Male and Female Imponderables--What's done is done

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TRISTAN

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 4:47 PM

New home, same shiny people!

Last thread:

http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=22158&m=336723#336723

Last Imponderable posted by msg:

Why do guys think that acting like a doofus is a good way to get a womans attention???

Post away!

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NVGHOSTRIDER

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 4:50 PM

I tend to make a fool of myself. Not as much of a doofus as I'd like to think. Damn, I was bursting at the seams with an answer, but its gone now. Try back in a bit.

"Where do bad folks go when they die?"

TRISTAN

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 4:50 PM

msg...not so much doofus as showing off to impress the ladies. Sort of like in nature. We do not have the plumage of a peacock, so we use what we were given...our seeming unlimited ability to do stupid, life-threatening things to impress potential mates. Sometimes it works, other times we end up alone yet again.

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MSG

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 4:51 PM

I think I should clarify I don't mean acting stupid...I mean changing appearance, suddenly taking an interest in things they never liked, and generally making themselves look like comepletely different people than they really are. How is this helpful. The girl who then gets involved with the "new " guy will later end up frustrated and disappointed because he's not the guy he seemed to be and the guy will be frustrated because he couldn't keep the girl...

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

KENOBIUS

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 4:51 PM

(Copied from the old page)

I really don't have an answer. I guess females makes our innards go all fuzzy and wobbly, making it very difficult to think properly. I know I am guiltily as charged. I could learn a billion lines and do the most embarrassing things on stage, but I can't talk to a girl without it turning sour real fast.

EDIT: Gorram ninjas! Now I gotta answer that question as well. I don't think there is any excuse for why we do it. Just that primal chase we've never fully gotten out of performing. Damnable hormones will make liars and assholes out of us.

http://tinyurl.com/ekv6z

PENGUIN

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 4:51 PM

Thanks Tristan!

Cuz alcohol and/or testosterone makes men do stupid things...

They override the "common-sense" area of the brain.

(edit...after clarification) I think men enjoy the hunt and will do whatever it takes to "get" a woman, but then revert to their true selves afterwards. That's one reason I don't think women should rush into anything with a man. Make sure he's what he says he is... I think women fall for the "peacock" but then realize they have a dodo.

TRISTAN

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 4:55 PM

Penguin...been there, have the scars to prove it!

msg, I understand now. See, it's because a female confounds a male. You are the greatest thing in the world, and most males will do anything to be sure you do not leave us. This includes changing our appearance, mannerisms, etc to better fit into your view of how we should be. We do not lose our own identity, we just try to change to meet all your needs.

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STILLFLYIN

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 4:58 PM

I'm of the opinion that I am who I am, and I will not change that for any man... or woman

NVGHOSTRIDER

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 4:58 PM

Ya know, I'd seen both sexes do this alot. That's why dating seems so stupid tome. But so does jumping in head first. Can't be happy with anything. Crap.

On a side note, I figured out my next fantasy fling. In the middle of a lake on a ski doo. Wanted to try on a motorcycle down the highway, but that whole Darwin list thing scared me off.
So much for the skydiving fantasy.

"Where do bad folks go when they die?"

PENGUIN

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:00 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Tristan:
Penguin...been there, have the scars to prove it!

msg, I understand now. See, it's because a female confounds a male. You are the greatest thing in the world, and most males will do anything to be sure you do not leave us. This includes changing our appearance, mannerisms, etc to better fit into your view of how we should be. We do not lose our own identity, we just try to change to meet all your needs.

Of course women have makeup and wonder bras! lol

MSG

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:01 PM

um NV- hate to tell you but the Jetski thing is dang hard..the water keeps hitting you and it's hard to balance even at slow speeds so the person on the bottom gets bit bruised up or so I've been told "ahem"

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

13

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:02 PM

Skydiving?

Damn.

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'Shiny moments aren't a destination any of us get to, and stay put forever. They're unknowable, brief flashes in time. That's what makes them shiny.' -GorramReevers

RUGBUG

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:03 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Penguin:

Of course women have makeup and wonder bras! lol

Oh, but that's not changing who we are, that's enhancing what the good lord gave us.

DAYVE

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:05 PM

ok... once again, i'm going against the grain here - (you guys are gonna give be the boot one day...) but on the doofus dude....well, like i've said before, a good sense of humor does wonders for breaking the ice sometimes - and as far as "don't go changing to try to please me" (ouch, sorry)... one of the first girls to ever give me that 'come hither' look was in a little cafe in a small town that i would hang out in.... i was there one day in my scruffy hang-ten surfer shirt and some ratty cutoffs (i was being me - at the time)... so i learned early on that if you are comfortable with who you are that sense of security translates to positive reactions from others...or, don't try to impress someone by being someone you're not.... it worked that day in the cafe (and quite nicely i might add)

endeavor to persevere...

