who should be new pilot of serenity?

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STUBBS

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:04 PM

with wash suffering from his untimely death at the end of serenity, the position of pilot is vacant onboard serenity. if joss does eventually make a new series of firefly or another serenity movie, which actor (or actress) should be the new pilot?
Try to think of suitable actors, maybe even character actors. dont be scared to come up with a radical choice.
my nomination is- RYAN REYNOLDS. he has perfect comic timing, but can also be seen as heroic if required. if you dont know him check out two guys and a girl or Blade Trinity.
of course, both mal and river fly serenity at the end of the film, so they are possible choices.
see who you can come up with

Stubbs

DAVESHAYNE

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:06 PM

Well River is the most likely candidate. Since she clearly has an aptitude.

David

"A lot of people are asking me, you know, what exactly is Firefly? It's a tv show you morons!" - Joss Whedon

COPILOT

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:11 PM

I agree River is a good choice it just depends on how stable she is now. I hope she doesn't wander off and kill the whole crew cause the wall is pretty. Anyway maybe Mal should keep flying with her for awhile just to be safe.

An I carried such a torch

ROB150185

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:28 PM

I'd pay good money to see what Jayne would be capable of, pilot-wise.

That'd be a hoot!

I'll be in my bunk...

ISAACSHEPHERD

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:34 PM

I think River would probably be the pilot at least for a while but I think Joss may actually either have one of the current crew either learn to fly or more likely hire new crew.
I can't begin to guess who would make a good pilot. One actor that I think is usually overlooked is Ewan McGregor. I don't think he'd play a Wash-like character but something completely different. Just a thought I suppose. I would imagine though that the crew would need someone light hearted who could make the crew laugh even in worst circumstances to keep the morale up.
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KINROEDARKSTONE

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 6:48 PM

What about John Cho from "Harold and Kumar go to White Castle", to add that Asian element. The guy has shiny comedic timing. Maybe.

RABBIT2

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 7:26 PM

Well we know already that Inara can fly a shuttle and it just might be a good excuse for her to stay on the ship.

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SHINY1

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 7:28 PM

I agree that River is the best candidate, but it's the future, can't they just clone Wash? They would have to dig him up first, or maybe use a hair from his hairbrush to clone him.

I love my captain

ALLIANCESNIPER

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 7:40 PM

Wouldn't it be something if the new pilot were Inara? However, I don't think she nor the captain could handle their feelings in this relationship without some major event happening between them, most likely one that tears them apart emotionally from each other. However, then the fun tension between the captain and Inara wouldn't be around...

Hell, Mark Hamil might make a good pilot, now that he looks the part ;)

RABBIT2

Tuesday, March 21, 2006 7:44 PM

Can`t clone from hair I`m afaid, no DNA.

I`ll bet it costs an arm and a leg to clone people in the `verse anyway.

Now just suppose Zoe is pregnant with Wash`s child. Not entirely implausable considering they were arguing about it during the episode `Heart of Gold`.
Presumably, any sequel will take place a year or two after the events in `Serenity`.
Having a young kid in tow might make for some interesting plot twists dont you think?
Might even be a justification for Wash to appear as a flashback.

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TROUBLESOMEFOOD

Wednesday, March 22, 2006 7:05 PM

On a new series or miniseries, they would probably want to add both a new pilot and a new passenger. (You could do a movie sequel differently.) One could be the comedian and one could be the reality-check mysterious Mal's-conscience do-gooder (replacing Book), but there's no reason the passenger couldn't be funny and the new pilot more like the Shepherd. Unless Inara becomes Mal's conscience, in which case the pilot could be a companion. No. Ok.

Someone Mal and Zoe served with in the war, Tracey's age, who can develop into a love interest for River. (The storylines! The severe looks from Simon!) Maybe James Badge Dale, the guy who played Chase on 24 and has been on CSI a few times.

SOFI

Wednesday, March 22, 2006 9:12 PM

i like the wash-zoe baby idea! especially if there were flashbacks... surely the baby talk was for a reason!
think river is likely to be a bit too unstable for flying all the time, but you never know. new character will probably be necessary to do the funny wash-like comments. *sniff* miss him so bad!

JOHNBOY

Wednesday, March 22, 2006 10:40 PM

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Originally posted by Rob150185:
I'd pay good money to see what Jayne would be capable of, pilot-wise.

That'd be a hoot!

Not if the Serenity walk-through on my Aussie DVD is any indication - the last second shows Jayne grabbing the controls, and it *does* become the last second!

But a pilot? What's wrong with Mal flying the ship? It is his ship, after all.

Cheers,
Johnboy

EARLYSUMMER

Thursday, March 23, 2006 3:45 AM

Besser becomes the new pilot of Serenity. After his failure as a mechanic, he gets the notion to become a pilot and meets up with the crew once again. Much comic hilarity ensues, including his ultimate mission to get Kaylee alone in the engine room.

"Genius, nobody's ever called me that before"

NUCLEARDAY

Thursday, March 23, 2006 5:30 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Stubbs:
my nomination is- RYAN REYNOLDS. he has perfect comic timing, but can also be seen as heroic if required. if you dont know him check out two guys and a girl or Blade Trinity.

lol... Nathan was on that show wasn't he? Ryan Reynolds could be 'verse-worthy. I always want to really not like that guy for some reason, but the jack-hat continues to elude my wrath. Frell, I even liked Blade Trinity ;p

Personally, I sort of wonder if Joss has pared down the crew a bit in preparation for the sequel... Easier to cram more character development into two hours with fewer characters, I'd imagine. Though if (I mean, WHEN!!! :) we get a new series...

But yeah, Mal and River seem rather capable of flying the ship. River'd be my choice of pilot in a pinch, though something tells me it could be a bit... stressful to watch her fly. Everyone has that friend that's a bit too "confident" behind the wheel of a car, where you sort of hang on for dear life and hope you make it out alive :)

She's got that whole 'savant' thing going on, so I can see her coming in too fast for a landing, cutting the corners too tight, etc. Of course always handling Serenity with perfect grace and balance, but also managing to give Mal a burning ulcer and Kaylee a stress disorder :)

My pick for a new pilot: Michael Richards (well not seriously, but it'd be funny :) or... actually... Jack Black?

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GREATBLACKTHORN

Thursday, March 23, 2006 5:39 PM

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Originally posted by Rabbit2:
Can`t clone from hair I`m afaid, no DNA.

I`ll bet it costs an arm and a leg to clone people in the `verse anyway.

Now just suppose Zoe is pregnant with Wash`s child. Not entirely implausable considering they were arguing about it during the episode `Heart of Gold`.
Presumably, any sequel will take place a year or two after the events in `Serenity`.
Having a young kid in tow might make for some interesting plot twists dont you think?
Might even be a justification for Wash to appear as a flashback.

