THE FORSAKEN - Happy Naked Pagan Dance
POSTED BY: PhoenixRose
UPDATED: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 19:41
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I thought we should take a little trip to Stonehenge, get back to basics with the dancing and... uh, stuff. You know, s'mores and dancing and eating and fire.
Also, this might end up being a safe haven from stampeding llamas. And if not, I have TNT.
*plunges headfirst into a totally random vat of melted chocolate*
Oh, that is good stuff.
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Previous threads:
THE FORSAKEN - We Aim to Burn http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=11&t=20830
THE FORSAKEN - And Burn We Shall http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=11&t=21018
THE FORSAKEN - Fired Up http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=11&t=21068
THE FORSAKEN - Watch How We Burn http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=11&t=21172
THE FORSAKEN - River Styx http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=11&t=21244
THE FORSAKEN 666 - Party in the Pit http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=11&t=21297
THE FORSAKEN - City of Dis http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=11&t=21336
THE FORSAKEN - Ring of Fire http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=11&t=21389
THE FORSAKEN - Burnin' in the Malebolge http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=11&t=21466
THE FORSAKEN - Cocytus http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=11&t=21697
THE FORSAKEN - Dante's Got Nothin' On Us http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=11&t=21811
THE FORSAKEN - The Special Hell http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=11&t=21888
THE FORSAKEN - Embrace the Fire http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=11&t=22034&m=334853#334853
THE FORSAKEN - Hell's Bells http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=11&t=22127
THE FORSAKEN - Here There Be Dragons http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=11&t=22264#341889
THE FORSAKEN - Fire Down Below http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=11&t=22384
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What a wonderful setting for our new digs! I'm going to stone henge in a week. And to a naturist event coincidentally (although not both at the same time!) Never taken my clothes off in public so am a bit nervous but my friend is really into it and she's paying for my naked spa experience so why not!
Mmm, melted chocolate swimming pool. Great idea PR!
I HOPE the llamas don't find it. Yuck! Sticky hair!
Hang on, what's that sound of trotting hooves I hear?
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*secures the perimiter*
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Prepare to be filled with llama wisdom:
http://www.frolic.org/
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No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
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Woah man! That's some deep stuff.
My thoughts shall linger long on the line:
"They may say you cannot frolic. They may scorn you for frolicking in public places. I say, frolic by example, and others will follow suit."
You should stop blowing up the llamas PR, they have much to teach us. Meet my new llama guru.
Ooooommmmmmmmmmmm! Munch munch, spit.
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Originally posted by EmmaRigby:
you know, if you watch that for long enough, everything gets kinda blurry.
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I do not blow up llama gurus, only those llamas who would rampage through and spit in our chocolate.
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PR, I hate to tell you but one got past you. Oh well, I'm not picky, I'll still bathe in it!
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Quote:Can't we put them into a twelve step llama rehabilitation program instead? Get them to discuss why they spit in chocolate, help them back to the herd?
Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
I do not blow up llama gurus, only those llamas who would rampage through and spit in our chocolate.
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Good morning Forsaken!
"Llamas roasting on an open fire..."
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*glares at llamas for a moment, then decides to ignore them and dance, throwing sizzling chocolate everyhwere*
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Ah, experiences in public nudity. About eight years ago, I'm in a sauna, I go to sit sort of leaning back against the wall, everyone yells "DON'T SIT THERE!!!" Hmmm, yes, it is a trifle warm... Good job I was sitting back on my hands. The blisters took three weeks to clear up. Ouch.
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Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
I thought we should take a little trip to Stonehenge, get back to basics with the dancing
Careful it doesn't get trampled underfoot by the dwarfs...
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Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
I thought we should take a little trip to Stonehenge, get back to basics with the dancing and... uh, stuff. You know, s'mores and dancing and eating and fire.
There's something I need to say...er, type, um... Ok all I need to do is copy and paste it:
And we had the Pagans in Britain. You didn't really have the Pagans here. You had the Native Americans and it was much more of a warrior, aboriginal-type existence, and... we had the Pagans. They were into sex, death, and religion in an interesting night-time telly type of way. And we had the Druids! Long white robes, long white beards, early transvestites, didn't get their shaving together; and they built Stonehenge, one of the biggest henges in the world. No one's built a henge like that ever since. No one knows what the fuck a henge is! Before Stonehenge, there was Woodhenge and Strawhenge, but a big bad wolf came and blew them down, and three little piggies were relocated to the projects.