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:12 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Dayve:
ok... once again, i'm going against the grain here - (you guys are gonna give be the boot one day...) but on the doofus dude....well, like i've said before a good sense of humor does wonders for breaking the ice sometimes - and as far as "don't go changing to try to please me" (ouch, sorry)... one of the first girls to ever give me that 'come hither' look was in a little cafe in a small town that i would hang out in.... i was there one day in my scruffy hang-ten surfer shirt and some ratty cutoffs (i was being me - at the time)... so i learned early on that if you are comfortable with who you are that sense of security translates to positive reactions from others...or, don't try to impress someone by being someone you're not.... it worked that day in the cafe (and quite nicely i might add)

endeavor to persevere...

Have I asked you lately to marry me?!?

DAYVE

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:15 PM

FMF - you are such a temptress..... all i can say is maybe we'll hook up in the next go-round....

endeavor to persevere...

COPILOT

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:16 PM

I'm having to craziest luck lately! I'm supposed to be out of my apartment by aug 9! We made too much noise apparently. I was planning on moving to humbolt on aug 10 anyway. Now I don't owe them any money! New boy does like me! He was out of town and crashed his car so he wasn't calling me. I feel bad because I basically told him come over or you don't care last night. Hopefully he understands tequillia and mushrooms do special things to you're brains cells. Oh well i was way entertained by my fingers to care that he didn't come over. I like him so very much! I want him to be with me forever. He's the only person to ever make me not want anyone else to touch me!!!!!!!!! Yipes!!!!!!!!!!!! I think I might be getting in over my head!!!!!!!!!!!!!

An I carried such a torch

PHOENIXROSE

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:17 PM

Just popping in to the shiny new thread to say I need to go to bed soon. Try not to get too far ahead of me? Heh.

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FUTUREMRSFILLION

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:18 PM

Story of my life these days

TRISTAN

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:19 PM

Took me awhile, but I also figured out it's better to be who I am than try to change to meet someone's needs. Now, I am who I am and happy to be so. Just took several years to figure out...

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NVGHOSTRIDER

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:23 PM

Thanks for sharing. Gives me hope. How 'bout y'all? Things go to crap so often that it is hard to see one posative gorram thing.

Entertained by your fingers? That may be TMI. Or not. Depends. I don't really don't know how to take it.

What the hell, jump in.

Rambling

I'll be in my bunk.

ADD: Thanks FMF. Needed the Tigger to face the day. Gotta go see the big bosses about Sixty grand in missing funds (their fault, not ours).

"Where do bad folks go when they die?"

COPILOT

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:27 PM

I was waving my fingers in front of my face! I don't know if that constiutes too much information. If it does I'm sorry. I'm just being incredably open today and probably for the rest of my life. I can't keep secrets anymore! I don't have the energie to be cageie!

Edit~It seems the more "me" I get the more the world around me loves me. I do crazy rediculious stuff and loose things and walk into walls. The people around me laugh and hug me and call me magic! I'm some much needed entertainment it seems.

Arrrrgggggggg I know he's at work but I want him here right now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

An I carried such a torch

KENOBIUS

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:36 PM

I guess you have to know yourself before you can know others. I agree on the secrets thing copilot, it's not worth the energy anymore. People ask me how I am doing, I don't lie anymore, I tell them "Pretty lonely" Someone asks me what I want to do with my life, I tell them "No idea."

Same thing with makin' people smile. I'll be the idiot if people find it funny. As much as I hate it down here on the bottom, I don't want others trapped here too. If that makes any sense.

http://tinyurl.com/ekv6z

RUGBUG

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:37 PM

Dont mind me. Just playing here to see if this works:

Oh, you guys are in for it now. I found out how to use other emoticons. See, I'm not a dumb blonde, I'm just a blonde with too little time on her hands.

NVGHOSTRIDER

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:38 PM

Anticipation is the worst. My suggestion. Bottle it up. Occupy yourself. Do a puzzle or something. Then, when he arrives, attack him like a starving Cougar.

About the finger thing, that was my first guess.

(Points) Its the magic COPILOT. Everyone bask in her shiny greatness!

"Where do bad folks go when they die?"

MAL4PREZ

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:39 PM

Here's an imponderable - may be more of a ramble than a question...

A thing I'm finding in my dating adventures: I have a pretty srong personality and I'm quite sure of myself. I think the poor fellas see this and step lightly around me, which makes sense in this day and age of the kinder, more sensitive male. But...

I've been realizing that I want a 50/50 kind of thing. I want a man to take charge and be opinionated, as long as he's willing to let me do the same.

um... example. If a guy's iffy about what to do on a date, I'll just say let's go here and do this. Because I'm impatient. And they don't argue. But I really would be fine if a man had a different plan and whisked me away. That could even be romantic and fun.

To make it a question: guys - do you feel like the new age of feminine power traps you into being meek? How have you managed to find a balance?

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DAYVE

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:41 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by nvghostrider:
Entertained by your fingers? That may be TMI.

ah...i could stand to hear some more.......

endeavor to persevere...