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Me: Don`t crash?

Errm...I really can't see a child flying the ship...And I REALLY don't want a token kid in it...

I like the River love interest idea, or simply, River. If she's a reader, surely that would be useful for dodging those inevitable gorram Reaver/Alliance encounters.

She'll turn you in before you can say "Don't turn me in...lady..."

ACRAZYIVAN

Thursday, March 23, 2006 5:44 PM

I'm gonna have to say River. Not only is she clearly smart enough to understand the workings of a ship - but she is psychic. That's gotta help with the reaction time. I think she might even have the same love for the ship that Wash had and Mal talks to her about at the end of the BDM. Serenity is really the only real home she's ever known and been connected to.

Just my two cents.

Keep on flyin'

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ENGINEANGEL

Thursday, March 23, 2006 5:49 PM

river would be the best choice cause she has the aptitude and would then have a place in the crew. So yes, river will probably be pilot for a while....that is until wash comes back (and yes, he is coming back)

EngineAngel

GREATBLACKTHORN

Thursday, March 23, 2006 5:52 PM

I don't think we'd really have to worry about the Wash absence...

I think if there is gonna be another series, it will be before Serenity, in order to show how exactly River was captured again, and to continue the Blue Sun storyline.

She'll turn you in before you can say "Don't turn me in...lady..."

TIGER

Thursday, March 23, 2006 6:10 PM

In the unlikely event we ever see the Firefly 'verse on screen again, I seriously doubt Joss would add any new characters. Nine people is a lot to juggle (even though he did a great job at it) he'd probably appreciate keeping the number low!

As for the pilot, it would definitely be River. The movie pretty clearly set her up for it, and with a bit of supervision, she'd be great. Plus, now that she's not being chased by the Alliance any more, she needs a purpose in the narrative.

FLIPDOG

Thursday, March 23, 2006 7:43 PM

Blasphemy! Never see the 'verse again...for shame.

Anyways, I think River will most likely pick up the slack, with some help from Mal.

However, no one knows if River's being chased by the alliance anymore. The Op simply said that he didn't know. Regardless, it would help the crew if the pilot knew ahead of time that an alliance ship was bearing down on them. I doubt we'll see anyone added to the cast.

In addition, I like the theory that Wash will return at some point as a 'ghost' that only River can see/sense. Joss has said many times that Alan's character may be dead, but that doesn't mean he's fininshed with FF/Serenity for good and he will return in one way or another.

POEANDFAITH

Thursday, March 23, 2006 8:08 PM

I've two directions I'd prefer the sequel going. The first is, of course, a prequel. So we can have the original cast back, maybe something with Book's storyline and why he left, a transport of some amazing swiped cargo into the hands of a new separatist group? I dunno. I don't write fer 'em. But a prequel, yes.

The other idea is set several years after the movie when the Alliance rebellion fever is sweeping the galaxy again, since everyone would be in an uproar over what was revealed...With Zoe settled down for the time on some backwater planet raising Wash Junior, River piloting, since her quick reflexes and instincts would be well suited...with Mal standing over, taking the helm to perform the amazing tricks he learned from Wash, Crazy Ivans and basket-weaving and the like. I don't think any permanent people should be added to Serenity's crew. Maybe some old war buddies who go their own way in the end.

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Thursday, March 23, 2006 8:39 PM

I've been mulling this over, and have come up with this, a character of my own creation:

A young man with the extremely unlikely name of Diamonds Coinspinner will someone join the crew through helping them with a job on Persephone. He is a gambler and kleptomaniac, and is played by Jake Gyllenhall, or some other twenty-something actor. He will become River's love interest.

I think a little chaos is in order.

TROUBLESOMEFOOD

Thursday, March 23, 2006 9:26 PM

I can't imagine this topic hasn't been covered somewhere already, but speaking of a love interest for River, I wonder if it would be a positive or a negative to be involved with a psychic. On the one hand she'd never once misunderstand you when you accidentally say something stupid you didn't mean. But on the other hand... she could read your mind.

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WASHHEAD

Friday, March 24, 2006 3:23 AM

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Originally posted by Shiny1:
I agree that River is the best candidate, but it's the future, can't they just clone Wash? They would have to dig him up first, or maybe use a hair from his hairbrush to clone him.

I love my captain

Thank you for bringing that up cause i have a very good idea for new episodes i was thinking that the alliance to get to Mal, offer a greef stricken Zoe a chance to see her husband by cloning him but by selling out Mal to them to do so, we all know from Niscas space station that she will give up Mal for Wash i a hart beat.. and I have a question on one thing i have been reading in the room, Rivers love interest, why cant it be Jayne? now befor every one gets cray over this think about it, River can hear what everyone is thinking and im sure she hates that but from what i have been seeing Jayne always speaks the truth exsept of course when he is trying to double cross the crew and he knows not to try that again we all know!I am sure she would fall for him because she dosent have to read his mind to find out what he is thinking cause he will just blirt it out any way. So why cant they hook up of corse there is a huge age diffence but come on its Jayne! and we know he dont care and we also know that he wouldent give a rats ass what Simon thought of all this so why can't it happen? even if I am dead wronge on this ya got to admit that whould make a great twist in the series

"What a Whiner"

NOSADSEVEN

Friday, March 24, 2006 5:02 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by GreatBlackthorn:
I think if there is gonna be another series, it will be before Serenity, in order to show how exactly River was captured again, and to continue the Blue Sun storyline.

Just an FYI, River wasn't captured again, the scene was a new view of the 'original' escape from the academy.

As for the pilot - definately River. It would be just like 'unpredictable' Mal to have a crazy psychic flying the boat. It's not logical, not entirely rational, but then neither was naming the ship "Serenity".

Mal knows people; he knows how to motivate people. He would know that River as pilot would not only fill a practical vacancy, but an emotional one as well - helping her to be that whole person, not just a weapon; helping the crew to carry through their ordeal by maintaining what remains of their 'family', moving foward together, without any outside intrusion. Sure, there'd be a certain amount of risk involved (and likely a bit of indigestion), but that's already the life they are living.

Plus, think of the hi-larity that could ensue.

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GREATBLACKTHORN

Friday, March 24, 2006 3:09 PM

You sir, are incorrect, for the following reasons:

1.
Simon didn't capture River himself, he used money and an underground movement to capture her.

2.
They escape on Serenity, (you can see it fly off from the top of the hatch, with exactly the same method used in "The Train Job") yet they first got on Serenity in Persephone, when River was in her cryo-chamber. Therefore, they were already crew members, so River must have been recaptured.

