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Which character of firefly do you most relate to?

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Thursday, March 2, 2006 5:08 AM

I my self seem to relate mostly to Simon...
Im very protective over my little sister and brother


The court of this obsession, is abstracted from possession which when the worlds of outside in fall.

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Thursday, March 2, 2006 6:30 AM

you are not very protective of me but u bro i agre.




um... i think i mostly relate to river... im a younger sister... im a bit troblued like river (not government wises buty yeah)

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Thursday, March 2, 2006 6:42 AM

Probably Simon. Really smart, blubbering idiot around girls, adores Kaylee... yeah that sounds about right.

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Thursday, March 2, 2006 7:19 AM

kaylee( I'm the shy sweet type) plus I don't like guns.

I'm in the world not of it.

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Thursday, March 2, 2006 7:24 AM

Yess Natti ok maybe im mean but you know if any one tryed to hurt you id be more grr to them and less arge to you.....
I also am smart in a pychotic way not like im crazzy i just dont think like normal people
hmmmm River Natti I thought you were more of a kaylee specualy with your (Vrookman)

The court of this obsession, is abstracted from possession which when the worlds of outside in fall.

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Thursday, March 2, 2006 3:52 PM

I strongly identify with Book.

It's rather odd, actually.

I did things in the Gulf War (first one) I am not at all proud of and that took me many years to come to terms with.

I spent several years in a monastery, though I never quite become a monk.

I also traveled for a time as a missionary in the pacific (as part of my journey of atonement), often taking passage on small run down trading ships. I was suspected of "being more then just a preacher" on more then one occasion. Sadly, the crews of these ships never came anywhere close to the crew of Serenity in any way.

However, I do not have an AA gun in my backyard and I have no reason to think the NSA is coming to kill me any time soon.

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Thursday, March 2, 2006 3:56 PM

Simon, of course. That way I can Love River the most. :)


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Thursday, March 2, 2006 3:59 PM

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Thursday, March 2, 2006 4:01 PM

I relate to Jayne, Zoe, River, and Mal. in that order.
I am the attack dog. No one crosses me or my friends because they know that to do so means pain, and pain is scary. I am extremely loyal to said friends. Almost to a fault, but my loyalty actually has cost me a relationship. River beats out Mal mainly because I talk to myself alot and tend to do crazy things that no one sees a reason but myself. But when needs be I can really take charge. Sadly. and against my will. Responsibility...don't want it.

Maybe this is why I love it so much. I see so much of myself in these people, and they have human failures, just like me. They ain't perfect, and that is perfectly fine by me.

You know, they tell ya to never hit a man with a closed fist, but it is, on occasion, hilarious.

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Thursday, March 2, 2006 4:13 PM


Mal, even though I'm a woman. I own my own business and run my own life and I'm responsible for my Mom's health and well being and also all the folks who work at and for my business. It's a daily struggle just like life on Serenity and I have a real appreciation of Mal's constant dilemmas regarding what's right for the whole and taking care of the day to day business of money in pockets and food on the table.

I sometimes make decisions that no one else WILL make...don't always like it, but I've become capable of it.

" You hold. Hold til I get back." Mal

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Thursday, March 2, 2006 4:22 PM

Inara.

It's the distance within the closeness. She loves the crew and has a great deal of tenderness for the world at large, she's introverted with an adventurous side, but at the same time she needs that space to retreat and is secretive about her choices.

Next up Mal. Because he's a vast sea of everything, lots of different value systems and codes of behavior that contradict each other.

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Thursday, March 2, 2006 4:34 PM

I would have to say Book. I don't have any direct ex-military experience but I have been lead in a new direction after finding serenity in my life. Yeah, so Book it is.

That being said, I saw the movie first so I didn't really know anything about him. Now that I've seen the whole series, if I were Joss, I wouldn't have killed him in the movie.

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Thursday, March 2, 2006 4:38 PM

Mal.

I always have a contingency plan, but I'm no coward when I'm cornered. I always try to make my position appear weaker than it actually is, but there's always a steel support underneath.
I'm usually the first one into any situation, even when I'm not supposed to be leading.
I don't see any dishonor in living to fight another day. Good with guns, but no experience with grenades, or funny hats, so I'm not Jayne.

I'm surprised that so many people identify with the doctor. He always seemed like a prig. Girls like him, but I wouldnt want to be him.

Yep. Have to go with the Cap'n. Mal's just as cunning in his own way.

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Thursday, March 2, 2006 4:44 PM

WASH, definitely. He's a jokester and always has a clever remark ready for any situation. He has a beautiful wife who's more badass than he is, he plays with toys, and is always ready to look on the logical and/or bright side of any situation.


I think I swallowed a bug...

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Thursday, March 2, 2006 4:49 PM

Niska.

I've got this thing about john lennon specs and full-length button-suit jackets. I'm interested in torture methods, like to employ light-relief blundering henchmen, and I've got a real penchant for comedy german accents.

