Firefly Fit Club: Week 2

POSTED BY: SigmaNunki
UPDATED: Monday, April 3, 2006 17:17
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SIGMANUNKI

Monday, March 27, 2006 6:44 PM (P)

Since I didn't see another week 2 thread, I thought I'd start one.

Previous week:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=18971

So, Sat we did grocery shopping, which intails walking 15 min both ways, one way, of course, carrying our groceries.

My weekly goal is the same as last. Workout mon-fri this week. As I can check off today, I've started out good

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"We're in a giant car heading into a brick wall at 100 miles/hr and everybody's arguing about where they want to sit."
-David Suzuki

BROWNCOAT1

Monday, March 27, 2006 7:58 PM (P)

Speaking of groceries, the wife & I decided to purchase healthier items for our meals. We have paid particular attention to cutting out most of the sweets, watching carbs, and eliminating a lot of starches.

We of course have had to be more creative w/ recipes, but so far so good.

__________________________________________

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

Richmond, VA & surrounding area Firefly Fans:

http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/richmondbrowncoats/

http://www.richmondbrowncoats.org

SERENITY28

Monday, March 27, 2006 8:00 PM (P)

lol i didnt notice there was a new thread might aswell post it here too :D

Hi guys im going to start this too im about 6,2' 240 pounds, just recenlty bought weights. but every time ive tried i keep not bothering, lol.

SIGMANUNKI

Monday, March 27, 2006 8:27 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by BrownCoat1:

Speaking of groceries, the wife & I decided to purchase healthier items for our meals. We have paid particular attention to cutting out most of the sweets, watching carbs, and eliminating a lot of starches.

We of course have had to be more creative w/ recipes, but so far so good.

My wife is German and apparently they eat differently over there. One can read that as, a whole lot healthier than I used to. Needless to say, shortly after we started living together, my diet changed somewhat

Now I actually find that I can't eat a lot of the things that I used to (eg McDonalds). They actually makes me nauseous now.

Have you tried Thai food? Very healthy and very very good! Also, quite easy to make

Just gotta watch how much curry/spices you put in

@Serenity28:
Welcome aboard

I've found these threads quite motivating. For instance, I wouldn't have worked out this morning if I didn't feel the need to report back

I hope these threads provide you with similar motivation. Even if you don't feel the need to report back to us regularly

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"We're in a giant car heading into a brick wall at 100 miles/hr and everybody's arguing about where they want to sit."
-David Suzuki

BROWNCOAT1

Tuesday, March 28, 2006 3:42 PM (P)

Ok, hit the gym again yesterday afternoon. Worked out on the weights for 35 minutes. Did cardio for 40 minutes; 20 on the bike w/ hills program & 20 on the treadmill @ 4.5 mph.

I'll weigh in again on Friday.

__________________________________________

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

Richmond, VA & surrounding area Firefly Fans:

http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/richmondbrowncoats/

http://www.richmondbrowncoats.org

SIGMANUNKI

Tuesday, March 28, 2006 4:37 PM (P)

Damn! How do you do all that and still live? I wish I had your constitution!

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"We're in a giant car heading into a brick wall at 100 miles/hr and everybody's arguing about where they want to sit."
-David Suzuki

BROWNCOAT1

Tuesday, March 28, 2006 5:19 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
Damn! How do you do all that and still live? I wish I had your constitution!

Willpower?

Really it can be a chore so I try to make it fun, more of a challenge than a chore. This thread & the support of the browncoats helps a lot. I also take my MP3 or CD player w/ some music to motivate me.

I find once I actually get to the gym & start working out I get into this frame of mind where I can let everything else melt away & just focus on lifting weights or putting one foot in front of the other when I jog on the treadmill. It allows me to let the cares & stress of the real world go & focus on some simple physical exertion.

You should try it out SigmaNunki.