So there is no reason why any future Firefly projects can't be before the BDM, and can't include Wash and Book.

She'll turn you in before you can say "Don't turn me in...lady..."

ZORPRIME01

Friday, March 24, 2006 3:12 PM

Seems pretty obvious that River is intended to be the new pilot. And it makes sense, considering that she didn't much of a have a role in the crew until that point. Aside from being a crazy killer-woman, of course.

If wishes were horses, we'd all be eatin' steak.

WHOME

Friday, March 24, 2006 8:06 PM

Me! I should be the new pilot! *zoom*

Okay, River can be the pilot. ("A big chunk of ship is about to fall off." "No it's not!" *kachunk* "Told you so.")

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i like the wash-zoe baby idea! especially if there were flashbacks... surely the baby talk was for a reason!

Y'know, I was thinkin' that meself. They have the doctor aboard, and the crew's something like a big, weird family, and wouldn't River make a great nanny? ("The baby's hungry." "No she's not." *babycries* "Told you so.")
Really, it would be an interesting arc for bad-ass Zoe. I think we'd see a lot of her hidden, complicated layers if she were to find out that she got pregnant the last time she was with Wash. ("I can do this! It's my job!" "Zoe, you're 8 months pregnant." "So what? Here, hold my laser gun while I use the bathroom.")

NOSADSEVEN

Friday, March 24, 2006 8:13 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by GreatBlackthorn:
You sir, are incorrect, for the following reasons:

1.
Simon didn't capture River himself, he used money and an underground movement to capture her.

2.
They escape on Serenity, (you can see it fly off from the top of the hatch, with exactly the same method used in "The Train Job") yet they first got on Serenity in Persephone, when River was in her cryo-chamber. Therefore, they were already crew members, so River must have been recaptured.

So there is no reason why any future Firefly projects can't be before the BDM, and can't include Wash and Book.

*sigh*

Well, there is not much point in arguing what is fact, but you're new here (Welcome, BTW!), and your interpretation is not unreasonable or uncommon (edit: though it is wrong).

From an Aussie Q&A session:

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Question: Hi Joss. I was just wondering, a bit of a discrepency I might have noticed in the series and in the film. In the series, it is implied that River was smuggled *to* Simon in that chyrogenic box, yet in this movie we've seen him rescuing her. Is that just something you had to put in the plot to make it make sense to people who have never seen the series or did I just--

JOSS: -- Man, I haven't even noticed that (laughs). It is the one place where I broke cannon, because I started to write the movie with people we have never met, breaking the material out, and I thought "My God, this is uninvolving" and realised I had to switch it for the movie to make it Simon himself who broke her out. So. My fan wank goes out as follows, he was lying about when he said other people broke her out, and I haven't gotten why yet... Im working on it.

source link:
http://www.serenitymovie.com.au/viewtopic.php?t=766

But I totally agree that there's no reason (beyond Joss's own preferences) that future projects cannot take place prior to the BDM. In fact, the next comic book run is supposedly to be set during that period.

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STORYMARK

Friday, March 24, 2006 8:19 PM

I thought it was pretty clear from the BDM that River was the new pilot.

Though, if the 'verse continues, I would imagine we'll meet a new crew member, I just don't think they'll be pilot. Bringing in a new character opens up a lot of opprotunities for new plots, relationships and character interactions. Just bringing in a "new Wash" (either a clone or a simmilar character) would serve little purpose.

And on another note, I can't believe there are still people who think River was re-captured, or that Serenity was the ship in the opening escape. Jeez folks, Joss shot that one down quite a while ago. It's a flashback. Yes, is contradicts things said in the pilot to a degree, but those inconsistencies can be justified pretty easily. That was River's original, and only escape from the Alliance. Deal and move on.

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RAE

Friday, March 24, 2006 8:55 PM

Maybe it's just wishful thinking, but.... I can see a scenerio like this:

River still holds a lot of secrets that the alliance does not want out. Also, as long as she's on the loose, she's a danger to them, if for no other reason than she is a witness/product of what they have done.

So, the Alliance goes to Miranda, finds Wash's body, and clones him. But, they, being the purplebelly scum that they are, tamper with him, programing him as a spy. So, when he rejoins our heroes, he is actually an alliance spy, probably without even knowing it. This can lead to all sorts of adventures, including one where they finally realize what is going on, fix his brain, and we have our favorite pilot back

Rae

STORYMARK

Friday, March 24, 2006 9:05 PM

'Cept clones don't get the memories of the original.

Joss has written one clone story so far (Alien 4), and had to stretch for a way to explain Ripley's clone having memories - which was tied to Alien DNA, and the chemical/ancestral memory sometimes found in insects. And even then, she had only spotty memories.

And given how that one turned out, I don't expect Joss is in a hurry to write another clone story.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

WHOME

Friday, March 24, 2006 10:14 PM

NoSadSeven said:

Quote:
They escape on Serenity, (you can see it fly off from the top of the hatch, with exactly the same method used in "The Train Job") yet they first got on Serenity in Persephone, when River was in her cryo-chamber. Therefore, they were already crew members, so River must have been recaptured.

Nope- that wasn't Serenity. (I did assume it was, too, but I hadn't seen Firefly yet!) I know I read an article somewhere that had Joss stating that it was definitely not Serenity. After I got the backstory, I assumed that the ship belonged to the "underground" that helped Simon break River out. If Joss said that Simon lied about the underground, then so be it, but he still had to pay someone to fly that ship!

But it's still plausible that the ship belonged to the underground resistance, and that Simon stuck River in the box so she wouldn't be seen until they were far away from the academy. (Or, to confuse anyone who was looking for a fugitive brother and sister, Simon went to whatever planet that was on his own, and the underground shipped River to him... but that's needlessly complicated.) That's my fan wank!

GREATBLACKTHORN

Friday, March 24, 2006 10:15 PM

Art is liable to interpretation, and my interpreation makes me happy...So...Yeah...>_>

She'll turn you in before you can say "Don't turn me in...lady..."

NOSADSEVEN

Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:12 AM

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Originally posted by WhoMe:
NoSadSeven said:

Actually, GreatBlackthorn said. I was just quoting (and refuting).

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If Joss said that Simon lied about the underground, then so be it, but he still had to pay someone to fly that ship!

I believe the implication was that he lied (by omission) about the extent of his personal involvement, not the underground entirely, so...yeah. Exactly right. I subscribe to the same fanwank you do.

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RUXTON

Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:34 AM

Oughta be a man, methinks. And the first guy who comes to mind is Chris Gorham (Jake 2.0).