But they built Stonehenge, and it's built in an area called Salisbury Plain in the South of England. The area of Salisbury Plain where they built it is very ( eerie chanting ), ‘cause that's good, you know. It's a mystical thing; build it in a mystical area. You don't want to build it in an area that's, "yaa da daa da daa daa daa baa daa daa bup doh doh doh bup dee dee daa." No, there you build Trump Tower. But yeah, so they built it there. And the stones! The stones are 50 foot high, 30 foot long, 20 foot deep, and other measurements as well! And they’re not from ‘round there, that's the amazing thing! Remember, this is B.C. ( mumbles). This was before the B.C./A.D. changeover, when everyone was going, “Is it A.D. yet?” ( mimes adjusting watch ) You didn't have to wind your watch back, you had to get a new bloody watch! “Oh, it’s A.D., isn’t it? Fucking ‘ell!” And the Muslim people going, "A.D? Who's he?" Yes. ( hearty laugh from audience member ) Good laugh there!
So, yeah, the stones are from 200 miles away, in Wales, so these guys in Wales were obviously carving the rocks out of the very living mountain... "Fantastic, building a henge, are we? That's a fantastic idea! That's a marvelous religion the Druids have got! Yes, got a lot of white clothing, I like that. There we go!" And they smashed out a huge stone and then they put tree trunks down to roll it along on.
"All right, walk it along, here we go, here we go."
"Help you push 'em along? It's not far, is it?"
And the Druids going, "Heave, everyone, heave! Well done, everyone, you're doing very well! You'll love it when you see it. I've seen some of the drawings already, it's very special."
After 200 miles...
"You fucking bastards! You never told us 200 miles! 200 miles in this day and age - I don't even know where I live now! ( sighs ) I wish the Christians would hurry up and get here!"
And they set all the stones up and the Druids still there tinkering around going, "No, that stone and this one - can we swap them around?"
So that was the Pagans.
To get the full effect you need to see and hear it, but it needed to be said.
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Good night, Forsaken! I shall see you all later on!
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It is a sad sign of my current state of mental degredation that I had to read that aloud to an empty room in a bad Welsh accent and giggle a lot!
Even more worrying is why I felt compelled to create the following image.
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In ancient times, 'undreds of years before the dawn of 'istory, lived a strange race of people, the Druids. No one knows who they were, or, what they were doing, but their legacy remains, hewn into the living rock... of STONE'ENGE.
Sorry. I just can't think of Stonehenge without thinking of Spinal Tap. Just as I can't walk past the cereal bars at the supermarket without hearing that jingle in my head...
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Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
*glares at llamas for a moment, then decides to ignore them and dance, throwing sizzling chocolate everyhwere*
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PR, Are you into Wicca or goddess worship?
“I don’t know. This here’s a spectacle might warrant a moment’s consideration.”
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Funny thing is there was actually a woodhenge...
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And don't forget Carhenge!
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or the M6, as it's colloquially known...
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Britian has some of the biggest car parks in the world, makes you proud.
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Hey! Did you know that Chocolatehenge is actually a Googlewhack?! Gosh I'm bored. I had to try about 20 henge types before I found one.
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Originally posted by citizen:
Britian has some of the biggest car parks in the world, makes you proud.
yes indeed, never been feeling more patriotic then at this moment.
and, you know, i've never yet managed to find a googlewhack...don't have the attention span
all kudos to ya 
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Yeah, I was worried that writing chocolatehenge here would make it no longer a Googlewhack but apparently not so. There are photos of this magnificent structure. With dinosaurs of course (they will rule over all this henge...!)
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Originally posted by EmmaRigby:
With dinosaurs of course (they will rule over all this henge...!)
And they will call it ... This Henge.
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Funny thing about woodhenge though, it's made of stone, at least it is at the moment, used to be made of wood.
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*sits himself down to wait for the sudden yet inevitable betrayal*
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*BANG*
There's your betrayal!
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gorramit!
and yet it has such beauty in it's purpose...from chaos comes form, and, er, with purpose, pusposeful form...yus indeedly.
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Originally posted by SisterBettyX:
PR, Are you into Wicca or goddess worship?
Yes'm
I am a bona-fide Buddhist, Shaman, Earth-worshiping, Lord and Lady loving, wand-waving, incense-burning buffet Pagan!
*dances in happy little circles chanting "Isis! Isis! Ra Ra Ra!"*
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Ah, Egyptian, eh? Ahem.
ThothSetHorusOsirisAnubisQhebesnefHapi
At least from memory...
I like Hapi. Organ-guarding baboons unite!