We're both into pretentious existential claptrap and there's nothing I enjoy more than trying out some new pain device while speaking infuriatingly slowly and finishing every sentence with "yes?"

It's really odd how the parallels pile up.

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Thursday, March 2, 2006 4:53 PM

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Originally posted by aztechrome:
I'm surprised that so many people identify with the doctor. He always seemed like a prig.


There's more to Simon than his arrogance, it's the other things I identify with, although I guess I can be a little arrogant at times. I've got a little bit of the others in me as well. I'd probably order them as Simon, Jayne, Kaylee, Wash, Mal, Zoe, Book.

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Thursday, March 2, 2006 5:04 PM

That's just my gut reaction to the guy.
Besides! He's my competition for Kaylee! Why should i like him?

Seriously though, the cast wouldn't be complete without Simon. Simon's endearingly awkward with girls, and has great compassion, and intelligence to boot. Still he's just too stuffy. (He's supposed to be, i know)

So, you know, if it's going to be Mal or Simon.

I gotta follow Mal.

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Thursday, March 2, 2006 5:09 PM

Wash. I'm all about the snark. Also the sex with warior women. Mostly the snark though.

David

"A lot of people are asking me, you know, what exactly is Firefly? It's a tv show you morons!" - Joss Whedon

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Thursday, March 2, 2006 5:18 PM

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Originally posted by RiveR6213:

River. No doubt in my mind regarding that.



Hey River! Nice to find you in this thread. No doubt in my mind regarding that, either. :)


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Thursday, March 2, 2006 5:33 PM

I have the most in common with River but I don't really relate to her. Probably because she's usually either raving mad or beating people up, both of which are fun to watch but not things I do. Not often anyway. I hope we get to see a slightly saner River someday!

I'd say I relate to Mal more. He manages to live his own way in a limiting world.

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Thursday, March 2, 2006 9:50 PM

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Originally posted by VTbrowncoat:
I strongly identify with Book.
It's rather odd, actually.
...



!!!

Sorry, but the parallels there are so gorram striking. What's odd is just how many similarities there are...

Anyway, for me, I strongly, strongly identify with Book; that's typically the wording I'd use whenever explaining why he was my favorite character. But, I identify more with his present-day persona.

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No, I don't mean I'm dead.



I mean that I try much as I can to let my religion and faith guide my life, and inasmuch as I've been able to do that, it's made my life that much better, much fuller--even though I'm far from perfect, and I suspect I still have a lot of reckoning left to do. Plus that, most of my close friends may not share in my beliefs quite precisely, but that doesn't prevent me from settin' sail with them, so to speak.

Throughout the series, I found that Book was typically the one who acted the closest to how I would in any given situation--save for the ones where fighting was involved.

Oh, right, and Ron Glass is all manner of awesome. KF



~KF

Lord, I'm walking your way. Let me in, for my feet are sore, my clothes are ragged.
Look in my eyes, Lord, and my sins will play out on them as on a screen. Read them all.
Forgive what you can and send me on my path. I will walk on until you bid me rest.

~Haven Prayer

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Thursday, March 2, 2006 10:03 PM

Even though I'm a girl, I indentify most with Wash. I am always the comic relief in life. And (although I try really hard to make sure it doesn't happen) the comments will come at a time when, perhaps, is innapropriate. ( I can't help it!) After Wash, I though I would identify with Kaylee. I love being cheerful! Then Mal... can't think of any specific example I just have the feeling that I am.

Somedays It's not even worth chewing through the restraints...

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Thursday, March 2, 2006 10:18 PM

I'm definitely a Wash...

"It's not an excuse, it's objective assessment, I can't help that it stays relevant" Wash "Heart of Gold"

...that's totally me lol

Plus if I was piloting a ship, I would totally cover my display with plastic dinosaurs lol.

"This is a fertile land and we will thrive, we will claim this land and we will call it, this land. I think we should we should call it your grave. Ah, curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal. Haha, mine is an evil laugh, now die!"

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Saturday, March 4, 2006 5:32 AM

aztechrome wrote:
I'm surprised that so many people identify with the doctor. He always seemed like a prig. Girls like him, but I wouldnt want to be him.

you are right alot of girls like Sean Maher....hot Maher....

but i like the charactor of Simon... he is what i see as the perfect well semi perfect product of aliance teachings and yet he defies all that he is to prove a point and to protect River. He is akward and out of place but he belongs there in that inbetween.... thats why i relate most to him....

But he is a HOT MAHER


The court of this obsession, is abstracted from possession which when the worlds of outside in fall.

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Saturday, March 4, 2006 5:36 PM

What a fantastic question!

I can see why a lot of people would identify with Simon (although he is a priss, ain't he?), I think his character grew up in a world most like our society now. Very few of us are actually smuggling cattle orny have a real danger of getting shot before breakfast. I often feel like my emotional responses would be similar to Simon's if I was suddenly forced into such a violent world. I like to see the change in him throughout the series.

