Male and Female Imponderables--Till Birnam wood remove to Dunsinane

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TRISTAN

Tuesday, August 1, 2006 6:26 PM (P)

More Imponderable-isms.

Last post:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=22658&m=351858#351858

Post and enjoy...lurkers are welcome to chime in!

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PHOENIXROSE

Tuesday, August 1, 2006 6:30 PM (P)

I'm having some major deja-vu...

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TRISTAN

Tuesday, August 1, 2006 6:31 PM (P)

Yeah, I thought it sounded familiar....

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PHOENIXROSE

Tuesday, August 1, 2006 6:36 PM (P)

How about "Though this be madness, yet there is method in it"?

Or go here for a long and handy list http://www.enotes.com/shakespeare-quotes/

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PENGUIN

Tuesday, August 1, 2006 6:37 PM (P)

or not ...

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Tuesday, August 1, 2006 6:38 PM (P)

one of the Forsaken TM

TRISTAN

Tuesday, August 1, 2006 6:38 PM (P)

I remembered one...p'rhaps not the greatest, but my memory pulled that one from the files. I'll use a search engine next time...

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TRISTAN

Tuesday, August 1, 2006 6:39 PM (P)

That one is indeed a good one, Penguin!

FMF, I'm, uh...not sure about the dancing pickle...

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PHOENIXROSE

Tuesday, August 1, 2006 6:40 PM (P)

What's "Dunsinane"???

Hey FMF, have you seen my raising hell sig yet?

PENGUIN

Tuesday, August 1, 2006 6:42 PM (P)

From Wikipedia...Dunsinane Hill is located in Scotland near Dundee. It is mentioned in Shakespeare's play Macbeth.

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Tuesday, August 1, 2006 6:44 PM (P)

Tristan - Everyone needs a little dancing pickle once in awhile!

Phoenix-SHE WHO SHOULD BE IN BED - excellent! Beware or someone might steal it!

one of the Forsaken TM

PHOENIXROSE

Tuesday, August 1, 2006 6:45 PM (P)

Steal away!

Going to bed now...

TRISTAN

Tuesday, August 1, 2006 6:53 PM (P)

Thank you, Penguin...I was a bit slow on the uptake on that.

FMF. Ok, I see your point. Naked dancing pickles are sometimes a necessity.

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MSG

Tuesday, August 1, 2006 7:04 PM (P)

WHOA!! Just finished tutoring( babysitting) and boy we had a nasty flash flood level thunderstorm. Uprooted trees ( big old pine trees) etc... Power just came back on. My cold is clearing up..AND My husband has just made me the happiest person on earth. Even though he's not too pro on kids, he's agreed to try and we're going to have a baby!!!!!!!!! Happy dance of joy and rapture I truly have the best and most wonderful husband ever! sorry had to do that as I am about to pop...oh and my baby sis Margi is pregnant :)

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

BLACKSHAMROCK5

Tuesday, August 1, 2006 7:14 PM (P)

Congrats! have fun baby makin'

Shamrock

GRRRARG

Tuesday, August 1, 2006 7:14 PM (P)

There is no single event which has more profoundly and deeply changed me than the time I've had with my son.
Heres what your husband should expect -
Pregancy isnt nearly as bad for the husband as the wife, however...
If complications should arise, he's johnnie on the spot - as happened a month before my son was born and my wife developed a severe case of preeclampsia - one of the few things that still kills women in childbirth. I was the guy making the medical decisions at that point.
The first 3 months of the kids life are hard on parents, because the child doesnt give anything back - he eats, sleeps (rarely), poops, and howls. For three months.
My boy laughed at me for the first time at the end of 3 months, and I was lost.
Teething - get a book called "The Happiest Baby on the Block". This will alow you and the baby to sleep. This is the greatest single book ever writen.
Get used to unpleasant biological things getting on pretty much every square cm of your body.
Remember that every little thing, from rolling over to talking, is a first, and should be treated as the triumph it is.
My kid is amazingly sweet tempered and kind - for a 3 year old - and the key to success:
A lot of carrot and a little stick. Praise often, punish occationally - time-outs work well for my boy. Lead by example - you want your child to say please and thank you - you gotta say it too. The rules apply to everyone; heres the logic behind no spanking - you cant tell your child "no hitting other people" and then spank him for it. And if daddy does something against the rules, he gets a time-out too.

Fatherhood is the single best thing thats ever happened to me. I love that boy more than my own life.

"Don't put your trust in revolutions. They always come around again. That's why they're called revolutions. People die, and nothing changes." -Terry Pratchett "Night Watch"

TRISTAN

Tuesday, August 1, 2006 7:20 PM (P)

MSG and MisterG! Congrats! And thank you for sharing that with us...I feel honored.

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PENGUIN

Tuesday, August 1, 2006 7:49 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:

There...a clean pickle is a happy pickle!

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Tuesday, August 1, 2006 7:52 PM (P)

MsG

Then you definately need a dancing pickle!

one of the Forsaken TM

PENGUIN

Tuesday, August 1, 2006 7:52 PM (P)

Congrats, MSG!

MSG

Tuesday, August 1, 2006 7:55 PM (P)

I just keep sitting here beaming..my husband is the best ever...this isn't really what he wants, but he loves me enough to do it anyway!!! Is it possible to explode with feelings of joy and love???

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Tuesday, August 1, 2006 7:59 PM (P)

Penguin!

