Male and Female Imponderables--Friends, Romans, Countrymen...
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The Imponderables thread continues. Never thought it would go this far. Thank you everyone for posting so far, and I hope we all keep it up!
Last thread for reference:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=22050&m=334016#334016
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PR...blade fetish? I can help there...
Just took these a few nights ago...there are a whole bunch missing, but this is the "stock" we used for our Ren Faires...
-EDIT- Because the full-size photo was too big. If you want to see them all, let me know, they are in my photobucket account.
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That one to the far right against the wall is very drool. Most are drool, but that one is very drool... 
*edit* I saw 'em before you shrunk it. T'weren't too big for me! 
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nothing like cold steel to heat up the day is the PR? :)
Dayve- I don't want or need the guy to use them, just to be able to use them. Big fan of target shooting and the like. Not hugely fond of killing, but like you I support the military not the least of which is because the majority of the guys I grew up with are in one branch or another.
Guys if you want my recipies I'll be happy to pass them along:) and if you want me to cook for you..Just drop by!
NV- ok post that damn pic will you...can't stop thinking about it and now I have to go tutor in 20 min and be all adult with that image zooming around:)
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Ok all. Here is one, and I will sound really shallow - but I have ALWAYS been attracted to what "society" thinks are attractive men. Nathan, Hugh Jackman, Jason Behr, my husband. Always. I think it has to do with the fact that the men in my family are all really quite spectacular. It is not that character and personality don't count, its just what I am attracted to. This is my "type" My best friend has always been attracted to men who would "society" would not find attractive. That is her "type". She finds these men physically appealing. I once pointed out a really cute guy to her, whom she too found attractive (a rarity) and she said to me that he was "out of her league".
Here is the question, do you think that there are people "out of your league"? I NEVER considered such a thing (at least not until recently, and now I am convinced NO ONE would want me). But is this a common thing? Is it a woman thing or does it cross both sexes.
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I can shoot a gun. I think it's a family law or something that everyone knows how to handle a gun. We don't kill things, but we can all handle one safely. I think this is a good policy.
And yeah, cold steel, precise stimulation, deft handling... That is sexyyyy!
To bring up Ex of Doom again (dammit!) another thing that attracted me to him was that he was the only man I ever met who could properly use a blade on me. He never pressed to hard or used the tip. Sadly, we didn't end up doing that too often. It was a special treat, I suppose.
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I never considered someone to be out of my league. Out of reach, sometimes, but not like out of my league. I have tended to date men who are not traditionally attractive, but who I have found attractive for whatever reason, but I am also very attracted to traditionally handsome men. It's just that there aren't that many around here. And those who are gorgeous are also gay. But I don't really have a "type". I do need to go for more than their looks to really go for them, though. I have talked to some quite attractive people (both sexes) who I lose interest in the second they open their mouths. Oh well.
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hmm- out of my league as in they wouldn't be attracted to me or out of my league as in they are unattainable due to high social standing?
As for the first..I am sure I am not anywhere close to everyone's type and ok I've never been turned down, but I'm sure I could be.
For the second- not really as I sort of opted to leave the high social standing crowd ( for the most part can't really avoid my family)pity I can't get them to take my name off the stupid debutante list ( yes wore the dippy dress did the presentation and everything)
EDIT- and on a side note I am attracted by intense masculinity so it would really depend on the guy not his looks ( though admitted preference for hansomly chiseled)
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I am also capable of handling firearms, having been brought up to be knowledgable ad respectful of them (first fired a gun when I was 5 years old).
Out of my league? Well, I kinda follow PR on this...maybe unreachable, but not out of my league. I was also brought up to never think anyone was either better or worse than myself. There are just different levels of attainability, so yeah, there are some that are unattainable.
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The social status thing is a different question. I wouldn't consider someone to be out of my league just because they had "higher status", per se, but if they were a jerk (which most of those I have met are) then I'm just not interested. Too bad, I wouldn't mind a Sugar Daddy (but would have to actually care about him; damn everything)
The unattainable thing has been more a "She's gorgeous and straight" or "He's devoted to so-and-so" thing, btw...
Adding to the being able to fire a gun thing; I forgot to mention I can also kick the crap out of a heavy bag 
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Howdy all! Tough morning with a pointless staff meeting. Yuck.
Guns: I'm with Dayve on this. They really do nothing for me. Actually, they kind of scare me. Now, I'm all for people's rights to own them, but I don't want to see them. And now let me back-peddle a little: I think Jayne, and his confidence with guns, is hot. But I can seperate that from reality. Guns in my real life = no no.
MSG: while I thought Casual was cute and the helicopter was cool...I much prefer the cuteness factor of the guy who saw Nathan at the theater. No guns to be found but one BDH present and accounted for. 
FMF: I'm pretty much like you on what I find attractive. And yes, I usually do feel that anyone I find attractive is out of my league. I don't know if growing up in CA, where gorgeous is average, or always being the "ugly one" in my group of friends has anything to do with it (as well as some horrible, horrible times in Junior High) but I just never think the guys I am attracted to are going to be attracted to me.