However, I'd like to think that I would be able to ACT more like Zoe. I think in my real life my only real talent lies in identifying what needs to be done to get the job finsihed and immedietly committing to it and taking action.

But I've never had to shoot a man.

yet.

When you can't do that...we'll you know the rest.

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Saturday, March 4, 2006 5:51 PM

Oh jeez. Probably Inara.

I love and deeply care for the people that make up my surrogate family but there is still the distance between us that I keep in order to protect myself. it keeps me from getting hurt by any of them, espically the one guy that I have a total Mal-Inara realationship with. And I have my Kaylee too, the rock that keeps me from drifting too far away.


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Jayne! Try not to steal too much of their shit.

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Saturday, March 4, 2006 8:29 PM

Probably Wash/ Simon. I tend towards the easygoing spectrum, and you can always tell the gravity of a situation if I'm not cracking jokes. (Though I look considerably less dashing in Hawaiian shirts :)

Also identify alot with Simon, for his excellent taste in women if nothing else. I like his dedication to River, too. Being the oldest in my family, I totally get that he'd go to any length to keep his sister safe.

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Saturday, March 4, 2006 10:27 PM

A little of Simon, especially this past week. For years I've been the good little faithful employee at my job, but this past week when they started to micromanage me, etc., I realized that I didn't have a problem questioning them and that there are other people I'd rather be loyal to. (And I love my sister very much, even though sometimes she makes me crazy.)

That being said, I'm a little of a Zoe/Wash combo, too, odd as that sounds. I'm fiercely loyal to those who I think have earned it, but every once in a while I just have to question what's going on around me. "Can we maybe vote on the whole murdering people issue?"

I WANT to be Wash and fly a spaceship! With dinosaurs on the dash.

And I want Mal to be my captain!

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Sunday, March 5, 2006 5:18 AM

Howdy y'all. Just thought I'd add my two cents. I guess I mostly relate to Mal with a bit of Simon.

I understand how it feels to lose all faith at times and just not give a good gorram about anyone. Recently my mom and stepfather split after 15 years of marriage. I wasn't close to him, but seeing how badly my mother reacted to it and just remembering the break up of my original parents really kind of disheartened me. Since then, I've only had a few close friends whom I trust and I work to keep that relationship strong with them. Plus, I have a little sister who I am very protective of, and just like River, she makes me look like an 'idiot child' because she's a lot more mature about somethings than I am.

Anyways, just thought I'd send that out into the 'Verse. Keep flying y'all.

Burn the land and boil the sea...You can't take the sky from me.

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Sunday, March 5, 2006 5:48 AM

I relate to Inara the most.

Because I also struggle with the ever torturing emotions of harboring a deep love... for Captain Mal Reynolds.



Okay, yea, leave it to me to take a serious thread and ruin it. But seriously, I relate most to River. I think anyone can relate to the concept of being an outsider or not fitting in, during at least one point of their life.

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Sunday, March 5, 2006 5:53 AM

I know everyone's gonna roll their eyes and sigh, but I really am like Jayne in many ways.

- I've never been in the military, but most people who know me would swear that I walk the walk.

- God help anyone who messes with my people, though I feel quite free to tease/annoy/advise them at all times.

- I'm usually the one who says what everyone's thinking, but no one wants to say or hear. And I'm usually right, much to everyone's dismay.

- I honestly HAVE mourned the lack of the proper weaponry at hand.

- I snark. Loudly and often.

- A lot of people would swear that I don't have a heart (me included), but see that "God help anyone who messes with my people" line above.

- I'm usually the comic relief, but not in the obvious way. I do crack jokes like Wash, but I more tend to say practical, everyday stuff in such a deadpan way that everyone cracks up anyway.

- I'm not always the muscle of the group, but I am the one people ask for strategy, tactics, and snipering.

- When involved in "missions" (I'm mainly talking laser tag, paintballing, and war games here), I am always the unpredictable element. My brother knew better than to completely trust me, especially with crucial information regarding location and exactly WHO was in charge. Heh. I'd never outright BETRAY him, but I would certainly sway the situation until it works out best for ME.

I could go on, but I think you're all probably ready to shoot me by now. *snerk*

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Sunday, March 5, 2006 8:43 AM

Thats awsome

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GutterBall wrote:I know everyone's gonna roll their eyes and sigh, but I really am like Jayne in many ways.


not a usual Guy to Relate to. Its cool to know some muscle men are still out there....



The court of this obsession, is abstracted from possession which when the worlds of outside in fall.

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Sunday, March 5, 2006 11:44 AM

I most relate to Kaylee - I like people around me to be happy - and I care deeply about others (maybe a bit too much!)

