Out of Gas blooper

POSTED BY: TallGuy
UPDATED: Monday, October 1, 2007 12:15
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TALLGUY

Monday, December 15, 2003 7:30 PM

Don't know if anyone has pointed this out yet:

In OOG when Mal and Zoe are first looking at our girl (Serenity) and Mal is talking about his grand plans, when Mal says "maybe a cook" somebody drags one of the cables on the floor away. Gina watches it, looks up (obviously at the person dragging) and laughs. Looks like she's smiling at Mal unless you spot the cable. Next shot, most of the cables are gone.

Wacky fun.

I was surprised that it wasn't mentioned on the commentary.

Bill
"We all know I'm the funny one."
"You ain't all that funny."

WHOODAHN

Monday, December 15, 2003 8:33 PM

Is there a list of bloopers yet?
Wash flys without a yoke,
Inara flys with her yoke upside down,
Moving cables in OoG.

Has anyone spotted any more?

WYDRAZ

Tuesday, December 16, 2003 7:41 PM

The Message

Jayne's hat first has hay in it, later it seems he's cleaned it up, but some hay reappears again in one scene while he's in the cargo bay.

SHINY

Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:00 PM

In the commentary for The Message, Alan mentions a continuity error after he stole 'the big red button' from the set when he thought they were done and later they had to re-shoot some of the bridge scenes...but I couldn't find it.

RIVER
Purple elephants are flying.
MAL
Good. Thanks for the update.

HJERMSTED

Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:49 PM

Out of Gas:

Birthday cake scene... candle #5 is lit and then unlit and then lit.

mattro

DDAY82799

Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:03 PM

Don't know if anyone wants to start a new thread for this, but in "War Stories" after Zoe comes and gets Wash back and they cut off Mal's left ear. They show Zoe and Wash walking out of the room, then back to Mal. In that screen his right ear is cut off, not his left ear.

WHOODAHN

Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:29 PM

In the commentary for the Message, they talk about Inara finally getting straight hair. In Heart of Gold, she has curly hair.

KAYTHRYN

Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:59 PM

Ah!! You saw that too! I thought I was going crazy the first time I saw that.

Also, in The Message,

Select to view spoiler:

even though the blasts are shaking Serenity around and almost knocking everyone on their butts, Wash’s dinos never fall off the console.

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It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
Aristotle

ASTRIANA

Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:02 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by WhooDahn:
In the commentary for the Message, they talk about Inara finally getting straight hair. In Heart of Gold, she has curly hair.

Personally, I think I prefer Inara's hair curly and parted down the middle...

~A~

...I'm still free,
You can't take the sky from me.

KAYTHRYN

Tuesday, December 16, 2003 10:04 PM

Quote:
Posted by Wydraz:
Jayne's hat first has hay in it, later it seems he's cleaned it up, but some hay reappears again in one scene while he's in the cargo bay.

I always thought that was because he was rolling around in the hay filled box that Tracey was delivered in.

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It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
Aristotle

SHINY

Tuesday, December 16, 2003 11:49 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by WhooDahn:
In the commentary for the Message, they talk about Inara finally getting straight hair. In Heart of Gold, she has curly hair.

Why is that a blooper? Couldn't she have curled it in between the two?

RIVER
Purple elephants are flying.
MAL
Good. Thanks for the update.

WHOODAHN

Wednesday, December 17, 2003 12:05 AM

Quote:
Why is that a blooper? Couldn't she have curled it in between the two?

She could have curled it but in the 'Message' commentary they mention that she finally had her hair straightened. Does it look like naturally curly hair in HoG and OiS?

WHOODAHN

Wednesday, December 17, 2003 12:06 AM

Quote:
Why is that a blooper? Couldn't she have curled it in between the two?

She could have curled it but in the 'Message' commentary they mention that she finally had her hair straightened. Does it look like naturally curly hair in HoG and OiS?

SHINY

Wednesday, December 17, 2003 4:25 AM

Here's a good one I hadn't noticed or heard about before: watch Serenity and go to where Wash is driving the Mule out of the ship at the Eavestown Docks. Watch the front grille of the mule to see how the thing is *really* powered...

RIVER
Purple elephants are flying.
MAL
Good. Thanks for the update.

BEBE

Wednesday, December 17, 2003 4:35 AM

One little inconsistancy that I noticed was during the commentary for "Shindig" the costumer lady (I'm to lazy to look up her name right now) stated that Zoe necklace signified her bond to Wash and that she never took it off. Well, in the flashbacks in "Out of Gas" she is wearing the necklace even though she has yet to meet Wash, or is just meeting him for the first time. She also takes it off when she is nekkid in the bed with Wash, so she does take it off, which contradicts the costume lady.

JESSICALATA

Friday, December 19, 2003 11:40 AM

The first time I watched The Message, I noticed another hat blooper. When Jayne first takes his hat off when they're all around the coffin in the ship, there's a shot following that one of someone (Mal, I believe), with Jayne to the side of him, with his hat firmly on his head.

JESSICALATA

Friday, December 19, 2003 11:41 AM

The first time I watched The Message, I noticed another hat blooper. When Jayne first takes his hat off when they're all around the coffin in the ship, there's a shot following that one of someone (Mal, I believe), with Jayne to the side of him, with his hat firmly on his head.

MICRONAUT

Friday, December 19, 2003 1:17 PM

Another blooper (unrelated to OoG) is at the beginning of "Our Mrs Reynolds"... when Mal says farewell to the Elder, boards the ship, and closes the ramp, notice that there are several bushes near Serenity, not to mention a few colonists... notice that when the ship takes off, they are in the middle of a massive desert, with nary a bush or a colonist to be seen... of course, considering the pressure that the effects folks are under to produce movie quality FX on a TV budget, the glitch is pretty minor...

