SSC Firefly Series/Episode Trailer Contest
POSTED BY: Hera
UPDATED: Thursday, August 3, 2006 15:06
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"Wanna?" – Mal to Kaylee, Out of Gas
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This is an excellent idea...
figures it come from u 2... god job!
As many peeps as myspace/YouTube touches AND there are some extremely creative browncoats out there.
Hell, I may even try my hand at it.
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Good morning folks.
Just adding to Hera's post that I'm pretty excited about this idea. This is our chance as fans to show our stuff and make ads ( in a way!) that will be seen by potentially thousands of people. Linking to them thru the proposed myspace accounts will be awesome, there are so many people on myspace. Browncoat's waiting to be born. Youtube is so popular it's featured in Entertainment Weekly as THE place to view stuff.
Think of how much potential exposure we're gonna have.
For some ideas on how this might work and some very clever ideas in their own right check out this thread....
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=21900
Now, of course you won't be scripting these "ads" for our BDH's, you'd be using footage from the series just like all vid-ers do. But think of the possibilities there will be. To make things that are funny, and touching that will make folks who have never seen Firefly before want to see it! That is the challenge of this contest.
The voting method will be most likely by a jury from FFF.net, and the winning entries will then be posted to youtube, to then be posted via the Firefly myspace page at a later date.
So come on everyone.. think what you'd like to say about our beloved show and lets do it better than F*X did!
"You hold. Hold 'til I get back." Mal
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I'm resurrecting this thread, because I've seen some comments on the SSC thread that pertain to making ads.
These vids are ads....this is what we need folks...vids that intrigue..that are out of the ordinary from the regular fan approach. Something that will catch the eye of non-flans.
Think of the last commercial or ad that you saw that made you go "Huh?!" just like Mal when he sees River in the box for the first time. It made you want to know more about why River was in the box... well, that is what we want.. we want ads that make folks say "Huh?" and want to know more.
We have so many talented people on this board... I just know if we put our minds to it, we can find a way to make regular -everyday -walking- thru -life -with- no- clue- about- Firefly- folks see this show!
We can spread these vids all across the web with youtube and myspace. We will have Firefly and Serenity cropping up everywhere. C'mon folks, let's get to thinkin'.
Did I mention that there will be a prize! A PRIZE!
Really!!
"You hold. Hold 'til I get back." Mal
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I understand that you want trailers, (which, by the way, I think is a great idea) but I was wondering if some kind of contest could be made for music videos as well. There are many talented editors out there, and I think that attaching music to any media helps with recognition. If people can link Firefly with music they like, it might create more converts.
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Ohhhh! I missed this the first time around. WHAT A GREAT IDEA! I'd love to try my hand at this.
One question though... You stated a length for the vids (1 to 3 minutes), but nowhere is a standard size mentioned. Anyone got an idea on that?
I'll have some time this week to work on something and see what I can put together. I've already got a few ideas (SIMON: "That man is psychotic!" WASH: "Mal, you are psychotic!") that I'd like to play with.
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流口水的婊子和猴子的 笨儿子。
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"Stupid son of a drooling whore and a monkey."

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Arrrggh! The dreaded double post from hell!
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流口水的婊子和猴子的 笨儿子。
Liou coe shway duh biao-tze huh hoe-tze duh bun ur-tze.
"Stupid son of a drooling whore and a monkey."

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I too think this idea rocks! NOw if I only had video equipment and know-how...grrr....
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Ditto. I have loads of ideas for trailers, but don't have a clue how to actually do them. *mutter stupid lack of knowledge mutter*
Desktop Hippie
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Let's see if folks with ideas and folks with the know how and equipment could maybe join forces?
I kinda disappoint in both those departments, but I know we have lots of shiny folks here who are good at this sort of stuff and good at collaborating!
"You hold. Hold 'til I get back." Mal
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I have formidable video editing skills, but currently suffer from a lack of access to video editing software. If I were using my computer right now, instead of my mom's I would just download one, but... maybe when school starts up.
Until then... gif trailers?
Here's one for Simon, based on of the TBS LOTRs commercials. It is totally about to become my non-firefly messageboards sig:
And, a silly one for Jayne's town. Only my brain can take credit for its possibly not funniness:
I will probably make more for my own personal enjoyment. If you like these, I'll keep putting them here.
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River: It's just an object. It doesn't mean what you think...
http://www.stillflying.net/ <-- Check it out!
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We LIKE Arcadia.. please do!!!!
"You hold. Hold 'til I get back." Mal
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One more, because I never was one who could resist playing with a new toy. This time, less of me trying to be funny... in fact, none of that. Simon and River do have the most compelling relationship, imo.
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"Objects in Space"

River: It's just an object. It doesn't mean what you think...
http://www.stillflying.net/ <-- Check it out!
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Oh, Arcadia these are so good.
Keep going please.. we need lots of these things to use all over the web..and I'll bet folks are gonna be using your avatar ads!
"You hold. Hold 'til I get back." Mal
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Well... here is one more than. Except now I need to go fix it, because I just notice I used the wrong "there". Grr.
Also, I adjust the timing and the text on the Jaynestown gif and the It Sucks to be Simon gif.
I'll keep them all together, here http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v206/KMF/Firefly/
hmm... maybe I'll put the latter link in a blog or something later today. hmm.