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Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
I never considered someone to be out of my league. Out of reach, sometimes, but not like out of my league. I have tended to date men who are not traditionally attractive, but who I have found attractive for whatever reason, but I am also very attracted to traditionally handsome men. It's just that there aren't that many around here. And those who are gorgeous are also gay. But I don't really have a "type". I do need to go for more than their looks to really go for them, though. I have talked to some quite attractive people (both sexes) who I lose interest in the second they open their mouths. Oh well.
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I think a lot of people have been there. I'll talk to gorgeous women, but as soon as they open their mouths, I can tell I definitely don't want to date them. I cannot abide superficial, self-centered people.
EDIT - Plus, I'm new to where I live and I'm finding it hard to meet people.
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STOP IT RUGBUG YOU ARE GORGEOUS!!!!
Ok, sorry, losing of head...
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Originally posted by RugBug:
Howdy all! Tough morning with a pointless staff meeting. Yuck.
Guns: I'm with Dayve on this. They really do nothing for me. Actually, they kind of scare me. Now, I'm all for people's rights to own them, but I don't want to see them. And now let me back-peddle a little: I think Jayne, and his confidence with guns, is hot. But I can seperate that from reality. Guns in my real life = no no.
MSG: while I thought Casual was cute and the helicopter was cool...I much prefer the cuteness factor of the guy who saw Nathan at the theater. No guns to be found but one BDH present and accounted for.
FMF: I'm pretty much like you on what I find attractive. And yes, I usually do feel that anyone I find attractive is out of my league. I don't know if growing up in CA, where gorgeous is average, or always being the "ugly one" in my group of friends has anything to do with it (as well as some horrible, horrible times in Junior High) but I just never think the guys I am attracted to are going to be attracted to me.
YOU ARE NOT UGLY!!!!!! And you would not be REGARDLESS of who you are with!!!!!!!!!!! I WISH I looked like you!As for higher social standard - I grew up in high falutin arena's so I wouldn't think of that as an issue, and my mom will tell you I married down! LOL I think everyone is in everyone's league, its just a matter of one of them having their head up their pattootie!
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Rugbug..do you own a mirror???? 'cause I have to say DAMN if you're the ugly one in your class the rest have to be holy goddess level... you are incredible looking!!
Yeah see the guy with Nathan mmm ok ...but Causal/Jayne and the like MMMMMMMMMMMM!!!
Which is why I say out of league as in not your kind of turn on would definitely be where I see myself:) I think everyone has people they find attractive and others they may like but not have that WOW spark... So FMF just grab yourself a pole and fish for what you fancy!
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Msg
Why wouldn't you be someones type? You are lovely! There is a whole country of girls that look like you! You look more Black Irish than I do and I am jealous!
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Well, having only ever having one 2-day boyfriend, who asked me out for a cruel joke because he was put up to it by a friend (don't worry, I got my revenge
)I would have to say I often get that "Out of my league" feeling, and also because I often end up becoming "Just friends" with a guy I like, and one time, he actually asked me to help him get another girl(!)
I almost always go for the not conventionally attractive guys, because they are usually nicer and don't know their attractive, as so many conventionally hot guys do, and also, I then have more of a chance.
Damn you Fox! Damn you to Hades!!
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there is NO ONE in this area that I even REMOTELY fancy. I am surrounded by the unwashed. Crikes, the way ExFMF looks now, I wouldn't even fancy him! I will remain a NUN - ain't got nun, ain't gonna git nun - forever

I DO have a friend in hollywood who is on friendly have him over for dinner terms with Mr K. Reeves. Must give her a call!
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Come to the US, I promise that boys will find you appealing! And what is the address of this boy? I must open a can o WHOOPASS upon him! 

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I agree, the traditionally hot guys also tend to be jerks because they know they are hot. Not always, but mostly.
I had those kinds of cruel jokes played on me too! I'm sorry.
I got wise after the first one, though. I always made a big fuss about turning them down in front of lots of people. I didn't date much in school...
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I hate people like that! I don't like people who make fun of other people - ever.
I didn't date in high school. Mostly because I had 2 very large, very popular brothers who announced to the woorld the off limits of the me. Very, very frustrating. My first real long term boyfriend was a Tom Cruise Top Gun era look alike. He was a Marine. YUMMY, then the ExFMF.
I have been asked out, I just don't really know how to relate to people I don't know, and because I am shy - I think I intimidate people. 

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Shyness does not intimidate people, it makes them think you are not interested.
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I think I intimidate people too, or scare might be a better word. I really have to try to be less sarcastic and scathing. Also, I can be very catty to people I dont like, although only to their face, I can't be doing with two facedness (is that a word?)
I think it may also have something to do with my he-uge nose, skinniness and the flattest chest this side of puberty.
Damn you Fox! Damn you to Hades!!
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What huge nose? You are lovely!
I am thinking of you, aren't I? Did you post in the pictures thread?
And hey, if someone can't deal with scathing, catty, and honest, they are not worth dealing with!
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Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
Shyness does not intimidate people, it makes them think you are not interested.