CAB1729

Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:52 AM

I agree about River. She has the aptitude and with her learning curve was probably better at flying than Mal or Zoe within a week of the end scene.

But I also think we need another character, if not another BDH. With both Book and Wash gone, we've lost Mal's outside conscience. Both of those characters were used at one time or another to provide a check on his more vengeful instincts. Book was great at it. I thought Wash was a little more uncomfortable in that role in the movie. Too much "But Mal", not enough "fry cook opportunity".

Plus we need somebody who can take Zoe's place for off-ship adventures cuz no way they're going to leave River alone in charge of the ship. Even with Kaylee and Simon on board - definitely not enough "holding the fort" in their psyches. So how about another former Browncoat comrade of Mal's? Maybe not in the same unit but also a survivor of Serenity Valley? Someone who was changed opposite to Mal - became more certain of a God rather than less. And who is reliable enuf to either take with or leave back, but who has his own agenda nowadays. Someone similar to a younger JT Walsh. Or maybe Luke Wilson, who can be serious or comic as the need arises.

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Saturday, March 25, 2006 10:20 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Rob150185:
I'd pay good money to see what Jayne would be capable of, pilot-wise.

That'd be a hoot!

LOL. too many buttons for Jayne

MIKEC

Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:01 PM

the ship that rescued simon and river isn't the serenity, it lacks the 2 side engines and it's too small.

i thought it was the serenity too until i started watching firefly.

DONCOAT

Monday, March 27, 2006 4:17 PM

Back to the original topic...

How about Saffron as the new pilot? She's got the skills and has, er, worked with the crew before.

Having her aboard would certainly add a whole new level of complications for Mal and Co. If you thought Jayne was a loose cannon, well, he'd be Mr. Reliable compared to Our Mrs. Reynolds.

Then there would be all the 'ship possibilities. Inara would pretty much have to stay on just to make sure Mal didn't fall under Saff's spell again. Or, how about Jayne/Saff? He was willing to trade Vera for her...

Of course, Christina wouldn't be too hard on the eyes. And her character could add a certain kind of humor. Not the same as Wash, of course, but edgier and more sardonic. "'Night, sweetie!"

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SHINYSWEETCHEEKS

Monday, March 27, 2006 4:28 PM

I agree that Ryan Reynolds would be a good choice. He's got similar comic swangango as Wash did.. but with opposite personality ( wash was more reserved... Ryan cant help but be as was stated in "Waiting" the "Cool Guy" ) I could see Ryan and Mal going head to head a bit. It could be funny...

Now, for the sake of being nestagic... I liked how River and Mal were piloting at the end of the movie... Perhaps River would be a good pilot.. if we can get her meds straight that is! LOL

6250THOMAS

Tuesday, March 28, 2006 4:39 AM

Ah, yes, Saffron. I was also going to suggest her, also. She obviously knew the ship well. But, and this is a big but, she can't be trusted. Besides, I think she works better as a continuing thorn is Mal's saddle, turning up again and again to cause him and the crew more than a little grief, beating Mal & Co. to the prizes (the same way Indiana Jones work was frequently foiled). The last we saw of her was in the dumpster, so she could have come back in many more episodes. I sure wouldn't mind seeing more of her .... a lot more, actually....
Tom

"I'm in."

ZZETTA13

Tuesday, March 28, 2006 5:17 AM

First of all since the job is open Joss could write in any number of people that he wanted to fill in the duty.

Since the question was put to the fan forum its one I can't resist. I was going to say Tom Cruise would make a good pilot since he did such a great job flying F-15s in that movie he did some time back about fighter aces. But then I remembered that Wash had a sense of humor and if Tom is lacking in this department Wash's toy dinosaurs may just end up out the window.

Its funny but it makes perfect sense what Kinrocdarkstone posted. John Cho would likely get my vote for the job too. After all with the morfing of US and china societies where are all the asian folk?

Although Captain Mal could pilot Serenity,that wouldn't leave much room to command. River would be and excellent driver 75% of the time. What about the other 25% when shes crazy. You know a blind guy would be a pretty good driver on a strait road. It's the curved ones that would kill ya.

FLIPDOG

Tuesday, March 28, 2006 7:04 PM

Okay, this is getting a little disenheartening. How many of are actually film-goers who know and appreciate good cinema? And how many of you [sound like/are] are 13-15 yr old girls with a hollywood crush on some 'cute' actor. Or are guys basing your assumptions on a character or two that a certain actor has played. You're all talking about somewhat well known, film actors. Look at who is in the show and the movie. The only big-ish name is Ron Glass. And we're talking low-budget film-making here (which is part of the reason its so good). Oh, and the character development..gee, what a novel idea.

Sorry to be blunt, but if this is what the browncoat world is turning in to? And how many of you have actually watched the movie with commentary? Joss says there that its the first (and only) escape.

Note: This isn't directed at all of you. Some of you have had great, well thought-out ideas. But there's only so much from these boards that I can endure. Especially as of recent.

Prequel = decent idea
Jake Gyllenhal (or however the eff you spell his name) = BAD idea

If George Lucas got ahold of it...you know what the sequel would be? Serenity II: The Legend if Book's Gold.

WHOME

Tuesday, March 28, 2006 8:02 PM

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The only big-ish name is Ron Glass.

Not true. Nathan Fillion was already well known to people who watched One Life to Live!

CAB1729

Tuesday, March 28, 2006 8:57 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by FlipDog:
Sorry to be blunt, but if this is what the browncoat world is turning in to? And how many of you have actually watched the movie with commentary? Joss says there that its the first (and only) escape.

Note: This isn't directed at all of you. Some of you have had great, well thought-out ideas. But there's only so much from these boards that I can endure. Especially as of recent.

To this escape ship question again: Besides the whole before-they-even-met-Mal issue - Not Serenity! The closest you can get is maybe it's a similar shuttle to Serenity's but it's nowhere near big enuf to be a Firefly. My thought was that it was just a generic small planetary craft.

And no, this isn't what the browncoat world is turning into. Most long-time browncoats hang out on specific boards or even in specific forums, if not specific threads, cuz that's where their friends hang out. I've gotten the impression that not that many bother with stuff like this because it's been discussed ad nauseum previously. Search doesn't find everything - and some of the newer people are enthusiastic enuf to not bother checking what's come before.

Enthusiasm is not a bad thing. In fact, it's what keeps the browncoat 'verse going. So please try to make allowances for the newbs - cuz hopefully there will always be some around!

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Calvin: Too few role models.

ZZETTA13

Wednesday, March 29, 2006 4:00 AM

hey guys .Just felt the need to post another round on the ongoing actor/pilot questions.

First,I'm not a movie buff but if I see one that I like and am able to get my paws on the dvd I "can" say that I watch it more than twice.

