Male and Female Imponderables--Continued Yet Again

POSTED BY: Tristan
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Friday, June 30, 2006 3:38 PM

Delilah happens to be my favorite name in existence. Honestly, everything I own I give a woman's name (since Vera) and 80% of them are Delilah's.

Nobody caught the Madonna-Dick Tracy joke? I feel like a geek.

I'm now changing my sig to 'Braedan. With an A.'

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'Braedan. With an A.'

TRISTAN

Friday, June 30, 2006 3:42 PM

Names...I have come across a few that I fell in love with. Delilah is actually one of them.

Trevi--knew a girl in high school with that name.

Trace--pronounced like "trace" with no "y" sound...always liked that for some reason.

Heatherleigh--saw that somewhere a long time ago, and thought it would be a lovely name for a daughter, if I ever had one. The wife has nixed this choice.

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MSG

Friday, June 30, 2006 3:43 PM

NV- well thats lovely for you I'm sure. So is there anything we can do to help? HUGS Hang in there and remeber you are never responsible for anyone elsess choices:)

Tristan- sorry it's been so busy for you...unless that's a good thing:)

FMF- I say go for it... it's not like the worlds dye supply will run out ( though I use my fair share) if you don't like being grey you can always go back:)

13- you'll grow into it and it'll be fine:)

EDIT- Tristan sorry I'm with the wife on that one and I'd bet your future daughter would be as well:)

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

TRISTAN

Friday, June 30, 2006 3:47 PM

MSG, being busy is a blessing and a curse...helping people out, but keeping me from the boards

And what's wrong with Heatherleigh? It rolls off the tongue like the wind blowing softly through windchimes...music to the ear...

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MSG

Friday, June 30, 2006 3:51 PM

Hon- I love you dearly but it sounds like the name a newly rich family moving into an English country house would give their home...however as 2 names
Heather Leigh it's fine ( just an opinion though)
Mind you it's not like I'm the perfect name giver...we've already picked Charlotte Elizabeth for a girl and John David if it's a boy...so it may just be that I'm a traditionalist and your name is untraditional:)

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

LITTLEALBATROSS29

Friday, June 30, 2006 3:53 PM

Morning all,

So much has happened in 1 night !

13, I almost named my first son Braeden. But both my name & hubbys start with br, so we went with Dylan . I still really like it though. I think it's very manly.
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NV - Sorry to hear of your troubles at home does your family know my family ? Your story sounds so familiar.Some family life ,huh ?

YAY ! sex for copilot !!!!! good for you !

FMF - silver hair can be so pretty, as long as it isn't blue silver.You're too young & beautiful for that !
Bryce
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I swallowed a bug.

TRISTAN

Friday, June 30, 2006 4:01 PM

MSG, I see where you are coming from...here's something to add to your horror of that name, though. I am also a fan of Russian names, and actually toyed around with the idea of naming a child Katrishka Heatherleigh *last name here*...so it could have been a lot worse.
My wife prefers the name Tiara for a daughter...I'm alright with that.

Morning, LittleAlbatross!

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BLACKSHAMROCK5

Friday, June 30, 2006 4:09 PM

Speaking of names for little ones ever since I found out that Clover was a traditional name for the first born girls in my family I have been a little stuck on the idea, but having recently found another name, Emer, and not knowing how many children I am going to have (if any)I'm a tad stuck. So which do we all like? Hopefully I will have a very long time to think on this.

Shamrock

Remember that a kick in the ass is a step forward.

MSG

Friday, June 30, 2006 4:10 PM

I had a student named Tiara ( so named because her conception prevented her mother from completing a beauty pagent and her mom said that her little girl was the only Tiara she needed:) It's a great name!!

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

LITTLEALBATROSS29

Friday, June 30, 2006 4:17 PM

Morning Tristan !

Tiara is such a beautiful & unusual name. Good for you for agreeing to it.
Dyaln was the only name we could agree on. I wanted to name my first either Braeden, River or Byrd.Hubby diagreed . I still say I think the ones carrying the baby should have more say in naming it, but to be fair I didn't name my son Byrd.And my second born is named Sean Daniel. Again I wanted a less traditional name , but we couldn't fight about it forever. Girls name would have been Sara Kayleigh.But no pink for me !
Had lots of cats I've named over the years though.Pets are much more fun to name than children.

Bryce
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I swalowed a bug.

TRISTAN

Friday, June 30, 2006 4:21 PM

Kayleigh...should have thought about that one! I am not sure my wife would agree to that, though.
You do have a point about the one carrying the child should have more say in the naming. Makes sense to me!

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COPILOT

Friday, June 30, 2006 4:26 PM

Okay so my name is Dentalia and I get called Dehliah like nobodys bussiness. I relize my name means tooth yes! It sucks but my parents didn't do their research!

NVGhostrider-What the mother f**k? explain!!!!!!!!!!!

MSG-You can kick ex's ass now he made me cry............a lot and my friend Thomas had to hold me and tell me it'll be okay because truck slaping someone is preety much a gauranteed concussion!

Booze........Bording........Budddies........nothing else is worth the time.....

13-I wuv you completely!!!!!!!!!!!! Why can't you be older??????????????????????

An I carried such a torch

MSG

Friday, June 30, 2006 4:28 PM

I like traditional names, but I have to say it's been hard for me to find names I can use. As a teacher there are so many names I can no longer use because of the kid I have taught with that name...The list gets longer all the time:)

Hey Ponderable question now... Do you think it's true that women are better at communicating??