"Just remember... all success is illusion: what has really been accomplished is the displacement of an area of specific failure to somewhere else... or is it the other way around?"

MICRONAUT

Friday, December 19, 2003 1:17 PM

Oops... "error page glitch"... sorry

MICRONAUT

Friday, December 19, 2003 1:18 PM

And again... "error page glitch"... sorry

MICRONAUT

Friday, December 19, 2003 1:18 PM

Once more... "error page glitch"... sorry

KERNELM

Friday, December 19, 2003 4:37 PM

One thing I noticed a couple of times is the size of Serenity seems too large, notably in the teaser in TTJ (in the far shot), though I haven't analyzed that one too closely. The one I really noticed though was in "The Message" when the police ship is parked next to Serenity. Serenity seems to completely dwarf the police ship, like that ship would have only taken up half the cargo bay, and it definitely seemed larger than that before. Plus Wash seemed to imply that the police ship was larger than Serenity when Mal asks why they couldn't just come down and look for them. Has this struck anybody else? I really like all the effects work in general, but this just seemed weird.

SHINY

Monday, December 22, 2003 9:11 AM

Here's a glitch: look carefully at the opening sequence of Out of Gas, watch the stars near serenity -- especially to the lower left. You will notice that some of the stars move with serenity, while others are stationary -- looks like a sloppy cut and paste job. ;)

RIVER
Purple elephants are flying.
MAL
Good. Thanks for the update.

NOOCYTE

Monday, December 22, 2003 9:31 AM

Actually, that stuff is not stars, but bits of debris which were blown out of the cargo bay when Mal snuffed the fire. Since Serenity had stopped accellerating, it was still moving with the ship. So, this is pretty much the opposite of a blooper; a subtle bit of continuity which shows admirable (though, as we've seen not infallible) attention to detail.

Department of Redundancy Department

SAINT JAYNE

Saturday, January 24, 2004 9:37 PM

I just saw this: In Jaynestown they land Serenity near the mud pits and there is no one there. After they get out and walk over to the mud pits, there are suddenly dozens of people.

The best part is, Serenity is gone! I think Zoe must have taken off with it.

VETERAN

Saturday, January 24, 2004 11:00 PM

Quote:
in "War Stories" after Zoe comes and gets Wash back and they cut off Mal's left ear. They show Zoe and Wash walking out of the room, then back to Mal. In that screen his right ear is cut off, not his left ear.

I think you're fooled by the camera angle, it's his left ear all the time.

SHINY

Saturday, January 24, 2004 11:52 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Veteran:

Quote:
in "War Stories" after Zoe comes and gets Wash back and they cut off Mal's left ear. They show Zoe and Wash walking out of the room, then back to Mal. In that screen his right ear is cut off, not his left ear.

I think you're fooled by the camera angle, it's his left ear all the time.

Actually, I think there is one shot where the whole image is reversed accidentally (the buttons on Mal's shirt are on the wrong side too)

RIVER
Purple elephants are flying.
MAL
Good. Thanks for the update.

DRAGONWINE

Sunday, January 25, 2004 12:24 AM

That's not a blooper. Wash just knew he was gonna fly some rough atmo so he got himself some dino toys with magnets in the little feet. I mean who wants to pick up all those toys every time they go for a landing?

STATIC

Sunday, January 25, 2004 4:06 AM

Hey, Shiny. . .your 'purple elephants' line. . .where does that one come from?

"Wash. . .we got some local color happening. A grand entrance would not go amiss."

SHINY

Sunday, January 25, 2004 4:32 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Static:
Hey, Shiny. . .your 'purple elephants' line. . .where does that one come from?

http://www.fireflyfans.net/feature.asp?f=45

RIVER
Purple elephants are flying.
MAL
Good. Thanks for the update.

PUMAMANREDUX

Sunday, January 25, 2004 4:45 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by WhooDahn:
Quote:
Why is that a blooper? Couldn't she have curled it in between the two?

She could have curled it but in the 'Message' commentary they mention that she finally had her hair straightened. Does it look like naturally curly hair in HoG and OiS?

When were all the episodes filmed ? Check the finish date ... this might shed light on the problem at hand ... not to mention shows in some cases were originally shown out of order ...

Drama is life with the dull bits cut out. (Alfred Hitchcock)

JRC

Sunday, January 25, 2004 5:24 AM

In the pilot, when the Reavers come back to the planet looking for Serenity, check the size of Serenity compared to the Reaver ship. Sometimes the Reaver ship looks huge, then in other scenes, both ships look not so different.

Talk peace but, carry a BIG stick.

LOADANDMAKEREADY

Wednesday, January 28, 2004 5:20 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by WhooDahn:
Is there a list of bloopers yet?
Wash flys without a yoke,
Inara flys with her yoke upside down,
Moving cables in OoG.

Has anyone spotted any more?

In Bushwacked, when Jayne is telling Simon to get suited up and come along, he loads his Smith & Wesson revolver, and holsters it. Said revolver has a C-More(TM) electronic dot sight mounted on top.

Later, on the ship which has been attacked by Reavers, he is holding a completely different revolver. It appears to be a kluged up Colt 1860-type cap and ball revolver -- no top strap over the cylinder. It also appears to have a fast draw-type hammer ... and no C-More sight.

DIGITALOUTBREAK

Wednesday, January 28, 2004 12:06 PM

Shindig = Inara switches from Atherton's right arm to his left arm in between takes.

Serenity = (Hard one to explain) When preforming the crazy Ivan, the thruster on the side of serenity flips backward, however IIRC its the port (left thrustrer, this would make Serenity spin counter clockwise, yet in the next shot, the port thruster is strait ahead and the starboard thruster is backward.

