6-6-06… Analyze, Prophesize, Organize… Armageddon Block Party…WooHoo
POSTED BY: Dayve
UPDATED: Tuesday, June 6, 2006 21:31
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Well, boys and girls, I see by the old caesium-beam atomic clock on the bunkhouse wall that we’re rolling up to 6/6/06 and I haven’t heard much noise from the End-of-the-Worlders or the multitudes of Fuzzy-Wuzzys about the big day. So, with a bit of hesitation, I want to open this can of worms for discussion, debate or full scale sermonizing.
Here is your chance to throw down. Whichever branch of the great religious tree you swing from – be it: Christianity; Islam; Secular/Agnostic/Atheist; Hinduism; Buddhism; Primal-Indigenous; Sikhism; Spiritism; Judaism; Baha’i; Jainism; Shinto; Cao Dai; Zoroastrianism; Neo-Paganism; Unitarian-Universalism; Rastafarianism; Scientology; Followers of the Shoe….. or any newly coined ‘isms’ of the day. I want to hear your predictions on Tuesday’s ominous numerical meaning. Will there be a rain of toads, crack of doom, Glorious rejoicing, or simply stale pizza for breakfast..
About the only thing that I am fairly sure of is that there will almost certainly be a huge paper jam in the first floor copying machine. I think it is possessed by a chaos demon…possibly Grah-Hoth or even the Anti-Christ himself. I intend to keep an eye on this un-holy machine and have a pointy stick on hand just in case.
So, fire away – play nice and always remember to respect one another’s vague, superstitious beliefs no matter how ridiculous they may seem.
EDIT: 6/6/06... so far, so good... i did count 6 dead armadillos within a 6 mile stretch of highway before 6 am this morning...
eerie... but fairly normal for texas....
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Hmm. Not really too much to say. My beliefs don't lean towards worrying about a human-created stamp for a temporal phenomenon...basically, it will be another random Tuesday for me. Might go see Omen though. And I will be partying with the Forsaken in our thread.![]()
Holding until you get back, Captain.
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Since I never really credited the calender with any kind of meaning, I have to say I don't think anything will happen. "The Omen" will come out and people who are freaked out about that kind of thing will see the movie and be scared, and the world will keep moving on its course. Not to mention I never really credited the bible with much more than symbolic meaning. There's no Satan outside of our own selves, which means, well, no Satan can show up to rain hellfire on us. Unless we personally decide to sit in the dark and twitch on the Day of the Beast, there will be no misery. (Why is 666 the Number of the Beast, anyway?)
I too am surprised that the End-of-the-Worlders haven't been making a fuss. Shocked, even.
Anyway, there's my take. Have fun, Fuzzy-Wuzzies! 
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Originally posted by Penguin:
Don't forget
I have been touched by His noodly appendage!
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Quote:I wouldn't spread it around, people might start to talk.
Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
I have been touched by His noodly appendage!
As we all know next Tuesday is judgement day, when Satan will rise to take his place at the forefront of the global British-Commie-Nazi-Alien-Jew who are responcible for all wars in their efforts to take over the world which they already control.
He will marry the German British Queen who controls the world with her German British mind Kontrol.
The NAFTA-CAFTA-SHAFTA-IWOULDLIKEAMOCHA will continue to enslave drink drivers whose drinking before and during driving is well known to increase your reactions and make you a safer driver.
For I read the book of PirateNews.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
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I'm personally waiting for the end of the Mayan calendar (2012). I've been hearing about it for decades, and I admit to some curiosity in how people will react when, in the immortal words of the Beetles - "it's just another day".
No slur on anyone who posts here who believes.
Nearly everything I know I learned by the grace of others.
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Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
(Why is 666 the Number of the Beast, anyway?)
Mark of the Beast
Revelation 13:16-18 states:
"Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead, so that no one can buy or sell who does not have the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of his name. This calls for wisdom: let anyone with the understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a person. Its number is six hundred and sixty-six."
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Having watched "pi" (great film), the Hebrew alphabet is associated with numbers. (Kabbalah) Could 666 spell something?
Nearly everything I know I learned by the grace of others.
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Originally posted by rue:
Having watched "pi" (great film), the Hebrew alphabet is associated with numbers. (Kabbalah) Could 666 spell something?
taken from: http://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/666.htm
It might be argued by some that 666 must be applied to one man's name, and that this will then help identify him as the antichrist. I would offer the following verse to show that 666 need not apply solely to a man's name:
Rev 19:16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
The same Greek word translated as name (onoma: G3686) that appears in Revelation 13:17-18 is also used in chapter 19:16, so clearly the word can also apply to a title, and not just one man's name.....
check the link above for more than you really want to know about 666 - Hebrew, Latin and Greek translations
(pi - great film)
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Now you are the third person, including me, who I know has seen pi.
About 6-6-06 - this is the absolute perfect time for those T shirts !
We aim to burn.
Don't fear the reaper.
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if we all get past 6-6-06, my favorite tshirt have the date 1-20-09... bush's last day in office
btw... good post in the stolen election thread... i haven't gotten my Rolling Stone yet, but was anxious to read what Kennedy had written... thanks
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And on that day there shall be much gnashing of teeth and a great rubbing of parts as Molech shall reveal himself to the world and then be arrested for lewd behaviour.
And God shall send forth his heavenly Angels and they shall appear in the 4,4,2 formation for the England football team in the world cup because we need a bloody miracle.
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Originally posted by rue:
in the immortal words of the Beetles - "it's just another day"
1) The name of the band is The Beatles.
2) Another Day was recorded by Paul McCartney & Wings.
I'm not sure which of these little faux pas has me more annoyed.