EDIT-Copilot hon I will get out the industrial can of whoop ass right now...Then we'll drag his beaten body through the mud and walk him down the main street in diapers and a bib:)
I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

TRISTAN

Friday, June 30, 2006 4:28 PM

Copilot, I have said it before to you, I will say it again in public...Dentalia is a beautiful name, and you wear it well. A unique name for a unique individual!

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NVGHOSTRIDER

Friday, June 30, 2006 4:29 PM

Male - Either Melvin (grandpa) or Emerson for a boy.

Female- Lilian (Great grandma) or Amora (means little armed one. Seen it in a baby book sometime back)

Thanks for all the support folks. I gotta be out soon to take care of some things before the weekend. I'd like to tell everyone that I deeply appreciate all the great people in this world who do for others and ask for nothing in return. I especially appreciate those of you who point things out so that one can think about them later. I was feeling dreadfully murderous last night for about an hour. For some reason it died when I started to rehash alot of what everyone's been telling me. If I'm not there for the kids, then who is? I do have help from my mom and sister (bless them, even though I just want to kick them in the ass from time to time). I guess just getting over the bumps of the next couple of weeks is all we can do.

Thanks for all the offers for help. This is the one place where I can come and ask for advice and not worry about much at all. For that I'm terribly appreciative and hope I can offer the same hand to all of you.

MAL: "What happen about me?"

COPTERDOC

Friday, June 30, 2006 4:30 PM

SEX= Great usually, sometimes its like the old eastwood movie. The good the bad and the ugly.

Weight= Its not an attraction thing, when you get older its a health thing. Lose it. its easier when your young than when your old.

Names= I gotta go with my girls, Rhianna 21 and Brianna 7

Communicating: Women are better and worse at the same time. For the most part they can get their point across very well. But, they also like to do a complete 180 every once in a while and expect us to read their mind. aaaaahhhhhhhh!!!!!!

MSG

Friday, June 30, 2006 4:36 PM

NV- hang in there hon and keep us posted..BIG HUG ..we love you!
hmmm kayleigh now that would be a cute name for a little girl!

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Friday, June 30, 2006 4:36 PM

I got it 13. I giggled.

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Friday, June 30, 2006 4:44 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by msg:
Hon- I love you dearly but it sounds like the name a newly rich family moving into an English country house would give their home...however as 2 names
Heather Leigh it's fine ( just an opinion though)
Mind you it's not like I'm the perfect name giver...we've already picked Charlotte Elizabeth for a girl and John David if it's a boy...so it may just be that I'm a traditionalist and your name is untraditional:)

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

Please god - NOT John David. Please Please Please. Ooh shudders from the vision of the hell child!

Tristan - Heatherleigh sounds like it wants to be Heavenly, umm. Not a good choice - now Heather Leigh is ok.

My ex's last name is Lake - was going to name my child (twere it a girl) Crystal, but I didn't think people would get the joke or Veronica.

NV - if you get the children, you can still have your "personal" time, and your soul will be even richer!

PHOENIXROSE

Friday, June 30, 2006 4:45 PM

Laid? Yay for getting laid! Good for you! I hope it was good.
I wanna get laid...

I am in total agreement with Tristan on the sex thing. I have said it before and I'll say it again; a realtionship without sex is a friendship. Not that there is anything wrong with friendship, but if you stop having sex you should stop referring you yourself as a couple.
This is also, by the way, the rule I give anyone who is "bi-curious". If they say "Well, I might be bi because I think so-and-so is really attractive/hot..." I just say "Ok, would you boink them?" I always get wide eyes from this question, but it actually does the trick.
Mmmmm, names. I invented a name that I would love to give a little girl, except I think it would be hell in school and possible after. It's Creya. It's a hybrid name of the Norse Goddess Freja and the Spanish word creer, which means "to believe" and conjugates as "crea" which sounds like cray-a. Anyway, I think I'd go with "Rosamund" as a middle name. I think it would flow very nicley.
Shamrock, between those two I would pick Clover.
I think Tiara is a bit of a shallow name, but that's just me. Any piece of jewelry or food sounds kinda shallow to me.
I've always been of the opinion that women should name thier daughters and men should name their sons. It just seems fair to me. Obviously both parents have to like the name since they'll be using it for the rest of their natural lives, but I wouldn't know what to name a boy and it would be nice if I could just say "I like that" or "I hate that" without having to come up with the perfect name for my male offspring. Of course I've never been pregnant so it's hard to say how I'd feel once that hassle set in.

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MSG

Friday, June 30, 2006 4:47 PM

ok I am really irritated. Just got parents magazine and on the cover it says" Great discipline strategies: works on husbands too"
Hey!! so many things wrong with that!
1- assumes dads don't read the magazine or have interest in learning parenting techniques
2-assumes dad is infantile and unable to be a grown up
3- assumes it's mom's right/responsibility to discipline her husband

I really hate that!!! It's right up there with the whole t.v. trend of bratty selfish kids that get laughs for their wild/bratty behavior and have t.v. parents who act like this is normal kid behavior....ARGH!!!! sorry odd venting moment:)

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Friday, June 30, 2006 4:53 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by msg:
ok I am really irritated. Just got parents magazine and on the cover it says" Great discipline strategies: works on husbands too"
Hey!! so many things wrong with that!
1- assumes dads don't read the magazine or have interest in learning parenting techniques
2-assumes dad is infantile and unable to be a grown up
3- assumes it's mom's right/responsibility to discipline her husband

I really hate that!!! It's right up there with the whole t.v. trend of bratty selfish kids that get laughs for their wild/bratty behavior and have t.v. parents who act like this is normal kid behavior....ARGH!!!! sorry odd venting moment:)

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

LOL, in my case all 3 were true!