Large continuity error in alot of episodes = Every time the two side engines are on/glowing while the ship is in space. They are turboprop-hybrids of some sort and cant operate unless they are surrounded by atmo/oxygen, like Jaynes gun.

CALHOUN

Wednesday, January 28, 2004 12:39 PM

Yeah, with regards "the ear" blooper, I just checked and there is definitely 1 scene - just as Niska's henchman first attaches the special torture tool to Mal's chest. This scene does indeed appear to be inverted. Why would they do that?

SAINT JAYNE

Wednesday, January 28, 2004 3:30 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by digitaloutbreak:
Large continuity error in alot of episodes = Every time the two side engines are on/glowing while the ship is in space. They are turboprop-hybrids of some sort and cant operate unless they are surrounded by atmo/oxygen, like Jaynes gun.

Instead of the engines being wrong, perhaps you simply do not understand all that they are capable of.

VETERAN

Thursday, January 29, 2004 5:06 AM

I'll take a look. Do you think it's somehow a mirror image, like the frame was attached backward or something? I don't see how they could do the makeup wrong unless the scene was shot two different days.

SHINY

Thursday, January 29, 2004 6:38 AM

Yes, there was a mirror-image on one shot in War stories for some reason...I was far more annoyed by the inverting of the crazy ivan engine flipping CGI shots (turned the normal way first, then turned around backwards second!)

RIVER
Purple elephants are flying.
MAL
Good. Thanks for the update.

ALFERDPACKER

Thursday, January 29, 2004 6:46 AM

I don't have my DVDs handy so I can't check.

Does Jayne say something about River being a "mind reading genius" in The Message? It was my understanding that Jayne didn't find out about River unti OiS.

I think the line is "Girl's a mind reading genius but she can't figure out how to eat an ice planet."

CIARA

Thursday, January 29, 2004 1:24 PM

about the backwards Mal scene:

I assumed it was a design choice--oftetimes the scenes won't flow properly, they want one scene to be from THIS angle---the next to be from THAT angle--to give some variety..Joss is huge about changing around the camera angles. Maybe it was just an aesthetic thing.

Just a humble supplicant in service to all things Joss

THALOS

Thursday, January 29, 2004 1:45 PM

In Jaynsetown, when Simon is acting as the buyer the foreman mudder slaps him on the back and leaves a muddy handprint there. However, when we see the group from behind walking up to Jayne's statue we see that the muddy hand print is gone.

Also, IMHO, Jayne calling River a "genius mind reader" in "The Message" is reasonable since it is common knowledge that she is a genius and even Jayne has figured out by now that she is intuative.

"Whoa, good Bible."

SPIKESPIEGEL

Thursday, January 29, 2004 10:30 PM

Not exactly a blooper, but laughable:

Before the DVDs came out, one of my fave, most-remembered scenes was Shindig, Mal just stabbing Atherton for the sheer malice of it. But watching it on DVD a couple times, I eventually noticed that where they show Mal stabbing him ... two or three times ... it's SO obvious the blade isn't even breaking the fabric of Atherton's clothing. I don't need to see a lot of blood in my TV (though I HATE when people get stabbed/slashed and the blade comes out totally clean), but if you're gonna do a closeup of someone getting stabbed, rig the freakin' effect right ...

(or would this be the third time I've posted today and turned out to have remembered wrongly?)

"Bang."

SHINY

Thursday, January 29, 2004 10:32 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Thalos:
Also, IMHO, Jayne calling River a "genius mind reader" in "The Message" is reasonable since it is common knowledge that she is a genius and even Jayne has figured out by now that she is intuative.

The the blooper is in "Objects in Space" when Jayne appears so surprised "you mean she really reads minds?!?! I don't like the idea of people knowin' what I'm thinking!"

RIVER
Purple elephants are flying.
MAL
Good. Thanks for the update.

LYRALYON

Friday, January 30, 2004 2:20 AM

I'm not sure if this counts as a full on blooper, but... in The Train Job, right at the end when Simon is stitching up Mal's shoulder. Mal lets out a little yell and if you watch Sean's face closely you can see him start to laugh, then kind of clear his throught to cover it up. Kind of a cute little moment.

Facts compel me to conclude that my brain was never formed for much thinking.-Charles Darwin

DIGITALOUTBREAK

Friday, January 30, 2004 2:35 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Saint Jayne:
Quote:
Originally posted by digitaloutbreak:
Large continuity error in alot of episodes = Every time the two side engines are on/glowing while the ship is in space. They are turboprop-hybrids of some sort and cant operate unless they are surrounded by atmo/oxygen, like Jaynes gun.

Instead of the engines being wrong, perhaps you simply do not understand all that they are capable of.

Normaly I am very cautious about jumping to conclusions like this, however there would be no need to have fans on the front of the engines if they did not need an atmosphere to operate in. Also, I believe that in one of the comentaries, as Serenity leaves the atmo Joss says the engines stop because they don't work in space, I'm gonna watch the commentaries for serenity/train job now and I'll let you know if its in those two. Im not a nit picky person I just think its intresting :)

[::EDIT::] In serenity on the second to last chapter, When Serenity leaves atmo the engines choke and cut out, and Joss says, and the engines turn/go (sorry not quite sure) because its space.

SHINY

Friday, January 30, 2004 4:15 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by LyraLyon:
I'm not sure if this counts as a full on blooper, but... in The Train Job, right at the end when Simon is stitching up Mal's shoulder. Mal lets out a little yell and if you watch Sean's face closely you can see him start to laugh, then kind of clear his throught to cover it up. Kind of a cute little moment.