But may absolute favourite character is JAYNE!!!
He's so funny - and a think underneath all that bluff and bravado beats a good heart ....... He's such a Mama'a boy, but I think his Mama raised him right ...... I love that whole protective side to him - comes out particularly when it comes to the women on Serenity, especially Kaylee (in the original pilot). Plus, of course, I think he's really fit!!! *sigh*

So, I relate to Kaylee, but I fancy Jayne!!!

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Sunday, March 5, 2006 3:50 PM

River is the one that i relate too the most.........................just because you actually get too feel for her, and be brought in to her mind.
i would die to be like her even if it means being crazy

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Sunday, March 5, 2006 6:31 PM

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Riverrules wrote:
Sunday, March 05, 2006 05:50
River is the one that i relate too the most.........................just because you actually get too feel for her, and be brought in to her mind.
i would die to be like her even if it means being crazy



thats a scarry thought


The court of this obsession, is abstracted from possession which when the worlds of outside in fall.

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Sunday, March 5, 2006 6:55 PM

I tend to relate the most to River. Most people that I'm aware of (aka. the ones I don't pay much attention to) think that I am absolutely insane. I don't think many of my friends are to sure of me either.


I do a lot of things without being quite aware of them, I space out a lot, and I say things that make no sense and see things that aren't there.




Beyond that, I relate the most to Wash (and, according to my sig., Mal... Well, I do take control of situations when I feel they need it... ). I always have a witty retort in one form or another at the tip of my tongue, and I make people (like LadyKnight ) laugh until their sides feel like they're about to split.





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Sunday, March 5, 2006 7:24 PM

I'm Simon in the sense that I am awkward. I'm also River, because I say things that don't make sense and aren't relevant to the conversation unless properly analyzed and taken as foreshadowing of the days to come.

All in all, I consider myself the third Tam sibling.

I think a little chaos is in order.

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Monday, March 6, 2006 2:52 AM

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Originally posted by jockockeyock:
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GutterBall wrote:I know everyone's gonna roll their eyes and sigh, but I really am like Jayne in many ways.

not a usual Guy to Relate to. Its cool to know some muscle men are still out there....


Heh, but I'm not a man. I just tend to think like one under pressure.

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Monday, March 6, 2006 3:22 AM

Mal,

I’m very independent, and HATE government meddling into the private affaires of folk.

Served my time, and did my part for God and country.

Love my friends & employees and am fiercely loyal to them. They know they can depend on me.

A never quit, failure is not an option.

I love to do my own thing and am drawn to people who have a desire do something with themselves, regardless of education or social graces.

Am a bit of an old fashion chivalrous fool. Yeah, rushing in where Angles fear to tread.

Won’t ask anyone to do something that I’ve not already demonstrated I’d do myself.

Not always righ,t but dam sure can act with conviction regardless. = )

Will usually do the right thing.

Have hung my own ass on the line for my friends.

Yeah… I can identify with the Captain.


Mal: Jayne, just how many weapons you plan on taking? You only got the two arms.
Jayne: I just get excitable as to choice. Like to keep my options open.
Mal: I don’t plan on any shooting taking place during this job.
Jayne: Yeah, well what you plan and what takes place ain’t ever exactly been similar.
Mal: No grenades.

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Saturday, May 27, 2006 5:24 AM

Kaylee reminds me of the person I was when I was a teenager/college student. I was SO much like her, always loved everyone, always optimistic, sweet, etc.

Then, along the line, life happened and a whole lot of goh se piled up, I experienced some tragedies and losses, etc., and I became a lot like Zoe. Reticent. Sarcastic. Very cynical. Tough.

Then there's JAYNE. I don't know if I could say I relate to his lifestyle or his background (I am female, don't own guns, and have had a fair amount of schoolin'), but oddly enough, I find that, in any given episode, Jayne always says what I'm thinking, or does what I would have done if I were on the ship. I don't know if I should admit that! But it's true. And he lives with such gusto - I love that.


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Saturday, May 27, 2006 6:32 AM

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Originally posted by AzBrowncoat:
I relate to Jayne, Zoe, River, and Mal. in that order.
I am the attack dog. No one crosses me or my friends because they know that to do so means pain, and pain is scary. I am extremely loyal to said friends. Almost to a fault, but my loyalty actually has cost me a relationship. River beats out Mal mainly because I talk to myself alot and tend to do crazy things that no one sees a reason but myself. But when needs be I can really take charge. Sadly. and against my will. Responsibility...don't want it.

Maybe this is why I love it so much. I see so much of myself in these people, and they have human failures, just like me. They ain't perfect, and that is perfectly fine by me.

You know, they tell ya to never hit a man with a closed fist, but it is, on occasion, hilarious.



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Wednesday, July 25, 2007 1:43 PM

I relate mostly to Simon as well. Work, the general stuffiness, the bashfulness. Yeah, I'm mostly Simon :P

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Wednesday, July 25, 2007 1:49 PM

I don't think I've responded on this thread - if I have I missed it so...