__________________________________________

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

Richmond, VA & surrounding area Firefly Fans:

http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/richmondbrowncoats/

http://www.richmondbrowncoats.org

AZBROWNCOAT

Tuesday, March 28, 2006 5:46 PM (P)

I got good news!!! I lost 5 pounds since Saturday!!!
Bad news...had a stomach virus.
But either way...it's 5 whole rutting pounds!!!!!

I have my second ballet class tonight. I am getting much better at my pliets. Been practicing at home.

And I got a book from the library about stretching. Hey, I swear that is a workout in itself. Trying to do it all proper like. I am getting flixible. woooo!!! Well, more flexible I should say.

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BROWNCOAT1

Tuesday, March 28, 2006 5:52 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by AzBrowncoat:
I got good news!!! I lost 5 pounds since Saturday!!!
Bad news...had a stomach virus.
But either way...it's 5 whole rutting pounds!!!!!

I have my second ballet class tonight. I am getting much better at my pliets. Been practicing at home.

And I got a book from the library about stretching. Hey, I swear that is a workout in itself. Trying to do it all proper like. I am getting flixible. woooo!!! Well, more flexible I should say.

Congratulations! On the five lost pounds, not the stomach virus.

Perhaps you could market the stomach virus as the next big weight loss program. LOL!

__________________________________________

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

Richmond, VA & surrounding area Firefly Fans:

http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/richmondbrowncoats/

http://www.richmondbrowncoats.org

AZBROWNCOAT

Tuesday, March 28, 2006 6:02 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by BrownCoat1:
Perhaps you could market the stomach virus as the next big weight loss program. LOL!

Well, they used to market tape worms as a dietary means.

Who knows? Maybe I'll just send them to the local pizza joint like I did.

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Vote early and vote once an hour.

BROWNCOAT1

Tuesday, March 28, 2006 6:04 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by AzBrowncoat:
Well, they used to market tape worms as a dietary means. Who knows? Maybe I'll just send them to the local pizza joint like I did.

LOL!

__________________________________________

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

Richmond, VA & surrounding area Firefly Fans:

http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/richmondbrowncoats/

http://www.richmondbrowncoats.org

SIGMANUNKI

Tuesday, March 28, 2006 6:29 PM (P)

Just finished my workout; day 2, check

Quote:
Originally posted by BrownCoat1:

Really it can be a chore so I try to make it fun, more of a challenge than a chore. This thread & the support of the browncoats helps a lot. I also take my MP3 or CD player w/ some music to motivate me.

Certainly true. I probably wouldn't have made my goal last week if it weren't for last weeks thread. Probably wouldn't have started this week either.

Quote:
Originally posted by BrownCoat1:

I find once I actually get to the gym & start working out I get into this frame of mind where I can let everything else melt away & just focus on lifting weights or putting one foot in front of the other when I jog on the treadmill. It allows me to let the cares & stress of the real world go & focus on some simple physical exertion.

You should try it out SigmaNunki.

I envy you. I can't just focus on working out, never could. There's always some math or programming some such sitting in my brain. Though I can focus on those things... weird.

At any rate, the only thing that I can do right now is what I can do in my living room; money constraints.

But, what I would like to do, when I come into money again, is get back into martial arts. Also, wall climbing and stuff like that would be fun too

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"We're in a giant car heading into a brick wall at 100 miles/hr and everybody's arguing about where they want to sit."
-David Suzuki

SIGMANUNKI

Tuesday, March 28, 2006 6:32 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by AzBrowncoat:

I got good news!!! I lost 5 pounds since Saturday!!!
Bad news...had a stomach virus.
But either way...it's 5 whole rutting pounds!!!!!

Congrats... I think

Quote:
Originally posted by AzBrowncoat:

I have my second ballet class tonight. I am getting much better at my pliets. Been practicing at home.

And I got a book from the library about stretching. Hey, I swear that is a workout in itself. Trying to do it all proper like. I am getting flixible. woooo!!! Well, more flexible I should say.

Have fun

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"We're in a giant car heading into a brick wall at 100 miles/hr and everybody's arguing about where they want to sit."
-David Suzuki

SASSALICIOUS

Wednesday, March 29, 2006 4:51 AM (P)

I'm joining up with this fitness club thread.

