Male and Female Imponderables - If music be the food of love, play on

POSTED BY: PhoenixRose
UPDATED: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 13:04
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PHOENIXROSE

Saturday, July 22, 2006 8:17 AM (P)

Tristan told me to go ahead and start a new thread so long as the title was Shakespearean in nature.
So I did

Last imponderables thread is here: http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=22436&m=345190#345190

So... discuss.

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WHITEFALL

Saturday, July 22, 2006 8:44 AM (P)

Wheee! First post!

Lol, Rose, I'm not usually up this late, but packing at the last minute is sort of an art form, it's gotta be done right.

Btw what play is that from? It's a great choice. Sounds like Romeo n' Juliet to me, party scene perchance? Just a guess.

Hmmm... should we be pondering stuff? Actually, screw that, I have a question... Why do all the posts happen early in the morning? On my summer schedule I sleep from around 11pm to 9am-ish, PST, and somehow I always miss most of the posting. What's with that I wonder?

"But, these strong women characters?"

"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon

PHOENIXROSE

Saturday, July 22, 2006 8:50 AM (P)

It says it is from "Twelfth Night". The full quote is actually a little depressing, but this little piece of it I like.

Everyone is going somewhere except me! *pout*
Sorry, my bestest friend left town yesterday for a week. It's not a really vacation vacation, but she's still going somewhere and I'm stuck here working. Bother.

Yeah, we should probably be impondering. I got nothin'. I'm at work, I can't think, and I've asked a lot lately. I'm sure some shiny folk'll be up soon to ask the shiny questions.

...I hope.

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WHITEFALL

Saturday, July 22, 2006 8:52 AM (P)

Is it a sort of night shift thing? Or are the timezones.... gosh that's confusing.

P.S. I am gonna do my homework on the trip though! It aint all fun and... well, ok it aint all relatives and boredom, as cool as my relatives are.

"But, these strong women characters?"

"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon

PHOENIXROSE

Saturday, July 22, 2006 8:58 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Whitefall:
Why do all the posts happen early in the morning? On my summer schedule I sleep from around 11pm to 9am-ish, PST, and somehow I always miss most of the posting. What's with that I wonder?

Sorry, missed this. Strange, because I find the posts kind of explode when I get home from work, which is around 7am my time (Mountain) and I end up staying up late posting, then miss all the posts I sleep through and make up for it with page-long responses.
I am of course on this time of night/morning because of the night shift thing. A lot of people feel they miss a lot while they sleep, though, because this board is almost always active. Except at about 4am my time. Then it is dead.

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WHITEFALL

Saturday, July 22, 2006 9:02 AM (P)

You mean like....

Now?

Kinda dead.

Oh no, not the dead jokes. Just watched the first 4 eps of Tru Calling, more dead person jokes than you can... um.... something about stick shaking. They did it as a joke on morgue jokes tho.

Dont worry about missing stuff, I tend to edit my post when it is the bottom of the thread, which with the two of us seems likely.

So night shift one of them reasons you your job?

"But, these strong women characters?"

"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon

PHOENIXROSE

Saturday, July 22, 2006 9:06 AM (P)

Yeah, kind of like now. It's 3am my time right now, and things are slowing down. But at least the thread list is moving in some way, even if it's slowly. At 4am, if the threads move, I'm more than likely the one moving them.

I still have no impondering. With as much picking apart of things we do, though, I think it's okay for this to turn into a chatty thread every once in awhile. We're at least sort of talking about our own habits. Sort of. And you're male and I'm female so...
Yeah, I'm reaching. Oh well.

I used to love night shift; thought I was naturally nocturnal. It worked well for awhile, now I'm tired of it because I'm so out of step with the rest of the world. That was ok when I had a somewhat regular social schedule. Getting dumped threw that off a little, and now I want to meet people, which is hard when I work nights.
But other reasons exist. There aren't any benifits, the pay isn't far above living wage, and new accounts are being added all the time that I don't know about. Most of the time they don't ring in at night, but if they do I have major freak outs. Blah.
Plus it just isn't a creative job. I'm wasted here.

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WHITEFALL

Saturday, July 22, 2006 9:11 AM (P)

See, it works fine. And if folk have a problem with chatty threads, well they'll have to reclaim it with something all meaningful n stuff.

Still cant think of anything! Grrrrr....

Hmm, male aggression manifesting itself in primitive grunting noises? Grrr... that's reaching too.

It just occured to me... if I'm gonna be 8 hours ahead, maybe that means I can join in the conversations! Cause when folks in the states have morning, folks in UK have.... afternoons! That could be handy.

Ok, lets get MEANINGFUL!!! What is the meaning of life!?

"But, these strong women characters?"

"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon

PHOENIXROSE

Saturday, July 22, 2006 9:15 AM (P)

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PHOENIXROSE

Saturday, July 22, 2006 9:16 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Whitefall:
Ok, lets get MEANINGFUL!!! What is the meaning of life!?

Forty-two.

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WHITEFALL

Saturday, July 22, 2006 9:17 AM (P)

Touche and touche.

"But, these strong women characters?"

"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon

WHITEFALL

Saturday, July 22, 2006 9:19 AM (P)

Arg, it occurs to me that if I start trying figure the meaning of life, with all the happiness stuff, i'll invariably start singing the happiness song, lol, and if i get that stuck in my head... ugh.

Maybe 42 is the answer for a good reason.

"But, these strong women characters?"

"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon

PHOENIXROSE

Saturday, July 22, 2006 9:20 AM (P)

Y'know, I thought it was true love and Firefly, but the common concensous is forty-two.

I love my newfound sign!

Happiness song? No, I don't want to know. I'll stick with the Galaxy Song. I do not want to know.

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WHITEFALL

Saturday, July 22, 2006 9:23 AM (P)

Lol, that sign is awesome. Couldnt decide whether it was real till I took a close look at the screws. They aint detailed enough.

Nah, happiness is one of those sickeningly upbeat songs, from you're a good man charlie brown.

Hmm... true love and firefly... well, I've got half of it down!

"But, these strong women characters?"

"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon

PHOENIXROSE

Saturday, July 22, 2006 9:29 AM (P)

Oh, I'm certain it's a picture of a real sign, because I've seen the picture before, but saying something different. It has simply been PhotoShopped. Quite skillfully, too, I admire whoever managed it. I can make elaborate things in PhotoShop, but it's those simple-looking things that usually trip me up.

Yeah, I've got half of it down, too... used to think I had the other half. Man that bites.

