PirateNews, please don't stop.

POSTED BY: SergeantX
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SERGEANTX

Wednesday, June 28, 2006 10:04 PM

Not much to my request. PN, please give it a break, you've had more than your share of cheap attention. Not that it matters to you, but you've ruined RWE for me. Maybe that was your intention. I come here very seldom lately because any good stuff that does get posted is washed away below your constant waterfall of lurid junk.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

PDCHARLES

Wednesday, June 28, 2006 10:24 PM

I echo this request with an inexorable fervor...

not even amusing to poke at him... 'cause I am sure this will be filled with many people using the long, PN-like adjectives to describe his endless jibberish.

Ok... really... my scroll finger hurts

RUE

Wednesday, June 28, 2006 11:06 PM

SergeantX,

Please don't let PN keep you away.

Rue

MISSTRESSAHARA

Wednesday, June 28, 2006 11:23 PM

I third that request, it's become rediculous.

I'm afraid to voice my opinion on this thread.

If I'm a bitch, then life just got interesting

SOUPCATCHER

Wednesday, June 28, 2006 11:29 PM

I agree wholeheartedly.

And my scroll wheel is wearing out.

And, PN, you already have a platform for your diatribes. It's your own website. There's no need to duplicate here what you have there. If you feel that something you've worked on at your site would add to the discussion (note: discussion, not information dump) Post. A. Link. Not. The. Whole. Damn. Thing.

RIVER6213

Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:28 AM

PirateNews,

I'm not sure if you mean well or just messing with us but your posts usally contains way too much information and most of that information is BS. You put shock value photos up, and you go one and on, and on. Its stops being amusing and starts to becoming annoying.

This is the real world event section of the forum in which real world events are discussed or debated. It is not blog.com.

River

HIXIE129

Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:54 AM

PirateNews

CHRISISALL

Thursday, June 29, 2006 3:22 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SergeantX:
I come here very seldom lately

We need you Chrisisall

RIVER6213

Thursday, June 29, 2006 3:27 AM

?

CAUSAL

Thursday, June 29, 2006 3:41 AM

Hear! Hear! Give it a break, PN.

And let me third the request for you not to go away, Sarge.

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I wish I had a magical wish-granting plank.

MISSTRESSAHARA

Thursday, June 29, 2006 5:16 AM

The thing of it is he's obviously a troll. He should be banned and his posts sent to the garbage heap otherwise known as troll country.

If I'm a bitch, then life just got interesting

CHOO1701

Thursday, June 29, 2006 6:02 AM

How about entering a discussion on FIREFLY and SERENITY at one piont or another? Come on, its fun. And shiny. And you might be respected more.

and Hello Sarge. Another famous Browncoat i've never heard of before

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"Remember, always be yourself. Unless you suck."-Joss Whedon

ITES RULE!!!!

PIRATENEWS

Thursday, June 29, 2006 8:55 AM

Don't. Don't. Don't stop.

Quote:
Originally posted by SergeantX:

Not much to my request. PN, please give it a break, you've had more than your share of cheap attention. Not that it matters to you, but you've ruined RWE for me. Maybe that was your intention. I come here very seldom lately because any good stuff that does get posted is washed away below your constant waterfall of lurid junk.

SergeantX

Dear Sarge,

Poor baby. Are you suicidal? Ha ha ha! JUST DO IT.

Otherwise STFU and get back to reality. I notice none of you trolls care to discuss FF, nor reality. Does that seem right to you?

I do appreciate the compliment of naming threads for little ole me. Sounds like a fanclub.

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Twenty-Five Ways To Suppress Truth: The Rules of Disinformation

Includes The 8 Traits of A Disinformationalist

by H. Michael Sweeney
www.MKZine.com
Spring/Summer 2003

5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary 'attack the messenger' ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as 'kooks', 'right-wing', 'liberal', 'left-wing', 'terrorists', 'conspiracy buffs', 'radicals', 'militia', 'racists', 'religious fanatics', 'sexual deviates', and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.

6. Hit and Run. In any public forum, make a brief attack of your opponent or the opponent position and then scamper off before an answer can be fielded, or simply ignore any answer. This works extremely well in Internet and letters-to-the-editor environments where a steady stream of new identities can be called upon without having to explain criticism, reasoning -- simply make an accusation or other attack, never discussing issues, and never answering any subsequent response, for that would dignify the opponent's viewpoint.

9. Play Dumb. No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues except with denials they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect.

17. Change the subject. Usually in connection with one of the other ploys listed here, find a way to side-track the discussion with abrasive or controversial comments in hopes of turning attention to a new, more manageable topic. This works especially well with companions who can 'argue' with you over the new topic and polarize the discussion arena in order to avoid discussing more key issues.

18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. If you can't do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how 'sensitive they are to criticism.'

www.whale.to/m/disin.html
www.911review.org/Wiki/RulesOfDisinformation.shtml
www.whale.to/b/sweeney.html

Examples & response:
www.proparanoid.net/truth.htm

Wash: That sounds like something out of science fiction.
Zoe: My other husband was in The Matrix, Dear.

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Abbie Bernstein:

Do you believe a government can be shamed into or out of what it's doing by the actions of individuals?

Joss Whedon:

The idea was to say that people can make a difference, they can show the wrongs that are being done. They can speak out against them and make people aware of them. They can even create giant scandals. Sometimes they can topple governments. The point is that the truth is always more important than the power structure, and whether you make a dent or not, the fact that you succeeded in trying is a victory.

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Tangerine Dream -

DEEPGIRL187

Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:41 PM

See, this is what Sergeant was talking about.

I rarely post on RWE, mostly because of people like PN. It starts to get really unpleasant posting an honest opinion when trolls (not just PN) start to shoot you down with incoherent jibberish. Agressive debate is fine and all, but not when it starts to become bogged down with juvenile sniping. As you can see, many of us have had enough of it. If you can't be civilized about posting, find somewhere else to voice your ideas, somewhere that will accept it.

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This is my story...

CHRISISALL

Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:49 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by piratenews:

Are you suicidal?

How are you feeling, PN?
I worry about you. That question seemed odd, it had no precursor, are you feeling suicidal? Maybe just down? Is that why you're so antagonistic?
Message me privately, maybe I can help. You don't have to walk this road alone. Others have crawled out of depression, and been able to finally connect. Won't you try?

No?

Then please,
sod off.

Fuzzy-wuzzy psychotheraputic Chrisisall

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Thursday, June 29, 2006 12:52 PM

I too am sick of PN.

Perhaps if everyone just stops posting when he comes into a discussion - he will give up and go away.

HERO

Thursday, June 29, 2006 3:42 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
I too am sick of PN.

I agree. I really and trully agree with the notion expressed by every person (except PN) who has posted this thread. Now how often can we all agree on any single thing. Rich, poor, conservative, liberal, pro-war, anti-war, pro-Bush, anti-Bush, treehuggers, big Oil, Michael Moore, and Rush Limbaugh...by God we all can finally come together with one voice and dislike PN.

Part of me wonders if we should celebrate PN for the gift he has given us.

From now on the only PirateNews I want to hear needs to involve Johnny Depp.

H

RUE

Thursday, June 29, 2006 4:21 PM

I just scroll. I don't even read the posts enough to get an inkling. So I don't feel a need to 'fix' them. They do clutter up the threads, though.

Quote:
Originally posted by deepgirl187:
See, this is what Sergeant was talking about.

I rarely post on RWE, mostly because of people like PN. It starts to get really unpleasant posting an honest opinion when trolls (not just PN) start to shoot you down with incoherent jibberish. Agressive debate is fine and all, but not when it starts to become bogged down with juvenile sniping. As you can see, many of us have had enough of it. If you can't be civilized about posting, find somewhere else to voice your ideas, somewhere that will accept it.