Joss W. has been in show buisness long enough to know what he wants and what hes looking for. If Wash is replaced with another driver, then its a pretty sure bet JW has gotten a very good replacement.

Now just from my own experience,I'd enjoyed playing the game Tomb Raider when it first came out. When I heard they were making a movie staring Angelina Jolie I said "No way. Shes not right for the part." Well she did a good job and the box office proved me wrong. She brought in some big bucks.

Now Serenity has become s favorite of mine and I wouldn't change a thing about it, but "what if" Brad Pitt had played the operative instead of Chiwetel Ejiofor(who did a fantastic job by the way) What would the box office have been?

I do understand JW choices and Serenity is the 10 character and all but to get Firefly going again it may take a big name to jumpstart Serenity2 the Movie. Adding 100 new fans per movie won't do it. Several thousand would be better. I'm not saying put a big name in the pilots seat. Heck, make him(or her) one of the Blue Hands. This is just an opinion and something to think about and discuss. It can be debated and the ball tossed back and forth, in a civilized manner. Any and all can post their points and I respect that. Its the way it should be and really does it matter what actors come in and shift to the open spots as long as we get another Movie or tv deal out of it, its Ok by me.

SHINYSWEETCHEEKS

Wednesday, March 29, 2006 5:38 PM

Quote:

And no, this isn't what the browncoat world is turning into. Most long-time browncoats hang out on specific boards or even in specific forums, if not specific threads, cuz that's where their friends hang out. I've gotten the impression that not that many bother with stuff like this because it's been discussed ad nauseum previously. Search doesn't find everything - and some of the newer people are enthusiastic enuf to not bother checking what's come before.

Enthusiasm is not a bad thing. In fact, it's what keeps the browncoat 'verse going. So please try to make allowances for the newbs - cuz hopefully there will always be some around!

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Calvin: Too few role models.

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OURMRSWASHBURNE

Friday, March 31, 2006 5:19 PM

New pilot... Hmmmm. I think Joss may do his crazy ass fabulous thing and bring Wash back as a disembodied ghost voice / died-and-got-better-but-came-back-wrong type thing

Or, he could have River make a Genius-Built Sex-and-Flying-but-Not-at-The-Same-Time Wash Robot, a la Buffy.

Or hows about this...

Wash loved that ship. I reckon part of him will always be in that ship. Now, River can hear stuff that isnt always heard. So, who better to guide her if she were the new pilot? I'm not meaning like a Ben Kenobi type scenario, that would be bad, but just - it would be nice if she 'felt' Wash around her sometimes.

I mean that in the least dirty way possible, of course.

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Correction. I'll be UNDER Wash's bunk, making sure Zoe doesnt see me.

MILFORD

Saturday, April 1, 2006 2:56 AM

First of all, I want everyone to know that I've been a loyal browncoat since before the pilot. That being said, I don't think they'll replace Wash or Book. IF someone had to pass on, and I know we want all our BDH's to live happily ever after but they can't, then it made sense from a narrative perspective to take out Wash and Book. They were the least pivotal to the central Mal/River/Mianda story. You can't do it without Mal or River, you can't have River without Simon, you can't have Simon without Kaylee, and Mal isn't the same tense guy without Jayne. BUT, you CAN have Zoe without Wash because of her relationship wth Mal. And you can have them all without Book. They were perfect television series characters, but not great movie characters. So, that being said, I think Joss knew what he was doing and like NEUCLEARDAY said, he was parsing down the crew for a sequel. And WHEN they return to the small screen, they'll have more time to devote to others.

BUT, should they need a new pilot, I'm voting for River. Think she could stay under Mal's skin enough to keep things interesting.

let me say that I thi- I have no idea where this sentence was going. I'm not sure why I typed these words at all. Just looked today and noticed that I left this hanging. What a boob.

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SILENCE

Saturday, April 1, 2006 3:32 AM

can't replace Wash.

Listen, if you got guests I can come back later.

MILFORD

Saturday, April 1, 2006 7:55 PM

Correctamundo, Silence, nor should you. Anyone else would just be a pale reflection of comedy perfection.

Hey, that sounded like Jesse Jackson.

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CAPTAINJOSH06

Sunday, April 2, 2006 7:22 PM

I believe a new character altogether. Maybe someone who is too humble about himself or herself, but infact has real talent for piloting a ship, just doesnt realise it.
I think River should stay single and mysterious.
Maybe add a new character to replace book, maybe someone who knew Shep.Book and wants to track down his old friend, maybe they even reveal that secret that the old Shep.. had been keeping.
Or maybe bring that guy, darn i can never remember his name, the guy who was mechanic before Kaylee, who we see........with her in the engine room. Maybe he comes back and there is then a compitition between hom and Simon for Kaylee's love.

Greatz!
CaptainJosh

SHINYSWEETCHEEKS

Monday, April 3, 2006 5:16 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by CaptainJosh06:
I believe a new character altogether. Maybe someone who is too humble about himself or herself, but infact has real talent for piloting a ship, just doesnt realise it.
I think River should stay single and mysterious.
Maybe add a new character to replace book, maybe someone who knew Shep.Book and wants to track down his old friend, maybe they even reveal that secret that the old Shep.. had been keeping.
Or maybe bring that guy, darn i can never remember his name, the guy who was mechanic before Kaylee, who we see........with her in the engine room. Maybe he comes back and there is then a compitition between hom and Simon for Kaylee's love.

Greatz!
CaptainJosh

HAHA I never thought about bringing the old mechanic back! wow, what a soap opera twist to the whole thing.... I think Id watch that with glued eyes to the tele.
**me poders something very interesting**

Yes sir... Captain TIGHT PANTS

BELLONA

Monday, April 3, 2006 5:35 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by GreatBlackthorn:
2.
They escape on Serenity, (you can see it fly off from the top of the hatch, with exactly the same method used in "The Train Job") yet they first got on Serenity in Persephone, when River was in her cryo-chamber. Therefore, they were already crew members, so River must have been recaptured.

So there is no reason why any future Firefly projects can't be before the BDM, and can't include Wash and Book.

ah, no no no no...there's conceptual art of simon's escape ship in the visual companion. it's not Serenity, 'cause that would make the rest of the movie completely nonsensical. though it would've been completely shiny if they did re-rescue her seeing as it would have ensured wash's survival *sigh* if only...

anyway, my nomination for the new pilot: the operative. hey, he's in need of a job and he's pretty discreet *looks around* anyone? no? oh, well...