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Isis, Horus and Osiris; the Original Holy Trinity.
Then the new Trinity went and made the "Mother" the "Holy Ghost" and therefore sexless 
Anyone read "Jesus and the Lost Goddess" or any of those? They make me sad. They're really good, but they make me sad. It explains all the symbolism and metaphors and basically what a great religion it could be if it were a little bit contemplative and how it was manipulated to control and... Oh it makes me sad.
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Here follows a rant.
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Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
Anyone read "Jesus and the Lost Goddess" or any of those? They make me sad. They're really good, but they make me sad. It explains all the symbolism and metaphors and basically what a great religion it could be if it were a little bit contemplative and how it was manipulated to control and... Oh it makes me sad.
I think it would have been a better religion if two things happened:
1 They stuck to what it said in the books, not what symbols they could steal from pagans or what ideologies they could make up on the side.
2 They preserved all of the books, not just the ones they liked, and taught their flocks to think for themselves and make up their own minds on which books should be listened to.
Did they do that? No, they threw out most of the books in a big, "Look at me I can vote and you can't," session they killed the people who disagreed with them, and then Pope Greg the Great came along with a bullshit story that everyone knew had no basis in any kind of fact, but what with all of the dissenters in that part of the world dead and the divine athority of the Pope he was able to, on his own, rewrite the gospel without changing any of the words but instead altering the meaning.
The catholic church has since come out and said, "Hey, Greg was just bullshitting you," (which is part of the reason I feel confidant that calling it bullshit shouldn't offend anyone) but the story remains.
That's the Magdaline story of course, call her a protitute for no apparent reason, have the majority believe it for the next few hundred years. The only reason it is possible is that people care more about what they are told the bible says than what it actually says.
That problem, I believe, comes from arrogance. People want to be able to leave their mark on the bible so they say, "This is what it says ... NO! don't read it. This it what it says, I'm telling you so you don't have to figure it out for yourself. Understand? Are you going to read it with that in mind and never question that? Ok, you can read it now."
The other problem comes from fear. People are afraid that if I let you read the Gospel of Thomas you'll believe it and not believe them. I don't know whether they believe the gospel was inspired by satan or whether they simply think you're so much stupider than them that you can't make the right judgement where they can, but if this really is about god why not let the people read everything there is to read and have god, if he doesn't like it, deal with it. A miracle isn't needed, just a strong feeling that this document isn't the right one. If god doesn't care enough about someone getting it right to either do that or make them able to figure it out on their own why should the person in question care about getting it right?
Ok, I'd like to close the rant on my thoughts about Mary Magdaline because I brought her up.
While it does say in one work Jesus "used to kiss her often on ____," which is an annoying place for a hole in the page if ever there was one, and her first reaction to seeing him alive provoked the response, "Do not cling to me," I don't really see the evidence for a relationship there other than what he had with the rest. I mean the kissing passage follows, "loved her more than all the disciples," and imedeately preceeds them asking, "Why do you love her more than all of us?"
To me that says that he loves her in the same manner as the disciples, whom he also kisses, but more. I don't see why love should mean christian sibling-like love to one group and husband-wife love to another when they only are said to differ by degree.
So I figure could they have been married, sure why not, but I really don't care.
Personally I'm more interested in her importance than her marital status, The DaVinci Code and other such works imply that the only important part of her was her womb, I doubt that.
She gets mentioned more than several of The Twelve combined, as near as we can tell she was an important figure in
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Don't be sad! Dance in the chocolate with the rest of us.
I've got to go catch up on the threads around here, since i've been gone for a while, but here's a vat of ice cream to go with the chocolatehenge. After all, you have to dip those in something (pulls out the Colosseum full of ice cream) There!
( dances off through the chocolate to find previous threads)
So who is he?
He's my husband.
Well who in the damn galaxy ain't!
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It wasn't just about screwing. That is a very cheap way of putting it. If you're going to look at the symbolism of it, Mary Magdalene was the Goddess to Jesus' God. She was the Lady to his Lord and the Yin to his Yang. She was the lost Goddess. Of course she was important.
The reason the Da Vinci code and the books it draws from puts emphasis on her womb, as you put it, is because they are of the opinion that it is the blood of Christ and the Magdalene that is the Holy Grail. Not only that, they are of the opinion that Jesus was a mortal man who loved and reproduced like a mortal man, which undermines the church's claim of his being divine.
At that time, not marrying would have been an offense to the Jewish faith, and Jesus was Jewish.