Yeah, I noticed that too. Although it works in the scene too (Simon trying not to laugh at the big tough captain wincing at a little stich), I agree that it was really Sean trying not to crack up at Nathan's comedic yelp (as opposed to a 'barbaric yawp')

RIVER
Purple elephants are flying.
MAL
Good. Thanks for the update.

SERENA

Friday, January 30, 2004 6:45 AM

Ha! I just got the DVD set today and watched Out of Gas. Couldn't help but notice the cables appear and dissapear after having read your post, and it made me laugh.

FIREFLYTHEMOVIE

Sunday, February 1, 2004 3:54 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by digitaloutbreak:

Normaly I am very cautious about jumping to conclusions like this, however there would be no need to have fans on the front of the engines if they did not need an atmosphere to operate in. Also, I believe that in one of the comentaries, as Serenity leaves the atmo Joss says the engines stop because they don't work in space, I'm gonna watch the commentaries for serenity/train job now and I'll let you know if its in those two. Im not a nit picky person I just think its intresting :)

[::EDIT::] In serenity on the second to last chapter, When Serenity leaves atmo the engines choke and cut out, and Joss says, and the engines turn/go (sorry not quite sure) because its space.

Just catching up on this. I don't think it's an error at all: the engines have fans because they -can- work in atmo. It's entirely reasonable that they'd work differently in atmo vs. in space, because different things are more efficient in thick air vs. an empty vacuum.

Also, Joss says, "And then the engines cut off, because it's space." Not because they don't work in space, but because there's no friction to slow you down in space, so you get going in the direction you want, at the speed you want, then shut everything down and let inertia do the rest, until you feel a need to change speed or direction.

FIREFLYWILDCARD1

Sunday, February 1, 2004 6:13 PM

Another blooper of sorts in Out of Gas - Mal's pants never get bloody even though he's losing a lot of blood. The costume/props people missed that little detail.

THEBUTCHER

Tuesday, February 3, 2004 12:28 AM

Pointed by Joss in the commentary:
In "Serenity", at the end, we see that Wash isn't holding his "joystick" or the thing to control the ship! They didn't see it in post, so they put it in the episode.

SHINY

Friday, February 13, 2004 2:28 AM

Extremely nit-picky one: In Bushwhacked, when Zoe says "Ship powered down on its own" there's no static-y clicking sound of the suit communicators turning on and off before and after she speaks, although the sound is present in all of her other lines while suited.

RIVER
Purple elephants are flying.
MAL
Good. Thanks for the update.

AERRIN

Friday, February 13, 2004 2:35 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by WhooDahn:
Quote:
Why is that a blooper? Couldn't she have curled it in between the two?

She could have curled it but in the 'Message' commentary they mention that she finally had her hair straightened. Does it look like naturally curly hair in HoG and OiS?

Yeah, actually, it does - or more specifically, it looks like someone who has naturally curly hair and has 'helped' it along to make the curls more perfect. I have a friend who has lovely, amazing curls naturally, and then she finishes it off by spiraling with a curling iron, to make them look neater. Hot rollers do the same thing for my own (curly) hair - take it from a messy curl to something like what Inara's looks like.

And both of us can wear it straight as Inara's was. So I think it'd /quite/ possible to have that change in looks naturally. It just takes a bit of patience with a straightening iron and the right hair products.

WILDHEAVENFARM

Friday, February 13, 2004 3:18 AM

Actually, it's called excelsior. It's wood shavings. I use them as a decorative packing material in my busines. You're totally right, btw, just had to stick in my goat-herding professionalism.

Quote:
Originally posted by wydraz:
The Message

Jayne's hat first has hay in it, later it seems he's cleaned it up, but some hay reappears again in one scene while he's in the cargo bay.

Mary
Always a beast, never a burden.

CUDA

Friday, February 13, 2004 4:37 AM

I think Wash was implying that Serenity wasn't a small ship, and could be spotted eventually.

FLYINFREE

Friday, February 13, 2004 7:45 AM

Quote:
Does Jayne say something about River being a "mind reading genius" in The Message? It was my understanding that Jayne didn't find out about River unti OiS.

I think the line is "Girl's a mind reading genius but she can't figure out how to eat an ice planet."

Objects in Space was supposed to be BEFORE Trash, The Message & Heart of Gold. Joss, for his own reasons, wanted it moved to the end and even refilmed one scene to try to make it fit, but all the references to River in the 4 episodes are completely out of whack if OiS is put last and since the refilmed scene OiS doesn't fit anywhere now. I LOVE Firefly but what Joss did with OiS bugs the shit out of me!

"...we're still flyin'."
"That's not much."
"It's enough." Malcolm Reynolds and Simon Tam - Serenity

COSMICCONCUBINE

Friday, February 13, 2004 3:42 PM

Quote:

Posted by Wydraz:
Jayne's hat first has hay in it, later it seems he's cleaned it up, but some hay reappears again in one scene while he's in the cargo bay.
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Posted by Kaythryn:
I always thought that was because he was rolling around in the hay filled box that Tracey was delivered in.

I think Kaythryn is right. Alan Tudyk points out this same blooper on the commentary but when you watch that scene Jayne is checking out the crate that held Tracey's coffin and it's filled with hay.

"Sir, I think you have a problem with your brain being missing."

OKKAY

Friday, February 13, 2004 5:25 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by FlyinFree:
Quote:
Does Jayne say something about River being a "mind reading genius" in The Message? It was my understanding that Jayne didn't find out about River unti OiS.

