Battlestar Galactica 3.0

POSTED BY: misbehaven
UPDATED: Friday, October 13, 2006 13:48
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MISBEHAVEN

Sunday, August 6, 2006 8:56 PM

Just want to hear what everyone thinks about what direction BSG will go in season three. I saw a brief preview on the Sci-Fi channel not too long ago, and it's looking good.

Morbid and creepifying I got no problem with, so long as you do it quiet like.

SICKDUDE

Monday, August 7, 2006 4:47 PM

I've been very pleased so far, and I anticipate more of the same in season three. However, I have big reservations about "Caprica", the spin-off series. Much like what happened to Stargate when they spun off Atlantis, I hope this doesn't cause a 'brain drain' amongst the writers. They shouldn't divide the writers up when they do two shows.

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MISBEHAVEN

Monday, August 7, 2006 5:08 PM

Oh no. I hadn't even heard there was going to be another series. You're right. I hope they don't mess up a good thing.

Morbid and creepifying I got no problem with, so long as you do it quiet like.

CYBERSNARK

Monday, August 7, 2006 8:14 PM

I'm kinda ambivalent given the ending of last season. What we're about to get should be season 4, if they hadn't done the cheap "one year later" thing (all too often an excuse to change characters instead of actually developing characters).

Just makes it feel like they didn't think their cast could sustain a season's worth of character development without the Cylons around to cause trouble.

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KANEMAN

Tuesday, August 8, 2006 2:20 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Cybersnark:
I'm kinda ambivalent given the ending of last season. What we're about to get should be season 4, if they hadn't done the cheap "one year later" thing (all too often an excuse to change characters instead of actually developing characters).

Just makes it feel like they didn't think their cast could sustain a season's worth of character development without the Cylons around to cause trouble.

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I've seen you post this one year later thing before. Go back and re watch the seasons. You have got to be kidding. Character development? Who is not developed? Starbuck? Apollo? Chief? Who? Without the cylons there is no story to tell! They would not be looking for earth. Must people say that even though the cylons are always in the background of the story they don't see them enough. Why are you a BSG hater?

CYBERSNARK

Tuesday, August 8, 2006 3:35 PM

Oh, I'm not arguing at the character development; it's what I love most about the show.

My problem is that, in the last ep, they went from the arrival at New Caprica to it suddenly being one year later. They showed us the end result of that year (Tyrol and Cally are now married and retired, Cally is with child, Roslyn is running a school, Starbuck is effectively retired, Galactica and Pegasus are slowly but effectively being decommissioned, etc. . .) without showing any of the intervening year.

We're told what's been happening in general terms (preparedness is plumetting, the Cylons haven't been seen, Baltar is drinking and screwing his administration away), but we're not actually shown anything.

We saw the beginnings of the Cally/Tyrol ship (with Tyrol not-quite-over Boomer and Cally confessing her unrequited love), but we never saw Cally's unrequited love being. . . requited. We also never saw the long journey ahead of the Chief as he forces himself to get over Boomer. We never saw how Helo and Boomer progressed after the baby was "lost." We never saw the bulk of Apollo's command on Pegasus, or how he, Tighe, and his father reached the point where they were --prepared to effectively give up (as evidenced by Adama cashiering Tighe). We never saw Zarik's machinations for Baltar, we never saw the progression of Baltar's visions, or the Cylon Heroes arc (with Six and Boomer on Caprica), or. . .

That should've been the third season: showing the rise and decadence of New Caprica, as Adama tries desperately to hold the military together in the face of Baltar's incompetence and arrogance. The Chief/Cally romance, Starbuck's frustration at not really having any ranks to climb up (imagine our brash pilots, sitting on their thumbs with no real enemies to fight). Roslyn's simmering anger both at Baltar's betrayal and at the fact that they likely won't reach Earth. Adama's grudging alliance with the religious establishment, if only to try to get their inertia going again. Meanwhile, Six and Boomer try to redesign Cylon society from the inside (and how do they deal with not having an enemy to fight, or define themselves in relation to?).

The characters were changed from what they had been previously, but we're not shown the actual process that resulted in those changes.

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EMBERS

Tuesday, August 8, 2006 3:37 PM

I'm really excited about it...
for one thing I know that Jane Espenson (writer of Shindig) is going to write at least one episode...

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KANEMAN

Tuesday, August 8, 2006 3:41 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Cybersnark:
Oh, I'm not arguing at the character development; it's what I love most about the show.