But the church took being "pure" and "virginal" and wrapped it all up with "divine". Just another guilt trip.
But here's the really extreme spin on it: these people more than likely never existed. No where in the Romans' extremely good records is there a mention of the crucifixion of anyone names Jesus. Just as nowhere is there evidence of the Egyptians having Jewish slaves who then wandered in the desert for 40 years. These stories are symbols. The number 40 represents basically "as long as it takes" and they are all stories of death and rebirth. It rained for 40 days and 40 nights and the world was reborn. Jesus went into the desert for 40 days and 40 nights and fought with satan (or his own demons) and came back enlightened. Moses wandered in the desert for 40 years, died, and another led them out of the desert. Every story is a metaphor for the lower consciousness dying and making room for the higher consciousness. The Buddha consciousness, the Christ consciousness, the Divine Spark, the Holy Ghost, Nirvana, whatever you want to call it it's all the same thing. There are so many stories of death and rebirth, dating back to the story of Isis, Horus and Osiris, and farther than that. They all mean the same thing, but the meaning gets lost because corrupt people say "take this literally so you think you can't touch the divine without assistance and we can control you" and the lazy people of the world say "Oh, okay."
That's why I say, if it was a little bit contemplative, it would be a lot better. The practitioners who are contemplative are better people than those who have handed their spirituality to someone else. Even when they don't quite get it, they still get it.
This is why I don't let any dictate what I should be or what I should think and believe. And why I think organizing religion is the beginning of the end for a lot of spirits. I avoid it like the plague, myself. I know it can have its benefits, but I still think the spirit should be personal.
On that note, I think I'll dip myself in the hot chocolate again, because this is The Forsaken and I can!
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Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
It wasn't just about screwing. That is a very cheap way of putting it. If you're going to look at the symbolism of it, Mary Magdalene was the Goddess to Jesus' God. She was the Lady to his Lord and the Yin to his Yang. She was the lost Goddess. Of course she was important.
But for her to be that they need never have had sex (certainly not kids) which is my point.
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The reason the Da Vinci code and the books it draws from puts emphasis on her womb, as you put it, is because they are of the opinion that it is the blood of Christ and the Magdalene that is the Holy Grail.
I am well aware of what it says, and of Sarah the Eygyptian, the dark child that was said to arrive on the shores of France with both Mary and Mary. I'm also aware of the significance of "dark" with respect to the bloodline Jesus was said to be a part of and the interesting timing of the Marys supposed stay in Egypt with respect to when a child of Jesus might be born.
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Not only that, they are of the opinion that Jesus was a mortal man who loved and reproduced like a mortal man, which undermines the church's claim of his being divine.
Of course the church also claims that Jesus was mortal, sort of like the whole "it's a particle and a wave" thing. Remember that The Council of Nicea didn't just kick out the things that denied the divinity of Jesus, they also threw out things that denied the mortality of Jesus.
All of those things that said, "Jesus was only divine," were kicked out.
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At that time, not marrying would have been an offense to the Jewish faith, and Jesus was Jewish.
That's actually under debate, there were certainly Jewish men of age who did not have wives at the time and were full of respect for the faith, however I agree that from what I know you are right that not mentioning his wife might have been like not mentioning his elbow, we might be meant to assume he has one unless explictly told otherwise.
However if he did have a wife what reason is there to believe she was Mary Magdalene, nothing mentions her as the wife of Jesus, and the thing that says companion also says that she is loved like the male followers of Jesus are, just more so, does that mean we should think... Ok, I'm going to stop now before I get killed for mentioning a heresy that I don't even hold to.
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But the church took being "pure" and "virginal" and wrapped it all up with "divine". Just another guilt trip.
No argument with their obession with virginal, look at all that has sprung up around that other Mary, look at the lengths they go to ignore the brothers and sisters of Jesus. However one must remember that evidence that the Church was uptight is not evidence that any spesific person was the wife of Jesus
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But here's the really extreme spin on it: these people more than likely never existed. No where in the Romans' extremely good records is there a mention of the crucifixion of anyone names Jesus.
That isn't quite true, for two reasons. The first is that the romans records are not extremely good. Of course I might be wrong, if I am please show me where the list of every crucifixion in the provences, to my knowldge no such things survive. I'm not even sure if they were made in the first place. Jesus was by all accounts a minor figure, in a minor provcence, who was only killed because it was making a fuss at riot season, not worthy of note in Rome.
What was worthy of note in Rome doesn't really survive consistantly either, there are plenty of things we know about only because someone says, "This is really good, you have to read it."