DAYVE

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:51 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by mal4prez:
....do you feel like the new age of feminine power traps you into being meek? How have you managed to find a balance?

i'll bite (btw-i didn't mean to crude in my last post - just reminded of that Jayne line...)

but the question sorta goes back to the whole 'be yourself' thing....
i have never felt intidated by women - i even let them open doors for me.... i don't think that makes me meek.... i firmly believe in gender equality and if that makes me less of a man in someones eyes...then that person needs to have his eyes examined.....

one thing i will not stand for is bigotry in any form or fashion....

endeavor to persevere...

KENOBIUS

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by mal4prez:

To make it a question: guys - do you feel like the new age of feminine power traps you into being meek? How have you managed to find a balance?

New age?

I haven't really managed, then again, I'm a pretty meek guy to begin with. Also, haven't been on a date in forever.

I actually like it when the ladies know what they want and aren't afraid to tell you about it. I guess that's the happy balance for me; speaking your mind.

http://tinyurl.com/ekv6z

MSG

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:59 PM

Copilot I love your go for it enthusiasm,but slow down hon and look very very carefully ok...not through the haze please. I am not saying he isn't great, but I am saying you are and I want you to be really happy like you deserve so go nice and slow:)

NV- you want minor happiness? Will that help? I am personally very happy today 'cause I splurged at bath and body works ( sells lotions, body wash, perfume, etc.) and now I smell fabulous. Got shampoo, conditioner, body wash,perfume and lotion all in the same scent and just spent an hour in the happy grooming phase so I am all silky and happy and I love that I smell like coconut lime verbena:)See this is why I am so annoyingly happy and positive. The dumbest little things make me incredibly happy.Also got room freshner so house smells nice too( I like house to look clean, but I love it when it smells clean too)

OK I keep wanting to ask this question, but it's a bit racy and kind of personal and a bit silly sooo...I'm not sure y'all want to be involved in it. hmmm

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:03 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Dayve:
Quote:
Originally posted by mal4prez:
....do you feel like the new age of feminine power traps you into being meek? How have you managed to find a balance?

i'll bite (btw-i didn't mean to crude in my last post - just reminded of that Jayne line...)

but the question sorta goes back to the whole 'be yourself' thing....
i have never felt intidated by women - i even let them open doors for me.... i don't think that makes me meek.... i firmly believe in gender equality and if that makes me less of a man in someones eyes...then that person needs to have his eyes examined.....

one thing i will not stand for is bigotry in any form or fashion....

endeavor to persevere...

I am just gonna keep asking!

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:03 PM

ask away MSG!

WHITEFALL

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:04 PM

Mal4prez: Well if you're going for equality in the relationship, and yet you're finding that you're overridding on the guy... well, to your question, not really.

The new age thing, it's definitly a factor, and them "meek" guys (myself included) are, or should be worried as much about the SO's feelings as their own equally, that's fair. However, no one's perfect, if you find a meek guy, my guess is they already have the respect for females ingrained in em, they're just shy. So you just have to worry about getting the guy to take a more active roll.

All this is in opposition to the older male stereotype of controling the relationship and organizing everything blah blah, and if you find someone who does that, I'd be worried as it'd be harder for them to go down to 50/50.

As for the organization thing, where you have the idea and the guy just agrees, that's because he's afraid of pissing you off, new age of feminism not-with-standing, he doesnt want to piss you off. Imo, the motivating factor of a guy early in a relationship is to not piss off the girl as they could leave the guy n all, and if that annoys you folks, well... that's where awkwardness insues.

"But, these strong women characters?"

"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon

MSG

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:08 PM

ok "WINCE" here's the thing, I keep reading that guys prefer ( ok this is my attempt to keep this from being trashy) good landscaping in a womans um bikini area. So do they??? I don't want to TMI the lot of you unless you want the info ( happy to answer just don't want to overshare)with my bikini area, but I would love to know if guys perfer trimmed, natural, or barren.

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

MAL4PREZ

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:08 PM

Interesting answer Whitefall...

So, how do I draw these meek guys out? Maybe I just need to be patient, give them time to see I'm really soft and squishy inside and they need not fear the Wrath of Me?

MSG - where's the racy question? Bring it on!!

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TRISTAN

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:10 PM

Mal4Prez, no, not so much meek as accommodating. I am not a sub by any means, but I do like to keep the wife happy. I'll ask her opinion as to where she wants to go. If she knows, that's fine by me, as I am not all that picky. If she doesn't know, I will suggest things. If that doesn't work, I will choose. Now, of course, there will be times when I will play at being sub..."no, dear, wherever you want to go is fine"-type thing...which usually ends with me getting smacked . I have never been hesitant about voicing my opinion as to where to go; just that very rarely does it impact on my enjoyment of being with the SO. I don't think the "empowered" woman concept has emasculated me. *And off Tristan goes once again!*
I try to be sure my wife is happy 24/7. As you know, this is not possible. I am relatively easy to please; she knows this, I know this, all things are well. In my attempts to keep her happy, I sometimes bend when I shouldn't. I do not see this as meekness or complacency, I see it as loving my wife, and trying to keep her happy. I can be terse if necessary. I have not yet been laconic, but I have skipped right over into the "not talking" phase a time or two, but things always work out. Love will make someone do things they normally wouldn't. I will not back down from anyone, be it woman or man, unless I choose to do so. I choose to be this way with my wife in order to try to make her life a bit happier.
So endeth the sermon once again. I would apologize for going off, but I don't want to appear meek to y'all.

