New SciFi Wire Poll.. Should Harrison Ford continue as Indiana Jones or should Nathan Fillion be considered?

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FOLLOWMAL

Sunday, March 19, 2006 11:51 PM

Hey, just saw this. Go vote!

Poll is here and on the right side of the page.

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/

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N0SKILLZ

Sunday, March 19, 2006 11:54 PM

everyone should be aware, that at this point in time, Nathan only has 33% of the votes, while 51% think Harrison should be doing it until he falls over in his walker and breaks a hip.

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INDYBLUES

Monday, March 20, 2006 12:05 AM

Don't let my username fool ya, I AM biased, but Ford IS Indy. But I gotta tell ya, Nathan could make a great "Younger" Indy, if they set new stories "pre" Raiders of the Lost Ark.
'Blues

COPILOT

Monday, March 20, 2006 12:10 AM

Sean Connery gave up 007 I think it's time for Harrison Ford to pass the torch as well. Although Harrison Ford is still a damn fine looking man to me. He's just a tad bit old to be pulling Indy's stunts. I'm concerned for his health here.

An I carried such a torch

PERSEPHONE736

Monday, March 20, 2006 12:13 AM

I agree. I love Harrison Ford in the movies but I do think he's a bit up there for such a physically demanding role. My vote goes to Nathan Fillion.

AZHEA

Monday, March 20, 2006 12:24 AM

"Golden years" Indy is fine. Nathan would make an excellant younger Jones. I'd LOVE to see that!!!!

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SILUNAKA

Monday, March 20, 2006 12:32 AM

Pant Pant, hchmmm, yes, Nathan would make a fabulous indie!! I for one would be watching in case he accidentally lost his shirt in a close shave with a dodgy character...... and also because of his acting talent aswell

sil

FOLLOWMAL

Monday, March 20, 2006 12:54 AM

Silunaka, you sound like a born Nathan Appreciator.

First off, yea, Nathan would make a fine Indy. He's got the acting ability to do it and he does his own stunts and wouldn't it be nice if Indy had a love interest and got to kiss someone. Yea, I could like that.

Back again to the Nathan Appreciatin'. We Nathanaholics or Malaholics, whichever term you prefer and I answer to both have a thread over on the other Browncoat Board in which we discuss Nathan daily. Thought you might be interested, if so ask and I'll be happy to share the link with you.

Secondly.. you are new and we greet new folks with a virtual browncoat and a smile .. so...

*hands Silunaka a browncoat*

here's your browncoat and welcome to our ship!

It's the nicest!

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LISSA

Monday, March 20, 2006 1:01 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by IndyBlues:
Don't let my username fool ya, I AM biased, but Ford IS Indy. But I gotta tell ya, Nathan could make a great "Younger" Indy, if they set new stories "pre" Raiders of the Lost Ark.
'Blues

my thoughts exactly.

~lissa, retired spwhore

SILUNAKA

Monday, March 20, 2006 1:05 AM

Thanks malf, It fits perfectly I am def a mal appreciator, is the link on this site? Anyway, thanks for the greeting. this site is shiny.
sil

FOLLOWMAL

Monday, March 20, 2006 1:18 AM

It's probably around here somewhere, but it's easier if I link it.

http://www.serenitymovie.org/browncoats/forums/index.php?

You have to sign up, just like you do here and then on the front page scroll down to General Discussions and click and then somewhere usually toward the top is a thread called Appreciatin' Nathan. You'll find a bunch of us over there visiting. This is home and over there is a nice place to visit with really nice pictures. I'm FollowMal over there too.

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TAMFANIAM

Monday, March 20, 2006 1:35 AM

I don't know... that's just wrong. Unless the movie takes place twenty years later and he goes after...an artifact that proves aliens built the pyramids. No, wait that's been done already. I love Harrison Ford and two of the Jones movies. But he's just a little aged and Nathan would do a shiny job. Hell how many James Bonds have they had already?

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BROWNCOATER

Monday, March 20, 2006 2:48 AM

I'd prefer Nathan to Ford in just about any role.

Does that seem right to you?

DERANGEDMILK

Monday, March 20, 2006 2:49 AM

Well, we're up to 39% now. Keep voting people, its in our best interest that any of the firefly cast gets more attention. Besides....Fillion, as Indy...hell yea!
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MATTCOZ

Monday, March 20, 2006 3:12 AM

Harrison Ford is and always will be Indiana Jones, but Nathan could be his son, Illinois Jones, heh.

DERANGEDMILK

Monday, March 20, 2006 3:15 AM

You just like to frackin' argue with me MATTCOZ.
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ARCADIA

Monday, March 20, 2006 3:25 AM

I was unable to pass up the oportunity to vote for Indy: The Golden Years. Nathan has a fine sense of humor. I think he'll forgive me.

Personally, though, I would have liked to go for unlisted options d) there shouldn't be a fourth Indiana Jones. Goerge Lucas should go back to his ranch where he won't cause any more harm and Harrison Ford should pick a different film.