Oh thank you thank you! My pickle was feeling a little dirty! And who wants a dirty pickle?

one of the Forsaken TM

NVGHOSTRIDER

Tuesday, August 1, 2006 8:04 PM (P)

Wow, third time in the last year I hear of wonderful folks tryin' to bring more wonderful folks into the world. Gives me hope for the future.
Congrats to the G's!

"...And them chains them chains
Their 'bout to drag me down"

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Tuesday, August 1, 2006 8:15 PM (P)

A little advice for the people with the little people from our friends at CSN&Y

ARTIST: Graham Nash
TITLE: Teach Your Children
Lyrics and Chords

You who are on the road
Must have a code that you can live by
And so become yourself
Because the past is just a good-bye

/ C - F - / C - G - / :

Teach your children well
Their father's hell did slowly go by
And feed them on your dreams
The one they pick's the one you'll know by

Don't you ever ask them why
If they told you, you would cry
So just look at them and sigh
And know they love you

/ C - F - / C - / Am - F G / C - F G /

And you of tender years Can't know the fears
That your elders grew by
And so please help
Them with your youth They seek the truth
Before they can die

Teach your parents well
Their children's hell will slowly go by
And feed them on your dreams
The one they pick's the one you'll know by

Don't you ever ask them why
If they told you, you would cry
So just look at them and sigh
And know they love you

one of the Forsaken TM

SERYN

Tuesday, August 1, 2006 9:28 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Penguin:
Quote:
Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:

There...a clean pickle is a happy pickle!

Why am i just instantly thinking of some sex ed video they might have shown teen boys in the fifties?

'..and remember chaps, a clean pickle...'

oh, and reposted, cause i had to -

Oh, SpaceAnjl - i had to laugh when you mentioned your husband and you bonding over Half Man Half Buscuit.

only my boss is one of the band, and to think of him,(the man who regales anyone whole listen with tales of his favorite movies, Zulu and The Wickerman and all of the strippers therein, and can regularly be heard singing the lyrics to very rude marching army/navy ditties) then imagine someone bonding over it is... surreal to say the least.

Last time i shared music with anyone, it was Tori Amos - and now he's hopelessly addicted, in return he got me addicted to White Rose Movement - an electropop or whatever band from london - which he sent to me not because he new i liked that kind of music, but because its his brothers band. I'm still glad.

I remember many happy hourse spent with my playlists on in the back ground - stuff like the cure, old punk bands (the clash sex pistols (thought they're not so romantic) stranglers etc) and other bands like the who, bowie elton john kate bush and echo and the bunnymen and 80's pop, mixed in with newer chillies foo's and radiohead - it was great, everysong had an association or prompted a memory, and on the rare occasions we had nothing to talk about, we had the music - plus there was the one time with the very eventful pillow fight and, ahem, stuff, set to a soundtrack of led zep and NIN.

Nothing beats good old rock for that sort of thing... apart from Massive Attacks Mezzanine album - to this day we remain convinced that they made that album from under the covers.

Now, This one had to be bought out and shown to the world.
Everybody - say thank you Arcadia.

http://www.myspace.com/seryndippyt

SERYN

Tuesday, August 1, 2006 9:31 PM (P)

oh, and MsG - you truly have a marvellous husband.

I have to say, the prospect would have me running for cover as well. I'd be the one sat looking a little wild eyed. So kudos or whatever to him.

Go get him a really big beer.

BSCPANTHERFAN

Tuesday, August 1, 2006 10:36 PM (P)

Congrats on the decision to download a tricycle motor! Adding to the Browncoat ranks can be done by many methods, but that one has to be one of the funnest. Have good sex!

As far as the guilty pleasure TV, I have a Laserdisc player and all of the "Golden Age of Looney Tunes" sets, the "Art of Tom and Jerry" sets, several other various animated single disc sets, etc. It may be very old school, but you can't get the uncut versions of those cartoons anymore, and the non-"PC" ones will probably not ever be reissued(try getting Disney to admit they made Song of the South, even though it had the first non-animated Black actor in Disney history).

In general, if something gets enough buzz from my friends who have opinions I trust, I will go ahead and buy the DVD if I can. Lately funds have been kind of tight, though

So who is he?
He's my husband.
Well who in the damn galaxy ain't!

MSG

Tuesday, August 1, 2006 10:40 PM (P)

Yeah Seryn he's the best. I couldn't be happier:) I really actually couldn't be happier( I mean I know people say this, but I honestly don't think there is more happy available)

EDIT- Song of the South is wonderful!! wish it were available...memories:)

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

PDCHARLES

Tuesday, August 1, 2006 10:42 PM (P)

That is wonderful, MSG! Congrats.

MISTERG

Tuesday, August 1, 2006 10:46 PM (P)

Oy vey what have I gotten myself into? I can see it now... 4-5 years down the road playing with a custom music toy... "No Bergen, Iron Maiden is the red square button... Slayer is the black triangle... no.. no.. that button is the one that plays Led Zeppelin"

"There can be only one."

BSCPANTHERFAN

Tuesday, August 1, 2006 10:48 PM (P)

If you have access to a Laserdisc player, there is a disc that was released in Japan. It will play in English and only subtitles the songs. Otherwise, it is available on the PAL format in the UK. I got mine off of eBay, of course.

I read somewhere that "Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah" was Disney's most recognized or famous song. I don't know if that is still the case, but it's funny that the movie it came from can't be found in the country it was made in.

Even though the movie itself is not PC, the stories about Brer Rabbit and company are wonderful.

