BRING BACK FIREFLY!

POSTED BY: humble
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HUMBLE

Sunday, December 28, 2003 2:29 PM

i haven't read too many waves from other browncoats writing about letters they've sent to networks and tv studios about bringing firefly back to the airwaves. are we pinning all our hopes to an iffy movie coming out of universal studios? what if this falls through? i think we should ban together and double our efforts and innundate studios/networks with MORE correspondence than ever! is there a way for fans to petition this with the help of joss and the cast and crew of firefly? i, myself, have written to scifi,universal,upn,wb,etc. i don't think that dvd sales alone are enough to assure the hollywood money people that firefly is a good investment! i think we should continue to stand up and represent our fan interest as well, now more than ever! BROWNCOATS UNITE!!!

LETS MAKE 2004 THE YEAR FIREFLY RETURNS! (signed as always, a loyal browncoat)

TEELABROWN

Sunday, December 28, 2003 2:54 PM

there is a petition site, that you can get people to sign, and send it off as one big package to Fox and such. Or maybe start one here. Just make sure those blue-handed Fox execs get it.

Here is my signature-ish thing if you start a petition:

Name: Teela Brown (I might offer my real name, but not now)
Reason: BRING BACK FIREFLY!!!
Comments: "I don't give half a hump whether you're guilty or not. You're going to burn in that very special level of hell. A place reserved for network executives who cancel intelligent shows and instead embrace ben-dan go-se reality programming." (Sorry, Zaphod, I had to.)
YOU CAN'T TAKE THE SKY FROM US!!!!!

Well, that is that. I hope you do start a petition, and I'm not kidding when I say I will sign it like that. Any way, Keep flyin'!

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"Freedom is the Freedom to say that 2+2 makes 4. If that is granted, all else follws"-Winston, 1984
Keep flyin', and remember, THEY can't take the sky from US!

HUMBLE

Sunday, December 28, 2003 5:54 PM

teelabrown-thanx for the info. think i'll look into petition.

a loyal browncoat!

PYMSPARTICLES

Sunday, December 28, 2003 6:34 PM

Well that just goes to show that whenever anyone has a good idea for a tv show, that some moronic network nazi has to come in and ruin it for all of us. BRING BACK FIREFLY NOW!!!

There's no place that I can be since I found serinity.
Pym

CALHOUN

Sunday, December 28, 2003 7:46 PM

Get the Gorram petition going and i'll get 50 people to sign it over here in Australia where Firefly has never been aired. Everyone (and I mean everyone) I have shown the show to has been absolutely amazed that this show could be cancelled while all the other TRIPE stays on air.... To quote Jubal Early "does that seem right to you?"

GINOBIFFARONI

Sunday, December 28, 2003 8:12 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Calhoun:
Here in Australia where Firefly has never been aired.

Hey Calhoun,

I am not ever sure if we had anything to do with it, but a bunch of us Canadians did an E-mail campaign to get our Sci-Fi channel, the Space Channel to air Firefly. I recieved an Email back saying they could not comment on their scheduling, but my input was welcome and would be considered. Then sure enough, Firefly was in the Fall Schedule unairred eps and all, Mondays at 7PM,8PM,9PM depending on your timezone ( better timeslot than Fox gave it )

I recall a post saying that in Brazil there is a strong fan base as well. perhaps you guys can get a local network to air it, more browncoats for the cause.

Good Luck

Mike Smith

" Thats not fair !!!!
I didn't even have a soul when I did that!"

LEEH

Sunday, December 28, 2003 8:34 PM

Whoa--do we really want to be petitioning FOX on this? Not only did they kill "Firefly" after apparently never understanding it or supporting Joss's vision, but one gets the definite sense that Joss is not feelin' too kindly towards that network and wouldn't much want to take the series back there.

It would make much more sense to target a network that would support the show. Just as Joss moved "Buffy" over after FOX killed it, we should consider a move. (Of course, this assumes that FOX either doesn't have the rights, or has them and is willing to sell them for a price that another network is willing to pay.)

If Universal is interested in the movie, maybe they would also buy a series. I don't know if that studio does make TV shows--does anyone? I gather that the show was pretty expensive to make, which may be why it didn't get shopped to the SciFi Channel in the U.S., as their budget isn't exactly equally to that of big studios and networks like FOX.

It would be great if Joss would give us feedback on where he thinks the show would take hold--although one must assume that if there were a network he thought would buy it, he'd already have been in talks with them. He's said that he's spent every day of his life since cancellation trying to keep the show alive. . . .

PARKWHELEN

Sunday, December 28, 2003 9:23 PM

I've signed on-line petitions before. I'm not sure how well they work but it's worth a try. As for Fox cancelling Firefly...well, I guess I'm sorta used to it by now. My favorite show of all time was cancelled in 1978...Battlestar Galactica, then the networks had to go and ruin the original concept of the show by "re-imagining" it. Let's hope that doesn't happen to Firefly 25 years from now.

The best bet is to try and get ahold of the networks in any possible way to convince them to pick the show.

MALSDOXY

Sunday, December 28, 2003 10:31 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Calhoun:
absolutely amazed that this show could be cancelled while all the other TRIPE stays on air....

Kinda makes you wonder what kind of back berths run FOX, doesn't it?

Camille

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TEELABROWN

Monday, December 29, 2003 12:28 AM

Leeh- how about we send one to Fox, to rub it in their face to show what they missed out on, and then send the others to other willing clients or T.V. stations. Or, if we happen to get some one else to pick it up, then we send it to Fox to show what us browncoats can do.

Keep flyin'!

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"Freedom is the Freedom to say that 2+2 makes 4. If that is granted, all else follws"-Winston, 1984
Keep flyin', and remember, THEY can't take the sky from US!

LEEH

Monday, December 29, 2003 1:56 AM

I'm down with that, but of course the best way to rub FOX's face in it and show they are d?ì ruò mù j? would be for Firefly the movie or tv show to make a ton of money for another studio or network! I'm all for that!

Go browncoats!

CALHOUN

Monday, December 29, 2003 7:20 AM

Heya Ginobiffaroni,

Sounds like a plan!

I'll give it a shot though I dont envisage much success, I have already asked my video rental stores to get it and they can find no reference to it in any of their ordering catalogues..not surprising considering Firefly DVD's only come in region 1. Still..