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KAYNA

Monday, March 20, 2006 3:46 AM

The score is now Nathan 41%, Ford 44%. We shall soo pull ahead.

I agree with thew comments that Harrison ford would be all right if the part is supposed to be for an older Indy (I almost hit the golden years option) but Nathan would do an awesome job. I liked the Bond comparison. Just keep Indy in an ageless limbo and give him countless adventures. When the current fellow is too old, give it to someone new. I like that idea.

Or maybe I just like the idea of Nathan in that fedora, or shirtless with a whip. Indy always loses his shirt at some point. Hmm...shirtless...

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OLDFOGEY

Monday, March 20, 2006 4:00 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Browncoater:
I'd prefer Nathan to Ford in just about any role.

I'd prefer Nathan to alomst anyone in any role.
He'd make a *fine* Indiana. As to "doing his own stunts" - that gets worrisome. I don't want him to get hurt doing something dangerous or so painful that he loses count after 5. That's really not necessary. There's lots more fun ways to lose count after 5.

FLORALBUNNY

Monday, March 20, 2006 4:49 AM

I'd be all for Nathan playing young Indy or a son (Illinois? :-p) and letting Ford totter onward until he retires.

As for Nathan doing his own stunts, it's time for him to stop hitting things with his face -- it's really, really time. Cauliflower is on the way.

If I could get through to him with that message and know it had any effect I'd rest easy and never bother him again.

Nathan, let the stunt doubles earn their pay and demonstrate their training. Please! We know what a macho man you are already.

And happy birthday, too.

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WTE

Monday, March 20, 2006 5:22 AM

It's now 42 to 43. Almost :O

HONKS

FOLLOWMAL

Monday, March 20, 2006 5:34 AM

As of 11:29 CST here in Missouri, Nathan has 42% and Harrison has 43% of the vote.

And, Kayna, I agree about the shirtless thing.

ETA: WTE and I were posting nearly together

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CABOT

Monday, March 20, 2006 6:53 AM

I agree Harrison Ford is Indiana Jones. Too bad they waited a flipping 17 years before getting around to doing another film.

Since they have taken this long, Ford is now several years older than Sean Connery was during the shooting of "The Last Crusade" in which he played Indy's father.

As far as Nathan being too young, he just turned 35 making him only a couple years younger than Ford was(37-38)while making "The Raiders of the Lost Ark" which was released in 1981.

I watched the "Younger Years" series, I bought the novels and either way, I'll go see this movie hoping-against-hope that this franchise doesn't get screwed up too.

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BLUEEYEDBRIGADIER

Monday, March 20, 2006 8:49 AM

Well...as of 3:44 EST, it's neck and neck at 43%!

And while I have always enjoyed Harrison Ford as Indy, I think it's time the fedora and whip are passed along.

However, I gots me a compromise idea: Indy follows Cortez's or whomever's footsteps to find the Fountain of Youth, finds it, gets accidently dunked in it for a few seconds and out can come Nathan....kinda cheesy, but with the right polish job, it could work;)

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AGIRLYMAN

Monday, March 20, 2006 10:20 AM

Nathan as Indiana Jones gets my money, Harrison as Indy doesn't even get a rental. Too old, too stale...did I already say "Too old?"

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CANTONHEROINE

Monday, March 20, 2006 10:41 AM

I just voted, and Nathan's in the lead by 1%.

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MIGHTYROAR

Monday, March 20, 2006 12:53 PM

I just voted for Nathan, but Ford's in the lead by 2%

MAJORCLOD

Monday, March 20, 2006 1:38 PM

I voted Harisson Ford. I grew up watching Indy, I can honestly not think of anyone else doing it.

As long as they write Indy's age into the film, it will be fine. He will be able to pass as an Indy in his 50's, I highly doubt they will be going for an ultra young Indy.

I wish Nathan all the sucess in his career, but Indy is a role I do not want to see him in. Can you imagine the critism this role would bring? The Malcolm Reynolds/Han Solo comparisons were bad enough in Firefly/Serenity.

I'm sorry, but Ford owns this role.

PURPLEPEBBLE

Monday, March 20, 2006 2:03 PM

Hmm now this really is a hard one, on the one hand you have the oh so *swoon* lovely nathan, who we all know if given the chance would do a damn shinny job. but on the other harrison ford IS indy.

I guess i have to go with the nathan would work as a young indy or 'son of indy' I think harrison has nailed the original too much to be replaced.

well just my two cents.

oh hey i heard some one was giving out coats round here, i been around a little while, guess i should get mine. this brown blanket i been wearing around the towns is begining to get a little thin.

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SITTINGDUCK

Monday, March 20, 2006 2:25 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BlueEyedBrigadier:
However, I gots me a compromise idea: Indy follows Cortez's or whomever's footsteps to find the Fountain of Youth, finds it, gets accidently dunked in it for a few seconds and out can come Nathan....kinda cheesy, but with the right polish job, it could work;)

FYI it was Ponce de Lyon who searched for the Fountain of Youth. Cortez was the one responsible for pretty much wiping out the Aztec Empire.