David
"Not completely as well as the series of Firefly..." - From a review of Serenity at amazon.de
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You caught me in some major errors there. The world's gonna fall apart now, I'm tellin 'ya.
But I apologize for the annoyance.
Nearly everything I know I learned by the grace of others.
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Originally posted by citizen:
As we all know next Tuesday is judgement day, when Satan will rise to take his place at the forefront of the global British-Commie-Nazi-Alien-Jew who are responcible for all wars in their efforts to take over the world which they already control.
He will marry the German British Queen who controls the world with her German British mind Kontrol.
The NAFTA-CAFTA-SHAFTA-IWOULDLIKEAMOCHA will continue to enslave drink drivers whose drinking before and during driving is well known to increase your reactions and make you a safer driver.
For I read the book of PirateNews.
If I were all you I'd be more worried about 6/7/06 because that’s the day I kill the British-Commie-Nazi-Alien-Jew overlords of Earth and take over. Suffice it to say Satan will be answering to me...
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Originally posted by oldenglanddry:
we need a bloody miracle.
and like the mighty Phoenix rising from Arizona, the Nash shall lead them - past the woeful Mavericks... verily I say unto thee..... for the Nash is like unto water through the sieve penetrating the porous man to man d......
all praise Nash
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Originally posted by rue:
You caught me in some major errors there. The world's gonna fall apart now, I'm tellin 'ya.
The world can't end yet. The Cubs haven't won the world series.
David
"Not completely as well as the series of Firefly..." - From a review of Serenity at amazon.de
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Originally posted by daveshayne:
The world can't end yet. The Cubs haven't won the world series.
they're gonna get a couple more shots after the rapture....if they can't beat nobody, well it's the showers for good.....
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citizen wrote (in part):
As we all know next Tuesday is judgement day,
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Better than that. Here in California, USA, we're holding a Primary Election.
Talk about contemplation of everything from evil to plain ol' stupidity...
bun
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Bun, seems every election for the past 5 years has been hell on earth....
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...longer than five....far longer...
yesterday on the radio somebody asked why there was no place on the ballot that said just "NO"
...not even "none of the above" but simply "NO"
*the bun shakes her hanging chad and weeps in frustration*
bun
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There will most definitely be a paper jam in the 1st floor copy machine because I inhabit that particular copy machine and like to wreak havoc on your workday. I may cause one in the 2nd floor copy machine as well if you aren't careful.
After I'm done ruining your day at work, I will be partying like the rock star I am in the Forsaken thread, even though I'm woefully behind at the moment.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dayve:
and like the mighty Phoenix rising from Arizona
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i just wanted to make a few comments:
-first off, Satan does exist. i know some of you imagine this stereotypical pagan, red devil with a pitch-fork goatman...but the truth is that this was a being so perfect, even in Gods eyes, that he decieved himself with his conceitedness. Satan was the most powerful created being among "Gods children", and it is fully within his capability to decieve mankind, through twisted false truths. its been his intention from our creation to alienate us from God, to show mankind unworthy of God(as in Job for ex.). before we "ate of the knowledge", we walked among the living God; everything was provided to us solely on faith, on instinct, and the truth was all we knew, we were innocent and shameless. i imagine its similar to an animals behavior patterns, in that they are in harmony with nature, and fullfill the roles in nature that were designated to them! that was taken from us, and thats the neccessity for redeemption at Jesus resurrection.
i hear this argument all the time: "i dont need to blame injustices on some boogy man. humans have the ability to do whats right without being constrained to some conformative religious figure". the Bible says that to deny Jesus is to deny the father, for if you knew Jesus, you would know God. Now no one is righteous in Gods sight, but by his mercy, through the grace of Jesus. since sin exists within Man, Man ultimately is in control of his own conscience, but the knowledge of good and *evil left Man susceptible to his sinful instinctual desires, which lead to death.
God says himself that the desires of Mans heart was sin all the time! we are not born a clean slate, and the possibility to rise above our fallen nature in Satans spritual age is next to impossible without Jesus. that may seem ludicrous, but to reject the messiah is to reject the truth, literally
-obviously 6-6-06 is just a marketing gimmick to promote the Omen movie; however, i wouldnt marginalize the signifance of numerology to the powers that be. like Satan, while he can not create something, he can manipulate and alter Gods creations. well, the laws of the universe exist, and similar to astrology, they can be harnessed and benefitted from. here are some links http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=occult+numerology
-and speaking of the mark of the beast, this is going around among christian circles, but the Real ID act, essentially an RFID chip with every last shred of information on you, which is scheduled to go into effect summer of '08 i believe...may very well be the mark. the bible says that no one may buy or sale without recieving the mark on their hands or foreheads. well, the Real ID INCLUDES a biometric thumbscan(mark on the hand), and an Iris scan identifier(mark on the forehead). this is dangerously close to biblical prophecy..especially considering these other relevant details:
-the Real ID is in response to illegal immigration. everyone knows that we're in this mess because the American and Mexican elite WANT a slave class, and by suppressing their citizens theyve created this mass migration. its not because Americans wont do certain jobs, we wont do them for slave wages! the Globalists used the Free Trade Agreements to concentrate massive amounts of wealth, and now the next phase is bring in the slaves! instead of enforcing our national borders, and throwing the heat on the Mexican government, the shadow agenda is to eliminate and subvert American sovereignty, and creat a global tracking system. thats whats happening..if its not being blasted in our faces in the news, that ought to tell us something
-America doesnt have to come under the control of the anti-christ, but the occultists are steering us in that direction. some out their fancifully believe that events are occuring out of incompetence and complacency, at random, that governments are benevolent and that their is no conspiracy. those people will have an increasingly difficult time making sense of the world, and the direction that politics and economics will take
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dayve:Quote:
Originally posted by daveshayne:
The world can't end yet. The Cubs haven't won the world series.
they're gonna get a couple more shots after the rapture....if they can't beat nobody, well it's the showers for good.....