I can tell you, FMF, from a guy's perspective that PR's explanation of shyness is accurate. If I'm interested in someone and she does not reciprocate that interest, it tells me that she's not interested. Shyness may be preventing you from meeting people. Although, I have to admit I sometimes have trouble asking women out because of a fear of rejection. But then I get over it and I'm like, if she says no, it's no big deal! It still sucks, but hey there are plenty of people out there. Anyway, don't let fear hinder you from meeting a nice guy!
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Hey! MSG! I've seen your photo in the images, don't put yourself down, gorramit, you look great!!
Damn you Fox! Damn you to Hades!!
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from the song Ramona by Bobby Dylan
I've heard you say many times
That you're better 'n no one
And no one is better 'n you.
If you really believe that,
You know you got
Nothing to win and nothing to lose.
From fixtures and forces and friends,
Your sorrow does stem,
That hype you and type you,
Making you feel
That you must be exactly like them.
ya know, i was the class clown in school - quick with the snappy repartee and all... (i've since outgrown that), but it came in handy when meeting girls - if i couldn't make a girl laugh within a few minutes of introducing myself i was already checking the room for another victim.... and i never considered anyone above or below me - i dated the drop dead gorgeous and the brainy bespectacled bookworms and loved them all. A good sense of humor is a playing-field leveling attribute.
edit: ah, victim may have been a poor choice of words... how about lovely, enchanting princess of my dreams....?
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I have been told that when the shyness kicks in I get this sort of aloof aura all around me. I think it comes off as arrogance or something. I have had people tell me how nice I am and how they had thought I was so unfriendly at first - and I am just like NO! I just don't know what to say!
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I have been told that when the shyness kicks in I get this sort of aloof aura all around me. I think it comes off as arrogance or something. I have had people tell me how nice I am and how they had thought I was so unfriendly at first - and I am just like NO! I just don't know what to say!
You don't seem shy here, in fact, I think you're really nice and outgoing, but then things are always easier when you can't see the person you are talking to.
I like you. I am I allowed to count you as my friend?
Damn you Fox! Damn you to Hades!!

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Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
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I have been told that when the shyness kicks in I get this sort of aloof aura all around me. I think it comes off as arrogance or something. I have had people tell me how nice I am and how they had thought I was so unfriendly at first - and I am just like NO! I just don't know what to say!]
You don't seem shy here, in fact, I think you're really nice and outgoing, but then things are always easier when you can't see the person you are talking to.
I like you. I am I allowed to count you as my friend?
Damn you Fox! Damn you to Hades!!
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Of COurse! You are in my verse now!
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I have been told that when the shyness kicks in I get this sort of aloof aura all around me. I think it comes off as arrogance or something. I have had people tell me how nice I am and how they had thought I was so unfriendly at first - and I am just like NO! I just don't know what to say!
Yeah, fear of rejection can be hard to overcome. This is how I view situations where I encounter it. I figure, if I end up putting myself out there and I do get rejected, then it'll suck for like 5-10 mins and then I'll probably never see that person again. But, if I don't end up asking the girl out, then I'll never know if she could be "the one."
It's better to try and feel a little awkward than not try at all. Just be yourself, though I know it can be hard in these situations. I myself have completely lost my brain on a number of occasions in the presence of girl I wanted to ask out.
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You're right, Dayve, I can't like a guy unless he can make me laugh (intentionally) 
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Ok. As a male, I have a statement to make regarding the females in here:
There is not a one of you I would not be interested in having a relationship with. Whether I have seen you or not, I have gotten to know you through this board. You are all witty, intelligent, and unafraid to state your opinion. In other words, you are all strong, and I am proud to know you. Those who have posted pictures, you are all beautiful...I don't want to hear any arguements. 
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Originally posted by Tristan:
Ok. As a male, I have a statement to make regarding the females in here:
There is not a one of you I would not be interested in having a relationship with. Whether I have seen you or not, I have gotten to know you through this board. You are all witty, intelligent, and unafraid to state your opinion. In other words, you are all strong, and I am proud to know you. Those who have posted pictures, you are all beautiful...I don't want to hear any arguements.
Although I am still kind of "the new kid" here, I'm going to have to agree with Tristan. Plus, chicks who dig sci-fi... how can you beat that???
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Such a good issue you raise, FMF! I am also really attracted to hotties, but let me explain...
I didn't think Nathan Fillion was overly hot until I found out he was a comic book geek and a really nice guy. Then - head over heels I went! Brad Pitt? Sure, beautiful man. Nice to look at. But I'm not attracted to him at all! Attraction for me can't be separated from the personality.
That being said - I like the personality to be in a pretty package. I've generally been ashamed of that, because I don't want to be a shallow b**ch. Also, anytime I've met the kind of charismatic, attractive, confident man I like, I assume he'd never choose me over all the babes he could have, so I don't even try.
I'm getting over it! I've decided to be as shallow as I want with the online dating. I figure, I'll either get burned by a few babes and thus gain romantic wisdom, or I'll get real lucky. We'll see how it goes!