So who is he?
He's my husband.
Well who in the damn galaxy ain't!

MISTERG

Tuesday, August 1, 2006 10:52 PM (P)

We've had an LD player for 12 years :)

"There can be only one."

NVGHOSTRIDER

Tuesday, August 1, 2006 11:34 PM (P)

Well imponderabublers, I gotta go home. Feel a bit like a little kid fighting his sleep. So much left to do today. Catch y'all tomorrow.

PENGUIN

Tuesday, August 1, 2006 11:42 PM (P)

Tristan...How come the name reverted back to an old thread??? I'm seeing "Male and Female Imponderables--The course of true love never did run smooth" on the front page...

CALIFORNIAKAYLEE

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 12:11 AM (P)

Quote:
I read somewhere that "Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah" was Disney's most recognized or famous song. I don't know if that is still the case, but it's funny that the movie it came from can't be found in the country it was made in.

Even though the movie itself is not PC, the stories about Brer Rabbit and company are wonderful.

There's a ride in both Disneyland and Disney World (and possibly in France and Tokyo as well, honestly don't know) based entirely on the Brer Rabbit stories, complete with quite a bit of "Zippidy Doo Dah" being sung. It's called Splash Mountain, one of the more popular rides in my experience. It is a bit odd that you can't get Song of the South anymore, but the song and the stories seem to be living on in a new form.

Btw, where did you get the Tom and Jerry episodes? Hubby is a huge fan of the old (non PC) T&Js.

~CK

You can't take the sky from me...

MISTERG

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 2:51 AM (P)

Mmmmmmmmm had the BEST porkchops, with rice and also a special squash called starburst (or is it sunburst) squash. YUMMEH :)

"There can be only one."

TRISTAN

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 2:52 AM (P)

I see the Birnam wood title....I had a bit of a problem with it earlier, but it seems ok now.

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BSCPANTHERFAN

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 3:22 AM (P)

MisterG, I will pay rent and my part of the utilities if y'all will let me move in with you and eat your wife's cooking. I'll even bring some Top O' The River catfish with me.

So who is he?
He's my husband.
Well who in the damn galaxy ain't!

BSCPANTHERFAN

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 3:29 AM (P)

CK, I got most of my discs off of eBay. The Tom and Jerry ones are unedited (in other words, sometimes the ladies legs are brown and she talks with an exaggerated dialect). Set one is on eBay more often than set two, and I have only seen Set three out there when I bought it.

When Ted Turner bought the rights to the cartoons, they went through them and recolored the legs Caucasian and dubbed over the dialogue. Of course, this is the same group of people who won't show "Speedy Gonzales" cartoons, either.

So who is he?
He's my husband.
Well who in the damn galaxy ain't!

PHOENIXROSE

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 5:38 AM (P)

Ms G is going to have a baby?

I can't think of anyone who would make a better mommy!
More smart people should have babies. And good mommies should also have babies. Like NVG said, it gives me hope

Um, what about this Song of the South? I know Uncle Remus, I know the song, but I can't say I've seen anything about "Song of the South"...
Oh wait; it bothered people because of the portrayal of slavery not being so bad, right? Or something.
Yes, I've always known the song, never knew what it was from. And I have a book of Uncle Remus stories and I've seen animated versions of them somewhere or other.

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PHOENIXROSE

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 6:19 AM (P)

Fellow imponderers, answer me this; How should I respond to someone on a dating site who messages me with "You and I should run off together and get married!"? My off-the-cuff response would be "I don't believe in marriage." He doesn't sound like a bad guy (his age isn't accurate, though, and he lives pretty far away. I've done the "dating in Denver" thing too many times...) but I'm just not sure how or if I should even respond.
Also, I am still waiting to be asked out for sushi...

CALIFORNIAKAYLEE

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 6:24 AM (P)

I think the "I don't believe in marriage" line would be fine if you made it into a bit of a joke. Like "I don't believe in marriage, but maybe we could run away and get coffee together?"

I dunno, I'm totally lame tonight, lol. Another night without hubby, and I think I just ate my own weight in biscuits.

~CK

You can't take the sky from me...

PHOENIXROSE

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 6:33 AM (P)

Yeah, I thought about a "shouldn't we maybe have dinner first?" response, but I don't want to meet up with someone from the frickin internet without talking for awhile first. I know there aren't that many freaks, weirdos, serial killers and rapists in the world, but it's still stupid to meet someone you don't know anything about.
His profile says he's a Christian; think he'd still want to marry me if he knew I was Forsaken?

CALIFORNIAKAYLEE

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 6:41 AM (P)

Oh, that might be a way to get a conversation going: "Your religion or mine?"

...Yep, still lame.

~CK

You can't take the sky from me...

PHOENIXROSE

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 6:47 AM (P)

What pisses me off is that these sites don't generally have "Pagan" as an option when selecting your religion, so my profile just says "other" which is really kinda stupid and lame. I could have said "Buddhist" but I'm only a little bit Buddhist and would honestly come off as almost ignorant if a lifelong, hard-core Buddhist started talking about it. I'm pretty sure I'm wearing a pentacle in my picture, but maybe it's hard to tell what it is.
Stupid *mimblewimbleratsofrasing...* *GARGANOOKBRATSOFECK...* site!
Anyway. How were the biscuits?