What makes you think the rest of MLB will get the disapearing act. It's not on the whole the most angelic organization.
David
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Originally posted by SonofMan:
time for Americans to realize that nows the time to act and expose this conspiracy, or many will be swept away in THE LIE
I've got to say that I agree with many of your assertions, the Real ID act being one that I've expected for some time now. And if indeed implemented, Biblical prophecy not withstanding, will, IMHO, be the harbinger of an Orwellian type of society in which the inhabitants of this country, and perhaps eventually the world, will be subjugated to the totalitarian, authoritative rule of a power, or force, not unlike that of what some perceive to be a demonic presence. And if, in fact, as many conspiracy theorists have asserted, this force has been with us since the dawn of mankind, whether man-made or from outside the realm of man’s consensuses, it does indeed seem to be gathering momentum at this particular juncture in the history of the world.
THE LIE that you speak of has never been more evident to me than in recent presidential elections. A vast number of citizens in this country have been reduced to willing pawns in a power struggle that, if successful, can only eventually perpetuate the class-based society. If the sleeping giant that is the citizenry of this nation refuses to wake up and learn to think for themselves instead of blindly accepting information that only benefits those in a position of power, then I fear for future generations of this country and the entire planet.
I know this may sound like something from a science fiction novel of apocalyptic end times, but science fiction is one thing that draws many of us to this site and these discussions. As we’ve all witnessed, many things that were, only a few years ago, considered merely science fiction, have come to pass in our lifetime. I’ve lived long enough to see things that those before me would have considered impossible, and so I reserve the right to keep all options open and all possibilities on the table.
Sonofman, thanks for your post, it is certainly food for thought.
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Quote:SonofMan, you understand much, and post better. Thank you.
Originally posted by SonofMan:
they believe 19 hijackers alone forever changed the direction of history. terrorists can achieve conspiracies...but not multi-trillion dollar elitist entities?
Skynet Chrisisall
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Quote:There is a saying among Intelligence Services and Spec Ops teams:
Originally posted by SonofMan:
yet, they believe 19 hijackers alone forever changed the direction of history. terrorists can achieve conspiracies...but not multi-trillion dollar elitist entities? i mean...the hypocracy!
"The odds of success are inversely proportional to the number of people involved."
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But the world can't blow up Tuesday.
There's the second part of Doctor Who on Saturday. And it was a great cliffhanger!!! (for us Brits that is...)

"Remember, always be yourself. Unless you suck."-Joss Whedon
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thanks guys for the nice words.. im just glad you all acknowledge these things with me... every once in awhile, its great not to be argued with!..although im sure im speaking pre-maturely
either way we all refuse to let America come under the control of a global UN type authority. its not hard to imagine the reigns of such an oppressive mechanism being handed over to elements with a conflict of interests, which are opposed to the rights of the individual. to christians, this system is the beast, and to suffer the same fate that the EU most definately has, and will..would be a travesty. if any country in history has the ability to opt out, and take opposition against the tyranical nature of this techno-serfdom police state, its the US; and since Americans have prevented this global government agenda up to this point, maybe Biblical prophecy isnt clear about our role in the tribulation(apparently 10 nations make up the Antichrists reign)because we, the beacon of freedom and liberty in the world, have as good a chance as any to expose whats happening, and prevent our role it!
but like others have said, we must snap out of this apathy and indifference, and this mind lock that the establishment has on us, so that we may recognize the molevolence of this plot. it seems because of our prominance, the goal has been to subvert and undermine Americas ideals, and our sovereignty, in order that the agenda may commence full swing, indefinately. we are well along this road already, only its not too late to take a rough cut off-road to avoid this final destination. obviously, since the clock is ticking, this time period is pivotal, and our objective vigilance is vital
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Quote:I missed that quote. As to the question, of course they can't.
Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:SonofMan, you understand much, and post better. Thank you.
Originally posted by SonofMan:
they believe 19 hijackers alone forever changed the direction of history. terrorists can achieve conspiracies...but not multi-trillion dollar elitist entities?
Skynet Chrisisall
1 person can keep a secret, 2 people will find it a little more difficult, 20 even harder, 200 near impossible, 2000, 20,000...
This is something we see through out life. Very emotive saying 19 hijackers can change the direction of history with their conspiracy, but of course they didn't, did they.
The hijackers killed 6000 people, which is pretty much the limit to what such a small group can do and pays testament to how simple, vicious, audacious and for want of a better term brilliant their plan was, and indeed how badly the authorities fucked up.
What they did not do is change American foreign policy (from funding to killing terrorists I might add). They did not go to war with Afghanistan nor Iraq. Bush did these things and however you view the moral implications of these actions or how they are being conducted the leader of arguably the most powerful nation on Earth changing the course of world history is hardly surprising.
But if you really want to hear about an evil corporate conspiracy here's one:
Microsoft wants to control the entire software market and they'll stoop to illegal and underhand business practices and probably even bribing of officials to do it.
Shocking I know.
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Quote:Wow, even the pope doesn't speak for all Christians.
Originally posted by sonofman:
to christians, this system is the beast, and to suffer the same fate that the EU most definately has, and will..would be a travesty.
But anyway, what exactly, in your opinion, is actually happening in the EU?
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Quote:They changed a lot. Families all over the world will be in pain for years. They gave Bush carte blanche to speed up his agenda. They increased hatred for Muslims as far as the fearful and small-minded go.