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"Objects in Space"

River: It's just an object. It doesn't mean what you think...
http://www.stillflying.net/ <-- Check it out!
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Originally posted by PaganPaul:
Ohhhh! I missed this the first time around. WHAT A GREAT IDEA! I'd love to try my hand at this.
One question though... You stated a length for the vids (1 to 3 minutes), but nowhere is a standard size mentioned. Anyone got an idea on that?
Hey there PaganPaul! Sorry took so long to write you back here.
I, unfortunately, have no clue about vid sizes. Can you check out and see if you can grok any specs from what's posted there? The quality varies widely from vid to vid, so the site may not have size requirements that are very strict. I'm thinking about 35MB? That seems to be the size of most vids I download for my own use.
Waddya think?
-Hera
"Wanna?" – Mal to Kaylee, Out of Gas
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Windows Movie Maker is a free program from Microsoft (yeah, weird huh?) that is actually pretty good for editing video clips. I'm actually learning in school right now how to use Adobe Premiere, so I think I'll wait a bit until I know better how to do these things, and then I'll try my hand at it.
When is the contest over anyway? And what will be our prize? Is it shiny? 
"We may experience some slight turbulence, and then... explode."
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Originally posted by micjwelch:
Windows Movie Maker is a free program from Microsoft (yeah, weird huh?) that is actually pretty good for editing video clips. I'm actually learning in school right now how to use Adobe Premiere, so I think I'll wait a bit until I know better how to do these things, and then I'll try my hand at it.
When is the contest over anyway? And what will be our prize? Is it shiny?![]()
We're thinkin' the end of August.
That will only give us 3 or 4 weeks to spread them via youtube and myspace.
And yes the prize is shiny!
We'll be announcing it soon.

"You hold. Hold 'til I get back." Mal
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Well, just posted a trailer for Bushwacked on Youtube (
). First attempt at doing this, no fancy edits or anything, need to brighten some of the scenes a bit, and it may just suck. But it was fun, and I noticed a couple of things in a few scenes that I hand't before (Wash putting his hands in the "Don't shoot" position as the Alliance boards Serenity)NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Hey NAFLM, you're the first to step up! Thank you for this. I like how you approached it from the horror/suspense angle. Nice touch! That's what's cool about doing trailers. There are so many ways to approach the storytelling.
What do you think about adding the info text at the end?
Joss Whedon’s Firefly
“Bushwacked”
Episode 3 of 14
Made for fun, not for profit. All FIREFLY related images are copyright Mutant Enemy, Inc. and 20th Century Fox. This video IS NOT affiliated with Mutant Enemy, Inc. or 20th Century Fox.
How long did it take you, if you don't mind my asking? Any tips you can give on vid making would be appreciated by us.
"Wanna?" – Mal to Kaylee, Out of Gas
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Shiny shiny trailer, naflm!
It led me thru with music and images til I was actually cringing a little.. expecting something to jump out at me.
Great job!
Oh, and don't forget to put the text at the end that Hera suggested! We wanna be all legal like here.
"You hold. Hold 'til I get back." Mal
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Originally posted by Hera:
What do you think about adding the info text at the end?
Crud, knew there was something I was forgetting. I've added the text to the video description on Youtube, I'll update the video as soon as I get the chance, shouldn't be later than this weekend.
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How long did it take you, if you don't mind my asking? Any tips you can give on vid making would be appreciated by us.
Longer than it should have, but that's mostly because it was my first attempt at anything like this and a lot of time was spent learning the software. Ended up doing some things two or three times before I learned how to do it right. (The Zoe/Simon dialogure came out sounding like chipmunks the first time I extracted the audio).
First thing I did was sit through the episode making notes of scenes and music that I could use. Don't know why I started with Bushwacked, except that I had probably watched the pilot shortly before reading this thread (which is where I took the Zoe/Simon dialogue from -- is that cheating?). I'm running Linux so I used a couple of tools to convert the dvd and then extract the scenes I wanted (later I learned I could have simply extracted the scenes I wanted directly from the dvd - d'oh!) I'm running Linux so I used Kino for the video editing, Audacity for the audio editing (free, easy to use and available for Windows too) and Mplayer/transcode to merge everything together. Spent most of Sunday and a bit of Monday night putting it all together. (Again, I stress, this is mostly because I was learning and screwed up several times.)
As for hints or tips, keep in mind that I have a wide experience of "once", so there's not much that I feel comfortable in saying. Best I can do is, if you're extracting snippets of video to work with make the snippets a bit longer than the piece you actually want. I don't know about other software but Kino lets you mark how much of the clip to use, I'm assuming other software would have the same feature. Other than that, I guess, maybe, don't use a scene just because you like it. Originally the trailer was a bit longer; it went from the Alliance soldier to Wash's bit of speech at the beginning of the episode ("Oh my god, what could it be? We're all doomed! Who's flying this thing?!") After viewing the trailer a few times I took it out. I really liked the scene, and I wanted to try and switch tones to give a fuller(?) impression of what Firefly is like, but I found that the way I had it was just too jarring.
My main concern right now is that I've created a trailer that will lure people into a false impresion of the show. You know, like the trailers for a movie the studio can't classify easily, so that make a trailer that pigeonholes it as a specific type, then when you see it it's nothing like the commercial?
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I was watching CNN in my office this evening.
YouTube and MySpace films account for millions of hits a day.
Millions.