PIZ

Friday, June 30, 2006 4:56 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by copilot:
I got laid!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wondering what that would be like, too...

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"That's what a government's for: get in a man's way." - Mal

RUGBUG

Friday, June 30, 2006 4:59 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by msg:
No that's true, but actually ( not kidding here) I desperately wanted to be named Tracy...the cutest girl in our whole elementary school was named Tracy and I envied her...

You can't seriously meant that, can you? That's my name...although spelled Traci. (13, I can sympathize with the spelling issue. I was just looking at an CD of my friend's band and they thank me in the cover...spelling my name wrong, of course. Ugh. ) I have never really like Traci. It's okay, but can you picture me at 75 being called that? It's just not a grown-up name. And I can't tell you how often people call me Stacy.

I think Lila is very pretty. Braedan is pretty cool too (did I just spell that wrong?

) That is a the last name of a very good friend from college so it just brings smiles to me face. He's the bomb.

FMF, I started going gray around 20. I have no idea how much gray I've got now, but I would guess at least 50%. I've been dark red: which I really liked but it faded FAST, blond: which is what I like most and what I was as a kid, but it got too blond, and am now dark brown due to a poor color job. They were just suppose to darken my too blond up a little, to a Jennifer Aniston gold color, and instead I came out Sandra Bullock Brown.

Coloring is a pain, but my natural color is just blah. Blond has been the easiest to maintain because you only have to do the roots every 6 weeks. The other colors fade so much I have to do all over color every 6 weeks.

Okay back to work for a bit....

CALIFORNIAKAYLEE

Friday, June 30, 2006 5:01 PM

FMF, how can you not like the name Tracy? Any name that appears in Firefly is fine by me!

As far as names go, I've always liked the idea of giving a child a traditional first name and an unusual middle name. That way the substitute teacher won't mispronounce their name, but they can always go by their middle name if they end up being the 5th Jessica in their class or whatever.

The two names I've been toying with are Alexander Tristram (which the hubby nixed, mostly because he knows I'd call him Xander, lol) and Jacqueline Arden. Course, with children looking less and less likely for us, I'll just have to help my siblings pick out names for their kids, hehe. I expect to have many nieces and nephews.

~CK

You can't take the sky from me...

PIZ

Friday, June 30, 2006 5:02 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by msg:
Do you think it's true that women are better at communicating??

Sure, if you count "well if you don't know why I'm angry I'm sure not going to tell you" as good communication.

Can you tell I was expected to be a reader back when I was married?

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"That's what a government's for: get in a man's way." - Mal

PENGUIN

Friday, June 30, 2006 5:02 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
Laid? Yay for getting laid! Good for you! I hope it was good.

The worst sex I ever had was pretty darn good!

13

Friday, June 30, 2006 5:02 PM

Copilot: Not only is it the age thing, but he's CANADIAN!

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'It's Braedan. With an A.'

TRISTAN

Friday, June 30, 2006 5:03 PM

PR, thank you for the back-up. I'm a bit touchy on the subject of sex and couples lately, so forgive me if I harped a bit. I understand the cooling off, but that should never completely kill the desire. My ex-wife and I, by your definition, were "friends" for the last 6-8 months of our marriage. Well, we weren't actually friends, either...but that's not the point here. Look at the word "couple". One of the meanings is to link together, and "copulate" is also derived from the word. I am a firm believer in trying new things, spicing up the sex, whatever it takes, but I expect the same from my partner. Without passion there is little desire.
Oh, and as far as the bi-question "would you boink them"...I tried that out, PR, and the response I got was "Oh, yeah...can I?"

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MSG

Friday, June 30, 2006 5:09 PM

LOL- you may have just come upon a great pick up line Tristan:)

CK- Seriously Tracey Hughes was the cutest girl..Big blue eyes curly brown pigtails and every boy liked her. All the girls wanted to be named Tracey:)

Piz- see that's just sick and wrong!* see my above posting

13- why is being canadian bad?? I know lots of great canadians and lets just face it, nearly every great comedien has been canadian!

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

PIZ

Friday, June 30, 2006 5:10 PM

Regarding names: my family has an interesting tradition for sons - the son's middle name is always the father's first name. The shiny result of that is that you can string 'em all together and see a complete family history.

For example, though not giving away any actual names in my family, if I'm Marcus Woods and my son is Edward, he'd be Edward Marcus Woods. My dad's Frederick, so I'm Marcus Frederick Woods, and you could in theory call my son Edward Marcus Frederick Woods. If my grandfather was Richard my son could be Edward Marcus Frederick Richard Woods, and so on. (Not that we put 'em all on the birth certifs, mind you. )

It goes back as far as I can recall. There's no similar tradition for girls' names (as a family we seldom have girls, for whatever reason). There could be, though.

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"That's what a government's for: get in a man's way." - Mal

NVGHOSTRIDER

Friday, June 30, 2006 5:11 PM

That is the reason for "Independant" thinking. Both the Liberal and Conservative media sources are trying to tell everyone what to think, (though I do know numerous cases where those statements are correct for both the husband and the wife). I wish more SO's would step up and be adults. I live with mt mother because I have to, not because I can't grow up. The woman I'm looking for can't be similar to my mother. I'd hate to be with someone who I secretly resent and pity.
People like the ones mentioned in the article (and some writting them) are th reason why I crafted such a large "walking" stick, (or "Bitch be good" stick as my best friend Mindy calls it).