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FUTUREMRSFILLION

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:10 PM

I don't know about the men. But in my own personal hygiene, I prefer the less is more theory

MSG

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:12 PM

ok since you're sharing FMF...I'm right with you ( brazilian) but I am curious as to the guys response:)

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

WHITEFALL

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:13 PM

As to drawing said meek guys out, bah, I dunno, that could be either inexperience that they just need someone to tell them (maybe not in so many words) that you arent gonna be pissed if they express their own opinions... on the other hand, could be a real confidence psychological issue, and well... though they'll probably eventually figure it out, may not want to wait on that.

Keep in mind, what do I know, though I'm a reasonable observer of my own male condition and all them human conditions, i have 0% actual experience in the field of dating.

On MSG's subject. I, as the 17 year old, havent the slightest clue what you're talking about, and for once I fear it may be bordering on TMI, but meh, dont want to stifle your conversations.

"But, these strong women characters?"

"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon

CALIFORNIAKAYLEE

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:16 PM

Hey all, been lurking all morning once again. I'm off to see my rheumatologist in just a few minutes. I've been preparing to have to fight her about some of my test results. All part of the joy of trying to get a diagnosis. So completely off topic for the Imponderables, I know, but wish me luck.

Oh, and I mentioned the new job possibility yesterday -- still no word on that, but my body decided to remind me yesterday that the new job may not be that great of a fit with my health concerns. So I'm very much beh on that now. If I get an interview and an offer, I'll deal with it then, but for now I'm not sitting next to the phone any more.

*Hugs* to all you, my fellow Imponderable-ers. I'll check in when I get back. ;P

~CK

You can't take the sky from me...

COPILOT

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:20 PM

I just got out of a relationship that was mainly a 75 to 25%. I was on the loseing end. Now I'm 22 and I've never really solved a problem on my own.

MSG-I've been a coward my whole life! I jump head first into love and life with a clear head as well. You only live once! Who even cares if he turns out to be the worlds biggest ass? If he is he'll break my heart and I'll be greatfull for the experience.

It takes so much just to feel alive! Or it could be that I havn't taken my lithium in over two months. I've been okay I havn't died. I think he just wanted to normal me out for a while! If you don't want me don't have me. I'm unadultrated Dentatia! F**k if you can't handle it. That wasn't aimed at anyone in this forum it was aimed at the world around me. I might be a crazy person who can't control what comes out her mouth but I love you anyway!

An I carried such a torch

KENOBIUS

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:20 PM

Good luck!

MSG, wow, good question... I'm just going to say it. Either trimmed or nothing at all. Not a forest dweller.

...Yep, that went well.

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PENGUIN

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:23 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by msg:
ok since you're sharing FMF...I'm right with you ( brazilian) but I am curious as to the guys response:)

Less is much better...

WHITEFALL

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:24 PM

That's the spirit Copilot, FIGHT THE POWER!!!

But just keep in mind that most of the folks on this board have done that whole loved n lost thing, some of them with ex-es, so they/we are just worried you're running that relationship too fast. We're like a conglomerate of mother hens. Aint we fabulous?

"But, these strong women characters?"

"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon

TRISTAN

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:25 PM

msg, that depends on the situation. Let's see if I can do this without hitting TMI...sorry to those younger ones amongst us, but this is the type of topic we ocassionally hit here in the Imponderables. We do try to maintain an aura of decorum, though.
To look at, it doesn't really matter. I do prefer neatness when it comes to that, but I am not picky. For other things, I have experienced the whole spectrum, and find that I agree with FMF in that less is more. Both hygenically and aesthtically. Brazilian is nice, but I don't mind a little more.
Hope that didn't get too bad...

So, women, same question to you...what is your preference for hair in the male "bikini" area?

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WHITEFALL

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:27 PM

Lol ok i was a little slow on the uptake, but now I get it.

Anyhoo, carry on, I'm sure I won't put this info to use for many years, but hey, learning is always good.

"But, these strong women characters?"

"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon

COPILOT

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:28 PM

I've kept it trimed lately. I usually don't care much. But you know the whole relationship thing.

I was wondering how many girls gain weight duing a realtionship and the loose when they're single again. I don't know why but I gained 40 pounds with former SO. I had eating disorders before so it didn't really matter. Now that we've broken up however I'm dropping pounds like nobody's bussiness. All I do is drink and eat fast food it's kinda confusing.