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MAGDALENA

Saturday, July 22, 2006 9:33 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Whitefall:
Lol, that sign is awesome. Couldnt decide whether it was real till I took a close look at the screws. They aint detailed enough.

Nah, happiness is one of those sickeningly upbeat songs, from you're a good man charlie brown.

Hmm... true love and firefly... well, I've got half of it down!

I too love the sign - well found Phoenix Rose - is it your handiwork or did you discover it somewhere? But you totally disillusioned me Whitefall... I thought it was real...
*sniffs in a pathetic manner*

If happiness is one of those songs from Charlie Brown do I get Xander doing his Snoopy dance??

Yeah - half way there here too... if that makes sense? Just watched Jaynetown, Our Mrs Reynolds, Out of Gas and Arial back to back ... who needs love?

Waiting to be picked up for dinner - a little thing we Aussies do called 'Christmas in July"...

Love - Magda x x

WHITEFALL

Saturday, July 22, 2006 9:37 AM (P)

WELCOME TO THE THREAD MAGDALENA!!! Lol we're kinda alonely.

I actually meant the actual musical by that name, "you're a good man charlie brown"... no snoopy dance for you! But I'll throw in a yellow crayon for free!

Lol, it seems like the imponderables thread sorta boils down to a bunch of lonely folk looking for company and a bunch of married folk cheering us up! Bah!

On the other hand there's all that philosophy and stuff.

"But, these strong women characters?"

"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon

PHOENIXROSE

Saturday, July 22, 2006 9:39 AM (P)

Magdalena!

Found the sign, sadly not my handiwork.

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WHITEFALL

Saturday, July 22, 2006 9:41 AM (P)

Maybe we should call the next thread- Imponderables, half way to happines.

Argh, Rose, been great, but now that Magdalena can keep you company sorta, I'm gonna slink away. I gotta get some sleep before I stay up for about 36 hours straight tomorrow.

Have a bearable remainder o' your shift!

"But, these strong women characters?"

"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon

MAGDALENA

Saturday, July 22, 2006 9:44 AM (P)

My own yellow crayon!!... it's more than I ever hoped for! Now I can have yellow crayon stories of my own to add to Willow and Xanders...!

Philosophy? I'm on my way to dinner, remember? It will involve drinking certain substances and lots of food etc... so if I disappear suddenly and then reappear (sometime later) in a slightly less-than-philosophical mood.. you'll understand I hope!

P.S. - You are right - the original quote is from "Twelvth Night" - another favourite of Willy Shakes works, but one I have never appeared in or workshopped myself...

I think it's something like - 'if music is food for love then let me pig out until I die or at least lose my appetite!'

Yeah - actually it's pretty depressing ... I think I need you guys to sort me out on the poetic stuff sometimes!

PR - are you at work at the moment? Or home afterwards?

Lovin' you both - Magda x x x

PHOENIXROSE

Saturday, July 22, 2006 9:45 AM (P)

Thanks! I'll try. I have the lovely Magdalena and a newfound Snoopy to keep me company!

*edit* See, she's posting while I am, too!
I'm at work, hon. For another... Three hours

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MAGDALENA

Saturday, July 22, 2006 9:59 AM (P)

Poor you - wish I could stay and talk for that long! I would but I think that crosses the scarily-obsessed-rather-than-loyal border when I phone to say I can't make long-held dinner plans in order to chat on the 'net!!

Still - when I do get home (once I've been there that is) I will hop back on line to say goodnight at least!

BTW - you know you told me about those sites/threads how to post cute little dancing thingies - I get way too caught up in the posting to just stop and read them! Still I have some time off soon so I might get around to it then! You will be the first to know when I have managed to learn that trick!! - promise!!

Just so you know I appreciated it an all!

love - Magda x x x

{edit} P.S. - thank you for my own little Snoopy Happy Dance! My cup runneth over! A yellow crayon AND a Snoopy dance! I love you guys!! Mwaaah - Magda x x x

PHOENIXROSE

Saturday, July 22, 2006 10:20 AM (P)

Ah, if only I could find a yellow-crayoned Snoopy dance!
Well, you enjoy your christmas dinner party whenever you get there, and maybe I'll see you later on, too!

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ODDSBODSKINS

Saturday, July 22, 2006 12:03 PM (P)

h'mmm, the thread so far got me thinking of something, not sure it's a true imponderable, but, do men and women kill time in differant ways?

TRISTAN

Saturday, July 22, 2006 1:52 PM (P)

Morning, all!
PR, thank you for creating the thread...turns out I can pop in for a little while today, but it would not have been long enough to set up a new thread...so, again, thank you!

I'll be back for sure on Monday.

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PHOENIXROSE

Saturday, July 22, 2006 1:55 PM (P)

Happy to, Tristan!

Killing time... That's a good question. I will kill time in about any way available to me, I don't tend to be picky. Unless I hate something But I think as there tends to be a lot of differing interests from person to person, it would be hard to tell if their gender had anything to do with such a broad range of choices.
Or maybe I'm babbling to kill time.

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MAGDALENA

Saturday, July 22, 2006 3:12 PM (P)

Yeah - same here - it's the art of procrastination that gets me! I will do anything as long as it prevents me from doing something else!! (like I watched 4 episodes of Firefly today instead of putting the washing out to dry!)

Might be that being on this site is a form of killing time for me sometimes... but when it's 1am and I'm tired and have to get up in the morning I think it's really loyalty & procrastination in equal measures (though it might be madness pure and simple!)

Mwaaah - Magdalena x x

ODDSBODSKINS

Saturday, July 22, 2006 3:12 PM (P)

well that's more what i was thinking, not so much what we do in our spare time, but what we do when we've got, say, an hour to kill before going somewhere, and nothing particular to do, just thought it'd be interesting to see if there were any patterns or trends like.

i tend to browse forums, but then in this context that's a no-brainer and fairly surely non-gender specific, so i guess i'd have to say either reading, or doodling somewhere, or if it's a long enough time to kill (week on annual leave for example) spend my afternoons either reading or doodling, but in nice coffee shops (or nice chocolate shops, found one specialising in chocolate, and more chocolate, if a cup or (gorgeous) tea and death by chocolate is your thing, this is the place )or like now, rambling very vaguely about a specific subject without saying anything of substance

MAGDALENA

Saturday, July 22, 2006 3:43 PM (P)

Yeah - I love a good coffee shop and fortunately Melbourne (sorry... 'New Melbourne') has oodles of them!!!