Funny how so many people shift blame to many other things for their childrens behavior. See it all the time at work, (and unfortunately at home too).

All the 'coats in the childcare/human services field, all the parents and care givers and guardians: BIG HUGS AND KISSES!!!!!

(Y'all can borrow my stick anytime you need it.)

MAL: "What happen about me?"

PIZ

Friday, June 30, 2006 5:15 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by msg:
ok I am really irritated. Just got parents magazine and on the cover it says" Great discipline strategies: works on husbands too"
Hey!! so many things wrong with that!
1- assumes dads don't read the magazine or have interest in learning parenting techniques
2-assumes dad is infantile and unable to be a grown up
3- assumes it's mom's right/responsibility to discipline her husband

I really hate that!!! It's right up there with the whole t.v. trend of bratty selfish kids that get laughs for their wild/bratty behavior and have t.v. parents who act like this is normal kid behavior....ARGH!!!! sorry odd venting moment:)

Now, we all know that all men are nothing more than stupid, evil, lecherous humps. Isn't that the message we get constantly bombarded with at every turn?

Honestly, if I hear of another sitcom where the wife is presented as lovely, wise, and all-knowing and the husband is Jim Belushi, I swear I'm going postal.

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"That's what a government's for: get in a man's way." - Mal

CALIFORNIAKAYLEE

Friday, June 30, 2006 5:17 PM

Heh, my family actually has a very similar tradition. The oldest of my brothers has our father's first name as his middle name. The middle brother has our grandfather's first name as his middle name, and the youngest has our great-grandfather's name. I don't know if my brothers will continue the tradition, but it would be neat if they did.

Also, no similar tradition for us girls. The most interesting thing about my name is that my initials were almost A.S.S., but my parents thankfully realized it at the last moment and switched the order, lol.

~CK

You can't take the sky from me...

MSG

Friday, June 30, 2006 5:18 PM

see I think there ought to be parenting licenses and regular family check ups, but like NV I work with broken kids from disasterous homes:(

NV- I am impressed that you live with your mom and help her out. Sadly I love my mom tons, but cannot share space with her for longer than a few days. We have the same personality, but very different wants/viewpoints. I even made my sister come the last time we went to France. As I put it Sis you have to come 'cause it's a 10 day trip and by the end of it if we're all by ourselves one of us is gonna end up as luggage.However, could spend all day every day with my dad ( well really step dad) and be just fine...I'm a big ol daddies girl

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

13

Friday, June 30, 2006 5:26 PM

I have the same birthday as Jim Belushi. And Helen Hunt, and Courteney Cox, and Bernard Hopkins, and Edward the Black Prince.

The Canadian thing is an in-joke in my tiny little subculture community, given birth by Seth McFarlane and the Simpsons.

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'It's Braedan. With an A.'

PHOENIXROSE

Friday, June 30, 2006 5:27 PM

Oh, yes, spicing is good. I have many little things that I can almost wear that are very spicy. Plus teasers and straps an other such toys. I started to wonder if this was a problem; did it start out so spicy so quick that there was little place to go? But I decided that wasn't the case. Ex of Doom was just a moron.
I missed a lot, here! I was only gone a few minutes!

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MSG

Friday, June 30, 2006 5:31 PM

PR- hmmm that's an interesting question. Should you start off with spicy or wait until you've been in the relationship and things have gone a bit blah and then pull out your bag o' spicy tricks?

I vote start spicy stay spicy, but that may just be me:)

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

PIZ

Friday, June 30, 2006 5:36 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by msg:
Piz- see that's just sick and wrong!* see my above posting

Sorry, don't know which one you mean, or which of mine you're referring to (there's so much sick and wrong with me

).

Do these boards have a "threaded" mode?

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"That's what a government's for: get in a man's way." - Mal

PHOENIXROSE

Friday, June 30, 2006 5:36 PM

Well sure! What's wrong with just being spicy? Can exciting become routine?
Well, I didn't pull out my bag of tricks every time.
Bah! Stupid boy.

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NVGHOSTRIDER

Friday, June 30, 2006 5:45 PM

Name- Joey William Franklin Allen. Another one of those family history names. Good for the Meet New Chicks Name Game, (Thanks TRISTAN).

I've been back home for the last two years. Haven't had to since I was 17. Guess it was all for a reason, huh?

As for the spicy and interesting. When the ex and I would go through a bland stage, we'd always find a nice place in the nature, (amongst wildflowers and the like). Always seemed to work out the kinks.

Mr. 13- Sorry not all get the Canadian thing. No offense to any Canadian Browncoats out there. It could be worse, you could actually be French.
I am such an a-hole. Gotta be careful, I might grow to like it. Oh hell, I do. Does it show?

MAL: "What happen about me?"

DEEPGIRL187

Friday, June 30, 2006 5:57 PM

Okay people, gonna say this once.

Regarding names: I will hear no undue fussin' from anyone regarding their names, 'cause I have the worst one of all.

My grandmother named me Masani, an East African name. Guess what it means? "One with a gap between her teeth." I've spent my twenty or so years constantly correcting people on spelling and pronounciation. So take pride in your names, people. Things could be way worse.

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"What you plan and what takes place ain't ever exactly been similar."

PIZ

Friday, June 30, 2006 5:58 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by msg:
I vote start spicy stay spicy, but that may just be me:)

Not just you.

Also, I think that anyone having sex, male or female, ought to be a 100%, complete and total slut - while they're having sex. Outside of sex is a different matter, but during? If you're not going to put your all into it, why bother?