Later.

~Keep Flying~

JAYTHING

Sunday, January 4, 2004 1:11 AM

This series is amazing, it has to come back

CAITLYN

Monday, January 19, 2004 7:35 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jaything:
This series is amazing, it has to come back

Just the way Harsh Realm came back, eh? I'm still waiting for the second season of Star Cops too...

Sorry, I know that was cruel, but it doesn't have to do anything.

"Every man there go back inside, or we will blow a
new crater in this little moon."

CAITLYN

Monday, January 19, 2004 7:40 PM

What?!?!?! You didn't like "Galactica 1980"???? Amazing!

Gee.. I wonder when the "Galactica 1980" boxed set comes out. Maybe there are some unaired episodes they can include.

OK, enough sarcasm. Gos se does get released, though. There are video releases of "The Starlost" and even the failed pilot "K-9 and Company".

"See, this is another sign of your tragic space dementia, all paranoid and crotchety. Makes it hard."

CAITLYN

Monday, January 19, 2004 7:44 PM

Errr...Leeh, if I remember rightly Fox never had Buffy. It went from the WB to UPN. WB wanted it back but lost a bidding war after season 5. Not at all like Firefly's story: different network, not exactly a success.

"Just a little whimsical in the brainpan.
Seems calm enough though."

LEEH

Monday, January 19, 2004 7:58 PM

Whoops--my bad. All these spin off networks seem the same to me; same bad programming, except when they kill off the few good ones. . .

CAITLYN

Monday, January 19, 2004 8:02 PM

I think the Buffy and Angel fans might not take kindly to your comments. There are some folks who take Jos' work pretty personal.

Truth be told I'm not a Buffy fan.

"Oh, I've got heathens aplenty right here. "

LEEH

Monday, January 19, 2004 8:05 PM

Ohmigod, I didn't mean THOSE shows! I'm a Buffy fan myself, and like Angel as well. I meant all the NON-Joss stuff, basically--the formulaic sitcoms and tired dramas that seem like rehashes of rehashes of rehashes. It's hard to imagine a FF fan who isn't at least appreciative of Buffy and Angel, since they have his signature intelligence and wit. I guess I should give the WB credit for letting Angel live, while FOX killed FF so quickly, huh?

HJERMSTED

Monday, January 19, 2004 8:08 PM

Well... after Fox canceled the show, there were postcard and petition campaigns directed toward WB, UPN and the Sci Fi Channel. All three networks passed on it, obviously.

The pre-cancellation letter writing campaign to Fox DID result in the DVD set eventually being produced.

With the success of the show in the UK (and online) and since the DVD appears to be more successful than anyone hoped... I wonder if WB, UPN or Sci Fi would be more willing to listen to the browncoats and bring the show back.

Perhaps the launching of another campaign is in order.

mattro

CAITLYN

Monday, January 19, 2004 8:25 PM

I reckon a new campaign can't hurt anything. If the movie becomes a definite thing I'd just wait and see and try and get people to go see the movie.

"Simon, the whole point of swearing
is that it ain't appropriate. "

CAITLYN

Monday, January 19, 2004 8:29 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by LeeH:
Ohmigod, I didn't mean THOSE shows! I'm a Buffy fan myself, and like Angel as well. I meant all the NON-Joss stuff, basically--the formulaic sitcoms and tired dramas that seem like rehashes of rehashes of rehashes.

Hmmm... let's look at some non-Jos shows. Did you think X Files was tired? Especially the first few seasons? That was Fox if I remember rightly. Seven Days had a pretty good run. Wasn't that UPN?

I shouldn't give you a hard time any more. I have a hard time with generalisations is all.

Oh, and yeah, I've been called a bi*** before

"Now, this would be the perfect time
for a swear word. "

LEEH

Monday, January 19, 2004 8:40 PM

Never watched X-Files; couldn't get into it. Never heard of, was it Seven Days? So I guess I am generalizing unfairly, not having seen everything that FOX has aired.

MIREILLEISIS

Monday, January 19, 2004 8:53 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Calhoun:
Get the Gorram petition going and i'll get 50 people to sign it over here in Australia where Firefly has never been aired.

I'M UP FOR SOME NETWORK KICKING BUTT!!

If you get the petition going I will organise something here in the UK and I can guarantee that a few hundred signatures wil be added to it. For those of us lucky enough to have cable, we've been able to watch it on the Living TV channel, and there are a lot more that already have it on DVD.

Have you guys heard of the FIREFLY/BUFFY convention in Blackpool UK?
So far the Firefly attendees are:
Nathan Fillion
Morena Baccarin
Jewel Staite
Gina Torres

Here is the website: www.starfury.co.uk

Lady, you are my kinda stupid.

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SCOTTICUS

Wednesday, January 21, 2004 1:06 AM

Okay, there's a *whole* lotta talking going on here. -But the one thing I _haven't_ seen is someone pointing the way towards the action. To make things more clear.

Where's the petition to bring back firefly?
Where's the list of sponsors so we know whom to thank?
Where's the snail mail addresses for fox, upn, sci-fi, and the sponsors?

I just plopped $35 bucks for the DVD set. If I'm willing to do that, might be other people are as well. I'm willing to write a letter or three, but I do need know where the action is.

Who's got the goods? And why isn't it posted in nice obvious like spot on the front page?

-Scotticus the Praetorian Cowboy

"I wear red and an eagle and I carry a spear. -You got a problem with that?"

SCOTTICUS

Wednesday, January 21, 2004 1:06 AM

Okay, there's a *whole* lotta talking going on here. -But the one thing I _haven't_ seen is someone pointing the way towards the action. To make things more clear.

Where's the petition to bring back firefly?
Where's the list of sponsors so we know whom to thank?
Where's the snail mail addresses for fox, upn, sci-fi, and the sponsors?

I just plopped $35 bucks for the DVD set. If I'm willing to do that, might be other people are as well. I'm willing to write a letter or three, but I do need know where the action is.

Who's got the goods? And why isn't it posted in nice obvious like spot on the front page?

-Scotticus the Praetorian Cowboy

"I wear red and an eagle and I carry a spear. -You got a problem with that?"