I think the line is "Girl's a mind reading genius but she can't figure out how to eat an ice planet."
Objects in Space was supposed to be BEFORE Trash, The Message & Heart of Gold. Joss, for his own reasons, wanted it moved to the end and even refilmed one scene to try to make it fit, but all the references to River in the 4 episodes are completely out of whack if OiS is put last and since the refilmed scene OiS doesn't fit anywhere now. I LOVE Firefly but what Joss did with OiS bugs the shit out of me!

"...we're still flyin'."
"That's not much."
"It's enough." Malcolm Reynolds and Simon Tam - Serenity

Actually, from what I understand, OiS was supposed to air 14th, after HoG. However, Fox decided to air OiS before HoG was shown, which meant Joss had to reshoot the scene where Mal and Inara are talking about her leaving. The DVDs were done in the order originally intended.

Speaking of bloopers, a couple I noticed:

In Trash, when Wash is doing his "WHAT'S SHE DOING ON THIS SHIP?!" thing, you can see Kaylee/Jewel start cracking up. Probably wasn't done on purpose.

The other one is in Out of Gas, with the ship-wide "Life Support Failure" warning being repeated in Cantonese, rather than Mandarin. Unless Serenity was built and meant to be used in an area which was predominantly Cantonese, this wouldn't make sense.

SHINY

Friday, February 13, 2004 6:45 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Okkay:
Speaking of bloopers, a couple I noticed:

In Trash, when Wash is doing his "WHAT'S SHE DOING ON THIS SHIP?!" thing, you can see Kaylee/Jewel start cracking up. Probably wasn't done on purpose.

Although it's possible it was on purpose, because remember they are all trying to 'play' Saffron and as Inara said at the end, not all of the crew's performances were that great. I thought both Alan Tudyk and Jewel Staite were trying to over-do it a little in that scene since Wash and Kaylee aren't supposed to be that great at the subterfuge thing.

RIVER
Purple elephants are flying.
MAL
Good. Thanks for the update.

SAINT JAYNE

Saturday, February 14, 2004 2:09 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Okkay:
In Trash, when Wash is doing his "WHAT'S SHE DOING ON THIS SHIP?!" thing, you can see Kaylee/Jewel start cracking up. Probably wasn't done on purpose.

"Probably wasn't done on purpose" is hardly a blooper. Actors "act", which means adding to the script when they feel it is necessary. The director left it in, so it's not a mistake.

Quote:
The other one is in Out of Gas, with the ship-wide "Life Support Failure" warning being repeated in Cantonese, rather than Mandarin. Unless Serenity was built and meant to be used in an area which was predominantly Cantonese, this wouldn't make sense.

What's wrong with Cantonese? Even if other messages on the ship were in Mandarin, I wouldn't call it a blooper. Different parts of the ship manufactured by different companies.

SHINY

Saturday, February 28, 2004 2:40 AM

I just re-watched Heart of Gold and if you look carefully, as Burgess is backing out of the door with the baby and turns to point his laser gun towards the approaching Nandi, you can see he's holding a doll instead of a real baby (although there's a real baby before and after)...maybe it had to be re-shot and the/a baby wasn't available?

RIVER
Purple elephants are flying.
MAL
Good. Thanks for the update.

NEROLI

Saturday, February 28, 2004 3:56 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Shiny:
Quote:
Originally posted by Thalos:
Also, IMHO, Jayne calling River a "genius mind reader" in "The Message" is reasonable since it is common knowledge that she is a genius and even Jayne has figured out by now that she is intuative.

The the blooper is in "Objects in Space" when Jayne appears so surprised "you mean she really reads minds?!?! I don't like the idea of people knowin' what I'm thinking!"

RIVER
Purple elephants are flying.
MAL
Good. Thanks for the update.

Actually, since he DOES say "you mean she really reads minds" one could assume the "mind reading genius" comment he made in "The Message" was meant as a joke on Jayne's part and he was surprised his joking comment was actually true.

CHRONOS

Saturday, February 28, 2004 9:50 AM

I noticed in Safe, when Mal is trying to sell the cows and the buyer complains they haven't been fed properly, Mal says he'd been feeding them milk and hay three times a day. Well I don't think you feed milk to cows. Should say water. If they drank milk, you could just link some tubes from their udders to the mouth.

Take me out to the black, tell them I ain't coming back

IAMJACKSUSERNAME

Monday, March 1, 2004 12:14 PM

On my taped copy of Ariel (stil waiting for DVD region 2) the spanner Mal uses to whack Jayne dissapears as he's hitting him. Looks like they forgot, or didn't have time, to cgi it in. Is this mentioned in the commentaries?

Also, I recently saw Lost in translation with several visible booms. If filmmakers don't have a cgi budget, can't they just edit the shot - maybe cut off the top end and slightly stretch it, or shift the whole visible area down?

--
I am Jack's username
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TALLGUY

Monday, March 1, 2004 2:49 PM

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Originally posted by IamJacksUsername:
Also, I recently saw Lost in translation with several visible booms. If filmmakers don't have a cgi budget, can't they just edit the shot - maybe cut off the top end and slightly stretch it, or shift the whole visible area down?

Actually, the problem would not have been with the film, but with your projectionist. There is a lot more information that is caught on a film than is intended to be seen. When a film is projected it's intended to be "framed" in such a way so you only see as much as the filmmaker intended. Just as if you were watching a film where the projectionist framed the film too tightly and cut of folk's heads.

Roger Ebert harps on this fairly regularly.

Bill
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"You ain't all that funny."

IAMJACKSUSERNAME

Monday, March 1, 2004 3:51 PM

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Originally posted by TallGuy:
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several visible booms

Actually, the problem would not have been with the film, but with your projectionist.

Why include something in the reels that shouldn't be displayed, and might be?
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XENARC

Monday, March 1, 2004 4:14 PM

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Originally posted by Chronos:
I noticed in Safe, Should say water. If they drank milk, you could just link some tubes from their udders to the mouth.