I also found a gorgeous shop specialising in chocolate - both the eatin' & the drinkin' kind! Their chilli hot chocolate is to die for on a cold winters day! I just don't get to go there often enough!

Reading has always been a popular passtime for me - as has sleeping (I can nap anywhere - even on a bumpy, unpadded jeepney, crossing the mountains in the Philippines! True!) Writing - I keep several diaries intermittently! - and uh - watching DVDs ... have 'seen' (or had on in the background) all 3 'Back to the Future' films, 'I Robot', 'Pride and Prejudice', 'Serenity' (dur!), 'War Games' (matthew Broderick was a baby!!) and 'Pirates of the Carribean' in the last week alone! ... sad isn't it?

Anyway - I have put it off long enough - I love you all but I must leave you - "Good night, good night, parting is such sweet sorrow...."

Lovin' y'all heaps! - Magda x x x

ODDSBODSKINS

Saturday, July 22, 2006 3:53 PM (P)

m'm, this place does chili hot chocolate too, my flatmate's taken to keeping it around the place at all times ^^

can appreciate the sleeping anywhere thing, managed to fall asleep in the back of a four-ton truck going over a mountain when i was in cadets but mostly just tend to zone out and daydream, but can get pretty close to actual sleep when i'm doing that i've got to confess.

can't say as i do the same with films though, i mean i love films, but i don't tend to watch them in the background, either i'm watching a film or i'm not (not good with interuptions when i am come to that).

damn, no trend at all so far

WHITEFALL

Saturday, July 22, 2006 4:38 PM (P)

Well, I'm back, but not for long, gotta to the little details of packing... then i'll be outta the world for a spell, and it'll probably be awhile before we get through the usual pleasantries before it's recognized we're bored enough for me to use the internet.

Rose, sorry about abandoning you! Sleep is important for us non-night shift folk.

Kill time... well... basically I kill time all the time playing stupid computer games with no meaning that I only occassionally find fun. Meh. My sisters tended to read a ton instead, it's a debate (ok, I'm the only one on my side) which is worse. Stupid computer games.

Lol, wish I could sleep anywhere, like for example, transatlantic flights. That'd be nice. O well, 36 hour day, here I come.

"But, these strong women characters?"

"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon

SMARTBUTDUMBBLONDE

Saturday, July 22, 2006 5:39 PM (P)

Oh my! I have never seen a thread so short! I must jump in headfirst and take advantage of this oppurtunity!!
I finished school yesterday for 6 whole weeks! WHOO! *Victory dance* and Munkyfest is coming up soon! (mental note to self: must buy tickets)

Killing time: depends on how long I have to kill. I can do this weird thing where I sit don't think about anything, then I'll sart agin, like two hours later, and be like: "woah, where did all time go?" I read a loads, or if its a long time, I'll watch a dvd.
I watched Serenity the other day, and as always, cried, and my sister, who was watching too, made fun of me, then laughed at poor Wash, so I told her she was dead inside and an insult fest ensued! Then I watched Serenity the pilot and came up with a great idea for a sort of sequel to my Operative fic.

Speaking of books, what book are you reading at the moment? Or, if you can think that far back, what are the last 3 books you read?
I read loads, when I'm on holiday, we're talking at least one adult book per day, and 2 teenage ones.

I love that sign! Pity It's not real, though I'm not sure if this one is or not...

98% of teens have smoked pot, if you are one of the 2% that haven't, copy this into your signature

SMARTBUTDUMBBLONDE

Saturday, July 22, 2006 5:49 PM (P)

Mine are: Pirates by Celia Rees, Blood Memory by Greg Iles and A Time to Kill, actually, that is good, because my favourite types of books are courtroom dramas, detevtive thrillers and period books where women rebel.

98% of teens have smoked pot, if you are one of the 2% that haven't, copy this into your signature

WHITEFALL

Saturday, July 22, 2006 5:51 PM (P)

Enjoy your time off SBDB, i'll be across the Irish Sea from you for the next week.

Ah you crazy brits and your tiny vacations. (Nah, just kidding I know yours are more evenly spaced out.) The American summer vacation use to be near 3 months, but they've been shortening it on both sides, it's much closer to 2 now. Which is... lol, only 2 or 3 more weeks than you get. Damn you brits, always doing things smarterer. Love the brits!

"But, these strong women characters?"

"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon

SMARTBUTDUMBBLONDE

Saturday, July 22, 2006 6:03 PM (P)

hahaha! thanks Whitefall, love you too! Americans do entertainment a million times better than us. apart from the unbeatable Top Gear, i can't remember the last time I watch an English show. Its all reality.
In primary school, we got 5 weeks in the summer, and 2 weeks at whit, which was good, because we got to spend 2 weeks in Sark, but now, one week at whit, 6 in the summer. You crazy Americans and your great long holidays: my cousin lives over the pond and she gets 12 weeks in the summer!
Anywho, hope you have a great big fun time in Ireland!!!

98% of teens have smoked pot, if you are one of the 2% that haven't, copy this into your signature

PENGUIN

Saturday, July 22, 2006 6:07 PM (P)

I've just started "Finding Serenity...Anti-heros, Lost Shepards and Space Hookers in Joss Whedon's Firefly".

So far it's great!

SMARTBUTDUMBBLONDE

Saturday, July 22, 2006 6:11 PM (P)

really? I've been umming and ahhing for ages whether to get that, I'll have to put it on my wishlist, If you says its great. If I buy it and it isn't, I'm blaming you!

98% of teens have smoked pot, if you are one of the 2% that haven't, copy this into your signature

WHITEFALL

Saturday, July 22, 2006 6:17 PM (P)

Read it awhile back.

While some of it is a bit outdated (Espenson has to restrain herself from talking about the movie, lol.) it's no less interesting. My favorite quote in a sick way is from the end of one of the essays, and goes something like this.

"If FOX hadn't canceled the show, we would not be eagerly awaiting the Firefly movie. Because the show would be beginning its fourth season."

Not exactly insightful, but damnit that one hurt.

P.S. Lol, never got where the "space hooker" phrase came from, but as it turns out, F** coined it in their trailers. Bastards.

"But, these strong women characters?"

"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon

SMARTBUTDUMBBLONDE

Saturday, July 22, 2006 6:43 PM (P)

Argh!! Damn you F**, Damn you too Hades!! 4th Season?? We could have found out what Book used to be, Things between Mal and Inara could have happened River could have got better without Miranda, Simon could have finally stopped offending Kaylee and there could have been mini crewmembers!
phhtt. Space Hooker. phhttt. Have you seen the F** trailer for Firefly on Youtube? there's a link for it on a recent thread, Its awful, Space Hooker for Inara and Mal was a "Space Cowboy" PHHHTTTT!