Quote:
Originally posted by MajorClod:
I wish Nathan all the sucess in his career, but Indy is a role I do not want to see him in. Can you imagine the critism this role would bring? The Malcolm Reynolds/Han Solo comparisons were bad enough in Firefly/Serenity.

Personally, I always saw Mal as being more like Butch Cassidy (at least how he was portrayed by Paul Newman).

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SLIPPERYSNIPER

Monday, March 20, 2006 2:27 PM

nathan is awesome and all but when it comes to indiana jones ( i own the collectors dvd) harrison is what made me love those movies...i dont think or trust any other actor to do it

FOLLOWMAL

Monday, March 20, 2006 2:36 PM

Hey, PurplePebble, we can't have any of our Browncoats going around in a thin brown blanket.
I went down to my storeroom and brought you back this here browncoat...

*hands PurplePebble a browncoat*

see how that fits.

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PURPLEPEBBLE

Monday, March 20, 2006 2:43 PM

*Slips into given coat*

Oh oh oh, now that is what i call comfy.

*spins around and around, till gets dizzy and has to sit down*

Thankie FollowMal. xxx

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INDEPENDANT

Monday, March 20, 2006 2:45 PM

Nathan would definatly be a better choice for the role in this day and age.
Ford is too old for the role. I cant see him running and jumping around, and knowing there is a stunt double on the screen will spoil the movie.

Is'nt Harrison Ford the same age as Connery was when he appeared as Indy's father in the last movie.

Firefly fan S.Wales

BROWNCOAT1

Monday, March 20, 2006 2:58 PM

Nathan & Harrison are running neck & neck this morning @ 43% each.

Of course I voted for our Captain.

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JAYNESBUNKWOMAN

Monday, March 20, 2006 3:15 PM

I just voted and they are still neck 'n neck at 43%.

As for what do I think - well, Nathan of course.
That being said, I too grew up with Ford playing Indy and loved him. At this point though I think he is just too old and he's not plausible as Indy, unless it is an Indy that around Ford's own age. In which case, Nathan could still play indy for the flashback scenes....Hmmmm, i wonder if we could get Adam in the movie with Nathan....

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DANIELFYRE

Monday, March 20, 2006 3:26 PM

I can't officially condone changing actors in a series, however I can't think of a better Indiana Jones than Nathan if Harrison Ford is too old. I think they have the same comic timing and just "kickass...ness" to pull it off.

-Dan

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OLDFOGEY

Monday, March 20, 2006 3:34 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by independant:
...knowing there is a stunt double on the screen will spoil the movie.

No it won't! No it won't!
Oh. I gotta go talk some co-workers into voting.

A for HF fans resenting NF taking Indy's role, that's probably unavoidable. I'm thinking they will some of them become converts pretty quickly though. The rest of them can just join our lobby for "The Return of MAL!", and get Mr. Fillion back on Serenity where he belongs.

UNREGISTEREDCOMPANION

Monday, March 20, 2006 3:35 PM

Why not this....

Indiana Jones goes on an adventure, starts feeling his age, and decides to have a nephew/godson/etc... (played by Nathan "Sex God" Fillion) come along to help him on his next job.

This would set up all kinds of young bull vs. old bull dynamics...and Indy could also find himself "turning into his dad" at times and so fighting it. This could also be a total chance for the tourch to be passed while still giving Harrison Ford his due.

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STORYMARK

Monday, March 20, 2006 3:45 PM

Had to vote Ford, myself. Much as I dig our good ol' captain, Ford will always be Indy for me. Just like I don't want anyone else to play Mal in the Firefly revival in 20 years.

Besides, they've just announced they have a script they're all happy with. They have also said that this script deals with Indy's age. So that makes Nathan a bit young for the role.

And for those who think it "won't be the same" with a stuny double: you don't think that was really Ford getting dragged under that truck in "Raiders", do you?

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ZAPACTIONSDOWER

Monday, March 20, 2006 4:10 PM

Nathan would be a great Indy but I think that hardcore fans of the franchise would go crazy if they replaced Ford at this point. Maybe in a prequel he could play Indy, that would be cool.

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AENGUS

Monday, March 20, 2006 4:15 PM

I had to vote Ford as well. I can't see anyone but him being Indy just like I can't see anyone but Nathan ever playing our goodly Captain Reynolds...

GWEK

Monday, March 20, 2006 4:29 PM

Much as I loved Harrison Ford in the first three Indy movies, I cringe at the idea of him in a 4th, and I also don't want to see him pass the torch to another CHARACTER. If I go to see Indy, I want to see INDY.

Fillion would be great, and the poll now stands even (both with 43%)!