An I carried such a torch

MSG

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:31 PM

whitefall you have no idea how happy I am that you have no idea what we are talking about:) No offense I just don't want to be the corruptor of the minors:)

Hmm- I don't know as I have ever known a guy who did anything in that department...though may I say for those of you with back hair...WAX NOW! sorry pet peeve:)

Mainly I asked because a few of my friends said that the brazilian meant I was slutty and I did point out that only one person ever saw it so how would anyone know ( ok blew that little argument with this discussion, but)I just wondered how guys felt about it:)These are the friends who also have isse with my tats:0 Not so much friends as acquaintences in common

EDIT_ Copilot so jealous of you eating fast food and still losing weight ( took me eating nothing but veg and tofu and 2 years of working out) I did gain weight with my SO ( quite a lot)but I also lost it without losing him so all good
I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

DAYVE

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:32 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by msg:
you ( brazilian) but I am curious as to the guys response:)

i was watching some movie the other day when one guy asks the other guy..."does the carpet match the drapes..?" and the other guy says - "bare floor"...

yeah, i like the bare floor

endeavor to persevere...

TRISTAN

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:37 PM

CK, apparently I missed you! Good luck on the doctor! And I hope the job thing works out after all this.

And Dayve, one of the "fun" things about a new lover is discovering things like that. The first time I came across a "bare floor" I about had a heart attack. The description would be inapropriate for this board; just suffice to say we both had a good laugh at my expense.

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DAYVE

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:37 PM

and yes... i have shaved the 'junk' before

endeavor to persevere...

GED

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:38 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by msg:
ok "WINCE" here's the thing, I keep reading that guys prefer ( ok this is my attempt to keep this from being trashy) good landscaping in a womans um bikini area. So do they??? I don't want to TMI the lot of you unless you want the info ( happy to answer just don't want to overshare)with my bikini area, but I would love to know if guys perfer trimmed, natural, or barren.

Trimmed or barren works for me.

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MAL4PREZ

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:40 PM

Re the lawn care - and good question as I've been wondering too - here's an extended question for you ladies, and I'm telling you, it's TMI but I need advice! The dating has begun and (I hope) this is now an issue for me!

So, I wax the bikini line, you know, the front/sides. But... as for the more intimate places... how does one wax there? 1) Ouch! 2) I can't reach!

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I'm the president. I don't need to listen.

MSG

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:42 PM

CK- big HUGS and tons of positive and happy thoughts going your way!!!

Tristan-LOL I am so picturing that reaction now:) Probably shouldn't , but too late for that now

Dayve...so was it a problem, would you do it again???

Whitefall- drat you've broken the code...just don't tell anyone where you learned this:)

See I like my "bare floor" and it makes my tat look better so I am keeping it. I just wondered if guys thought it was a bit trashy or something....good to know it's a hit:)

Is it vain that I have smelled my hair like 5 times now?...I love scented shampoo:)

EDIT- Mal4Prez there are two things no one should EVER do themselves...cut their own hair and wax their own bikini zone...get a pro! It's not too expensive. Brazilian's about $20 a month. Landing strip is maybe $10-12. You can go a bit cheaper with beauty schools ( it really isn't dangerous they are supervised and they have trained well and all) if you're worried about pain I know some girls who take advil ( not aspirin as it will cause bruising) before hand.
I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

TRISTAN

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:42 PM

Dayve, did you have a problem with chafing and serious itching when it started to grow back? That was the only drawback to doing it. (Side not, I can't believe I am discussing this...)

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FUTUREMRSFILLION

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:46 PM

MSG

Your friends are idgamits. Sorry, but there it is. (A) one has to have a lot of action to be a slut and (B) as long as they are practicing safe sex and are not encroaching on someone else'e territory then WHO CARES.

If it makes you feel good - then that is all that matters. I for one, feel better when things are landscaped nicely - and we all know I am a nun (pronounced NONE)

WHITEFALL

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:47 PM

Sorry to let you down, but come on, I'm in theater, it's a natural result that I get a dirty mind.

I was gonna ask to change the subject, but well... this is certainly an imponderable of the opposite genders........ /shrug.

"But, these strong women characters?"

"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon

DAYVE

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:48 PM

yeah, this is too weird....
but back in my swimming/cycling days i stayed as smooth as i could - that passed - and now i'm back to 'normal' (that makes me laugh).... but still keep it trim...and i never really had any bad reaction, of course all men like to sit around the house with a can of Duff beer and scratch where it itches, right?

endeavor to persevere...

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:50 PM

get it done professionally. You don't want any too hot issues in the tender area. And believe me, they have seen it all, so the only one embarrased will be you. Also, many places allow you to wear undies of some sort and you just move the sides over-minimizing the display time.

As for TMI - I wish I had known some of this stuff before engaging in relations - would have helped a great deal.

TRISTAN

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:51 PM

Dayve, thanks for the understanding. Never biked, but I did spend time in Drama...that is when I learned the value of talcum powder. Nowadays, just the ocassional trim works.

