Joss posted this here thing for you...

POSTED BY: AllysonGurl
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ALLYSONGURL

Sunday, January 25, 2004 8:11 PM

joss - Jan 25, 2004 11:56:02 am PST #4374 of 4375 Mark
"What's the rumpus?"

Hey guys. Sorry to go wildly off-topic (and bring up Firefly), but I need a favor. I tried to post something on Fireflyfans.net discussion about "Fireflygasms" (no, it's not as shippery as it sounds.) Anyhoo, I can't seem to log in, 'cause I work the computer like I'm wearing Strongbad's gloves and I really wanted to post something there. So I'm gonna write it out here and hope 'n' pray (to the meaningless void) that one of y'all will be kind enough to kick it over to that thread. Okay then:

______________________

Dear fan type postguys --

Checking in to say: Rough @%&$#ing week. Trying to work the movie deal, juggling so many balls and dropping them all, basically ending the week going, "I'm done. I'm tapped. Last man down, I don't even think I can do this." Then I hap on this thread, hear all those kick moments and all y'all cooing over them, and I remember why I'm fighting so hard. So when you here dorky sounding things like "The fans' support kept us going", know that on occasion it is not only literally but very specifically true. As in, today. Thanks already.

And, more importantly:

-- Inara on the bed in Mal's room saying "I just hit my head is all". Deep funny.

-- River on the railing. Batgirl!

-- "Little man Loooved fire."

-- "They were little geisha dolls with big heads that wobbled!" "People LOVE those!" Kai made me rewind that four times.

-- "Dear Diary. Today I was pompous and my sister was crazy."

-- "Have you ever been with a warrior woman?"

-- "She ain't moving." When you think Kaylee's talking about Zoe and realize she means Serenity. And every time the lights first flicker in that show I've forgotten what ep I'm in and I get very worried.

-- The part where the crew finds out about River's REAL... oh wait. That's the movie. Never mind.

Or mind in a while.

Thanks again.

-j.

VETERAN

Sunday, January 25, 2004 8:15 PM

Thanks Allyson, that's real shiny.

SIMONF

Sunday, January 25, 2004 8:20 PM

Very shiny indeed, bless him. Me hearts Joss.

EMOPIRATE05

Sunday, January 25, 2004 8:28 PM

It's kind of nice...well...really nice actually to know that this website has been such a great motivator even for the creators of the show. It was also ubershiny to hear the Joss is a homestarrunner.com fan as well. ("opossums...")

"Ninjas are totally sweet. What with the guitar solos and the flipping out and totally chopping people's heads off." ~Jade Puget

"Ah the pitter patter of little feet in big combat boots...SHUT UP!!" ~Capt. Mal

SPACEMONKEY

Sunday, January 25, 2004 9:04 PM

"part where the crew finds out about River's REAL.."

Joss, man..you can't leave us hanging!!! We've been so loyal, PLEASE give us SOMETHING!!!!! =-)

If the Movie doesn't work out, will you post the Movie script up somewhere for us to read?

How about Novels???

-L.H.

CAPNRAHN

Sunday, January 25, 2004 9:12 PM

Wow, I didn't expect THAT response when I started that thread.

I am stunned!

I wonder if Joss has taken a look a the "Firefly-Adventures in GunRunning" role playing thread.

Remember, there is only ONE absolute - There ARE NO absolutes!!!"

MANIACNUMBERONE

Sunday, January 25, 2004 9:14 PM

Shiny! Are you Joss?
Do you know Joss, the man, the myth, the legend?
It's too bad that other thread didn't let you in to post. Not very typical of this site.

JAHZARA

Sunday, January 25, 2004 9:23 PM

SO COOL! Thanks so much for posting that!

I go to dream about the movie...

IRISANNE

Sunday, January 25, 2004 9:53 PM

Wait! What just happened? Was that for real? Did Joss Whedon just pop in here and...like...say thank you and share some of his favourite lines with us and leave us with a teaser about the movie?

Good grief. That just made my day. Now I need to lie down with a cold cloth on my head.

Which is sort of the same thing as, "I'll be in my bunk." But not really.

I feel all....SHINY! And grateful. Wow--thanks so much for this!

ZENCAT

Sunday, January 25, 2004 9:58 PM

For the record, that really was Joss.

DUEY

Sunday, January 25, 2004 10:07 PM

I'm a brand new member of this community, having only recently become aware of the series (and immediately hooked)thanks to purchasing the DVD series due to the urging of friends.

It says so much that the show's creator is fighting for it like this, and I am elated to know that it may continue. Thank you for sharing this.

"Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you. Not as the world gives, give I unto you. Do not let your hearts be troubled, and do not be afraid. --John 14:27

MYCROFT2

Sunday, January 25, 2004 10:12 PM

Hi Allyson, I'm glad you posted that through.

And Hello Joss.

I'm really glad the Browncoats can give a little back :)
If ever need a pick-me-up, it's the least we can do.
We're all behind ya.

Keep Flyin' :)

SHERECE

Sunday, January 25, 2004 10:32 PM

Joss

Keep up the good fight. This project is too good to just fade away. Great writing, great concept, great crew, great cast, great music, great fans.

I hope the problems you're facing can be overcome. And if you need fans to step in with some kind of campaign. You know they will. All you need to do is ask. We'd take it as a kindness if you did.

All the power of the 'verse to you!
Sherece

FORTUNATUS

Sunday, January 25, 2004 11:00 PM

Now that is way cool.

My top Fireflygasm is Early's "Well, here I am." That hit me like a rock upside the head the first time I saw it. Any series that contains an existentialist masterpiece like Objects in Space is worth fighting for. Keep up the good work, Joss; we're all rooting for you.

_______________
"Yep. That's a cow fetus."

ZAPHODB

Sunday, January 25, 2004 11:42 PM

Cool.

Industrial Looniee & Madness - http://www3.telus.net/vchrusch

MAHDI

Sunday, January 25, 2004 11:53 PM

Seems to me everybody is focusing more on the factr that he tried to post here (which is real cool) than the message himself.