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ACRAZYIVAN

Monday, March 20, 2006 5:06 PM

Last I heard rumor-wise on the new Indy movie, is that it's about Indiana Jones training someone new. Almost like Batman Beyond on the WB. In this case, I think Nathon Fillion makes a good student to Harrison Ford. But I'm sorry - there's just no replacing Indiana Jones. I think Nathan is awesome and a great actor. All fanboy aside, I think he could have deserved an Oscar nod this year - almost never before have I seen someone embody a character as much as Nathan is Mal. However, Harrison will always be Indy. Indiana Jones is NOT like James Bond. Having a different actor isn't the same thing. It'll feel like a cheap knock-off movie if it isn't Harrison Ford.

But like I said, I heard there was a newcomer who Indy is 'training.' And for that role, I'd be happy to see Nathan Fillion.

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GOR

Monday, March 20, 2006 5:19 PM

Harrison is, and always will be, Indy.

I did think River Phoenix was interesting in the younger role but if they're going to make a new Indy movie I wanna see Ford up there on the screen.

Now don't get me wrong. Its not like I'd wanna see Ford play Captain Tightpants or anybody else for that matter, but that just adds to my feeling about it. There are certain roles that should only be played by one actor and that's that.

Mal is Nathan and Indy is Harrison...its just the way it is ;)

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GWEK

Monday, March 20, 2006 5:44 PM

Only reason Indiana Jones "isn't like James Bond" is a timing issue. Folks felt exactly the same way about Connery and Bond at the time (and Connery wasn't even the first guy to play Bond!). We've already seen 4 other guys play Indiana Jones at different stages in his life, so the precedent exists.

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CAMBRIDGE

Monday, March 20, 2006 5:55 PM

polls now %43 Fillion, %43 Ford
I say let Fillion be in any role, he'd be very well.

INDEPENDANT

Monday, March 20, 2006 6:28 PM

I like this idea, this will open up new avenues of adventure for Indy.

As long as Indy dies, otherwise people will always wonder where he is and why he isn't in the next three inevitable films.
(following the whedonesque style of character killing)

IMLAMNA

Monday, March 20, 2006 6:41 PM

I think Harrison Ford is and always will be Indy and from what Paul Bettany said about the fight scenes in FIREWALL, he's still in GREAT shape, but if they ever get a younger Indy, no one would be shinier than our own Mal, I reckon
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CAUSAL

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 12:37 AM

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Tuesday, March 21, 2006 12:51 AM

I don't like both of them:

- Ford is too old
- Fillion lacks experience. If he had proved himself in more (successful) big scale movies, he could do it. But not at this point.

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INDYBLUES

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 1:07 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by GWEK:
Only reason Indiana Jones "isn't like James Bond" is a timing issue. Folks felt exactly the same way about Connery and Bond at the time (and Connery wasn't even the first guy to play Bond!)

Huh?? Wasn't Dr. No the first Bond film?? and wasn't Sean Connery in that film??

Please, enlighten me, 'cause I always thought Connery was the first.
'Blues

NCBROWNCOAT

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 1:27 AM

This is a hard one. Grew up with Harrison Ford as Indy.The thing is I really can't see Harrison Ford as a 60ish Indy. The 4th movie should have been done long ago and the character retired. Really no one else can play Indy.

The same with Mal, no one but Nathan can play him either but if the role of Indy is recast as a younger man, Nathan is the only actor that could do the character justice.

Edit: Nathan would have to have several scenes without a shirt and also tight pants.

GELASSENHEIT

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 3:23 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by ncbrowncoat:
This is a hard one. Grew up with Harrison Ford as Indy.The thing is I really can't see Harrison Ford as a 60ish Indy. The 4th movie should have been done long ago and the character retired. Really no one else can play Indy.

The same with Mal, no one but Nathan can play him either but if the role of Indy is recast as a younger man, Nathan is the only actor that could do the character justice.

Edit: Nathan would have to have several scenes without a shirt and also tight pants.

I totally agree. Loved Harrison Ford in this role, but c'mon. This will be so unbelieveable if he starred in Indy 4.

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CABOT

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 5:57 AM

Quote:
Huh?? Wasn't Dr. No the first Bond film?? and wasn't Sean Connery in that film?? -- IndyBlues

The new flim they are making titled Casino Royale is actually a remake of the 1967 Bond film which starred David Niven. The Niven version, was treated as a spoof and also starred Peter Sellers who had previously teamed up with Niven in the original Pink Panther movie.

However, back in 1954 on a (CBS television) dramatic anthology series called Climax, Casino Royale was shown as a pilot for a possible James Bond TV Series. Veteran television actor Barry Nelson played Bond. That makes it the first performance of James Bond...8 years before Dr. No.

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Tuesday, March 21, 2006 11:15 AM

Quote:
However, back in 1954 on a (CBS television) dramatic anthology series called Climax, Casino Royale was shown as a pilot for a possible James Bond TV Series. Veteran television actor Barry Nelson played Bond. That makes it the first performance of James Bond...8 years before Dr. No

Hmmm.... Hard to imagine Bond working on television back then. I doubt if it was shown on British TV either.
The 1967 Casino Royal was a complete mess, they threw out all of Flemmings original plot and it ended up as a loosly linked series of scetches featuring various actors of the period.