Now, that doesn't mean sex should only be at breakneck speed, with scratching, screaming, and scrumming (though that is, of course, fun). It means that when you have sex, whatever kind you're having at the time, then have sex. Shyness or reluctance in the bedroom is not good. Once you've chosen to proceed, then get to.

Or, to quote a friend (paraphrasing Dietrich Bonhoeffer), "Turn out the lights and sin boldly!"

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"That's what a government's for: get in a man's way." - Mal

RUGBUG

Friday, June 30, 2006 6:06 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by deepgirl187:

My grandmother named me Masani, an East African name. Guess what it means? "One with a gap between her teeth." I've spent my twenty or so years constantly correcting people on spelling and pronounciation. So take pride in your names, people. Things could be way worse.

That's such a cool name! (Just don't tell people what it means). Yes, hard to spell but lovely nonetheless.

Family names: My brother's middle name is my dad's first name. My nephew's middle is also my dad's first name. I'm glad my brother did that. My dad died when I was 2, so it's nice to have a little reminder of him.

NVGHOSTRIDER

Friday, June 30, 2006 6:12 PM

DG187- My great grandma Lilian named me Kedu which is Paiute for groundhog. A small fat creature that suns itself and eats all day. It is also very hard to hunt in remote places with no people (in their natural state). Hard to hunt is another meaning for the name. Many tribal people had gaps in their teeth because they used their mouths as a third hand while making baskets and ropes and such, (I have flat teeth from some of the work I do). It is a name that carries great history and honor. Either that or your grandma didn't like you, (Jokes:)

PIZ- I have no idea who you are and don't have a clue why you would post such filth on this board!
Of course you should be complete whore while having sex! I like it when a shy girl is able to let go and rock me, (not that its happened in a while. But when it did...).
Poop or get off the pot. If you're gonna do it, do it big. Shoot or get off the range.
Maybe the last one might be a bit off?

MAL: "What happen about me?"

PHOENIXROSE

Friday, June 30, 2006 6:22 PM

Who said anything about the lights being off?
Closest I get to that is lots of candles. I like to see who I'm making love to. Unless there are blindfolds involved, but that's a little different.

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PIZ

Friday, June 30, 2006 6:33 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by nvghostrider:
PIZ- I have no idea who you are and don't have a clue why you would post such filth on this board!

It's a talent...

Quote:
(not that its happened in a while.

I know the feeling. My virginity has completely grown back.

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"That's what a government's for: get in a man's way." - Mal

MSG

Friday, June 30, 2006 6:40 PM

Hey if we want to talk name meanings...Lila means dark haired and dark hearted..Delilah means she who destroys men...Scary huh?

So virginity grew back huh?? how long does a thing like that take. And to think all those husbands invented and used chastity belts on their wives when they could have just waited a while:)

NV you moved out at 17? wow you muct have been brave.

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

PIZ

Friday, June 30, 2006 6:43 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by msg:
So virginity grew back huh?? how long does a thing like that take. And to think all those husbands invented and used chastity belts on their wives when they could have just waited a while:)

Hey! I got man parts!

And, it takes about two years.

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"That's what a government's for: get in a man's way." - Mal

PHOENIXROSE

Friday, June 30, 2006 6:44 PM

Men's virginity never grows back, but women can, um, contract a bit if they have nothing for a year. The hymen never grows back, of course, but the resistance can. So I've heard. And I seem to be well on my way to finding out. Boo.

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NVGHOSTRIDER

Friday, June 30, 2006 6:46 PM

Virginity, grown back. Almost showered my dang keyboard with diet Pepsi.

Gotta use that the next time someone asks an appropriate question.

"So you wanna go to my place and have sex?"

"Okay, but you gotta be gentle.
My virginity grew back."

MAL: "What happen about me?"

MSG

Friday, June 30, 2006 6:51 PM

yeah you can do that with kegels too:)
Ok just discovered my husband's complaint is true. His keyboard really does smell like coconut sorbet lotion now. It's my new favorite scented lotion ( I have lots of different kinds for different seasons/moods) and I've been using it alot and using his keyboard and I just realized the scent is now coming from his keyboard...I think I'd better clean it.
Mind I am now typing more than usual 'cause I love this new nail glaze color...goldspun opal ( kind of pale gold with undertones of flash)
EDIT_ I just realized all this pointless info is TMI for you guys so feel free to ignore it! Sometimes my girly streak goes a bit bonkie

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

RIVER6213

Friday, June 30, 2006 6:52 PM

I can't even remember when I last had sex.

River

RIVER6213

Friday, June 30, 2006 6:52 PM

I can't even remember when I last had sex.

River

MSG

Friday, June 30, 2006 6:57 PM

NV- that has all the makings of a fantastic personals ad..giggle
Female
I like long walks in the rain, vodka martinis, and Firefly. But only gentlemen should apply as my virginity has grown back:)
Male
I like guns and ammo, rock and roll, but be gentle ladies my virginity has recently grown back:)

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

PHOENIXROSE

Friday, June 30, 2006 7:00 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by msg:
yeah you can do that with kegels too:)
Ok just discovered my husband's complaint is true. His keyboard really does smell like coconut sorbet lotion now. It's my new favorite scented lotion ( I have lots of different kinds for different seasons/moods) and I've been using it alot and using his keyboard and I just realized the scent is now coming from his keyboard...I think I'd better clean it.
Mind I am now typing more than usual 'cause I love this new nail glaze color...goldspun opal ( kind of pale gold with undertones of flash)
EDIT_ I just realized all this pointless info is TMI for you guys so feel free to ignore it! Sometimes my girly streak goes a bit bonkie

Sounds pretty, that color.