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GUYWHOWANTSAFIREFLYOFHISOWN

Monday, April 3, 2006 5:52 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by troublesomefood:
On a new series or miniseries, they would probably want to add both a new pilot and a new passenger. (You could do a movie sequel differently.) One could be the comedian and one could be the reality-check mysterious Mal's-conscience do-gooder (replacing Book), but there's no reason the passenger couldn't be funny and the new pilot more like the Shepherd. Unless Inara becomes Mal's conscience, in which case the pilot could be a companion. No. Ok.

Someone Mal and Zoe served with in the war, Tracey's age, who can develop into a love interest for River. (The storylines! The severe looks from Simon!) Maybe James Badge Dale, the guy who played Chase on 24 and has been on CSI a few times.

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CAPTAINJOSH06

Tuesday, April 4, 2006 7:59 PM

Hmmm, the operative, i think Mal has too much.....none friendly fealings towards him.
I dont think that someone too famous at the wheel would do, i steals the film or series....depending on what Joss has in mind from the main character(s)
...well the ones that are left.

Greatz!
CaptainJosh

SPOOTY

Thursday, April 13, 2006 2:38 PM

I for one think it would be an interesting arc to see Zoe slowly bowing out (not for good of course!) gradually over Season 2 due to a pregnancy.

River and Mal flying it sounds fun but I think that the reintroduction of YoSaffBridge, maybe with some interesting two parter about her past or a decision for her to 'give up' (yeah right :P) her life of thieving. Would be interesting seeing as Zoe could be out the picture towards the end to see Mal become more reliant on River and YSB as a Fighter or Pilot. YSB could also give Jayne some fiesty female interest too hehe :P Also some comic moments about trust and the link could be derived.

Maybe not the strongest suggestion for an entire series but would be a laugh for a few episodes, plus seeing more of YSB on screen ain't much of a chore ;)

EPEYON

Friday, April 14, 2006 10:19 PM

I thought of the Operative too, but you have to take into account that he's worse than River when it comes to being pyscho. But I think no new character is really needed. There's enough emotional stuff with Wash and Book dying to keep a second season going. River being the pilot would be interesting, and probably a good choice. It seems to me that she does better in situations where everything is strait forward, aim at the head to kill, take off the wrappers to hide, move feet like this to dance. And flying's all about making a certain set of changes to get around something. It's like a treatment for her, something simple not requiring a lot of uncertanties.

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LOSIDEN

Saturday, April 15, 2006 10:56 PM

i'm new to this site as of today, are their really going to be a new series or movie ?? just saw the movie and the first 3 episodes and i'm HOOKED. thanks folks !

KAYLEESTHEGREATEST

Monday, April 17, 2006 4:05 PM

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BUK

Monday, April 17, 2006 7:40 PM

Well River and Mal seem perfectly capable of doing the flying, and since Annara is most likely staying on serenity and can fly I expect they will think of some sort of rota system of who gets to fly.

VINTERDRAKEN

Monday, April 24, 2006 2:46 AM

If I remember correctly Mal isnt perticulary good at flying. And the end scene of BDM gives me the impression that River will atleast be helping him pilot in the future.
And if they would hire a new pilot, well I wouldnt say no to the job
But on a more realistic level I think that I could see Rodney Rowland or James Marsters playing a Pilot onboard Serenity.

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LAWGSKRAK

Wednesday, May 17, 2006 12:14 AM

I've applied for the job, but I don't know if I'll get it.

Might have a personality clash with Mal.

MONKSDAD

Wednesday, May 17, 2006 12:49 AM

I think they should keep river as the pilot. there could be some great scenes with river flying all crazy or "how the hell did we get here from there" looks from mal, especially with all rivers crazy math skills

"And I think calling him that is an insult to the psychotic lowlife community."

WASHME

Saturday, May 27, 2006 6:32 AM

I think milford's right about the crew being parsed down.

However, it doesn't mean I'm any less bummed about Wash.

I just finished watching Serenity for the first time about an hour ago, and I about wanted to cry when Wash died, he was my favorite!

Ah, Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!

TRAVELER

Sunday, May 28, 2006 7:44 PM

I beleave Mal already made his choice at the end of the movie with his talk to River. He was obviously handing over the pilots seat to her. My impression is River will get healthier as time passes and learns to deal with her brain damage.

As for the show continuing I suspect they will move past Serenity and start a new ship and crew. May keep one or two of the originals to draw us fans to watch, but the series has ended and they will sweep the decks of the past.

I could see Inara remaining since she is typically not a participant in their exploits, "crimes". Who else may make it into future episodes would only be my wishful desires and that would be Kaylee who only sees the good in people. The rest would be killed off to prevent any idea of their return. Wash and Book are gone and we must carry on.

CHOO1701

Sunday, May 28, 2006 8:17 PM

I think they should get a new guy...goes River nealry crashed Mal's boat when she goes insane again for a brief time (thanks to the hands of Blue, i don't know). But yeah some-one who isn't a "Replacement Wash" (perhaps an ex-fighter pilot).

Either that or Adam just turns up to work randomly, and Joss decides to "work with it"

"Remember, always be yourself. Unless you suck."-Joss Whedon

CACHALOT

Sunday, May 28, 2006 9:51 PM

Okay, I have to put my 2 cents worth in.
First I think we have to think long term, at least one season (another movie would have to go in a different direction but we'll get to that another time).
So, here are my thoughts:
The series picks up some months later. The Alliance is spread thin as people are leaving the core planets to the outer rim since the broadcast in "Serenity". With all these new people on the frontier needing things moved, stolen, swapped etc., Serenity's crew are busier than ever. They have made enough money to even get a little "cabin" on an isolated moon for a hideout.
River has been flying Serenity and has been tinkering with her controls, automating systems, upgrading navigation and so on (think more thrilling aeorbatics). The crew has begun to drop their guard regarding the Alliance and their persuit of River. Unknow to them, the Alliance has exhumed Wash's body and cloned him so they could torture him for information.
I know you anti-clone guys are spitting but bear with me.
Since clone-Wash really has no idea how to find Mal, Blue Moon decides to ransom Wash to draw Mal and River out. Chaos ensues and they get Wash back. Figure 2 or 3 episodes to play out.
Questions arise about spying, implants and whatever to keep some tension going between Wash and Zoe.
Either way, flying is a full-time job and River can back Wash up and still kick ass when needed, Wash can get beat up some more and still quip away. I think it would work.

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VINTERDRAKEN

Sunday, May 28, 2006 10:16 PM

Guess that could work. Not really a fan of the whole "clone" concept but thats the best "clone-theory" ive heard sofar.

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TINKWITHTHIS

Tuesday, July 4, 2006 3:57 AM

Instead of cloning, couldn't Wash be brought back by using synthetic internal organs (wetware?) similar to that being smuggled by Mal & Zoe's buddy from the war?