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MIGHTYROAR

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 3:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MajorClod:

I'm sorry, but Ford owns this role.

In the same way, Connery owned the James Bond role, but people age and times move on. Brosnan was an amazing Bond, and for many people was their favourite bond. Though I like the old bond films, I like the new ones too. I think, as long as they chose the right actor, they could move away from the ever-ageing Ford, and the same thing will happen to the Indy role. Ford is now 63 which is, i'm sorry to say way too unbelieveable for an action hero like Indy. They need to find another actor to fill his shoes. I used to think that Dennis Quaid would also be a good indy, but Nathan could definitely fill the role.

MIGHTYROAR

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:06 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Cabot:
Quote:
Huh?? Wasn't Dr. No the first Bond film?? and wasn't Sean Connery in that film?? -- IndyBlues

The new flim they are making titled Casino Royale is actually a remake of the 1967 Bond film which starred David Niven. The Niven version, was treated as a spoof and also starred Peter Sellers who had previously teamed up with Niven in the original Pink Panther movie.

However, back in 1954 on a (CBS television) dramatic anthology series called Climax, Casino Royale was shown as a pilot for a possible James Bond TV Series. Veteran television actor Barry Nelson played Bond. That makes it the first performance of James Bond...8 years before Dr. No.

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JAYNESBUNKWOMAN

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:08 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by CBY:
I don't like both of them:
- Fillion lacks experience. If he had proved himself in more (successful) big scale movies, he could do it. But not at this point.

Yikes - hope you don't get lynched!

Poll now stands at 43% Ford and 42% Fillion

JBW

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BLACKOUTNIGHTS

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 5:16 PM

I had to go with the 'golden years' choice. I've heard Connery is supposedly playing the father again, so that's reason enough to see Ford as Indy.

Anything else on the big screen would just be wrong.

On another hand, I've heard Matt Damon will be playing Mal in the sequel to Serenity.

TARSIA

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 5:49 PM

I went with Golden Age. Ford could still and should do an Old Indy fine. Younger Indy could be done great by Nathan, I think.

But Matt Damon as Mal would lead to much lynchin'.

JMUFFIN

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 7:19 PM

Has everyone forgotten about Patriot Games, Clear and Present Danger, and The Sum of All Fears? I think the only logical choice for a younger Indy is Ben Affleck.

INDYBLUES

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 7:30 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JMuffin:
Has everyone forgotten about Patriot Games, Clear and Present Danger, and The Sum of All Fears? I think the only logical choice for a younger Indy is Ben Affleck.

"Shudder"

Now THAT'S blasphemy.
'Blues

JMUFFIN

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 8:27 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by IndyBlues:
Quote:
Originally posted by JMuffin:
Has everyone forgotten about Patriot Games, Clear and Present Danger, and The Sum of All Fears? I think the only logical choice for a younger Indy is Ben Affleck.

"Shudder" Now THAT'S blasphemy.
'Blues

haha! I almost added the vomiting thing to my own post, but figured just saying it got the same point across.

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STORYMARK

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 8:37 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Cabot:

The new flim they are making titled Casino Royale is actually a remake of the 1967 Bond film which starred David Niven. The Niven version, was treated as a spoof and also starred Peter Sellers who had previously teamed up with Niven in the original Pink Panther movie.

Not exactly. Same name, sure. But the new film is based on Flemming's novel. The Niven spoof just used the name.

It's like saying Batman Begins is a remake of the Adam West Batman. Shared source material does nessesarily mean remake.

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MEKAN

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 8:53 PM

No more Indy......let it be done.

REAVERMAN

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:07 PM

I think Nathan would make a better choice for Indi than Ford because, sad to say, Harrison is just gettin' too damn old to do it. Plus it would give Nathan an excuse to use his trusty browncoat again(the whole whip thing mixed in would be cool too!)

INDEPENDANT

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:12 PM

Reply to the question as wether Connery was the first bond?
The first person to play Bond was David Niven in 1967 in Casino Royal. A spoof Bond.
Although Ian Fleming had David Niven in mind when he was writing his books.

VISAGEEZA

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 10:23 PM

I've just checked the results and believe it or not, they are practically neck-a-neck.
Out of 11,190 votes Ford has 43% and Fillion has 42%.

I have to say myself, until I saw Firefly and probably more so Serenity I couldn't imagine anyone else playing Indy, but now I really can see Nathan Fillion in the role. He's got just the right balance of tough-guy, fun, fallable to be right in the role and still be different enough from Ford to bring something else to it.

Quote:
Originally posted by independant:
Reply to the question as wether Connery was the first bond?
The first person to play Bond was David Niven in 1967 in Casino Royal. A spoof Bond.
Although Ian Fleming had David Niven in mind when he was writing his books.

Not so. Dr.No came out in 1962, Casion Royale was 1967. Connery was first.