My problem is that, in the last ep, they went from the arrival at New Caprica to it suddenly being one year later. They showed us the end result of that year (Tyrol and Cally are now married and retired, Cally is with child, Roslyn is running a school, Starbuck is effectively retired, Galactica and Pegasus are slowly but effectively being decommissioned, etc. . .) without showing any of the intervening year.

We're told what's been happening in general terms (preparedness is plumetting, the Cylons haven't been seen, Baltar is drinking and screwing his administration away), but we're not actually shown anything.

We saw the beginnings of the Cally/Tyrol ship (with Tyrol not-quite-over Boomer and Cally confessing her unrequited love), but we never saw Cally's unrequited love being. . . requited. We also never saw the long journey ahead of the Chief as he forces himself to get over Boomer. We never saw how Helo and Boomer progressed after the baby was "lost." We never saw the bulk of Apollo's command on Pegasus, or how he, Tighe, and his father reached the point where they were --prepared to effectively give up (as evidenced by Adama cashiering Tighe). We never saw Zarik's machinations for Baltar, we never saw the progression of Baltar's visions, or the Cylon Heroes arc (with Six and Boomer on Caprica), or. . .

That should've been the third season: showing the rise and decadence of New Caprica, as Adama tries desperately to hold the military together in the face of Baltar's incompetence and arrogance. The Chief/Cally romance, Starbuck's frustration at not really having any ranks to climb up (imagine our brash pilots, sitting on their thumbs with no real enemies to fight). Roslyn's simmering anger both at Baltar's betrayal and at the fact that they likely won't reach Earth. Adama's grudging alliance with the religious establishment, if only to try to get their inertia going again. Meanwhile, Six and Boomer try to redesign Cylon society from the inside (and how do they deal with not having an enemy to fight, or define themselves in relation to?).

The characters were changed from what they had been previously, but we're not shown the actual process that resulted in those changes.

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LIGHTMEDARK

Tuesday, August 8, 2006 8:19 PM

I'm looking forward to Season Three, greatly. It's one of my 3 favorite shows (Firefly, Lost, BSG). Also, I'm a fan of the 1 year skip-ahead, though I can certainly see why it's bothered some.

WISHUPONAWASH

Thursday, August 10, 2006 4:16 PM

From what I hear, you'll get to see what happens in the intervening year over the course over the first half of the season.

I've still got to wait to scrape enough money together to buy the S2 DVD so that I get to the point where I can wait for the S3 DVD to come out. Ahh the pains of living in the UK with no Satellite TV

Here's how it might of been.... www.stillflying.net/

CHOO1701

Thursday, August 10, 2006 4:31 PM

BTW: Cybershack, who said two seasons = two years in space?

Before the year gap the colonials had only been in space 8 months. (Admiral Cane asked what had they been for the past 6 months in "Pegasus". So were not even in season 2 yet.

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DUKKATI

Saturday, August 12, 2006 4:13 PM

I am looking forward to it.
There is so little on TV to watch that's worth my time.

1. Firefly marathons

2. SG1

3. SG Atlantis

4. BSG the new one.

5. Star Trek TNG

6. Star Trek

7. any Star Trek series

8. Space Above And Beyond (I wish this show would be produced again)
9. EUREKA (kinda hit a miss for me but ....)

I've been through the system.
It dont work.

LWAVES

Sunday, September 3, 2006 7:34 PM

Thanks Choo1701 for pointing out that a TV year doesn't equal a plot year (although I don't think Cybersnark stated they had been on the run two years before the leap forward - I may be wrong though).

I think it's great that shows like BSG and Lost aren't running to the one season equals one year.
It's convenient and useful coz actors grow older at the same rate as their characters.
I always liked that Buffy started school some way into the year and the first season was roughly half the episodes of the others.
But that doesn't mean that it has to be that way and it's great to see shows doing something different.

As for the original topic:
I don't have a problem with moving one year on. It's a brave move but I can't imagine they did it without a good reason.
It should be good as the Cylons have almost won - and I'll use a quote from Dr Who to illustrate:

"This isn't an invasion, it's victory."

Can't wait!!!

CHINDI

Sunday, September 3, 2006 10:27 PM

Ron D. Moore said BSG has a five year arc and he knows where the final arc leads.. so I think this is VERY interesting.. it is all sketched out with a conclusion and a finality... and many mini arcs along the way.

I am very much looking forward to BSG 3.0. With Deadwood over (do we really think they will make the promised films?? I don't) there is not a lot of QUALITY TV... for me, right now, BSG is as close as it gets. The acting is good. The stories real/and interesting. I like the show.

Caprica, the potential spin off, is about life on the colonies in the years before the initial Cylon War (as I understand it). I have not heard that this show has actually been optioned. They are still in the "talking" phase.. so who knows.