Funny, and this might have a TMI warning on it, but I've basically done kegals since before I even knew what they were. I just wanted to see if I could, you know, stop the flow.
Anyway I got this "kegel-pro" kegal excerciser; don't know if I mentioned the sex-toy company my answering service used to answer for, but they had this thing, and I thought "Hey, that sounds like a good idea and I get a discount" so I got one. It's got a spring and you're supposed to insert it and squeeze it shut. So I did... and it was already shut, there was nowhere left for me to squeze to.
I'm not sure if this is further proof that I am just tiny, or if I have the strongest kegal muscles in the world!

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MSG

Friday, June 30, 2006 7:04 PM

WOW..maybe you should mention that on dates...I bet you'd get a rise out of the guy

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

NVGHOSTRIDER

Friday, June 30, 2006 7:09 PM

HOLY SPHINCTER HELL, ITS RIVER6213.
Where ya been. Or have you been here the whole time? You do like to creep about.

MSG- May add that under the Who I'd Like to Meet section of MY Myspace profile.

PR: Definitely piqued my interest!

MAL: "What happen about me?"

PHOENIXROSE

Friday, June 30, 2006 7:09 PM

That would be an interesting way to break the ice! "Yes, I have extremely strong kegal muscles, by the way..."
Now I just need a date.

Y'all are too entertaining! I need to go to bed and sleep now! Should have done so hours ago, in fact! So I love you and good night.

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COPILOT

Friday, June 30, 2006 7:24 PM

I've "done" my friend twice since the "devoroce". I've liked him since we kinda dated junior year of high school. Suckage because I still really want to "be" with him!
Deepgirl- I totally understand about the correction phase goodness do I know!!!!
sorry about the qoates people I'm just in one of those moods
Still yay for sex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

An I carried such a torch

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Friday, June 30, 2006 7:27 PM

This would work only if they knew what a kegal muscle was

MSG - he should be so lucky. Who doesn't want a sented keyboard? It could be worse, it could be full of oreos and Dr. Pepper.

MSG

Friday, June 30, 2006 7:53 PM

LOL- FMF you are so funny! My husband's just not big on girly stuff being on his stuff and I can understand 'cause I'd be less than thrilled if my cell smelled like his bodywash...no wait I love how his body wash smells...yeah what is his problem?

NV- go right ahead:) I just made up stuff from what I like for both so it's all yours:)

Copilot- hey now you've had something twixed your nethers that weren't battery operated:)

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

NVGHOSTRIDER

Friday, June 30, 2006 8:07 PM

Out for the weekend. Hope all goes well for everyone.

MSG- Just added it. Looks a little funny, but I'll keep it.

Well BROWNCOATS, keep your weapons clean and at the ready!

(Paul Harvey voice) Good day.

MAL: "What happen about me?"

TRISTAN

Friday, June 30, 2006 8:27 PM

As far as starting out spicy...I have no problem with that at all. I have, however, run into the following dilema:
At the beginning of a physical relationship, all the stops are pulled out, nothing is taboo, sex is a circus without end. After awhile, things calm down, a routine is established, and things that were once normal happenings disappear from the bedroom completely. When the issue is brought up, the discovery occurs; "well, I never really liked that"... Ok. This would have been good to know WHILE IT WAS HAPPENING! I know I am not much of a catch, but I do think I am pretty well-versed when it comes to sex. I like spicy, but I also like normal...not all the time, but spicy can sometimes be too much. I try, when I am starting a relationship, to get across that I am open-minded and willing to try all sorts of things. When my partner indicates the same, all is well...fun and excitement ensue. It seems to me that sex is sometimes used to "get" someone, then once you have them, you quit trying. I need some input here: Anyone else here have this kind of thing happen? You start dating what you think is a perfect sexual partner, only to slowly discover you are actually attached to Mother Superior incarnate? What used to be the sex-drive from hell has puttered into, "alright, we can have sex...let's say tomorrow night if I'm not feeling too bad"...Sex occurs at night, with the lights out, very little foreplay (if any), one or two positions, clean-up, then sleep...bah!
As I got older, I slowed down stamina-wise, etc, but have not lost my drive or desire. I am happy now, for the most part, but remembering those kinds of relationships drives me batty!

Damn, another long post...see what you do to me, PR? Typing dysentery abounds!

NVGhostrider...has the name/dating thing worked yet?

Piz, amen. I think that may be what I was trying to get at with the above rambling.

Virginity growing back...y'all just kill me sometimes!

PR, kegals...yes, that would be good to put on a resume...pardon me, I'll be in my bunk

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13

Friday, June 30, 2006 9:24 PM

Ah, virginity...nothing like it.

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'It's Braedan. With an A.'

TRISTAN

Friday, June 30, 2006 9:37 PM

13, keep it as long as you can. Well, find the right person...then it'll be ok. Yeah, that sounds about right.

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MSG

Friday, June 30, 2006 9:59 PM

In the nature of warning/info did you know that the pill has been determined to be a serious libido killer in women. Over 40% of women taking the pill have reported seriously decreased to completely absent sex drive... They are just now figuring this out:) So those out there using it may want to check and see if it's affecting them. Apparently it's a gradual decrease and has been hard to discover because dr.'s assumed that the decreasing libido reports were due to age, stress, etc. Not until they finished this big study with blood test etc. did they realize that what all cases had in common was the pill and it's effectand blood tests confirmed it

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

RUGBUG

Friday, June 30, 2006 10:07 PM

Tristan,

I got nothing for ya. It's the weekend, it's end of the fiscal year at work, it's bonus time, it's par-tay time. The only thing I am able to imponder for the moment is how much can I drink and be sober enough to drive in 4 hours. Yeehaw!!!!!