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This is my story...

CHOO1701

Thursday, June 29, 2006 9:17 PM

Sorry dude, but you need to be Sent to Coventry! (somepeople might call it blanking.) Post no interst in his posts, and then he might go away.

Bye PN.
Have fun.
So long, fair well...
Don't call us...
good ridence

Gorramit FMF. You got there first....
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"Remember, always be yourself. Unless you suck."-Joss Whedon

ITES RULE!!!!

RUXTON

Thursday, June 29, 2006 9:58 PM

Actually, we all don't disagree with PN. Much if not most of what he posts is FACT, easily proven if you follow his links. I actually see some grand humor in his posts.

But of course my posting here will, as always, kill this thread -- so it really doesn't matter.

I'm gone, chillun. Be back in six months or so, perhaps never; unless my prediction for 1 July holds true, in which case you'll hear about it.

BROOKLYNBROWNCOAT

Thursday, June 29, 2006 10:16 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
I too am sick of PN.

Perhaps if everyone just stops posting when he comes into a discussion - he will give up and go away.

wow, someone less popular than me!! banish him to troll contry, i'll deal with him

CITIZEN

Thursday, June 29, 2006 11:25 PM

I've said it before and I'll say it again:

If I point out a cloud and call it a glargon death fleet here to steal are Women and Rape our donkeys that doesn't mean the cloud doesn't exist...

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
And as you know, these are open forums, you're able to come and listen to what I have to say.

HKCAVALIER

Friday, June 30, 2006 2:01 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Ruxton:
Actually, we all don't disagree with PN. Much if not most of what he posts is FACT, easily proven if you follow his links. I actually see some grand humor in his posts.

But of course my posting here will, as always, kill this thread -- so it really doesn't matter.

I'm gone, chillun. Be back in six months or so, perhaps never; unless my prediction for 1 July holds true, in which case you'll hear about it.

Ruxton! You're still here! Ah, good. Dang, it's taking a long ass time, ain't it, Rux?

I'm sorta kinda taken aback by the "will of the people" on this thread--reminds me of a past life I lived in Salem, Mass a couple hundred years ago. This is not the place for censorship and ostricization. And why scapegoat such an easy mark? Has he really succeeded in driving folks away? Shame on you for letting his actions control you like that!

I hate 'a' say it folks, but it wouldn't bother you if it weren't just a teensy bit true. No, it wouldn't! You'd all just dismiss him and scroll on by. Yes, he can be nasty and some of his oppinions are pretty objectionable, but golly, they're nothing compared to some of the very mainstream hate we've seen on this board. And not to get too fanboi sentimental on y'all--but gorram it!--PN obviously loves Firefly and Joss Whedon! He's a Browncoat whether you like it or not!

That said, I do like SoupCatcher's idea about posting links rather than filling up the threads with pictures our little site can barely handle. Some folks here still have dial-up and the really long, picture heavy threads can take. For. Ever. To load. So how's that for a compromise: y'all can take off your silly puritan garb, and PirateNews can post more links and fewer pictures and WALLSOFTEXT? How 'bout it, PirateNews?

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

CITIZEN

Friday, June 30, 2006 2:16 AM

I don't think there's even a teensy weensy bit of truth in me being an evil baby killing homosexual Nazi, thanks HK.

PN shouldn't be on these boards, he should be in a hospital where he can get the help he needs and not trying to get Jews and other people he's decided are evil murdered.

I find the idea we should tolerate the mad ravings of an insane psychotic fasicst in our midst objectionable.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
And as you know, these are open forums, you're able to come and listen to what I have to say.

HARDWARE

Friday, June 30, 2006 2:24 AM

Well thank goodness somebody else has seen the Glargon death fleet!

And there's finally a burning issue that I can stand shoulder to shoulder with Hero on.

Will wonders never cease? I don't know. But I wish PN would.

The more I get to know people the more I like my dogs.

HKCAVALIER

Friday, June 30, 2006 2:38 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by citizen:
I don't think there's even a teensy weensy bit of truth in me being an evil baby killing homosexual Nazi, thanks HK.

PN shouldn't be on these boards, he should be in a hospital where he can get the help he needs and not trying to get Jews and other people he's decided are evil murdered.

I find the idea we should tolerate the mad ravings of an insane psychotic fasicst in our midst objectionable.

But tolerate such folks is exactly what we need to do in a free society, ya big goof! Lest we become insane psychotic fascists in our zeal to quarentine insane psychotic fascists. God damn, people, PirateNews has got y'all by the tail!

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

SOUPCATCHER

Friday, June 30, 2006 6:39 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by HKCavalier:
But tolerate such folks is exactly what we need to do in a free society, ya big goof! Lest we become insane psychotic fascists in our zeal to quarentine insane psychotic fascists. God damn, people, PirateNews has got y'all by the tail!

HKCavalier

I hear what you're saying.

Let me try to articulate my peeve. It's like trying to have a conversation with someone while their kid is running circles around you, tugging on your sleeve, kicking your shin, asking you questions, and saying bad words just to get a reaction. Sure some of it might be cute, but it quickly loses its luster.

Maybe I'm misinterpreting PN's motivations for his long posts. What I see him doing is looking for a platform to spread his racist drivel. Racists, like telemarketers, use people's good nature to their advantage.

What I don't see him doing is looking to engage in a dialogue. He's delivering sermons. There's nothing wrong with that. But there's better ways to do it than to insert pages and pages of your sermon into each and every thread. Using the blog feature or quoting short excerpts and providing a link are both great alternatives.

If I wanted a sermon, I'd go to church (although I shudder to think about the congregation that would hire PN as it's pastor) If I wanted to read what PN thought about the British-Commie-aw crap I can't remember everyone involved-conspiracy, I'd go to his website. If I want to read what fireflyfans think about a particular Real World Event I come here.

I don't think PN should be banned. But I think SergeantX's original request is spot on. This is a community. One member of that community is engaging in behavior that detracts from the experience of other community members. A request to modify that behavior is perfectly legit. A demand to modify that behavior is not.

However, I think PN might see this as - rather than a diverse community with widely divergent view points - a fertile field to spread his manifesto and line up some recruits.

PIRATEJENNY

Friday, June 30, 2006 6:46 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SergeantX:
Not much to my request. PN, please give it a break, you've had more than your share of cheap attention. Not that it matters to you, but you've ruined RWE for me. Maybe that was your intention. I come here very seldom lately because any good stuff that does get posted is washed away below your constant waterfall of lurid junk.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

You guys really need to leave P.N alone for some who claim not to like his postings , they sure do be in his threads with something to say..I think you guys like P.N's post if you didn't you wouldn't constantly make him the focus of your topic. I defend his right to post, wether I agree with everything or not, it takes all types to make the world turn, thats what makes life interesting.

keep up the good work P.N I'm actually interested in what you have to say, and besides I like the effect you have on certain posters

Never give up ..Never surrender!!lol

CITIZEN

Friday, June 30, 2006 7:14 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by HKCavalier:
But tolerate such folks is exactly what we need to do in a free society, ya big goof! Lest we become insane psychotic fascists in our zeal to quarentine insane psychotic fascists. God damn, people, PirateNews has got y'all by the tail!

You're going too far, the logical conclusion to your argument is closing down mental health facilities and prisons, hey if the inmates murder someone their just expressing themselves and this is a free society after all.

There are limits even to freedom of speech, if someone is standing on the corner of a road screaming at everyone telling them Jews are evil and must die and threatening random passersby then frankly they have stepped over the line of what you can reasonably expect anyone to tolerate.