The whole

"Checking in to say: Rough @%&$#ing week. Trying to work the movie deal, juggling so many balls and dropping them all, basically ending the week going, "I'm done. I'm tapped. Last man down, I don't even think I can do this.""

tirad didn't exactly sound promising.

It's good to know he hasn't given up and is still working hard on it, but does this mean that the movie is pretty much dead?

MAHDI

Sunday, January 25, 2004 11:54 PM

Double post.

NOOCYTE

Monday, January 26, 2004 12:00 AM

Mahdi (say, you wouldn't be that thar Kwisatz Haderach, wouldya?), I'd had the same vexing, distressing thought.

However, I would imagine that the process of deaing with dueling studios, lawyers, producers and the like, even when it is going well, is a taxing, twisty affair, apt to sap the mojo from the strongest of us. I can only hope that this is what he was referring to, and not some untoward logjam which actualy threatens our cinematic apotheosis.

Here's hoping!

Keep flyin'!!

Department of Redundancy Department

CAPNRAHN

Monday, January 26, 2004 12:01 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by AllysonGurl for Joss:
Dear fan type postguys --

Then I hap on this thread, hear all those kick moments and all y'all cooing over them, and I remember why I'm fighting so hard. So when you here dorky sounding things like "The fans' support kept us going", know that on occasion it is not only literally but very specifically true. As in, today. Thanks already.

...

-- The part where the crew finds out about River's REAL... oh wait. That's the movie. Never mind.

Or mind in a while.

Thanks again.

-j.

Mhadi
You forgot to post the next bit... for me it is the MOST important part!

It makes me SO happy to have gone over to the RPGsite and found the thread about Firefly and saw the 'Fireflygasm" term. Which was coined (I believe) by 'SteveD:The Exalted of Tangency' on that site.

I loved the term so much I thought it would be cool to start a thread.

I was hoping the prez of Mutant Enemy (who, I was told lurks here oft times)would see the Fireflygasm thread and he would pass on how much the fans paid attention to the show.

Everybody else here on FFFn jumped right in and make the gamble pay off.

Why did I do it ... I can sympathize about ...

...well as Joss put it - juggling - but juggling on a storm wracked ship!

When you try to convince a person or group of the validity of your idea, it can be a nightmare!

Especially if that person/group is not really interested in the genre of your concept, just where it could 'take them'.

Hard and cold, but still vaild ... I am glad we were able to buck Joss up.

Not just to get Firefly back, but because I can understand, even though I am not in his field of work, the 'problem' is still the same in any venue.

You have to spend SO much energy just to convince the $$$ holders that it CAN be done and will be profitable. When you just want to get your story out.

It is EXUASTING!!!

My heart is right there with Joss!

It helps you when folks understand. I think we have done just that.

"If you can't walk out ... crawl out ... if you can't crawl, find somone to carry you out."

True words. Sometimes you need help, sometimes help comes to you. But most of the time you have to ask for help.

Mr. Whedon: I am glad we all could help in this manner!

Fly Free!!!

"Remember, there is only ONE absolute - There ARE NO absolutes!!!"

MAHDI

Monday, January 26, 2004 12:04 AM

"(say, you wouldn't be that thar Kwisatz Haderach, wouldya?)"

There may be a slight connection between that and my name....
www.dune2k.com

DORAN

Monday, January 26, 2004 12:32 AM

It's nice to hear that even Joss can be inspired by exerpts of his own show.

Don't give up on Firefly. If you only knew how many new fans Firefly has amassed in the last month you'd be truly amazed.

My fantasy is that someone with the means will notice all the enthusiam of the new fans and want Firefly on Scifi or some other channel for either a mini series or a weekly TV show.

DORAN

Monday, January 26, 2004 12:59 AM

It's nice to hear that even Joss can be inspired by exerpts of his own show.

Don't give up on Firefly. If you only knew how many new fans Firefly has amassed in the last month you'd be truly amazed.

My fantasy is that someone with the means will notice all the enthusiam of the new fans and want Firefly on Scifi or some other channel for either a mini series or a weekly TV show.

SERGEANTX

Monday, January 26, 2004 1:31 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Doran:
It's nice to hear that even Joss can be inspired by exerpts of his own show.

Don't give up on Firefly. If you only knew how many new fans Firefly has amassed in the last month you'd be truly amazed.

My fantasy is that someone with the means will notice all the enthusiam of the new fans and want Firefly on Scifi or some other channel for either a mini series or a weekly TV show.

No kidding Doran, I keep wondering if Joss really knows how much the ranks of Firefly fandom have swelled in the last month. I wonder how much more it would take before a few of those short sited networks that turned the show down last winter would give the idea a second consideration. I think most of us would like that as much if not more than a movie. Oh well, I'm sure ME is keeping close tabs on such things.

SergeantX

"..and here's to all the dreamers, may our open hearts find rest." -- Nanci Griffith

CAPNRAHN

Monday, January 26, 2004 1:38 AM

I wonder if he was inspired by the quotes or the fact we took the time to share the quotes with each other ... sorta like a good group of friends or family.

LOL, the Brotherhood of the Firefly! {CapnRahn ducks quickly, in case of lobbed fruit or veggies}

"Remember, there is only ONE absolute - There ARE NO absolutes!!!"

SHINY

Monday, January 26, 2004 2:10 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by CapnRahn:
LOL, the Brotherhood of the Firefly!

I think you mean "The Browncoat Brotherhood"

RIVER
Purple elephants are flying.
MAL
Good. Thanks for the update.

CAPNRAHN

Monday, January 26, 2004 2:24 AM

ROFL ... OK that works waaay to well too!

You must be Punnish!

"Remember, there is only ONE absolute - There ARE NO absolutes!!!"

STABBIM

Monday, January 26, 2004 2:56 AM

Well -- first of all, this board certainly is a great place to be when you're trying to catch up on all the things you missed because you showed up a little late to the party... like me.

I bought the DVDs and I wasn't quite sure what to expect. Don't get me wrong, I love "Buffy" and "Angel", but... sci-fi western?