98% of teens have smoked pot, if you are one of the 2% that haven't, copy this into your signature

WHITEFALL

Saturday, July 22, 2006 7:03 PM (P)

That's the trailer I meant.

Plus, I told you it hurt.

"But, these strong women characters?"

"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon

SMARTBUTDUMBBLONDE

Saturday, July 22, 2006 7:25 PM (P)

Its a bit quiet today, isn't it....
*hums to self and twiddles thumbs*
I think I may go and watch "Robots"
Bye for tonight

98% of teens have smoked pot, if you are one of the 2% that haven't, copy this into your signature

WHITEFALL

Saturday, July 22, 2006 7:30 PM (P)

I'll be out of the world for a spell, in about half an hour. Somehow I cant get FFFnet when 30,000 feet up!

"But, these strong women characters?"

"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon

CALIFORNIAKAYLEE

Saturday, July 22, 2006 8:39 PM (P)

Oh you totally could, Whitefall, it'd just cost a bundle in in-flight dial-up fees. And require a laptop. So yeah, it'd cost a ton. So we'll forgive you.

Anyhow, just checkin in, since I'm killing time and all, lol. For killing time, I come here, play video games, read fanfiction, watch Firefly, watch shows recorded on the DVR, knit, and work. What can I say, I've got work on the brain. Just finished a bit, gunna go do a bit more (but it's fun stuff), while waiting for hubby to finish up his WoW stint. When he's done, I think we're going to the beach. Woohoo!

~CK

You can't take the sky from me...

13

Saturday, July 22, 2006 8:53 PM (P)

And everyone will have matching towels! And it won't be a rock, it'll be a rock...LOBSTER!!

Ahem. Sorry.

13

ODDSBODSKINS

Saturday, July 22, 2006 8:56 PM (P)

can lobsters mosh? or headbang?

CALIFORNIAKAYLEE

Saturday, July 22, 2006 8:57 PM (P)

I would believe headbanging, but moshing lobsters? I don't think it would look like much of anything.

~CK

You can't take the sky from me...

ODDSBODSKINS

Saturday, July 22, 2006 9:02 PM (P)

would they have to get prosthetic claw extensions to do the forefinger/pinky thing?

edit: *sniggers* lookit!

VINTERDRAKEN

Sunday, July 23, 2006 1:44 AM (P)

Just came home from a very long pirate movie marathon day. Just felt to say something, been away and quiet for two long ;)

You can’t stop the Signal.
Keep spreading the word about Firefly!

STINKINGROSE

Sunday, July 23, 2006 1:46 AM (P)

(Jumping in unexpectedly)
Nah, just open up the claw really wide and flail their antennae. Oh wait, they do that all the time...

I'm painting my kitchen to amuse myself. Okay I'm doing it because we've been here for almost 3 years and the cabinets are peeling, but it's quite amusing to realize you don't have adequate ventilation and your pupils are constricting in time with your headache. Let's hear it for box fans set to maximum!

As for entertainment US vs. UK, we've got plenty of reality shows over here too. If things haven't changed too much since I spent a semester in London you've definitely got better commercials.

If anyone is in Oxfordshire or thereabouts over the next 8 days and you see a group of Morris Men with American accents you've probably just met my hubby. No, you can't escape it no matter how far you move. The Morris will follow. Mine is an evil jingly laugh!

PHOENIXROSE

Sunday, July 23, 2006 3:03 AM (P)

Actually, I think Inara was referred to as a cosmic hooker in the F** trailer, but that's ok.
I mostly really enjoyed Finding Serenity, though there was one or two essays that made me scream "Did you actually WATCH the show you ?!?!" One in particular. But mostly it was very good. And I think it has a Chinese index in the back. Not that you can't find all the chinese translations online (several sites) but it's nice to have it in hard copy.

I expected to miss a bit more than that. That's ok, though
Hey, there's a new one! StinkingRose. Huh. Not sure if I like your handle or am offended by it

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STINKINGROSE

Sunday, July 23, 2006 3:37 AM (P)

It's another name for garlic.
Garlic is good.
Of course if you spend a week in a tent it could be literal I suppose...
Or if too much perfume were applied...
Or ate too much garlic...
Well it was on the spur of the moment and it tied into the fanfic I was trying to post.
That's as much apologising as I'm liable to do tonight, sorry.

Oops there I go again.

PHOENIXROSE

Sunday, July 23, 2006 3:45 AM (P)

Garlic? Huh. Learn something every day. Yes, yes garlic is good. Having chewed it up in raw form when I was sic, though, I can tell you it is easily overdone
There's a cute little imponderable. Who here would kiss someone if their breath reeked of garlic? If I really liked them, I probably would.

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PHOENIXROSE

Sunday, July 23, 2006 5:10 PM (P)

Um... bump?
I'm going to bed now.

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SERYN

Sunday, July 23, 2006 10:37 PM (P)

hello, i'm also going to bed soon - not very well at all. but i thought i'd poke my nose in.

I missed you all!

new imponderable - if your SO wore something that you thought looked really silly - a new hairdo or a bad colour in a dress or something, would you tell them?

Your robot reminds me of you. You tell it to turn it stops. You tell it to stop it turns. You ask it to take out the garbage it watches reruns of Firefly.
http://www.myspace.com/seryndippyt

SERYN

Sunday, July 23, 2006 10:40 PM (P)

and as for garlic breath. I survived an ex coming home and breathing guinness and chilli sauce fumes all over me (just) so i'f i like them enough i could cope with the garlic. 'sides, i love the stuff and its brilliant for the immune system.

Your robot reminds me of you. You tell it to turn it stops. You tell it to stop it turns. You ask it to take out the garbage it watches reruns of Firefly.
http://www.myspace.com/seryndippyt

PENGUIN

Sunday, July 23, 2006 11:07 PM (P)

Friends, Imponderables, countrymen...lend me your ears...

I have been asked to recruit a few of you to sell Amway...I mean a few of you to help FollowMal and others in the "Summer of Serenity" campaign. We have a list of active Firefly/Serenity forums and Yahoo! groups and would like to "assign" forums and groups to people to post at and help spread the word!

We don't have all the details worked out yet, but we would like to start sometime later this week. Please PM me if you are interested!

Thanks a bunch!