I will be watching BSG in October.. what else is there???

ETA: I imagine there will be a lot of looking back in the early episodes. Moore has said they explain what happened in that intervening year and why the fall out between Starbuck and Apollo. I think it will all be made clear.
Chindi

VETERAN

Sunday, September 3, 2006 11:46 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Chindi:
...I am very much looking forward to BSG 3.0. With Deadwood over (do we really think they will make the promised films?? I don't) there is not a lot of QUALITY TV... for me, right now, BSG is as close as it gets. ...Chindi

You are so right about Deadwood I can't believe they killed it. What happend, did some FOX executives move to HBO just to screw with things?

Frankly, BSG has lost me I'll still check in but I don't like the direction it's taken and I think alot of the characters (especially the military professionals) are too irrational.

I like Eureka and hope it takes off. It's a good show, of course it doesn't fulfill my need for swashbuckling adventure.

PAGANPAUL

Tuesday, September 5, 2006 9:51 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Veteran:
What happend, did some FOX executives move to HBO just to screw with things?

LOL! I wouldn't be surprised if that's exactly what did happen!

I can just picture it - a meeting of all the big wigs sitting around bragging about things like "I killed off three popular shows this year," and another one responding with "Oh yeah? Well I killed of a number one in its time slot show, so there!"

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WEREALLJUSTFLOATING

Thursday, September 7, 2006 2:21 PM

Any one care to guess as to what happened between Lee and Kara to make them so distant?

My guess,and its just a wild one, is that they may have slept together but that she went ahead and married Anders anyway and that Lee hasn't forgiven her yet - although SPOILER:

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Lee and Dualla are married now so I don't know how that really fits into my theory, but you never know!

Of course it could be something much worse, but
I have heard or read (can't remember) an interview with Katee Sackhoff that suggests its definately something Kara did, and that Anders has the wool pulled over his eyes in some way, so thats what I'm basing my theory on. It would explain Dee's attitude in the finale when she takes the phone call.

How about everyone else? What do you all think?

Oh and when the hell did Kara and Tigh become all buddy buddy?! I found that even harder to wrap my head around - although I can't wait to find out the reason for it. I expect there to be a few flashbacks throughout the season to fill in the blanks - non-linear narative doesnt bother me if done well, ala Out of Gas.

And just because they've jumped ahead doesn't mean thats that part of the story over with - I think the audience is supposed to be frustrated -to keep us guessing!! I'd pick this type of unpredictable story-telling over obvious plots anyday!

We're still flying.

That's not much.

It's enough.

CITIZEN

Thursday, September 7, 2006 4:27 PM

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Originally posted by Cybersnark:
I'm kinda ambivalent given the ending of last season. What we're about to get should be season 4, if they hadn't done the cheap "one year later" thing (all too often an excuse to change characters instead of actually developing characters).

Would you have been happy to watch a show about putting up tents and building houses? BSG season 2, AKA Changing Tents.

Can you imagine? Episode one: They land and put up some tents. Episode Two: More people land, and they put up some tents.

A few episodes, half a season at a push but a full season of BSG the Soap, that just wouldn't work.

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CYBERSNARK

Thursday, September 7, 2006 8:10 PM

I woulda' been happy to watch a show about the growing relationship between Tyrol and Callie, or about the reconciliation and grudging respect between Tighe and Starbuck, or the falling-out between Apollo and Starbuck, or Rosslyn's disillusionment with politics as Baltar leads the colony down the road to ruin.

I would've enjoyed watching New Caprica build infrastructure (note the cranes and permanent structures visible in the background during the establishing shot), while Baltar's mismanagement and misunderstanding of priorities keeps everyone living in tents. I would've enjoyed seeing military readiness slowly decline due to Baltar's feud with Adama, as Adama and Lee desperately try to keep Galactica and Pegasus fully crewed and operational.

I would've liked to see dream-Six slowly planting the seeds for New Caprica's fall, while Six and dream-Baltar reshape Cylon society from within. I would've liked to see Caprica-Sharon's rise as Galactica-Sharon spiralled deeper into despair, prompting Helo's rebellion against Adama. . .

There's no shortage of stories that could've been told during the year. I can only hope those stories (in some form) exist in Moore's mind, and that he didn't just change up the characters for the sake of being "fresh" and "cool." I want to trust Moore, but I've been burned by too many bad storytellers/behind-the-scenes meddling by idiot Executives to trust something like this.

It just evokes uncomfortable memories of Galactica 1980. I sincerely hope the fears are groundless, but they're there, all the same.