CALIFORNIAKAYLEE

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 6:57 AM (P)

Yummy but heavy. I had a craving for "pigs in a blanket" (hot dogs wrapped in biscuit dough and baked) and tomato soup, which is something my mom used to make when I was a kid. So I went online and found a simple recipe for biscuit dough that I had all the ingredients for, and started making it. When I was mixing the milk in, I realized that if I put hot dogs with the dough, it wouldn't be kosher (no meat and dairy at the same time). I've been working on keeping kosher, and I'm generally pretty good about it at home (not so good outside of the home, but I'm working on it), so bah, no hot dogs. So I made four gloppy biscuits instead (the recipe made more than I thought it would!) and cooked them up. They were yummy, and with the tomato soup more or less fulfilled my craving.

And that's fairly lame for them not to have a Pagan option. A picture of you with your pentacle would probably be a fairly clear hint to those who know.

So what's happening with Sushi Boy?

~CK

You can't take the sky from me...

PHOENIXROSE

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 7:15 AM (P)

Well, my picture on this particular site looks like this:

Don't know if someone not in the know can tell what the thing around my neck is.

Right now I'm giving Sushi Boy some tips on how to make his website a little less eye-searing. We've gone back to talking about graphics, you see. He's now asked what I've done so I told him about my photobucket account since that's basically the only place all (or most of) my graphic art is. We'll see if he thinks I have skillz. No sushi as of yet.

CALIFORNIAKAYLEE

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 7:22 AM (P)

Hmmm, yeah, since I know what it is I can tell what it is, if that makes sense, but I don't think it would clue most people in. At most you might get a question about it, I think. If you cropped that picture closer on your head and shoulders, would the pentacle be more visible?

So does Sushi Boy seem to have a soul? So many of the guys on dating sites are just so... odd. It'd be awesome if you found one who is actually human -- and who likes sushi and graphic design!

Would you ever consider asking him out to sushi? Or are you more of a traditionalist?

~CK

I blame the biscuits...

SERYN

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 7:38 AM (P)

I don't know i i could cope with keeping kosher - from what i've read, they way they treat the animals, and slaughter them, is way better than standard western practices, but no meat with dairy? Could'nt do that.

Of course, now all my favorite meals that are non kosher are sitting on the edge of my brain going 'haha, you ain't remembering what we are..' but nevermind.

Its just a good thing i'm allergic to religion.

MsG, MisterG, you will make wonderful parents, but i can hear the cries for the next four years no - Bregan (is that the name?) put down the brulee torch! mommys best pans are not toys! Put down the toast and step away from daddy's stereo equipment! no sweetie, daddy doesn't want to listen to the tweenies album again, can't you put some Slayer on?

ah, domestic bliss. And take heart, i can't do children, but myu neice turned out great despite close and prolonged contact with me, so you will be great!

Fancy another lodger? Infact, think you could maybe put another wing on the house and we'd all move in and pay you rent?

My best friend, did i tell that story? Just got intouch, after years, and wants to talk again.
i'm still a little annoyed at her, but the fact that she got in touch with me helps enourmously.

should i drop the issues and carry on as we were before?

i'm thinking 'hell yes' but hmmmm.

Oh, i think my interview went ok. i'll tell you all tonight, it was quite amusing actually, or i'll blog it and you can laugh. (a wee bit)

http://www.myspace.com/seryndippyt

PHOENIXROSE

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 7:38 AM (P)

Well, that's a good question. I might at some point say "We should go get some sushi!" but there are two concerns I have about that. The first is, if I ask, do I have to pay for the whole thing? The other is, if I ask too soon, do I come off as really desperate? (maybe that's his concern, too...)
Yes, many guys on these sites are odd. And I've found some truly enraging and disgusting ads (My favorite was "seeking clean, disease-free girl for sex behind my girlfriend's back" ) but so far he does seem to have a soul. Probably. He talks about his website a lot, so I wonder if he just wants to talk about that or actually meet people. It can be so hard to tell.
I might try cropping my picture. I just didn't want anyone thinking I had something to hide in the waist area, ya know?

Also I am really not fond of my chin. I think it's too big and looks strange in pictures. So I don't know if I want to zoom in on that area...

GOAT

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 7:46 AM (P)

PR:
If you end up around here, I'd love to take you out for sushi. I imagine that you were looking for something a bit closer, though.

For the sake of curiosity, what kinds of sushi do you like?

CALIFORNIAKAYLEE

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 7:51 AM (P)

Heya Seryn!

Actually, other than cheeseburgers, separating meat and dairy has been one of the easiest parts of it for me. I eat maybe one serving of meat a day, if that, so it's just an issue of being aware of what's dairy and what's pareve (neutral) when I am having meat. I've never had any vegetarian leanings, I've just never been that big of a meat eater. And some of the medications I'm on have a tendency to make me nauseous, and meat just makes the situation worse.

By far the hardest issue for me has been giving up pork and shellfish, particularly in their incarnations as bacon and sushi. I don't buy them and cook them in my home, but I'm a little less strict when I go out to eat. I'm working on bacon, and hopefully I'll be over it before I go stay at my parents' house next (my mother has a gigantic cast iron griddle that covers two burners on the stove, and when we're all home, she just loads that up with bacon and pancakes and french toast). Shellfish in sushi will take much, much longer to give up, heh.

~CK

You can't take the sky from me...

PHOENIXROSE

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 7:54 AM (P)

Yeah? Where are you, goat?