TALYNDERRE

Monday, July 24, 2006 12:36 AM (P)

An imponderable for you, from a newbie...

If I'm in love with a young woman (my age - I'm 21), and I don't get to see her very often, am I being selfish if I take her away from her parents for an extended period of time?

Unfortunately, we were high-school sweethearts, but she goes to college on the other side of the country from the Coast Guard Academy, which I attend. She is rarely home, even for the summer (being in France this summer as an exchange student) - and right now, I want her all to myself for the three beautiful weeks of leave I get before the school year starts again.

Only thing is, her parents want her home for those threee weeks, too - and they have been utterly unwilling to compromise, going so far as to issue my beloved girlfriend an ultimatum: spend the three weeks at home with them, or not be welcome at their house this summer.

I thought, with typical male cluelessness, "great! Now we get to spend the summer together!" but my girlfriend now feels herself caught. Personally, I figure that her parents are just shamelessley manipulating her, and it gets me pretty steamed, but since I've got a sort-of adversarial relationship with them, I can't really be unbiased.

Now I'm frustrated with my girlfriend (because she won't just make a decision), angry with her parents, and don't see this ending well for anyone. Why do things have to get so complicated, and is there some way to fix it all?

Semper Paratus, mac.

PHOENIXROSE

Monday, July 24, 2006 3:49 AM (P)

Mur. Ok, first, yes Seryn I would tell someone if I thought they looked silly. I could hardly keep myself from laughing if I thought they looked really silly, and it would be more polite to just say something.
Second, TalynDerre, that sounds like a heck of a situation. My advice, from my personal perspective, would be to back off a little bit.
This sounds counterintuitive, I know. But just listen. Right now your girl is feeling trapped, caught between you and her parents. I understand you wanting to spend as much time as possible with her because I am that way, too. But the best course of action would be to let her decide what to do. And suggest a compromise to her rather than to her parents. Say "Sweetie, I'd like to see you every other day at the very least, so please try to work that with your folks." and be all sweet and understanding about it so she wants to spend more time with you than with her unreasonable and manipulative parents. Don't ask her to choose, just give her every reason to choose you.
If you can't do that, then just avoid yelling at her about it. Tell her how you're feeling and be as reasonable as possible. Long-distance relationships are hard enough without adding tension. You don't want this to end badly, you don't want to spend time away from her while you're both steaming about this. Trust me.

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CALIFORNIAKAYLEE

Monday, July 24, 2006 5:04 AM (P)

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if your SO wore something that you thought looked really silly...

Hubby and I just got back from clothing shopping (woo!), and the last purchase of the day was a pair of very silly sunglasses for hubby. I told him that they made him look like Miami Vice, but apparently that's come back around to not being a bad thing (thank you, Colin Ferrell and Jamie Foxx). He was so excited about them -- like a kid with a new toy -- that I finally caved and "let" him get them. But that doesn't mean I didn't giggle at him the whole way home.

Talyn, I'm not quite sure what to say to your situation, other than, I've been there myself. I think there's something weird with high school sweethearts, where each other's parents rarely seem to approve. My parents hated my boyfriend in high school, and pulled a lot of the same things your girlfriend's parents are. Except, it turned out they were right. He was a clinically depressed, manipulative, compulsive liar. Now I kinda wished I'd listened to them earlier, heh. OTOH, my parents were high school sweethearts, and there was tension between them and my grandparents, right up through when my parents got married. 26 years later though, and it's all long since blown over.

But for this situation specifically, I tend to agree with PR. I think you should tell your girlfriend how you feel about *her* -- not about her parents -- and then emphasize that it's her choice, and that your feelings about her won't change no matter what she chooses. If you can do that, you need to be prepared for her to choose to spend those three weeks with her parents.

IMO, the more stress you add to the situation, the worse it'll end. If you, like her parents, ask her to choose -- which is totally unreasonable, adults can and should have healthy relationships with both romantic partners and their parents -- neither out-come is very good. She could choose you, but damage her relationship with her parents, and might resent you later for that. Or she could choose her parents, and damage things with you. Is it any wonder she's having trouble making the choice?

If you tell her that you miss her and you love her (assuming you're to that point) and that you'd like to see her, but that you aren't going to force her to choose, then you'll be relieving stress from the situation. Her parents apparently don't think that you two have a very mature relationship, and treat your girlfriend like she's still a teenager. So show them how wrong they are. If you want this relationship to continue to grow and to last for a long time, being the mature one (as opposed to her parents) is definitely the way to go.

That said... If there's some reason you haven't mentioned that's making her parents be this unreasonable -- differences of race or religion that don't bother you and your girlfriend but bother her parents, for instance... Well then, that changes the situation. If her parents are saying "We forbid you from seeing that boy because he is ___ and we are not," then maybe you two should decide, calmly, maturely, as a couple, that you'll be better off without them in your lives. But that is a very difficult, and likely irreversible decision to make.

~CK

You can't take the sky from me...

WHITEFALL

Monday, July 24, 2006 7:54 AM (P)

Wheee! Whitefall, back in action, on N. Irish time, and loving his tech-savvy uncle's family.

Ok, so..... to the situation at hand: Talyn... though clearly it wasnt across the country, i've done some... some travel-time based relationships with folk, and they're are always awkward, be they friend, cousin (all of them are in the UK lol, how's that for travel-time from California), or (i'd imagine) lover.

I gotta agree with Rose (not to be confused with Stinkingrose, lol) and CK on the subject. Your girlfriend is making a really awful descision, the absolute best thing you could do imo, is to relieve her of that burden, be the self-sacrificing one, and ask her to go to her parents', because you don't want to see her hurt (breaking up with lovers is one thing, parents is something else). Email her every day if you want, but don't turn yourself into enemy #1 with her parents: eventually she'll want their counsel, shes known them longer than you most like.... Bottom line, you're her friend, bail her out.

P.S. Dang% British£ Key@!~£boards!!!

"But, these strong women characters?"

"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon

PHOENIXROSE

Monday, July 24, 2006 7:59 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Whitefall:
Dang% British£ Key@!~£boards!!!

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WHITEFALL

Monday, July 24, 2006 8:08 AM (P)

Lol, .

Just every time I tried to type # or @ or anything, I got it wrong. Just made stuff take longer.

"But, these strong women characters?"

"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon

PHOENIXROSE

Monday, July 24, 2006 8:18 AM (P)

I'm sure. Just imagining the differences made me laugh. I find odd, real-life situations very amusing. As Hobbes says so well; otherwise I might not be able to respond to much of life.