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CITIZEN

Friday, September 8, 2006 1:23 AM

I'm not saying your wrong, that jumping a year in a split second wasn't a mistake, or a possible mistake, but I am saying that BSG the soap wouldn't have been all that great for an entire season, I see it getting old, boring and perhaps even repetitive pretty quickly.

They'd of needed to manufacture a new internal antagonist, sure you've got Baltar, but he's more of a slow burn itch, and since he's backed by our previous internal antagonists, the terrorists, they've got what they want. The Cylons weren't that big a part of most episodes, but what you did have is the threat of the Cylons, which you wouldn't have on New Caprica, and that's removing a huge part of the dynamic that made the show.

Soaps work on internal pressure alone, good shows also have external pressure driving their character development. Moreover what you'd have is two separate shows, the Cylon show and the Human show, and nere the two shall meet, part of the whole BSG dynamic was showing how one affected the other.

I just seriously doubt there would be enough for an entire season without it getting silly and soapy (although, I suppose, some characters getting silly and soapy isn't a bad idea, but only if a hot tub is involved...) I just personally don't need to see Starbuck gossip while getting her roots done .

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CYBERSNARK

Friday, September 8, 2006 1:39 AM

Here's a plotline that just popped into my head, as an example:

-After "losing" the baby, Galactica-Sharon gradually withdraws into herself.

-Slowly, due to rabble-rousers on Pegasus, public backlash builds against the Cylon prisoner. People start to see her as a relic, and an uncomfortable reminder of everything they've lost. They see no reason to keep her alive. Adama ignores the issue, because even now, some part of him feels that Sharon's still part of his crew. Tigh, predictably, is all in favour of putting a bullet through the toaster's head and bein' done with it. Helo and the Chief are protective, but their hands are tied.

-The issue polarizes the fleet, calling into question exactly what a Cylon is, and how much free will Sharon might truly have.

-Sharon becomes a political issue. To win support, Baltar throws himself behind the campaign to destroy her (Six suggests it --she's served her purpose in the Grand Design. Now, by her death, she could unite the fracturing colony behind him).

-Soon, the makings of a rebellion are forming, most of them made up of Sharon's friends and acquaintances (which puts Starbuck in a difficult position; she knows Sharon as well as anyone, but she hates the toasters pathologically, and she takes Sharon's betrayal personally).

-As matters boil to a head, Helo takes matters into his own hands (if the Chief is still on Galactica, he'll pitch in too). Helo springs Boomer, and manages to get her to a Raptor and take off. Their plan is to flee, maybe back to Caprica, maybe to another colonial world --either way, they're better off taking their chances. Of course, as much as Adama might understand the impulse, he can't allow them to leave --it would risk exposing New Caprica. . .

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CITIZEN

Friday, September 8, 2006 1:53 AM

That's six episodes of story arc (and not main story, secondary and tertiary arcs) there at a real push. Not a full season. In fact you could probably tell that story line in three or less.

I'm not denying that there aren't stories to be told, I'm saying there isn't enough for it to not turn into a boring soap.

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VETERAN

Friday, September 8, 2006 4:53 AM

I never thought as Out of Gas as nonlinear. I guess as a series of flashbacks, but it was still in a series where the characaters were being introduced. In away it was an extension of the "original" pilot (Train Job). Anyway, it's not an fair comparison, BSG is just skipping ahead. I get the impression that even the writers don't know where it's going.

WEREALLJUSTFLOATING

Friday, September 8, 2006 10:53 AM

OK, I hope I don't offend anyone here because I certainly don't feel my opinion is the only valid one by any means, and I was just as frustrated at the end of season two, but here goes:

DON'T FORGET THE TITLE OF THE BLOODY SHOW!!!

It's not called 'New Caprica', its 'BSG' - so why would they have a whole season that follows them off-ship in the first place!

It's the same argument I always use when people complain about Lost - "when are they going to be rescued?" they say to me. But the show is called 'Lost' for Christsakes!! If they're rescued, they're not lost anymore - show is essentially over.

If Firefly had continued for a few seasons, it seeems unlikely to me that they would all settle on a planet, Haven for example, and still call the show Firefly, because the name wouldn't make sense anymore.

OK rant over...

Oh and I'm not denying that there would be a wealth of stories to develope during a season set on New Caprica, it's just not what the show is about to me, it's about life on the Galactica first and foremost.

We're still flying.

That's not much.

It's enough.

VETERAN

Friday, September 8, 2006 11:52 PM

Good rant.