I didn't take that as a blooper, just as Mal being a salemen/smartass.

I think it was intentional in the script.

XenArc

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EPRESSMAN617

Tuesday, March 16, 2004 10:00 AM

just a general note on bloopers.....I don't think anybody posted this, and if they did then just ignore me.......
You can find bloopers for just about anything, movies or TV, at www.imdb.com (along with trivia, credits, clips, artwork, etc.) If you've watched the commentary, there's not much to see there for Firefly, but it is a pretty reliable place for info (such as the famous Book/No Book scandal. They haven't posted on it yet, but when they do, it will be the truth, not just rumor.)
Anyway, just thought I'd throw that out there as it's a nice resource for fans......

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Simon: No, but I'm thinking about growing a big black mustache. I'm a traditionalist.

KALIMEERI

Tuesday, March 16, 2004 11:09 AM

Anybody notice the car (I think) driving left to right across the very back of the screen in War Stories, when Jayne and Book and Zoe notice the burn pattern?

Jen dao mei.

BROWNCOAT1

Tuesday, March 16, 2004 1:10 PM

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Originally posted by kalimeeri:
Anybody notice the car (I think) driving left to right across the very back of the screen in War Stories, when Jayne and Book and Zoe notice the burn pattern?

Jen dao mei.

I had not noticed in car in that scene, but I will go home this evening & watch the episode to see if I can catch it.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

KOZURE

Tuesday, March 16, 2004 4:03 PM

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Originally posted by Chronos:
I noticed in Safe, when Mal is trying to sell the cows and the buyer complains they haven't been fed properly, Mal says he'd been feeding them milk and hay three times a day. Well I don't think you feed milk to cows. Should say water. If they drank milk, you could just link some tubes from their udders to the mouth.

Take me out to the black, tell them I ain't coming back

As Xenarc mentions, this appears to be part of the salespitch. I think it's a smart-alex reference to "milk-fed veal" which is supposedly more tender and valuable... some cattle are actually milk-fed. Of course, these animals are neither veal calves nor would they actually be milk-fed, but the mental image of beautiful women handfeeding hay and milk to cows makes them sound like they've been very well treated.

I think this is Mal's tongue in cheek response to the accusation that the animals haven't been well fed. "Crap talk" as he puts it, in Mandarin.

Mal's just bantering in the time-honoured tradition of haggling.

Kozure the Kamikaze Highlander

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DECKROID

Tuesday, March 16, 2004 4:08 PM

Um... about the hay in Jayne's hat...

The hat is first covered with shipping 'hay' from the box his Ma used as filler. The second time we see Jayne's hat covered with shipping 'hay' is when he is breaking down the crate, also filled with shipping 'hay'. If you notice, he is tearing the wood to tiny pieces and they shipping 'hay' is all about him.

I know this to be true because I have watched this episode many, many times. Of course, I could be wrong.

I call her "Vera"

BLINKER

Tuesday, March 16, 2004 5:37 PM

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Anybody notice the car (I think) driving left to right across the very back of the screen in War Stories, when Jayne and Book and Zoe notice the burn pattern?

Wow, nice catch there.

Shortly after Zoe says 'they weren't after the goods,' look for a long shot of all three of them walking through the desert. To the left of the screen, there's a highway visible in the distance - one car going left, another going right.

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SHINY

Tuesday, March 16, 2004 6:02 PM

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Originally posted by DeckRoid:
Um... about the hay in Jayne's hat...

The hat is first covered with shipping 'hay' from the box his Ma used as filler. The second time we see Jayne's hat covered with shipping 'hay' is when he is breaking down the crate, also filled with shipping 'hay'. If you notice, he is tearing the wood to tiny pieces and they shipping 'hay' is all about him.

I know this to be true because I have watched this episode many, many times. Of course, I could be wrong.

If you listen to the commentary for 'The Message', Alan Tudyk points out the exact scenes where it doesn't make sense that the hay disappears and then re-appears while Jayne's in the infirmary...

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OCELOTWREAK

Tuesday, March 16, 2004 10:47 PM

I saw that as well, but I figured it was not the true mule locomotion but instead an extra bit help to steady the mule and stop it at an exact spot, so that it was properly framed for the camera shot.

Interestingly, it only is visible in the bottom right hand corner when playing the DVD on my PowerBook. if I play the DVD on my TV, then that blooper in the corner is not visible (probably my cheap TV screen).

-Ocelot Wreak.

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THECRAZYIVAN

Wednesday, March 17, 2004 5:52 AM

good spots...lol

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ZORIAH

Wednesday, March 17, 2004 6:14 AM

One that noone seems to have spotted:

In The Train Job there is a muslim lady in a burkha on the train. In the scene where everyone has to get off, you can see the veiled woman now carrying a baby in the background while Zoe and Mal are in the foreground.

Watch her, a jeep passes by her quite slowly and she doesn't notice and walks right into it, baby's head first !

BROWNCOAT1

Wednesday, March 17, 2004 2:39 PM

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Originally posted by Zoriah:
One that noone seems to have spotted:

In The Train Job there is a muslim lady in a burkha on the train. In the scene where everyone has to get off, you can see the veiled woman now carrying a baby in the background while Zoe and Mal are in the foreground.

Watch her, a jeep passes by her quite slowly and she doesn't notice and walks right into it, baby's head first !

