Most offensive scene in an SF or fantasy film...

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CHRISISALL

Monday, August 14, 2006 11:05 PM

Crude, gross or sexually in-appropiate, take your pick. (I guess insulting your intelligence would count, too...*)

My most offended moment came during the rape/beating scene in A Clockwork Orange. Not to say it wasn't a good movie, I just found that scene exceptionally disturbing, I suppose.

And all of Forbidden Zone* was offensive; if you haven't seen it- don't.

Things that make you go "EEeewww" Chrisisall

THIEFJEHAT

Monday, August 14, 2006 11:11 PM

"The great Barrier" in Star Trek V is completely insulting both to my intelligence, and to the entire Trek franchise.

Do not fear me. Ours is a peaceful race, and we must live in harmony.

MISSTRESSAHARA

Monday, August 14, 2006 11:22 PM

What are you talking about, I love Forbidden Zone. Who didn't love Micheal Ironside in that? "I'm feeling rather energetic today."

For me there was ONE movie that to this day I hate even mentioning the name. I saw it with my brother not thinking it would be that bad, and I nearly passed out and threw up. Event Horizon. Had nightmares for a year. I kid you not.

Most offensive, to women, to art, and just too hardcore, Sincity. Another one I nearly got sick while watching.

If I'm a bitch, then life just got interesting

CHRISISALL

Monday, August 14, 2006 11:43 PM

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Originally posted by Misstressahara:
What are you talking about, I love Forbidden Zone. Who didn't love Micheal Ironside in that? "I'm feeling rather energetic today."

No, that was Spacehunter: Adventures In The Forbidden Zone you're talking about. Class-A cheese, very fun.
Forbidden Zone starred Herve Villachez and was a musical from the guy that wrote most of Rocky Horror- we couldn'r BELIEVE it was SO bad!!!

Event Horizon was creepy with no point.

Succinct Chrisisall

ECGORDON

Monday, August 14, 2006 11:57 PM

I would have to agree it's A Clockwork Orange too, even though overall I think it is a very well made film. But in Kubrick's defense, it is my opinion that scene was intended to be repulsive, to paint a picture of just how depraved Alex was.

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MISSTRESSAHARA

Tuesday, August 15, 2006 12:19 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by Misstressahara:
What are you talking about, I love Forbidden Zone. Who didn't love Micheal Ironside in that? "I'm feeling rather energetic today."

No, that was Spacehunter: Adventures In The Forbidden Zone you're talking about. Class-A cheese, very fun.
Forbidden Zone starred Herve Villachez and was a musical from the guy that wrote most of Rocky Horror- we couldn'r BELIEVE it was SO bad!!!

Event Horizon was creepy with no point.

Succinct Chrisisall

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Oooooh, my bad. I saw Forbidden Zone and didn't realize it was another movie. So it was a movie by Richard O Brian? Your not talking about the horrible (they never should have even bothered) sequel of Rocky are you?

And yes, Adventures is class A cheese and one of my favorites. I watched it all the time when they played it on TV. Sadly it's been a long time since then.

"Will you please be quite, I am trying to rescue you."

If I'm a bitch, then life just got interesting

DINALT

Tuesday, August 15, 2006 1:14 AM

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Originally posted by Misstressahara:

For me there was ONE movie that to this day I hate even mentioning the name. I saw it with my brother not thinking it would be that bad, and I nearly passed out and threw up. Event Horizon. Had nightmares for a year. I kid you not.

Got to agree with you there. I didn't have that bad a reaction to Event Horizon, but it's the only film (Sci-Fi or otherwise) that's really left me feeling disturbed.
Maybe it's the script, the great acting or whatever, but it definitely creeped me out for a while. Most offensive scene for me as well, although probably necessary for a script, is the short shot of the original crew - creepy ripping their eyes out.
To this day, it's the only film I've never rewatched - yep, it had that much impact on me anyway.

KANEMAN

Tuesday, August 15, 2006 5:58 AM

Could I add all of Ultraviolet. The whole movie was so offensive to me..I don't think I will ever get over it! I feal Ultraviolated having sat through that shit on a reel. God that pisses me off! To hell with all involved..There is no excuse for putting out that--that--urghhhhh!!!! I'm going back to the "Do pigs eat humans" thread

SHINY

Tuesday, August 15, 2006 6:05 AM

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Originally posted by kaneman:
Could I add all of Ultraviolet. The whole movie was so offensive to me..I don't think I will ever get over it! I feal Ultraviolated having sat through that shit on a reel. God that pisses me off! To hell with all involved..There is no excuse for putting out that--that--urghhhhh!!!!

I felt the same way about The Hulk. That is, in between the several bouts of dozing off.

