans for the day?
Sounds like my kind of dog. Someone I knew in college had a really sweet dog. I do not know what kind of dog he was but he was rather old. He moved very slowly and occassionally would bump into things but he was so sweet. He would move out of your way and nuzzle your leg or the palm of your hand. He has probably passed on by now.
But, I know he was well loved. No big plans. I have to go out of town this weekend for work, so no plans there either. I am not incredibly big on celebrating my birthday. How about you?
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Sounds like my kind of dog. Someone I knew in college had a really sweet dog. I do not know what kind of dog he was but he was rather old. He moved very slowly and occassionally would bump into things but he was so sweet. He would move out of your way and nuzzle your leg or the palm of your hand. He has probably passed on by now.But, I know he was well loved.
No big plans. I have to go out of town this weekend for work, so no plans there either. I am not incredibly big on celebrating my birthday. How about you?
We had a second Beagle for a while, Cocoa. He was an old man when we had him (11 or 12, I think) and that was three or four years ago now. He was a doll. I hope he's still running around somewhere, but you're right - even if he's not, he was loved and I'm glad for that.
Tonight I have tickets for Wicked which is in town for a few weeks on its Broadway tour, so that should be a lot of fun. Then Saturday I get to go home for spring break, which is a gift in itself.

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We had a second Beagle for a while, Cocoa. He was an old man when we had him (11 or 12, I think) and that was three or four years ago now. He was a doll. I hope he's still running around somewhere, but you're right - even if he's not, he was loved and I'm glad for that.
Tonight I have tickets for Wicked which is in town for a few weeks on its Broadway tour, so that should be a lot of fun. Then Saturday I get to go home for spring break, which is a gift in itself.
Why did your family part with Cocoa? I never really had any pets growing up. I think my parents had their hands full with me!
Someday I would love to get a dog, though. I love dogs.Sounds like a plan. I hope you have a good time at the show. I have never heard of that one before, but then again, I do not really keep up with Broadway shows. I assume you are driving back to New Jersey. When I lived in PA, I was always amazed at just how WIDE the state really is. Generally people talk about how big Texas is and it is a big state but driving across PA is underrated as far as long drives go.
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Why did your family part with Cocoa? I never really had any pets growing up. I think my parents had their hands full with me!Someday I would love to get a dog, though. I love dogs.
Sounds like a plan. I hope you have a good time at the show. I have never heard of that one before, but then again, I do not really keep up with Broadway shows. I assume you are driving back to New Jersey. When I lived in PA, I was always amazed at just how WIDE the state really is. Generally people talk about how big Texas is and it is a big state but driving across PA is underrated as far as long drives go.
Cocoa had this problem with pissing all over the house. I don't know if he felt the need to mark everything or what, but no matter how much he got walked he'd still do it. We have hardwood floors in my house and when they started to get damaged my dad flipped out and Cocoa left. But, the good news is, the woman who fostered him before we adopted him leapt at the chance to take him back so he moved with her out to Utah, where I think she still lives. He was a really neat little dog - he had the funniest old man howl - just couldn't stop peeing in the house.
Rocky never really warmed up to him, either. They didn't fight or anything and they'd play a lot, but I always had the feeling the Rocky was waiting for him to leave.
Silly dogs.PA is a ridiculously wide state, I agree. I live as far west as you can be and still be in NJ and it still takes about 6 hours to get home, with good traffic and weather and all. We drive to Michigan every year, too, and it seriously feels like as soon as you get through PA, the trip might as well be over.
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Rocky never really warmed up to him, either. They didn't fight or anything and they'd play a lot, but I always had the feeling the Rocky was waiting for him to leave.Silly dogs.
PA is a ridiculously wide state, I agree. I live as far west as you can be and still be in NJ and it still takes about 6 hours to get home, with good traffic and weather and all. We drive to Michigan every year, too, and it seriously feels like as soon as you get through PA, the trip might as well be over.
Hm. Sounds like Cocoa had a little problem with incontinence in his later years. :\
No kidding. Where in Michigan do you go? Do you have family there? I grew up in Michigan.
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I posted to this thread, but this is a whole freakin' bulletin board.
Who knew this thread would take off like this!
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Hm. Sounds like Cocoa had a little problem with incontinence in his later years. :\
No kidding. Where in Michigan do you go? Do you have family there? I grew up in Michigan.
I don't think Cocoa was incontinent...I think it was a conscious decision. Only he knows why!