LIPOSUCTION

Saturday, January 31, 2004 5:43 PM

OMG. I just bought the DVDs on recdommendation. Less than 48 hours later, I'm done watching, and I've registered my disgust with Fox.

WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?!?!?

They kept Deep Space Nine syndicated for YEARS, and they toss Firefly out after less than a season? This is insane.

Absolutely unbelievable.

I must get the word out. I'm getting EVERYONE I know to buy this set of discs.

AAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!! :finger Fox :finger

Those morons.

SERENA

Sunday, February 1, 2004 1:54 AM

Got an idea from another thread about how to make sure the "Powers that Be" know we care - write reviews for the DVDs at Amazon.com. It already has 483 reviews attesting to the show's brilliance. Maybe they'll sit up and take notice if there are thousands of positive reviews.

________
Simon: Can you move your feet?
Kaylee: Are you asking me to dance?

RICHARD

Sunday, February 1, 2004 7:19 PM

I recently just finished watching Firefly on DVD, since I was not fortunate engough to see it on TV when originaly aired. It took all of 5 day, and that was because I was trying to make it last. By the end the 2 hour movie I was hooked. The people at FOX should be shot. What a crime to end this show so fast. Lets make sure that Joss doesn't give up on Firefly. Its too good to just let go.
I can only describe the loss I felt after viewing the last episode as like a person newly in love watching there new love get hit by a bus.
This is one loss I'll never get over.
Firefly forever. Lets never give up.

SERENA

Sunday, February 1, 2004 7:32 PM

I know what you mean about wanting to make it last. I got the DVD set and haven't watched it yet! I got it before I even had a DVD player!
I'm trying hard to ration myself.
I stumbled onto Firefly when it aired on the Space channel, and not knowing that they'd already cancelled the show, I fell in love with it after the first episode I watched (don't remember which one).
Now I want to savour it until the movie comes out ;).

________
Simon: Can you move your feet?
Kaylee: Are you asking me to dance?

RICHARD

Monday, February 2, 2004 2:16 PM

Serena has the right idea. I already added my review to Amazon.com and I also added one to Barnesnobel.com. I'm going to look around for other sights I can write a review for too. Maybe Suncoast or DVDPlanent?
Keep spreading the word.

SERENA

Monday, February 2, 2004 3:58 PM

Thanks, Richard.
And good thinking.
I'm also going to go to Indigo/Chapters.ca and DVDSoon (which is where I bought my set from) to post reviews there.
Keep flying!

________
Simon: Can you move your feet?
Kaylee: Are you asking me to dance?

RICHARD

Monday, February 2, 2004 11:56 PM

Thanks for the info Serena. I visited those sites you mentioned and left a review of my own. Every little bit helps.
Anyone know if Joss plans on writing some novels that tie in with the show till the movie gets made, or maybe after the movie?
I sure hope so. It would be terrible if the characters didn't get live out the life Joss had planed for them.

SASJA

Tuesday, March 9, 2004 10:41 AM

I've written reviews at Amazon and Barnes&Nobles and would suggest imdb.com, too. Any other obvious places?

SASJA

Wednesday, March 17, 2004 10:36 AM

One more place to vote for the excellence of Firefly: http://entertainment.msn.com/movies/movie.aspx?m=530805

The more places it gets top marks the better

SERENA

Friday, March 26, 2004 11:19 PM

Great suggestion. Thanks for the link.

Please help Haken keep this site running by clicking on a google ad on the side of the page!

PSELUS

Thursday, May 6, 2004 7:27 PM

for those who want the petition
http://www.petitiononline.com/create_petition.html
I'd start one but I'm not a "wordy" fellow...someone create a petition and I'll sign away

NEMO

Tuesday, July 13, 2004 12:16 PM

Oh yeah, what this guy said!! I want to know address and who I should direct letters to.

INSEARCHOF

Tuesday, October 18, 2005 10:54 PM

HOw many firefly fans are there world wide? I think we could easily come together and bring back this wonderful show. I think a major flaw is the limited resource online for people. Heck, we could pull an enterprise and offer donations for the show! It would be sad to lose this 'verse... I guess if it never comes back we can keep it aline through internet comics and stories! Thats a thought, how many people would read online comics???

KHYRON

Wednesday, October 19, 2005 12:07 AM

Quote:
...how many people would read online comics???

I wouldn't. As much as I like Firefly, no... just no.

CRUSADER

Wednesday, October 19, 2005 8:08 PM

Damn shame this show got cancelled - just viewed the DVDs and am waiting to see the flick. I was blown away and have been scouring the net for facts regarding the story's future.

Any news of the sci-fi channel showing an interest in resurrecting the series?

Sci-fi has resuscitated both Babylon 5 and Battlestar Galactica. Seems logical to assume Firefly could find a home there; with a decent time-slot to expand viewer base.

I know the box office draw has been less than inspiring and well below goal, so hope for a sequel is floundering.

Any word?

CUB

Wednesday, October 19, 2005 9:22 PM

By the way, the rerun of the original show is now the highest rated program on the Sci-Fi Channel.

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"If wishes were horses, we'd all be eatin' steak."

SETHGOD

Thursday, October 20, 2005 12:02 AM

Deffinitly one of the best sci-fi i've ever seen. If you havn't already, write a letter to Joss Whedon telling him to make a new season. It just MUST be done...

I like the movie, it was like another episode to me, though they killed Wash... why T.T ...

Yggdrasil

CRUSADER

Thursday, October 20, 2005 2:31 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Cub:
By the way, the rerun of the original show is now the highest rated program on the Sci-Fi Channel.

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"If wishes were horses, we'd all be eatin' steak."

That is excellent news and bodes very well for a possible continuation of the series! Perhaps an offer from sci-fi is forthcoming?

We shall see.

BARD

Thursday, October 20, 2005 4:43 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by InSearchOf:
HOw many firefly fans are there world wide? I think we could easily come together and bring back this wonderful show. I think a major flaw is the limited resource online for people. Heck, we could pull an enterprise and offer donations for the show! It would be sad to lose this 'verse...