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KANEMAN

Tuesday, August 15, 2006 6:09 AM

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Originally posted by Shiny:
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Originally posted by kaneman:
Could I add all of Ultraviolet. The whole movie was so offensive to me..I don't think I will ever get over it! I feal Ultraviolated having sat through that shit on a reel. God that pisses me off! To hell with all involved..There is no excuse for putting out that--that--urghhhhh!!!!

I felt the same way about The Hulk. That is, in between the several bouts of dozing off.

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I don't need a gorram back-spaceship driver!!!

LOL!!! Tell me about it I think I'm still sleeping over that one myself...HMM? Cool!! That would make Ultraviolet little more than a Frakin nightmare!

CYBERSNARK

Tuesday, August 15, 2006 3:29 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Crude, gross or sexually in-appropiate, take your pick. (I guess insulting your intelligence would count, too...*)

If insulting my intelligence counts, can I nominate Revenge of the Sith?

From the buzz-droids crawling around on a starfighter and falling off, to the Invisible Hand's deck turning 90 degrees when the ship turned, to Anakin's suddenly turning Evil, to Palpatine's out-of-character over-the-top acting, to Grievous' death, to the "let's give away the only remaining secret of the original trilogy" ending, to Vader's Frankenstein impression. . .

Oh, just one scene? Anakin's snap-decision to turn Evil(tm) then. 'Cause apparently falling to the Dark Side isn't a "process" so much as a sudden and deliberate decision. Oh, and it confirms that Anakin Skywalker will now be called "Darth Vader," so the entire original trilogy just loses all of its emotional and dramatic value.

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JOSSISAGOD

Tuesday, August 15, 2006 4:18 PM

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Originally posted by Cybersnark:
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Crude, gross or sexually in-appropiate, take your pick. (I guess insulting your intelligence would count, too...*)
If insulting my intelligence counts, can I nominate Revenge of the Sith?

From the buzz-droids crawling around on a starfighter and falling off, to the Invisible Hand's deck turning 90 degrees when the ship turned, to Anakin's suddenly turning Evil, to Palpatine's out-of-character over-the-top acting, to Grievous' death, to the "let's give away the only remaining secret of the original trilogy" ending, to Vader's Frankenstein impression. . .

Oh, just one scene? Anakin's snap-decision to turn Evil(tm) then. 'Cause apparently falling to the Dark Side isn't a "process" so much as a sudden and deliberate decision. Oh, and it confirms that Anakin Skywalker will now be called "Darth Vader," so the entire original trilogy just loses all of its emotional and dramatic value.

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We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.

I must say, the entire prequel trilogy was pretty bad in my opinion. I figured, "WHY do I need to see what I already knew happened!" I'll have to agree with you about Palps over the top acting.

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particularly in his Mangulation scene, Mangulation's a word...now.

But Manakin's Frankenstein impression was the thing that COMPLETELY ruined the prequel trilogy for me.

JOSSIS(Most Definitely)AGOD

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HEIGHTSRAIDER

Tuesday, August 15, 2006 4:38 PM

Armagedon with Bruce Willis, Liv Tyler and Ben Affleck.

Offensive to the intellect. They did not try to make one single thing scientifically correct.

KANEMAN

Tuesday, August 15, 2006 4:44 PM

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Originally posted by HeightsRaider:
Armagedon with Bruce Willis, Liv Tyler and Ben Affleck.

Offensive to the intellect. They did not try to make one single thing scientifically correct.

Brutal!!

SICKDUDE

Tuesday, August 15, 2006 5:11 PM

Getting back to the theme of the thread, put me down for the scene in Dune where the villain spits in the face of whats-his-face's mother. I really liked Francesca Annis, too. Yuck!

"I am your father, Luke. Give in to the Dark Side, you nob!" - Doug McKenzie

PATSRULE

Wednesday, August 16, 2006 11:44 AM

For me, the most offensive scene that I can think of off the top of my head was in Deep Impact. Morgan Freeman, the president in the movie, had a plan to put the important people in a cave so the nation can live on, and he said something to the effect of "People will be chosen at random to enter the cave and live on, but first, we will preselect the nation's best doctors, scientists, teachers, and artists to survive" I was so offended that they lumped in artists as it was such a self applauding, out-of-touch thing to say. That one line completely took me out of the movie, and I hated it ever since.

SERGEANTX

Wednesday, August 16, 2006 12:03 PM

I often felt that movies with Keanu Reeves should have some kind of warning label or something.