We want to be seen by millions right folks?
"You hold. Hold 'til I get back." Mal
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Originally posted by naflm:
My main concern right now is that I've created a trailer that will lure people into a false impresion of the show. You know, like the trailers for a movie the studio can't classify easily, so that make a trailer that pigeonholes it as a specific type, then when you see it it's nothing like the commercial?
Hey NAFLM, sorry took so long to get back to you. Work is hell, getting in the way of the fun stuff.
I don't think your trailer gave a false impression at all. That is a very creepy episode, so your direction was a valid one to take.
There's an interesting discussion in another thread that you may enjoy. I dropped a bunch of stuff in there on video tutorials, which I also added to the post at the top of this thread, for reference.
http://fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=22392
Keep us posted! Would like to see more of your work.
-Hera
"Wanna?" – Mal to Kaylee, Out of Gas
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Hey there folks. I know I'm kinda late to the party but I just had to pop in and say I'm in. I'll be working on some things as soon as I can get the eps downloaded.
And how about that prize. I didn't know there wasa prize. Now curiosity is eating me alive. What is it? I must know. (al la Invader Zim) Tell MEEEEE. Tell me the seecrets!
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Here's my question.
Is this just for the series?
I have a nugget of an idea for a trailer of both the series and the BDM.
Would that count?
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Originally posted by Kayna:
Hey there folks. I know I'm kinda late to the party but I just had to pop in and say I'm in. I'll be working on some things as soon as I can get the eps downloaded.
And how about that prize. I didn't know there was a prize. Now curiosity is eating me alive. What is it? I must know. (al la Invader Zim) Tell MEEEEE. Tell me the seecrets!
You're not late to the party, Kayna, we're just hitting our stride! I'm glad you're in and interesting in trying your hand at this.
What we have in mind for first prize is a trophy adorned with the Serenity ornament from Dark Horse Comics (6" x 3.5"):

The ornament will be mounted to a custom designed base (as we're of the opinion that the base that comes with the ornament may be too small or unsuitable for inscription). The trophy will be inscribed with the name of the winning entrant, dates, Serenity Summer Campaign Firefly Trailer Challenge, etc.
We're developing a wall plaque for runner-ups, honorable mentions.
Will post more info on the prizes as things develop. Also, who the judges will be.
Waddya think?
-Hera
"Wanna?" – Mal to Kaylee, Out of Gas
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Originally posted by dopeyname101:
Here's my question.
Is this just for the series?
I have a nugget of an idea for a trailer of both the series and the BDM.
Would that count?
Hey there Dopeyname101 (great alias, btw), I think inspiration for the project is what means most to us folks, since we do this for fun and not profit. I'm psyched you have ideas you want to explore! If I were talented enough to do a vid project, I would want to tackle both, for a sense of completeness and a certain 'artistic balance'.
Since we're shooting for a level playing field in the contest, you can do both of your ideas, but only place the FF trailer as an entrant.
The reasoning behind this caveat is that TV is a different animal from cinema. The story telling is different, the development of charactor is slower, the imagery less grandiose, more intimate. Serenity to FF may be apples to oranges. It's best to keep them separate.
But also, a Serenity trailer would be a useful thing to have! Anything to spread the word to new folks.
How does that sit with you? Thoughts? Opinions?
-Hera
"Wanna?" – Mal to Kaylee, Out of Gas
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Actually, what I meant was a single trailer utilizing footage and dialogue from both the series and the BDM.
More of a trailer fore the 'Verse, really.
Oh well. I guess I'll just go ahead and make it and not enter it in the contest.
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Originally posted by dopeyname101:
Actually, what I meant was a single trailer utilizing footage and dialogue from both the series and the BDM.
More of a trailer fore the 'Verse, really.
Oh well. I guess I'll just go ahead and make it and not enter it in the contest.
Since we've never done anything like this afore, being new territory and all, I'm thinking we need more categories in order for this contest to work properly. This is me thinking out loud here, so:
FIRST-TIME VIDDERS
Best First Effort-Series Overview
Best First Effort-Single Episode
Best First Effort-All Episodes (14 entries)
Best Single Episode
Best Series Overview
Best All Episodes
Best None of the Above
Of course, they would have shinier titles, but this is a rough list for now.
You could enter your trailer into the "None of the Above Category". FFF are very creative people, and I don't want to squelch anyones enthusiasm because of the structure necessary in order to hold a contest in the first place.
What say you on this approach?
-Hera
"Wanna?" – Mal to Kaylee, Out of Gas
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Hi Hera,
thanks for telling me about this. I will try to come up with something.
Have fun,
Capella
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See I have an idea for a series of character ads. Kinda like the character trailers I found on my Episode I DVD. Not meaning to steal, they will be very different from that but to illustrate the point you know.
I want to do a few others as well but that character series doesn't really fit in any of your catagories. I'll do them anyway and see how they come out.
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Hi all,
It's been a long time since I have posted here. I think this is a great idea; however, I'm not sure what to make. I've made music videos but I've never made a trailer. Here’s the reason why. To make a decent trailer you still need music, hence a music video. In addition to this you need an announcer of some sort. I don't have professional audio equipment to do this. However, I would love to add my talents to the mess so tell me what you want me to do, and I'll do it.
Who's joining me?