Again, Whitefall, sorry about this, but you can check back now and again until we hit another topic.

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FUTUREMRSFILLION

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:52 PM

MSG

Tats description please, I have forgotten what you have and where.

DAYVE

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:53 PM

Tristin... actually, one of the razor companies has recently marketed a shaver just for this purpose - a men's razor.... i haven't tried it, but hear it works pretty well -

endeavor to persevere...

COPILOT

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:54 PM

MSG-Yep losing weight really fast. Aparently sex and joy and random activity causes weight loss. Also not givin a flying f**k. As soon as I stopped caring how much I weighed I started dropping pounds. Skateboarding helps I'm sure but I hurt my ankle pretty badly last week. I'm sitting here and losing weight it's insain. Does mental anguish burn calories?

An I carried such a torch

MSG

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:55 PM

celtic infinity symbol right beneath left hipbone in front...am getting Serenity tat on July 28th on same place right hip:)

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:58 PM

This is what I want, front left LOWER abs

I have a lower back tribal with flower and front lower right hip wolf baying at moon

PENGUIN

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:59 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by mal4prez:
Re the lawn care - and good question as I've been wondering too - here's an extended question for you ladies, and I'm telling you, it's TMI but I need advice! The dating has begun and (I hope) this is now an issue for me!

So, I wax the bikini line, you know, the front/sides. But... as for the more intimate places... how does one wax there? 1) Ouch! 2) I can't reach!

Willing to do "lawn care"...

GED

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:00 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by mal4prez:
The dating has begun

I'm waiting for this phrase to become to true for me!

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This above all, — to thine ownself be true.
http://www.myspace.com/artv

GED

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:02 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by copilot:
Aparently sex and joy and random activity causes weight loss.

I tried this once, and I still gained weight.

__________________________________________________
This above all, — to thine ownself be true.
http://www.myspace.com/artv

RUGBUG

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:03 PM

I've been wanting a tattoo for sooooooooo long. I think I've made a decision on what, which is what has been delaying things. Here's what I am thinking:

What do y'all think? It's the symbol for "horseman" (although I would like to get that verified before I get inked). It combines my first passion with a slight Firefly/Serenity reference with the chinese and all. Now, just have to think of a place for it.

Weight gain/loss: Breaking up is the best diet. And being happy in new relationship spells disaster. So, apparently, does breaking your arm. Will get that one sorted out right quick.

MSG

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:05 PM

That is exactly what I want too FMF:) It's perfect. It's simple, elegant, and not too much. I try to keep my tats in a "hidden" location because students aren't allowed them and I don't want to rub it in that I am, plus my reasons for getting them involve personal stuff I don't generally share with students:) Mind you once had a low rider jeans incident where I am hanging lights and I hear a student say " Nice tat Mrs.G" and I about died 'cause my jeans had slipped down low enough for them to see it

EDIT- rugbug that's a great one...put it wherever you want hon ( though I don't reccomend ankle it hurts)
I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

TRISTAN

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:06 PM

Dayve, really? Hmm. Might be a little difficult to find around here, but might be worth the effort. Thanks.

msg, I know this has been said before, but tattoos can be incredibly sexy. Especially in the places that normally do not see the light of day.

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FUTUREMRSFILLION

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:07 PM

I agree with the "hidden" tats. I am getting my Serenity, because that is what I have found since IT left. The whole "Tore up Plenty". But I have a little bit of toning to do first. Else I would get mine on the 23rd (my bday). Don't want the tattooist shoving me fat out of the way!

KENOBIUS

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:09 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Ged:
Quote:
Originally posted by mal4prez:
The dating has begun

I'm waiting for this phrase to become to true for me!

Amen to that.

http://tinyurl.com/ekv6z

MAL4PREZ

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:10 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Penguin:

Willing to do "lawn care"...

*giggles wildly*

GED - yeah, I've got cheesy dating from an online service, which is slow going. I figure, at least I'm trying, which is more than I've done in a long, long time!

Copilot - I have the opposite thing - since I started being happier (referring to TMI in last thread) I've been putting on the pounds. I weigh more than I ever have, but I just can't make myself care enough to exercise.

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I'm the president. I don't need to listen.

TRISTAN

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:12 PM

Back before I knew of Firefly, when I was pursuing my psychology degree (89-94), I toyed with the idea of getting a chinese tattoo...

...which means "to listen" or "to hear", which I thought was fitting for the degree. Kinda glad I didn't now, as I am nowhere near that field anymore.

-EDIT-
I guess posting a black symbol on a black background defeats the purpose, eh?

I'm working on it...
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MSG

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:14 PM

Mal4Prez- yeah excercise is sucky, but actually quite worth it:0 Though every time I see one of those commercials for that gym Curves it makes me nuts. All those women all happy smiley and bouncy like they're joyful while working out... Never actually saw anyones face look like that while working out...I certainly don't. For me working out is an hour out of my life each day that drives me nuts but with great results...kinda like doctors appointments:)

EDIT- Tristan love I'd post a pic of my tat after I get it, but that would definitely be TMI for everyone:)
I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

PENGUIN

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:14 PM

lol 75 posts in just a short time...we do loves to talk!