You're not advocating allowing PirateNews his right to free speech, he already has that on his website, you're advocating that in a free society we should all invite him round to tea.

Lest you forget while defending PirateNews's rights: we all have rights to you know.

CITIZEN

Friday, June 30, 2006 7:18 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by piratejenny:
Oh please you guys need to leave P.N alone for some who claim not to like his postings , they sure do be in his threads with something to say..I think you guys like P.N's post if you didn't you wouldn't constantly make him the focus of your topic

No we don't, he does it himself to massage his ego and have a soap box to extend his racist hate.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
And as you know, these are open forums, you're able to come and listen to what I have to say.

PIRATEJENNY

Friday, June 30, 2006 7:28 AM

Quote:
.No we don't, he does it himself to massage his ego and have a soap box to extend his racist hate.

you do have a point, has anyone ever asked P.N what he has against Jews and gays, I'm just wondering..

Some of the stuff P.N says makes me cringe, but at the same time the way he words it, its funny too.(the humor gets me) which takes the sting out it. for some reason and I know this is weird, but it doesn't really come off as mean spirted,even though its wrong, and he does seem to be genuinely concerned!! I tend to ignore the flaming and just look at the information that he's presenting.[l] which happens to be very informative and interesting despite what the naysayers an narrow minded think!!

c'mon you have to admit commie, Nazi jew is sort of like an oxymoron it just sounds funny!!.

Also I think thats a bunch of B.S about P.N keeping people away from the RWD...

Nobody is stopping anyone from voicing their opinion or starting threads..if they are staying away its not because of P.N and his post.

OLDENGLANDDRY

Friday, June 30, 2006 7:56 AM

We ask this question of him constantly and get the same ranting replies. Along with the same links, photos, etc.
There is a seed of truth in what he posts (after all, we all know that our respective governments are screwing us over), the objection of most people is the WAY he does it.
I have no great love for the state of Israel but that does'nt mean that all Jews are Satanic genocidal maniacs.
I have no great confidence in modern medicine but that does'nt mean that all doctors are trying to murder me.
Unfortunately this thread has given PN exactly what he wants from us: attention.
If he just posted a link and said "hey, this is interesting, go take a look" it would'nt get half the responses he does now.
Fait acompli.

PIRATEJENNY

Friday, June 30, 2006 8:07 AM

Quote:
There is a seed of truth in what he posts

I just have to state there is more then a seed of truth in the stuff that P.N post, actually there is alot of truth in some of the stuff he post, which is one of the main reasons why I like and enjoy his threads!!..I think this is what pisses some people off.

Quote:
objection of most people is the WAY he does it.

I have no great love for the state of Israel but that does'nt mean that all Jews are Satanic genocidal maniacs.
I have no great confidence in modern medicine but that does'nt mean that all doctors are trying to murder me.

I can only speak for myself, but I'm thinking thats why it's funny to me. his perspective on some things can be viewed by some as extreme, and some of his wording objectionable, its like what choice do you have except to find the humor in it. Sometimes I think P.N represents his post in that manner to give it a very dramatic feel. you know to make it colorful. Which is why I think some find his threads so irresistable even though they claim not to have an interest in what he's saying.

Its like a car crash, you don't want to look but you just can't help yourself.

( P.N just wants to get the info out there) I totally understand that and commend him for it. his intentions are honorable and good even if he isn't )

I find it very interesting!!, and entertaining and we need that because the world is crazy enough!!

HKCAVALIER

Friday, June 30, 2006 9:43 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by citizen:
Quote:
Originally posted by HKCavalier:
But tolerate such folks is exactly what we need to do in a free society, ya big goof! Lest we become insane psychotic fascists in our zeal to quarentine insane psychotic fascists. God damn, people, PirateNews has got y'all by the tail!
You're going too far, the logical conclusion to your argument is closing down mental health facilities and prisons, hey if the inmates murder someone their just expressing themselves and this is a free society after all.

There are limits even to freedom of speech, if someone is standing on the corner of a road screaming at everyone telling them Jews are evil and must die and threatening random passersby then frankly they have stepped over the line of what you can reasonably expect anyone to tolerate.

You're not advocating allowing PirateNews his right to free speech, he already has that on his website, you're advocating that in a free society we should all invite him round to tea.

Lest you forget while defending PirateNews's rights: we all have rights to you know.

Criminy, Citizen, this is a g.d. internet forum, any logic of my statement extends to this li'l cyber-community and no further. I'm not advocating anything about "mental health institutions" or "prison inmates." Don't you know me better than that by now? I'm simply advocating that we not tell somebody to shut up and go away, because that would reflect badly on us freedom-loving Firefly fans; our actions here, I think, oughta reflect our values and maybe even our best selves.

I consider this little sandbox a place to practice benevolence and personal integrity. It's easy to do that when the people we're dealing with have similar values to our own, it's harder when they don't. PirateNews harms you not at all and cannot and will not ever. Grab a little perspective, will ya? Trying to silence him makes you look small.

"Invite him round for tea?" Nothing of the kind. This here's a public internet forum. This ain't your house, and nobody's inviting anyone anywhere. What gives you more right to post here than PirateNews?

And why the heck you pickin' a fight with me, anyway, Citizen?

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

CHOO1701

Friday, June 30, 2006 9:51 AM

Hey PJ, are you and PN related in anyway shape or form? Just curious with the whole "Pirate..." name thing going on...

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"Remember, always be yourself. Unless you suck."-Joss Whedon

ITES RULE!!!!

AURAPTOR

Friday, June 30, 2006 12:03 PM

Quote:
I think this is what pisses some people off.

There's a view that if a post pisses folks off, it MUST be true. And often, that is the case. However, being inane, incoherent, absurd and over the top by posting a sack of llama crap of conspiracy nonsense ALSO tends to piss folks off.

If there's a way to ban PN or simply move his threads to Troll Country, I'm all for it.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Friday, June 30, 2006 12:41 PM

HK

Were he posting about his love of Firefly or Joss there would be no issue. Were he engaging in debate, again there would be no problem. However, his posts are full of hate and are only meant to incite.

I respect the right of the Ku Klux Klan to engage in free speech. Doesn't mean I have to go to the march and certainly doesn't mean I shouldn't do everything in my power to kick them out of my town.

Hate mongerers need not apply.

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Friday, June 30, 2006 12:57 PM

Buckaroo Banzai would kick PirateNews behind Hong Kong Cavalier.

Pirate News knows exactly what he is doing, as stated by someone else, he has his own website to spew this stuff. He doesn't need to do it here.

CITIZEN

Friday, June 30, 2006 1:13 PM

HK:
I'm not trying to pick a fight with you, but I take issue with the idea that we should treat PN better than he would ever consider treating anyone else at all times.

PN would be Hitler if he was in charge of a country; I have no doubt in my mind. PirateNews uses every trick in the fascist’s cookbook and talks just like the man when Hitler had lost his power. He's a dictator without a Dictatorship.

PN turns up in the thread and that's it, time to leave because the previous conversation is over, it's PN crazy time now. He adds nothing but hate and incitement in the real world is not tolerated with "well we have to allow all viewpoints" so why here? He’s ruining the site for many, largely on purpose, why must we tolerate that? PN’s rights are more important than everyone else’s because PN’s the only person not willing to compromise?

We send trolls to Troll country and PirateNews is, essentially a Troll. So why should we treat him better? What makes this Troll so special?

And that is why I have more right to post here than PirateNews, I post here inorder to interact with my friends, other intelligent people and generally contribute. I may play rough sometimes but it is not why I come here.