I like much sushi! My favorites are Unagi, Maguro, salmon, shrimp, and crab. I like just about anything except the sugared egg, the raw egg, the squid, and anything with excessive ammounts of roe because I don't like the texture of roe at all. I'll try just about anything once! Also, I don't like too much wasabi on my sushi because it's a bit difficult to taste anything else under that stuff. I prefer to avoid it but certain places build it right into the sashimi rolls. I've had unagi spoiled that way; I was not happy.
*edit* I totally missed that Seryn had posted! Bad Rose! Hey girl, how ya doin? Can I ask what this best friend did to piss you off? I had a falling-out with a former best friend last year; it was NOT pretty. And I don't think I would ever talk to her again, much as I sometimes miss her. I miss who she was; don't really know who she is anymore.
CK, I could not eat kosher. Could not do it. Best of luck to you, there.

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GOAT

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 8:05 AM (P)

I'm in Osaka, Japan for now but I'll be back in Wisconsin next summer. Still pretty far, though.

You listed some good ones there. They do tend to be sneaky about the wasabi some times. I put extra on top several times before figuring that out. My favorites are california roll (even though its not traditional sushi), spider roll (deep fried crab and some other stuff) and maguro(tuna, I think). I could go on and on, though. Sushi was pretty much the only thing that kept me from going all out vegetarian.

One interesting thing that I've learned here is that what US sushi places call sashimi isn't really sashimi here. A sushi roll is what is commonly thought of as sushi, sushi is something put over some sushi rice and sashimi is just raw fish.

PHOENIXROSE

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 8:14 AM (P)

I love spider rolls! (One of my favorite ways to eat crab) though California rolls can be about anything. But I like rolls. And yes, maguro is tuna. Yum yum!
Yeah, I've been to places that had plain raw fish for sashimi, but many of them put them on rice and wrap them with seaweed (hence "sashimi roll". Didn't know how else to refer to it) and of course Unagi is also generally served that way.
Oh man, I want sushi...

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CALIFORNIAKAYLEE

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 8:24 AM (P)

PR, heh, yeah, that's hubby's take on it too. But he's strangely supportive of me keeping kosher. One time he threw out my coffee mix when I realized it wasn't kosher, and was trying to decide whether or not to throw it out. Just picked it up and threw it out, then took me grocery shopping. Probably sounds incredibly boring, but I found it really sweet, hehe.

Anyhow, it certainly isn't something anyone else expects me to be doing, and no one is checking up on me when I mess up. Mostly I do it because I like taking the extra minute in the store to see if the thing is kosher before I buy it, I like that I had to make that decision about including the hot dogs with my biscuits tonight. I dunno, it's hard to explain, but I like being reminded about my religious choices in small moments like that.

I will admit that I am a sushi weakling, heh. My favorites depend on the place, but they're generally pretty tame. At the place hubby and I go to now, we get the crazy roll (which is a California roll tempura fried) and the Philadelphia roll, most times. Both are soooooo yummy, but not exact adventurous, hehe.

~CK

You can't take the sky from me...

PHOENIXROSE

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 8:28 AM (P)

You should try Unagi, CK. It's like my dessert sushi because it is just so good. Not shellfish!
Never heard of a Philadelphia roll, but most places have different names for different things.

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CALIFORNIAKAYLEE

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 8:31 AM (P)

Philadelphia roll is salmon and cream cheese, and sometimes a vegetable like cucumber or asparagus. So very good. Mmmmmm...

~CK

You can't take the sky from me...

PHOENIXROSE

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 8:34 AM (P)

Sounds interesting; never had cream cheese in my sushi. The local place here has a "catapillar roll" which is little bits of eel (unagi) rolled in rice and topped with avacado and sesame seeds. It is very yum.

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SPACEANJL

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 8:35 AM (P)

PR, you ever tried making your own? Fun, but messy.

Only tried veggie ones so far, as I can't source any really good fresh fish, yet. Love the sweet omelette ones.

CALIFORNIAKAYLEE

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 8:36 AM (P)

I think one of the local places here has a catapillar roll too. I'm a bit scared of unagi (it's eel, yes?), so I haven't tried it yet. Maybe one of these days I'll get up the courage.

~CK

You can't take the sky from me...

PHOENIXROSE

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 8:40 AM (P)

My best friend has a Japanese aunt who taught her how to make sushi, so she can make sushi. But she hasn't been able to afford to make any in recent past, so I haven't gotten the pleasure of homemade sushi.
Cook it myself? I do ok with eggs, spaghetti, and burgers, but I wouldn't really trust myself with anything more complicated. Especially not something with expensive ingredients.
Best friend is a kitchen witch; her cooking is literally magick. She can do anything.
I burn things a lot. Lots of fire in my blood and my magick. Hence the name and the picture.
That was a little disjointed. Sure you got the idea, though.

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ODDSBODSKINS

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 8:42 AM (P)

so, given all you sushi'sperts here, what would be a good type to try for someone who's never had sushi before?

PHOENIXROSE

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 8:45 AM (P)

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Originally posted by CaliforniaKaylee:
I'm a bit scared of unagi (it's eel, yes?), so I haven't tried it yet. Maybe one of these days I'll get up the courage.

Fresh water eel, to be exact. It really is delicious; I can't recommend it enough. I was a little scared of it at first, too. Now I can't get enough. Ever.
Just don't have it with wasabi; there's a wonderful terriaki-like, sweet sauce that's supposed to go with it. It really makes it.
It isn't raw, if that's what you're worried about. They cook it and usually serve it warm.
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......

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PHOENIXROSE

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 8:50 AM (P)

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Originally posted by Oddsbodskins:
so, given all you sushi'sperts here, what would be a good type to try for someone who's never had sushi before?