Kaylee! The moment I 'met' her in the cargo hold on Serenity I knew we were kindred spirits. She dares to be friendly, opomistic and find the best in people and situations which is what i try to dare to do everyday - and most of the time it comes naturally... just sometimes it's a strain...



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Thursday, July 26, 2007 2:23 AM

what a great thread. can't believe i've missed it before. actually, i relate best to the commander of the alliance cruiser in bushwhacked. i know that will generate some hate. hear me out. he's doin his job, and under the circumstances, how can he expect to know otherwise. he wants to protect his crew and their families (doesn't care what the alliance has with the siblings and when the killing happens, he puts guards at the nursery). and in the end, even Mal agrees, can't let them profit. Mal does the right thing and helps the Alliance crew out by killing the crazy nut. The commander does right and lets them go. he didn't have to. he has his own code that he tries to live by. i respect that. he does what's right. i also relate to the sheriff on the train job. fair and what you would hope for in law enforcement.

he makes everybody cry, he's like a monster

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Thursday, July 26, 2007 4:01 AM

I feel like I relate to Simon. This is because he is highly intelligent and he is always around people who aren't near as smart as he his ... I work in a call centre ... you fill in the gap there :P. Also he is out of place. My new home is 2,000 miles from my old one and even though I have been here for 4 years I still feel like an outsider here at times. Also his caring for River and his distance from his folks; my sister was my guardian when I was 15 (9 years ago) and I am just as distant from my folks. Mind you that is more so towards river but more Simon than anyone else.

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Thursday, July 26, 2007 5:53 AM

I too join the 'I relate to Simon' bandwagon.

Smart? 'A' student, I've been told I'm gifted. Common sense when I talk in general conversation? It sometimes eludes me. Fumbling idiot when approached by guys? (as I am a chica) YES.

When he recited that little fact about the Eygptians... yeah I sometimes do that too.

I also tend to understand him because he's somewhat introverted and out of place which is me in the real world. I also get the bond between him and River and his protectiveness of her. I have a young brother, and while I doubt I will ever rescue his genius self (He's sorta like River, #1 in his classes, pianist, brat, and sometimes I think he's insane ) from the government, I care about him tons and we have that deep sibling relationship thing going on.

Ash

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Thursday, July 26, 2007 3:36 PM

Jayne, even though he's pretty much the opposite to me (In personality, I feel I'm probably somewhat 80% Wash 20% Simon).

I suppose he represents the assertiveness I wish I had.

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Thursday, July 26, 2007 4:06 PM

River or Simon definately...probably River. Aside from the gender difference, we're both way smart (ok simon is too), we both are weird and isolated sometimes, we can both kick butt sometimes :P

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Thursday, July 26, 2007 4:25 PM

What a great thread! I think the beautiful thing about Firefly is that I can relate to something in each of our crew. I believe there is a little bit of Mal- that fight for freedom and the responsibility for his crew. Inara- keeping a part of myself at a distance, and the secret love of my heart stays there and is never spoken of ( and of course sharing her love of Mal) , Book- my faith has changd my life, Zoe- there is a little bit of a warrior woman in me, hidden somewhere deep down that I summon in times of need and action, Simon- shy, soft spoken but with a sharp mind and dedication to family that surpasses and overcomes great obstacles, Wash- the fun loving, goofy, big hearted side of me, River- when I feel that the world hasn't caught up with me, that no one could understand what goes on in my head, that I have vast potential waiting to be tapped and used for the benefit of others to utilize hidden gifts, and Jaayne, well I like Jayne the fact that he is absolutely sure of who he is if not whose side he is on, and that he is a good guy to have on your side in a fight, I'm sure there is some of him in here too, hmmm might have to dig to find it though.

But the one I would relate most to is Kaylee- sweet caring, loving Kaylee. I am closest in age to Kaylee (me being 23) and I just felt a kind of kin-ship, kindred feeling to Kaylee right away. I loved how cheery and caring she is. I can relate to that even if I'm not as cheery all the time as Kaylee is. I can also relate to her wanting everyone to be good and trustworthy and how she looks for the best in people, even though it may seem like naivete I think it just makes her who she is. I'm not as amorous as Kaylee but hey a girl can dream can't she? Especially about Simon Tam. Hmmm I like how Kaylee is looked after by Mal and there is a little sister/ brother vibe between them, (Although in my case there wouldn't be a sibling type relationship going on with Mal.)

I like how Kaylee makes them all family eveh though they are in this battered ship out in the Black. I guess we Browncoats are like that, a kind of extended family sticking together out in the world, hanging on to the thoughts and feelings and adventures of a rag-tag crew sailing the sky in a Firefly.

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Thursday, July 26, 2007 4:42 PM

Mal.

I've lost my faith in both God and man. I let few people into my heart to see the real me, and I'm fiercely protective of those I consider family. Although I have no military experience, people often assume that I have. I'm comfortable with guns, but not excitable as to choice. I'm a pragmatist and a libertarian - I do what needs doing, one obstacle at a time.