In a nut, I hadn't expected that I'd love Firefly so much. Thinking I'd just watch the pilot, I went back watching "Serenity" all the way through again, this time with the commentary. And after that, I just couldn't stop. I was hooked.

That was a week ago today. I fell in love with that fascinating 'verse and its characters and now I really have to know what'll happen next. :-)

Can't wait to see the movie (I'll keep my fingers crossed), and I can't tell you how thrilled I am that they're actually planning to release a Firefly score soon.

Looking forward to hanging out with you guys,

Keep flying!

stabbim
from germany

"River, honey? He's putting the hair away now."
"Doesn't matter. It'll still be there... waiting."

LEEH

Monday, January 26, 2004 3:25 AM

It is scary to think that Joss is feeling like a wrung-out towel, one that he might be tempted to throw in. I know enough people in his business to know how exhausting and head-banging-against-brick-wall-frustrating it can be. Of course, we are the helpless audience, waiting on Joss's talent (apparently bottomless) and Universal's wisdom (as yet undetermined).

We should all remember, when we're feeling sad that the series got cancelled, or hungry for more, that Joss et al. must be feeling all this a hundredfold, as they poured heart and soul into making the series happen in the first place. I told cast and crew at LA Comic Con that the only way I could think to thank them was to buy the DVD set for everyone on whom I could force it (see my threat, "Another convert--my God, FOX should read this"). Let's just keep saying to Joss, Tim, and everyone who worked so hard, and had their hearts broken:

T H A N K Y O U!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Well, my days of taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle. . . ."

SUCCATASH

Monday, January 26, 2004 3:30 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by AllysonGurl:
joss - ...I can't seem to log in, 'cause I work the computer like I'm wearing Strongbad's gloves and I really wanted to post something there.

I think Joss needs a Bat Phone with a direct line to Haken so he can post here.

JASONZZZ

Monday, January 26, 2004 3:45 AM

Well, if anyone should get a Bat Phone to get Haken's attention away from his normal meatspace burdens, I suppose it would be jw.

Quote:
Originally posted by Succatash:
Quote:
Originally posted by AllysonGurl:
joss - ...I can't seem to log in, 'cause I work the computer like I'm wearing Strongbad's gloves and I really wanted to post something there.
I think Joss needs a Bat Phone with a direct line to Haken so he can post here.

Like Fireflyfans.net?
Haken needs a new development system. Donate.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=5&t=3283

BOOMERGOODHEART

Monday, January 26, 2004 4:10 AM

This was just the coolest thing to come across tonight. Thank you, Joss, for even LURKING here!

Joss

BoomerGoodheart
"I love my Captain."

RKLENSETH

Monday, January 26, 2004 4:17 AM

Well, I'm sure the 500+ reviews on Amazon.com has helped. Is there anything else on Amazon.com that has 500+ reviews and still rates a full five stars? I'm hard pressed to find one.

Joss, keep fighting. We are a hundred perent behind you. Give us a movie so we can break box office history and get our show back on the air. And thank you for bringing this great story to us. It beats any reality show as the characters in Firefly are mor real than any people that a network puts on a reality show.

Oh, and play Cantr II at www.cantr.net.

JAGGEDSEVEN

Monday, January 26, 2004 5:36 AM

Joss isn't gonna give up on Firefly. He can't. We won't either, gorramit. Firefly is just too precious and necessary.

SAINT JAYNE

Monday, January 26, 2004 5:39 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by spacemonkey:
"The part where the crew finds out about River's REAL... oh wait. That's the movie. Never mind."

Quote:
If the Movie doesn't work out, will you post the Movie script up somewhere for us to read?

Knock on wood, gorammit, knock on ruttin' wood!

I'm not superstitious, but on the off chance there is some good luck to be had, we deserve a bit of it.

SHSSAY

Monday, January 26, 2004 5:39 AM

I will probably be repeating what has been said a thousand times over, but I love Joss Whedon's Firefly and would be euphoric if it was allowed to continue. It's shiny to see the creator of our beloved show posting here, even if the news he had about his struggles worried me.

But since he does read these forums and they are a comfort to him I wanted to post my praise for the show as well. I had pretty much abandoned television until my mom introduced me to Firefly. After years of Friends, Malcom in the Middle, Surivivor, and countless other jejune series like them I had decided I would rather get a root canal than sit and watch tv in the evening. This show had me tuning in religiously to catch the latest adventures of Serenity and her crew. The characters were compelling and dynamic and the actors that played them were wonderful. In the short time the series was on they had managed to create a world I felt was completely realistic and immersed. It has also been a long time that I have seen a show intertwine comedy and drama so well.

This show is one of my favorites and I was heartbroken when it was cancelled. I was also quite surprised because of the quality and popularity of the show. If there is any way to keep Serenity flying I will put my full support behind it. Thank you for a show that has brought me many hours of enjoyment. I hope to see Firefly on the big screen soon.

"Two by two, hands of blue." -River Tam

SUCCATASH

Monday, January 26, 2004 5:43 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jasonzzz:
Well, if anyone should get a Bat Phone to get Haken's attention away from his normal meatspace burdens, I suppose it would be jw.

It's not so much that Joss needs to get Haken's attention. Joss should just be able to pick up the Red Phone and say something and then his words are instantly posted on Fireflyfans.net.

DRBORIS

Monday, January 26, 2004 6:09 AM

I can see it now

"Somebody go for Chinese, all the phones are tied up with the talking with the lawyers. Hey, which one of you left the red phone off the -"

------------------------
"If I ever kill you, you'll be awake, you'll be facing me, and you'll be armed." - Mal

ROCKETJOCK

Monday, January 26, 2004 6:42 AM

To: The Boss Browncoat {AKA Joss}:

The next time you despair of the battle, remember that it has taken you only eleven broadcast epiosdes and a DVD release to get to the point of negotiations for a possible movie.

It took Gene Roddenbery three times longer to reach a similar benchmark, and he had three seasons worth of re-runs in every major market in North America to back his posse up.