FIREFLYGAL

Wednesday, March 22, 2006 1:03 AM

Just as Nathan never wants to see someone else play Mal. I think Indy "belongs" to Harrison and I would not want to see Nathan in the Indy role. If Nathan took the roll it would also be hypocritical and I would be very disappointed in him.

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Wednesday, March 22, 2006 2:15 AM

I think it would be interesting, simply because Ford went from playing the captain of a beat-up smuggling spaceship to playing Indiana Jones, and now they're talking about Fillion doing the same thing. Funny, huh?

Doesn't Fillion talk about Ford as an influence in one of the commentaries? Looks like it's time to watch the commentaries again!

All this has me thinking about how shiny it would be if Whedon wrote the script for an Indiana Jones movie. Now, that would be great.

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ECGORDON

Wednesday, March 22, 2006 2:46 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by visageeza:
I've just checked the results and believe it or not, they are practically neck-a-neck.
Out of 11,190 votes Ford has 43% and Fillion has 42%.

I have to say myself, until I saw Firefly and probably more so Serenity I couldn't imagine anyone else playing Indy, but now I really can see Nathan Fillion in the role. He's got just the right balance of tough-guy, fun, fallable to be right in the role and still be different enough from Ford to bring something else to it.

Quote:
Originally posted by independant:
Reply to the question as wether Connery was the first bond?
The first person to play Bond was David Niven in 1967 in Casino Royal. A spoof Bond.
Although Ian Fleming had David Niven in mind when he was writing his books.

Not so. Dr.No came out in 1962, Casion Royale was 1967. Connery was first.

Both wrong. Barry Nelson was the first actor to portray Bond, in a television version of Casino Royale in 1954. http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0310853/

wo men ren ran zai fei xing.

BLUEEYEDBRIGADIER

Wednesday, March 22, 2006 7:47 AM

Ok...while this isn't part of the original thread idea, I think it would help the point some are making....

James Bond....first starred in a book series by Ian Fleming starting in 1952 with Casino Royale and ran till '64 with "The Man With the Golden Gun." First visual portrayal of James Bond was the 1950's CBS tv movie of "Casino Royale" where Bond was a Yank ("Card Sharp Jimmy Bond," anyone?) and Felix Leiter was a Brit (sacrelige, I know). First "official" (i.e. United Artists distributed, EON Productions-made) Bond was 1962's "Dr. No" with Connery.

Now...this means 6 men have played Bond before the current incarnation of Daniel Craig. However, some would argue that both the CBS tv movie and the 1967 spoof (along with the remake of Thunderball as "Never Say Never Again") aren't "official" Bond movies, so Nelson and Niven (along with every major character in the spoof, since a gag was to name all the MI6 agents "James Bond" to confuse the enemy) are out. That leaves Sean Connery, George Lazenby, Roger Moore, Timothy Dalton and Pierce Brosnan. Lots of people have varying favourites, though most swing either for Connery or Brosnan (depending on the generation).

So.....changing the actor can work for film series. Hell, no explanation was ever given for the changes between actors for James Bond and Fleming created a backstory that would make Bond around 86 years old right now...a might older than Harrison Ford's spritely 63. Plus, Paul Bettany has stated Ford can still take a pounding like always. Certainly looked like he was kicking pigu in "Firewall," though the movie was rather...mediocre. So while I have always enjoyed Ford as Indy and cannot wait for the 4th film....any future work with the character would need some new blood. which leaves the door open for our favourite captain;)

BEB

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VISAGEEZA

Wednesday, March 22, 2006 8:41 AM

Quote:

Both wrong. Barry Nelson was the first actor to portray Bond, in a television version of Casino Royale in 1954. http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0310853/

wo men ren ran zai fei xing.

Bah!! Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!!!

MIGHTYROAR

Wednesday, March 22, 2006 9:01 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by ecgordon:

Both wrong. Barry Nelson was the first actor to portray Bond, in a television version of Casino Royale in 1954. http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0310853/

wo men ren ran zai fei xing.

and as I said earler, Bob Holness was the second actor to play Bond, in a 1957 radio version of Moonraker. Sean Connery was third, but who can deny that it was connery who really owned the role - the first to bring the character into mainstream viewing.

STOM

Wednesday, March 22, 2006 5:40 PM

I was voter number 12,994 and Nathan is currently leading by 1%

Nathan - 43%
Ford - 42%
Depends- 15%

I'd love to think it was i that tipped the scales... Hah hah.

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MIDNIGHTRAMBLER

Thursday, March 23, 2006 7:42 AM

I'd rather see him return as Malcolm Reynolds.

JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, March 23, 2006 7:47 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by N0Skillz:
everyone should be aware, that at this point in time, Nathan only has 33% of the votes, while 51% think Harrison should be doing it until he falls over in his walker and breaks a hip.

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It's a tough role to fill, an unenviable task. Re-makes can be very difficult and trying to fit into some one elses shoes is always tough.