Oh ya - shyness. I posted something a few threads ago, and it may sound all preachy, but it's so true I can't help posting it again. The secret is to let people know you like them. I'm so serious! Even good looking folks react well to getting that kind of assurance! I've only discovered this in the past few months, and it really works!!
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We love our Tristan.
*Insert I Heart Tristan here*
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AWWW, Tristan that is so sweet!
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Okay, so people can tell you you're pretty, blah, blah, blah, but if you don't feel like it, does it mean anything? When I get real honest with myself, I think I'm okay looking. Just normal. But what I feel like is that awkward ugly kid I was in high school. The one that all the boys passed over for my friends. Can't tell you how many times the boy I had a crush on ended up dating a friend. Even happened just a few years ago with the guy I was seeing ending up dating and marrying one of my closest friends. Ouch. Basically, I have issues...but don't we all. 
And yes, my best friends were stunners. Bestest friend in high school looked much like Angelina Jolie and was just as thin. I was chopped liver in comparison.
Oops, sorry all. I started this post back, oh about 20 posts, and then all this other stuff has been written and we've moved on. 
Shyness: Oh boy do I suffer from it. The worst part is at times I can be very friendly, but then the next time I see someone it's all shyness, which then really comes across as arrogance. Not good. Mal4Prez, I remembered you wrote that and have been telling myself that quite often lately. I'm hoping it will help....
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Rugbug, first off -- I've seen your picture, and you're very pretty. The sort of girl I think most guys would be amazed to find out likes scifi ("omg, pretty girls don't like scifi!").
You mentioned growing up in California, right? I went to high school out here, then moved to Texas, and recently moved back. In high school, I considered myself average, but I had body issues and tended towards goth things, which lowered me on the cuteness scale for all the California jock type guys at my school. The one and only time I ever got a double-take from the guys at my school was at senior prom.
A few years pass, and I move to Texas, and suddenly I'm the cute one. My sisters have had the same experience, and we can't quite figure out how we're average in one state and then head-turners in the next, lol.
Just part of what makes CA the twilight zone, I suppose. I'm just glad I moved back out here *after* I'd gotten married. I still try to look my best, but where I rank doesn't matter nearly as much to me anymore.
But besides the weirdness of California, the other thing that's worked for me is the "big fish in a little pond" thing. I could never compete with the cheerleaders for the attention of the football players, but put me in a room of gamers, geeks, and nerds, and I'm sitting pretty. ;)
~CK
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Well, some of you know me from the Forsaken threads, and Tristan and I have shared a meal together(mmmm-catfish), so you can blame him for me finding out about this thread.
I don't want to post a novel here to catch up, so I will just jump in if that is OK.
Body image: I grew up around several girls who went on to become Miss Alabama, and doing occassional work in the theater, I will sometimes run into really attractive people. If they don't have a personality to match, I really don't get turned on thinking about them.
FMF, shyness in women tends to be read as non-interest by men, so what does shyness in men come across as? I would think it's the same, but I am curious.
So who is he?
He's my husband.
Well who in the damn galaxy ain't!
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Rugbug
I know what you mean. I remember as a kid hearing people tell my mom constantly how pretty I was (they were on drugs). Then one day I heard this one woman say to this other mother the same thing she had said to my mother, and I hate to say it - but the girl she was talking about had not been blessed. She was not attractive in any way. It was at that moment that I decided it was all a bunch of baloney and to this day I don't believe any compliment. I know I used to be "bery cute" But I don't think I have even been pretty and certainly not "sexy or Hot"
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But besides the weirdness of California, the other thing that's worked for me is the "big fish in a little pond" thing. I could never compete with the cheerleaders for the attention of the football players, but put me in a room of gamers, geeks, and nerds, and I'm sitting pretty. ;)
~CK
Why would you want the stereotypical jock anyway? I'm originally from CA too - Los Angeles. And trust me, those cheerleader types are the ones I avoid like the plague. The partier, superficial, and do-things-for-approval types just don't float my boat. Things I look for are character, personality, sincerity, and whether or not we share similar values on things.
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Shyness in men to me, makes me want to get them to talk to me. I am perverse that way. LOL
I think it comes off as the "strong silent type"
May I just say that ExFMF is one of these and women should think about steering clear!
He is so shy that he barely speaks outside of the house. Of course this did not stop him from having 5 affairs that I am aware of. I have been in the room, right next to him and had women give him their numbers.
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Shyness: Oh boy do I suffer from it. The worst part is at times I can be very friendly, but then the next time I see someone it's all shyness, which then really comes across as arrogance. Not good. Mal4Prez, I remembered you wrote that and have been telling myself that quite often lately. I'm hoping it will help....
I so know where you're coming from! I had people tell me to my face how ugly I was in high school, so I've had that battle too. It's so hard to get over a bad image of yourself once you believe it!
My logic is this: the most interesting people to look at - and I'm talking real people here, not airbrushed photos - are people who are very animated. They may not have perfect features (who does? I have dreadful teeth!) but people who are expressive and open with what they're thinking are more attractive to me than people who keep a wall around them.