PirateNews on the other hand comes here to sow discord, he comes here to spread hate, he comes here to harm us, by driving posters away, making it impossible to carry on a discussion and leaving only those who will suck up to him behind. He wishes to destroy this forum and remake it into the "make PN feel like a bigshot" forum.

This isn't merely a freedom of speech issue, PirateNews is a sociopath, sociopaths are locked up when they act in a socipathic manner, PirateNews is acting in a sociopathic manner, our only recourse would be to remove him from this forum in the same way a criminal is removed from society. If it makes you feel better we can give him a sentence after which he can come back, and if he then re-offends we'll give him another sentence.

Treat others how you want to be treated, fair enough PNs shown us how he wants to be treated, perhaps we should oblige him.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
And as you know, these are open forums, you're able to come and listen to what I have to say.

SERGEANTX

Friday, June 30, 2006 1:22 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by HKCavalier:
I'm sorta kinda taken aback by the "will of the people" on this thread--reminds me of a past life I lived in Salem, Mass a couple hundred years ago. This is not the place for censorship and ostricization. And why scapegoat such an easy mark? Has he really succeeded in driving folks away? Shame on you for letting his actions control you like that!...

Hmmm, I'll always cheer for arguments against censorship. Apparently I misrepresented my intent. I'm just asking for a little common courtesy. If his posts were of reasonable length and frequency, and didn't load up my bandwidth with photos, I would have no complaint. I might even read them.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

HERO

Friday, June 30, 2006 1:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by piratejenny:
you do have a point, has anyone ever asked P.N what he has against Jews and gays, I'm just wondering..

I don't think we've ever really asked him. I would...but then he would answer and nobody wants that.

I suspect that several issues are involved but that they mostly boil down to his needing to blame a higher power for his lot in life. He is a failure or is mired in mediocracy and instead of taking personal responsibilty he sees a "grand conspiracy" to keep PirateNews from being the man he was born to be. And he probably has a small penis. I've seen it a million times...er...his type, not his small penis. Jews, the Man, illegals, gays, the rich, the CIA, all scapegoats for personal disappointment or percieved injustice. Medication can help...

Edited to add: Or maybe they really are all out to get him (literally just him)...wouldn't that be ironical? The ICAPN (International Conspiracy Against PirateNews an organization headed by Queen Elizabeth and her gay-jewish-nazi minions, even I'd sign up, just to get the newsletter).

H

RUE

Friday, June 30, 2006 3:13 PM

After all this discussion of PN I feel I should read his stuff. And if I did, I'd probably take exception to what by all accounts is hate speech. But I've already tried, really tried, and I just can't get past the first few sentences.

Scroll, scroll, scroll your mouse,
gently down the screen.
Merrily, merrily, merrily merrily,
Pirate's unheard scream.

I believe PN has been significantly screwed over. And that he lacks the tools to figure out who and how. That's why he finds conspiracies everywhere. And there's probably a psychologocal component. You don't have to be actively hallucinating to be psychologically disabled. OCD and age-onset paranoia immediately come to mind as two examples. Even though they are 'merely' thought disorders, they are still disorders.

I've mentioned to PN that I'd like to hear his story, but so far he hasn't come forward.

Anyway, b/c of what seems to be hate speech, and his site-disabling posts, he probably should be isolated in troll country.

CHRISISALL

Friday, June 30, 2006 3:40 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by HKCavalier:
Trying to silence him makes you look small.

I think it's the anti-Jew rants that put me off, anything meaningful or funny just goes out the window for me when he starts on that.
Then there's the anti-gay stuff.

Sorry, it's not easy for me to tolerate intolerance.

The Incredible Shrinking Chrisisall

SHADOWFLY

Friday, June 30, 2006 3:54 PM

Seems the high and mighty here have decided to jump on the weak-minded to justify their own issues when we all know that deep down inside they are just as bigoted and confused.

CITIZEN

Friday, June 30, 2006 4:03 PM

Yes ShadowFly, but we'll try not to judge you for it.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
And as you know, these are open forums, you're able to come and listen to what I have to say.

HKCAVALIER

Friday, June 30, 2006 4:05 PM

Heya Chris!

Hey, I'm really perplexed about something and you're just the man to set me straight! Chris, what draws you in? What compels you to read him past the first few lines? We all of us internet habituees learn to filter garbage and move on--what is it about PN's rants that won't let you do that? If what he writes is garbage, what makes it such interesting garbage? What is it about this profoundly disempowered individual that makes really sensible people like you and Citizen grant him soooooo much power?

And on a totally unrelated tangent: how does one private message someone on this board? Some posts I've read recently imply that such is possible and I have long wanted to correspond with the likes of you and Rue and SignyM more directly than this board affords. You know, how's Mrs. Isall and all the little Isalls doing these days?

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

MAVOURNEEN

Friday, June 30, 2006 4:19 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by HKCavalier:

And on a totally unrelated tangent: how does one private message someone on this board? Some posts I've read recently imply that such is possible and I have long wanted to correspond with the likes of you and Rue and SignyM more directly than this board affords. You know, how's Mrs. Isall and all the little Isalls doing these days?

HKCavalier

Go to the person's profile page and on the left hand side of the screen you'll see a little area to send them a message. Your message will be sent to the email account they used to sign up to this board. Easy Peasy!

PS- I agree with you on filtering garbage. I don't even bother to read it.
-Maura

"Have you ever been with a Warrior Woman?"

SOUPCATCHER

Friday, June 30, 2006 4:48 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Mavourneen:
Go to the person's profile page and on the left hand side of the screen you'll see a little area to send them a message. Your message will be sent to the email account they used to sign up to this board. Easy Peasy!

Your mileage may vary. I haven't been getting any e-mail notifications from this site in quite a while.

Another option would be to post a blog entry and then communicate back and forth through the comments to the blog. Not very private, but a little more private than a thread.

Other than posting your main e-mail address, you could always create a throw-away e-mail address in yahoo just so people could send you their e-mail addresses. A cut-out, so to speak.

CHRISISALL

Friday, June 30, 2006 6:53 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by ShadowFLY:
Seems the high and mighty here have decided to jump on the weak-minded to justify their own issues when we all know that deep down inside they are just as bigoted and confused.

Am I high and mighty?
Hmmm...
You might have to pay me taxes, ShadowFLY. (How much is Batman Returns on DVD...?)
I demand $23.99 in taxes RIGHT NOW peasant!
Wait, is that the right thing to do if I'm high and mighty? I'm suddenly confused...
Hey! It seems from your post that you're of Irish descent...I HATE IRISH, JOCK! I HATE 'EM!

Wow, S., you nailed me.

Kidding Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Friday, June 30, 2006 7:12 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by HKCavalier:

Chris, what draws you in? What compels you to read him past the first few lines? We all of us internet habituees learn to filter garbage and move on--what is it about PN's rants that won't let you do that?

*grins sheepishly*
Really...nothing....
I always zip past practically all of it. Being a conspiracy fan myself, there's nothing he posts (W/the noteable exception of the White House sex parties stuff) that I haven't either heard of or know about. Much of it is actually true, but it's his endless and sometimes bigoted presentation that puts the nail in. His power for me is only the amount of time it takes me to scroll (and scroll).
I've seen him post succinct and interesting at times, even right here, but it's few and far between, and he seems most at ease baiting folk.
Too bad.

Chrisisall

SHADOWFLY

Friday, June 30, 2006 8:06 PM

The high and mighty speaks.

CHRISISALL

Friday, June 30, 2006 8:13 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by ShadowFLY:
The high and mighty speaks.