PENGUIN

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:18 PM

If I were ever to get a tat, it would either be...

or

TRISTAN

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:20 PM

msg, there are other ways for the mature ones to see it without open posting, and there are those of us that would love to see it!

I got the chinese fixed:

It means "to listen" or "to hear". See my above post for more info.

Oh, Penguin, I edited my first .gif file! You inspired me, and it worked!

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COPILOT

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:20 PM

Yes we do love to type! The only thing I've ever truely considered writing forever on my skin is that Serentiy sybol and now Curtis. I have no idea why he's under my skin so badly. I'm not that kind of person! I fall in love and lust easily but no to this intensity! I'm scared!

An I carried such a torch

PENGUIN

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:22 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Tristan:
Oh, Penguin, I edited my first .gif file! You inspired me, and it worked!

MSG

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:24 PM

ok breathe in and out Copliot...this is good and happy!! Now remember you are a gorgeous woman and this is happening because you deserve a great guy to appreciate you!! does that help?

Tristan- I think my husband would flip a gasket the tat will be a mere 3 inches above "ahem" but I could probably get an up close pic and post that:)

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

RUGBUG

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:24 PM

Exercise sucks. And I was a physical therapy major in college. I should like it.

I did just run for this weekend for the first time since the injury. My arse hurts. But I wasn't as tired as I thought I would be. Guess all those days in the gym have paid off somewhat.

MSG

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:30 PM

LOL rugbug... I have a friend with a bumper sticker that says " I run if chased" I used to laugh...then I ran a marathon and OW!! I mostly do a fast walk 3.5-4 mph at a 12 incline on the treadmill and it works well when combined with strength training/weight lifting:)

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

MAL4PREZ

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:30 PM

MSG - I tried to join the Firefly fit club to guilt trip myself into running a few times a week. Even ran a few times and enjoyed it. It's just hard to maintain - there's always something I'd rather be doing.

Edit: makes me think of a new imponderable - juggly butts anyone? I'm getting jiggly-er by the day. I prefer a trim man, and I'd prefer a trim me, but some guys like it if the Baby's Got Back. Or so I hear.

That what I tell myself, rather than going running.

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I'm the president. I don't need to listen.

GED

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:30 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by copilot:
Yes we do love to type! The only thing I've ever truely considered writing forever on my skin is that Serentiy sybol and now Curtis. I have no idea why he's under my skin so badly. I'm not that kind of person! I fall in love and lust easily but no to this intensity! I'm scared!

Careful with your heart there CP - I've been there many a times and have ended up quite hurt. Get to know him for a while and control this feeling. It's easy to fall quickly, but as they say, moderation in all things.

__________________________________________________
This above all, — to thine ownself be true.
http://www.myspace.com/artv

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:34 PM

My advice is to NEVER tattoo the name or likeness of another human being on your body unless it is your child - and even then I don't think I would.

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:35 PM

Mal

Taebo - lifts that jiggly bit right up! And I prefer toned. Anyone. Toned.

MSG

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:38 PM

fairly toned here...though I have to work my ass off ( no pun intended) to do it:)

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

RUGBUG

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:40 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by msg:
LOL rugbug... I have a friend with a bumper sticker that says " I run if chased" I used to laugh...then I ran a marathon and OW!! I mostly do a fast walk 3.5-4 mph at a 12 incline on the treadmill and it works well when combined with strength training/weight lifting:)

See now, that frustrates me. I was in the gym, six days a week, riding recumbent bike for 45 minutes, on treadmill 25 minutes at 3.5 with a 13 incline and legs weights 4 times a week (no arms at this point) and still wasn't losing weight. Diet was good and in appropriate ranges as well. I decided I was working too damn hard for little to no results and backed off to gym three days a week, riding 3-4 and just started the twice a week run. I'm getting ornery, I tell you.

I agree with never tattooing someone's name/likeness. That's part of what keeps me from getting a Serenity tat. What happens if in 15 years I'm like "Firefly? Phffft." (doubt that will happen, but....

I'm fiddling with my "horseman" idea. I think I might have an silhouette of a horse jumping over it. (Sidenote: I do know of a woman who has a horse jumping over a "brush" jump...if you know what I mean.

MSG

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:47 PM

Rugbug- right with you doll..Like I said I spent 2 years eating less than 1500 calories each day and working out an hour and half with weights and cardio every day 6 days a week to lose my weight and now to keep it off I can only eat 1700-1800 calories and have to work out an hour a day 6 days a week to keep it off. I truly loathe my metabolism (own fault as I ate next to nothing for years as a dancer and it messed up my metabolism) I swear sometimes genetics SUCKS WIDE!