"We Meddle"

MWAHAHA

Tuesday, July 4, 2006 9:36 PM

In the BDM, everything after "bullet to the brainpan" is a vision in the mind of River, which she then sets out to alter in her confounding way. The season two kick-off mini-series would begin at that point, allowing our BDH's to prevent the deaths of Book and Wash, as well as Mr. universe, Fanty and Mingo, etc., perhaps.

It's Occam's razor in the hands of Mr. Heinlein: "...then the boy fell out of bed and woke up."

For a sequal, on the other hand, Mal and River /have/ to pilot; Mal wouldn't stick some fella in Wash's seat, he couldn't do that to Zoe. /Especially/ if she's preggers.

Unless and only if the new pilot is already known to Zoe (and probably Mal): The War Buddy scenario.

I agree that GeekUSA's take on it is acceptable, except for the River-like abilities of his new pilot, Kyo. That part seems a bit much, though I enjoy his handling of it.

Also, it seems unlikely to me that any war buddy could be a potential love match for River, anybody her own age would have been too young to fight during the war.

As to The Clone Solution, I can only say /Fie!/ and ask this: Would you have sex with a clone of you?

Muh. Muh-huh. MwaHaHa!

Yeah, we're pretty much just giving each other significant glances and laughing incessantly.

CRUITHNE3753

Monday, July 17, 2006 4:22 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by earlysummer:
Besser becomes the new pilot of Serenity. After his failure as a mechanic, he gets the notion to become a pilot and meets up with the crew once again. Much comic hilarity ensues, including his ultimate mission to get Kaylee alone in the engine room.

"Genius, nobody's ever called me that before"

Simon and Bester facing off over her... punch-ups, and maybe some deliberate medical malpractice... especially with Simon having a bit more of an attitude, being less geeky than in the series.

Well I've seen Serenity now, so I can comment... even being "spoiled" on the Wash issue, I was still pretty shocked how sudden it was.

TRISTAN

Monday, July 17, 2006 4:29 PM

Haven't had time to read the whole thread, just bits and pieces...anyone mentioned Seth Green? He might just be the ticket.

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CRUITHNE3753

Monday, July 17, 2006 4:38 PM

I quite dig the idea of the new pilot being a fat, greasy pizza-gorging slob, with habits that nauseate the rest of the crew but they put up with him because he's so good at his job.

No cloning Wash, leave that to Certain Other Movie Quadrilogies, and no Wash-similar characters. You just have to accept he's gone.

And no prequel movie! Leave that to You-Know-What High-Budget Movie Trilogy and a Certain Ageing TV Series Franchise... The odd flashback scene or three, yes.

CRUITHNE3753

Monday, July 17, 2006 4:48 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by cachalot:
River has been flying Serenity and has been tinkering with her controls, automating systems, upgrading navigation and so on

Kaylee would be rather pissed off over that... she'd just have to shut up and put up... don't want to get River in a bad mood...

EDIT: Maybe not... different ends of the ship.

KENOBIUS

Monday, July 17, 2006 5:06 PM

I would glady step in and do it. Joss likes small budgets and I'd do it for cheap.

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XEYRA

Monday, July 17, 2006 6:19 PM

I like the idea of River as pilot (hence my signature). She's always been the odd-man/woman out, without a real purpose on the ship. Simon doctored, but River was the crazy traumatized girl, bringing more problems than before because of her status as fugitive and, well, her confused, crazy nature.

She didn't exactly pull her weight until Mal decided to take her on the Lilac job (well, except for that one time she outsmarted a bounty hunter that took everyone else out). Being a pilot for Serenity gives River a purpose on the ship, a job, a function that may actually ground her now that she's on the mend, that will allow her to pay her debt, you could say, to Mal and the crew.

Besides, do you recall those interesting promo pictures of River for Firefly, with her sitting in the pilot's chair? Foreshadowing?

Of course, whether or not she'd going to be trusted to fly Serenity might depend on whether she proves to be good at it (which she should, genius that she is) and can maintain a measure of sanity (which, post Serenity, might be easier for her, since she herself says she is "alright" or as much as she can ever be).

So, yes, I think River is going to be Serenity's pilot, as the movie seems to point that way, what with River "showing some aptitude" for it. :)

"People tell you things all the time, without talking. The way they move, the way they aren't talking." - River Tam

XEYRA

Monday, July 17, 2006 6:20 PM

I like the idea of River as pilot (noticeable if you look at my sig). She's always been the odd-man/woman out, without a real purpose on the ship. Simon doctored, but River was the crazy traumatized girl, bringing more problems than before because of her status as fugitive and, well, her confused, crazy nature.

She didn't exactly pull her weight until Mal decided to take her on the Lilac job (well, except for that one time she outsmarted a bounty hunter that took everyone else out). Being a pilot for Serenity gives River a purpose on the ship, a job, a function that may actually ground her now that she's on the mend, that will allow her to pay her debt, you could say, to Mal and the crew.

Besides, do you recall those interesting promo pictures of River for Firefly, with her sitting in the pilot's chair? Foreshadowing?

Of course, whether or not she'd going to be trusted to fly Serenity might depend on whether she proves to be good at it (which she should, genius that she is) and can maintain a measure of sanity (which, post Serenity, might be easier for her, since she herself says she is "alright" or as much as she can ever be).

So, yes, I think River is going to be Serenity's pilot, as the movie seems to point that way, what with River "showing some aptitude" for it. :)

"People tell you things all the time, without talking. The way they move, the way they aren't talking." - River Tam

CIOCCOLATA

Monday, July 17, 2006 6:42 PM

Analysing DNA from ancient strands of hair is a new tool for learning about the past, molecular archaeologists say.

I'm afraid that their is DNA in hair strands.
they are using it all the time all over the world.

CIOCCOLATA

Monday, July 17, 2006 6:43 PM

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Can`t clone from hair I`m afaid, no DNA.

I`ll bet it costs an arm and a leg to clone people in the `verse anyway.

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CRUITHNE3753

Monday, July 17, 2006 10:52 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by monksdad:
I think they should keep river as the pilot. there could be some great scenes with river flying all crazy or "how the hell did we get here from there" looks from mal, especially with all rivers crazy math skills

"And I think calling him that is an insult to the psychotic lowlife community."

(Pictures Serenity with a "learner" plate fixed to the back...)

Mal: "I want you to execute a three-point turn using forward and reverse thrusters..."

PEULSAR5

Monday, July 17, 2006 11:39 PM

ME!