Geez, the similarities continue!
I have a lot of family in Michigan. My mom grew up in Detroit and her sister still lives in the area and my dad grew up in Kalamazoo and his mom and sister still like there and his brother is nearby. Plus we have a cottage on a lake up north that we go to every summer. So, yeah...I'm very attached to the state of Michigan. 
And...happy conclusion to your birthday.
I hope it was wonderful! Try to have some fun this weekend, don't work too hard! 
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Geez, the similarities continue!I have a lot of family in Michigan. My mom grew up in Detroit and her sister still lives in the area and my dad grew up in Kalamazoo and his mom and sister still like there and his brother is nearby. Plus we have a cottage on a lake up north that we go to every summer. So, yeah...I'm very attached to the state of Michigan.
And...happy conclusion to your birthday.I hope it was wonderful! Try to have some fun this weekend, don't work too hard!
Kalamazoo.
When I was in high school, a guy in my chemistry class had a button on his backpack that said "Yes, there really is a Kalamazoo". It is am amusing name for a town. Hell, Michigan is another one. So funny.
I grew up in East Lansing. Go State!
Please tell me you are not a U of M fan. :\I hope you had a good time at the show and whatnot yesterday.
How does it feel to be a year older? I hope you have a fun Spring Break too. Enjoy them now. When you finish school, there is no such thing anymore.
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Kalamazoo.When I was in high school, a guy in my chemistry class had a button on his backpack that said "Yes, there really is a Kalamazoo". It is am amusing name for a town. Hell, Michigan is another one. So funny.
I grew up in East Lansing. Go State!
Please tell me you are not a U of M fan. :\
I hope you had a good time at the show and whatnot yesterday.How does it feel to be a year older? I hope you have a fun Spring Break too. Enjoy them now. When you finish school, there is no such thing anymore.
Yeah, the state is full of goofy names for things. Not that PA (or NJ, for that matter) aren't!
No, not a U of M fan. I suppose I haven't taken sides, my family is pretty clearly divided.
I am, however, considering U of M for grad school. Forgive me!The show was AMAZING. I laughed, I cried, I clapped, I sang. Just extraordinary. It was a really wonderful night. Nice to celebrate my 21st without the obligatory vomiting and hangover.

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No, not a U of M fan. I suppose I haven't taken sides, my family is pretty clearly divided.I am, however, considering U of M for grad school. Forgive me!
The show was AMAZING. I laughed, I cried, I clapped, I sang. Just extraordinary. It was a really wonderful night. Nice to celebrate my 21st without the obligatory vomiting and hangover.
My age is catching up with me, though. This morning I got up and my old bones creaked.Not long now and they'll have to put me in a home!
Well, I cannot tell you where to go to school (U of M is evil...)
Of course, I grew up near MSU and my father used to teach there (retired now), so I have been a fan for as long as I can remember.I am glad the show was good.
Always a plus when something lives up to expectations. And I am glad you did not partake in those silly "rites of passage" that cause the unecessary deaths of so many 21 year olds.Hm. No complaining about your age since I am older than you. You can only complain about your age to people younger than you.
It is kind of funny, though, how there are some things that I just cannot physically do anymore that I could easily so just a few years ago.
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Well, I cannot tell you where to go to school (U of M is evil...)Of course, I grew up near MSU and my father used to teach there (retired now), so I have been a fan for as long as I can remember.
I am glad the show was good.Always a plus when something lives up to expectations. And I am glad you did not partake in those silly "rites of passage" that cause the unecessary deaths of so many 21 year olds.
Hm. No complaining about your age since I am older than you. You can only complain about your age to people younger than you.It is kind of funny, though, how there are some things that I just cannot physically do anymore that I could easily so just a few years ago.
Hey, there's another one - my grandfather used to teach at Western Michigan U.
Chin up...I'm sure there's lots of other neat stuff that comes with growing older. Like wisdom - or at least a better understanding of how much you don't know.
Plus getting to use words like "whippersnapper." 
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Chin up...I'm sure there's lots of other neat stuff that comes with growing older. Like wisdom - or at least a better understanding of how much you don't know.Plus getting to use words like "whippersnapper."
Want to get even stranger? My father did part of his graduate studies at Western Michigan. Freaky!
Well, I am not that old yet.
Heck, I am only in my 20's. I just like to complain like I just turned 40.
What am I going to do when I actually do turn 40?! 
Have a nice holiday.
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Want to get even stranger? My father did part of his graduate studies at Western Michigan. Freaky!
Well, I am not that old yet.Heck, I am only in my 20's. I just like to complain like I just turned 40.
What am I going to do when I actually do turn 40?!
Have a nice holiday.
Whoa. That is freaky! Next I'll drop a name and you'll say, "oh yeah, I went to high school with that person."

It's like the line from When Harry Met Sally:
"I'm going to be 40!"
"...in 8 years."