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Argh Hera, I never realized it could be done with movie maker. Hmmm... I really want to make a trailer now! but damnit, gonna be out of the country for a week, then busy like crazy for a month. Well, I can try. Sometime. Maybe. 
Eh, maybe I can storyboard while I'm gone.
"But, these strong women characters?"
"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon
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Originally posted by ImEarly:
Hi all,
It's been a long time since I have posted here. I think this is a great idea; however, I'm not sure what to make. I've made music videos but I've never made a trailer. Here’s the reason why. To make a decent trailer you still need music, hence a music video. In addition to this you need an announcer of some sort. I don't have professional audio equipment to do this. However, I would love to add my talents to the mess so tell me what you want me to do, and I'll do it.
Who's joining me?
How about using supertitles like the Serenity trailer? There was no announcer on that. Then the music you could use would be from the series soundtrack, or another tune of your choosing, but just no lyrics.
http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/serenity/serenity_med.html
Waddya think?
"Wanna?" – Mal to Kaylee, Out of Gas
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Originally posted by Whitefall:
Hmmm... I really want to make a trailer now! but damnit, gonna be out of the country for a week, then busy like crazy for a month. Well, I can try. Sometime. Maybe.
Eh, maybe I can storyboard while I'm gone.
I say go for it! Story boarding is fun. Especially if you'll be on a plane for several hours!
Hope you can fit it in.
-Hera
"Wanna?" – Mal to Kaylee, Out of Gas
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yeah... btw, is there a good place to download the eps? Preferably w/o the F*X logo? Or any way to use the CDs for movie making?
Just curious.
"But, these strong women characters?"
"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon
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Originally posted by Whitefall:
yeah... btw, is there a good place to download the eps? Preferably w/o the F*X logo? Or any way to use the CDs for movie making?
At the beginning of this thread are some links to tutorials. Do a google search for your platform.
EDIT: here's a thread talking about video tutorials and such. Good info for those starting out on their first vid project.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=22392#342274
-Hera
"Wanna?" – Mal to Kaylee, Out of Gas
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I found some download sites, decent quality. Just curious if there are any without the logo is all.
But then again, with the logo means it was on TV, which means it's legal because I own the DVDs (i think). But i bet striping the DVDs is all sorts of illegal. Same with the movie i'm betting.
"But, these strong women characters?"
"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon
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Sounds interesting - and more than that, it sounds like a good idea to get people into the series. I'll take a look at it. Maybe I can come up with something.
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Thanks Cub! Will look forward to it!
-Hera
"Wanna?" – Mal to Kaylee, Out of Gas
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Originally posted by Whitefall:
I found some download sites, decent quality. Just curious if there are any without the logo is all.
But then again, with the logo means it was on TV, which means it's legal because I own the DVDs (i think). But i bet striping the DVDs is all sorts of illegal. Same with the movie i'm betting.
Let me be perfectly blunt concerning FanVid construction. It’s all illegal. Nevertheless, many people who create these shows do not mind fans making the videos as it is a form of free publicity. Publicity = Money! As long as makers of said videos are not out to make a buck, they should be fine. Now then, the acquisition of video… There are several ways. Most preferred is the DVD Rip. However most used is the downloaded video. ie Bittorrent. Personally I use DVD Rips.
There have been many posts concerning the making of the video, This is the very best out there.
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtech/
It comes from a website dedicated to making AMV’s (Anime Music Videos). It has everything, including easy to follow instruction to the Ripping process and free and legal software (AMVapp). This was my starting point. Good luck.
Battlestar Galactica fan too?
Go sign my Guest Book, http://www.geocities.com/thisbrownhouse
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Originally posted by Hera:Quote:
Originally posted by dopeyname101:
Actually, what I meant was a single trailer utilizing footage and dialogue from both the series and the BDM.
More of a trailer fore the 'Verse, really.
Oh well. I guess I'll just go ahead and make it and not enter it in the contest.
Since we've never done anything like this afore, being new territory and all, I'm thinking we need more categories in order for this contest to work properly. This is me thinking out loud here, so:
FIRST-TIME VIDDERS
Best First Effort-Series Overview
Best First Effort-Single Episode
Best First Effort-All Episodes (14 entries)
Best Single Episode
Best Series Overview
Best All Episodes
Best None of the Above
Of course, they would have shinier titles, but this is a rough list for now.
You could enter your trailer into the "None of the Above Category". FFF are very creative people, and I don't want to squelch anyones enthusiasm because of the structure necessary in order to hold a contest in the first place.
What say you on this approach?
-Hera
"Wanna?" – Mal to Kaylee, Out of Gas
Here's my concern: do you really think we're gonna have enough entries to distinguish it between "first-time vidders" and people with experience? In addition to the (possibly low) number of entries, there's really no way to verify if someone is, in fact, a first-time vidder. For example, I've had loads of experience with editing, but I could start a new member ID on here and say that I was a rookie (not gonna do that, but just saying.)
I also don't really get the differentiation between "all episodes" and "series overview." Unless you're saying that "all episodes" is for someone who's done an individual trailer for each episode, and "series overview" is a single trailer that covers the entire series.
I think my thing is, narrow it down to one or two categories (maybe three) and work from there. Too many categories will spread the competition (and work) too thin.
Maybe a "Best Episode Trailer" category, a "Best Series Overview" category, and either a "Best Overall" or a "Viewer's Choice" or something to that effect.