I always thought of BSG as a sort of Exodus in Space. New Caprica really spoils that (especially after only two years on the run).

MRSKBORG

Sunday, September 10, 2006 3:45 PM

Had to download the preview but its looked really really good. The only thing thats concerning me, personally, is the wait for it to be aired in the UK. Could be a while. Damn. Right at this moment in time there's only 2 decent shows on - Lost and Regenesis. But since the both previous seasons of BG have rocked I am not worried in the least.

"This movie may be a beautiful butterfly, but I loved that damn caterpillar." Joss Whedon.

WEREALLJUSTFLOATING

Monday, September 11, 2006 2:01 PM

Yeah I emailed SKy One last week to ask when the third season would be on, but haven't heard back yet. I heard a rumor it would be October, but I'm not betting on it. Although they do show both Deadwood and Eureka quite soon after those shows are aired in the states, so maybe there's a chance. I didn't watch the first 2 seasons of BSG on Sky( only bits and pieces) so could someone enlighten me - how was season 2 aired? All in one or split in 2 like in the US?

I'm both excited and sad that the new season is nearly upon us - I've only discovered the show this summer, and after months of buying the DVDs, waiting impatiently for them to arrive, being told they'd been lost in the post:( and then downloading the newer eps, I'm all caught up and I CAN'T WAIT for the next season. But now I'l have to wait for a new episode each week. Not that I'm really complaining, just one more show to look forward to every week, and at least there won't be the usual stop and start nonsense that we get with other US shows.

Oh and on a worrying note - I was listening to a podcast (suject2discussion) the other day that often discusses BSG and has interviewed many of the actors on a regular basis, and according to one of their contributors, BSG Season 4 is on the wire if the ratings don't pick up this coming season:(

I wish I could say I was shocked but after Firefly and Angel, nothing like this surprises me anymore. Here's hoping the show gets more mainstream recognition. Why oh why aren't the actors doing the rounds on all the talk shows - at least the NBC ones anyway??? Maybe they should air re-runs on NBC - to give people a taste of what they're missing for not watching SciFi.

We're still flying.

That's not much.

It's enough.

STORYMARK

Monday, September 11, 2006 3:13 PM

I'm gonna stay out of the BSG 3.0 talk, since I've been watching the show on DVD, and havn't seen 2.5 yet. But I will comment on some of the side topics.

The Caprica spin-off: I believe is a "go" project now, but as I understand it, won't have many, if any, of the same writers from BSG. The "creator" of the show is not on the BSG staff, but was an outsider who pitched the show, and Ron Moore liked his ideas. They say it'll focus more on the corporate world as cylons are first being designed and built. Kind-of like Dynasty in space.

And Deadwood: It was not cancelled by HBO (of Fox for that matter). David Milch, the creator of the show, pulled the plug so that he could focus on his new "surfer-noir" show for HBO. Not that makes it any better, but at least we know who to blame.

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WEREALLJUSTFLOATING

Monday, September 11, 2006 3:28 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Storymark:

The Caprica spin-off: I believe is a "go" project now, but as I understand it, won't have many, if any, of the same writers from BSG. The "creator" of the show is not on the BSG staff, but was an outsider who pitched the show, and Ron Moore liked his ideas. They say it'll focus more on the corporate world as cylons are first being designed and built. Kind-of like Dynasty in space.

Yeah apparantly he already had an initial idea for a show that he brought to Universal, and they were the ones who suggested he turn it into a BSG prequel type thingy, so my guess is it will be quite different to BSG, hopefully for the better, so as not invite unfair comparisons. But then again, it it is even half as good as BSG, it'll be worth watching:)

At least Deadwood will have the chance to wrap up the story to some extent, although I would have thought there was plenty of seasons left in that show. Oh well, only the good shows die young I suppose.

We're still flying.

That's not much.

It's enough.

WEREALLJUSTFLOATING

Tuesday, September 12, 2006 5:08 PM

Just found this over on the scifi.com boards, it's sounds promising:

http://ifmagazine.com/review.asp?article=1391

The best season yet!!! I hope they're right

On a side note I'm gonna order the region 1 season 2.5. I'm really looking forward to seeing the extended cut of Pegasus and the deleted scenes - I hope they have more than what was available on the website, it seemed they were holding back, I don't remember any from the finale for example.

We're still flying.

That's not much.

It's enough.

MRSKBORG

Sunday, September 17, 2006 5:40 PM

Ok so I watched Season 2 on Sky One - they still have the special 1 1/2 ep to show, but they showed all the rest in order and weekly. I'm hopefuly that we'll get the new series in January but I doubt it will be earlier.