I'll start with stats and goals:
Stats
Female
5'8.5" (i tell everyone i'm 5'9")
145 pounds

Goal(s)
1. Back down to 115-120 lbs. It's what my drivers license says and I'd like to be back down to it.
2. Work out 5-6 days a week
3. Eat less and healthier
4. Limit myself to 1 or 2 nights of drunken revelry.

This shouldn't be too terrible to accomplish. I've managed to successfully shoot my metabolism to hell, but aside from that it's all good. I have wasted one of my drinking nights already this week--yay for Sundays. But I did work out yesterday and will tomorrow, etc etc.

Good luck everyone!

SIGMANUNKI

Wednesday, March 29, 2006 6:05 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Sassalicious:

I'm joining up with this fitness club thread.

More people, shiny

Good luck with it all, and let us know how it's going

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"We're in a giant car heading into a brick wall at 100 miles/hr and everybody's arguing about where they want to sit."
-David Suzuki

COPILOT

Wednesday, March 29, 2006 6:20 AM (P)

I've decided I want to slim down somewhat. I don't want to tell you guys my weight right now cause it'll make you think I'm a lot bigger than I am. I've stopped drinking for a while and started to eat less. Also trying to eat healthier. My car is broken so I have to walk to work also I'm going back to being the old me so I'll be a lot more energetic and happier.

An I carried such a torch

SERENITY28

Wednesday, March 29, 2006 6:53 AM (P)

hi, im been doing weights recently but ive just been doing them without a goal or anything, does anyoen have a good idea as to what would be a good goal for a started like so much per day, i currently only have 2 dumbells and a barbell.

Thank You

SIGMANUNKI

Wednesday, March 29, 2006 7:27 AM (P)

@CoPilot:
Awesome

Quote:
Originally posted by Serenity28:

hi, im been doing weights recently but ive just been doing them without a goal or anything, does anyoen have a good idea as to what would be a good goal for a started like so much per day, i currently only have 2 dumbells and a barbell.

Thank You

It depends on what you want to accomplish. But, always listen to you body. If you feel sore or uncomfy or whatever, stop. If you think no pain, no gain, you have no brain (just thought that one up myself I did

Seriously, no insult intended. Shiny?

).

Generally (and this is from a long ago memory) if you want bulk/strength, fewer reps, heavier weight and for tone/endurance, lighter and more reps.

Again, from what I remember, 3 sets of 8-12 reps for each exercise is the workout. Escentially, the idea is that the muscles from the first exercise are rested before the next set comes around.

Aside from that, you should make sure that all the muscle groups are exercised.

Also, you could do, upper body one day and lower body the next. If you do this for 6 days then a day of entire rest, it'd make an even week. Or do both upper and lower mon-wes-fri and take the weekend off. Or...

Really depends on your schedule.

For me, I chose my exercises and am still on 1 set. Yes, I'm that out of shape. Probably next week I'll try 2 sets. I do this mon-fri and it doesn't take that long at all.

I'm building up slowly, because I know that if I don't get into a "everyday" routine, I'll stop doing it. So, everyday is more important to me than doing all the sets that I'm "supposed" to be doing. I'm just going to work my way up as my body lets me

And once I get 3 sets ok, I think I'll break out my Pilates for Dummies DVD again.

At any rate, as I think I just illistrated just how far I am from I am from my long term goal, I'll go to bed now. Hope that was somewhat helpful...

Good luck and g'night

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"We're in a giant car heading into a brick wall at 100 miles/hr and everybody's arguing about where they want to sit."
-David Suzuki

BROWNCOAT1

Wednesday, March 29, 2006 4:42 PM (P)

Well, I will be going to the gym again today. Arms are still a bit sore from the workout Monday. Must have overdid the weight a bit.

My goal weight is 200 lb. I have a ways to go.