SergeantX

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PHOENIXROSE

Wednesday, August 16, 2006 12:10 PM

I'm confused as to why it would offend you to mention artists as great thinkers that would help preserve the human race.
What I remember thinking was the stupidest bit about "Deep Impact" was the scene where the kid who found the commet (this was years ago that I saw it, so bear with me) is talking to his girlfriend, and she basically says "No I'd rather stay here with people I love and die than go with you and live" and then as he's leaving she runs after the bus sobbing like a loon. WTF? I am remembering that right, aren't I? What a stupid little girl.
However, the most offended I've ever been was watching Episode One. Thanks for ruining Star Wars!

An insincere and evil friend is more to be feared than a wild beast; a wild beast may wound your body, but an evil friend will wound your mind. - Gautama Siddharta

PATSRULE

Wednesday, August 16, 2006 12:41 PM

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Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
I'm confused as to why it would offend you to mention artists as great thinkers that would help preserve the human race.

It offends me that an "artist" portrays the President and says that artists are more important than everybody else and deserve special considerations.

What the hell do Bruce Springstein and U2 do to deserve to live automatically while you and I just have to hope to win a lottery? That idea is so offensive to me, it makes me mad again just thinking about.

EMPXENU

Wednesday, August 16, 2006 1:04 PM

It also raises the question of what he means by "best" artists. Most popular? Make room in the vault for Brangelina and their spawn!

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PHOENIXROSE

Wednesday, August 16, 2006 1:17 PM

"Artist" does not automatically mean "celebrity". When I think of artists I think of people like Leonardo DaVinci, who was brilliant, not just as an artist but an inventor. And without the inventors, the world grinds to a halt.

An insincere and evil friend is more to be feared than a wild beast; a wild beast may wound your body, but an evil friend will wound your mind. - Gautama Siddharta

PATSRULE

Wednesday, August 16, 2006 1:46 PM

If you genuinely think he was talking about Leonardo DaVinci (or a modern day version), you are deluding yourself. He was talking about Grammy winners, Academy Award Winners, Tony Award Winners, Emmy Award winners, etc. Hollywood is a self applauding entity and they were taking another chance to self applaud.

ARABIKUM

Wednesday, August 16, 2006 1:54 PM

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Originally posted by HeightsRaider:
Armagedon with Bruce Willis, Liv Tyler and Ben Affleck.

Offensive to the intellect. They did not try to make one single thing scientifically correct.

You´re right, HR. However, Armageddon was a masterpiece compared to one of the worst movies of all time "The Core". Remember? The earths rotation had stopped and a bunch of weirdos are drilling their way towards the earths core to nuke it and SUCCEED?! I mean, how much worse can a script get?

Pick any scene from that piece of s*** if you like, from Magmawave-Surfing to the attack of the giant crystal-things. This is clearly below zero.

A.

Ted Striker: My orders came through. My squadron ships out tomorrow. We're bombing the storage depots at Daiquiri at 1800 hours. We're coming in from the north, below their radar.

Elaine Dickinson: When will you be back?

Ted Striker: I can't tell you that. It's classified.

KAYNA

Wednesday, August 16, 2006 3:14 PM

Someone mentioned Episode I! I must agree. The whole thing but if you really want a single scene then I have to go with the "whoopee" scene...no wait, I think there are actually two of them. Jake Lloyd wasn't a grood actor but he wasn't horrible as kids go. I believe the blame for those totally inapropriate and out of character exclamations goes to our good friend, Mr. Lucas and whoever in the editing room thought they were good things to leave in.
And the podracing scene. Did it really have to be that long. And didn't Sebulba yank something off of the kid's racer? How does fiddling with a couple of switches fix that?

Since I mentioned overly long racing and/or chase scene...how about the one in MI2 (I was young and stupid when I watched it) or all of them in the Matrix sequels? Why is it so gorram facinating to watch cars and/or motorcyles chase each other around at high speeds for 20 minutes? Ok, slight exageration but if I wanted to see that I'd go to a ruttin' Nascar race. Movies are supposed to have a story in there somewhere.

And to everyone who mentioned Event horizon...Thank you! I hated that whole movie. It was basically just a bloodbath (litterally at some points) with no point or purpose.

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CHRISISALL

Wednesday, August 16, 2006 6:52 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Arabikum:
Armageddon was a masterpiece compared to one of the worst movies of all time "The Core". Remember?

:disappionted:
I had almost forgotten.
The only movie I ever rented that no amount of beer or pizza could make me sit all the way through.

That's (offensive) entertainment Chrisisall

MISBEHAVEN

Wednesday, August 16, 2006 8:56 PM

Jar Jar Binks. What the hell was Lucas thinking?

But the all time worst has to be Ultraviolet. I've never walked out of the theater while viewing a Sci-Fi film, until I started watching this one.