Originally posted by citizen:
Very emotive saying 19 hijackers can change the direction of history with their conspiracy, but of course they didn't, did they.
Maybe they didn't change the direction, but they increased the momentum.
Chrisisall

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Citizen wrote:
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1 person can keep a secret, 2 people will find it a little more difficult, 20 even harder, 200 near impossible, 2000, 20,000...
Or, as Stalin put it, "Two can keep a secret, if one of them is dead." :)
As for 6/6/06, to me it ain't nuthin' but a number. Hell, 666 is just another number, too. Screw what "the bible says" - because unless you're reading the original stone tablets or papyrus scrolls in the original Arameic, you don't really have any idea what the bible says. You know what an interpretation of a translation of a translation of an interpretation says. (And it's still just a bunch of parables and simplistic moral codes. Might as well believe in and worship comic book characters). And even then, only if it was a gospel that was agreed upon by the early church. Entire books of scripture were edited, deleted, censored, and completely left out of the "accepted" teachings of early Christianity. Then in later ages, only nobility and clergy were allowed to learn to read and write, under penalty of death; no wonder kings were always chosen by "divine right"! "See? The Bible says it right here. I'm supposed to be King. Really. Trust me. That's what it says. Ask my bishop."
Mike
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Quote:This is not a change in world history; this is what happens when a family member dies.
Originally posted by Chrisisall:
They changed a lot. Families all over the world will be in pain for years.
More people have died through terrorism in other countries and those countries haven't changed the course of world history.
Quote:Bush had the agenda, Bush speeded it up. The people who hate Muslims increased their own hatred, because it's easier to be blinded by hate than to actually LEARN something.
They gave Bush carte blanche to speed up his agenda. They increased hatred for Muslims as far as the fearful and small-minded go.
9/11 is the excuse for a great many things today, and the cause of very few. The above statement tries to push the logical fallacy that if a small poor group can do something so can a large monied group.
Big corporations are permanently in the public view, small groups of fanatics disappear, you can look straight at them and miss them completely.
For a cogent analogy, try to smuggle a Mouse out of a Zoo. Once you've done that, try an Elephant.
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Citizen, you always pull that logic crap in discussions. So irritating....
Anyway, what I took from the above was: if a group with limited resources could effect a change, a group with near-unlimited resources could too.
Money can buy silence and make the holders of secrets disappear.
Black Helecopter Chrisisall
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Quote:Get over it
Originally posted by Chrisisall:
Citizen, you always pull that logic crap in discussions. So irritating....

Quote:Yes a large rich corporation can affect change. They do it everyday when the 'influence' the court not to break them up for anti-trust laws, when the 'influence' a rival CEO's bank account...
Anyway, what I took from the above was: if a group with limited resources could effect a change, a group with near-unlimited resources could too.
Money can buy silence and make the holders of secrets disappear.
A big corporation’s conspiracy can be read about in the papers.
Let's say Megacorp is part of a conspiracy to have Megacorp Mind Kontrol chips inserted in peoples brains. Bob, from accounting notices that a huge amount of capital is just disappearing. He delves a bit deeper and finds it's going to a non-existent department.
Soon he delivers his findings to his Boss; his Boss delivers his findings to his Boss, who is in on it. Now there are two people who know something they shouldn't. So either they kill them, or they pay them off.
If they pay them off people might start too ask why it is that Bob and his Boss both suddenly left and are living in the Bahamas, the secret spreads.
If they kill them then Bob and his bosses respective families will probably start to wonder what happened to them. So they kill their families and they're extended family starts to wonder why they don't receive Christmas cards anymore. The secret spreads.
The more people and resources that a conspiracy requires the easier and faster it will be discovered. If you've got one Rabbit turd in your garden it's going to be easier to cover up than what's left behind by a herd of diarehtic Elephants.
Sure there's corporate conspiracies, but you can read about them in the Financial Times, we don't need someone with some sort of divine knowledge to point them out
.A nation or a corporation can do everything that a terrorist group can do and more, but they CAN'T do it in secret.
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Quote:I just worry about the clods that think they can keep s**t secret, and do lots of damage before being found out.
Originally posted by citizen:
Sure there's corporate conspiracies, but you can read about them in the Financial Times, we don't need someone with some sort of divine knowledge to point them out.
A nation or a corporation can do everything that a terrorist group can do and more, but they CAN'T do it in secret.
*CoughEnron*
*CoughMKultra*
*CoughIranContra*
AND about spin doctors that can make the public not care or 'forget' about such discoveries.
Smart Evil Person to lackey:
"Okay, keep it secret, until it looks like it's gonna get out, then we blow it ourselves, and attach the proper embelishment, and by the time the truth is completely revealed, who'll care?"
Sheeple Chrisisall
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That's kind of my point, all the big scary national and corporate conspiracies are right out in the open.
It's just that nobody gives a shit.
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Originally posted by citizen:
nobody gives a shit.
and it's high time that they did...
btw, there are a few of us give-a-shiters around..but we are terribly outnumbered by the extreme don't-give-a-shiters.... which makes us give-a-shiters have to work that much harder to convince the non give-a-shiters to give a shit...
it's a perilous journey, but one worth taking...
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Citizen wrote:Quote:
1 person can keep a secret, 2 people will find it a little more difficult, 20 even harder, 200 near impossible, 2000, 20,000...