Certainly when Tactius wrote "Auctor nominis eius Christus Tibero imperitante per procuratorem Pontium Pilatum supplicio adfectus erat" he did not believe that the existance of Christ was in doubt, since he knew more about Roman record keeping than you or I think the argument based in lack of records has little grounding. It is,
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But for her to be that they need never have had sex (certainly not kids) which is my point.
If you will look at it as not necessarily being fact for a moment, I will tell you what is wrong with that.
Pagan turning of the season is marked by the God and Goddess and how they relate to each other. I think it's a little weird but remember that it is a symbol.
So first, in the spring, the Lord and Lady fall in love and a little later are handfasted, joined, or married, depending on the term you want to use. This involves sex, because the Goddess gets pregnant. There is happiness and joy all through summer. In the fall, the God dies, and is reborn through the Goddess on the winter solstice. Repeat.
That's simplified, but basically how it works. Most holy days even now are traced back to this.
So, in symbolic terms, especially if co-opting Pagan myths and traditions, Mary being the LAdy and Jesus being the Lord would involve a little sex. There are even some parallels in the story, especially her being the first to see him after he is reborn.
So, if you take the story as symbolic (which most religious stories should be, in my opinion) it would be the same story. The union of the Lord and Lady is very important because it gives rise to rebirth.
Plus, in the early Pagan-ish religions, sex was a spiritual act, a union with the divine, and not seen as wrong. This, I believe, is one of the many things that was co-opted, but it was twisted around the most out of anything else.
There is a lot more I could go in to on this whole subject, but now it is time for bed and no more thinking.
Oh, but if I were to subscribe to anything relating to Christianity, I would be Gnostic, yes. It would probably work quite well to be a Gnostic Buddhist Witch since the teachings are all the same at their core. But then, since that's true, I also don't technically need the Gnostic part.
'Night!
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I love Eddie Izzard! 
See Christhecynic's first pagan speech.
Deb
http://serendipityagain.com/
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Friends, Forsaken, countrymen...lend me your ears...
I have been asked to recruit a few of you to sell Amway...I mean a few of you to help FollowMal and others in the "Summer of Serenity" campaign. We have a list of active Firefly/Serenity forums and Yahoo! groups and would like to "assign" forums and groups to people to post at and help spread the word!
We don't have all the details worked out yet, but we would like to start sometime later this week. Please PM me if you are interested!
Thanks a bunch!
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Aren't my 14 banners enough?
I'll be happy to help, but I spend my life here, don't know if I have time to spend my life on other boards and forums.
I hate yahoo groups, though. I can never follow what they're talking about; it's a bad setup.
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trying my hand at an episode trailer...
morning Forsaken... anyone have a crazy weekend?
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I got hit by a car. Does that count as crazy?
Technically it happened last Thursday though.
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Uhhhh... yeah... is this your ghost?
Details please my child of love
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Nah. I'm still alive. It mostly missed. Just got a bruised arm, a sprained wrists and a few cuts and bumps. Like Fray, I decided it was a good idea to land on my face. Not the cleverest of ideas. Of course neither was crossing the road without paying attention.
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Do not attempt to headbutt cars. (Reminds me of that scene in 'Hitchhikers' film with Ford Prefect...were you trying to make friends with the dominant life-form?)
Wandered in to say hi, but have become frightened by the random religiosity in here. Prefer chocolate.
PS There are several henges around. And a rumour that the M25 is a giant anti-prayer-wheel...
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Truth to be told, I was running late for work and thinking about how to handle my hyper Italian students that day. My mind was in the classroom. Unfortunately, my body was still crossing a main road.
Ever hear of that billboard they had by a highway in the US? "Keep taking my name in vain and I'll make rush hour even longer! - God."
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*FMF drags the super duper pyre to Stonehenge and looks around, frantically she builds the super duper pyre wind wall and rain shield around it, because all 5 times FMF has been to Stone Henge it has been freakishly cold, windy and pouring with rain*
Morning fellow forsaken - hmmmmm Llamaburgers! Don't worry PR, Llamas will smell the Llamaburgers and run like hell! Or to hell I mean, they ARE forsaken Llamas
Space - Can't be Forsaken without at least a random mention of religious related things. Otherwise, what are we forsaken by? Or whom? Why are we here? What is the meaning of life? Who put the Ding in the ding da ding dong? Who put the sham in the sham ma lama ? Why am I rambling?
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It was me...