Morbid and creepifying I got no problem with, so long as you do it quiet like.

PHAEDRA

Wednesday, August 16, 2006 9:29 PM

I'm going to have to go old school, all the way back to the 80's and say Cherry 2000. Yes that's Cherry 2000 with Melanie Griffith. Plot: Guy accidentally breaks his love bot and then travels hundreds of miles across a Mad Maxesqu wasteland led by, Melanie Griffith, to get a new model. Offensive to women, robots, and anyone with half a brain. Even Jayne would have been appalled.

Phaedra (a bad luck name)

CHRISISALL

Wednesday, August 16, 2006 9:35 PM

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Originally posted by Phaedra:
I'm going to have to go old school, all the way back to the 80's and say Cherry 2000. Offensive to women, robots, and anyone with half a brain.

Help me Phaedra, I think I lost the left frontals or something.
I own the DVD, and like the Heck out of it.
The final message is to trust another person with your feelings...that ain't so bad, is it?
(Plus: Basil Poledouris did the music...)

I think it's a hoot and a half.

Don't hate me Chrisisall

DESKTOPHIPPIE

Wednesday, August 16, 2006 9:58 PM

*is keeping very quiet because she loves Armageddon*

Sometimes it's nice to just switch the brain off and enjoy some big special effects... Heck, it makes you appreciate the great movies like Serenity all the more!

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FELLOWTRAVELER

Wednesday, August 16, 2006 9:58 PM

While I haven't seen the movie (it's yet to be released) and I don't know the genre, I did read that in Dakota Fanning's next movie she does partial nudity and is raped.

A 12 year old girl nude and raped on film? I suspect that's gonna' be pretty G.D. offensive...

KAYNA

Wednesday, August 16, 2006 10:20 PM

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Originally posted by misbehaven:
Jar Jar Binks. What the hell was Lucas thinking?

Holly crap! I forgot about JarJar! I guess I blocked him out. He's that aweful!

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But the all time worst has to be Ultraviolet. I've never walked out of the theater while viewing a Sci-Fi film, until I started watching this one.

I'm glad I missed this one then.

And on the topic of Mila Jovovich (however you spell it), what about the Resident evil movies? I know some folks are gonna kill me for this but I actually enjoyed the first one. It wasn't a great movie but I thought it was fun. No, it didn't have any characters from the game but I liked that. The characters aren't the most important parts of RE. What's important are Umbrella and Zombie type monsters. The second movie tried to fit thier characters into the game world and screwed it up royaly. The Nemesis had horrible makeup and what was with the ending? Since when are there head explody type telekinetics in the world of RE?!??

Hmm. Looks like I've been using this thread to rant a little. Sorry about that.

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MISBEHAVEN

Wednesday, August 16, 2006 10:28 PM

I enjoyed both the Resident Evil movies, but then I love zombie/mutant flicks. My all time favorite zombie film is Shaun of the Dead. That movie is absolutely hilarious.

Morbid and creepifying I got no problem with, so long as you do it quiet like.

KAYNA

Wednesday, August 16, 2006 10:34 PM

I tend to as well. RE2 mostly bothered me for the wierd things it does to the universe it is a part of. I probably shouldn't have brought it up here but it was in my head.

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CHRISISALL

Wednesday, August 16, 2006 10:36 PM

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Originally posted by DesktopHippie:
*is keeping very quiet because she loves Armageddon*

*me too*Chrisisall

PHAEDRA

Thursday, August 17, 2006 12:26 AM

Armageddon and Cherry 2000? Shame shame

Phaedra (a bad luck name)

CHRISISALL

Thursday, August 17, 2006 12:40 AM

I bet you like.....
Steel Magnolias!!!!

Sorry, that was rude. No Browncoat could like that one...I take it back.

Chrisisall

DESKTOPHIPPIE

Thursday, August 17, 2006 9:26 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
I bet you like.....
Steel Magnolias!!!!

Sorry, that was rude. No Browncoat could like that one...I take it back.

Chrisisall

*is keeping very, very quiet*

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DARKFLY

Thursday, August 17, 2006 10:12 AM

I admit to liking Armageddon I mean I don't give it 5 stars or anything(4 stars),& I watched Steel Magnolias recently & thought it was okay(3 stars).
I'll keep quiet now...

The most offensive movie ever is easily Star Wars Episode I,okay Revenge Of The Sith is the most dissapointing but Episode I is the worst.Most offensive scene's...Jar Jar Binks he is a f**king knob head who doesn't add anything to the movie, he(it)only makes the movie f**king worser.

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RMMC

Saturday, September 9, 2006 3:24 AM

I think I'll got with any of the SW 'prequels.'