Also not sure if just views on YouTube is the best way to judge the contest. A view is just someone watching it. YouTube does utilize a rating system - maybe work that into the judging somehow? I'm not sure what kind of formula you'd need to use, since not everyone would have the same number of ratings.
Just ideas. Use 'em or don't, your prerogative.
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Here's my concern: do you really think we're gonna have enough entries to distinguish it between "first-time vidders" and people with experience? In addition to the (possibly low) number of entries, there's really no way to verify if someone is, in fact, a first-time vidder. For example, I've had loads of experience with editing, but I could start a new member ID on here and say that I was a rookie (not gonna do that, but just saying.)
All valid points. My hope to use this contest to inspire first-time vidders to get involved may be misplaced, since our goal is to produce highly-quality, fan-made trailers to promote the series. It may be a better idea to host a separate vid contest at a later date only for first-timers. Permaybehaps music video entries, since they're less technically challenging.
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I also don't really get the differentiation between "all episodes" and "series overview." Unless you're saying that "all episodes" is for someone who's done an individual trailer for each episode, and "series overview" is a single trailer that covers the entire series.
You are correct! "All Episodes" would be 14 videos, one for each ep. "Series Overview" would allow footage from all the episodes, and would be 1 video.
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...narrow it down to one or two categories (maybe three) and work from there. Too many categories will spread the competition (and work) too thin.
Maybe a "Best Episode Trailer" category, a "Best Series Overview" category, and either a "Best Overall" or a "Viewer's Choice" or something to that effect.
I was soldiering on in the hope that we receive more entries than we can handle, but, alas, the voice of reason has been heard to say otherwise! I'll hash out the categories with FollowMal (and possibly 11th), since the cost for the number of awards is also an issue.
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Also not sure if just views on YouTube is the best way to judge the contest. A view is just someone watching it. YouTube does utilize a rating system - maybe work that into the judging somehow? I'm not sure what kind of formula you'd need to use, since not everyone would have the same number of ratings.
Your concern is valid. It would be better to have the videos judged by a jury of peers rather than polled on youtube. Also, simple web polls can be skewed if there isn't a sign-in setup, so that may not be the way to go either. I'll look further into the judging option.
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Just ideas. Use 'em or don't, your prerogative.
I'll have more clarifying info soon. Thank you for the comments, dopeyname101. They've been very helpful.
-Hera
"Wanna?" – Mal to Kaylee, Out of Gas
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I was just searching around youtube and I found some Very talented Firefly vidders. I think it would be worth an effort to contact them and let them know about the contest. They are making a lot of music videos, but, why not harness their talent and creativity to enter this contest and find the best of the videos?
I think it would be great to have a trailer for every episode on a website devoted to converting fans to firefly (maybe here?) I think this project could be used toward that goal, and it sounds like that is exactly what you had in mind, so you have my full support!
LEt me know if I can help out in any way, other than actually making the videos... :) I cant edit, sorry!
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I was just searching around youtube and I found some Very talented Firefly vidders. I think it would be worth an effort to contact them and let them know about the contest.
This is a really awesome idea, jtskier!
Would you be willing to help by contacting them and telling them about the contest? I can send you a letter to paste into their PM system to make it easier for you.
This really would help us out alot. The fff event team is stretched a little thin right now.
You can contact me direct by PMing me through my profile page if you'd like to help, and I can fill you in on the particulars!
http://fireflyfans.net/showprofile.asp?un=Hera
-Hera
"Wanna?" – Mal to Kaylee, Out of Gas
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I sure will help. Anyone else know of any video boards I can look around to find people? I will search on my own, but I will try to look around.
Also, do we know what the prize is?
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Also, do we know what the prize is?
The Serenity ornament that will be mounted onto a trophy is shown about halfway down in this (rather long) thread.
And thank you so much for the offer of help! You rock.
-Hera
"Wanna?" – Mal to Kaylee, Out of Gas
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Wow, thats nice. Sorry I didnt see that!
Lesson #1 of message boards: always read all the posts before asking stupid questions...woops!
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Bumpity Bump for the Newbies.
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Ive contacted the vidders who I think have VERY good video's on Youtube with an invitation to this thread. Thanks to all who are looking here! I hope you find this a friendly community. Why dont all the nice fff.net people say a quick hello?
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Normally I'm more into making the music vids, but this is a noble cause. Gimme the 65, I'm on the job!
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Normally I'm more into making the music vids, but this is a noble cause. Gimme the 65, I'm on the job!
Heh. Great quote.
Bye bye boys!
Have fun storming the castle!
Think it'll work?
It would take a miracle.
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Hey interesting idea,never made a trailor before sounds like fun Im in ^.^ tho i dont have any of teh episodes just the movie, Is it cool if i use the movie clips or is it just episodes?
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Is it cool if i use the movie clips or is it just episodes?
The contest is for episode trailers (there are 14 separate episodes) and/or a trailer showcasing the series.
No movie clips! Sorry.
-Hera
"Wanna?" – Mal to Kaylee, Out of Gas
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The contest is for episode trailers (there are 14 separate episodes) and/or a trailer showcasing the series.
No movie clips! Sorry.
-Hera
Wouldn't the "Best None of the Above" category include movie clips? I did the Return to Serenity trailer on youtube () which includes both episode and movie clips (as well as non-Firefly clips, for added flavour) and was led to believe on another thread I could enter it in the contest. I'm also working on a longer trailer which I might enter instead.