Oh, and I'm also too damn good looking to die.

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Thursday, July 26, 2007 5:47 PM

BOOK!!!!
I teach people about the bible.

I now its out there but there it is I still belive in GOD and follow with the teachings of the bible. Its a radical way of living but Its who I am.

In a world of you believe what you want I go against the grain and try to teach others what I've learned.

But my favorite carachter is JAYNE. He is delicous.

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Thursday, July 26, 2007 5:47 PM

In order:
Zoe, because I'm loyal, loving, feminine, and fond of weapons and funny men. River, because I'm a little whimsical in the brainpan, feel too much, and have an actually good relationship with my brother. Kaylee, because I get sensitive, mask hurt with anger, and have a great smile and open friendliness. Inara, as certain people view Inara, because I hold dear the idea of sacred sexuality. However, I consider myself more Nandi, because I'm honest about what I want and how I feel, and I'm rebellious enough to go after it and smash a few dulcimers. Simon, because I'm devoted to those important to me. Mal, because I don't want to be under nobody's thumb.
Don't really relate to Book or Jayne. Tired to come up with something, but to no avail.


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Friday, July 27, 2007 10:18 PM

I'm Zoe without a doubt with a little bit of Mal mixed in

I'm feminine yet strong. When people want something taken care of they come to me. I also am very caring although i don't like to show it openly.

Also I'm tore up plenty but I'll always fly true

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Saturday, July 28, 2007 3:43 AM

First off, great thread! I've read about a third of the responses so far, and will be processing the rest in due time.

Secondly, I know I've only been here a few days, but are you guys all used to my long, rambling posts? Yes? Good!

Every character possesses some element that I can relate to, whether it is Zoe's unwavering loyalty or Inara's need for private retreat. That is the great thing about having so many characters; you can have each one basically represent an archetype, but at the same time play with all these idiosyncracies (like Jayne turning out to be a bit of a mama's boy) that make them so rich and human, we can't help but see ourselves in them. Indeed, this board could benefit from an in-depth analysis of each character (if there isn't one somewhere already), and as soon as I have time I will be all over that project like a Reaver on a... O.K., it doesn't matter how I try to finish that, it's going to be wildly inappropriate, but you get my point. Nevertheless, I relate to some characters more than others, so away we go...

(Obviously none of these parallels are going to be as extreme and exciting in my case, but that is what makes the crew dramatic TV characters and me a resident of tired mundania.)

First, I do relate to Simon. I am an educated individual, and right now could be rapidly climbing the ladder to success in an engineering design or analytical group. Unfortunately, some things didn't go exactly as planned my senior year at college. I got my degree, but suffice it to say that I wasn't in a good bargaining position when I went to get a job. I had to take what I could get, which was a manufacturing support engineer. I have infinite respect for people who make their living with their hands. It is a family tradition, and I often envy their strength and stamina. Nevertheless, as the college boy, I don't really fit in there, and there are numerous guys in the factory who don't miss an opportunity to remind me that I don't. Also, there are a few who will flat-out lie to your face if it can in some way make their job easier, and I've had people steal things from my desk, so I sometimes feel like I've fallen in with cutthroats.

Next, I get River, as I have been called 'gifted.' Had I chosen to develop any one thing I was good at, I think I could have been River-like in that one, single thing. Instead I've become more of a generalist. In that, though, I often feel fragmented, like the "real" me is lost somewhere. I also had to go through a lot of governemnt tests when I was young to determine if I should skip a grade of school, and during that period had to get used to a bunch of people who weren't me standing around debating my future. Perhaps most importantly, I've gone through periods where I felt like I was losing my grip, like my life was spiraling out of my control, and during which I struggled with whether my continued existence was really of any benefit to anyone. And during those times all I really wanted was to be a regular kid.

I see a lot of myself in Mal, also. Though he has lost his faith, in other ways we are very similar. I am aggresively independent, and I respond with strong opposition to anybody trying to tell me how to live my life. I am often called on to lead, whether I like it or not, and when I am given those responsibilities, I expect my plans to be followed. If my friends and I were ever drawn into some kind of Firefly-esque danger, I know they'd all look to me to get them out of it somehow. I don't always think I'm the best leader, but if everybody else is just standing around with their 'plows' in their hands not knowing what to do, then I'll set a course and expect others to help me or get out of my way. Sometimes I deal harshly with the people I love if I feel it's needed (right or wrong), but I know they are the ones who keep me in the air and I try to show them that gratitude. I am not easy to get to know or to live with, but I am fiercely protective of the ones I love, and I respond to disloyalty with unashamed contempt and aggression.

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Friday, August 10, 2007 4:07 AM

Digging holes, for posts.