__________________________________________

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

Richmond, VA & surrounding area Firefly Fans:

http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/richmondbrowncoats/

http://www.richmondbrowncoats.org

SIGMANUNKI

Wednesday, March 29, 2006 6:06 PM (P)

Just finished my workout. Check day 3

Quote:
Originally posted by BrownCoat1:

Well, I will be going to the gym again today. Arms are still a bit sore from the workout Monday. Must have overdid the weight a bit.

My goal weight is 200 lb. I have a ways to go.

We all have to start from somewhere

Perhaps take it a bit easy today, yes? No-one here wants you to get hurt

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"We're in a giant car heading into a brick wall at 100 miles/hr and everybody's arguing about where they want to sit."
-David Suzuki

VERA2529

Wednesday, March 29, 2006 6:24 PM (P)

Hi all,
As I sit at my desk downing a chocolate bar, I'm thinking it would be good motivation for me to join your thread.

I'm looking to drop about 15 pounds, currently at 172 lbs. I was supposed to start doing cardio at home this week but I have yet to actually get on the machine. So it goes.

Good news is a friend is giving me an old DVD player today. If I hook it up this afternoon, I can watch Firefly while I work out! Ahh, the ultimate motivation. I want to be as desirable to Jayne as that gun he likes so much!

I should revamp my diet as well. Any one have any good recipes? Tofu or veggie, or chicken/turkey? Trying to lay off the beef and pork.

vera2925

SASSALICIOUS

Wednesday, March 29, 2006 7:02 PM (P)

Vera: I'm a vegetarian, so of course I'm biased but tofu and veggies are delicious. I don't know a lot of recipes because I'm not really one for cooking, but I'm a big fan of Pad Thai with tofu. You can pick up the pad thai basic mix at a grocery store and then follow the package and add tofu or chicken if you wanted. Red or black beans & rice is another one of my favorites and my roommate always cooks chicken with hers so I assume that's good as well.

So I need to edit my stats. Apparently I'm back up to 150 after last week's binge. Oops.

Just finished my workout. 30 minutes on the elliptical and 15 on the treadmill. Plus I walk to, from, and all around campus every day.

SIGMANUNKI

Wednesday, March 29, 2006 7:17 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by vera2529:

Hi all,
As I sit at my desk downing a chocolate bar, I'm thinking it would be good motivation for me to join your thread.

Welcome

Quote:
Originally posted by vera2529:

I'm looking to drop about 15 pounds, currently at 172 lbs. I was supposed to start doing cardio at home this week but I have yet to actually get on the machine. So it goes.

Yah, lacking motivation was it for me too. Then Persephone736 posted that thread and it got me off my arse and doing what I've been wanting to do for months.

Quote:
Originally posted by vera2529:

Good news is a friend is giving me an old DVD player today. If I hook it up this afternoon, I can watch Firefly while I work out! Ahh, the ultimate motivation. I want to be as desirable to Jayne as that gun he likes so much!

Wacky fun during the workout. Shiny

Quote:
Originally posted by vera2529:

I should revamp my diet as well. Any one have any good recipes? Tofu or veggie, or chicken/turkey? Trying to lay off the beef and pork.

Things Thai are great as long as it isn't of the fried variety. Just watch how much spices/curry goes in

Indian food is good as well... mmmmm, Korma....

But, Indian food is also quite time consuming to make. Your local grocery store should have some pre-made sauces and such.

That being said, of course the general rule is, if you have trouble pronouncing the ingrediants, or they sound all chemically, it probably isn't that great for you.

Also, learning to cook other cultures foods can be wacky fun in its own right

It's just that the taste buds might have to pay a bit in the begining

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"We're in a giant car heading into a brick wall at 100 miles/hr and everybody's arguing about where they want to sit."
-David Suzuki

SERENITY28

Wednesday, March 29, 2006 7:40 PM (P)

Hi thanks for your great post, "Generally (and this is from a long ago memory) if you want bulk/strength, fewer reps, heavier weight and for tone/endurance, lighter and more reps." was really good to know i was going for light weights but i think im going to change to heavy, also this might be a stupid question but in your post you said soon you would change to 2 sets, what is a set