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After seeing Serenity repeatedly, I am convinced the only way to truly keep the Firefly 'verse alive is as an episodic television show. The heart of Firefly was in its pace, its character development, its charm, if you will. The slow moments, the magic moments, the humorous moments gave the show balance and were what captivated and created its avid audience. Movies, issued every 2-3 years, determined to be "epic," forced to focus on the "high" points and on dramatic action, lose this heart, lose the spirit of Firefly.

Consider the legacy of Trek. While Firefly is in many ways a reaction to/against Trek, it also, as is always the case in art, stands on the shoulders of its predecessor. A new vision, ahead of its time, created by one determined person's vision, misunderstood, mishandled, and, thus, aborted. Only to be kept alive and reborn at the insistence of a passionate (read, obsessed) following. With what results? Five television series, totalling over twenty years of episodes. Ten films (by my count, off the top of my head - I'm sure hairs can be split, here, if you must). An entire subculture, with references that permeate the culture, writ large.

Can we not do this? Can we not use the incredible success and longevity of Trek as credentials of a sort?

(I am not seeking to start a discussion of Wwhat fans think of Trek. I am very excited about Firefly, obviously, as a refreshing alternative to the Trekian 'verse. I just wish to not forget the lessons of history. Our history.)

What are our numbers, exactly? I have purchased the DVD set, and three tickets, so far, to Serenity. I have not yet joined clubs or signed petitions - although I am obviously headed that way. Am I counted among the faithful, when people discuss our numbers? How many fans do we have, and how many were needed to resurrect Trek, in its day?

I cannot, will not believe that we do not constitute a base large enough to support a television show, on some network, somewhere.

What would it take for SF channel to commit? They are business people, no doubt. We gain nothing by slandering those in Hollywood who need to pay attention to the bottom line, or by yearning for a more utopian world. Firefly, after all, is about folks tryin' to get by in a distinctly dystopian world.

On the contrary, what we need to do is to come together and convince the bottom-lined, hard-headed business folk of television that Firefly is just that - good business. As our Mal-content said, "I'm here for business."

I don't know about the rest of y'all, but I care more about this show than everything else on TV combined. For the most part, I literally do not have the time for television, nowadays. For Firefly, I make time.

Folks talk about one million copies of Serenity to be sold, theoretically, or similar numbers of Firefly DVDs, in the past . . . (I dunno - I am not an authority, here. The numbers, I'm sure, are on the CoreTex.)

If each of one million fans committed, in some online fashion, to contributing a whopping $1 per episode, we would be able to defray the cost of one hour of expensive, special effects laden TV by $1,000,000.00. If only 100,000 fans were serious enough, but were willing to pay $5 per episode, that would be $500,000.00.

Maybe they could receive special River Tam Decoder Rings, as a token of being among the True Believers? Whatever. Just give me my gorram show back.

I would consider it a better investment in art and entertainment than a cable subscription, for sure. Or 90% of the theater fare, these days.

I don't know how this would work. But I am willing to believe, as the good Shepherd would have us all do,

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BUBBLEOFEARTH

Friday, October 21, 2005 2:13 AM

Shoot. I've already bought the first season 3 times & I'll keep seeing the BDM until it's gone from my state. We don't have cable, and I'd sure as heck put the money we don't spend on thousands of hours of crap (and the few good hours we miss, too) into pre-paying for another season of Firefly.

We talk about how the www brings fans together & has already completely changed, for instance, the way the music industry does things... why not change the TV industry (without having to upset them or pirate anything to do it)? Why not get our show made by paying for it ourselves?

I know. I know. I read a lot of talk like this when Firefly was first cancelled, and everybody said it couldn't be done for one reason or another, but I'd swear there were enough people out there who'd paypal the $$$ straight to Joss to convince him we meant it. A season straight to DVD? A show released for download one ep at a time, for as long as the fans continued to pony up? I'd be one of the prepaid season subscribers. PROMISE.

OH, I want my SHOW BACK. Mayn't I pretty please have it?

CPTJACKMURRAY

Friday, October 21, 2005 2:36 AM

the better the show is the faster it gets yanked off the the air(excluding stargate). needless to say firefly is the best show possibly in the history of coolor T.V., ..., ..., ..., nevermind,...In ,Well, EVER!!!!!!

HARPY101

Friday, October 21, 2005 11:07 PM

I'd love to combine efforts with other Browncoats, but all the established groups are fortressed in my area. They are "full" and not joinable. This seems very Alliance, but oh, well.

And, what is going on with Blockbuster? They will not carry Firefly. They refuse to carry the series.

Not only do they NOT have it, as the store manager told me, "We aren't getting it" (this is sent down from corporate). She also added, "Everybody's been asking, though,"

"Well, if everybody's been asking-"

"I have no control over it," she said.

"So-who do I talk to?"

"You can e-mail Blockbuster at the website,"

"OK," I said.

"Please," she said with a smile, "Get them to let me carry it, would you?"

What the heck is up with that? I'd love to meet these other people who asked, and join with them to make Blockbuster give us an answer.

Guess I'll have to start my own Browncoats group.

Thanks for reading-

Harpy101

"Every decision you make as an artist is important to you at the time and has meaning even if it doesn't add up to a famous black and white movie about a bald guy,"
Joss Wheadon

HARPY101

Friday, October 21, 2005 11:07 PM

I'd love to combine efforts with other Browncoats, but all the established groups are fortressed in my area. They are "full" and not joinable. This seems very Alliance, but oh, well.

And, what is going on with Blockbuster? They will not carry Firefly. They refuse to carry the series.

Not only do they NOT have it, as the store manager told me, "We aren't getting it" (this is sent down from corporate). She also added, "Everybody's been asking, though,"

"Well, if everybody's been asking-"

"I have no control over it," she said.

"So-who do I talk to?"

"You can e-mail Blockbuster at the website,"

"OK," I said.

"Please," she said with a smile, "Get them to let me carry it, would you?"

What the heck is up with that? I'd love to meet these other people who asked, and join with them to make Blockbuster give us an answer.

Guess I'll have to start my own Browncoats group.

Thanks for reading-

Harpy101

"Every decision you make as an artist is important to you at the time and has meaning even if it doesn't add up to a famous black and white movie about a bald guy,"
Joss Wheadon

BARD

Saturday, October 22, 2005 12:00 AM

If you're checking out this site, look also at the new thread under General Discussions: Let's Take It Into Our Own Hands . . .