"This movie may be a beautiful butterfly, but I loved that damn caterpillar." Joss Whedon.

NESS

Saturday, September 23, 2006 10:45 PM

I'm relatively new to the BSG fandom so after a marathon of episodes, I'm totally in the mindset of needing more. More new eps, more!

But I'm not sure if I love the fact that Ron Moore One-Year-Latered the characters. And I'm not complaining about losing a year; he made Apollo fat!

Sorry, had to get that out.

The "One Year Later" will probably just mean more flashbacks. But good flashbacks hopefully. Like how it was used in Scattered.

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SISTERBETTYX

Thursday, September 28, 2006 6:08 PM

With all the speculation aside I can hardly wait for season 3.0 of BSG to start up. They made us wait a long time for this.

GRIZWALD

Saturday, September 30, 2006 10:52 PM

BSG 3.0 Countdown

http://scarecrowe.org/

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LITTLEALBATROSS

Wednesday, October 4, 2006 5:07 PM

For those of you in the US who can't wait for Friday the first act of the premiere is online now.

Go to the Scifi Pulse popup thingy -> Battlestar Galactica -> in the menu choose watch a full episode -> at the bottom of the next menu choose first look.

Or click on this and then choose 'watch a full episode and more' and then 'first look' http://video.scifi.com/player.html?dlid=30611

I am so jealous right now.

WEREALLJUSTFLOATING

Thursday, October 5, 2006 1:35 AM

You can download the first act from this website

http://www.fleetopscommand.com/pa/index.php

Only catch is you have to register first - but it's worth it. Those first 12 minutes are an AMAZING opener to the new season - but be warned, if you're not going to see the episode this friday, you might want to hold off on this first act!!

Its so good it just leaves you wanting more!!

PS even if you're not in the US, there are other 'internet-based ways' of getting the new episodes;) I know I for one couldn't wait until 2007, which is when Sky One will start airing it.

We're still flying.

That's not much.

It's enough.

GRIZWALD

Saturday, October 7, 2006 1:32 PM

So? Nobody wants to talk about the season premiere?

I guess I'm still digesting.

It was certainly up to standards, though I don't think anything would be "worth the wait" of a whole summer of Galacticalessness.

One comment:

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I think Kara's baby was the biggest setup in the world. And I don't think Kara really fell for it. She is one confused little cookie right now, and I see hints in her eyes that she's starting to lose it, but I don't think she was completely taken in by the whole magical kid thing.

Maybe she'll try to take the little girl with her when she escapes.

And waaaaaah! for Duck!

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FELLOWTRAVELER

Saturday, October 7, 2006 3:19 PM

I would love to chat about it, but I have no idea what the frak is going on. Before last week, I had never watched this show, but had read recently that it is the SciFi de jour and wanted to give it a shot. So, I watched the 4 episodes (The Story So Far, Pegasus, Resurrection Ship 1 & 2) running on "On Demand" and have been hooked.

The four episodes I have seen has, unfortunately, left me illprepared in understanding what was going on during the season premier. All I get is the Cylons are monotheists (and appear a little pushy in that regard), the humans are polytheists, and the president desperately needs a .45 slug in the brainpan (squish).

I could not help in noticing, however, the similarities between what is going on in the BSG world and what is going on in the real world. So, nobody get pissed, but are Cylons representative of certain allied nations? You know, holier than thou, an occupying force, and filled with moral certitude...

Anywho, I really enjoyed it and will be buying the DVDs to try to catch up. Seems like a good cast (Olmos has chops), has good production values, and is easy on the cheese. Although, I really need a primer as it will take me quite a while to get through the DVDs once purchased and I have no intention of not watching the new episodes as they are released.

As to your spoiler, it looked like it worked to me, but I don't know the characters...

GRIZWALD

Saturday, October 7, 2006 3:33 PM

It might be worth your while to join Netflix (if you're in the US) just to get through the two seasons on the cheap. The DVDs are pricey!

BUT if you find a really good deal on the DVDs please let me know because I would buy 'em if they weren't so expensive.

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FELLOWTRAVELER

Saturday, October 7, 2006 4:48 PM

Wow, your not kidding. I just checked at Amazon and they are pretty pricey. I think Netfix might, indeed, be worth my while...