Yeah, and I want that tax NOW!!!
$23.99, pal. In non-sequential pennies please.

Mean to the weak-minded Chrisisall

RUE

Friday, June 30, 2006 8:57 PM

Shadowfly,

Dude, your fly is open.

OLDENGLANDDRY

Friday, June 30, 2006 9:19 PM

Does his website have a forum?
If so lets all go there and post repetitively just to see how he likes it. Who knows, we might even crash his sight, HURRAH.

OLDENGLANDDRY

Friday, June 30, 2006 9:43 PM

www.murderresearch.com

PDCHARLES

Friday, June 30, 2006 10:25 PM

Are some of us forgetting Sgt. X said PLEASE!?!

Hmmm... Hmmm...

It's like some free software/website's ad banner. It is annoying as hell, but you'll live if that the way it HAS to be. But, I see nothing wrong with requesting to have it removed.

Now, if that ad banner contained bigotry and was non-responsive, it would be more annoying and prolly very offensive to some. ...and could possibly drive others away from the site/software.

PIRATEJENNY

Saturday, July 1, 2006 8:33 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Choo1701:
Hey PJ, are you and PN related in anyway shape or form? Just curious with the whole "Pirate..." name thing going on...

-----------------------------
"Remember, always be yourself. Unless you suck."-Joss Whedon

ITES RULE!!!!

I happen to care about alot of things that aren't exactly mainstream news, alot of the stuff thats happening and whats behind it that isn't talked about. I'm very out spoken on certain topics and I don't mince my words, I think thats were the comparison with P.N comes from, that and our names and we agree on alot of stuff. and for it we've both been labeled by the short sighted, and narrow of mind as crazy. I personally find it funny and amusing!!

I took my alias from Piratejenny in the Three Penny Opera I've always had a fondness for pirates.

PIRATEJENNY

Saturday, July 1, 2006 8:40 AM

Quote:
.PN turns up in the thread and that's it, time to leave because the previous conversation is over, it's PN crazy time now.

No, no, and no, your acting as if P.N has some magic power, if you really feel that way about it, you have a duty to ignore his post... the conversation in a thread isn't over because P.N post in it, its because you choose to focus on him and not the topic..

PIRATEJENNY

Saturday, July 1, 2006 9:18 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:
I think this is what pisses some people off.

There's a view that if a post pisses folks off, it MUST be true. And often, that is the case. However, being inane, incoherent, absurd and over the top by posting a sack of llama crap of conspiracy nonsense ALSO tends to piss folks off.

If there's a way to ban PN or simply move his threads to Troll Country, I'm all for it.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

AURaptor, you think everything that you don't agree with is crap!!

CITIZEN

Saturday, July 1, 2006 10:30 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by piratejenny:
No, no, and no, your acting as if P.N has some magic power, if you really feel that way about it, you have a duty to ignore his post... the conversation in a thread isn't over because P.N post in it, its because you choose to focus on him and not the topic..

No it's over because when he chooses to shut down a thread he'll make it nigh impossible to read any post but his by filling the thread and bandwidth with his inane racist crap and personal insults. He's spam, you don't choose it, you can try to ignore it, but the sheer volume makes it impossible.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

SHADOWFLY

Saturday, July 1, 2006 5:13 PM

Pay him no mind Piratejenny. He would be out of his depth in a car park puddle.

CITIZEN

Saturday, July 1, 2006 5:28 PM

Translation:
I don't understand what Citizen just wrote, so it must be dumb, now back to my crayoning.

How's your brother SimoN5420?

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

CHOO1701

Saturday, July 1, 2006 5:41 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by piratejenny:
Quote:
Originally posted by Choo1701:
Hey PJ, are you and PN related in anyway shape or form? Just curious with the whole "Pirate..." name thing going on...

I happen to care about alot of things that aren't exactly mainstream news, alot of the stuff thats happening and whats behind it that isn't talked about. I'm very out spoken on certain topics and I don't mince my words, I think thats were the comparison with P.N comes from, that and our names and we agree on alot of stuff. and for it we've both been labeled by the short sighted, and narrow of mind as crazy. I personally find it funny and amusing!!

I took my alias from Piratejenny in the Three Penny Opera I've always had a fondness for pirates.

thanks for clearing that up

and gotta rrmeber: once in a while everyone is labelled as crazy.

-----------------------------
"Remember, always be yourself. Unless you suck."-Joss Whedon

ITES RULE!!!!

AURAPTOR

Saturday, July 1, 2006 7:29 PM

Quote:
AURaptor, you think everything that you don't agree with is crap!!

Umm..yeah. Because it is? Or else I'd not think it's crap. Basically, if it dosn't pass the b.s test, it's crap.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

SHADOWFLY

Saturday, July 1, 2006 7:54 PM

Ignore them Piratejenny. When he opens his mouth, it seems that this is only to change whichever foot was previously in there.

OLDENGLANDDRY

Saturday, July 1, 2006 8:22 PM

Everyone bickering amongst themselves as usual.
PN must be having belly laughs.

AURAPTOR

Saturday, July 1, 2006 8:44 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by ShadowFLY:
Ignore them Piratejenny. When he opens his mouth, it seems that this is only to change whichever foot was previously in there.

Care to be a bit less vague as to who it is you're talking about ?

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

PIRATEJENNY

Sunday, July 2, 2006 1:19 AM

Rue Wrote:

Quote:
I believe PN has been significantly screwed over. And that he lacks the tools to figure out who and how. That's why he finds conspiracies everywhere. And there's probably a psychologocal component. You don't have to be actively hallucinating to be psychologically disabled. OCD and age-onset paranoia immediately come to mind as two examples. Even though they are 'merely' thought disorders, they are still disorders.

I think you are reading way to much into it, are these opinons coming from the fact that P.N believes what he post, because if thats what its based off, then I don't think this assesment is fair..because alot of the stuff he post there is a great deal of truth to it, I'm not talking about all the commie Nazi..jew stuff..but just because they are conspiracy theories doesn't mean they aren't true. Whats presented to many of us on a day to day basis is not the true reality of the situation..maybe he's just looking for the truth, most people I've learned aren't looking for he truth and don't even really want to know what it is. I can defintely understand why P.N turns some people off, but the way in which some people try to completely write him off or chulk it up to paranoia and mental problems I think is going a bit to far.None of us know P.N in the real world, I think and I could be wrong, but I think P.N is overloaded with to much information about some pretty screwed up stuff and this is his way of dealing with it.JMO

RUE

Sunday, July 2, 2006 3:53 AM

I must not have explained myself well.

I completely agree there are powerful conspiracies and that they flatten people without even noticing. But they're not from ancient secret societies.

That PN is searching for a source of pain indicates to me he's been hurt. That he is looking to those occult societies indicates to me he is confused. That he is fixated on them indicates some psychological difficulty. That's all I meant.

PIRATENEWS

Sunday, July 2, 2006 4:29 AM

Bush Gang, Bill Clinton-Blythe III and the Rockefellers worshipping Molech/Lucifer/Satan at Bohemian Grove in Monte Rio, California on July 15. Photo copyright Bohemian Club annual yearbook
www.lonelantern.org/bohemian_grove.html

Repeat after me:

Quote:

"This photo is a figment of my imagination. I am insane."