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WHITEFALL

Monday, July 24, 2006 8:21 AM (P)

This is perfect Rose, now that I'm on UK time I can keep you company w/o falling asleep! (Because I'm diurnal. Um. Not because posting is boring or nothing...)

Edit: Ok, i'm off for now, but lol, here's a tidbit: Maybe it's just this comp, but this astounding british keyboard can rotate the screen 90 degrees in all directions at the touch of a button! Funny stuff.

"But, these strong women characters?"

"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon

TRISTAN

Monday, July 24, 2006 1:02 PM (P)

Morning, all!
Another Monday...why do these things seem to show up every week?

Doesn't look like I missed too much, which is good...it'll be easier to get caught up.

Killing time...I like to do things with my hands. Get you minds out of the gutter...I mean create something; be it armor or clothing or something along those lines.

If SO was wearing something "silly". I would tell her, if I thought it would cause embarassment to her.

TalynDerre, follow the advice of the ladies here...they know what they are talking about!

Alright, off to find coffee and then I will be back.

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SPACEANJL

Monday, July 24, 2006 1:21 PM (P)

I'm back! Kind of. I still haven't sorted the timezones, but it's nearly half-two afternoon here as I post, so I don't know what that makes it in PR world.

Laughing at people wearing silly things? My husband wears lycra cycling gear. Nuff said.

DESKTOPHIPPIE

Monday, July 24, 2006 1:27 PM (P)

I grew up in the 80's and early 90's. I have absolutely no stones to throw when it comes to wearing silly stuff.

PHOENIXROSE

Monday, July 24, 2006 2:08 PM (P)

You posted at 7am in PR world, which is technically morning but actually my evening since I'm up all night.
OK, I'm even confusing myself.
High-five me, though; I have worked out today! Yay!

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RUGBUG

Monday, July 24, 2006 3:34 PM (P)

Ah, it's monday and the only reason I am happy is that it means I get to sit in Air conditioned splendor instead of facing this blistering heat wave. We just aren't set up for upper 90s in my town.....

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Laughing at people wearing silly things? My husband wears lycra cycling gear. Nuff said.

Does he wear it while riding a bike or just because he feels like it?

I've got a soft spot in my heart for silly sport specific clothing. I've done the cycling thing and currently compete on a dirty animal in what amounts to a suit coat and khakis. The epitome of silly.

Idle time: I can waste time with the best of them. I'll watch movies or putter or read a magazine.

Latest books:

1. Current: "Seven Season of Buffy: Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers Discuss Their Favorite Television Show" (Not nearly as good as "Finding Serenity")
2. Running With Scissors
3. Pride and Prejudice (again)

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FUTUREMRSFILLION

Monday, July 24, 2006 3:39 PM (P)

PR

Being 42 - if this is the meaning of life, then someone was taking the mickey!

one of the Forsaken TM

SPACEANJL

Monday, July 24, 2006 3:46 PM (P)

RugBug - husband is a cyclist, not a perv

I used to fence - that stuff looks really odd, breeches and little white coats.

Leisure pursuits - I'll read anything, and failing that, write my own. Films are eye-candy - I don't do meaningful cinema, though I have got a copy of 'Metropolis' to watch.

PHOENIXROSE

Monday, July 24, 2006 3:49 PM (P)

It's entirely possible that Mr Adams did not stear entirely clear of substances in his life; I never knew the man. Though from a lot of what he said his drink of choice was tea.

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NVGHOSTRIDER

Monday, July 24, 2006 4:40 PM (P)

Mornin' all.

Gonna do some jakkin' for a sec.

Ms. Questionable just called asking about the kids and their case (info needed for her office). Figures I could help get info for her,(My mom is very busy). Gonna call her back in a minute to tell her to deal with my mom. Heart is still racing. I just want out of this whole non-ordeal. Can't stand it anymore!

"Better dead and cool
Than alive and uncool."

DESKTOPHIPPIE

Monday, July 24, 2006 4:44 PM (P)

I've got no advice to give you, NVG, so I hope a *hug* helps.

NVGHOSTRIDER

Monday, July 24, 2006 7:29 PM (P)

Tryin' again (tenth try)

Made the call. She is just as confused as I am (and busy).
Liked the fact I told her about the confusion and the pondering about her. Told her that its been a very long time that any woman has confused and excited me so. She liked that too. More info to follow (maybe).

"Better dead and cool
Than alive and uncool."

TRISTAN

Monday, July 24, 2006 7:31 PM (P)

NVG, I've got my digits crossed for you, bro!

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NVGHOSTRIDER

Monday, July 24, 2006 8:27 PM (P)

I feel much better now. Feel so good that I may run right out and ask some cute girl to dinner. Been peeking around a little. Tried looking last night, but that damn tight jawed feeling came back. I figure it this way...
Ms. Questionable has been seein' some guy on and off for a few months. She did apologize profusely for all of the crap. I think she wants to be controlled. I have no desire to control anyone but myself, thats work enough.
She told me how much she values the time we've had. That I made her laugh. And she shared the feeling I had about not thinking or worrying about stuff despite the fact we'd been talking about them.
I feel that little a friendship will come out of this whole thing. I want more, but only with someone willing to meet me in the middle. Time will tell.

"Better dead and cool
Than alive and uncool."

NVGHOSTRIDER

Monday, July 24, 2006 9:10 PM (P)

Moved this from the rant thread. I got a very mean glare from a woman at Wal-mart the other day.
It ain't my gorram fault she fell out of her shirt and I looked. Didn't even realize until ten minutes later what I'd seen or what the glare was for. Need less to say I might have commented on her nice parts and walked away, but thats besides the point. I saw boob and didn't even enjoy it (at the time). Good thing my nephew wasn't there, he'd a said somethin'. (He likes boobies and says so when certain commercials are on TV).
So, I do feel bad for the woman, but common sense will tell you that you can't wear a tank top and no bra without folks noticing. Especially if the damn tank top don't fit well anyways. Kinda pissed now. Think I'll get some soda.

"Better dead and cool
Than alive and uncool."

SERYN

Monday, July 24, 2006 9:49 PM (P)

oh! i'm reading pride and predjudice too! for like, the 9th.... ... ...11th time. I adore that book.

Well, i say i'm reading it, but yesterday in work one of my co-workers (i'll have moaned about him before more than likely) picked it up and was on chapter 11 by the end of the day. He'd never read 'classic' literature before, but got right into it, only had to ask me to clarify one point and then nervously came and asked me if one of the sisters died before the end (awww, bless). So i didn't have the heart to take it home with me and deny him.