Also, is there one winner in each category? One overall winner? Thanks.
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The vidder who mentioned the movie clips intimated that they did not have episode clips at all, and was doing a movie trailer only.
Kayna mentioned doing character studies, DopeyName101 is interested in doing a 'verse trailer with clips from both the series and the movie. Both are eligible for the "None of the Above" category, which will be renamed to something funner by this weekend.
As it stands now, there will be three or four categories.
Best Series Trailer
Best Episode Trailer
Best None of the Above [insert new name here]
DopeyName101 had suggested it be called "Viewers Choice" or some such.
In my shiny mind I hoped to have a vidder enter all 14 episodes as a creative "catalog" entry. If we have entrants in that vein, there will be a trophy for Best Episode Explosion, or some such.
Does this help clarify? Additional thoughts?
-Hera
"Wanna?" – Mal to Kaylee, Out of Gas
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I did the Return to Serenity trailer on youtube () which includes both episode and movie clips (as well as non-Firefly clips, for added flavour) and was led to believe on another thread I could enter it in the contest.
Oh, and this vid was way cool! Great idea to mix the footage to make it feel like something new.
-Hera
"Wanna?" – Mal to Kaylee, Out of Gas
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Additional thoughts?
-Hera
When it comes to making Music videos or trailers, it is very difficult to set strict rules. As many people use many different video applications, have different episodes available to them, and have varying experience. As you have already read my video theory from another thread (You’re probably the only one), these videos are about telling a story, and so it is important that the artist chose whichever footage helps to tell that story.
P.S. I’m done. I think I used four or five episodes.
Go sign my Guest Book, http://www.geocities.com/thisbrownhouse
Then download Serenity and Call Me
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Just clarifying (and bumping):
Deadline is August 31st, right?
That should leave me enough time to get my ruttin' Mac display fixed up. Stupid thing's on the fritz, kinda like the backlight's dying on it.
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Does this help clarify? Additional thoughts?
Yes, and thanks!
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Just clarifying (and bumping):
Deadline is August 31st, right?
That should leave me enough time to get my ruttin' Mac display fixed up. Stupid thing's on the fritz, kinda like the backlight's dying on it.
Yessir! August 31st. And bummer. Good luck with your monitor.
I'll be posting this weekend with instructions on how to get the entries submitted -- DO NOT POST TO YOUTUBE!! I will be posting them as a group in my name, with credits and entry categories, etc, all legal and tidy. I will also post about how the judging will play out.
EDIT: and when I say upload the vids to youtube in my name, I mean I will be the user who uploaded the vids. Each vid author will have their name prominently displayed with their entries.
Stay tuned!
-Hera
"Wanna?" – Mal to Kaylee, Out of Gas
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Each teaser would open with the FF animated logo, to tie them all together.
What FF animated logo,I'm would like to do a trailer but I don't know where to find this FF animated logo.

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What FF animated logo,I'm would like to do a trailer but I don't know where to find this FF animated logo.
The animated Firefly logo appears onscreen in each episode. It plays at the beginning of the theme song ("take my love, take my land etc), the section that introduces each character and the actor that plays them.
This segment always appears a short bit into the episode, after the intro teaser footage.
-Hera
"Wanna?" – Mal to Kaylee, Out of Gas
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Thanks HERA I would like to make a trailer but I'm not sure I can make one in time you see I only became a member today.
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Heya Darkfly, the deadline to have entries turned in by is August 31st. Good luck and I hope to see your work!
"Wanna?" – Mal to Kaylee, Out of Gas
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Well, here's my first of many. This was quite possibly the most fun I've had with video editing.
Also, I made a clip of just the disclaimer at the end. If you want me to send it to you so you can just clip it onto anything you make, drop me a line at stubbyandporkchop@yahoo.com, I'll email it to you in mpeg format. (It's not very big.) Enjoy!
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TheForceMonkey, thank you! I'm glad you had fun doing it, and look forward to your other entries!
Please don't post them to youtube yet, as I need to collect the entries and post them with specific headers so that the judges can find them. I also don't want the vids that have been around longer to have less of a chance than later entries. Think "Academy Awards", and you'll know what I'm talking about.
The info about NOT putting the vids up on youtube was added to this thread after the fact, so you may have missed it. My apologies for that.
I'm posting specific submission instructions this weekend, so please check back Monday!
-Hera
"Wanna?" – Mal to Kaylee, Out of Gas
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my first double post. GAH!
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Hey Hera you say we're not making music videos does that mean we're not allowed any music(cause I wouldn't mind) and can you use voice over's taken form the series.Thanks
Remember to vote for everything Firefly/Sereinty related at http://www.syfyportal.com/genre-awards/2006/index.php
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Hey Hera you say we're not making music videos does that mean we're not allowed any music(cause I wouldn't mind) and can you use voice over's taken form the series.Thanks
Heya Darkfly, I think the previous post below answers your question. Let me know if it doesn't! Just to clarify, the series soundtrack is available on CD.
-Hera
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Originally posted by ImEarly:
It's been a long time since I have posted here. I think this is a great idea; however, I'm not sure what to make. I've made music videos but I've never made a trailer. Here’s the reason why. To make a decent trailer you still need music, hence a music video. In addition to this you need an announcer of some sort. I don't have professional audio equipment to do this. However, I would love to add my talents to the mess so tell me what you want me to do, and I'll do it.