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I have stayed mostly silent on the boards until today (although I have read the Forsaken threads for entertainment value many a time), but I am coming out of hiding for this one...
I never turn down a chance to dance naked!
ps sorry about your wreck, DH. bummer :(
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Its a Pirate! Are you scary today? Where's the rum?
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Welcome! We're always happy to see people de-lurking for a naked dance or two. Have some mudder's milk and strawberries!
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Good morning Forsaken! 
PR...Thank you! You don't have to spend your life there..just an occasional post to spread the word!
Praise the BDH! Hallelujah! 
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Ooops! Twice the naked dancing Mal for half the price!
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Well hello again my lurvly Forsaken! And the new Forsaken! Yay! Yes, please join the circle.
*Hugs for Desktophippie* Glad you're ok! 
Sorry about the rampant religiosity, Space. If someone starts a debate like that I find it hard to keep quiet. My views are strong and my mouth is large 
*chomps a llamaburger and slides into the random vat of chocolate*
More naked dancing goodness to come! Just need to recharge.
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Morning, fellow Forsaken!
Thought I had wandered into the wrong thread for a minutes there...point and counter-point arguements about religion? Um...why bother? We are the Forsaken. So endeth the lesson.
DTH, sorry to hear about the car incident...did you at least scrape the paint? 
for the boo-boos.
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Aww, thanks for the kissies! *hugs*
Nope, happily the car was not injured in any way. The driver nearly had a heart attack though. I felt sorrier for him than I did for me. It ~was~ my fault after all. I'm usually very nervous and careful of roads, so it was a bit of a surprise.
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Welcome Welcome! Be sure and cast your blood upon my pyre to be one of the Forsaken. Then tithe regularly to the alcohol fund!
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DTH, I am glad to hear you survived relatively unscathed. Mind the roads from now on? 
And by the way, I love your banners.
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Here follows a rant.Quote:
Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
Anyone read "Jesus and the Lost Goddess" or any of those? They make me sad. They're really good, but they make me sad...
I think it would have been a better religion if two things happened:
1 They stuck to what it said in the books, not what symbols they could steal from pagans or what ideologies they could make up on the side.
2 They preserved all of the books, not just the ones they liked, and taught their flocks to think for themselves and make up their own minds on which books should be listened to.
That's the Magdaline story of course, call her a protitute for no apparent reason, have the majority believe it for the next few hundred years. The only reason it is possible is that people care more about what they are told the bible says than what it actually says.
Ok, I'd like to close the rant on my thoughts about Mary Magdaline because I brought her up.
So I figure could they have been married, sure why not, but I really don't care.
Personally I'm more interested in her importance than her marital status, The DaVinci Code and other such works imply that the only important part of her was her womb, I doubt that.
She gets mentioned more than several of The Twelve combined, as near as we can tell she was an important figure in early christianity, she was the first to see and the first person Jesus came to and the first person who believed in the resurrection. Obviously she's important, I want to know why.
I suppose it could be that Jesus was having sex with her, but I don't think you get the status of importance in a religious movement if the only thing of value you do is screw.
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Hey Chris (not so cynical to me)
There's a really good reason why I have the posing name Magdalena/Magdalene and it's very much like your views (hope you don't mind me editing ...'twas a wee bit long...)
I understood what Phoenix Rose said about feeling sad - I often feel that way when I see what the 'powers-that-be' in the early church (& at key points in it's history) have done to MM, and I too feel that it would have been no big deal if Jesus had married her - but I see her importance as much more than a womb-man (in the literal sense of the word woman)!
I will try so hard not to rant and rave here - coz we'd need a new thread I think - but suffice to say I love that we can be dancing at Stonehenge with our pink bits exposed to the chocolately goodness and at risk of being spat on by llamas one minute - then discussing deeply felt theological topics the next!
My posting name is to remind me the power of one woman and that 2,000 years later I will do my best to make sure her place is not diminished in my own understanding... even if not in everybody's!
*** End of rant***
Much, much love to you, Chris, and the gorgeous Phoenix Rose - mwaaah - Magdalena x x x
P.S. {EDIT} Umm... yeah - I see we've moved on somewhat so let me just say that I am so glad our little Hippie one is still alive and well and please take good care of yourself in the future... and I loved that Billboard you mentioned (LOL
) and also... goodnight! I am going to bed! "I love my Captain!"
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Yes, and have always loved your name, Magdalena! Both when you were Magdalene and now.