What surprised me most was my reaction. I was all astonishment. He went rapidly up in my estimation, but still, i was surprised that he, a bloke, a boy really, would read it.

ok, so he's a little bit gay. Well, actually he's straight, but we all thing he's in denial. And the gay gallery attendant hopes so. But still, i've never known any other man to read it. Most men i've tried to interest (she is after all, one of the best social saitirists ever) have shuddered at the thought.

I never realised it but i do think that i classify it as a 'girls' book - the proto mills & boon if you will. And while its never felt strange to me to read very masculine books - Micheal Marshal Smith, China Mieville and Bernard Cornwell are three faves that spring to mind, I can't remember a single instance of a man i know picking up a girl book - a Katie Fforde or a Jackie Collins or whatever.

So, i though i would bring it up to be pondered over.

Now, This one had to be bought out and shown to the world.
Everybody - say thank you Arcadia. http://www.myspace.com/seryndippyt

NVGHOSTRIDER

Monday, July 24, 2006 10:04 PM (P)

Seryn, um, kinda difficult to not think gay when you've got the three reasons to watch Firefly flashing on your sig. Seriously, I have a mancrush on Mal. And nothing could keep me from drinkin' and fightin' with Jayne. But the poor unfortunate would be made my bitch if I swung in that direction.
As for your pondering; I might read some of those chick books. Better than TV. At least there is nudity and sex (I have a good imagination). Even the classics make for some bothersome moments in the pants at the library.
Sorry if I sound a bit rough around the edges. I am having a good day and would like to keep it going. Just trying to get the flash of Mal's man ass out of my head. Now I just can't stop laughing.

"Better dead and cool
Than alive and uncool."

WHITEFALL

Monday, July 24, 2006 10:05 PM (P)

Hey, I read pride and prejudice, and i prefer the womenfolk! I read it for school, but then, I picked it, so. Still, I read it.

It sorta confused me originally tho. However, I saw the play of it a few months back, the whole thing felt a ton more cohesive. Tis a good book tho.

"But, these strong women characters?"

"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon

RUGBUG

Monday, July 24, 2006 10:06 PM (P)

Seryn: Jane Austen is my favorite author with Mansfield Park being my favorite of her books, but I do love them all.

How could you place Austen in the same category as Jackie Collins? I won't even read that. Austen is classic, Collins is fluff.

But I am surprised that your friend is reading P&P. It's a bit girly, but how would you classify other classics? Many, even those written by men, are of a "softer" bent.

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SIMONWHO

Monday, July 24, 2006 10:18 PM (P)

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Originally posted by seryn:
Most men i've tried to interest (she is after all, one of the best social satirists ever) have shuddered at the thought.

I was made to read it at University but couldn't get through it. Skip forward 7 years and I pick up a copy out of vague interest in reading something "improving" and was utterly delighted by it.

It's a great book - though it's strange that any story told from a woman's point of view is regarded as a "girl's" book. Perhaps it has just been marketed that way recently, what with the ladies swooning over Colin Firth in wet clothing and Bridget Jones's Diary. It's funny, intelligent and interesting throughout plus it is set in my favourite place: the England that never existed.

SERYN

Monday, July 24, 2006 10:22 PM (P)

I was going to add to that sentence about the possible reason most men don't read them is becuase they are rubbish, but i didn't want to offend anyone.

Austen is also my favorite author - mansfield park i love (have you seen the film adap.? I think they did a good job - NVG you'll like it too - theres sex in it!)but i find Fanny just a little irritating, I think P&P is my favorite - Elizabeth is just a wonderful character, and, I flatter myself - out of all Austens female characters i'm most like her, so it gives me hope that a Darcy will show up one day (if thats not the absolute most stupidest thing i've ever written).

Anyway, I'd say things like Dickens, Hardy, Homer etc are the unisex ones, and writers like Scott (Ivanhoe) and Stevensen (Treasure Island) are more male.

Its completely wrong of me to think like this, but i never realised i did until yesterday - and now i can set about changing my mind.

Now, This one had to be bought out and shown to the world.
Everybody - say thank you Arcadia.

http://www.myspace.com/seryndippyt

RUGBUG

Monday, July 24, 2006 10:31 PM (P)

Yep, I've got the movie of Mansfield Park (and the others: S&S, Emma, Clueless). Only thing I didn't like about it was what appeared to be interjection regarding Sir Thomas Bertram and his extra-curricular activities with the slaves.

Simonwho: You do know that Bridget Jones is a retelling of Pride and Prejudice, right? Colin Firth is sexy until you watch him kissing someone. He just DOES NOT look like he's a good kisser.

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SERYN

Monday, July 24, 2006 10:45 PM (P)

yes, the extracurricular with the slaves was uncalled for - it had no bearing on the story and seemed to only be there for shock value.

yes i do. But only insofar as girl, constantly embarressed by her mother, has to choose between charming rogue and uptight good guy.
Bridgit is no Lizzie, infact she irritates me to hell.
I personally can't identify with this woman that she's meant to be - the thrity something neurotic singleton or who ever, i know no one like that - and i was living in london at the time, where they're all meant to be. I just find her daft and irritating.

Someone needs to go to hollywood and teach all of these actors how to kiss on camera - no matter how gorgeous they are, they can't kiss for crap.

Personally i volunteer for that job. I honestly cant remember the last time i saw a couple kissing on screen and really wanted to be kissed like that.

actually, yes i can - Amelie. He was french - does that make a difference do you think?

Another imponderable - does anyone have first hand experience to prove or disprove these nationality stereotypes, as lovers in the widest sense i mean.

Now, This one had to be bought out and shown to the world.
Everybody - say thank you Arcadia.

http://www.myspace.com/seryndippyt

ODDSBODSKINS

Monday, July 24, 2006 10:55 PM (P)

never read Pride and Prejudice i have to confess, my reading in classical social satire got to vanity fair before i discovered present day satire and fell in love trying to think of books i read recently written from the PoV of a female protagonist, all fun and games 'til somebody looses an eye i suppose, although, that probably counts as more neutral, erm, some Rose Tremain i think, maybe?

could be i'm less in tune with me feminine inner-literary-critic then the other bodies that've posted here

NVGHOSTRIDER

Monday, July 24, 2006 10:59 PM (P)

Funny, I can't seem to find a memorable screen kiss in my head for the life of me.
Question: Do y'all remember your first real grown up kiss? Mine was with a girl I'd known my whole life and almost married. Eyes open. Holding hands. Outside standing navel to navel. Think I have a complex about it now. Whats the point in jumping out of a plane if you ain't gonna look?