Good question. Start with a mix would be my advice. California rolls, spider rolls, unagi, salmon, and maguro are all very good and mostly non-threatening (i.e. cooked! lol)
My dad started me on maguro without telling me what it was. I think I was about six at the time

loved sushi ever since. I remember the restaurant owner was most shocked to see this little white girl gobbling up sushi. She even came over to talk to us.

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GOAT

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 8:57 AM (P)

A rose by any other name...

Yeah, I'm starting to get hungry too. Thats what happens when you start thinking about food, though.

SPACEANJL

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 9:00 AM (P)

Hmmm...with the flambe thing going on, maybe you should try teppanyaki instead.

I've found a place that sells the whole lot of stuff, and it's not that expensive. It's using the right rice, and that's pence.

Don't like california rolls myself - the mayo bothers me.

Smoked eel with a smear of horseradish mustard and very thin black bread...

This is going to turn into one of those threads.

PHOENIXROSE

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 9:05 AM (P)

Mayo? Never noticed mayo. Maybe the rolls differ a bit from place to place.

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GOAT

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 9:18 AM (P)

I don't think that I have ever had a california roll with mayo, either. One of my co-workers was talking about how his kids put mayo on shrimp sushi, though.

Hmm, wasn't intending to start this large of a threadjack. Whoops.

SPACEANJL

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 9:26 AM (P)

I've had some weird commercial sushi before. That's why I either make my own, or save up for the expensive real stuff...the little kirin and sake cart at Yo Sushi! was so cute. It used to rumble around, and occasionally stop and bleep 'life is just an endless circuit'. V Douglas Adams.

PHOENIXROSE

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 9:27 AM (P)

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Originally posted by goat:
I don't think that I have ever had a california roll with mayo, either. One of my co-workers was talking about how his kids put mayo on shrimp sushi, though.

NO! Shrimp sushi is probably the one kind that doesn't need anything on it! It's so good! And the flavor is very delicate and easily overwhelmed.
And I don't like mayo all that much. Even on sandwiches I don't like too much.

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DANCINGNEKO

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 10:23 AM (P)

*peers around corner* Did someone say "sushi?"

OddsBodkins: I suggest the tamago sushi (the one PR complains about -- the Japanese scrambled egg/omlette sushi). It's too sweet for my tastes, but very safe. That or inari or "cone" sushis...

That or maki (a.k.a. roll sushi)...

Both of the sushis in the pictures have no raw fish in them.

Goat: I thought all california rolls have mayo inside (the surimi or fake crab meat is usually mixed with some mayo)?

Gah...It's late, I have a ton of work to do in the a.m. and I hardly get to post here *pouts*. Oh well, g'night all.

P.S. Welcome MisterG! Congrats to MsG and MisterG on your plan.

PHOENIXROSE

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 10:29 AM (P)

Yeah, roll sushi. Maki. Neko knows the lingo better than me

Eggs should not be sweet. It's just wrong.

So cone sushi is called "inari". That sort of explains why my best friend was calling Inara that for awhile when I first introduced her to the show. Weird.

MAGDALENA

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 11:01 AM (P)

Hello Gorgeous people!

I've been off the radar for almost 48 hours and was having withdrawral symptoms and tonight I come in and find you're talking about one of my favourite subjects ... sushi!!

Yum, yum, yum!!! I love all kinds - but not fussed by the cooked fish varieties - even the 'shrimp' (we call them prowns here!) I usually find it's a bit overcooked for me and one of the things I loved about sushi when I discovered it was that it was not cooked! The delicacy of the flavour is not lost and I so prefer uncooked tuna to cooked!

California roll ...hmmmm.. I do like it! It usually has a smearing of Japanese mayo in it which is not tangy but very creamy and really finishes it off - but Goat is right - it's not a Japanese thing really! (as the name might suggest). I asked a favourite sushi chef once what California roll is in Japanese and he told me it's called California Roll... even in Japan! Apparently it was a kind of compromise to encourage a new market to taste sushi when the idea of raw fish was still a bit overwhelming to them! Has anyone tried the almost raw beef dish? (It's name will come to me...) I also love the spicy 'dumplings' they make called gyoza, and the onigiri or potato pancakes... if I hadn't just finished dinner I'd be very hungry right now!

Love you all - Magda x x x

P.S. - I'm popping you in my prayers MSG!!! That is one hell of a man you've got there!! Smiling all the way over in Australia for you!! Have fun with the makin' of that baby!!

"I love my Captain!"

SPACEANJL

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 11:08 AM (P)

Teppanyaki is the beef on a hoe thing, I think. Kobe beef is the best beef. (They massage them with beer, very Forsaken.)

Got a marinade for beef that starts out a bit like teriyaki, shoyu and mirin and little grated ginger...

There's a reason my OC is a cook.

edit: MSG! Congrats! But no soft cheese or alcohol for you...

MAGDALENA

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 11:18 AM (P)

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Originally posted by SpaceAnJL:
Teppanyaki is the beef on a hoe thing, I think. Kobe beef is the best beef. (They massage them with beer, very Forsaken.)

Yes, but did beautiful women hand feed them and was it a sight to behold...?

I love my BDH's...

Thank you for caring enough to tell me about the beef!!

Mwaaah - Magda x x x

"I love my Captain!"