DARKJESTER

Saturday, October 7, 2006 4:49 PM

Thanks for using the spoiler tags, Grizwald! I don't mind spoilers, but I HATE having them thrust in my face by inconsiderate folk, including those at the networks who make the "Next Week On...." previews. In fact (not to drop names ) but I said as much to Richard Hatch when I met him at DragonCon this year. He agreed, and said that the Battlestar promo folks would NEVER do that to the fans. Like

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the year-in-a-second skip and Cylon occupation of New Caprica

on the season 2 finale - I had NO idea it was coming. Not a hint in any preview. And what you have under the spoiler tags - I've watched every Battlestar season 3 promo I saw closely, and there was no hint of that plotline that I noticed. I see that as respect for the fans.

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GRIZWALD

Saturday, October 7, 2006 4:54 PM

Anybody who wants to join Netflix and needs a referral, write me... I don't get anything for it and I don't think you get anything too exciting, maybe two free weeks or something like that. But if it helps, good.

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CHINDI

Saturday, October 7, 2006 5:47 PM

I watched... it was great. I cannot wait to see where they take this... I like the dark tone, the questions as to what is a freedom fighter and what is an insurgent.. there were things that shocked me... and things that make me so curious about where they will take this show...

The creators said they have a five year arc, and I trust they will take it where they want over the next three years, and it will be a great ride..

SPoilers below

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I cannot decide if Starbuck is a victim of stockholm syndrome or lulling her captor in....I have no opinion about the baby yet...

I think the returning Boomer is loyal, but will her other models be able to sense her, as the other Six models knew her disagreements? I think Baltar is amazing... conflicted and tortured and hated. He is fabulous to watch

Chindi (wish the whole season was out so I could watch it from beginning to end!!!)

N0SKILLZ

Saturday, October 7, 2006 5:53 PM

I do not like any of you! lol j/p

The new season hasn't started here in britian yet. I think I might break down and buy it on Itunes as they put it up, thats how bad i wanna see it.

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GINOBIFFARONI

Saturday, October 7, 2006 6:02 PM

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Originally posted by N0Skillz:
I do not like any of you! lol j/p

The new season hasn't started here in britian yet. I think I might break down and buy it on Itunes as they put it up, thats how bad i wanna see it.

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try a torrent site

GRIZWALD

Saturday, October 7, 2006 6:04 PM

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I think the returning Boomer is loyal...

And my spoiling reply to your spoiler comment:

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What happens to that loyalty when she finds out that the Admiral knew all along that her child is alive? That he was responsible for taking her from her and has kept this secret from her despite being a witness to her pain? I think that will be the crisis.

I did love how her name is now Sharon Agathon.

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N0SKILLZ

Saturday, October 7, 2006 7:27 PM

torrents are always so slow for me. I like my newsgroups but noones has posted them yet.

and I didn't think it started until monday? the new season that is?

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CHINDI

Sunday, October 8, 2006 3:11 AM

Yes Grizwald that totally croseed my mind too.. I think that will be a black balck show...

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and I suspect Helo will be pretty angry too! shudder

Chindi

CHINDI

Sunday, October 8, 2006 3:12 AM

whoops.. double post... sorry!

Chindi

RIVERGIRL

Sunday, October 8, 2006 12:17 PM

this new season of BSG really started pretty
6 o clock newish--very intnese-not sure where they are going--willbe interesting to see

Also, I can kill you with my brain.

DANNIISUPERNOVA

Monday, October 9, 2006 1:58 AM

Actually they are planning on having lots of flashbacks and whatnot to fill in the blanks. Like through character interaction and so forth.

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KANEMAN

Monday, October 9, 2006 2:17 AM

NOskillz, Torrents are to slow? Maybe for an older torrent. But when BSG torrents go up you have hundreds of seeders and peers and the download is QUICK. I got it in less than an hour @about 189kb ave. down. off of isohunt using bittornado for a client I got season two while sleeping last week maybe 9-10 hrs.

WEREALLJUSTFLOATING

Thursday, October 12, 2006 1:20 AM

So having discovered this show this past summer, I spent the past few months becoming totally hooked on BSG through downloads and DVDs.

My tip to anyone considering buying the DVDS - download or rent the miniseries first. If that doesn't hook you, nothing will. I bought the mini on DVD, got to the end, immediatley sent it back and ordered the 1st season box set. NB: get region 1 as it's much better value, includes the mini, and has lots more extras than region 2.

But I think I was a little too excited for my own good because I wasn't quite as amazed as I expected to be. But I am really looking forward to the new season, as I think this show has so much going for it. That's not to say that I didn't enjoy the premiere, because I did. Some favourite moments :

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the scene between Roslin and Baltar when he asks to look hin in the eye and condone the suicide bombings, and she can't do it. I also loved the argument between Tigh, Anders and Tyrol. Of course we know, as Tigh does, that Adama WILL come back for them, but I really liked how Anders pointed out that he would have been left for dead on Caprica were it not for Starbuck - cos it's so true. I also loved the later scene between the two Adamas, when the Admiral says he must go back this time, that he couldn't live with himself if he didn't. I just love Adama when he gets all heroic and noble!!