Or, as Stalin put it, "Two can keep a secret, if one of them is dead." :)
As for 6/6/06, to me it ain't nuthin' but a number. Hell, 666 is just another number, too. Screw what "the bible says" - because unless you're reading the original stone tablets or papyrus scrolls in the original Arameic, you don't really have any idea what the bible says. You know what an interpretation of a translation of a translation of an interpretation says. (And it's still just a bunch of parables and simplistic moral codes. Might as well believe in and worship comic book characters). And even then, only if it was a gospel that was agreed upon by the early church. Entire books of scripture were edited, deleted, censored, and completely left out of the "accepted" teachings of early Christianity. Then in later ages, only nobility and clergy were allowed to learn to read and write, under penalty of death; no wonder kings were always chosen by "divine right"! "See? The Bible says it right here. I'm supposed to be King. Really. Trust me. That's what it says. Ask my bishop."
Mike
668 - The Neighbor of The Beast
i understand where your comments are coming from...but i disagree whole heartedly. what your talking about is Gnosticism, or gaining spiritualy by enlightenment; it didnt arrive until 2-3 centuries after Jesus' death, which is far enough removed to be clueless as to the real Jesus, which doesnt bode well for their position on accuracy.
if we're talking about the NT, there is more evidence to support its authenticity, faithfull translation, and historical accuracy then any other set or scribes or documents IN HISTORY. no other religion has the wealth(literally thousands) of early manuscripts, or corroborating evidence as Christianity.
-first off, the synoptics, the 3 gospils, WERE written by Matthew, Mark and Luke within a lifetime of Jesus', despite the popular claim of distant, numerous authorship. the book of John was written by a John, only we dont know if it was the apostle or the elder, yet theres no question of its authenticity. Paul, who wrote Romans..has letters dating to within a few yrs of Jesus ressurection. there are numerous 1st and 2nd century writers who confirmed this, including Papias and Irenaeus. to date, what was recorded has been found to be credible and consistant.. so if you are going to deny additional references, why not discount everything of ancient history..its the only way to discredit these testimonies.
for example, Buddha lived during the 6th century BC, but his account wasnt recorded until the 1st AD; the Gathas of Zoraster existed in 1200bc, but werent recorded until 3rd century AD, and theyre regarded as authentic..despite the 1500yr difference! alexanders biography wasnt written for 500 or so years after his existence as well...so lets be straight, this is outright bias on the part of skeptics, who'll except anything other then what we have to offer
-secondly, what good would it do to record Jesus' life and teachings, if he wasnt the Son of God, wasnt crucified and wasnt ressurected on the third day? we are Christians because we understand Yeshua was God. it would all be irrelevant if he never rose from the dead. so someone making a historical account, 2000yrs ago, would concentrate on the most relevant of events, which happened in the final years of his life! there are no questions about his message, because his numerous disciples recorded his teachings, and we have a wealth of information about him, including from un-sympathetic sources, such as Josephus, Pilate, Tacitus, and even the Talmud, all of which mentions Jesus' and what we know of him
-archeological evidence has proven atleast that the NT SO-FAR has yet to be disproven, contradicted or in error over historical dates, places or events. we even have documentation of the sky turning black
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Originally posted by citizen:Quote:Wow, even the pope doesn't speak for all Christians.
Originally posted by sonofman:
to christians, this system is the beast, and to suffer the same fate that the EU most definately has, and will..would be a travesty.
But anyway, what exactly, in your opinion, is actually happening in the EU?
to put it simply, the EU makes up the original Roman empire, which Biblically will most likely become the kingdom of the anti-christ. the European central Banks, a collection of families essentially, now run that part of the world, like the Fed does here. and likewise the once sovereign countries have been consilidated under a single entity, the EU, and is run by a UN type government. since the secret societies originated there, it stands to reason that they would be further along than we are. if i am to use the UK as an example: they have 3-4 million cctv cameras and mics set up strategically all over the island, along with public posters that say "dont worry, we're watching over you". plus theyve already got national ID cards. and the people are largely unaware of it..its a big brother agenda, and it was born in that region.
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Quote:No it doesn't? I mean huh?
Originally posted by SonofMan:
to put it simply, the EU makes up the original Roman empire,
Quote:Erm no. Every EU country still has sovereignty. They still have their own governments, militaries etc. The EU is not a 'government' and what legislative body their is is comprised and constructed by the sovereign governments of member states.
and likewise the once sovereign countries have been consilidated under a single entity, the EU, and is run by a UN type government.
Quote:Which ones? The British-Commie-Nazi-Jews or the Jewish-Illuminati?
since the secret societies originated there, it stands to reason that they would be further along than we are
Quote:cctv yes, microphones no. The cctv is a might excessive, but most cameras happen to be around London military sites, so I don't see it as proof of the global Big Brother agenda.
if i am to use the UK as an example: they have 3-4 million cctv cameras and mics set up strategically all over the island
Quote:I keep looking and I keep not seeing...
along with public posters that say "dont worry, we're watching over you"
Quote:Let me check my wallet.
plus theyve already got national ID cards.
Nope, no ID card there. Pockets, nope none there.
Maybe it's in my car, I'll check.
Err no. Guess we don't have ID cards then
.Quote:Not surprised, there's microphones that don't exist, invisible posters and I've got this ID card somewhere that I know nothing about. Glad you can tell me these things from your position of obvious greater knowledge of the country in which I live
and the people are largely unaware of it
.Quote:What you need is some accurate information, and no you won't get that from Prison planet. I suspect prison planet is at least one of the places you get your information from, largely because what it say's about UK ID cards is the same things you have said, It's utter crap BTW. We don't have ID cards, at all; I have severe doubts that we will ever have ID cards.
its a big brother agenda, and it was born in that region.