PHOENIXROSE

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 11:26 AM (P)

My Magdalena is back! Yay!
I personally like my beef cooked. I'm paranoid about it the way a lot of people are paranoid about raw fish.
*edit because I saw this on another thread*

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Originally posted by magdalena:
Thank you Gorgeous Phoenix Rose (and I saw your photo on the imponderables thread... Very Gorgeous!!

Thank you!

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When there's a man who's perfect for you - you won't have to ask him out for sushi! He'll know you well enough to ask you anyway!! But enjoy anyone whom you wish to 'Darlin!!
I totally love your new signature too!!

Oh, I'm sure the perfect man will start a conversation with me about Firefly and ask me out to sushi; for now though I'd just like a date. I need to get out of the house.
I love my sig too!

MAGDALENA

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 11:31 AM (P)

I guess that's part of the joy of living in Australia - we have always had very strict quaranteen laws so there is nothing like the human form of Mad Cow's Disease (or the cow one either) or Foot 'n' Mouth etc. Besides - I don't like my meat over cooked either so I like it medium rare at least!!

Mwaaah - Magda x x

"I love my Captain!"

SPACEANJL

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 11:40 AM (P)

I like beef and lamb rare. Husband does a lamb fillet with a hazelnut crust...

But you have to use mutton for a good curry, otherwise the spices mug the meat.

PHOENIXROSE

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 11:42 AM (P)

Hmmmmmmm, now I have to think about whether I would want to live in Australia for the disease-free beef or if I want to stay as far away as possible for the possibility of being bitten by an incredibly poisonous spider...

SPACEANJL

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 11:48 AM (P)

Eat the spiders

Very rare roast beef, shave-cut in pink curls, with a roast onion gravy and yorkshire pudding. Buttered cabbage and the kind of horseradish clears your sinuses. And properly crunchy roast potatoes.

I want my lunch.

PHOENIXROSE

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 11:55 AM (P)

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Originally posted by SpaceAnJL:
Eat the spiders

SPACEANJL

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 11:59 AM (P)

Mine is an evil laugh!

Seriously, that would be so gross. But Husband has a book of strange food. Including a bit on a place that sells candied insects. Spiders and scorpions in lollipops. Gah!

TRISTAN

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 12:46 PM (P)

Morning, all!
Reading about all this food so early in the morning has made me hungry...
I like Weinerschnitzel, but it's kinda hard to find the real stuff around here. That, and boxty and sausage.
Ok, now I'm really hungry...time to scare up something to go with the coffee.

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DEEPGIRL187

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 1:03 PM (P)

Morning, everyone. No talking about good food, I'm at work (not that the whole spider thing sounds that good). And by the way, a very enthusiastic congrats to MsG! I hope everything goes well. (See, this is what happens when I don't log on for a few hours! )

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TROGMAN

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 1:04 PM (P)

Mornin'!

MsG - belated congrats! If I may be so bold, baby-making sex is the best.

SpaceAnjl - Sounds great. I love that kind of horseradish. You know food is spicy enough when those little rivulets of sweat start forming on your forehead and upper lip - just right.

NOW I'm hungry.

Hey, any UK people know of a spicy relish/spread/concoction call Patak's Hot Lime Relish? Delicious on steak. Wow. Just had some last week and my world is better.

Any fans of Mo Hotta Mo Betta out there? http://www.mohotta.com/

OK, here's an imponderable - why do men tend to like really spicy food more than women do? Or do I just not have enough spicy women in my life?

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SPACEANJL

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 1:09 PM (P)

You want a recipe for lime pickle, TrogMan?

I got lime pickle, brinjal, moroccan pickled lemons, chili jam...

And on the heat front - I make a prawn pathia that my husband won't touch as too vicious. And I'm off home to make a dhansak right now.

PS any folks want recipes, just ask. And I want that pork chop recipe, G-folk...

PHOENIXROSE

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 1:13 PM (P)

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Originally posted by TrogMan:
OK, here's an imponderable - why do men tend to like really spicy food more than women do? Or do I just not have enough spicy women in my life?

I always assumed it was a macho thing. The only man I've known who claimed to love spicy food and actually been able to eat it without turning red and tearing up is my brother. Anyone else seems to be saying "This is great!" through their tears; like they're trying to impress someone with how much they can take.
I dunno, I might be wrong. But I'm certainly not down for that kind of intense food. As for being spicy myself... Well, I suppose my Ex of Doom is the only one who could comment accurately on that, but I certainly never got any complaints

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TROGMAN

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 1:15 PM (P)

Yes, yes! *jumps up and down, salivating* Send over the recipe, I can give you my e-mail if you like.

I don't know what half of those things are, but they sound wonderful! I'll try any food at least once, espcially if it is spicy. One of my biggest accomplishments in life was trying raw octopus, sishumi and lots of other New Food when on a trip to Japan (lotsof host stays). Wonderful!

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TROGMAN

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 1:20 PM (P)

PR - You may be misinterpreting! As odd as this sounds, it is totally possible to turn red, tears streaming, and be thoroughly enjoying the experience. That is what normally happens to me when I get a really spicy food. I love it! The red face and tears do NOT indicate that there is no enjoyment.

Seriously - they're not faking. It is just that the mental enjoyment of the taste is far more positive than the physical sensation causing the red face and tears (which in my opinion is positive too).

Masochistic, yes.

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PHOENIXROSE

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 1:26 PM (P)

Well, maybe so. I can't stand it; I can't taste anything but the burning sensation and I feel like my head is going to explode. That's not really my idea of good flavor or a good time.
I've heard, though, that it's kind of a test of manhood in certain cultures and households. It might be a total urban legend, but I've heard that in Spanish culture, when a young lady brings a young man home for dinner, they spice up his food to see how much he can take. If he coughs or complains, he's not worthy.