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:50 PM

Rug - See I am equating the Serentiy tat I want to how I feel about my life - not as a firefly lover :) So its BONI!

I can run on a treadmill at 12% incline and not lose an ounce.

When they thought I was having a heartattack, they did a stress test and the doctor thinks I am a freak of nature-cardiovascularly I am about 20.

DAYVE

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by RugBug:
(Sidenote: I do know of a woman who has a horse jumping over a "brush" jump...if you know what I mean.

yippie-tie-one-on little buckaroo....! (wondering if that tat is a tad distracting at times....hum...)

endeavor to persevere...

TRISTAN

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:03 PM

msg, gasket-flipping is bad. If you can, shiny, if not, we understand totally.

Exercise. I was never all into it. When I was younger I could eat my weight in junk food and never gain a pound. Unfortunately, it's catching up to me now. I am not obese at all, just developing the "barrel" shape of my predecessors. I have always been proud of the musculature of my legs, and try to keep them in shape by fighting, etc, but I am losing what little butt I had...not sure where it's going!

I agree. No names in ink. Bad idea, even if you think you'll be with that person the rest of your life.

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MAVOURNEEN

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:03 PM

After losing both of my parents and getting diagnosed with kidney disease in one 14 month period, I had the Chinese symbol for "Strength of Heart" put on my lower back. It's covered, it's for me, and I touch it when I need strength.

As for lawn care...I used to manage a laser hair removal spa, and from the numbers of women who paid $$$ to get brazillians...permanent brazillians, it would be my professional opinion that many, many men prefer the garden trimmed waaaay down. That, and my own man folk seems to like that as well.

"Have you ever been with a Warrior Woman?"

MSG

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:06 PM

So sorry about your parents and all hope you are well, but oooh mavoureen I have questions many questions...ok a few anyway
So is it really permanent? How badly does it hurt? and How many treatments for a permanent brazilian? I keep pondering the lazer thing, but want to be sure it's worth it!

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

DAYVE

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:11 PM

ok...is exercise imponderable?....
i've always been an active person.... not a couch potato type.....
and i've done a lot of the things active type folks do... but a few years ago i pretty much focused on running, and that kept me in condition...then the dreaded plantar fasciitis got me... for those who've not heard of it - it's also known as heel spurs - and it affects the muscle on the bottom of the foot - (and it usually happens to older runners - insert me).... i had to stop running for a year and man, did i gain weight - i eventually got back on the mountain bike and knocked it down and i've been slowly getting back into running in the last year although i doubt that i'll ever get back to where i was..... and the thing is, i love running - it's the best therapy i could find - just concentrating on placing one foot in front of the other and your mind clears...any troubles i had at the time melted away.... running is as much a state of mind as muscle.... i miss the good old days!

endeavor to persevere...

MAVOURNEEN

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:12 PM

It works amazingly well. I haven't shaved my legs, underarms or wahini in two years, and i have no hair there. It is gone. However, it hurts. It hurts bad. My company used a numbing cream so that helps a lot...but any company that says it is pain free is using the laser at such a low intensity it is a waste of your money. And yes, it is permanent. Make sure you find a company that uses the Lightsheer Diode machines, as those work amazingly well.
It feels a little like a hot needle being poked into your skin everywhere the laser pulses, but the anesthetic really helps, and the results are well worth it.

Edit: Full Brazillian is 6+ treatments spaced every 10-12 weeks apart. Don't EVER let anyone treat you at any interval than that or again, a total waste of money.

"Have you ever been with a Warrior Woman?"

DESKTOPHIPPIE

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:13 PM

I've got a tattoo on my lower back too - a celtic knot, vaguely in the shape of an upside down triangle.

I'd wanted to get a tattoo for a long time, and the lower back is always a nice place I think. I've lived in Ireland my whole life, so I've been surrounded by Celtic myth and culture from my earliest days. I always knew I'd get a Celtic symbol. I chose a Celtic knot as it's supposed to symbolise our place in the universe - I was struggling to find my place in the world at the time. Plus it's pretty :)

I've never regretted getting a tattoo. I still love it three years later. I'm seriously considering getting a second one. I'm thinking of getting the word "poet" written in ogham on the back of my neck, or on my upper back between my shoulder blades.

Did it hurt? Not as much as I thought it would, and I'm a total coward when it comes to pain. It's sort of like a cross between a deep scrape and a very mild burn when you get the outline done, and the shading is very, very easy - doesn't really hurt at all. Mine took an hour and a half. It's not large, but it's a fairly complicated design with some shading effects to it, so it took some precision.

Desktop Hippie

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:19 PM

Dayve

Prior to the move to the UK and the whole "I am an Ae problem with the ex-FMF, I used to ride 12 to 15 miles a day on a bike, and I was IN SHAPE - started running too, but went to fast -not running to running 4 miles in a week (oops) and got stress fracture in me foot. Now I just can't seem to get back into exercising and I LOVE IT! I am hoping to get started again this week. :(

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