How about using supertitles like the Serenity trailer? There was no announcer on that. Then the music you could use would be from the series soundtrack, or another tune of your choosing, but just no lyrics.
http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/serenity/serenity_med.html
"Wanna?" – Mal to Kaylee, Out of Gas
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Well I have my entry done, just waiting for the details. But while we wait if you havent seen my serenity trailer here's that link:
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Hey HERA do want a specific file type for the trailer like WMV,MPEG,or AVI or is it any file type.
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What is Audicity?
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What is Audicity?
Send a PM to NAFLM further up in the thread, as he is the user of that program. To do that, click on his name in the title of his post,that link will take you to his profile page, and you can send a message from there.
Or, if you had quoted or replied to *his* post, an email would have been sent to him informing him that you had responded to his post, and he would have responded to you that way.
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Hey HERA do want a specific file type for the trailer like WMV,MPEG,or AVI or is it any file type.
Here are the specs for youtube, where the videos will be posted AFTER judging.
This info has been updated in the post at the top of this thread, FYI. Please re-read the top post on occasion. If it's been updated, I'll mention it in my latest posts, like now.
-Hera
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Go to http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=19&t=22697 for more info!
"Wanna?" – Mal to Kaylee, Out of Gas
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Just finished a trailer for the 2-hour pilot episode. It's here: http://bradcpu.com/1videos1/serenitytrailer.zip (zipped/19MB/2:24 wmv)
Here's its temporary home at YouTube:
It uses the following songs from the soundtrack: "Whitefall/Book," "Reavers Chase Serenity," and "Burgess Kills."
Fun project! Plus I think I learned some things while doing it. Hope it helps with promoting the show.
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Well I have my entry done, just waiting for the details. But while we wait if you havent seen my serenity trailer here's that link:
That was absolutely amazing!!!!
I think the movie would have been much more successful if marketed like that...
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Well, I've sent a few your way. Hope you enjoy them. =)
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Sent mine in hope you like it
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Hey, here's a question for you-
How do you know whose is whose? I sent mine in, but I didn't see anywhere to give credit to myself for them. They were saved in mpeg format, and entitled "Firefly Trailer 1 - Meet the Crew" "Firefly Trailer 2 - Action" and "Firefly Trailer 3 - Best Show" respectively. (Assuming you've alread received them and don't know whom to attribute them.) Just thought I'd drop a heads up.
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Well, here's my first of many. This was quite possibly the most fun I've had with video editing.
Also, I made a clip of just the disclaimer at the end. If you want me to send it to you so you can just clip it onto anything you make, drop me a line at stubbyandporkchop@yahoo.com, I'll email it to you in mpeg format. (It's not very big.) Enjoy!
Hey Monkey, That was great...brilliant even. Nailed every character. I would know them even if I never say an ep. before. And would make me wanta see more.
* tips hat *
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Forcemonkey... it does rock.
You, my friend, are responsible for a convert. I have a list of "hard-to-converts" and your video made one of them want to see the series. He has it now. Woo Hoo!
Thanks and congrats!
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Hey- rock on. Gotta make as many browncoats as we can!
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Since I already posted my video ("Return to Serenity" trailer) on youtube before I even knew there was a contest, and would rather it remain there under my own name, I'm not sure if it qualifies for the contest ("none of the above" category I presume) or not. Anyway, if it qualifies, consider it my entry, and if not, no worries.
I have a new trailer, which I like even more than that one, almost ready to go... Not in time for the contest, though. :)
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Well, I've sent a few your way. Hope you enjoy them. =)
Duly received, theforcemonkey, and safely downloaded. I have three, currently in a folder with your name on it.
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Hey, here's a question for you-
How do you know whose is whose? I sent mine in, but I didn't see anywhere to give credit to myself for them. They were saved in mpeg format, and entitled "Firefly Trailer 1 - Meet the Crew" "Firefly Trailer 2 - Action" and "Firefly Trailer 3 - Best Show" respectively. (Assuming you've alread received them and don't know whom to attribute them.) Just thought I'd drop a heads up.
And these are the ones in your folder! Thank you for submitting them. I'm not watching them on purpose, just so you know!
I'm going to update the first post to request entrants shoot me an email (doeramey3000@yahoo.com) or a PM through my profile page ( http://www.fireflyfans.net/showprofile.asp?un=Hera) telling me the filename that has been uploaded to yousendit, so I can match the vid with the creator. FYI, the PM through FFF assures anonymity.
-Hera
"Wanna?" – Mal to Kaylee, Out of Gas
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Well I have my entry done, just waiting for the details. But while we wait if you havent seen my serenity trailer here's that link:
Holy crap Hogwaffle! That was awesome!
And Hera, I checked the first post again and I'm a little confused about where we're sending these. Do we e-mail tham to you or do we send them to that site you posted? Am I being comletely dense?
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Just finished a trailer for the 2-hour pilot episode. It's here: http://bradcpu.com/1videos1/serenitytrailer.zip (zipped/19MB/2:24 wmv)
Here's its temporary home at YouTube:
I've downloaded your entry, Cub. I'm so pleased we're getting entries from folks so soon. We still have 4 weeks before the submission deadline! Shiny!
-Hera
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And Hera, I checked the first post again and I'm a little confused about where we're sending these. Do we e-mail tham to you or do we send them to that site you posted? Am I being comletely dense?