Hah! This is coming from a woman who lived in a wall for roughly 30 years. But I'm learning...
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FMF: I cant stand people who say stuff when they dont mean it. Either mean it, or keep your gob shut!
I tend to get a lot of prejudice because of my being really natural blonde, and new people either talk to me like I'm an idiot, or don't believe it when they find out that I actually am clever. I told someone at my work experience that I was studying for an A-level maths exam (I'm 15), and they laughed like it was a joke, and went: "No, really."
Ok, I can be ditsy and away with the fairies(as my name suggests),for example: the other day, I was eating a yogurt in the living room, and when I was finished, I threw the spoon on the log fire, and went and put the yogurt pot in the washing up bowl. No-one discovered until my dad was raking out the fire the next morning, and found a suspicious spoon-shaped piece of blackened metal in the grate.
But I really wish people would get to know me before they started making assumptions.
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I have been in the room, right next to him and had women give him their numbers.
A world class gentleman.
/sarcasm off
You deserve better FMF. Don't ever take that crap from anyone. Believe you are good enough and that you deserve better, because you truly do.
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Why would you want the stereotypical jock anyway?
Oh I totally agree. I wasn't interested in dating the jocks, it's just that at my high school (in NorCal), *everyone* was judged based on how well the jocks and cheerleaders liked you.
Thankfully, real life is nothing like high school, lol. As was mentioned in the last Imponderables thread, I'm a techy geek gamer girl, and I married a techy geek gamer guy. All our friends are geeks and gamers, and I'm much happier being the Queen of the Gamers than I would be being the trophy wife of some ex-football star.
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LOL FMF- ok laughed over the brothers thing..my lil sis's friend had 5 big brothers and the first date she went on they went to the movies..about 20 min into the movie she hears a familiar laugh and turns her head to find...all 5 of her brothers sitting one row behind them in the theater:)
It's not that I don't think I am attractive, I just know I'm not every guys perfect date:) I have no quarrel with that:) I have dated a few shy, sweet, gentle guys and sorry to say have walked all over them...so I tend to try for guys more able to stand up to me. I grew up with 4 guys who are now 1-navy seal 2-army ranger 3-SWAT cop in Watts and 4- paramedic/firefighter ...so I kinda grew up to hold toe to toe with a guy and many of them find that an unattractive quality:) their loss
Rugbug- I still don't see how you can look like every guy's fantasy woman and think that, but I understand it's not always how others see you it's how you see yourself:) HUGS ( but again wow!)
Tristan- you are the sweetest..but I have to agree there are some very lovely people on this board...I think maybe we just need to find a way to all get each other dates!!!( well for those of us who aren't married)
I do have a question for the girls...so do any of you feel uncomfortable asking a guy out? or do you just go for it?
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I am unable to ask guys out. But i HAVE been know to tell men that they owe me dinner for a favor I have done for them. To bad I was married and couldn't collect!
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I need to meet a techy geek gamer girl! Know anyone in TX?
I know a few in Austin, lol. Depends on the age range you're looking for, I suppose. We're a rare breed, though. I can count off all the single techy gamer geek girls I know on both my hands, both here in CA and in Texas, and I work in an industry where that's really the only sort of woman who survives long.
Seriously, what age range you lookin for?

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struggle with the whole 'asking women out' thing, although never figured out why (beyond admitting that i'm slightly caustic, a little bit bitter about previous relationships [which i really should be over by now] and could stand to be a little less sarcastic, so yeah, i've no idea
) because i do believe myself to be a pretty attractive guy, and am fairly confident in that respect. so i put it down to being one of life's unsolved mysteries and struggle on regardless ^^

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Gotta say, I do feel uncomfortable asking guys out: I have a really big fear of rejection.
Then again, I have had really bad experiences boy wise, so now, I'm just sitting back, having fun and concentrating on other things!
My school is definately not stereotyped, well, not my year, anyways. Nothing is guaged by popularity, and there is a divide, but it isn't very big
Geeks and Gamers rock!
edit: sorry for the delay, but my computer's is suffering from crotchey space dementia
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Well, I live in Dallas, but I think Austin is a couple hours away. As for age range, well, I don't know, 21-30 seems okay. I'm 26, but I don't mind dating someone older than me.
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Curious about that myself. Why don't more ladies ask guys out more? Don't get me wrong, I like to chase a little. But I want to be chased damnit!
I've had several "propositions" in the last two months, but nothing I could take seriously. The latest one is a friend of my "dumb" sister. Just broke up with her man, who I can call a friend. Has four kids and no job. She actually doesn't believe in working. Maybe I just live in the wrong town.
Need to find a town filled with smart, fun loving, kinda geeky, physically active women.
Looking for one.
Just one.
Is that too much to ask for?
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NV: I answer to all of the above, but I'm only 15, so you'll have to wait a while 
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Mal4Prez: In a wall?
Just referring to the severe case of Me Smart Independent Modern Woman that I've had since... oh, birth. I'm finally getting old and wise(?)enough to chill the hell out and spend more time with people. It's nice.