Very enjoyable thread

I relate a lot to River. I'm the-Fay-hwa-speaking-wacko-in-his -late-teens-with-a-certain-oddness-to-him type. I am intuitive, yet thoroughly analytical in the way I perceive things, I'm volatile, and I don't connect with people awfully well. Yep, I'm all River... Well, I guess I'm saner, thanks to my brain being still whole, but I'm straying away from my point. River is probably the reason I got so deeply touched by the show. Not so much because I can relate to her somewhat, but because she's a such a beautiful character. Wonderfuly acted to, all the kudos in the verse to Summer Glau.

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Friday, August 10, 2007 4:52 PM

I have to be unoriginal and relate to Simon (and a little bit to River). Even before watching Firefly I was told that I and my little sister had a very special relationship, and though I love all my brothers and sisters dearly, still, she and I are the closest, nigh inseparable. We're both gifted, and she says very odd things sometimes, and though I'm fourteen years older we still play together like the flashback at the beginning of "Safe". So when I watched Firefly, I completely felt for Simon, even if he was a jerk sometimes...because I truly believe that I'd do what he did for my family. I also have to admit that it took years and years to "fit in" at all, as I was the bookish shy girl who had no clue about popular culture at all, and was likely to stick her foot in her mouth if she opened it , so I have to defend Simon there a bit. If you aren't shy, you can't understand what it's like, and how easily your struggles with communication get taken for arrogance or aloofness. But I also have a weird way of viewing the world, mostly kept hidden, and I often have a difficult time being understood because of that fact, so I can sympathize with River.

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Friday, August 10, 2007 9:29 PM

I'd say Book.
Not by the whole Preacher schpiel, as I have no concurent faith other then believing in God in general... But the seriousnes (mostly, mind), and the loyalty and downright Belief in something (When I believe in someat, I believe HARD)... yeah, that works. Oh, and Simon.
Cuz Simon is just that awesome.

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We're on their hearts and minds,
A million heads are bowed to bring us safely home...
Hemmed in by emptiness,
A million ways that everything could be undone...

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Saturday, August 11, 2007 8:15 AM

Zoe... Because she speaks her mind (e.g. about Mal's questionable decisions) and has no time for Saffron's icky women-exist-to-serve-men act. She also has a nice dry sense of humour.

Inara... Because she's another strong female character, but also because she has inner conflict which she tries to work out on her own without burdening anyone else. Plus she doesn't take any crap from Mal.

And Mal... For the side of him that has done the whole patriotism, religion, fighting for a just cause etc bit and is now deeply cynical about life - but he's nevertheless held onto his strong sense of loyalty to a select group of people. He seems to need something in his universe to believe in, despite his outer show of "I'm all business." Interesting to speculate what would happen if something ever happened to shatter that faith in/loyalty to those he trusts... I suspect he'd become a pretty dangerous individual if he ever lost that final connection to humanity.



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Tuesday, August 21, 2007 2:31 AM

I just read through the entire thread during my lunch, and i love how this one show can bring so many different people into one community.

Anyway, I relate mostly to Jayne, because to so many people I come across as not having been overburdened with an abundance of schooling, or as insensitive towards others, but if you are around me enough my intelligence might just suprise you, and i can in fact be very emotional. Not to mention i like a good rousing fight and all kinds of weapons, which is probably part of the reason I joined the Marine Corps. Also like Jayne, I am saving as muuch as I can to help my mom.

Mixed in with that is some of the Captain, Zoe, and the Doc. Like Mal I don't like complications, but they do seem to crop up, and I am rather independent minded. Like Zoe, I am extremely loyal to my friends and family. Unfortunately, I seem to have Simon's lack of skill with the ladies, oh well, you can't win em all.

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Tuesday, August 21, 2007 8:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jockockeyock:
Yess Natti ok maybe im mean but you know if any one tryed to hurt you id be more grr to them and less arge to you.....
I also am smart in a pychotic way not like im crazzy i just dont think like normal people
hmmmm River Natti I thought you were more of a kaylee specualy with your (Vrookman)

The court of this obsession, is abstracted from possession which when the worlds of outside in fall.



what do you mean with my vrookman? i'd like to know

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Tuesday, August 21, 2007 8:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jockockeyock:
Yess Natti ok maybe im mean but you know if any one tryed to hurt you id be more grr to them and less arge to you.....
I also am smart in a pychotic way not like im crazzy i just dont think like normal people
hmmmm River Natti I thought you were more of a kaylee specualy with your (Vrookman)

The court of this obsession, is abstracted from possession which when the worlds of outside in fall.



what do you mean with my vrookman? i'd like to know

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Wednesday, August 22, 2007 12:39 AM

I'm River. I'm really smart, I don't relate well to people, and I'm sorta crazy, and I even got a cut to the brain! (it was a car accident when I was a toddler, I was crossing the sidewalk in front of a driveway, and the car backed out.) Also, I've been known to spout weird bits of info, like River does in Safe, with "The human body can be drained of blood in 8.6 seconds, given adequate vaccuuming systems". I havn't had any trouble with the government, but then I wouldn't have gone to that school.