If however Harrison does an average job, people might start asking 'Why didn't they get Nathan' - by then nobody will care who fills Indiana's shoes and Fillion will be first in-line for Indy-5 ( if there is one

)

N0SKILLZ

Thursday, March 23, 2006 9:45 AM

Haha, good point. But after seeing Harrisons latest movie. Not so excited about Indy 4, lol. But he did kill a dude with a kitchen appliance.....

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GIXXER

Thursday, March 23, 2006 9:55 AM

I'm not sure I really want a new Indy film. The first one was great, and could have been left at that. Short Round and Willie were distinct harbingers of the cutesy doom that was to be that Binks fellow.

I'm not sure I could face another Prequel-style disaster that, no matter how dire, would be a massive unstoppable juggernaut of a franchise whether we liked it or not.

(Unless, of course, it was actually good...)

G

"Can I have a "P" please, Bob?"

Even if he has been forgotten as an early James Bond, Bob's immortality is guaranteed.

REAVERMAN

Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:01 AM

Hey, can someone get me a direct link to this poll, 'cause I can't find the damn thing?

N0SKILLZ

Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:09 AM

*hint hint* actually read the first post.

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REAVERMAN

Thursday, March 23, 2006 2:05 PM

actually, I tried that one and just got lost. Maybe I'm just an idiot, lemme check again.

REAVERMAN

Thursday, March 23, 2006 2:22 PM

yep, I'm an idiot. I still cant find the gorram poll! WTF, man, WTF!

DANIELFYRE

Thursday, March 23, 2006 2:27 PM

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/

its on the right of the page.

-Dan

Ain't that just shiny?

CHINDI

Thursday, March 23, 2006 6:29 PM

ah hell .. go vote for the Capn.. !

Chindi

FLIPDOG

Thursday, March 23, 2006 6:36 PM

What!? These little polls on scifi are getting really stupid. I mean, I like Nathan, but jeez...who comes up with that idea and posts these things?

Personally, I think Indiana Jones is dead...it ended well, they rode off into the sunset and all was well with the world. And if Lucas has his way, the next one (please don't let it come out) will be about some stupid haunted castle. (Fun Fact: That's what he wanted Last Crusade to be about) Personally, I think we should just let the Indiana Jones pass along as two great movies (and one bleh) in time. Besides...Nathan would be written to play Indy as Mal...and thats not the point of those movies. Indy has decent, but not a whole super lot of depth and Mal is soaking with character it could make one sick if they didn't like it.

No reason to make a franchise out of it...Harrison is Indy. It's like asking to remake The Great Escape and having someone else play Steve McQueen.

BLACKOUTNIGHTS

Thursday, March 23, 2006 8:19 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by FlipDog:
It's like asking to remake The Great Escape and having someone else play Steve McQueen.

Shhhhhh...don't give anyone any ideas.

AGIRLYMAN

Thursday, March 23, 2006 9:33 PM

Hahaha Nathan has the lead now 43-42%! Funny thing to me, Harrison Ford didn't even want to be han solo after the first movie, and wanted the character to be killed off. He should step aside now, and pass the torch to Nathan, who is funnier, and just as tough, or more than old Ford.

P.S. somebody said ben affleck, that just makes me wanna hurt someone.

P.S. Malcolm Jones I presume, lmao!

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ADAMWANKENOBI

Thursday, March 23, 2006 11:50 PM

Nathan would be a fitting replacement for Ford as Indy, IMHO. But to me, Ford IS Indy, and will always be. Besides, this is the final Indy film, and the script has already been written for someone Ford's age, so...

GIXXER

Friday, March 24, 2006 12:38 AM

"...It's like asking to remake The Great Escape and having someone else play Steve McQueen..."

Flipdog - Scarily prescient / owns a ouija board or just read about it?

The project is already in development by New Line

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057115/releaseinfo

Colin Farrell has been mentioned as Hilts.

Then The Hollywood Bandwagon Effect will take over, and there'll be a spate of prison break films released at about the same time.

G

I'm ashamed of myself.

KAYNA

Friday, March 24, 2006 1:12 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by IndyBlues:
Quote:
Originally posted by JMuffin:
Has everyone forgotten about Patriot Games, Clear and Present Danger, and The Sum of All Fears? I think the only logical choice for a younger Indy is Ben Affleck.

"Shudder" Now THAT'S blasphemy.
'Blues

Blasphemy indeed.

And actually, you forgot "The Hunt for Red October". It was the first Jack Ryan movie and he was played by Alec Baldwin. He turned down Patriot Games because he didn't think it was as well writen. Baldwin to Ford is a good example of a franchise passing around the lead role sucessfuly(Sum of All Fears sucked). Though I'm not sure what it means that most folks don't even realize that they're playing the same guy.

As to the poll. It's still 43% to 42% for Nathan.

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FLIPDOG

Friday, March 24, 2006 4:15 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Gixxer:
"...It's like asking to remake The Great Escape and having someone else play Steve McQueen..."

Flipdog - Scarily prescient / owns a ouija board or just read about it?

The project is already in development by New Line

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057115/releaseinfo

Colin Farrell has been mentioned as Hilts.