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LIUYAN

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 1:36 PM (P)

ITA with Trogman...the rush that comes with eating really spicy food is fabulous, with or without tears and red face- although I usually order something that keeps me at the "flushed and happy" level and not the "crying and red as a stop sign" level :P

Oh, and I love inari sushi and it is still hard for me to this day to see Inara and not get a craving!

mm, inari...

TROGMAN

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 1:50 PM (P)

I have heard that too, about the manhood-spicy stuff.

{rant}
I don't care about that rather silly male-stereotype stuff - a waste of energy to try and keep up with it. I swear, more wars (of all kinds) and pain has been caused by people trying to live up to stereotypes (male and female). What a waste. Why do people do that? Who the hell cares? Why do people try to fulfill society's concept of "self", instead of their own?
{/rant}

PR, I know that you weren't implying anything about me, this is just a sore point personally. I'm reacting to the concept, not to you.

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MISTERG

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 1:55 PM (P)

Drat this is MSG- I just saw I was logged as hubby after it posted and I have to dash
Morning all...ok now I am going to spend all day thinking of sushi. I have to go tutor and then hit the gym, but I'll be back in about 5 hours:)

SpaceAnJL- sigh the list is long and icky...no alcohol, no fish, no soft cheese, and no coffee( or any other caffine)

Have fun guys and here's an imponderable while I am gone... Would you be ok with an SO taking a job that took them far away for long periods of time ( like millitary)?

"There can be only one."

TRISTAN

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 2:03 PM (P)

I used to love all sorts of spicy foods...until the age of my stomach caught up with the rest of me!
I still love a good curry, and you can't pry me away from wasabi, but that's about it nowadays for spicy foods. I do miss them, though.

Greetings, LiuYan! Not sure if you have been here before, but welcome!

MSG/MisterG...morning? Two screen names become one...

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GOAT

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 2:05 PM (P)

dancingneko: Keep in mind, pretty much all of the california rolls that I have had were in Wisconsin. Not exactly a place thats well known for its seafood. Heck, in Madison the lakes are so polluted from farm runoff that you're not supposed to eat the fish from them.

magdalena: I didn't catch the name when I tried it, but I did eat a dish that was mostly made of raw beef or mutton (loud restaurant, couldn't quite make the words out). It was raw meat mixed with a raw egg, some green onions and a couple of other things. I thought it was pretty good.

Other strange things that I have eaten recently: raw cow liver, cooked cow stomach, intestine and heart, fish liver (not sure if it was cooked or not), some sort of snail (i'll put a picture below) and whole fish (pretty small but you just pick it up and eat it; head, bones, fins, guts and all). The only thing I wasn't wild about was the snail and thats because I swear it was half liver and I don't particularly care for the texture of cooked liver.

Snail Picture:

PHOENIXROSE

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 2:09 PM (P)

You know, I do really like curry. Something about it that just doesn't burn the same way. It's yum. And garlic!
TrogMan, I agree. Living up to stereotypes is dumb. There are a few I happen to fit; mostly though, not so much.

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MAGDALENA

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 2:45 PM (P)

Hi again - just checking in before going to bed...

Trogman - I love spicy food BUT as a girl I think it's not so attractive to be turning bright red and perspiring when in the company of others - especially if it's a date - so I usually limit myself to mild or medium when out and many of the people I cook for from time to time don't share my love of hot food!

Hey Goat - that's a bit like me - I couldn't really catch the name of what I ate either but it was yummy!

Gorgeous PR - if I start on stereo types I will never get to bed and I have to start work in a few hours!! suffice it to say that I agree! I don't find 'stereotypical' folk attractive - but they are out there too...again...

MsG - If my SO was truely 'the one' I would work hard to see that it did work out... I have friends in the army over here (Oz) and it's a bit of a rollercoaster for their families at times. Having said that when I was in my 20s I let the love of my life go to the US with no strings attached and since I had a ticket for the UK I thought we'd leave it to fate to see if we ended up together again... very healthy and sane but I often wonder what might have happened if I'd kept track and we'd been more flexible and communicative...

Well... Goodnight all - enjoy your morning/day/evening/night and see you soon! Big Mwaaah - Magdalena x x x

"I love my Captain!"

GED

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 3:00 PM (P)

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Originally posted by msg:
WHOA!! Just finished tutoring( babysitting) and boy we had a nasty flash flood level thunderstorm. Uprooted trees ( big old pine trees) etc... Power just came back on. My cold is clearing up..AND My husband has just made me the happiest person on earth. Even though he's not too pro on kids, he's agreed to try and we're going to have a baby!!!!!!!!! Happy dance of joy and rapture I truly have the best and most wonderful husband ever! sorry had to do that as I am about to pop...oh and my baby sis Margi is pregnant :)

Oh my gosh! Congrats MSG and MisterG!!!

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COPILOT

Wednesday, August 2, 2006 4:03 PM (P)

Congradulaitons you two!!! Children born to people such as yourself are incredably lucky!

Here's my joy today...my friend with benifits found out his mother had a huge brain tumor yesterday! So of course he came and stayed with me last night. How am I supposed to comfort him? I love him to death as one of best friends but I don't deal well with emotions! Well in general I don't feel much of anything but dead inside. I want to be here for him but I don't know if I can.

~Copilot's problem of the day~

An I carried such a torch

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