I totally missed the lady walking into the jeep. I will have to try to catch that next time I watch Train Job.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

SPLIBERTARIAN

Wednesday, March 17, 2004 4:20 PM

One detail I've appreciated is how the tear in the left arm of Mal's coat is mended. (We see it get torn when he gets grazed during the shootout with Patience in Serenity)

There are, however, two instances where the mend is there when it shouldn't be: the flashback scene in Out of Gas, and the scene in Serenity where Mal and Zoe discuss shooting the passengers "politely" if they get too nosy (a scene which Joss describes as a "reshoot" in the commentary).

SAMURAIX47

Wednesday, March 17, 2004 6:45 PM

If you play a dvd on your pc or laptop the player will display the whole digital picture on your screen. When playing a dvd on your television the edges will get cut off by the edge of your screen because the video picture on a TV is overscanned.

For an example... if you take a 640x480 pixel picture and display it in NTSC video format on a television... 5% of the outer edge of the picture will extend past the edge of the visible TV screen. Take the same 640x480 picture and display it on a computer screen and you'll see the whole thing. Computer screens are underscan. TV is overscan. There are parts of the NTSC video signal that are visible at the top that would be distracting so TV manufacturers frame in the picture tube screen to hide that part of the picture. This has been going on for many decades.

But now with the advent of digital projection, LCD, Plasma, and DLP televisions they can digitally cut off that top edge and present just the intended visible picture.

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I saw that as well, but I figured it was not the true mule locomotion but instead an extra bit help to steady the mule and stop it at an exact spot, so that it was properly framed for the camera shot.

Interestingly, it only is visible in the bottom right hand corner when playing the DVD on my PowerBook. if I play the DVD on my TV, then that blooper in the corner is not visible (probably my cheap TV screen).

Jaymes

ITSALLSHINY

Wednesday, March 17, 2004 6:54 PM

Here's the biggest blooper of them all -- in OoG, where Mal makes his way to the infirmary and shoots himself in the heart with adrenaline -- in real life, this would have put him very quickly first into cardiac fibrillation and then into cardiac arrest and the show would have ended right there! "You're dead, Mal..."

Yeah, yeah, I know, it isn't ER, but Joss really screwed up on this one, especially since he had Gina shot up beforehand specifically to set up for Mal doing that to himself.

Kids, don't try this at home...

ZORIAH

Thursday, March 18, 2004 6:50 AM

Wasn't this Tim Minear's screw up *wink* - I think he wrote and directed OoG. Still, it seems a big gaff doesn't it? I've seen it done on people whose hearts have stopped beating in movies but don't recall anyone stabbing their own heart with adrenaline. I do remember Aeryn's mother on Farscape taking an adrenaline drug/shot but it certainly wasn't direct to the heart like what Mal did.

ITSALLSHINY

Thursday, March 18, 2004 3:30 PM

Tim did write it. As co-Executive Producers both Tim and Joss are culpable and clueless to what an addrenaline shot to the heart would do to a man.

Silly boys -- looking for excitement...

Don't get me wrong -- I love OoG (my favorite episode). Perfect flashback within flashback technique, plenty of memorable lines, wonderful crew interaction, terrific story -- all shiny. It's just that the whole scene was so unnecessary to carry the story and I really had to consciously 'suspend disbelief' to get back into the episode.

GUNRUNNER

Friday, March 19, 2004 4:34 AM

I've found a blooper. In Serenity when they are braking in to the hold of the deralict you can see the stuff "Sticky" uses to "boil" the door lock before its been applyed.

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DELIA

Monday, March 22, 2004 5:35 AM

Here's another, that I noticed rewatching Shindig this weekend. At one point, while Mal and Inara are dancing, you can see Morena's microphone slip out of the back of her dress at the waist.

GWENDYDD

Monday, March 22, 2004 5:44 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by WhooDahn:
In the commentary for the Message, they talk about Inara finally getting straight hair. In Heart of Gold, she has curly hair.

Ah, ah, ah, Heart of Gold takes place before The Message. It would makes sense for her to have curly hair in Heart of Gold, because it chronologically comes before The Message.

Shiny!

PEACE

Monday, March 22, 2004 6:56 AM

Originally posted by Tallguy:

Quote:
Actually, the problem would not have been with the film, but with your projectionist. There is a lot more information that is caught on a film than is intended to be seen. When a film is projected it's intended to be "framed" in such a way so you only see as much as the filmmaker intended. Just as if you were watching a film where the projectionist framed the film too tightly and cut of folk's heads.

Roger Ebert harps on this fairly regularly.

I saw this once, years ago, at a showing of "Time Bandits". In one sequence you could see the mike on its boom, first pointing to one character, then another, as they spoke. It went on so long that the audience began to shout for the projectionist to put down his doobie and fix it.

Since it was in Santa Cruz, CA, it's quite possible they were right....

Oh, bugger! Now I have to wait for someone to wake up!

ANGELDOVE

Monday, March 22, 2004 7:15 AM

OK, I'm not sure if this has been commented on yet, or even if I saw it correctly (I loaned out my DVD's and am still awaiting their return anxiously) In Ariel, when Jayne gets shot by the Alliance, was he handcuffed before he was shot, then not when he hit the ground. I remember that bothering me the last time I watched though I didn't go back and check to see if I saw it correctly.

I only fell is all.

KALIMEERI

Monday, March 22, 2004 11:56 AM

Got to go back and look at that myself. They were in the process of handcuffing him, but it may be that he broke away before they finished; i.e., only one hand. Things go by so fast sometimes you miss them, like in the next sequence I was thinking "no, he was handcuffed in back, and now his hands are in front.." but then there was that quick little shot of him scooting his feet through. Hats off to Jayne for that one, couldn't have been easy for somebody that big and muscular..LOL

Jen dao mei.