Side note: My actual name has some of the coolest symbolism ever. My parents chose Rose because (so they say) the rose is the symbol of the coming Buddha. I thought that was fantastic. Then I found out it's also the symbol of the Divine Feminine, the lost Goddess, and the Magdalene! I have the shiniest name ever!
Sorry, end of side note. Ima dance now.
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We prefer our Desktophippie alive and well and living in the verse
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Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
Its a Pirate! Are you scary today? Where's the rum?
Always... smokeryder pulls up a cart full. *he blows smoke from his nose*
enjoy... Arrrrr!
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Excellent! Need a little rum (although I prefer tequilla) for nekkid chocolate covered dancing!
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I'm a historian and archaeologist by training, a feminist by inclination and a defiant non-conformist by nature. Don't do patriarchy, hierarchy or the like, even organised circles. People like me used to get burnt, (or hung) so I like it in the Forsaken thread. It's...homey.
PR, Magdalena, check out Laurie R King's Mary Russell books. Second one is 'A Letter of Mary' and I think it will be right up your street.
Didn't expect to find Godbothering in the Forsaken thread, is all. I have a bad personal history with the sandal-wearing folk...
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And speaking of rum, I have discovered the tastiest rum ever! Capt. Morgan's Tattoo...talk about a tasty beverage!
Arrh!! Tattoo all around!
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cowboy pyre dancing!
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am I really seeing that? or is it the early morning Rum?
breehehehehhe... easy now smoke
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Thanks for the support, T On the subject of my banners, they are all available in the blue sun room and everyone is free to use them if they like them. I have my own personalised one, but I tend to switch when I post more than once in a thread. Variety and shameless self promotion are the spices of life.
Just saw FMT's post! Thanks for your support too. I like being alive myself. Intend to stay that way at least for the time being.
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*more hugs for DesktopHippie*
And I'm going to bed! 
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If I say yes you are really seeing it, does that discount that yes it is the rum?
wanna dance 
edit: nite nite PR
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well it's not pink cowboys... so, i guess thats good... 
oooo... I love to dance... gotta be funky though. *wisks FMF around the fire, trying best not to fall into peanuts character category*
has that been an imponderable? (dancing thing)
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don't think so- but it should be. I haven't danced since the night exMrFMF got mad at me for dancing and through me into a wall. Ooh sorry. TMI. (note 1 and ONLY time)
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Aarrrrrr! *PD signals his half drunken crew. He whispers into one of dem's ears. They scurry and make haste for leavin'*
Seems me crew is needin' to visit the gulf.
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ok, i'm just going to run through the thread, waving this in the air, seeing as you're all getting with the nakedness thing.
Now, This one had to be bought out and shown to the world.
Everybody - say thank you Arcadia.
http://www.myspace.com/seryndippyt
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wait....oh, PAGAN dancing.... thought you said CAJUN dancing...
nevermind....
"endeavor to persevere..." Chief Dan George as Lone Waite, Indian chief
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I love you, Captain Morgan!
BUT YOU DON'T LOVE ME BACK!! *SMASH*
Oh, God, you're bleeding!
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I love you, Captain Morgan!
BUT YOU DON'T LOVE ME BACK!! *SMASH*
Oh, God, you're bleeding!
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Uh ... does someone have a first aid kit?
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I got a bottle of Sailor Jerry and some duct tape. Will that do?
(Ties boots and slaps on tan boonie hat)
"SO we dancin' or what folks? Y'all know how much I love to mosh"
"Better dead and cool
Than alive and uncool."
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Cajun dancing, thats much more my style, unless the Pagans are going to allow violins and accordians in their celebrations.
Maybe a Pagan crawfish boil
The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule. – H.L. Mencken
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attempting to post so cross your fingers my darlins
I choose to rise instead of fall- U2
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*crosses finger and toes*
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Yeah party at Stonehenge !!!! Sounds good, break the kegs and the general mayhem. To the left a little ways from the fire we got us a little special nyotaimori snack for PhoenixRose. This ones all yours lass, I ain't even going to touch it which is a mircle ---- (will power, must focus my will power) hope this helps to cheer ya up!!!!! Well hang in there and don't let those crum bums get ya down.
mata, Ookami yori 
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*big shiny wide eyes* Oooooooooh...
*hurredly grins and thanks Ookami before scurrying over and gobbling yummy sushi of gorgeous naked woman*
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Hey PhoenixRose,
Thought that would get your attention. Hope it helps you feel better lass. Was funny, on Riply's believe it or not today, had a thing on nyotaimori --- looked like New York or some posh area in U.S. ie No Asians, mostly White folks, just caught a little of it before X-files came on. Well take it easy and talk with ya later.
mata, Ookami yori
I know, I have such strong will power huh.