The first was inane, poorly written and ham-handedly edited, as previously pointed out. Jar Jar is a whole other discussion I'd rather not have.

The second had me doing evil Willow quotes in less than five minutes. ("Bored now.") The complete lack of acting ability of CH combined with the negative chemistry between him and NP was just mind-boggling. Didn't they screen test them together?! If so, just how drunk was Lucas when he made that decision?

And the third. Even more yawn-making than the second. The only good thing I can say about it is that the big fight scene plays much better if you Mistie it with the Black Knight's dialogue from Monty Python and the Holy Grail. (Heard tell of a showing in Yooper Country where that actually happened due to bored theater-goers combined with the film breaking at the so-called climax of the fight.)

There are two other films I wish I had walked out on: Clash of the Titans and Troy. Bad acting, bad scripting & playing too fast & loose with mythology. In both cases.

Still never walked out on a SF/F film. I have walked out on a horror flick (at 12 I discovered it just wasn't for me--I left after 20min of 'Jaws.' Never have seen the rest of it and I haven't regretted it either.)

*****
RMMC

MENTISMORTIS

Saturday, September 9, 2006 4:26 AM

ultraviolet was pretty bad. it was the total lack of humor. felt nothing like real life.

war of the worlds, not the tom cruise one, but the independent one that came out about the same time. oh my gawd, what a horrible piece of crap. that movie should come with a written apology.

i liked the tom cruise wotw better than i expected except for dakota fanning's character. i would've had to shook that little whiner til she popped.

and in the not a sci fi category, i was absolutely offended by the marketing for lost in translation. trying to pass that piece of go-se off as funny and interesting.

never really been morally or physically grossed out by a movie. a clockwork orange wasn't nearly as offensive as it could have been. some of the nastier stuff from the book was toned down a bit.

rob

"Everytime a dog salivates, a behavioral scientist must ring a bell," Robert Hienlien, " I Will Fear No Evil"

KAYNA

Saturday, September 9, 2006 4:36 AM

There seems to be a consensus on the SW prequels. The only positive thing I have to say about them off the top of my head is that the fight scenes were kind of pretty.

Still, I have to say that the things I found most offensive in the world of SW films were the "additions" made in the DVD releas of the original tilogy. The changes in the "Special Edition" VHS could largely be ignored or skipped (the Jabba scene in A New Hope made me shudder and choke the only time I watched it) but was it really neccassary to replace Bobba Fett's voice? Or the original Emperor? And why is HD in Return of the Jedi?!

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Mal: Yeah, well I'm known for that.

SHINYTRINKET

Saturday, September 9, 2006 4:48 AM

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Things that make you go "EEeewww"

This one is my HUSBAND'S, not mine...the scene in our beloved BDM when the Operative paralyzes Dr. Mathias and makes him fall on the sword--my husband has seen the movie twice with me, and he covered his eyes the second time when he knew it was coming! He said it was one of the gruesom-er things he's seen on film.

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KAYNA

Saturday, September 9, 2006 5:23 AM

Really? That grossed him out?

(a la Mal)Huh!

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Op: You're fighting a war you've already lost.
Mal: Yeah, well I'm known for that.

FINN MAC CUMHAL

Saturday, September 9, 2006 2:35 PM

Event Horizon was definitely harsh. That and The Ring are the only movies to actually frighten me since I was little. If that’s what it means to be offensive, these apply.

SinCity didn’t really do much for me. I actually found it more boring then offensive. I was oddly tantalized by the prospect of torturing Jessica Alba.

Clockwork Orange was sort of the same thing as SinCity, just with no big Hollywood actors.

Clash of the Titans was one of the most awesomest movies! The acting was so awful. The cinematography was awful. The continuity was awful. I loved it. I own it. I don’t know if anyone else on earth does this or not, but I tend to remember certain phrases from movies that become integrated in my everyday speech. Several of them are from this movie. The world just wouldn’t be the same without Clash of Titans.

Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

PENGUIN

Saturday, September 9, 2006 2:45 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DesktopHippie:
*is keeping very quiet because she loves Armageddon*

*watches Armageddon with DesktopHippie...tears up at the ending*

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FINN MAC CUMHAL

Saturday, September 9, 2006 3:00 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DesktopHippie:
*is keeping very quiet because she loves Armageddon*

Sometimes it's nice to just switch the brain off and enjoy some big special effects... Heck, it makes you appreciate the great movies like Serenity all the more!

I thought Armageddon was a great film. It is widely criticized for its crazy inaccuracies and cheese, but it is no more inaccurate or cheesy then Superman or Wonder Woman. The truth is that Armageddon was a comic book story without the comic book. Noble heroes fighting for Truth, Justice and the American way! I loved it. It sort of had the feel of the Song of Roland.

Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

CHRISISALL

Saturday, September 9, 2006 3:15 PM

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
I thought Armageddon was a great film. It is widely criticized for its crazy inaccuracies and cheese, but it is no more inaccurate or cheesy then Superman or Wonder Woman. The truth is that Armageddon was a comic book story without the comic book. Noble heroes fighting for Truth, Justice and the American way!

We are in complete agreement here.

Chrisisall

SHINYTRINKET

Saturday, September 9, 2006 3:36 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kayna:
Really? That grossed him out?

(a la Mal)Huh!

Yeah, he's a wimp and he admits it!

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13

Saturday, September 9, 2006 9:05 PM

Peter Jackson. (POST-Dead Alive)

PJ: I know! Let's concentrate on the little people, and show that it's not always about the heroes...and then kill everyone except for the underdeveloped main characters!

KAITIAN

Saturday, September 9, 2006 10:04 PM

Doe Jake Lloyd's Anakin remind anyone else of Moochie from the old Disney movies?

REAVERMAN

Saturday, September 9, 2006 10:56 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
My most offended moment came during the rape/beating scene in A Clockwork Orange. Not to say it wasn't a good movie, I just found that scene exceptionally disturbing, I suppose.

THE rape/beating seen? You obviously haven't seen the full version. There are four or five of them. Overall, I loved A Clockwork Orange. I thought it was a great social commentary and character piece, but I have to agree with you crisisall. Those scenes are pretty disturbing.

You're welcome on my boat. God ain't.

CHARLIETHEBLOODY

Sunday, September 10, 2006 12:07 AM

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Clash of the Titans was one of the most awesomest movies! The acting was so awful. The cinematography was awful. The continuity was awful. I loved it. I own it. I don’t know if anyone else on earth does this or not, but I tend to remember certain phrases from movies that become integrated in my everyday speech. Several of them are from this movie. The world just wouldn’t be the same without Clash of Titans.

hear hear, it's a total classic, and was an integral part of my childhood.

I tend not to be offended by nastiness in films, being disturbed is a different thing and I like a film that upsets me (even if it's not one I'll want to watch again and again)

so for the insulting my intelligence/boredom threshold, there was a james bond film, not sure which one but from about 5 years ago, that I got dragged to the cinema to see and would have walked out of if I'd been on my own. dreadful piece of crap

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STEGASAURUS

Sunday, September 10, 2006 12:32 AM

I would have to say my claim to this thread would be the sex scene in BloodRayne.

What a way to just throw a completely needless scene into a movie. There was no reason for it to be where it was. There was no build-up between the characters, and afterwards, there was no recognition of what happened between them.

This is of course beside the fact that the movie itself was horrible. Unfortunately, when the DVD came out I had forgotten just how horrible it was when I saw it at the theater, so I bought it. It's the one and only time that I can honestly admit that I must have blacked out and mean it. I really forgot...and then I had to waste the $$ buying it.

Needless to say, my wife smacked me when I got home, cause she didn't forget... LoL

KAYNA

Sunday, September 10, 2006 5:19 PM

Ooo. I never watched Blood Rayne. They're good games and all but nothing about the trailers mde me want to see it. I'm glad now that I didn't.

And speaking of sex scenes, has anyone here watched Team America: World Police? Puppety sex anyone? Puppet sex that involves craping on each other...guhh *shudder*

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Mal: Yeah, well I'm known for that.

EMPXENU

Sunday, September 10, 2006 9:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
The truth is that Armageddon was a comic book story without the comic book.

If you mean a comic book with shitty dialogue, manufactured melodrama, vomit-inducing sentimentality, twenty frames a page and a fucking orange filter, then sure.

No, contrary to popular belief, "comic book" isn't synonymous with "lobotomized".

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"As far as we can discern, the sole purpose of human existence is to kindle a light of meaning in the darkness of mere being" - Carl Jung

FINN MAC CUMHAL

Sunday, September 10, 2006 10:39 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by EmpXenu:
No, contrary to popular belief, "comic book" isn't synonymous with "lobotomized".

If “lobotomized” means melodrama, sentimentality and shitty dialogue, then I’m afraid it does. Some things are just meant to be fun, not to be taken seriously.

Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

HEWHOKICKSALOT

Monday, September 11, 2006 9:23 PM

Two words:

STARSHIP TROOPERS

I'm hard-pressed to pick a single scene. They were all entirely offensive, either to my intelligence or my sense of creativity.

Perhaps the most offensive (or nearly so) scene involves one officer's brain being sucked out of his head by a large bug's spiky tendril. Because, sure, sucking out someone's gray matter through a straw would of course instill you with all of their intelligence and insight...