All this stuff seems like an incredible tool to this newbie, but it also seems the big challenge is to coordinate it all!

Kudos, by the way, to the BDH's that make this whole site work! It offers a dizzying complexity of stuff . . .

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Can't stop the signal!!

MITHEL

Thursday, October 27, 2005 2:03 PM

Come on NBC... you've got a few quality shows... pick up Firefly (no matter how much it costs you to buy out the rights from Fox) and get this great series back on the air in 2006 (I don't think we can survive another "BDM"!).

HARTMEISTER

Saturday, October 29, 2005 9:51 PM

I think that Sci Fi channel is a better location than a big network. Genre (sci-fi in particular) programs tend to do poorly on the network. Sci-Fi works better in the movies because people tend to pay money for special effects. Of course, I can see a day coming up where sci-fi wears out its welcome in the movies as people become jaded about eye dropping special effects.

Even if Serenity had been a box office blockbuster, I don't think the networks believe that Sci-Fi is an exact fit with their audience. There audience tends to like paranormal shows and hates genres that offer either past (think Nero Wolfe on A&E which was described by many as the best show on television yet only survived two seasons on a minor channel) or future (Star Trek, Firefly, etc). They think their audience likes sci-fi only if it is a separate world, like a movie theatre and there is no good way to lead into a sci-fi series. One of the most common ways to build viewership is to have stars from other programs guest star in another program in either their same character or in a slightly different one. This doesn't work as well with historical genre programs, as the stars look weird in a different timeline

Just imagine this promo if Firefly was on ABC:

"On this weeks's Firefly, Desparate Housewives' Tori Hatcher guest tries to kick Inara off Firefly as a companion with something extra..."

I think what will happen to Firefly is very dependent upon what happens with Joss and Wonder Woman. If it is a big success, I don't think Firefly will get much of his attention. Less than bog success Firefly will get some of his attention IF Universal want's it done as either a TV series or movies. But don't be surprised if his role becomes more like an executive producer role and he turns it over to someone else. I think that Joss is now a big time director and would probably want to turn part of the project over to someone else.

I don't know if many people say this but I think there is a real difference between Joss Fans whose who believe is ultimate creation is Firefly and Firefly fans who may (or may not) like Buffy and Angel. I think the general public really has never seen an episode of either Buffy or Angel hearing that they were teenage supernatural programs on Fox. One of the dichatomies of Firefly that its insistence of realism in its depiction of the future makes it quite different than Buffy or Angel in which you have to get past the premise that vampires exist. and that its as much a western as it is sci-fi.

Firefly with its very western appeal (the government is evil) and southern agrarian (corporations are out to get you) message might very well play with southern and western conservatives that wouldn't be caught dead watching a show about a teenage vampire slayer. I'm beginning to think that this may be a slight problem with some of the marketing was that it didn't quite appeal a broad section of the public. One of the wallpaper's for Serenity stated:

From the makers of 'Buffy' and 'Angel'

when that might mean nothing and might actually turn some people off.

What I'd like to see is a demographic breakdown of Firefly fans to see where we need to market this to others. I suspect that we'll find that the bulk of the fans of Firefly are sci-fi or edgy TV fans. But I think the real explosion will be when we expose this show to a broader segment of the public. And I don't mean by TV. Many of those won't watch Sci-Fi channel or wouldn't watch it on broadcast TV either. Instead of reaching out to your neighboor who is a geek, look to that neighbor who likes country music or hunting. Ask them if they've ever seen a sci-fi series with country music ballad as its theme song.

MITHEL

Sunday, October 30, 2005 1:06 PM

Good comments Hartmeister.

I'm favoring NBC since apparently the are part of Universal's corporate network and thus closer to Firefly than ABC or CBS.

"Lost" is considered "Sci-Fi" and it is extremely popular and does great on ABC. Much of what you state reflects what I think the network corporate view of viewers is not the actual viewership themselves.

If NBC put Firefly back on the air I think it would be a smash hit because NBC would bring a large audience (even in today's world of cable TV the three big networks still pull the largest audience shares by a large margin). Once a decent amount of people actually see Firefly it will become very successful (assuming it is made with the same quality as the original series.

I do think marketing Serenity as "by the maker of Buffy and Angel" was a bad move. I know there are a lot of "Joss Fans" that love Buffy and Angel, but seriously I love Firefly and knowing that Joss is responsible / involved with Angel and Buffy turns me away a little. If I'd never seen Firefly and read that I probably would dismiss and ignore Firefly.

From the five times I've seen Serenity the demographic audience seems to be extremely "old" (not the typical "male 16-35" audience!). Serenity seems to be pulling the 50+ crowd (Star Trek fans?). Firefly draws a lot of female viewers. So if I had to sum up the Firefly demographic in super simple terms: "mature, intelligent females". (not to imply at all that there aren't a lot of us "mature, intelligent males" also watching)

Release some action figures (ignore the crappy ones they did release), cool models, a Lego set, some guns, make a PS2 video game and bingo you've got the young male audience. What the networks seem to fail to realize is that Firefly has appeal to every age range and gender! Firefly well marketed on NBC could be one of the top series of all time.

The only negative working against Firefly being phenomenally popular is virtually zero marketing!

YT

Thursday, November 10, 2005 11:44 PM

There were a couple of news items on IMDB yesterday (2005 November 9) that relate to a couple of recent posts in this thread. One is that Blockbuster may be on the verge of bankruptcy. So, you can either say 'Never mind that they won't carry Firefly', or you can write Blockbuster corporate & tell 'em you'd like to patronize their local store, but they don't have Firefly.

The other (Death of Primetime) is that the big three broadcast networks have announced plans to make their content available on demand (VOD / PpV / subscription). This is great news for us. While I don't suggest anyone give up current efforts to save Firefly all on its lonesome, lets look for ways to show our support for this concept. It makes Neilsen ratings obsolete.

Keep the Shiny Side Up . . .