Happy holiday weekend to all my imponderable buddies.

MSG

Friday, June 30, 2006 10:13 PM

OOOH have fun for me Rugbug!!! do a little dance, make a little love, get down tonight! I personally plan to have either a martini or a nice mojito tomorrow:)
owie and damn the bruise on my thumb is getting bigger ( smacked a metal bar into it while setting a weight pin)
Anyway, Tristan sweety HUGS I wish I could help:)

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

13

Friday, June 30, 2006 11:07 PM

WARNING: Family Guy Reference

Brian: He made me a mojito.

What? I don't think it's a gay drink.

(peers at glass) Mo-HEE-toe.

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'It's Braedan. With an A.'

FIREFROMHEAVEN

Friday, June 30, 2006 11:24 PM

Tristan, I hope you won't consider it improper for me to make my first post to this interesting conversation be a response to your request for insight. Because I do feel your pain.

Before I get into any of why (and I'll try not to belabor it), let me say that I am and have always been a fan of books. For intimate relationship books, I am currently a fan of Ian Kerner. I consider his books “She Comes First” and “He Comes Next” to be companion books and bought them for my husband for Valentine's Day. Of course, I read them, too. These books are readily available at Borders, or online at Amazon. I'm sure they're available in other bookstores, too.

You sound like you are at a tricky pivot point in your relationship. I have so been there!

I have been with my DH (Dear Husband) for sixteen years. Let me start out by saying that this man was and is the love of my life. I was intensely crazy about him! And, boy, has he driven me crazy at times!

When we were dating, our affair was so hot that my most liberal girlfriends did not want to hear about it! So, after a few years we get married. A couple more years, we have a baby. Suddenly, it seems that I am married to your classic Victorian wife – you know the ones, once they've had a baby, they've “done their duty,” and they're basically done. My reaction can be summed up as WTF. It got to the point that I grieved this relationship, even though we were still married and that wasn't going to change.

So, I hear you. In my case, for a million reasons, it took several years to get this worked out. Friends? It's a good thing that we started out as best friends, because there were phases where we were ships-passing-in-the-night roommates. It sometimes seemed that we lived in the same house, and that was all.

It doesn't have to be that way and it doesn't have to take years to work out. One of the (many) confounding factors for us is that my husband, the IT manager with an engineering degree, is like most of those guys: not completely plugged in to the emotional side of life. There is an actual “engineer personality” that can be discerned on personality tests.

In some ways, it seems that most IT guys and/or engineers are at least mildly autistic or have some characteristics of Asperger's syndrome, even if they aren't diagnosed as such and don't have the whole spectrum of issues. In one conversation, I said to him (in frustration), “If emotions were colors, I have the enhanced box of 128 Crayola, and you have the elementary school box of 8!” He looked at me coolly and replied, “No, I don't. I have a pencil!”

Did I mention that he's funny? Wonderfully funny? That has undoubtedly kept him off the couch many a night. He's also five years younger than I am. We married when he was 29 – it definitely didn't feel like cradle robbing. I usually have more energy than he does! I have always had more of a sex drive, but that wasn't apparent early on.

So, back to you. As I recall, your wife is younger. Younger than 30. Despite growing enlightenment, I think a lot of women are still raised to be rather ambivalent about sex. Often, they don't even realize it. But that internalized pressure to be a “good girl” is usually buried in there somewhere. All too often, being a good girl also means not being too sexual. Ironically, this can also translate into being less sexual because of being married. I know: huh?

Also, a woman's internal sexual signals can be very subtle. It can be really hard to know what it feels like to even be approaching an orgasm unless you masturbate and figure that out. It can be really easy to lose that thread of subtle sensation. There is nothing inevitable about it. This is often a problem for young women. And then there are all those awful messages you can get about masturbation, that it's sinful or what not. It's a wonder any of us ever get this figured out right! But, I conjure, if you don't masturbate and figure it out for yourself, you wind up way too dependent on someone else. It's almost like needing

SERYN

Saturday, July 1, 2006 12:30 AM

Hallo River!

And NVG - huge hugs! I know they ain't much practical use, but there you go, hope you know they're always available. (by the way, I moved out at 17 too, familie! can't live with 'em, can't sell 'em for a profit.

FMF - mum to the rescue! Tell her she's wonderful. I'm glad it was sorted, big hugs as well.

Kegels - Maybe if you are usuing the kegel thing as a chat up line, bear in mind that in the uk they are called 'pelvic toners' - that might give the guy more of a clue. Yeah, i had to do those exercises for some reason when I was a kid, and just carried on doing them, you'll still find me at bus stops sometimes aparently concentrating very hard on nothing. Still his has its benefits, my ex used to love the, ahem, 'massages' *OVERSHARE ALERT*

Names - (ok, now i'm blushing ) Braedon I love - such a strong sexy sounding name, Lila also. And Bryce is extremely pretty, and Dentalia, I have to admit i did a doulble take on first seeing it, but the sound is very pretty, and like someone said, you wear it so well! (and BTW - Yey! for sex, you go girl, &c, &c now if only i could get some. :pout:) The only name I don't like so much is Tiara, I can't help thinking that is something Paris Hilton would call her chiuaua. However, I think Tia would be a lovely pet name (not in a chiuaua way!) for a little girl, so...