No, you're not dense, at least no more than me. It's all new technology to me! I downloaded my first video from yousendit today, and only signed up yesterday
Create an account on www.yousendit,com. Username, password. Upload your file, drop my email address in the send field. Upload. It sends me an email with a link to download the file. BUT, there is no identifier except the filename, so please also shoot me a PM or email to my yahoo, with your filename and name in it so I can match 'em up.
Also, it is a very good idea for the creators to put their names [alias] in the credits at the end, so once it's out in the world, people know who created the video. I'm a gonna update the top post to reflect that fact.
Lemme know if you need more info!
-Hera
"Wanna?" – Mal to Kaylee, Out of Gas
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Since I already posted my video ("Return to Serenity" trailer) on youtube before I even knew there was a contest, and would rather it remain there under my own name, I'm not sure if it qualifies for the contest ("none of the above" category I presume) or not. Anyway, if it qualifies, consider it my entry, and if not, no worries.
I have a new trailer, which I like even more than that one, almost ready to go... Not in time for the contest, though. :)
Hey Hans, we'll add "Return to Serenity" to the list for the none of the above category, for it's sheer audacity and original concept.
Is your new trailer for the series? Why don't you have time to submit it? The deadline is 4 weeks away, August 31st.
-Hera
"Wanna?" – Mal to Kaylee, Out of Gas
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Can i submit my serenity trailer to best other?
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Can i submit my serenity trailer to best other?
Please do! Since it surely does fall into the "None of the Above" category. Can you send it to me over yousendit? I'll be sending the vids out on DVD to the judges with a ballot. Sounds arcane, I know, but in this case, it's the best solution.
FYI, I did add the award categories to the top post, for ease of reference. Still working on snazzy titles. Open to suggestions, folks!
-Hera
"Wanna?" – Mal to Kaylee, Out of Gas
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Heya kids, please check over the top post of the thread, as I've updated and clarified several points of information. Let me know if you have any questions.
-Hera
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Hey Hans, we'll add "Return to Serenity" to the list for the none of the above category, for it's sheer audacity and original concept.
Is your new trailer for the series? Why don't you have time to submit it? The deadline is 4 weeks away, August 31st.
-Hera
"Wanna?" – Mal to Kaylee, Out of Gas
Silly me, I thought the contest ended on July 31st, not Aug 31st... D'oh!
The new trailer is another "Return to Serenity" trailer using footage from deleted scenes, other movies, etc., to give the impression of a new film. It's effectively done, I'm just polishing it up right now.
Thanks for organizing this contest!
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Nice one Cub! Great use of music and dialogue!
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Thanks, Hans!
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Well this is an interesting contest to enter. I wish that Fox didn't cancel the show, sure they'll let 90210 go on for 10 years and kill the good ones. Anyways this is the first time posting here, I had uploaded a music video based on Firefly to Youtube and someone from here (I guess) pointed me here to the contest. Well this is the link to the file the person saw:
Well I finished my trailer for the pilot episode. I was working on mine when I checked here and there was one done, but oh well, I think ours are different and his is really good. I have just uploaded my file to You tube so here is the link:
Too bad this wasn't for one of those signed scripts as well.
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush----What the hell does that mean?
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Anyways this is the first time posting here, I had uploaded a music video based on Firefly to Youtube and someone from here (I guess) pointed me here to the contest. Well this is the link to the file the person saw:Quote:
Betcha it was Jtskier1200r who sent you to us. Welcome, SuicideSquirrel171, and thank you for the link!Quote:
Originally posted by SuicideSquirrel71:
Well I finished my trailer for the pilot episode. I was working on mine when I checked here and there was one done, but oh well, I think ours are different and his is really good. I have just uploaded my file to You tube so here is the link:
Makes no never mind that a trailer has already been entered for the pilot episode. What we want is for folks to get involved, have fun and learn about fanvids. And help us get the word out about this awesome show!
Can you send me your pilot entry to the yousendit account? I'd appreciate it.
GAH! This html is defeating me today.
-Hera
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Yet another change to the submission guidelines. I've updated the original post as well. I'm sorry to keep changing this, put I think this will work best for our judges. And it will be easier for you folks in the end as well.
-Hera
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EDIT!! 08/02/06:[/]
SUBMISSION: LATEST INFO: I apologize abjectly for changing this YET again. In light of tech difficulties with yousendit, the fact that one of our judges is in the UK, and because most of the vids are there already, please POST YOUR SUBMISSION TO YOUTUBE and email the url to me at doeramey3000@yahoo.com
Sorry for yanking everybodies chain about this.
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Originally posted by Hans:
Silly me, I thought the contest ended on July 31st, not Aug 31st... D'oh!
The new trailer is another "Return to Serenity" trailer using footage from deleted scenes, other movies, etc., to give the impression of a new film. It's effectively done, I'm just polishing it up right now.
Thanks for organizing this contest!
Hans, I'm psyched you can enter more vids. That is awesome. And you're welcome. FollowMal came up with the contest idea, and she let me run with it since I love movies and fanvids so much. I'm having the time of my life! This is so fun, and it's cool to see the different angles with which people approach the story telling process. We have so many talented folks in the fandom.
-Hera
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No problem Hera. This is the first time you've done something like this right?
Next time you'll have a better idea how to go about things.
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