Bush Gang and Bill Clinton-Blythe Rockefeller performing "mock" human sacrifice to 50-foot tall idol of Molech/Lucifer/Satan at Bohemian Grove. Photo copyright Bohemian Club annual yearbook
www.43places.com/places/view/379646

Quote:

VIDEO DOWNLOAD: Dark Secrets Inside Bohemian Grove
Original full-length version - Infiltration of Jewish Bohemian Grove presidential compound and homosexual nudist colony that performs "mock" human sacrifice to 50-foot-tall idol of Molech - Where Bush Gang and Bill Clinton-Blythe III (Rockefeller) vacation every year to worship Satan and run nekked in the woods with 3,000 homosexual world dictators - Undercover video by Infowars.com
www.archive.org/details/DSIBG
www.infowars.com/bg1.html

VIDEO DOWNLOAD: Dark Secrets Inside Bohemian Grove and The Order of Death
Two documentaries in one - An employee of Bohemian Grove presidential compound used undercover video to capture the 50-foot-tall idol of Molech and "mock" human sacrifice up close and in broad daylight - Undercover video by Infowars.com
www.lastingnetworks.com/alex/

VIDEO DOWNLOAD: Boners at Bohemian Grove
Music video by Counter Coup and John Lee
http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2005/09/6737.php

VIDEO DOWNLOAD: Snuff kiddie porn at Bohemian Grove
Alex Jones of Infowars.com interviews Senator John DeCamp author of The Franklin Coverup, music by Counter Coup and Bohemian Club
http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2005/09/6737.php

Moloch.
an ancient Phoenician and Ammonite god, to whom children were sacrificed by burning.
-Webster's New World Dictionary

"And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Again, thou shalt say to the children of Israel, Whosoever he be of the children of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn in Israel, that giveth any of his seed unto Molech; he shall surely be put to death: the people of the land shall stone him with stones. And I will set my face against that man, and will cut him off from among his people; because he hath given of his seed unto Molech, to defile my sanctuary, and to profane my holy name. And if the people of the land do any ways hide their eyes from the man, when he giveth of his seed unto Molech, and kill him not: Then I will set my face against that man, and against his family, and will cut him off, and all that go a whoring after him, to commit whoredom with Molech, from among their people."
-Leviticus 20:1-5, Christian Bible KJV

"And Solomon did evil in the sight of the LORD, and went not fully after the LORD, as did David his father. Then did Solomon build an high place for Chemosh, the abomination of Moab, in the hill that is before Jerusalem, and for Molech, the abomination of the children of Ammon."
-1 Kings 11:6-7, Christian Bible KJV

"Because of all the evil of the children of Israel and of the children of Judah, which they have done to provoke me to anger, they, their kings, their princes, their priests, and their prophets, and the men of Judah, and the inhabitants of Jerusalem. And they have turned unto me the back, and not the face: though I taught them, rising up early and teaching them, yet they have not hearkened to receive instruction. But they set their abominations in the house, which is called by my name, to defile it. And they built the high places of Baal, which are in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire unto Molech; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin."
-Jeremiah 32:32-35, Christian Bible KJV

"And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fi

SHADOWFLY

Sunday, July 2, 2006 4:42 AM

Piratenews, do you have thoughts regarding the things that people in this thread have said about you? Seems to me you say what you want and most folks who make impressive noises about free speech have a problem with you’re over abundance of information/misinformation.

MAMASAID

Sunday, July 2, 2006 5:18 AM

arrrrrr....could PN (or could Pirate Jenny, who seems to be able to maybe communicate with him) please stop with the EFFING LONG POSTS???? I agree that there needs to be freedom of speech. Sometimes PN goes to far with the jew hating, but let's all make a concerted effort to COMPLETELY IGNORE HIM.

Again, I implore PN, please make your posts shorter!!! Some people's computers (mine was bought in 1998, for Chrissake) cannot take the overload!!!

MAMASAID

Sunday, July 2, 2006 5:20 AM

Oh, and Pirate Jenny, the problem with PN over you is the dressing he puts on his ideas. I would be curious to know with what theories of his you agree or other political-ish theories you have, as I don't dismiss things outright. But he may have a sirloin steak of a truthful idea but he slathers it in diarrhea and vomit dressing: no one will eat it.

PIRATENEWS

Sunday, July 2, 2006 6:52 AM

Jews cooking their kids in Jerusalem as per Leviticus, Torah and Quran

Quote:

John DeCamp: Paul Bonacci writing this. This is directly word for word from his diary:

Bonacci kidnapped Gosch/Gannon
www.johnnygosch.com

"I went in January of 84' on every trip. I was paid by men King knew for sex. The summer of 84' sometime I was (?) and had sex with several men King knew in a hotel. I flew on (YNR) airlines, by the way it's a private airline or private charter deal and Cam airlines, another charter deal normally for King. I never had much personally to do with King only went where he told me to go.

In or on July 26th (during Bohemian Grove), I went to Sacramento, CA. King flew me out in a private plane from (Eplick) airfield in Omaha to Denver where we picked up Nicholas. A boy who was about 12 or 13 then we flew to Vegas to a desert strip and drove into Las Vegas to some ranch and got something (illegal narcotics shipment).

Then flew onto to Sacramento. We were picked up by a white limo and taken to a hotel. I don't remember the name of it. We meaning, Nicholas and I, were driven to an area that had big, big trees (Bohemian Grove). It took about an hour to get there.

There was a cage with a boy in it who was not wearing anything. Nicholas and I were given these tarzan things to put around us and stuff like that. They told me to, I won't use the word, blank the boy and stuff. In other words have sex with.

At first I said No and they held a gun to my genitals I'll use the word and said do it or else lose them or something like that. I began doing it to the boy and stuff. And Nicholas had anal sex with him and stuff. We were told to blank him and stuff and beat on him. I didn't try to hurt him. We were told to put our blanks in his mouth and stuff and sit on the boys blank and stuff and they filmed it.

We did this stuff to the boy for about 30 minutes or an hour when a man came in and kicked us and stuff and in the genitals. And picked us up and threw us. He grabbed the boy and started blanking him and stuff. The man was about, I'm not sure how to say, the man was about so many inches long and the boy screamed and stuff. The man was forcing his blank into the boy all the way. The boy was bleeding from his rectum and the men tossed me and him and stuff and put the boy right next to me and grabbed a gun and blew the boy's head off.

The boy's blood was all over me and I started yelling and crying and the men grabbed Nicholas and I forced us to lie down. They put the boy on top of Nicholas who was crying and they were putting Nicholas's hands on the boys blank. They put the boy on top of me and did the same thing . They then forced me to blank the kid. It's pretty crude. They put a gun to our heads to make us do it. His blood was all over us. They made us kiss the boys lips. Anyway, a few other things. Then they made me do something I don't even want to write so I won't (cannibalism).

After that the men grabbed Nicholas and dragged him off screaming. They put me up against a tree and put a gun to my head but fired into the air. I heard another shot from somewhere and then saw the man who killed the boy drag him like a toy.

Everything including when the men put the boy in the trunk was filmed [by Hunter Thompson from Las Vegas].

The men took me with them and we went up in a plane. I saw the bag the boy was in. We went over a very thick brush area with a clearing in it. Over the clearing they dropped the boy. One said the man with the hood would take care of the body for them.

I didn't see Nicholas until that night at the hotel. He and I hugged and held each other for a long while. About 2 hours later then men or Larry King came in and told us to go take a shower since we'd had only been hosed off at some guys house. We took a shower together and were told to put on the tarazan things and after we were cleaned up and dressed in these things we were told to put on shorts, socks and a shirt and shoes a

PIRATEJENNY

Sunday, July 2, 2006 7:31 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
I must not have explained myself well.

I completely agree there are powerful conspiracies and that they flatten people without even noticing. But they're not from ancient secret societies.

That PN is searching for a source of pain indicates to me he's been hurt. That he is looking to those occult societies indicates to me he is confused. That he is fixated on them indicates some psychological difficulty. That's all I meant.

but most secret socities do have ancient ties, anyone whoes ever done any real research into secret societies know this...