The reason he succeeded is that he had a quality item, of a kind no one else could quite duplicate. You've got the same. And you're reaping the same kind of response, in a tightly compressed timeframe. No wonder you're feeling stressed.

And -- One of the things that got Roddenberry through it all was was the spirit of the fans. So...

To: The Browncoat Brigade (AKA all the rest of us.)

Take it as a compliment when I say the spirit I find prevading Firefly fandom reminds me (to the point of deja vu) of Star Trek fandom in the early seventies. And if Joss feels a bit more fit for fighting the good fight because he knows we're out there -- well, that's part of the magic too.

Fireflygasms:

Mal: "Oh, I'm a bad man."

Mal: "Let me make this abundantly clear. I do the job. And then I get paid."

Zoe: "I need this man to tear all my clothes off."
Wash: "Work, work, work..."

River: "Also, I can kill you with my brain."

Folksinger: "--Jayne, the man they call Jayne!"
Simon: "No, this is what it feels like to go mad."

Major Fireflygasm: The entire gag reel, including the easter egg.

RocketJock

HARDWARE

Monday, January 26, 2004 7:31 AM

To Joss:

Buck up Browncoat! We're doing the impossible, that makes us mighty!

Here, give me your pack. SaintJayne! Carry his rifle.

You know the old saying. When you can't run, you crawl, well, you know the rest. We've got a lot of strong backs and eager volunteers to carry you.

Keep flying. We'll keep watching.

The more I get to know people the more I like my dogs.

HEADED4HOLLYWOOD

Monday, January 26, 2004 8:14 AM

Wow that is so awesome that Joss took the time out of his busy schedule to post here! He just rocks my socks. I lurve him lol. And of *course* he had to tease us with movie tidbits lol

*Daf

Kaylee: Wash, tell me I'm pretty.
Wash: Were I unmarried I'd take you in a manly fashion.
Kaylee: 'Cause I'm pretty?
Wash: 'Cause you're pretty.

SEVENPERCENT

Monday, January 26, 2004 8:49 AM

Since I worked all day I hadnt got to add my two cents, so here they are-

Keep fighting Joss- The show is worth it, and obviously the fans are loyal- Thanks for the message- It's messages like that one that keep us fighting along side you-

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He looked bigger when I couldn't see him.

IAMTHESHIP

Monday, January 26, 2004 9:26 AM

Nice one, Mr Whedon. Don't let the buggers grind you down.

--
Well, here I am.

MSBIGPILEOFDUST

Monday, January 26, 2004 10:04 AM

*Beaming the love to Joss from England*

Keep flying! There's a redcoat turned browncoat over here who will be dragging everyone she knows to the movie!

Check out my Buffy, Angel & Firefly Custom Figure Website: http://www.btinternet.com/~msbigpileofdust

CALHOUN

Monday, January 26, 2004 10:26 AM

How do we know that it really is Joss?

WERZBOWSKI

Monday, January 26, 2004 1:31 PM

Just in case that was Joss and he does lurk here on occasion....

Don't forget, Joss, every Browncoat in the 'verse is with you. They can't take the sky from us! As long as the fans keep the faith, Firefly will never die.

"We will rise again!"

CIARA

Monday, January 26, 2004 1:39 PM

"(say, you wouldn't be that thar Kwisatz Haderach, wouldya?)"

actually, I am the Kwisatz Haderace....except, I'm not male....and I'm pretty sure Mom wasn't a Bene Gesserit *sigh*

FAVE FIREFLY MOMENTS:

The whole scene in War Stories where Mal keeps Wash concious by arguing. And when Wash mentions how crazy he is after.

What ensues after Simon drugs Jayne --"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?!" "I told him to sit down"

the whole "Kaylee's dead" bit

aaaand

When we see how Kaylee got on the boat--it NEVER occourred to me that it was HER shagging in the engine room---when she turns around, my jaw hit the floor

last but not least--
the day I read the post Joss wrote at the top of this thread :)

Just a humble supplicant in service to all things Joss

FLOATER68

Monday, January 26, 2004 3:00 PM

Someone please tell me again how we know this is an authentic Joss post? Who's ALLYSONGURL? People have impersonated him in the past and it really ticked him off. Please, set me straight. Thanks.

F68

SOONERDAX

Monday, January 26, 2004 3:09 PM

Shiny!
Thanks for posting this.

Go Joss Go!
We won't give up either.

MATWANG

Monday, January 26, 2004 3:52 PM

Thanks for posting Joss!

I'm not duplicating posts here to say you're so great an all, it's a given!

HAKEN, THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR GREAT WEBSITE!!!!

It's really been the bouy that's kept us together, along with our hope for more Firefly in the future.

Keep flyin' yall,

MaTwang

ALLYSONGURL

Monday, January 26, 2004 4:21 PM

Joss posts at Buffistas. He was having a difficult time posting here, so he posted at Buffistas and asked that it get posted here.

Who am I? I'm a wee fan. I was awake and about when he was posting, and so I carried it here, as it was intended for you.

-A

FLOATER68

Monday, January 26, 2004 4:35 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AllysonGurl:
Joss posts at Buffistas. He was having a difficult time posting here, so he posted at Buffistas and asked that it get posted here.
-A

Thanks for the reply. Nobody ever mentioned that it came from Buffistas. I'm skeptical by nature and I always need to see things for myself. Thanks for being a wee fan.

F68

CAPTAINCDC

Monday, January 26, 2004 4:45 PM

Keep flying JW, your loyal Browncoats are behind you 100%. We believe in the story, in the cast and crew, and most of all we believe in you. Keep fighting the good fight.

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

JOSH294

Monday, January 26, 2004 5:37 PM

*sobs* *squeals*
I love that man more than should legally be allowed.

And you can interpret that statement every way you want to.