Then The Hollywood Bandwagon Effect will take over, and there'll be a spate of prison break films released at about the same time.

G

I'm ashamed of myself.

Well, looks like another movie I won't be acknowledging existence of.

THECRUDMAN

Friday, March 24, 2006 4:20 PM

A friend pointed out to me that if the movie is set in the present day, Jones would be much older than ford himself because the movies were set in the 30's and 40's but made much later than that, so if ford is taking up the character at his age the movie would have to take place in the 80's...so just coldwar era james bond type stuff...lame. Whereas if Nathan did it they could set it in the 30's and 40's and have him play the character, or they can set it in the present day, think of it like this: what if Indiana Jones is a legend passed down from person to person like the Dread Pirate Roberts in Princess Bride! that would be awesome!

GOBLUEGIRL

Friday, March 24, 2006 6:02 PM

Perfect segue into where I wanted to go with this thread, crudman, coincidentally enough.

This age thing is definitely an issue, but let's take a closer look at the math.

Ford is 63, was about 37 when he starred as Indy. He's aged 26 years since then. First movie was set in 1936, so if we assume Indy is the same age as Ford, the new Indy movie would need to be set in 1962, not 1980.

There is a certain leeway there, as Ford could probably get away with his character being up to 10 years younger than him. Which would give us a movie set as early as 1952. Which is more reasonable.

However, Ford is going to have to play a character significantly younger than himself, for one simple reason: Nazis.

Anyone who follows the Indiana Jones series knows that to have a good Indy movie, you must have Nazis as bad guys. Raiders of the Lost Ark? Great movie: great bad guys. Temple of Doom? No Nazis. It sucked. Last Crusade: Nazis AND Sean Connery. It rocked.

Here's my stab at a plot: It's 1953. Indy is still working at the University, but maybe he's being urged to retire. But he wants to go on one last dig.

Indy goes to a site in Argentina and stumbles across Nazi war criminals who have fled there, trying to rebuild the reich.

That could set it up where he'd be older, but it'd be realistic, and but still make room for exotic locales, religious overtones, and Nazi bad guys.

The English language needs a second person plural.

WHOME

Friday, March 24, 2006 6:14 PM

Is this relaly an issue? Is a new Indiana Jones movie actually in the works?

If it is... I want Ford. I don't like it when different actors portray the same character in one series, unless they're clearly meant to show different ages. Sean Patrick Flannery already was young Indy in a now-defunct t.v. series, and Nathan is about the age Indy was shown to be in the first movie, isn't he? Besides, I can't see any way to keep Indy young without freezing time, and I don't care much for that, either.

They can do what they want to James Bond, but don't mess with Indiana Jones!

(Of course, if they wanted to show the old Indy sort of passing the torch to a younger colleague of similar temperamant, perhaps played by one Nathan Fillion, that would be okay...)

WHOME

Friday, March 24, 2006 6:16 PM

Quote:
On another hand, I've heard Matt Damon will be playing Mal in the sequel to Serenity.

No! Nooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!

Quote:
I'd rather see him return as Malcolm Reynolds.

Yes! Yeeeeeeeeeeessssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!

MALICIOUS

Friday, March 24, 2006 6:25 PM

Currently (after my vote):

Nathan 43%

Harrison 42%

Mal-licious

I'm going to add cursing and the hurling about of things to my repertoire.

STORYMARK

Friday, March 24, 2006 6:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by gobluegirl:

However, Ford is going to have to play a character significantly younger than himself, for one simple reason: Nazis.

Except that Spielberg has said for years that since Schindler's List and Saving Private Ryan, he didn't think he'd ever be comfortable useing "Cartoon Nazis" in a film again, even Indy.

I'll agree that the best Indy movies had Nazis as villains, but I'm not ready to automatically assume the new one would/will suck without them. Temple of Doom's problems had less to do with the villains (whom I thought were cool) and more to do with the script and the supporting characters (Willie, Short Round).

Quote:
Originally posted by WHOME:
Is this relaly an issue? Is a new Indiana Jones movie actually in the works?

Yep. There has been for years, but they've never gotten a script that all 3 principals (Lucas, Spielberg and Ford) could agree on. As of about a week ago, they announced that they had settled on a script. Spielberg has said he's taking the rest of this year off (the longest break he's taken in.... his whole career as far as I can tell), durring which time he'll be prepping Indy 4, and a Abe Lincoln bio-pic. Then, next year, he'll do his 2-movie routine that he's developed. First, and action/adventure movie for the summer, and an awards-seeking prestige movie for Christmas. He's done this to varrying degrees of success before (Jurrasic/Schindler, Lost World/Amistad, War of the Worlds/Munich). Actually though, the timings a bit different this time around, as the earliest we'll see Indy 4 is Christmas '07, but they may hold it till summer '08.

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THECRUDMAN

Friday, March 24, 2006 11:59 PM

For the 50's and 60's settings the soviets would make good badguys. It is more PC to do cartoon communists than nazis.

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