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NV-Huh you do need a new town darlin!!! so where's that pic?? Just kidding:) well sort of
I personally have asked out my fair share of guys...including my husband. I had really liked him in college, but he seemed not as interested. After he graduated he just happened to come in to the costume store I worked at. Went straight up told him I'd moved gave him my new phone number and asked him what he was doing that night. Worked great!!!
I have to say if you're too shy to directly ask the guy out...offer your phone number. That tells him you're interested without being too pushy:)I personally have no problem with pushy, but hey go where you're comfy:)
EDIT- and NV you know full well were I not married...I'd have already made the plane ticket reservations!
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Everyone: If you're not spoken for what kinda person are you looking for?
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Well, obviously, it's important to have a good self-view. If you do not feel you "look good", then in your own eyes you are not. It helps to have people give compliments to build up self-ego, but you yourself have to think yourself attractive. We are just here to help with the compliment part...if you hear it enough, it will become truth! Well, that's the goal, anyway 
Hey, BSC, welcome (finally!).
I am also somewhat guilty of being the shy type...well, until I got into college, that is. Can't really be shy and be in Drama, you know? I am also a bit of a wise-crack, and humor was often used as my "in"...if they weren't amused, I went on my merry way. I have dated cheerleaders to bookworms, and enjoyed the time I spent with each one. Not all were classic beauties, but all were beautiful to me. I just always felt lucky that they had chosen to date me rather than anyone else.
Another thing, I never make assumptions regarding anyone until I have spent time talking with them. Some of the best friends I ever had were the ones everyone else called weird, silent, or the killer-in-waiting types.
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okay, rapid change of subject, and not sure to what extent it constitutes an imponderable, but would be interesting to see what people think. Thunderstorms:
now, i love 'em, and most of the people i know who share this love are male. just realised i'm gonna have to walk from here to work in pouring rain and thunder'n'lightning and i could barely stop myself grinning.
so, how does anyone else feel about 'em?

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Well, I live in Dallas, but I think Austin is a couple hours away. As for age range, well, I don't know, 21-30 seems okay. I'm 26, but I don't mind dating someone older than me.
Yeah, Austin is about a three, three and a half hour drive south, depending on where in Dallas you live. Not too bad if you're going for an event or whatever, but maybe a bit too far a distance for a relationship.
If you're at all into such things, you should definitely check out the Scarborough Renaissance Festival next spring. http://www.scarboroughrenfest.com/ I've been out of Texas for a couple of years now, and I *still* miss that faire. Sigh.
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Ok, I can be ditsy and away with the fairies(as my name suggests),for example...
Lol, SBDB, that's what my family calls "being zappy". We were all in "talented and gifted" type programs growing up, but we can have the strangest dumb blonde moments (despite the fact that three of the six of us are naturally blonde). My youngest sister, for example, got 112% in her chem class this past semester, and straight As in everything else, and yet can still sometimes bust out with things like "Cows don't give off mayonnaise!" We just look at her and go "Zappy!"

Oh, and thunderstorms: Love em! If it's a warm, humid thunderstorm, I love being out in it. If it's a cold and windy thunderstorm, I love being snuggled up inside, watching and listening to it.
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SBD- Hey I can tell you what I found:) My husband is really smart, funny, sarcastic, and silly. He's tall with broad shoulders and big muscular arms. He's strong enough to go toe to toe with me in an arguement and not let me walk on him, but nice enough to give me my way sometimes too. HE's thoughtful at odd moments ( like randomly bringing flowers home or buying me a dvd I wanted) and wise enough to ask what I want and mean it. He's good with managing money, but not stingy about spending it.he loves animals almost as much as I do and is great with little kids. He never needs me to dress a certain way and thinks I'm darling even in sweats. He doesn't have a lot of my same interests, but he has no problem with me doing my own thing.
Now not that he's perfect or anything, or that we don't fight or have problems,but he's pretty dang great far as I'm concerned.
EDIT- I love thunderstorms...they have a very "stimulating" effect on me.
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SBDB, had you not told us you were 15, I would have guessed somewhere in your 20's, just by your articulateness (I know, that's not a real word, but it's apt).
Thunderstorms. Love them. The louder and flashier the better. Nothing quite like making love in a thunderous downpour.
Hmm. That may have been TMI...
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I love them! They bring back memories of sitting in front of the fire in the winter, and playing cards by candlelight because the electricity had gone off.
I think they're really beautiful. They are so big, and powerful, and could destroy you if it wanted, it just makes all my problemss seem obsolete.
Come a thunderstorm, I'm mosat likely to be out rain dancing!
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Techy geek gamer girl!
But seriously, a nice girl (damn, I'm so verbose and descriptive). Someone who I can talk with, who shares similar interests with me, and someone independent. I tend not to date republicans because of ideological differences - and in TX, well that's kind of hard to find.
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LOL Tristan- check my edit:) Great minds and all...
Hey that much energy in the air has to go somewhere!!! 
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Thunderstorms - yay!! I grew up in the midwest and when the tornado warnings wcame up me and my dad would go climbing up a hill to see the pretty clouds and mom would be screaming at us from the basement.