XEYRA

Tuesday, July 18, 2006 12:05 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Cruithne3753:
Quote:
Originally posted by monksdad:
I think they should keep river as the pilot. there could be some great scenes with river flying all crazy or "how the hell did we get here from there" looks from mal, especially with all rivers crazy math skills

"And I think calling him that is an insult to the psychotic lowlife community."

(Pictures Serenity with a "learner" plate fixed to the back...)

Mal: "I want you to execute a three-point turn using forward and reverse thrusters..."

LMAO! That puts a whole perspective on things.

River: "Thank you, captain, but I don't need a back spaceship driver. Sit down and let me concentrate so we don't hit that asteroid..."

Mal: "What asteroid?"

"People tell you things all the time, without talking. The way they move, the way they aren't talking." - River Tam

LISSA37

Friday, July 21, 2006 1:10 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Xeyra:
Quote:
Originally posted by Cruithne3753:
Quote:
Originally posted by monksdad:
I think they should keep river as the pilot. there could be some great scenes with river flying all crazy or "how the hell did we get here from there" looks from mal, especially with all rivers crazy math skills

"And I think calling him that is an insult to the psychotic lowlife community."

(Pictures Serenity with a "learner" plate fixed to the back...)

Mal: "I want you to execute a three-point turn using forward and reverse thrusters..."

LMAO! That puts a whole perspective on things.

River: "Thank you, captain, but I don't need a back spaceship driver. Sit down and let me concentrate so we don't hit that asteroid..."

Mal: "What asteroid?"

"People tell you things all the time, without talking. The way they move, the way they aren't talking." - River Tam

LMAO Hilarious! I love it!

I completely agree with those who say it should remain Mal and River as copilots. Three Reasons:

1. It's funny (see above), which was always part of Wash's role, anyway.

2. The crew is already one tight little family as it is. Who needs or wants anyone else? I personally don't.

3. Replace Wash?! NO WAY! I would be heart-broken and I doubt I could ever come to like a new pilot.

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Friday, July 21, 2006 12:43 PM

isnt this the thread made by the troll? why isnt it in troll country? stubbs is the one who posted the porn!

Great! Now we can all sue Oceanic together!

ODDSBODSKINS

Friday, July 21, 2006 1:29 PM

bill bailey, or possibly simon pegg, either would be hilarious

TERRIFRIED

Friday, July 21, 2006 6:36 PM

badger decides to give up his petty thieving on persephone and joins the crew as their new pilot.

"Whoa......good Bible."

TERRIFRIED

Friday, July 21, 2006 6:36 PM

oops! double post.

THEMANTHEYCALLMATT

Saturday, July 22, 2006 1:25 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by terrifried:
badger decides to give up his petty thieving on persephone and joins the crew as their new pilot.

"Whoa......good Bible."

Nah... I can't see badger as a pilot. He's a talker, not a doer. He gets other people to do his things for him. All we've ever seen him do is walk and talk! I think he's pretty bright, but I'm thinking he doesn't have the lightning-fast reflexes to pull it off.

TRAVELER

Saturday, July 22, 2006 2:32 AM

When I watched the movie it was very apparent to me that River is going to pilot Serenity. Mal didn't give a discourse on the need to love the ship to anyone else but River. River may have had episodes but the Miranda ordeal has helped her and River has helped the crew. Remember what she did in "War Stories"? Killed three baddies in less time then it takes to bat an eye. She was the one who planned the demise of Early when everyone else was helpless in "Objects in Space".
Mal wasn't just blowing a lot of hot air with that speech about loving the ship. He was handing the controls over to River. River knows right from wrong and being free of that mind control those freaks were useing with subliminal messages has made River the perfect choice. I've also said this before. As pilot she will work a lot with Kaylee in repairing the ship just like Wash. And who does she play with most? It is Kaylee. Remember River teaseing Kaylee with the apple in "War Stories" and sitting on the floor playing jacks together at the end of "Objects in Space". Who better to help Kaylee work on the ship than River. Mal and Zoe probably can fly Serenity, but they hired Wash because it takes something special that they didn't have. With Wash gone River is the only one with that ability to feel the ships needs and what it can do.

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CAPTIANREAVER

Monday, July 31, 2006 5:40 PM

I have to agree with traveler i think river will pilot it, and i also think if they where to add someone new thay should put NO ONE!!!!!! i want wash back waaaaaaa

MILFORD

Monday, July 31, 2006 5:48 PM

I think, along with lots of people here, that it will be River. But I think there will be some friction there with Mal. Serenity is obviously Mal's baby, and the conflict he feels in turning her over to someone else would be entertaining. Especially someone loco like River.

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PROPHETESS89

Tuesday, August 8, 2006 9:08 AM

River would be the choice temporary replacement, but long-term I think they would need to find someone a little more predictable and a little less violent...

DAVESHAYNE

Tuesday, August 8, 2006 3:43 PM

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Originally posted by prophetess89:
River would be the choice temporary replacement, but long-term I think they would need to find someone a little more predictable and a little less violent...

But at the end of the BDM River is a little more predictable and a little less violent. She's dealt with the nightmares - at least the really grisly ones featuring reavers, "I'm OK. I'm OK." and thereby achieved a sense of peace she never had before and gained conscious control of her fighting reflexes, "My turn." She is no longer just a weapon that can be triggered.

David

"Not completely as well as the series of Firefly..." - From a review of Serenity at amazon.de

PROPHETESS89

Tuesday, August 8, 2006 8:39 PM

very true... I have a hard time imagining anyone else behind the wheel of serenity so, I am still sort of holding onto the hope that maybe wash survived? If he really is dead, then River would definitely be my first choice. she obviously knows what she's doing.

TERRI

Wednesday, August 9, 2006 5:54 AM

Of course Wash is comeing (sic) back! At least that's what I tell myself as I'm huddled in a little ball in the corner of my room. River is still, waaaay too unstable to be held responsible for piloting the whole ship, and handling communications (as Wash was apt to do). Anybody remotely funny would be a bad choice simply because fans would automatically compare them to Wash and it would be a disaster for everybody. I would imagine some fresh blood, who knows, but I doubt the position will be open for long. What with Wash's inexplicable, yet triumphant return. *whimper*

TERRI

Wednesday, August 9, 2006 5:55 AM

Of course Wash is comeing (sic) back! At least that's what I tell myself as I'm huddled in a little ball in the corner of my room. River is still, waaaay too unstable to be held responsible for piloting the whole ship, and handling communications (as Wash was apt to do). Anybody remotely funny would be a bad choice simply because fans would automatically compare them to Wash and it would be a disaster for everybody. I would imagine some fresh blood, who knows, but I doubt the position will be open for long. What with Wash's inexplicable, yet triumphant return. *whimper*

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