River: "The human body can be drained of blood in 8.6 seconds, given adequate vaccuuming systems."

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Wednesday, August 22, 2007 1:02 AM

Pretty much Mal...I tend to take charge ( and usually I'd prefer to be in charge since everyone else will likely screw it up if I leave them to it) and though I might be tired and frustrated, I do the job ( I teach emotionally disturbed and behavior disordered students in junior high if this helps explain) also, I'm fine with killing someone as longs as it's done right:)

Though I'm fondest of Jayne ..who is, I must say exactly like most of my students.

"I'm not all that interested in the mental health of people who want to kill me. "- Leroy Jethro Gibbs

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Tuesday, August 28, 2007 12:42 AM

folks around me would probably say i was a mix of Mal and Inara - a take charge type with nurturing qualities. always making sure that everyone around me is being taken care of...

but i relate to all the characters very strongly in different ways. i guess that's one of the reasons this show is so unbelieveably amazing. these are real human beings with quirks and flaws and beauty.



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Tuesday, August 28, 2007 5:35 AM

Well this is easy enough

Mal

Simple really have a dislike of all the bueacracy. Always do the opposite of what i should when backed into a corner or given ultimatums. Fiercly protective of family and friends (AKA my crew). Don't mind operating within my own code. Also have a love hate relationship in the past (Inara type romanance). Would consider myself a realist. Love speaking in an informal manner.

Although not so much on the gun fighting and ship running front.

Also a little bit of Jayne in there because i have been known to say some horrific things and i can be a little mercenary at times.

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Tuesday, August 28, 2007 7:20 AM

Definately Jayne, mainly because of my love for guns and my "shoot first ask questions later" attitude. Also I can be a bit mercenary If the price is right of course! But I do have more schoolin than he does, so I'm a smart merc Oh and did I mention my love of guns, I've named all of mine as well!!


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Tuesday, August 28, 2007 7:54 AM

I'd like to say Mal, because he has his own sense of honor and decency... but everyone else seems to think I'm Wash, and that's okay, too.

Side note: I wannabe Spike, also, but I'm afraid I come a LOT closer to being Xander, or possibly Giles...

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Saturday, September 15, 2007 2:34 AM

Hm....that is the question, isn't it?

Well, Zoe's a military girl, similarity there ;); but I can definitely relate to the relationship Simon has with River, cuz me and my brother are close like that, and I can definitely identify with Mal's sense of honor and odd sense of nobility.
But, if there was really someone on the show I could relate to, it would definitely be Kaylee. I'm really good at what I do and I know my stuff, but to people who don't know me, hell, even people who know me, I might seem a little goofy or 'flaky' on the surface. And I'm interested in people :) "They've all got stories!"

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Saturday, September 15, 2007 5:32 AM

I'd have to go with... Mal or Book, personality wise... meaning I deal with crazy messed up stuff no kid (and yes, for this kinda thing I'll still gladly call myself a kid at 19 years old) has a right too, also, I have Mals odd nobility in me, and problems ALWAYS seem to crop up in even the most simple of plans... and I sometimes find my path... cloudy... and am not very proud of some of the things I've done... Simon intellegence wise (I'm no River, but I'm no slouch when it comes to book smarts) and Jayne for overall ability to cause pain if it is needed... Also, should probably throw a bit of River in there for the "very best in violence," that we see in the BDM (not saying I could stand against Reavers or anything, but if it comes to a brawl... well... Y'all ready to meet the real me now?)

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Sunday, September 16, 2007 5:13 AM

Quote:

...and Jayne for overall ability to cause pain if it is needed... Also, should probably throw a bit of River in there for the "very best in violence," that we see in the BDM (not saying I could stand against Reavers or anything, but if it comes to a brawl... well... Y'all ready to meet the real me now?)


Dude... Can I be your friend ?


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Sunday, September 16, 2007 5:34 AM

lol... NEVER... Just kidding

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 4:53 PM

I definitely identify with Wash most. He's up for a good time and goofs off but when the chips are down he's all over it. He can get serious and be very selfless when he needs to be. Mostly though, he cares for the rest of the crew and is willing to defend them.

Mercy is the mark of a great man *stab* Guess I'm just a good man. *stab* Well, I'm alright.

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 10:53 PM

used to think I identified with Wash, but one day when I mentioned I would happily smack Mal Reynolds if I met him,My co workers started to giggle coz they thought I was alot like him. the reasons they gave were:1) despite being a brash and compulsive leader, loyalty compelled them to follow me into good and bad situations 2)they felt strongly that I would kill someone without blinking if they threatened the people in my care.3)I'm irritating in the same way as Mal. Then they made me take an online quizz, and I had a 93% likeness to Mal, which made me feel kinda weird coz I'm a girl and not very tall and don't have any guns, but I did frighten a self defense instructor once.

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