Did anyone watch the premiere without seeing the webisodes first?

I'm curious because I found the Jammer and Duck stories were really fleshed out in the webisodes, and I can't imagine them resonating the same way if you only watched the show itself.

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REAVERMAN

Thursday, October 12, 2006 3:49 AM

What I want to know is whatever happened to Lee's depression? It showed up once at the end of 'Pegasus part 2' when he told Starbuck that he wished he would have died after he ejected from the Blackbird. After that, it was never really brought up. Is he still suicidal? Is that why Lee gained so much weight? Will they go into more detail in this season? This bugs me because it looks like they were setting him up for some major character developement, but they just dropped it.

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REAVERMAN

Thursday, October 12, 2006 4:00 AM

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I think Baltar is amazing... conflicted and tortured and hated. He is fabulous to watch

I couldn't agree more.

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When Baltar was forced to sign the execution order, It was, for me, a truly heart wrenching moment. You could see it in his eyes that he was a broken man, and I couldn't help but feel an enourmous amount of pity for him. Baltar's internal conflict makes him, in my opinion, the most interesting character in the new season so far. I can't wait to see how things turn out for the resident schitzophrenic/genius/traitor/president

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WEREALLJUSTFLOATING

Thursday, October 12, 2006 2:17 PM

I love Baltar, I think James Callis is one of the most talented actors on the show and the character is one of the most complex. I do miss the hilariously funny moments from earlier in the show, before he became President, as no-one else on the show even come close to being as funny as that man when he's trying have two conversations at once!

What are people's thought's on the Six in his head? I personally think she has little if any connection to the other Cylons. I think for me the most logical explanation is that she's actually a part of Baltar's own brain, his conscience or his own personal little devil/angel on his shoulder. I think he's actually a bit prescient, and that explains how she can warn him when something bad is about to happen.

The other explanation I could buy is that she really is an angel of God sent to guide him. Either way she seems to have no real realtionship to the physical Six that we see on the show. She even has very different personality IMO. Much more siniser and seductive, while the physical Six is more human and vulnerable. I would like to see a scene with the two Sixes and Baltar together, to see how that would play out...

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It's enough.

CYBERSNARK

Thursday, October 12, 2006 2:26 PM

I wanna see more of the polished imaginary Baltar that lives inside Six's head (proof to me that Dream-Six isn't a Cylon plot --at least not intentionally).

Man, imagine a conversation between Six and Baltar. You'd have four people in the room. . .

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SAB39

Friday, October 13, 2006 1:17 PM

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Originally posted by DarkJester:
Thanks for using the spoiler tags, Grizwald! I don't mind spoilers, but I HATE having them thrust in my face by inconsiderate folk, including those at the networks who make the "Next Week On...." previews. In fact (not to drop names ) but I said as much to Richard Hatch when I met him at DragonCon this year. He agreed, and said that the Battlestar promo folks would NEVER do that to the fans.

Like

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Baltar asking six "Are you saying I'm a Cylon?"

in the "this season on BSG" at the end of the premiere you mean? I'm not saying it's not something that we all haven't thought at some point - in fact I've done my fair share of ranting at the BSG folks for leaving such an obvious possibility unstated for so long. But they'd done a fair job of seeming to rule it out with recent events, so to thrust it back in our faces at this point is pretty spoilerish to me...

GRIZWALD

Friday, October 13, 2006 1:44 PM

I'm SURE it's supposed to annoy us... intrigue us... fascinate us. All the "Previously on Battlestar Galactica" scenes that we have NEVER seen are making me crazy!

BTW, we still don't have SciFi, so get this: I go in my neighbor's BASEMENT and hook into her cable and watch it (with her permission) - she won't let her kids see anything that violent so she doesn't want it played on their main family TV.

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Friday, October 13, 2006 1:48 PM

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Like
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Baltar asking six "Are you saying I'm a Cylon?"
in the "this season on BSG" at the end of the premiere you mean? I'm not saying it's not something that we all haven't thought at some point - in fact I've done my fair share of ranting at the BSG folks for leaving such an obvious possibility unstated for so long. But they'd done a fair job of seeming to rule it out with recent events, so to thrust it back in our faces at this point is pretty spoilerish to me...

LOL! If that were the case,

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I bet they never bothered to make more copies. He obviously isn't worth making more of. What an idiot.

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