CONNORFLYNN

Monday, January 26, 2004 6:03 PM

I very rarely become addicted to TV shows. I am Married to a Jossaholic, who spouts many Buffyisms making me laugh on a regular basis. I was never completely hooked on Buffy or Angel (though I have watched every episode..it's a requirement in my home). When Kate (my wife) asked for Firefly "The Complete First Season" for Christmas this year..I bought it for her. Christmas day, she asked me to watch the DVD's with her in marathon fashion. It blew me away. We almost left the last episode..unwatched, because the knowledge that there wouldn't ever be another episode was a little bit heart rending. At any rate..we finished the series. You have found a JW convert.

One of my favorite lines in Firefly is:

"Keep walking Preacher Man" -River Tam

The hilarity of the simple statements got me hook, line and Sinker.

We look forward to the Movie and believe if anyone can get it done, Joss can.

Finally:

Mal- "Ya all gonna be here when I wake up?"

Yes..Yes..we will be

We have now watched the complete first season 3 times. Thank you Joss, the set has taken its rightfull place, next to my Godfather Collection.

DIGIFICWRITER

Monday, January 26, 2004 6:14 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AllysonGurl:
joss - Jan 25, 2004 11:56:02 am PST #4374 of 4375 Mark
"What's the rumpus?"

Hey guys. Sorry to go wildly off-topic (and bring up Firefly), but I need a favor. I tried to post something on Fireflyfans.net discussion about "Fireflygasms" (no, it's not as shippery as it sounds.) Anyhoo, I can't seem to log in, 'cause I work the computer like I'm wearing Strongbad's gloves and I really wanted to post something there. So I'm gonna write it out here and hope 'n' pray (to the meaningless void) that one of y'all will be kind enough to kick it over to that thread. Okay then:

______________________

Dear fan type postguys --

Checking in to say: Rough @%&$#ing week. Trying to work the movie deal, juggling so many balls and dropping them all, basically ending the week going, "I'm done. I'm tapped. Last man down, I don't even think I can do this." Then I hap on this thread, hear all those kick moments and all y'all cooing over them, and I remember why I'm fighting so hard. So when you here dorky sounding things like "The fans' support kept us going", know that on occasion it is not only literally but very specifically true. As in, today. Thanks already.

And, more importantly:

-- Inara on the bed in Mal's room saying "I just hit my head is all". Deep funny.

-- River on the railing. Batgirl!

-- "Little man Loooved fire."

-- "They were little geisha dolls with big heads that wobbled!" "People LOVE those!" Kai made me rewind that four times.

-- "Dear Diary. Today I was pompous and my sister was crazy."

-- "Have you ever been with a warrior woman?"

-- "She ain't moving." When you think Kaylee's talking about Zoe and realize she means Serenity. And every time the lights first flicker in that show I've forgotten what ep I'm in and I get very worried.

-- The part where the crew finds out about River's REAL... oh wait. That's the movie. Never mind.

Or mind in a while.

Thanks again.

-j.

It's cool to know that the Joss-man

posts here. A lot of people are taking his words as a possible warning sign that he's going to give up on getting Firefly back on the air (or in theaters as a movie), but I don't see them that way. His comments about feeling like he's 'down for the count' strike me as him venting/voicing his frustration and being honest about the fact that he IS frustrated. I can somewhat imagine what Joss is going through because I faced a similar problem in keeping a BtVS fanfic project that I started afloat (I was getting worried that we were never going to finish it and was ready to abandon it until one of my co-writers changed my mind), although I doubt very much that my problem was/is anything compared to his. It's also good to know that Fireflygasms (hee) can have such a buoying effect on him (it shows just how much the show means to him).

Go Joss!!!!!! Don't give up!!! If there's ANYONE who can get Firefly ressurrected, it's you (after all, you're the man who had the creative and persuasive clout to get your BtVS concept turned into a TV series).

MAL'SGAL

Monday, January 26, 2004 7:23 PM

Wow, that is so cool! And so frustrating too! Thank you Joss, for taking the time to share that with us.

STATIC

Monday, January 26, 2004 7:41 PM

Is there an email address for JW?

We've been playing with 'moviemaker' over here in Afghanistan. . .capturing video of our Apaches flying. . .some cool rocket shots. . .

I'm currently working on some video of non-combative flying over this poor, used-up little country (my heart goes out to these people, it really does) and make a vid to "The Ballad of Serenity" as sort of a "Hang in there" gift to Joss. I would love to make sure he gets it.

Any suggestions?

"Wash. . .we got some local color happening. A grand entrance would not go amiss."

SHINY

Monday, January 26, 2004 9:19 PM

That's a GREAT idea, Static! I'm sure Joss would appreciate it. Maybe get all 60-some-odd of the soldiers you converted to sign a group photo or something to go along with it. The best way to get it to him is probably to send it c/o Mutant Enemy:

Joss Whedon
c/o Mutant Enemy
20th Century Fox
P.O. Box 900
Beverly Hills, CA 90213

RIVER
Purple elephants are flying.
MAL
Good. Thanks for the update.

BLUESUNBLACKSKY

Monday, January 26, 2004 10:13 PM

You know I just want to say something about all this.

Firefly was art, as all good theater and movies and TV are. Art is
worth fighting for, especially your art is worth fighting for. I really
loved Firefly there is something particularly heart wrenching when you
discover something that touches you, but it's time came and went without
you being aware of it, thats how Firefly was to me. Like falling in
love with a movie star from the fifties, or a author who has passed
away from the century before, a artist that flowered unappreciated and
misunderstood.

Brilliant but gone, a bittersweet thing that was not looked for, found
and then lost. Before you could stand up and be counted; It was gone.

Joss if you read this: I'm standing up, I want to be counted, it
mattered that you worked so hard to get it on the air, and to get it out
there, I appreciate the fact you wanted to share this story with me. I
appreciate that everyone worked so hard at getting your vision out there
and to make it their own.

Now on to the hard part:

I will say this once and clearly because it's antithetical to what I
really want: believe in your vision, if someone wants you to change
Firefly accept it if it makes sense to you, but if not? If your vision is
compromised? Let it go, find another story to tell, life is too short to
compromise art. Your vision has value, more then getting another
episode, or movie.

You will find another story to tell.