Now that I've passed the halfway-to-40 point, do I get special complaining rights? Can I wax poetic to younger people about the good ol' days? And how I had to trudge six miles through the snow to get to class every day...with wild dogs chasing me...

I definitely will have a nice holiday. Get to see my family and my dog and my friends and bust out of the "desperately poor college student" lifestyle for a little while.
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It's like the line from When Harry Met Sally:
"I'm going to be 40!"
"...in 8 years."
Now that I've passed the halfway-to-40 point, do I get special complaining rights? Can I wax poetic to younger people about the good ol' days? And how I had to trudge six miles through the snow to get to class every day...with wild dogs chasing me...
I definitely will have a nice holiday. Get to see my family and my dog and my friends and bust out of the "desperately poor college student" lifestyle for a little while.Good stuff!
I love that movie. It is one of my favorites. In fact, I think I have it on DVD as well.

"I love you."
"How do you expect me to respond to this?"
Not yet. I think to obtain the special complaining rights, you have to pass 30.
Yes, I remember visiting my family when I was in college and taking the opportunity to stuff myself silly.
Hard to pass up large amounts of food.
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I love that movie. It is one of my favorites. In fact, I think I have it on DVD as well.
"I love you."
"How do you expect me to respond to this?"
Not yet. I think to obtain the special complaining rights, you have to pass 30.
Yes, I remember visiting my family when I was in college and taking the opportunity to stuff myself silly.Hard to pass up large amounts of food.
It's a great movie. I'm a big Billy Crystal fan, shame you don't see him around much anymore.
Hm. Well, until I hit 30 I suppose I can complain about the fact that I'm not old enough to complain yet.

Sadly, we're (still) in the middle of re-doing our kitchen. (My dad is a he-man and doing it himself.) Which means I won't get many home-cooked meals.
There's plenty of good restaurants around, and since I don't have to pay for any of it I can actually go to some. Honestly, as long as I get my mom's special better-than-sex chocolate birthday cake, I'm set. 
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Sadly, we're (still) in the middle of re-doing our kitchen. (My dad is a he-man and doing it himself.) Which means I won't get many home-cooked meals.There's plenty of good restaurants around, and since I don't have to pay for any of it I can actually go to some. Honestly, as long as I get my mom's special better-than-sex chocolate birthday cake, I'm set.
Cool. I bet the kitchen will be very nice when it is completed.
I love to cook so a nice kitchen is always a welcome thing. Chocolate cake, eh? I have a pretty good recipe for chocolate cake that I have not made in a long time. I hope it is everything you are hoping for it to be.
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Cool. I bet the kitchen will be very nice when it is completed.I love to cook so a nice kitchen is always a welcome thing. Chocolate cake, eh? I have a pretty good recipe for chocolate cake that I have not made in a long time. I hope it is everything you are hoping for it to be.
I love to cook, too. I miss doing it when I'm out here - no kitchen in my dorm suite.
I miss it at home, too, nowadays. lolWhat's your favorite thing to make?
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I love to cook, too. I miss doing it when I'm out here - no kitchen in my dorm suite.I miss it at home, too, nowadays. lol
What's your favorite thing to make?
I do not know. I like making lots of things. I particularly like to bake. I have this white chocolate cookie recipe I really like. I have a pretty good brownie recipe too.
How about you?
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I do not know. I like making lots of things. I particularly like to bake. I have this white chocolate cookie recipe I really like. I have a pretty good brownie recipe too.
How about you?
I like to bake, too. My family has sugar cookie and snickerdoodle recipes that have been passed down for generations and are delicious, plus my mom's killer chocolate cake recipe, and a lot of others.
My favorite is pancakes, though.
At risk of sounding overly corny, making pancakes make me feel at home. I guess I have a lot of fond memories associated with pancake mornings.--------------------
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I like to bake, too. My family has sugar cookie and snickerdoodle recipes that have been passed down for generations and are delicious, plus my mom's killer chocolate cake recipe, and a lot of others.
My favorite is pancakes, though.At risk of sounding overly corny, making pancakes make me feel at home. I guess I have a lot of fond memories associated with pancake mornings.
Pancakes are good, though I rarely get them.
I have a pretty good recipe for them, but nothing special. I signed up to take some cooking classes so hopefully I can improve upon some of my skills.
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If I wear leather will you wear a gun belt all sexy-like?
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Pancakes are good, though I rarely get them.I have a pretty good recipe for them, but nothing special. I signed up to take some cooking classes so hopefully I can improve upon some of my skills.
Oh, that's so cool! I am ridiculously jealous.
I went through a period last year when I was really hating my school and dreaming about dropping out and going to culinary school instead...Obviously I didn't, but I still think it would be amazing!
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hee hee
Just kidding!
Job hunting sucks!