I'm not a doctor and I haven't evaluated P.N so I can't make those judgments against him.

As for the Bohemian Grove stuff, its true!!

Do your research look into the history of Molech, then do your research on Bohemian Grove.

most of the elite powerful old money wealthy, and royals belong to secret socities, the newly wealthy and influential are also courted into these various societies and orders around the world, its these same people who shape the world and make policies, and the majority of all Secret Socities have histories and orders going back since ancient times.

its easy to shoot the messenger, but it doesn't mean you have to shoot the message!!

PHOENIXROSE

Sunday, July 2, 2006 7:50 AM

*sigh* Why do we give him attention?
I suggest we give him this response on a regular basis:

And maybe he'll go away. Maybe.

**********************************

RUE

Sunday, July 2, 2006 8:46 AM

If you grew up in the 70's the group de jour was the Trilateral Commission. Now it's the Carlyle Group. The wealthy and powerful have to have a mechanism to coordinate as a group. (They understand themselves to be a group with common interest.)

But I believe the actual functional groups are not based on arcane cabalistic sects. They are based on who is invited to Davos and gets there on their own private jets. Who runs not businesses but economies. They pretty much know each other because they all go to the same birthday parties in London , the same functions in Paris, the same private economic meetings in the Carribean.

OLDENGLANDDRY

Sunday, July 2, 2006 9:20 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by piratenews:

Jews cooking their kids in Jerusalem as per Leviticus, Torah and Quran

Quote:

John DeCamp: Paul Bonacci writing this. This is directly word for word from his diary:

Bonacci kidnapped Gosch/Gannon
www.johnnygosch.com

"I went in January of 84' on every trip. I was paid by men King knew for sex. The summer of 84' sometime I was (?) and had sex with several men King knew in a hotel. I flew on (YNR) airlines, by the way it's a private airline or private charter deal and Cam airlines, another charter deal normally for King. I never had much personally to do with King only went where he told me to go.

In or on July 26th (during Bohemian Grove), I went to Sacramento, CA. King flew me out in a private plane from (Eplick) airfield in Omaha to Denver where we picked up Nicholas. A boy who was about 12 or 13 then we flew to Vegas to a desert strip and drove into Las Vegas to some ranch and got something (illegal narcotics shipment).

Then flew onto to Sacramento. We were picked up by a white limo and taken to a hotel. I don't remember the name of it. We meaning, Nicholas and I, were driven to an area that had big, big trees (Bohemian Grove). It took about an hour to get there.

There was a cage with a boy in it who was not wearing anything. Nicholas and I were given these tarzan things to put around us and stuff like that. They told me to, I won't use the word, blank the boy and stuff. In other words have sex with.

At first I said No and they held a gun to my genitals I'll use the word and said do it or else lose them or something like that. I began doing it to the boy and stuff. And Nicholas had anal sex with him and stuff. We were told to blank him and stuff and beat on him. I didn't try to hurt him. We were told to put our blanks in his mouth and stuff and sit on the boys blank and stuff and they filmed it.

We did this stuff to the boy for about 30 minutes or an hour when a man came in and kicked us and stuff and in the genitals. And picked us up and threw us. He grabbed the boy and started blanking him and stuff. The man was about, I'm not sure how to say, the man was about so many inches long and the boy screamed and stuff. The man was forcing his blank into the boy all the way. The boy was bleeding from his rectum and the men tossed me and him and stuff and put the boy right next to me and grabbed a gun and blew the boy's head off.

The boy's blood was all over me and I started yelling and crying and the men grabbed Nicholas and I forced us to lie down. They put the boy on top of Nicholas who was crying and they were putting Nicholas's hands on the boys blank. They put the boy on top of me and did the same thing . They then forced me to blank the kid. It's pretty crude. They put a gun to our heads to make us do it. His blood was all over us. They made us kiss the boys lips. Anyway, a few other things. Then they made me do something I don't even want to write so I won't (cannibalism).

After that the men grabbed Nicholas and dragged him off screaming. They put me up against a tree and put a gun to my head but fired into the air. I heard another shot from somewhere and then saw the man who killed the boy drag him like a toy.

Everything including when the men put the boy in the trunk was filmed [by Hunter Thompson from Las Vegas].

The men took me with them and we went up in a plane. I saw the bag the boy was in. We went over a very thick brush area with a clearing in it. Over the clearing they dropped the boy. One said the man with the hood would take care of the body for them.

I didn't see Nicholas until that night at the hotel. He and I hugged and held each other for a long while. About 2 hours later then men or Larry King came in and told us to go take a shower since we'd had only been hosed off at some guys house. We took a shower together and were told to put on the tarazan things and after we were cleaned up and dressed in these things we were told to

RUE

Sunday, July 2, 2006 10:02 AM

The problem with PNs posts is there are too many disparate claims that don't fit together. The links are outdated and have been superceded by better information. Some claims could be easily and cheaply answered (Gosch/Guckert DNA testing for $400) but haven't been. Finally, some of the links directly contradict the points he is trying to make.

The rich and powerful have the means to indulge in perversion. But that is not the glue that holds them together. It is their common interest in keeping the world the same so they collectively stay on top, IMHO.

PHOENIXROSE

Sunday, July 2, 2006 10:28 AM

Or here's another idea; we could enlist Team Random to highjack each and every thread that was too long and rambling; they're basically random anyway. It would fit.

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CITIZEN

Sunday, July 2, 2006 12:07 PM

The problem with PN is that he is coming to a place for public debate, a thing he is completely uninterested in, using freedom of speech as a shield to allow him to attempt to take other peoples rights of freedom of speech away.

These are forums, not blogs, hey I'll back down a bit and I’ll compromise something I doubt PN is either capable of or would be prepared to do:

PN can engage in debate here, and post long streams of nonsense that he actively forbids anyone to argue against in his blog.

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Or here's another idea; we could enlist Team Random to highjack each and every thread that was too long and rambling; they're basically random anyway. It would fit.

That sounds like a fun plan. See how he likes his threads being hijacked with random gibberish.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

SHADOWFLY

Sunday, July 2, 2006 12:31 PM

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Originally posted by mamasaid:
arrrrrr....could PN (or could Pirate Jenny, who seems to be able to maybe communicate with him) please stop with the EFFING LONG POSTS???? I agree that there needs to be freedom of speech. Sometimes PN goes to far with the jew hating, but let's all make a concerted effort to COMPLETELY IGNORE HIM.

Again, I implore PN, please make your posts shorter!!! Some people's computers (mine was bought in 1998, for Chrissake) cannot take the overload!!!

Maybe PN and Pjenny are one and the same?

CHOO1701

Sunday, July 2, 2006 3:53 PM

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Originally posted by Choo1701:
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Originally posted by piratejenny:
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Originally posted by Choo1701:
Hey PJ, are you and PN related in anyway shape or form? Just curious with the whole "Pirate..." name thing going on...

I happen to care about alot of things that aren't exactly mainstream news, alot of the stuff thats happening and whats behind it that isn't talked about. I'm very out spoken on certain topics and I don't mince my words, I think thats were the comparison with P.N comes from, that and our names and we agree on alot of stuff. and for it we've both been labeled by the short sighted, and narrow of mind as crazy. I personally find it funny and amusing!!

I took my alias from Piratejenny in the Three Penny Opera I've always had a fondness for pirates.

thats already been cleared up ShadowFly

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maybe if we ignore him and NO ONE posts in the topics, he'll go away?

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ITES RULE!!!!