Fight for what is right and true, enjoy that you made a impact on
people, and that people truly cared, not kind of cared, there is no half
heartiness in this, people cared for you, the cast, the crew, and the
stories.

Thank you.

Dear Diary. Today I was pompous and my sister was crazy.

NESS

Tuesday, January 27, 2004 12:29 AM

That's so nice of Joss. And he actually knows that this site exists. How cool is that?

And he mentioned Strong Bad! I love Joss. Have I mentioned that yet?

"Sir, I think you have a problem with your brain being missing." - Zoe

LORDJ

Tuesday, January 27, 2004 2:49 AM

The DVDs left me with dread.

Why dread? Anger, yes, happiness, yes, also I had to pee. But the dread stayed with me for a week.

How could it be, I asked myself, that anyone could kill this beautiful thing, could look at it and not only fail to appreciate it, but actually bumrush it off the box? I had this wierd moment where I felt myself spending the next 90 or so years (I am going to die at 125, y'all!) in that world. It was heinous! And, it made me cry, for real.

I just didn't want to believe that such a thing could die. Of course, one knows it can. And not in the read it on the internet way, in the feel it in the pit of my stomach way.

But that's why I appreciate what you all at ME are still doing, and of course what the folks who run this site, organized the ad, etc. are doing as well. The world is beautiful only if we fight to keep beautiful things in it. Have no idea what it must be like as a creator of said things to have to bang head against wall, but as consumer! and being in the world I really appreciate y'all's fight.

And as a plug to the fellow historians out there (if there are any!), "Jaynestown" is an excellent first-day-of-class "what is history" bit!

Ach! And I'm sorry, but "That's why I never kiss them on the mouth" is my all-time fave; not just the line but the reactions are perfect!

LEEH

Tuesday, January 27, 2004 3:03 AM

Thank you, BlueSunBlackSky, for saying something important and true, and sad. Better no more FF than a FF that has been compromised out of its artistic center. I am pretty confident that Joss feels the same way, but we should let him know that we would understand, if it came to that (and it may well). . .

"Well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle. . . ."

IRISANNE

Tuesday, January 27, 2004 3:18 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Hardware:
To Joss:

Buck up Browncoat! We're doing the impossible, that makes us mighty!

Here, give me your pack. SaintJayne! Carry his rifle.

You know the old saying. When you can't run, you crawl, well, you know the rest. We've got a lot of strong backs and eager volunteers to carry you.

Keep flying. We'll keep watching.

I love this message. It says it all. And it goes without saying that if there's anything at all we can do to help...well. Here we are! Just ask.

FIREFLYPASSENGER

Tuesday, January 27, 2004 6:46 PM

Quote:
Thank you, BlueSunBlackSky, for saying something important and true, and sad. Better no more FF than a FF that has been compromised out of its artistic center. I am pretty confident that Joss feels the same way, but we should let him know that we would understand, if it came to that (and it may well). . .

In Joss I trust. I have faith that he will not compromise and he will tell his story.

I will not lose faith in seeing Serenity fly again until Joss tells us he is done.

I trust in Joss and I know that he makes the right decisions. I have watched Buffy and Angel from the beginning without fail. At times he went places I was not sure of but in the end was always thankful for.

Joss thank you for coming here and sharing with us your struggles and your hopes.

I really can't pick a line as my favorite because there are so many. But what comes to mind is:

Simon: Why did you come back for us?

Mal: You're part of my crew.

Also when people do things I don't understand I just think, "Some people juggle geese."

Keep flyin'

Rosie

SPRATMAN

Tuesday, January 27, 2004 10:46 PM

Ok, first off, I'm not a rabid fan. I've seen most of the Buffy episodes don't own any of the DVDs. Rarely watch Angel Don't collect figures, write fan fic or any of that stuff. Not that it's a bad thing, it's just not stuff I do.

That said, I LOVE FIREFLY!!!!!... ok so I missed most of the episodes on broadcast TV cause of the lousy scheduling and the fact I didn't know it was on til I ran across it by accident but I did run out and get the DVDs as soon as they were available. The show is one of the very few shows that for me gets better with repeated viewing.

This is just a note for Mr. Josh that the lurkers, the quite ones, the no so fanatic fans are behind you too. Keep up the good fight.

Jon

SIRTHOPAS

Tuesday, January 27, 2004 11:09 PM

Dear Mr. Whedon,
This is the first time I have ever entered a forum like this so please forgive by naivete regarding proper decorum. I simply wanted to thank you and your staff for the wonderful production that "is" Firefly and to encourage you in your project for a movie of same or even better a further series. On this side of the pond we are "starved of technicolor" to quote the heavenly messenger when it comes to intelligent, witty, sad and thought provoking science fiction. Based on word of mouth advice from a friend I bought the region 1 DVD's from Amazon (thank heavens for region free players) and the entire family were both deligthed with the series and baffled as to why it should have been cancelled. It has brought a smile to many a face, and many a re-run of the DVD's. At the behest of family members I have been forced to follow news on progress of all things Firefly (good lord, I hope this does not mean I am a "fan") and was moved to respond to your "thread"? as it looked as though you needed cheering up. Please keep serenity flying and certainly do not let the corporations grind you down.
Yours sincerely
Sir Thopas.

SIR THOPAS

ANKHAGOGO

Thursday, January 29, 2004 12:59 AM

Definitely count me in on the "ohpleaseohpleaseohplease gimme more".
I'm a sucker for Westerns, a bigger sucker for quirky,humourous Westerns, and Firefly is chockful o quirk & humour, stand up and say a big ol' yeehaw for that.
I miss it!

Although at this point I am violently irritated because I am y'all-in' it up like there's no tomorrow. Oh, laugh all ya want, but I live in Oklahoma! I've been studiously NOT saying "y'all" for yeeeeeears! I was on the receiving end of a savage taunting by my friend the other day for saying "y'all"!
I suspect I'll live.

As for Fireflygasms -- whoever said there are too many is right. But my sig is one of them.