I know, survival of the fittest didn't do it's work with me. 
The storms in New England aren't as spectacular. I miss the big boomers!
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SBDB, had you not told us you were 15, I would have guessed somewhere in your 20's, just by your articulateness (I know, that's not a real word, but it's apt).
Thunderstorms. Love them. The louder and flashier the better. Nothing quite like making love in a thunderous downpour.
Hmm. That may have been TMI...
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Aside from the previous explaination...
My prerquisites used to be: Betterlooking, smarter, and makes more money than me.
Thats really not asking alot.
Trust me, it really isn't.
ADD: Used to huddle with the family in the house's center hallway, (storms are bad here in the valley)
On a brighter note: The ex and I, hiking, thunderstorm. Already TMI for my own well being.
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MSG, amen to that! 
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Sorry, SBDB...
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I tend not to date republicans because of ideological differences - and in TX, well that's kind of hard to find.
Lol Ged, get thee to Austin! It's Texas's Berkeley! The one blue point on a completely red map. It's a great little town, with a happening bar & nightclub district known as 6th Street (because it *actually* only takes up the one street, for a few blocks -- I know, shocking, once you've lived in LA ;) ). And while I'm pushing you into fun Texas events, if you're interested in games and tech and such, you might want to check out this one: http://www.gameconference.com/
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NVG, I beg to differ on at least one of those points...you'd have a hard time finding a woman who is more ruggedly handsome than yourself!
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I don't know, there are alot of ruggedly hansome, yet still attractive women throughout the wiles of Nevada. Too bad they are either married or related to me.
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so, i’m not looking - but i saw an ad in the local small town newspaper that went something like...
Seeking mate, W/F, must like outdoors, cooking, cleaning, living in country. Own tractor a plus. Contact *******. Send picture of tractor.
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NV: Not hard for me either, since Ionly earn £9.56 a week with my go se paper round 
Myself, I am looking for a nice boy, good personality, unconventional good looks,sensitive and a bit geeky, who doesn't care what people think and isnt afraid to express himself. Browncoat is great, but not required, as I can convert. I am a huge sucker for curly hair!
Rich is a plus
I have this friend at school, who is so rich that his mother gets a new car when she gets bored of the old one. He is "own a boat when we dont live near the sea" rich. my mum was like: get in there Kate! He is nice, but a bit of an ass, and is always putting his foot in it, because he insults everybody
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Dayve, that's a good one. Thanks for the smile!
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so, i’m not looking - but i saw an ad in the local small town newspaper that went something like...
Seeking mate, W/F, must like outdoors, cooking, cleaning, living in country. Own tractor a plus. Contact *******. Send picture of tractor.
LOL! that is hilarious!
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Damn work...it's distracting me today. 
I love thunderstorms but there just haven't been many in CA for the last few years. We'll get maybe 10 thunderclaps all winter long. That makes me sad. Thunder just sooooo cool. Lightning is even cooler and rarer. I might need to travel some.
FMF: I sit here thinking I am so happy that you are out of that awful relationship. OMG, what an asshat. He deserves an asshat medal. Bronze in the very least. Possibly gold.
Again with the work distraction. I may not get to imponder with y'all until Monday. If not...have fantastic weekends!
Edited: Dayve: tractors are sexy, dontcha know?
What am I looking for:
28-45ish (would have to be a young 45), responsible, funny, caring, kind, honest, independent man who knows how to take care of himself and wants a partner for good times and bad. Oh, and he must be a non-smoker. Yep, that's about does it.
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Permit me to demonstrate an example of my family planning an activity:)
"Hey we should all go to St. George ( local resort town)"
Fam- yes lets go
Me ok when?
Fam ...hm ok next weekend
Me- ok
Fam- (4 days before trip) Let's go to Park City instead
Husband- what why are they doing that I thought we were going to St. George
Me- ok ( change respervations to Park City)
Husband- OK fine we'll go but call everyone and find out exactly what's going on
Family( 3 days ahead) let's do Fri and Sat night instead of Sat sun Mon
Me- ok
Husband- what ...fine ok now call everyone and make sure they are coming and let's plan the activities
Family- (thurs) hey why go to park city for those activities let's just do a Saturday family day
Husband WHAT!!! ok fine, but let's set this up call everyone
Me- ok
Friday- mom calls...I'm still on for Sat but I have to go to a shower with sis from 11-1 so we can't go the the aquarium with everyone
Me- ok - remember I have firefly meeting, but we will be gone from 2-4 but we will be there for breakfast and aquarium
Sis in law calls.. ok I can do breakfast and aquarium, but not afternoon stuff we have to help my grandparents move
Dad- hey I can do everything but the evening stuff.. uncle just called and we're doing a special dinner for grandma's birthday
HUSBAND_ I hate your family sometimes
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punkindoodlegirl (thats Smart to the uninformed) I am looking for Nathan FIllion - the geeky side - in a kilt.
I am looking for KIND, smart, Funny, pretty. Oh and they are gonna have to like kids - you know, cause I have 47. And they have to not mind if one of them is gay, cause um one is.