Thank You

SIGMANUNKI

Wednesday, March 29, 2006 8:47 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Serenity28:

your post you said soon you would change to 2 sets, what is a set

Just a set of exercises. For instance, I do pushups, situps, etc. When I complete the 10 of each of those, that is one set. At least, that's what I meant by it

Quote:
Originally posted by Serenity28:

Thank You

np

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"We're in a giant car heading into a brick wall at 100 miles/hr and everybody's arguing about where they want to sit."
-David Suzuki

SERENITY28

Wednesday, March 29, 2006 9:28 PM (P)

ah great thanks

VERA2529

Thursday, March 30, 2006 5:22 PM (P)

Good news! At this time yesterday I was eating a chocolate bar and lots of coffee, today I managed organic oatmeal and a banana plus water.

DVD is hooked up and ready for Firefly during at-home cardio.

Yay, for friendly Browncoat motivation

SIGMANUNKI

Thursday, March 30, 2006 6:27 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by vera2529:
Good news! At this time yesterday I was eating a chocolate bar and lots of coffee, today I managed organic oatmeal and a banana plus water.

DVD is hooked up and ready for Firefly during at-home cardio.

Yay, for friendly Browncoat motivation

Awesome! Let us know how it goes. Personally, I've never tried to watch TV while working out.

Just did my workout as well. Check day 4

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"We're in a giant car heading into a brick wall at 100 miles/hr and everybody's arguing about where they want to sit."
-David Suzuki

SASSALICIOUS

Thursday, March 30, 2006 6:42 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
Personally, I've never tried to watch TV while working out.

It's great and makes the time go by faster. Unless of course the TV program is "Sweet Sixteen" on MTV. Or almost anything on MTV for that matter . . .

Congrats on Day 4!

AZBROWNCOAT

Thursday, March 30, 2006 8:11 PM (P)

I want to cry!!! My lunch today had 1090 calories!!! Sure, the frosty tasted good, but man, what a cost. 1 hour of ballet for me tonight just to make up for it.

But yesterday I had great fun. I jumped rope and I fkew a kite. Sure, they are kiddie activities, but I tell you what, at least they got me active. Yeah for me.

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SIGMANUNKI

Thursday, March 30, 2006 11:32 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by AzBrowncoat:

I want to cry!!! My lunch today had 1090 calories!!! Sure, the frosty tasted good, but man, what a cost. 1 hour of ballet for me tonight just to make up for it.

Don't worry about it. We all need a "cookie" from time to time. We're not robots, no sir-y.

Quote:
Originally posted by AzBrowncoat:

But yesterday I had great fun. I jumped rope and I fkew a kite. Sure, they are kiddie activities, but I tell you what, at least they got me active. Yeah for me.

Variety is always a good thing. And I wouldn't call jumping rope a kiddie thing as boxers do it. That is, unless you want to call a boxer a girly man

Also, the kid in us needs to be released from time to time. Otherwise we risk becoming some bitter person.

It's all good, keep it up

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"We're in a giant car heading into a brick wall at 100 miles/hr and everybody's arguing about where they want to sit."
-David Suzuki

SASSALICIOUS

Friday, March 31, 2006 6:18 AM (P)

Just got back from working out. It was about an hour of cardio and now I'm starving, but unfortunately it's midnight and I want to go to sleep so eating just isn't going to happen.

Hope it was a good day for everyone else.

SIGMANUNKI

Friday, March 31, 2006 5:29 PM (P)

Did you have time for at least a little snack? Hopefully

For me, checking off day 5. Week 2 goal complete

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"We're in a giant car heading into a brick wall at 100 miles/hr and everybody's arguing about where they want to sit."
-David Suzuki

BROWNCOAT1

Friday, March 31, 2006 5:53 PM (P)

Okay Wednesday workout went pretty well. 30 minutes on the weights, 20 minutes on the treadmill, 30 minutes on the stationary bike w/ a steady incline program.

Felt pretty good when I got home. I'll be going to the gym again this afternoon & will weigh in.