And some of my favourites aren't really funny taken out of context, it's the delivery that makes the line. Example: Jaynestown. Jayne says his whole name for some reason, and Mal says, "I know your name, jackass!" I just laughed my head off -- ok, I'm laughing right now.

Did I already say that I really really really really want more?

Here's a plan -- I've already converted one more person on the strength of the pilot, so maybe we should stand on street corners and hand out pamphlets to raise awareness.
"Got Firefly?"

I really really really want more.

Ankhagogo

"She was naked! And all...articulate![/i}

JAYNEROCKS

Thursday, January 29, 2004 2:12 AM

Awesome! I for one have watched the DVD over and over. I need to stop because I get pissed everytime I think about the show being gone. Looks like you have some details to work out before the movie gets done. Good Luck! Don't let the bastards keep you down.

JHONAS

Friday, January 30, 2004 7:16 AM

I missed Firefly when it was on Fox, and so had my friends and family. My family bought the DVD, and I decided to watch it one evening out of boredom.

Let's just say I was floored. I was shocked. Where had this show been? Only 14 episodes? It's been canceled?! What?!

I watched the entire series, and after the last episode, I was crying. I have NEVER cried at a TV show being canceled. TV sucks, and even shows I've liked, like The Next Generation have gone off the air, and it was fine by me. The show was good, but it was just TV. It was just a story, and there will always be other good stories that will come along.

The difference is that Firefly wasn't completely told. Hell, they'll probably still make another TNG movie (despite billing Nemesis as the last one).

Another difference is that the riveting story and the chemistry between the characters that ST:TNG took seasons to build was in Firefly by the end of the first episode--better, even!

After I realized the show was genius, I understood my purpose in the grand scheme of Firefly. I had to let (read as: force) all of my friends to watch my copy, and take turns borrowing it.

I have shown Firefly to upwards of a dozen people, and none of them have disliked it. Those people in turn have shown more people. It snowballs. I haven't shown it to my girlfriend yet, but she'll probably like it too (even though she says she isn't interested, she doesn't realize yet that she really is interested). Sometime this week I will be writing my letter to Universal (as mentioned in another thread I don't feel like linking to, I'm sure everyone can find it).

I'm doing everything I can to keep the show alive, as well. I am showing Firefly to everyone I know. I have yet to encounter a person who knows what the hell it is. No one heard about Firefly. When I describe the premise of the show, people are always skeptical. They have to be dragged to the TV. After watching the first episode, however, you'd have to drag them away.

I'll be honest with everyone. I like science fiction, but I like it serious, with a direct, planned approach to describing the futuristic universe. For example, Star Trek. Oh, and I hate westerns. Can't stand em.

My favorite show is a Sci-fi Western that has a roundabout way of detailing its universe. My favorite show is Firefly.

MERLINDREA

Saturday, January 31, 2004 1:57 AM

Dear Joss,

I don't want to repeat what all the others afore me have said, I wholeheartedly agree with them anyway. I just wanted to point out that Firefly does not only have a US or Canadian fanbase but is loved in Germany just as well. I taped it when it run and sent it to my friends in Germany and the first thing they wanted when I asked them what to bring for Christmas was - guess what - Firefly DVDs!

Please please please, you have to keep flying - for the whole world! Firefly is special. It is real. Please don't give up.

Merl
I'm going to a Firefly-weekend-session tomorrow, as we likely will be snowed in anyway - what better can you do?

SHADESIREN

Saturday, January 31, 2004 2:47 AM

is it bad that reading that from Joss almost made me cry?

Huge heaps of love and support to Joss for being him, and giving us all so much... he can never really know just what he means to all of us.

Besides - it might scare him a little, if he ever did :P

MALSDOXY

Saturday, January 31, 2004 2:55 AM

We're here, Joss, behind you all the way !!!
Let us know what you need....

MAL:"Haven't you killed me enough for one day ?"

ERICADINT

Saturday, January 31, 2004 3:56 AM

OK this is the first time ive posted on this weblog
Joss if your readint this, i just wached your series and i thought it was the greatest think since (Space Above and Beyond)SAAB also a FOX murder victim. i just wanted to know if youve talked to sci fi channel about bringing your show back on. what you have made is verry rare in the world of entertainment. the second i realized ( wow hes not using sound in space ) i was hooked. your use of foreign language for swaring is brilliant. please if there is anything that i can do to help breath life back into your show just ask. they way you develop your charactors is also brilliant.
the story of giligans islad comes to mind ( your story is nothing like that) but it was killed due to idiacy and yet it made more money than any other program aired by that company. maybe you can remind sci fi about that. FOX and their incompetence are to blame for your show going off the air. please let us know how we can help find a new home for your show. because whoever takes it up will bee verry happy about the results.

LIPOSUCTION

Saturday, January 31, 2004 6:05 PM

Okay I just posted on some other thread I happened across in my state of wild abandon, searching for something, ANYTHING to cling to with regards to Firefly.

I bought the DVD set on Thursday, and I just finished Objects in Space, and I want more!

I've emailed Fox, Paramount, etc, and I have letters going into the post on Monday.

How is it even possible that shows like DS9 and "My 90th Attempt at a reality series about marriage" make it over and over; and yet Firefly is gone already!

This show has something for everyone. The only gifts I'm giving people for birthdays and such, are going to be boxes of this show.

*sigh*

Executives are dumb.

SERENA

Sunday, February 1, 2004 1:40 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by rklenseth:
Well, I'm sure the 500+ reviews on Amazon.com has helped. Is there anything else on Amazon.com that has 500+ reviews and still rates a full five stars? I'm hard pressed to find one.

What a great idea! Everyone should go to Amazon and write a review for the DVD set. Pass the word along. Possibly the execs at Universal will notice, and hopefully we'll get more recruits.

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OKKAY

Sunday, February 1, 2004 4:07 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by liposuction:
Okay I just posted on some other thread I happened across in my state of wild abandon, searching for something, ANYTHING to cling to with regards to Firefly.

I bought the DVD set on Thursday, and I just finished Objects in Space, and I want more!