Gems like this show what a poor resource prison planet is:
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The government has put the brakes on such tactics by simply announcing, with no debate or legislation, that passports can now only be renewed for 9 months in advance.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2006/040406idcard.htm
Actually passports can be renewed whenever the hell you like, but you can only bring forward 9 months worth of your unused time. So you can have a maximum passport life of 10 years and 9 months.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
"I had a rose named after me and I was very flattered. But I was not pleased to read the description in the catalog: 'No good in a bed, but fine against a wall'." -- Eleanor Roosevelt.
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alright..i apologize, i was mis-informed on the ID card matter. the last i checked, the EU biometric ID card had passed a few phases and seemed like a sure thing, but again i dont live there, so ill admit im ignorant and should have double checked first.
and i will say this, i was under the impression that this new abso-tv, where you can tune into some cctv feeds, were outfitted with mics..but ill grant you that on avg they dont(yet)-my mistake. but why is that still acceptable, especially that these cameras are being adapted wtih facial recognition systems! are not they all methods to subvert privacy? but i concede..i was mistaken
but since im talking about the beast, let me make my point:
"he was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation. all inhaitants of the earth will worship the beast"
"he also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to recieve a mark on his right hand or on his forehead. so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark"
since we're talking about a global government and currency, let me address one important aspect of this briefly, aside from the secret societies, to explain what mechanisms are being used.
now, correct me if im wrong, but does not the EU have: one central bank, and nearly one shared monetary currency? i dont know how you can claim
genuine sovereignty in-light of everything thats occurred since the treaty of Rome and Brussels, and now the formation of the EU; a European superstate seems inevitably a matter of time at this point. if America united superficially with Mexico and Canada under uniform practices, id be saying the same thing!..and i am, because thats what they trying to do as we speak with the border reform legistlation and American Real ID act.
the engine that seems to be driving this are the global money interests. its been the banking istitutions MO to rob the US of its wealth.
for example- the Federal reserve was snuck in against the American publics will, and within 15
years caused the biggest economic collapse in our history, and every year since we've become more in debt and less sovereign and free. it was this type of elite monopoly that our founding fathers sought to overthrow and break free from. well it took a hundred years, but agent provocateurs, working at the behest of the central banks, staged this hyst against us, and pulled of the scam of all scams to bring this monstrousity into existence. now, in reality, todays currency is worthless paper, with no actual value (in America we've been off the Gold standard for almost 30 years now). well for a government to buy money, AT INTEREST, from a PRIVATE banking institution is quite possibly the closest thing to serfdom as is possible today. the Fed chairman has the ability to manipulate the stock market merely by making a comment! and currently our citizens are in debt to them 6 TRILLION dollars. their existence is un-constitutional, they are not audited by the IRS, and since they are a private entity our for profit, they can purchase stock without the actual physical funds! i mean tell me this is just and fair? well its happening in the EU aswell, in fact it originated their!
whos going to make the case that these Banks combined dont have the wealth, assetts, or connections, to influence government and public policy? especially when agencies like the Council on Foreign Relations, and the Tri-Lateral group, are direct front organizations, established by the same royal families and elite affiliations behind the banking institutions.
heres a quote from an ex CIA official by the name of Russbacher, its verifiable data:
"In our circles it became widely known that the Fed's principle owners, or stockholders, as they prefer to be called, were the ROTHSCHILD banks of London and Berlin; LAZARD BROTHERS Banks of Paris; ISRAEL MOSES SEIF Banks of Italy, WARBURG Bank of Hamburg and Amsterdam; LEHMAN BROTHERS Bank of New York; and GOLDMAN, Sachs Banks of New York; KUHN, Loeb Bank of New York; CHASE MANHATTAN Bank of New
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Originally posted by SonofMan:
[-first off, the synoptics, the 3 gospils, WERE written by Matthew, Mark and Luke within a lifetime of Jesus', despite the popular claim of distant, numerous authorship. the book of John was written by a John, only we dont know if it was the apostle or the elder, yet theres no question of its authenticity. Paul, who wrote Romans..has letters dating to within a few yrs of Jesus ressurection. there are numerous 1st and 2nd century writers who confirmed this, including Papias and Irenaeus.
SonofMan where do you get your information? We do NOT know who wrote these gospels with any authority.
I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"
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Bush Gang worshipping Molech/Lucifer/Satan at Bohemian Grove in Monte Rio, California on Summer Solstice, on June 21, 2006
www.lonelantern.org/bohemian_grove.html
Yeah, no worries. The mayor of the city of Hell USA is selling limited edition awards for celebrating 6/6/2006 in Hell, Michigan.
6/6/06 to be time for party in Hell Once-in-a-lifetime date observed
www.mlive.com/news/aanews/index.ssf?/base/news-7/1149259261258260.xml&
coll=2
Records for Satanic weddings are at an all-time high for 6/6/2006. All barcodes have 666, and the US Social Security number includes 666, etc. Genocidal Satanists run the White House, Congress, and most all other nations, and perform "mock" human sacrifices to a 50-foot tall "stone" idol of Molech, while dancing naked at Bohemian Grove in Monte Rio, California, every Summer Solstice for over 100 years.
These same Satanic millionaires, billionaires and trillionaires will in Canada holding their Super Secret Society "Bilderberger" meeting, ariving in town coincidentally on 6/6/2006, to plot their latest genocides to enslave the planet.
www.bilderberg.org/2006.htm#ottawa
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They had as king over them the angel of the Abyss, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in Greek, Apollyon.
-Revelation 9:11, Christian Bible (KJV)
Jewish Kabalistic Numerology means everything to these Luciferians. That's why they perped the treasonous terrorist human sacrifices on 9/11/2001.
www.september911surprise.com
After reading the following, it sure does sound like Georgie Bush Jr. Note that The Beast 666 is puppeteered by Satan, just like Jr Bush is puppeteered by Cheney and Sir George "Magog" Bush Sr Knight of the British Empire, following orders of their masters in Europe.