EDIT - I LOVE THUNDERSTORMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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What's this about Austin? It's a pretty decent city I must admit. I really like the general laid back attitude of everyone around. The only time I see people showing any sort of dissaproval for another person is when they're wearing OU gear or if they're extremly pro-Bush. Even then it takes a lot to get people worked up. It's a generally accepting place. Granted I don't much care for the nightlife. Just not my thing. Though I love the drafthouse. Plus when Nathan and Ron showed up for the Serenity pre-screening I was in heaven. I don't think I'll ever forget that night. Hooray Austin!
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What's this about Austin? It's a pretty decent city I must admit. I really like the general laid back attitude of everyone around. The only time I see people showing any sort of dissaproval for another person is when they're wearing OU gear or if they're extremly pro-Bush. Even then it takes a lot to get people worked up. It's a generally accepting place. Granted I don't much care for the nightlife. Just not my thing. Though I love the drafthouse. Plus when Nathan and Ron showed up for the Serenity pre-screening I was in heaven. I don't think I'll ever forget that night. Hooray Austin!
All of my friends in Dallas tell me that I need to go to Austin and that I would love it. However, my company's corporate office is here in Dallas so, Austin is somewhat of a trek.
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I love my new nick name, thanks FMF!
I guess I could be really specific and say I am looking for Alan Tudyk, because, as anyone who has read a few of my post will know: I have the hugestcrush on him! I have a gorgeous pic of him in my school planner
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that i get out at odd moments to swoon over or show to random people!
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Oh I love Austin. Great little town, one of the few places in Texas where I feel like you can be casually Democrat and not have to worry about getting into a fist fight in the grocery store, lol. Some of the liberal politics in Austin are a little over the top for my taste, but not enough to make me sour on Austin in general. (And that's all I'll say on politics, I promise.) I love, love, LOVE the Drafthouse, I want one out here sooooo bad. I saw Return of the King there opening night, in costume, and couldn't have asked for a better crowd. Unfortunately I moved back to CA before Serenity started making the rounds.
If I have any complaints about Austin, it's that it's too small and doesn't have a big city nearby. I've gotten used to living within proximity of a large city (LA and San Fran mostly), so living in Austin was a little odd for me sometimes. Can't really "go into the city" to catch a show or go to a museum or anything.
But back to imponderables... We were discussing considering ourselves pretty earlier, and I think no matter how much you like your body, there's always something you'd like to change. So if you could change one thing about your physical appearance, what would it be?
For me, I'd get rid of the dark circles under my eyes. They're genetic, I've had them my whole life, and they bug the hell out of me.
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sorry am a bit frustrated with the overplanning husband who likes all ducks in a row and all details fixed combined with underplanning sure whatever family...have headache now!!
EDIT- CK the only thing I'd like removed right now is the whole crew of goofballs in my family:)
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Were I not married...y'all know the rest of that quote, and it does accurately describe my very own lambie-toes...
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I guess I could be really specific and say I am looking for Alan Tudyk, because, as anyone who has read a few of my post will know: I have the hugestcrush on him! I have a gorgeous pic of him in my school planner
I am seeing him tomorrow and getting his autograph at the Dallas Sci Fi convention! I'll scan it and post a pic when I can!
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Um Tristan I think anyone who handles a sword as well as you do is barred from using the phrase lambie toes!!
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ARGH! Ged, I'm so jealous. You had better post it!
Anywho, I'm off now to watch the last in the series of Grey's Anatomy.
Toodleoo!
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Yes, but lambie-toes can use distraction to get in under my guard...not that I complain, mind you...just sayin'.
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Originally posted by Ged:
I am seeing him tomorrow and getting his autograph at the Dallas Sci Fi convention! I'll scan it and post a pic when I can!
Oh man...I am so jealous right now. Tell him Rugbug thinks he's the bomb-diggety.
Or maybe don't...because then you'd look a bit crazy. (Sidenote: having met in real life some people from another board I frequent, it's really strange introducing yourself as "Rugbug". I read it and think it's cute...plus it has some meaning, but speaking it is just...odd.
)Parts of me to change: I would trade in my legs in a nanosecond. I HATE them. Got the family ones, unfortunately. They work just fine for my bro b/c boys are allowed to have big strong legs. Not so much for girls. In one of my college classes we had to do some statistical analysis of muscle loads and strength. We collected the data from our classmates, which was interesting in and of itself. When they measured me, they had to move from the women's charts to the men's.

Now that's how you make penguins even cuter than they already are.
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Oh baby, watch who you're showing that tractor too, it gets crazy in this thread sometimes...
I spent a summer in northern Dallas, which had fabulous lightening storms but the political/social situation nearly killed me. Visited Austin a few times - what a great place!!
CK - I hear you about the dark circles. I've got them too! Dark circles and bad teeth, blah!
If we're getting into personal ads, anyone wanna see my match.com page? Actually, I don't think you can without signing up, or I would show you! It's so cheesy.
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Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
0ooooh get one signed to punkindoodlegirl!
Not a bad idea, I just may do that!
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