I've emailed Fox, Paramount, etc, and I have letters going into the post on Monday.

How is it even possible that shows like DS9 and "My 90th Attempt at a reality series about marriage" make it over and over; and yet Firefly is gone already!

This show has something for everyone. The only gifts I'm giving people for birthdays and such, are going to be boxes of this show.

*sigh*

Executives are dumb.

Hey, don't you dare group DS9 with all the reality crap on TV now. Besides the 3 Joss Whedon series', DS9 was the best written drama that I'd ever seen, and they were even able to pull off the drama/comedy mix fairly well most of the time.

FIREFLYWILDCARD1

Sunday, February 1, 2004 4:53 AM

Wow. Joss and others at Mutant Enemy actually read these things? That's so awesome that they take time out of their schedules to do that!

I saw Firefly when it first aired but wasn't able to catch most of it on TV cuz of Fox's screwy scheduling. I'm so glad that the DVDs came out and that they included the three unaired eps! I do hope that the movie comes through.

Joss -

Keep at it! We are all behind you! I love this series and hope to see the movie. I hope that you can get through all the frustration and stress that is involved with the process of writing and promoting a movie. Also I hope you know that the fans will understand if the movie doesn't happen (although we all hope that the movie does happen). Thanks for creating this lovely series! And thanks for fighting so hard to get it aired!

Susan

SERENITYSSON

Sunday, February 1, 2004 7:13 AM

Joss,
If perchance you ever happen upon this far down on the thread, we your loyal fans will do what we can to help. Besides simply writing letters, we will be happy to play gopher so you can farm out some of the MILLION things you have to get done. Don't know what I can do about your drycleaning from Jacksonville but hey, it the thought that counts right . Even with my 70 hour a week job, I'm more than willing, just like everyone else here, to help when you need us. With Firefly you have given us something that we cherish, and it's time for us to give back.

The Hero of Canton, the man they call Meeeeeeee!

LUNATIKAT

Sunday, February 1, 2004 9:11 PM

yeah, when I first tuned in, I completely expected not to like it, and for it to be lousy. Even though it was the Train Job, not the pilot Serenity, I was hooked almost from the minute that wagon comes splashing through the curving river with that incredible asian/western/world music, but when Mal says "they wouldn't mind a corpse of you", I was done in. By the time Jayne says "time for some thrilling heroics" descending from a space ship onto a mag-lev train in the middle of dusty desert horseback country, it seemed like this was the only possible future.

lunatikat - not just for breakfast any more

LUNATIKAT

Sunday, February 1, 2004 9:29 PM

I myself have been Dishwasher Emeritus at Mists of Avalon U. and dog wrangler to the stars. If Mr. Whedon needs dogs or dishes washed, I AM your man (wo-man, actually)and though not in LA, am in CA so could be in LA in a few hours.

lunatikat - you've been soaking in it

BROWNCOAT1

Monday, February 2, 2004 2:30 PM

I said it in the Fireflygasms thread, and I will say it here:

It is really cool that Joss reads our site, and I think it is great that he was able to take heart in our discussion and enthusiasm for the show.

Keep fighting Joss. Every Browncoat here is behind you all the way!

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

SUCCATASH

Saturday, February 14, 2004 3:43 AM

Joss said,

"Trying to work the movie deal, juggling so many balls and dropping them all, basically ending the week going, "I'm done. I'm tapped. Last man down, I don't even think I can do this."

I wonder if one of the balls that got dropped that week was Angel? Perhaps, in the midst of trying to make the movie, he is battling with WB and the stress is overwhelming.

DTT

Saturday, February 14, 2004 7:04 AM

Why oh why did I have to watch Finding Nemo today? My poor, sleep-deprived brain keeps seeing Dory saying to Joss, "Just keep flying, just keep flying. Flying, flying..."

"You didn't have to wound that man."
"Yeah, I know. It was just funny."

DEANNAMAY

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 11:03 AM

I have been a science fiction fan for about 30 years now, so I have had a lot of opportunities to see really bad stuff. The really good stuff is unfortunately exquisitely rare. Firefly most definitely is the good stuff.

Using Chinese was a wonderful touch, and educational. Ideas of loyalty, friendship and what is family is also evident. That is what draws me to stories, not exactly what is happening, but how the people involved react to what is going on around them. I find that so-called science fiction has a lot more real people in it than fiction does. People are allowed to be flawed, to have friendships be important, and when they rise above all that holds them back they become real to the audience. Having such a great cast certainly helped, each person was just so perfect in their role. In Firefly each character is a real person, not some cardboard cutout to make executives happy we have the vixen, hero, villain all checked off.

I hope,no matter what comes, that you will at least write books regarding Firefly, because that too keeps the dream alive. I miss the characters, and am happy to have the fan fiction here. I miss seeing them evolve, especially River and Simon, who were adjusting to the most changes. I love their brother-sister devotion. While we saw what Simon was willing to do for River, I think towards the end of the season we were finally getting a together River who could give back to Simon in equal measure.

Be it a movie, a series (yippee!!) or books, I will be there with bells on.

SHINY

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 11:45 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by dtt:
Why oh why did I have to watch Finding Nemo today? My poor, sleep-deprived brain keeps seeing Dory saying to Joss, "Just keep flying, just keep flying. Flying, flying..."

Did you happen to catch my contribution to the Blue Sun Room a while back:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/sunroomitem.asp?i=630

RIVER
Purple elephants are flying.
MAL
Good. Thanks for the update.

ANDURIL

Thursday, March 18, 2004 12:13 AM

Just to let you know, lots of Firefly fans here in Australia. And getting more and more of our friends hooked on it every time we watch the DVD's.

Has somebody taken the Fox exec who canned the show and explained that they're too stupid to be permitted to live, that they are not earning their oxygen on a daily basis, and had them shot?

Makes you wonder how they make their decisions.

Is it mindless crap? Well it'll do great then!
Is it sci-fi? Does it have great plot, dialogue and characters? Oh well we can't have any of that.

*sigh*

Mat,
Sydney