I always had my favorite names picked out, so i'm going to need to get lots of cats - for girls, it was Ariadne Mia, and Amritha, Merle and Isolde/Isobel, for boys, it was Nathanial Griffin and Richard. I also love Darcy, but its to much of a girls name now. Braedon is added to the list as well, I was always thinkning about Brendan, but didn't like the 'n' sound so much, didn't occur to me to take it out. And pronounced softly 'Bre dan' its perfect. I'm so fussy about how they'd be pronounced 'Na than yal' 'Gry fen' 'y so belle' 'y zold' 'mer lay' and 'ari ad nay'

I don't mind my name so much, (Helen) its a little boring though, when I found out that I should have been Elynor, and my dad said no and called me Helen, I wouldn't speak to him for months. The one thing that annoys me though is idiot people who can't be botherd saying the whole thing and call me 'hel' I hate it, for obvious reasons, but try as i might, i can never convince people to use the equally short and easy to say approved pet names - Hen or Nell. Either of which I love, but will people co-operate? no!
idiots.

What else was there?

I'm finding more and more that communication with words is incredibly difficult - for both sexes.
But I do think women are more sensitive to, so probably better at, non vocal communication - body language and facial expressions, men instantly pick up the more overt signals, but women get the subtle nuances. Like most people can pick up that someone is lying, but lots of women iknow gat tell what you are lying about and why. Which is bloody scary.

"Talking about love is like dancing about chocolate" or words to that effect, have to find out where that quote come's from.

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Hodgins: Your robot reminds me of you. You tell it to turn it stops. You tell it to stop it turns. You ask it to take out the garbage it watches reruns of Firefly.
FozzieWash, You know what I always say: sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug!
KermieMal, I never Know what the heck you're talking about.
FozzieWash, Hey, look! They're sending us free lumber!
http://www.myspace.com/seryndippyt

CALIFORNIAKAYLEE

Saturday, July 1, 2006 12:56 AM

Is it not normal to dance about chocolate?! I do the Happy Chocolate Dance when the buzzer on the oven rings, singling that my brownies or chocolate chip cookies are done! Or when the hubby says we can get dessert at a restaurant. Or... pretty much anytime chocolate is involved.

~CK

You can't take the sky from me...

SERYN

Saturday, July 1, 2006 1:01 AM

I dance about chocolate - but ialso dance about other thing - like i'm going to atlanta! *dance* its my weekend off! *dance* etc.

I don't think the word was actually chocolate, but the rhythm was right, so...

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Hodgins: Your robot reminds me of you. You tell it to turn it stops. You tell it to stop it turns. You ask it to take out the garbage it watches reruns of Firefly.
FozzieWash, You know what I always say: sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug!
KermieMal, I never Know what the heck you're talking about.
FozzieWash, Hey, look! They're sending us free lumber!
http://www.myspace.com/seryndippyt

CALIFORNIAKAYLEE

Saturday, July 1, 2006 1:11 AM

Which of course brings us to the age-old question: Sex or chocolate?

~CK

You can't take the sky from me...

SERYN

Saturday, July 1, 2006 1:23 AM

hey, this is the 21st century...

Sex and chocolate (easy-wash bed linens)

Hodgins: Your robot reminds me of you. You tell it to turn it stops. You tell it to stop it turns. You ask it to take out the garbage it watches reruns of Firefly.
http://www.myspace.com/seryndippyt

TRISTAN

Saturday, July 1, 2006 5:40 AM

FireFromHeaven, welcome to the board!
Thank you for your advice...but I am actually in a very good point in my life/relationship...my typing was from experiences in the past. Mostly from my ex-wife...and because of her, I hate all things French now, despite being half French-Canadian...
Yes, there are rough spots at times now, but they are easily worked through.
My wife is younger than I, and was raised a bit differently as well. My experiences far outweigh hers (not bragging, just speaking truth) and a lot of my hang-ups come from not being what I once was. We both attended the same university, and both received degrees in Drama...granted several years apart, but I was always a fixture in that department even when going after other degrees. I am not sure if you are familiar with Drama departments, but they are one big, happy, disfunctional family. There are no secrets, so before she became my wife, she knew what I had been like in the past. Every male slows down and becomes a shadow of his former sexual self as time goes by. This has happened to me. She has never complained, nor has she ever asked anything more from me than I can give in this respect, but it would be nice to be eighteen again, even if it was just in bed.
I also realize that women are more difficult in their sexuality than males. As I have said before I am no Casanova, but I have had many lovers, and was always able to satisfy them both physically, emotionally, and otherwise. I am trying to do that with my wife, and am succeeding for the most part. There are just times when things do not mesh, and I need to vent. Nobody's relationship is ever perfect.
Communication is key, and we have that...sometimes it stutters a bit, but it is there. And I do realize that it is not always about me.

Thank you again, and I hope you hang around with us!

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FIREFROMHEAVEN

Saturday, July 1, 2006 5:56 AM

No, nothing is ever perfect. I do have some passing familiarity with drama departments, mostly from college. I never had any ambitions of being on stage; too shy, I suppose. I had friends, and one boyfriend, who had those aspirations, so I worked in the background of the occasional production.

For some reason, the title of one of them has always stuck with me: "Lou Ann Hampton Laverty Oberlander."

Communication, alas, isn't as obvious as it seems it should be. That truth is a wellspring of human problems that reaches far beyond personal relationships.

PENGUIN

Saturday, July 1, 2006 5:57 AM

*cough* time for a new thread *cough*

TRISTAN

Saturday, July 1, 2006 6:00 AM

On the way!

http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=21918

Our new home!

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