Keep up the good work everyone!

__________________________________________

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

Richmond, VA & surrounding area Firefly Fans:

http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/richmondbrowncoats/

http://www.richmondbrowncoats.org

SASSALICIOUS

Saturday, April 1, 2006 3:39 AM (P)

No time for a snack, but lucky for me I finished today's workout with time to eat afterward.

Yay.

SIGMANUNKI

Saturday, April 1, 2006 5:15 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Sassalicious:
No time for a snack, but lucky for me I finished today's workout with time to eat afterward.

Yay.

Shiny

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"We're in a giant car heading into a brick wall at 100 miles/hr and everybody's arguing about where they want to sit."
-David Suzuki

PERSEPHONE736

Saturday, April 1, 2006 6:15 PM (P)

Wow, sounds like everyone has been doing a pretty good job sticking with this. I am quite impressed. I've fallen behind a bit but the lovely weather we've been having is just enough to get me back outside and eating better again.

SASSALICIOUS

Sunday, April 2, 2006 2:13 AM (P)

I love how nice weather really brings out a change in behavior. The same thing happens to me.

Anyway, yeah. I finished my workout today and it was good.

The scale is claiming that I've lost 3 pounds since the other day, but I'm not entirely sure I believe that. It's probably just water weight. Whatever though, I was still excited.

SIGMANUNKI

Sunday, April 2, 2006 2:18 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Sassalicious:

The scale is claiming that I've lost 3 pounds since the other day, but I'm not entirely sure I believe that. It's probably just water weight. Whatever though, I was still excited.

Congrats

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"We're in a giant car heading into a brick wall at 100 miles/hr and everybody's arguing about where they want to sit."
-David Suzuki

PERSEPHONE736

Sunday, April 2, 2006 9:20 PM (P)

Yay, just did a two mile walk on this lovely day!

SIGMANUNKI

Sunday, April 2, 2006 9:32 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Persephone736:
Yay, just did a two mile walk on this lovely day!

Shiny

Everybody ready for week 3? Starts tomorrow

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"We're in a giant car heading into a brick wall at 100 miles/hr and everybody's arguing about where they want to sit."
-David Suzuki

SASSALICIOUS

Monday, April 3, 2006 2:43 AM (P)

Heck yes I'm ready for Week 3!!

Only worked out for 30 minutes today,,,kind of felt like a failure for that, but whatever. I blame daylight savings because I accidentally slept until 3:15 in the afternoon.

MILFORD

Monday, April 3, 2006 3:01 AM (P)

Way to go, I'm really proud of you guys for sticking with it. You'll be glad you did.

As for what to do with yourself while you're doing cardio, I like to listen to either the Firefly Talk or The Signal podcasts. They're usually about an hour, which gives you a few minutes to stretch, a strong 30-45 minutes of treadmill, elliptical, or cycling, and another few minutes for cooldown. Works great and the Firefly and Serenity content keeps your mind occupied while your body is working hard. Especially true when Firefly talk is replaying the convention interviews.

Keep it up! Go Go Go! You can do it! You ARE doing it!

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BROWNCOAT1

Monday, April 3, 2006 4:42 PM (P)

Okay, worked out again on Friday. Did weights for 35 minutes, 30 minutes (2.5 miles) on the treadmill w/ the hills program, then 35 minutes on the bike w/ the steady incline set.

Went walking w/ the wife afterwards on the trails at the park nearby. The pedometer said we put in 3.1 miles.

Starting tomorrow (thunderstorms today) a friend & I will be walking everyday at lunchtime.

Going to the gym again this afternoon.

__________________________________________

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

Richmond, VA & surrounding area Firefly Fans:

http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/richmondbrowncoats/

http://www.richmondbrowncoats.org

SIGMANUNKI

Monday, April 3, 2006 5:17 PM (P)

Shiny Browncoat1, keep it up

Next thread:

http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=11&t=19431

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"We're in a giant car heading into a brick wall at 100 miles/hr and everybody's arguing about where they want to sit."
-David Suzuki