Seryn- Careful with the French thing. Tristan may have a few things to say about the French. Mine is purely an American dislike for haughty folk who hate Americans. His is from experience.

"Better dead and cool
Than alive and uncool."

NVGHOSTRIDER

Tuesday, July 25, 2006 12:08 AM (P)

Well folks, gotta be out for the day. Love y'all. Good night.

"Better dead and cool
Than alive and uncool."

MSG

Tuesday, July 25, 2006 1:14 AM (P)

oh sure now that I can finally post, you all go home! Anyway, I missed you guys today. At least my problems are over so big HUGS and such to all and sundry
NV- you are in fine form today darlin and that's great to see...glad ms. whatever situation is done and mostly settled..now go find some hot , sweet, wild thing who appreciates you!

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

JAMESTHEDARK

Tuesday, July 25, 2006 3:07 AM (P)

Ain't spoke for a while, but then again, not much has changed. My job still sucks, I still have deep seated emotional issues, none of the drains in my house work (meaning no toilets, no baths, no shower, no nothin')...

Yeah, life ain't lookin' too shiny right about now. That and it's been cold, wet and miserable for near on a week. Leave it to me to get Seasonal Affective in the middle of gorram summer!

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PHOENIXROSE

Tuesday, July 25, 2006 5:38 AM (P)

I know I've seen some good screen kisses, but I can't bring them to mind right now.
Kissing never looks as good as it feels anyway
My first "grown-up" kiss... Eurgh. That's an unpleasant story. Not the kiss, but the story. I was sixteen and crushed on this guy pretty hard for awhile. He finally noticed, sort of asked me out, and we had a mini makeout session in a deserted hallway. Romantic, huh? Couple days later, he decided he really wasn't all that interested in me. He was a but definitely a good kisser. The only people I've kissed who were better at it than him were ladies

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WHITEFALL

Tuesday, July 25, 2006 7:46 AM (P)

I've never really considered the validity of screenkisses. Having never done such things myself, can't say I have much to compare to.

I'm not sure which is worse, all these sordid pasts, or that I got nothing to compete with em.

"But, these strong women characters?"

"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon

SPACEANJL

Tuesday, July 25, 2006 10:15 AM (P)

Can't ever get enthused by face-sucking, unless it really means something in the context of the plot. I have no interest in watching other people having fun - it's like an invasion of privacy. It really ticks me off when a film decides to just have a random 'booty shot' or whatever, for no other reason than to show skin. What I liked about Zoe and Wash was the very natural feel of their relationship.

Oddly enough, I'm better with reading than watching - I think that what goes on in someone's head is more interesting. Imponderable - I read somewhere that this is more of a female thing, engaging the brain rather than the eye. A woman can be attracted to a guy who is not conventionally good-looking, but has a sexy mind or character. Any thoughts?

PHOENIXROSE

Tuesday, July 25, 2006 10:26 AM (P)

I have been very attracted to people of both genders who weren't really conventionally attractive; I just adored them. On the other side of the coin, there have been a few people who were incredibly attractive until they opened their mouths, and after that I couldn't feel that attraction again. And of course sometimes I think someone is attractive and then they open their mouths and I just have to forcibley restrain myself from squeezing them.
So yes, for me, the mind is the most important thing when it comes to both attraction and sex.
Of course, someone can be very intelligent but have oposite opinions from me. I can respect their opinions a little easier, but I don't want to be around them. So it's also compatability coupled with intelligence (or whatever).
I hope that made sense

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SPACEANJL

Tuesday, July 25, 2006 10:41 AM (P)

Perfect sense, PR. Gorgeous, but the personality of tofu, does not do it for me. There are some pretty people as just need a smack.

Thought husband was cute when I first met him, and then he mentioned a very obscure book that I had also read, and we kinda took off from there.

Once dated a guy who was compatible every other way, but utterly uninterested in food. It was just fuel to him. So obviously that was never gonna work...

TRISTAN

Tuesday, July 25, 2006 1:13 PM (P)

Good morning, all!
Sorry about yesterday; I was very busy at work and didn't have too much time to post. Hopefully, today will be a bit different.

Never really been a fan of onscreen coupling. Most of them seem a bit too perfect. Heck, in real life, bits get knocked against other bits, there are the ocassional "oops, sorry" moments, and usually a lot more passion. Same goes for screen kisses. I have seen a few (no movie titles coming to mind...still too early to think) onscreen kisses that seemed "real" and convincing, but I agree with the rest of you on that part.
I have also been attracted to some SO's regardless of looks. Honestly, I would rather have an intellect than the perfect body and face. However, the two do ocassionally meet in the same package. Case in point: my wife!

Alright, off to get coffee...hopefully this thread will jump today.

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RUGBUG

Tuesday, July 25, 2006 2:27 PM (P)

If a screen kiss works, it is usually because I like the character and not just because it's a sexy kiss. For example, I think Ewan MacGregor has some incredible screen kisses. There are some others that I can think of that work for me, but I wouldn't want to give away just what a cheesy hopeless romantic I really am.

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TRISTAN

Tuesday, July 25, 2006 2:30 PM (P)

Ah, I missed one.
SpaceAnJL, you brought up the male/female eye/brain thing. I've had this discussion before IRL with friends...we have come to a few conclusions. Mind you, these are all generalizations that hold true to most of the population, but not all.
Males are much more into the "visual"; things we can observe and not really have to ponder. Females are more into interpreting things their own way; taking in information and translating using their own guides. This means men would rather curl up with the remote while women would rather curl up with a book. It's also why men can somtimes have a longer attention span; ie watching sports, hunting, etc., but are sometimes hindered when it comes to drawing obscure conclusions.
Again, this does not apply to all men or women at all times. As we are a diverse species, there is never going to be a "law" that applies to all members of a sex.
Any other observations along these lines?

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MSG

Tuesday, July 25, 2006 4:02 PM (P)

Morning all-
I've seen some on screen moments that had that great realism ( David Caruso in Jade near the end ), but generally I know how awkward they are to film and I just end up wondering stuff like how contorted are they and I wonder where his left hand is...and in the case of Underworld 2 is it possible to have sex with someone's navel?

with the difference with male/female in amusng oneself...what does it say about me that I read a book and watch t.v. simultaneously ( oh yeah right that I have ADD)

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

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