RUBBERDUCKY

Tuesday, November 15, 2005 4:17 AM

your petition inteags me greatly what has happend to quality programing these days there are more reality tv shows then the allience can shake a stick at bring back FIREFLY.

loyal Browncoat

SAFFRONREYNOLDS

Wednesday, November 16, 2005 12:34 AM

I agree that SciFi would be the ideal place to bring back Firefly if Fox won't.

www.cafepress.com/malcolmreynolds

JOSSISAGOD

Wednesday, November 16, 2005 2:12 AM

I believe the FOX network has shown the Firefly/Serenity fans that they don't understand the show/movie like the fans,cast and crew understood them. therefor, FOX will never be the loving home for either a series return or funding a sequel ever again. the SciFi Channel IS a perfect fit for Firefly's return!

IAMMAGPIE

Friday, November 18, 2005 6:02 PM

do they own the rights to firefly? they messed up the order of the first series etc etc..

maybe it could go straight to dvd...

nah, that's a crap idea.

last night i dreamt i fucked kaylee in the ass with a strap on. i woke up and the bed was soaked with cum.

just thought i'd let you know...

JOSSISAGOD

Friday, November 18, 2005 10:21 PM

Yup! FOX owns "Firefly's" Rights, but NOT "Serenity's"

FOX messed up the order of the original airing because they had no real cares about STORY/PLOT, they just wanted something to fill the friday night line up!

Also, just a thought, you might want to rethink your dream sequence, in case an under 14 year old stumbles onto this post.

NELSTRO

Monday, November 21, 2005 4:10 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by humble:
i haven't read too many waves from other browncoats writing about letters they've sent to networks and tv studios about bringing firefly back to the airwaves. are we pinning all our hopes to an iffy movie coming out of universal studios? what if this falls through? i think we should ban together and double our efforts and innundate studios/networks with MORE correspondence than ever! is there a way for fans to petition this with the help of joss and the cast and crew of firefly? i, myself, have written to scifi,universal,upn,wb,etc. i don't think that dvd sales alone are enough to assure the hollywood money people that firefly is a good investment! i think we should continue to stand up and represent our fan interest as well, now more than ever! BROWNCOATS UNITE!!!

LETS MAKE 2004 THE YEAR FIREFLY RETURNS! (signed as always, a loyal browncoat)

Here is a petition to bring back firefly, please sign and hope.

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Monday, November 21, 2005 4:34 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by humble:
i haven't read too many waves from other browncoats writing about letters they've sent to networks and tv studios about bringing firefly back to the airwaves. are we pinning all our hopes to an iffy movie coming out of universal studios? what if this falls through? i think we should ban together and double our efforts and innundate studios/networks with MORE correspondence than ever! is there a way for fans to petition this with the help of joss and the cast and crew of firefly? i, myself, have written to scifi,universal,upn,wb,etc. i don't think that dvd sales alone are enough to assure the hollywood money people that firefly is a good investment! i think we should continue to stand up and represent our fan interest as well, now more than ever! BROWNCOATS UNITE!!!

LETS MAKE 2004 THE YEAR FIREFLY RETURNS! (signed as always, a loyal browncoat)

I think that's because you're two or three years too late. When it was first cancelled, not only was there a massive letter-writing campaign, and not only did Joss Whedon wear himself ragged by taking it to all the other networks, but the Browncoats took out a full-page ad in Variety (I think it was Variety) in which they thanked the cast and creators and vowed to bring the show back. Fast-forward to 2005, and you've got Serenity, because Universal exec Mary Parent is a "Whedon-stalker", and because the DVDs sold so well. As one of the earlier posts mentions, it was probably the initial campaign that got the DVD set made. So the first wave of Browncoats has done an awesome job, one that the latecomers might not know anything about.

FOX was always the wrong network for the show, and Joss knew it the second they sent back the pilot and demanded something with more jokes and more action. (Though...I kinda liked it better when Mal lightened up.) The sticking point is that they own the rights. This is presumably neither here nor there to them, since they don't seem to be considering bringing it back, but it would surely represent an extra impediment to any other station, even if they could be persuaded. It would be an extra expense, another legal hoop to jump through, etc. This is why the Browncoats' strategy is split on the issue, and some are still looking at FOX while others are looking elsewhere.

I personally think that a unified approach is the only way to go, and we should try to find out what the process is for one network selling their rights, how much it costs, how hard it is, etc. Depending on the answers, we should either stick with FOX (which has a history of bailing on quality shows, but also a history of being the only one to show them to start with) or settle on another network, such as ABC or NBC. Or, you know, HBO, which has a history of creating, airing, AND sticking with quality shows.

Vancouver

by the way, you're at least a year too late if you want to make 2004 the year we bring back Firefly.

FIREFLY123DUDE

Tuesday, November 22, 2005 12:03 AM

FIREFLY!FIREFLY!FIREFLY!FIREFLY!FIREFLY!FIREFLY!FIREFLY!FIREFLY!FIREFLY!FIREFLY!FIREFLY!FIREFLY!FIREFLY!FIREFLY!FIREFLY!FIREFLY!FIREFLY!FIREFLY!

SHALL COME BACK! ME LIKE FIREFLY

no realy it should come back to good of a show

TEXAS

Saturday, November 26, 2005 11:20 PM

How do we live in a world where there aren't even 3,000 names on that petition? (It's a rhetorical question, but let fly with the disparaging of Fox as you please.)

CALAEN

Tuesday, November 29, 2005 1:13 PM

I have seen about a couple of online petitions for FireFly, someone has a bright idea then creates one and tells 5 ppl, then someone else creates one.

Instead of creating a thread first telling everyone where the official one is.

online = waste of time unless its organised so that there is only 1 out there for ppl to add names too. Even then I doubt they take much notice.

TEXAS

Tuesday, November 29, 2005 1:50 PM

It's the irony of the growth of the internet. Back in the day ('95 or so), a petition made a lot of sense because there was usually only one effort, one bullhorn that everyone flocked to. Now there are multiple distinct and diluted efforts. But you're right -- even just the one sometimes doesn't help much, such as was the case with Space: Above and Beyond. (Hey, it was the only thing on.)

ELRUSTO2121

Monday, December 12, 2005 4:16 PM

Thats what I'm talking about we can definately get firfefly back back we need to make more noise about it. Just like family guy was brought back we can do the same things with Firefly

El Rusto

MOONGRIM

Saturday, January 14, 2006 4:12 PM

Forget Fox!