SOUNDHACK

Monday, March 22, 2004 6:04 PM

I thought it was that too at first. But there's another problem. If the debris was 'blown out' of the cargo bay, wouldnt it still be moving outwards with respect to Serenity? It couldnt all of a sudden stop with respect to the ship, since there is no friction or any force stopping it.

Quote:
Originally posted by Noocyte:
Actually, that stuff is not stars, but bits of debris which were blown out of the cargo bay when Mal snuffed the fire. Since Serenity had stopped accellerating, it was still moving with the ship. So, this is pretty much the opposite of a blooper; a subtle bit of continuity which shows admirable (though, as we've seen not infallible) attention to detail.

Department of Redundancy Department

THRAWN

Monday, March 22, 2004 6:49 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by soundhack:
I thought it was that too at first. But there's another problem. If the debris was 'blown out' of the cargo bay, wouldnt it still be moving outwards with respect to Serenity? It couldnt all of a sudden stop with respect to the ship, since there is no friction or any force stopping it.

Quote:
Originally posted by Noocyte:
Actually, that stuff is not stars, but bits of debris which were blown out of the cargo bay when Mal snuffed the fire. Since Serenity had stopped accellerating, it was still moving with the ship. So, this is pretty much the opposite of a blooper; a subtle bit of continuity which shows admirable (though, as we've seen not infallible) attention to detail.

Department of Redundancy Department

And another problem - we see later in the episode that, just before Mal falls down to the floor of the cargo bay, the other ship is still there. The episode opens with a shot of Serenity with nothing anywhere nearby. The two exterior shots should take place at exactly the same moment in time, but they're very different.

JAHZARA

Monday, March 22, 2004 7:14 PM

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Originally posted by SpikeSpiegel:
Not exactly a blooper, but laughable:

Before the DVDs came out, one of my fave, most-remembered scenes was Shindig, Mal just stabbing Atherton for the sheer malice of it. But watching it on DVD a couple times, I eventually noticed that where they show Mal stabbing him ... two or three times ... it's SO obvious the blade isn't even breaking the fabric of Atherton's clothing. I don't need to see a lot of blood in my TV (though I HATE when people get stabbed/slashed and the blade comes out totally clean), but if you're gonna do a closeup of someone getting stabbed, rig the freakin' effect right ...

(or would this be the third time I've posted today and turned out to have remembered wrongly?)

"Bang."

Oh, I'm so there with you. I love that line, but it just irritates me to no end how fake the stabbing looks. Ugh!

And also...
In Heart of Gold, the shot when the girl who's betrayed Nandi lets Rance in, there is a HUGE TRUCK or TRAILER thing behind him. The first time I saw it I could not believe it. It's really hard to see 'cause it's really fast. I had to slow it down to see a glimpse of what it was.

SHINY

Tuesday, April 6, 2004 12:26 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Thrawn:
And another problem - we see later in the episode that, just before Mal falls down to the floor of the cargo bay, the other ship is still there. The episode opens with a shot of Serenity with nothing anywhere nearby. The two exterior shots should take place at exactly the same moment in time, but they're very different.

Yes, but with all the cutting back and forth between time-frames, I suppose this could be easily explained away by claiming the first shot was actually just prior to the second ship arriving, and then when they cut into the interior of the cargo bay to see Mal collapse, it's actually a few hours later...

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SHINY

Tuesday, April 6, 2004 12:27 AM

Incidentally, I've tried to archive all of the mentioned bloopers on the browncoats.com site here:

http://www.browncoats.com/main.php?parent=405a8603e9a13&line=3e546f888
09e9

Please let me know if I've missed anything or mis-attributed anything, or if you've come across any other interesting bloopers/easter eggs.

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DARKARCHON

Tuesday, April 6, 2004 2:23 PM

I more noticed the stationary 'lamp' that looked like set lighting than the cords but, on the same page.

"Two by two, hands of blue..."

CYBERSNARK

Tuesday, April 6, 2004 3:07 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jahzara:
In Heart of Gold, the shot when the girl who's betrayed Nandi lets Rance in, there is a HUGE TRUCK or TRAILER thing behind him. The first time I saw it I could not believe it. It's really hard to see 'cause it's really fast. I had to slow it down to see a glimpse of what it was.

I spotted that the first time I saw it, and figured it was just some kinda peripheral to the house (y'know, like a backup generator or comm gear, or supply storehouse or something).

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Saturday, September 29, 2007 6:12 PM

In The Train Job you can see a camera man to the right of the screen when Wash runs down one of Niska's men on the Mule as he is going down the door/ramp of Serenity.

- See Here.

BULLET0IN0THE0BRAINPAN0SQUISH

Monday, October 1, 2007 8:22 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SpikeSpiegel:
Not exactly a blooper, but laughable:

Before the DVDs came out, one of my fave, most-remembered scenes was Shindig, Mal just stabbing Atherton for the sheer malice of it. But watching it on DVD a couple times, I eventually noticed that where they show Mal stabbing him ... two or three times ... it's SO obvious the blade isn't even breaking the fabric of Atherton's clothing. I don't need to see a lot of blood in my TV (though I HATE when people get stabbed/slashed and the blade comes out totally clean), but if you're gonna do a closeup of someone getting stabbed, rig the freakin' effect right ...

(or would this be the third time I've posted today and turned out to have remembered wrongly?)

"Bang."

i thought Atherton was being poked. Won't that be incredibly annoying? Hehe.

~This must be what going mad feels like. -Dr. Simon Tam, "Jaynestown"

MRBEN

Monday, October 1, 2007 12:15 PM

Can believe no-one's mentioned this yet:

In Ariel in all the shots of the ambulance, you can see a set of wheels underneath the left-hand "landing gear" partially draped in black cloth. Looking closely, you can see the set under the other gear have been fully draped.

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