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Revelation 13, Christian Bible (KJV)
4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
www.biblegateway.com
Sure sounds like Jr Bush, waging pre-emptive wars on Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran.
Is Georgie Bush Jr the grandson of The Beast 666? That would certainly explain his memberships in Nazi Skull & Bones and Bohemian Club.
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George W. Bush, Barbara Bush, and Aleister Crowley
by Joseph Cannon
Cannonfire Blog
April 2006
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Quote:This is the problem with many sites like prison-planet. They do exactly what they accuse the main-stream media of doing, only worse and without any comeback. They don't give you the full picture, they don't outright lie, but they make it seem like everyone has *already* been forced too have ID cards
Originally posted by SonofMan:
alright..i apologize, i was mis-informed on the ID card matter. the last i checked, the EU biometric ID card had passed a few phases and seemed like a sure thing, but again i dont live there, so ill admit im ignorant and should have double checked first.
.Quote:I still haven't heard of any mic's, but ASBO-TV isn't as big a thing as you might think and is also something I don't see lasting (though quite worrying if it does):
and i will say this, i was under the impression that this new abso-tv, where you can tune into some cctv feeds, were outfitted with mics..but ill grant you that on avg they dont(yet)-my mistake.
http://www.digitalbridge.org.uk/sdtv/crimechannel.php
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4597990.stm
Quote:Well sort of. The Euro is from a single bank (the European Central Bank) and is in circulation in 12 European nations by ~300 million people. But correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the US dollar in circulation through 50 states in use by ~300 million people in the US alone?
Originally posted by SonofMan:
now, correct me if im wrong, but does not the EU have: one central bank, and nearly one shared monetary currency?
Quote:The latter is far more likely than the former. Seriously a European Superstate is going to happen only one way and the Nazi's already failed. Also the US is an area that in both land mass and population resembles the EU and became a single superstate 141 years ago, so what exactly is the big problem with Europe following in the United States foot steps?
a European superstate seems inevitably a matter of time at this point. if America united superficially with Mexico and Canada under uniform practices
Are you yanks just scared of a bit of competition, huh huh
.Quote:In so much as the US left the Gold Standard behind just like everyone else, yes. No one uses the Gold Standard, because it didn't stop market crashes, it didn't stop run away inflation like it was supposed to, it didn't work quite right so the switch was made to fiat currency.
well it took a hundred years, but agent provocateurs, working at the behest of the central banks, staged this hyst against us, and pulled of the scam of all scams to bring this monstrousity into existence. now, in reality, todays currency is worthless paper, with no actual value (in America we've been off the Gold standard for almost 30 years now).
But money is hardly worthless paper, it's also worthless metal and binary digits too
.But seriously if it was 'worthless' you couldn't exchange it for goods and services. 'Worthless' is a term used by economists who think for some reason that the stuff they have in their text books has some bearing on the real world.
Quote:Yeah, ain't capitalism grand?
well for a government to buy money, AT INTEREST, from a PRIVATE banking institution is quite possibly the closest thing to serfdom as is possible today. the Fed chairman has the ability to manipulate the stock market merely by making a comment! and currently our citizens are in debt to them 6 TRILLION dollars.
Quote:I'm not entirely sure what you're talking about here.
well its happening in the EU aswell, in fact it originated their!
Quote:Yeah and if the entire world banded together against America
whos going to make the case that these Banks combined dont have the wealth, assetts, or connections, to influence government and public policy? especially when agencies like the Council on Foreign Relations, and the Tri-Lateral group, are direct front organizations, established by the same royal families and elite affiliations behind the banking institutions.
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Hey Pirate.
Could you ring which one of these people in the photos is George Bush and which one is her Brittanic Majesty the German Queen of England please? I'm having trouble picking them out.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
"I had a rose named after me and I was very flattered. But I was not pleased to read the description in the catalog: 'No good in a bed, but fine against a wall'." -- Eleanor Roosevelt.
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The Queens the one wearing the crown, silly.
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george is around back of the pit.... checking on the brisket
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I think that was the ONE thing TheRightStuff was, er... right about- these photos look like junk from a movie or staged performance of some kind, too well lit and arts-y for normal unprofessional shots...
Probably a college re-enactment of a Pagan ritual, with a photographer capturing the performance.
Hey! That guy in the larger photo just right of center is the bad guy from Ladyhawk!!!
Phillipe Chrisisall
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
I think that was the ONE thing TheRightStuff was, er... right about- these photos look like junk from a movie or staged performance of some kind, too well lit and arts-y for normal unprofessional shots...
Probably a college re-enactment of a Pagan ritual, with a photographer capturing the performance.

Lakeside Talk by German dictator Helmut Kohl at Bohemian Grove, plotting world takeover with 3,000 fellow dicks. Note the 50-foot-tall idol of Molech in the background. Photo copyright Bohemian Club
www.prisonplanet.com/Pages/Sept05/290905Grove.htm
Hollywood and Media Mafia's top multimillionaires and multibillionaires are members of Bohemian Club, so they have massive theatrical stages, one has a Walt Disney style castle. They publish their own yearbook each year, complete with professional photos, including these, which are copyrighted by Bohemian Club.

US Supreme Court chief justice Earl Warren of the JFK Magic Bullet Commission is standing in front of the idol of Molech beside the Alladin Lamp eternal flame and human sacrifice alter, wearing a short tie. Photo copyright Bohemian Club
The fact you don't know all about Bohemian Grove and its members just shows how mind controlled you are. Newsflash: The Media Mafia, the Educashunal Fool System, and your pastor lie to you, since they are members of these Luciferian secret societies, literally under threat of death oath if they reveal their secrets of their Satanic cults.