BROOKLYNBROWNCOAT

Sunday, July 2, 2006 4:10 PM

gorram it, we thought we had issues.....

http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=15&t=21727

SIGNYM

Sunday, July 2, 2006 6:58 PM

Ruxton- July 1 has come and gone. What was your prediction?

Deepgirl- Aside from PN who else bugs you? I really don't see much total nonsense here, so I'm curious.

SargeX- Come back! We miss you!

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SIGNYM

Sunday, July 2, 2006 7:15 PM

Just a comment on the durability of ancient brotherhoods... How come we're not discussing the Brotherhood of Ba'al, or the Huiracochan Society, or the Sisters of Anubis? What makes us think that the Opus Dei, the Freemasons, the Knights Templar (or even the Knights of Columbus) continue in anything other than a ceremonial fashion? Wouldn't they need a fair bit of money to do whatever it is they're supposed to be doing?

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Don't piss in my face and tell me it's raining.

RUE

Sunday, July 2, 2006 7:51 PM

Hey Citizen,

What I can't figure out is why PN just doesn't get diverted to troll country. It is a computer thing?

LOOOOOoong rambling random posts to PNs threads sounds fair. But who is Team Random?

Behind the curve ....

CANTTAKESKY

Sunday, July 2, 2006 8:05 PM

PirateNews will just as soon acquiesce with less verbage and pictures as say, "Really, I have never seen it that way before. I stand corrected."

Perhaps someone can take this issue to Haken, and ask him to disable posting images directly on this board (RWE). We can scroll and ignore long texts and tangential links, but it is VERY hard logistically to ignore loading pictures. Loading time is getting to be a problem that goes beyond righteous indignation. And PirateNews doesn't post those pics just once, but over and over again.

Anyone know Haken well enough to speak to him?

Can't Take My Gorram Sky

RUE

Sunday, July 2, 2006 8:08 PM

The other thing we could do is set a date and do a DOS (denial of service) attack on PN's website ... Though if he has a visitor counter going it might be just be more fuel.

OLDENGLANDDRY

Sunday, July 2, 2006 8:24 PM

How does a DOS work?
I like the sound of it.

CITIZEN

Sunday, July 2, 2006 9:06 PM

Team Random are those that post on the Random Threads (previously the Serenity2 threads) I'm a fully paid up member and I have the mug to prove it:
http://www.twisted-imaginings.com/Share/mug.JPG

CITIZEN

Sunday, July 2, 2006 9:07 PM

DOS attacks:
http://www.thetechdictionary.com/term/denial_of_service_attack_(dos)?g
clid=COPFnvP584UCFRBOQgod7lmzuA

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

PIRATEJENNY

Monday, July 3, 2006 6:51 AM

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Originally posted by rue:
If you grew up in the 70's the group de jour was the Trilateral Commission. Now it's the Carlyle Group. The wealthy and powerful have to have a mechanism to coordinate as a group. (They understand themselves to be a group with common interest.)

But I believe the actual functional groups are not based on arcane cabalistic sects. They are based on who is invited to Davos and gets there on their own private jets. Who runs not businesses but economies. They pretty much know each other because they all go to the same birthday parties in London , the same functions in Paris, the same private economic meetings in the Carribean.

Yes I know about the Trilateral commission and the Carlyle Group, thats part of it. but its alot more extensive then that. There are many secret socities or branches and off-shoots that all have there histories and rituals that go back since ancient times. It doesn't matter what country or culture they are apart of either.

PIRATEJENNY

Thursday, July 6, 2006 4:11 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
The problem with PNs posts is there are too many disparate claims that don't fit together. The links are outdated and have been superceded by better information. Some claims could be easily and cheaply answered (Gosch/Guckert DNA testing for $400) but haven't been. Finally, some of the links directly contradict the points he is trying to make.

The rich and powerful have the means to indulge in perversion. But that is not the glue that holds them together. It is their common interest in keeping the world the same so they collectively stay on top, IMHO.

I understand what your saying, as for Gosch?Gannon, No D.N.A test is going to be done period, and even if one was done there is no way to trust it. results can be faked just like anything else. so the testing is a none issue at least for me, proof that Gannon is Gosch is going to have to come about some other way... if in fact that is the case.. which it maybe!!

All rich people are not part of the elite nor do all belong to secret socities, so no that is not the glue that holds them together, but there is a network of old money familes crossing all cultral lines that makeup the core group of people and institutions who really have the power, you don't really seem to be interested in this subject so I won't continue to bore you with this topic, but if you were all I could tell you is to do your research.

GUYWHOWANTSAFIREFLYOFHISOWN

Thursday, July 6, 2006 4:20 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by piratejenny:
Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
If you grew up in the 70's the group de jour was the Trilateral Commission. Now it's the Carlyle Group. The wealthy and powerful have to have a mechanism to coordinate as a group. (They understand themselves to be a group with common interest.)

But I believe the actual functional groups are not based on arcane cabalistic sects. They are based on who is invited to Davos and gets there on their own private jets. Who runs not businesses but economies. They pretty much know each other because they all go to the same birthday parties in London , the same functions in Paris, the same private economic meetings in the Carribean.

Yes I know about the Trilateral commission and the Carlyle Group, thats part of it. but its alot more extensive then that. There are many secret socities or branches and off-shoots that all have there histories and rituals that go back since ancient times. It doesn't matter what country or culture they are apart of either.

like the order of the skull and bones

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/llama.php
-try it out, I dare you

98% of teens have smoked pot, if you are one of the 2% that haven't, copy this into your signature

I'm so into Firefly, my butt glows in the dark.

SIGNYM

Thursday, July 6, 2006 5:07 AM

Just a couple of comments: At the same time that groups coordinate their activities and "game" the system, they also compete with each other. Halliburton makes tons o'bucks in times of war, but Nike- not so much. It's a mistake to think that all coporations have identical interests.

Also, at some point in back history the old "secret societies" were cut down by the sheer fact that the nature of wealth changed from land (under feudalism) to money (under capitalism). There were many noble families that wound up trying to marry into the "new money" (merchants and "shopkeepers") because their wealth meant nothing in the new economy. So similarly I think it's a mistake to try and trace the new secret societies back to fuedal times.

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MAL4PREZ

Saturday, October 2, 2010 10:16 PM

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Originally posted by SergeantX:
Not much to my request. PN, please give it a break, you've had more than your share of cheap attention. Not that it matters to you, but you've ruined RWE for me. Maybe that was your intention. I come here very seldom lately because any good stuff that does get posted is washed away below your constant waterfall of lurid junk.

Who the fuck put a nickel in PN this weekend?

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NIKI2

Saturday, October 2, 2010 10:26 PM

Only takes a penny. I'm sad to see he's been trolling and irritating people since 2006. Some people have no life, so they foist that fact upon others. Nothing anyone can do about it.

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

PIRATENEWS

Sunday, October 3, 2010 10:28 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Niki2:

Only takes a penny. I'm sad to see he's been trolling and irritating people since 2006. Some people have no life, so they foist that fact upon others. Nothing anyone can do about it.

Funny how an Operative of the Jew World Odor finds time to post on FFF while scooping British oil out of the Gulf of Mexico, and infiltraiting Liberal groups with old lesbian sex...

KANEMAN

Sunday, October 3, 2010 3:17 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Niki2:
Only takes a penny. I'm sad to see he's been trolling and irritating people since 2006. Some people have no life, so they foist that fact upon others. Nothing anyone can do about it.

Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off

No life? How many pelicans died or marsh grasses never got planted, for you to go back three years to write this? You are pathetic. Now go clean something bitch. Maybe you should start with your nasty ass hair.

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