They've pulled this kind of stunt before. They Dropped Doctor Who in favor a Pauly Shore Gag Show. (Gag, how appropriate).

They're the ones who thought they pulled a major stunt on George Lucas when he negotiated their continuing to bankroll his first Star Wars movie. They are the reason he's so damned rich in Star Wars now.

I would say the Joss Wheedon should approach Mr. Lucas and see if he's interested in rubbing the nose's of the Fox executives in their stupid mistakes, again.

Moongrim the Heretic

MOUNTAINBOY

Friday, January 20, 2006 7:40 PM

interesting idea Moongrim. I'm very new to Firefly but completely hooked already!!
would love to see more series of our beloved show (maybe even another movie?) but i think i read somewhere that it wasn't just down to Fox being uppity? wasn't sure if it was Fox bigwig trying to make excuses

FORGOTN

Tuesday, January 24, 2006 9:01 AM

everbody is talking and nobody is doing. I think that SciFi looks like our best hope since Joss won't work with Fox anymore (not that i would trust them with the Verse myself) So here is the Info for doing a mail campaign. Also, point of fact, there are a lot more of us now, why not try an organized, pointed campaign again. With any luck JW might have some fertile ground to sow the seeds of a new show once he finishes with WW.

Okay people, here is some SciFi Info.

Address:
Sci-Fi Channel USA
1230 Avenue of the Americas
New York, NY
10020

Email:
feedback@scifi.com
program@scifi.com

Home Page
http://www.scifi.com

Also, another point of intrest, SciFi.com has there own BBoard. It might be a good idea to get everybody here to register there and start chatting up about our beloved Verse. If there own site is clogged with Firefly fans then they have to know that we exist. And that we like them. Just a thought.

GRIMJACK21502

Tuesday, January 24, 2006 1:42 PM

Nice

"And once you're gone, you can never come back
When you're out of the blue and into the black"
-Neil Young

IANW

Monday, April 10, 2006 2:02 AM

anyone rolling with this?

i think the petitions for the HBO/Cinemax is a good idea-> the goal is 100,000 people to sign and they're 11,000 so far.

DINOSYS

Tuesday, April 11, 2006 5:55 PM

I think I started this the wrong way around, but no matter. Serenity was my introduction to the Firefly universe, and I fell totaly for the consept. I quickly got hold of the Firefly DVD to see more of the universe and to get to know the characters better.

I can't say I understand their reason for closing down the show. There is so much more I want to know about the characters and the universe.
What did they replace Firefly with? Since I'm not from the US I have no idea, so if someone could tell me I would appreciate it

Now the topic issue. Is there any way I can help to try to get Firefly back on the screen? Since I'm rather new I haven't had time to read everything that has happened yet.
Any and all pointers would be great

<- Dinosys ->

IANW

Tuesday, April 11, 2006 10:55 PM

well, i've decided to take my own front.

I have a login for fox's message board and i'm posting comments on there. I don't know what impact anything will have, but ya knwo what? i'm at work, kinda bored so what harm can it do? nothing.

The only large impact i can see myself having on firefly's sucess is having a charity screening of serenity on june 23rd, but i'm too busy for that since i'm taking summer calc II (compressed into 6 weeks, eek) and will be busy untill june 29th. I'ms till trying to work out the kinks thought, i mimght be able to swing it.

it seems like the vets have slowly accepted defeat while the new recruits (like myself) want to start war.

what else can i do? i'm writing letters once a week to HBO, SCI-FI and CineMAX and Fox....if anyone else can think of somthing, share please :)

GUYWHOWANTSAFIREFLYOFHISOWN

Wednesday, June 28, 2006 9:32 AM

no HBO or cinemax or any of those

not everyone gets them remember?

and not everyone can afford to

I'm gonna try the fux account thing and see what I can do

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/llama.php
-try it out, I dare you

98% of teens have smoked pot, if you are one of the 2% that haven't, copy this into your signature

I'm so into Firefly, my butt glows in the dark.

MISSTRESSAHARA

Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:26 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by ianw:
well, i've decided to take my own front.

I have a login for fox's message board and i'm posting comments on there. I don't know what impact anything will have, but ya knwo what? i'm at work, kinda bored so what harm can it do? nothing.

The only large impact i can see myself having on firefly's sucess is having a charity screening of serenity on june 23rd, but i'm too busy for that since i'm taking summer calc II (compressed into 6 weeks, eek) and will be busy untill june 29th. I'ms till trying to work out the kinks thought, i mimght be able to swing it.

it seems like the vets have slowly accepted defeat while the new recruits (like myself) want to start war.

what else can i do? i'm writing letters once a week to HBO, SCI-FI and CineMAX and Fox....if anyone else can think of somthing, share please :)

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That's because you haven't fought as long as we have. Take another 2 years and we'll see.

We're still fighting, we got the movie after all didn't we?

If I'm a bitch, then life just got interesting

MISSTRESSAHARA

Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:27 AM

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it seems like the vets have slowly accepted defeat while the new recruits (like myself) want to start war.
Quote:

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That's because you haven't fought as long as we have. Take another 2 years and we'll see.

We're still fighting, we got the movie after all didn't we?

If I'm a bitch, then life just got interesting

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MISSTRESSAHARA

Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:28 AM

Gorram double post.

If I'm a bitch, then life just got interesting

AMNEEZIAC

Saturday, July 8, 2006 10:32 AM

I am a newly converted Firefly fan. I just bought the series on iTunes, watched the first episode, and then I couldn't stop. Went straight through all of them.

The reason I did this is because a friend persisted until I gave in and bought the series. I think this is the most effective way of helping to bring Firefly back. Word of mouth, increasing the fandom exponentially until millions have been converted. If every Firefly fan got three people hooked, and then those three people, etc. it'd be a madhouse. We need this show, we need it. I know I need it.

So let's spread the word. I'm sure this has been said a thousand times, but a thousand more couldn't hurt.

FOLLOWMAL

Sunday, July 9, 2006 2:17 AM

Nope, a thousand more couldn't hurt at all!
Welcome home, by the way, because that is where you are.

We all fall in love with Firefly.. thank you for sharing your story. I saw my first ep and ordered the DVD's that night. When I got them I couldn't quit watching until I was done. My life has not been the same since.