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Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
Yes, and have always loved your name, Magdalena!
Side note: My actual name has some of the coolest symbolism ever. My parents chose Rose because (so they say) the rose is the symbol of the coming Buddha. I thought that was fantastic. Then I found out it's also the symbol of the Divine Feminine, the lost Goddess, and the Magdalene! I have the shiniest name ever!
Sorry, end of side note. Ima dance now.
I love that about your name - I actually love the flower, the fragrance & grace it implies - also love the symbolism and beauty of the mystical phoenix so your name is a favourite of mine too! Funny how we seem to keep connectin' half way accross the planet!!
for you too! Lovin' you gorgeous Phoenix Rose, also all my lovely , shiney friends in the 'verse - keep smiling (and looking where you're going) Desktop Hippie!! mwaaah - Magda x x x
{edit} oooooh... *slight slurping noise as she licks her lips* just saw... oh... thank you Arcadia... Thank you Seryn... mmmmmmmmmmmm....
"I love my Captain!"
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Bumpin' in here...anyone out there? Something about naked pyre dancin' as gives me an appetite. And various pictures of Mal are just making me think of...peaches. Roasted peaches, mebbe, with marscapone...
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Ah, the phoenix is my very, very favorite thing! Well, certainly one of them.
Look at this shiny picture I found!
It is so pretty!
...Roasted peaches?
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Yeah, you cut a peach in half, take the stone out and fill the gap with marscapone, or creme fraiche spiked with amaretto crumb, or flaked almonds, and then you grill the suckers.
I'm an hour off lunch. And i found a picture of Jayne. Now that just makes me think of...steak. A really big, juicy steak...
I am a wrong person.
ed; pretty birdie
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Hmm, never tried that. Sounds pretty tasty. Now I'm all hungry...
I have a ridiculous number of phoenix pictures...
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Morning, fellow Forsaken!
Yesterday was a busy day...here's hoping today is slower!
Ooh, naked pyre dancing while eating peaches...sounds like a wonderful plan!
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*PaganPaul jumps out of the fire naked and holding a bottle of rum. He pours a shot straight up, tips it three times toward the closest crossroads, pours a drop on the ground for Legba (the Hatian Lwa of the Crossroads), and starts dancing around the pyre while singing...
Papa Legba ouve baye-a pou mwen
Papa Legba ouve baye-a pou mwen
Ouve baye-a pou mwen Papa
Pou mwen pase
Le me retoune ma remesye Lwa yo
Le me retoune ma remesye Lwa yo
Le me retoune ma remesye Lwa yo
...then downs the rest of the shot*
I LOVE RUM!
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流口水的婊子和猴子的 笨儿子。
Liou coe shway duh biao-tze huh hoe-tze duh bun ur-tze.
"Stupid son of a drooling whore and a monkey."
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Ok If I got this right I got Captain Tight Pants in the chocolate with the llamas...
Or at least courtesy of Desk Top Hippie I got Cap'n Tight Pants... without his ... er ... tight pants!
I'm learning!!
Hmmmmmmmm... this and chocolate!
{edit} I am so tired I forgot the main reason for my post - that is to say the whole phoenix picture with the roses n'all makes me positively giddy! You are so clever Gorgeous Phoenix Rose!
And - roasted peaches SpacenJL???!!! (:insert salivatin' emoticon here:) (Though I'd put a cherry or a piece of chocolate in the middle ... not too fond of marzipan) {edit again} sorry mascapone is totally another things - salivates again...
Desktop Hippie - may I borrow this 'neked Mal' pic for a while? I just likes it so much!??
G'night all - Magdalena x x x"I love my Captain!"
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Mornin' y'all! Sorry I haven't stopped in in a while. I've become addicted to all things Buffy. Damn Joss!
Thought I'd bring Jack for some dancin', and I bet he has some rum!
Deb
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Huh! I just found YouTube.
Anyone else seen the Lego/Serenity trailer? I want to play with the shiny toys, but I have no idea how to perfomr any of that techno-wizardry.
But the Diary of Jayne is awesome.
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SweetSerendipity! Not Buffy!! Stay here, in this happy place, with us! Do not go to the Dark Side!
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But the dark side has cookies!!!
Oh wait...we have rum,llamaburgers,cake, and coke!
Ok, you convinced me. Besides all my favorite people are here!
As long as I can sneak in a Spike or two...
Deb
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