"People actually pay money for this crap?"

Rob O.

FLAKBAIT

Monday, September 11, 2006 9:54 PM

lol, I remember seeing Starship Troopers. My friends and I enjoyed watching it, somehow, then on the way home, it suddenly hit us and we were like...WTF?

It's been a while since I've seen, and I'm certainly not knocking the film or it's sequals, which I love, but, in the original Evil Dead, the scene of the tree raping the girl. That was pretty brutal.

Outside the genre, I easily give the award to Se7en, when they show the, ah, "tool" used to kill the prostitute. That still gives me the shudders.

NVGHOSTRIDER

Monday, September 11, 2006 10:11 PM

I have to say the insinuated murder of children shoulda gotten that dman Episode III an R rating. Everyone in the theater got what happened to the "younglings". A five year old kid in front of me even asked his parents why the kids were killed. That is traumatizing for a small child. PG-13 or not. And I must agree with Stegasaurus on the whole Bloodrayne issue. Not to mention you gotta be a pretty bad filmmaker(cough cough Uwe Boll cough) If you can't even put Michael Madsen in a decent role.

FINN MAC CUMHAL

Tuesday, September 12, 2006 2:56 AM

On Star Wars and their offensive scenes, I think the most offensive scene in any Star Wars movie, for me personally, was Luke getting his arm lobbed off by Darth Vader.

Now a note on this, I actually think the Empire Strikes Back was the best Star Wars film and one of the best films ever made, bar none, but as a young boy I was terribly disturbed by that scene.

I can imagine that there might have been something similar for young children watching Episode III, but if it had bee up to me, I think I would have advised them to remove the scene and make the show PG instead of PG-13. I’m opposed to the PG-13 rating.

The only other scene that disturbed me more then that was something I saw in Jaws. Of course Jaws was rated R and I had no business being at that movie. I can vague remember an image of a dead half eaten bloated guy pop out on the screen and I lost it. My mother had to carry me out of that theater screaming. To this very day I have an irrational fear of sharks. Of course, as far as irrational fears go, sharks are probably among the healthier of irrational fears.

Also I’m thinking that I really have to see BloodRayne. If it was as bad as it’s being portrayed.

Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

BROWNCOATSANDINISTA

Tuesday, September 12, 2006 3:47 AM

Aeon Flux. Not the Cartoons, which were good and thoughtprovoking in a cyberpunk kinda fashion, but the horrible, terrible, sucky, so bad that I wouldn't wish it upon Reavers so that they wouldn't have to suffer through it, film. No point, not kinky or disturbing, etc. etc. and so forth.

The Secret Window. The part where Johnny Depp is eating the corn that he planted the dead body((ies)) under. Ughhh shudder shudder.

"I'm not going to say Serenity is the greatest SciFi movie ever; oh wait yes I am." - Orson Scott Card

MISSTRESSAHARA

Tuesday, September 12, 2006 4:46 AM

Question to my fellow Browncoats and this seems a perfect thread to put it in. Battlefield Earth. Worth a rental?

One movie I remember going to as a kid that was so bad my mother had to come (on a bus) and bring me home. I was seeing it with my older brothers (who were only a few years older than me) and they and she warned me that it might be too scary for someone my age. But as all kids do I told them I'd be alright, I wanted to go, I didn't think it would be so bad. Boy was I wrong.

It was called Grizzley and it was about this huge grizzley that was running around the woods killing people. I was young, neive, stupid. I didn't think there would be blood, I thought it was about a sweet bear.

I was only a little rattled during the movie, till it came to a point where a small boy only a little younger than me was hugged(crushed) by the grizzley and his head either popped off or he was split in two (I know body parts were involved) I screamed and cried and my bro's had to call my mom to come get me (in between I told you so's) because I didn't want to stay. My bro's didn't want to leave because they were enjoying themselves and thought it wasn't fair they had to leave just because their stupid little sister couldn't handle a little violence (Asshats) but really at that point you want the one who'll comfort you most and I wanted my mommy.

So I waited (by myself) in the lobby, my bro's OCCASIONALLY coming to check on me waiting for my mom. And stupid me as if I didn't get enough I popped my head in occasionally to see what was happening. My mom showed up after a long wait (bus) and by then the movie was over and we all went home and from that moment if certain movies appealed to me I'm warned off them.

Till it came to Event Horizon. My bro warned me (one of the two I saw Grizzley with years ago) I should have listened.

*whew* Haven't thought of that in years.