The good news is that you can grow your brain by reading this PhD dissertation and watching these videos from Bohemian Grove:
Social Cohesion & the Bohemian Grove
The Power Elite at Summer Camp
by Professor William Domhoff, U.C. Santa Cruz
http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/bohemian_grove.html
Wikipedia outscores Encyclopedia Britanica
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Grove
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"I'm not going to end up tied down to a Pentagram with Henry Kissenger standing over me naked with his fat belly hanging out, holding a dagger in his hand, am I?"
—Alex Jones, from Jones' video Dark Secrets, as Jon Ronson was briefing Jones on how to infiltrate the Grove for British Channel 4 TV, reported by 15-page article in New York Times
www.infowars.com/bg1.html
www.geocities.com/bohemian_grove_dirt

Tricky Dick Nixon and Ronald Reagan at Bohemian Grove. Photo copyright Bohemian Club
www.greatdreams.com/political/bohemian.htm
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"But it's not just the ratty part of town. The upper class in San Francisco is that way. The Bohemian Grove, which I attend from time to time . . . It is the most faggy goddamned thing you could ever imagine with that San Francisco crowd. I can't shake hands with anybody from San Francisco."
-President Tricky Dick Nixon, White House audiotape, Nixon Presidential Library, US National Archives
AUDIO DOWNLOAD:
www.prisonplanet.com/032604nixontape.html

Members of faggy Bohemian Club homosexual nudist colony at Bohemian Grove, published in Bohemian Club's yearbook
www.selin.org/Walk_Stars/Bohemian-Grove.htm
VIDEO DOWNLOAD: SECRET RULERS OF THE WORLD
www.rinf.com/articles/jon-ronson.html
VIDEO DOWNLOADS: DARK SECRETS INSIDE BOHEMIAN GROVE AND ORDER OF DEATH:
www.archive.org/details/DSIBG
www.lastingnetworks.com/alex/
VIDEO DOWNLOAD: Boners at Bohemian Grove - Music by Counter Coup and John Lee:
http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2005/09/6737.php
THE FOLLOWING IS FROM INFOWARS.COM RADIO BROADCAST:
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Cremation of Care program of ritual "mock" human sacrifice at Bohemian Grove in Monte Rio, California, on summer solstice. Copyright Bohemian Club
VIDEO DOWNLOAD: Snuff kiddie porn at Bohemian Grove - Alex Jones of Infowars.com interviewsNOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
6/6/06.. it's 7:54 am and the temp is already around 85... looks like it will be a hell of a day here in texas... probably top out around 100.... impending doom...? a sign of the end..? fry an egg on the sidewalk...? no, just another typical day in the lone star... i'm just glad i'm not pouring asphalt....
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just another day....
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Holy crap!
The world JUST ENDED!!!
(Luckily, Buffy and the Scoobies managed to save it by casting a time spell and undoing the destruction somehow...)
Dancing Bohemian Faggot Chrisisall
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Just another day on the plantation.
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MSNBC: US mortgage rate hits 6.66% for Satanic Jewish banksters on 6/6/6
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13060028/
www.mindcontrolforums.com/pro-freedom.co.uk/666.html
www.av1611.org/666.html
Babylonian Jews say World Wide Web is 666
www.av1611.org/666/www_666.html
Just coincidence. Go baaack to sleeep. The Bilderberger Satanic Secret Society will take good care of you today. They love you. To death.
Now for psychology, that don't sound half dumb.
-Jayne, The Message
FIREFLY SERENITY PILOT MUSIC VIDEO V2
Tangerine Dream - Thief Soundtrack: Confrontation
http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2006/03/8912.php
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Originally posted by SonofMan:
[-first off, the synoptics, the 3 gospils, WERE written by Matthew, Mark and Luke within a lifetime of Jesus', despite the popular claim of distant, numerous authorship. the book of John was written by a John, only we dont know if it was the apostle or the elder, yet theres no question of its authenticity. Paul, who wrote Romans..has letters dating to within a few yrs of Jesus ressurection. there are numerous 1st and 2nd century writers who confirmed this, including Papias and Irenaeus.
SonofMan where do you get your information? We do NOT know who wrote these gospels with any authority.
I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"
true, but there is also no evidence to suggest that they werent the authors either. if it were written by anonymous authors, they would have chosen more prominant names, such as the NT pseudpigrapha, rather then servants of the diciples. given the nature of the accounts, even liberal scholars dont dispute that they were atleast written before the turn of the 1st century. and there are scriptures and creeds from Paul that date back to immediately after Jesus death. so considering that their were still living witnesses, who would testify to Jesus' lifestyle, the room for legend to creep in was reletively non-existant. i mean you really ought to consider what the scholars have uncovered...its not as if these issues have never been raised with believers before! someone dedicating their life to something generally covers all their bases so as to be sure that they are not wasting their time and accepting a fallacy.
if i may recommend a book a read just recently, called "The Case for Christ", written by investigative journalist Lee Strobel, he probes with lawyer like scutiny over the evidence for Jesus', and seems to prove, using current known data, without a shadow of a doubt, that the NT is as it claims. i ask that you skeptics spend 10 bucks, and take a few days to learn what Christians are basing their faith on, because these are not new issues that are being raised. no true Christian in his right mind would overlook an seeming inconsistency that would undermine his faith...its the fact that we have sufficient evidence to remain firmly rooted that is so extraordinary
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"And there shall be a great wind from PIRATENEWS, and hot air shall cover all the Earth (exept Bohemia Grove where aparently there will be a lovely little performance of Robin Hood).
www.murderresearch.com
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