This is a shiny site... we're a pretty friendly albeit weird bunch around here.

When a new person joins the site we have a tradition of greeting them with food and drink ( virtual, mind you.) and with a browncoat of their very own. You needs yours...

*hands Amneeziac a browncoat*

There you are. You have your gear. We are currently fighting hard to get Firefly/Serenity back. We have a campaign going called the Serenity Summer Campaign. Starting next week we are going to be very busy posting at other sites to share the news that Firefly will be on all day long on a marathon on SciFi as the lead in to their big Stargate premiere night. I think it's a very wise choice they've made and we're gonna write them and thank them and ask them for more.
We have much more planned for the future.

Join us?

Oh, and make yourself to home... we'll be nearby.

"You hold. Hold 'til I get back." Mal

Click here www.fireflyfans.net for info about the Serenity Summer Campaign and how you can help!

PENGUIN

Sunday, July 9, 2006 2:20 AM

What do you mean..."weird?"

FOLLOWMAL

Sunday, July 9, 2006 2:23 AM

"You hold. Hold 'til I get back." Mal

Click here www.fireflyfans.net for info about the Serenity Summer Campaign and how you can help!

SHADOWFLY

Sunday, July 9, 2006 2:24 AM

Bah! A boatload of children.

GUYWHOWANTSAFIREFLYOFHISOWN

Sunday, July 9, 2006 4:12 AM

also amneeziac for sharing your story you get a virtual pistol

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/llama.php
-try it out, I dare you

98% of teens have smoked pot, if you are one of the 2% that haven't, copy this into your signature

I'm so into Firefly, my butt glows in the dark.

GUYWHOWANTSAFIREFLYOFHISOWN

Sunday, July 9, 2006 4:12 AM

also amneeziac for sharing your story you get a virtual pistol

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/llama.php
-try it out, I dare you

98% of teens have smoked pot, if you are one of the 2% that haven't, copy this into your signature

I'm so into Firefly, my butt glows in the dark.

GUYWHOWANTSAFIREFLYOFHISOWN

Sunday, July 9, 2006 4:12 AM

also amneeziac for sharing your story you get a virtual pistol

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/llama.php
-try it out, I dare you

98% of teens have smoked pot, if you are one of the 2% that haven't, copy this into your signature

I'm so into Firefly, my butt glows in the dark.

GUYWHOWANTSAFIREFLYOFHISOWN

Sunday, July 9, 2006 4:12 AM

also amneeziac for sharing your story you get a virtual pistol

*hands over the pistol*

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/llama.php
-try it out, I dare you

98% of teens have smoked pot, if you are one of the 2% that haven't, copy this into your signature

I'm so into Firefly, my butt glows in the dark.

BROWNCOATCRUSADER

Wednesday, November 15, 2006 3:50 AM

I vote we bypass Joss and get NBC to air it. This will kick the crap out of "LOST". We could also storm Fox and use "Italian Diplomacy" to get the show back on. If I think of any ideas that don't piss off our main man, Joss, or get us arrested I'll let you know

"I don't care what you believe, just believe Something!"

DICKIE

Friday, November 17, 2006 4:44 PM

How could Firefly come back when so many of the threads that made the show compelling were closed off in Serenity? River's secret is revealed, Shepherd and Wash are dead, Kaylee finally gets laid, the Reavers are mainstream and mostly dead after clashing with the alliance.

How Whedon could resurrect a series that his film looked suspiciously designed to finish I don't know but I am no film maker. Maybe he could pull it off, but I don't think he actually wants to.

I thought the series was excellent and wasn't happy when it was killed-off before being given a chance, but things move on and I think it's for the best to wave g'bye to an excellent show.

LOOPY

Saturday, November 18, 2006 3:49 PM

Howdy, folks! New to all of this but extremely excited about it. One of my employees loaned me the first disc from the series a week ago and that very evening after watching it,I ran out bought the series and the movie. I love it and feel akin to the characters and stories. I know all of this has been said one way or another and might sound a bit goopy. How do we go about getting more?

NETFIEND007

Monday, November 27, 2006 1:37 AM

There are many storie lines that could be explored. How about after seeing the truth of what happened on Meranda there is a second Brown Coat rising lead by.... Mal and the crew. I think that that would make a very good second season. The River storyline is far from over, Heck if they wanted to they could persue a story that involved the Allance using the Reavers as berserker soilders. the possiblilities are endless.

If there is no spoon, What the heck am I eating with?

SUMMERDREAM

Monday, January 22, 2007 6:31 AM

There is so much life left in firefly and serenity it could explode. I want the show back; I want another movie and more. I am sure everyone ever involved wants more. Some characters died in the movie but there is still plenty to be said. Thankyou joss, I love the world and the universe of firefly so much and I dream and hope for more to come.

Lets keep it going!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

more,

GHOULFISH

Thursday, February 8, 2007 11:51 PM

I hope that if firefly the series or second movie is made that they will find some way to reicorporate Wash into the script

(crosses fingers and prays for more firefly)

GOTTHAMMER

Friday, February 9, 2007 12:12 AM

I'd want to see more, too. It's a pity I only got to see both Firefly and Serenity recently (not more than a month's span, I think).

As for Wash/Book reappearing: as flashbacks, I guess...I mean, there still seems to be a fairly large gap between the original series and the movie (or will the comics fill that up?)

GHOULFISH

Friday, February 9, 2007 1:37 AM

Yeah i have been introduced to firefly in the last two weeks

I think that we must do all that we can to bring it back

BROWNCOATBRETT

Friday, February 16, 2007 5:41 PM

I absolutely concur that we must do everything to bring the show back. I'd ask y'all to check out the Guerilla Marketing room on this board and share your ideas there. Lots of good ideas there on steps we can take to turn our desire for MORE!!! into action. Do what ever you can to loan the DVDs out to friends and when they're hooked, invite them on over to the site and hand them a stack-o-handbills to give to all THEIR friends. KEEP THE SIGNAL GOING!!!!!

TELCOD

Thursday, March 15, 2007 4:43 PM

Well put. Need someone to step up. Could be you, could be me.

I live in the Black

Sign the petition or fade
http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/bringbackfirefly Captain B