If I'm a bitch, then life just got interesting

ZENGRRL

Tuesday, September 12, 2006 6:50 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Misstressahara:
Question to my fellow Browncoats and this seems a perfect thread to put it in. Battlefield Earth. Worth a rental?

No...run from Battlefield Earth. If you must watch it, I think it's playing on HBO through next month. That way you can save your money and be able to change the channel when it gets really bad.

SINGATE

Tuesday, September 12, 2006 9:05 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Zengrrl:
That way you can save your money and be able to change the channel when it gets really bad.

Having never seen this myself I feel compelled to ask. Are you suggesting there are some good parts?

On topic, many scenes in the extended version of Dune are quite nasty. The Baron spitting on Jessica, Raban crushing some helpless creature then sucking up the juice, and who can forget that wonderful heartplug scene.

I can't believe so many of you have such an aversion to Event Horizon. It's a simple, touching story about a man who loves his ship. I mean, as Browncoats, can we not all identify with that?

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We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far.

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, September 12, 2006 2:15 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Misstressahara:
Question to my fellow Browncoats and this seems a perfect thread to put it in. Battlefield Earth. Worth a rental?

No.

To paraphrase Dawn: Some movie experiments are doomed before they begin.

Hey, I'm all up for bad movies (Ballistic: Ecks VS. Sever, anyone?), but Battlefield Earth is
in a class of it's own. Too much money behind it to be cheesy- not enough plot or character to be interesting. I think we've hit the bottom with this one- it's a movie I might want to view during the act of suicide.
Think like a really REALLY bad and more boring Waterworld, minus Costner, Hopper, the OK musical score and decent editing.

I think they were forceably showing it to prisoners at Abu Gharib....

And I saw Grizzly in the movies, it grossed me out, worse than Jaws! Arms flying all about- EEEEWWWWWWW!!!!!
But I was, like, 10.

Sensitive Chrisisall

JUKO

Tuesday, September 12, 2006 9:49 PM

Humm...

Ultraviolet definitely goes down as one of the worst movies ever (Wimmer should have been happy with Equilibrium... Ultraviolet was a cinematic travesty in every way)

Underworld: Evolution was also dreadful. Kate Beckinsale in leather was the only saving grace. And even then, I found my attention wandering.

Aeon Flux. Ugh. No amount of lithe women in form-fitting vinyl kicking ass is gonna save this piece of crud.

Dungeons and Dragons. This is probably why folks who play the game get laughed at. Jeremy Irons, what the hell were you thinking when you agreed to be in this?

^-- Four movies that made me actually regret paying five bucks to rent 'em.

Other notables for cinematic crud-fests:
All of the Star Wars prequels (unfortunate, since I like most of the actors)

Both Matrix sequels (unfortunate, since I'm a fan of Fishburne and Weaving... but apparently the Wachowskis had been licking toads when they made these stinkers)

Bram Stoker's Dracula. What's worse than Keanu Reeves trying to act? Keanu Reeves trying to do an English accent. Only saving graces to this one is Gary Oldman and Tom Waits' performances.

The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Why in god's name did I actually buy this?

Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children. Unless you're fired up by CGI to the point of sexual ecstasy, or if you're a devout Final Fantasy fanboi, AVOID THIS AT ALL COSTS. Plot, story, character motivation, character introduction... y'know, all the stuff that they tell you to do in any first-year writing class? You won't find any of it here. Seriously. You know how the main character's allies are introduced? They literally just drop in during the midst of a fight. Literally drop in. From this zeppelin/plane thingy (no, we don't know what it is or where it came from). That's it. We're expected to know who the hell they are. I am so happy I downloaded this one rather than renting it. I'm not so happy that I actually watched it all the way through.

Is it so much to ask that film-makers nowadays, I dunno, take a bloody film course or two?

The movie that had the most shocking moment, in my opinion, was the climax to Caché. Not a sci-fi/fantasy movie, but if you watch the movie and see this scene, I guarantee you'll jump.
Assuming you stay awake through the movie. It may have cleaned up at Cannes, but it should have been about twenty minutes shorter, and a lot of the symbolism either isn't clear, or isn't carried through.

Does Blue Sun sponser the Blue Man Group?

HEWHOKICKSALOT

Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:14 PM

I guess it was inevitable that this thread turn into a general movie critique, veering away from the original idea; Most offensive SCENE.

How about RoboCop 2? Offensive to our intelect in so many ways... When RoboCop 2 gets high on the Nuke... A cyborg with a drug habit? Sure, I believe it.

I was also deeply offended by the producers' use of a CHILD as one of the lead baddies. Every scene he was in offended me in a lot of ways. Shooting at cops, selling drugs, watching as RoboCop is dismantled. And when he's bleeding to death in a pile of money... Good taste, Hollywood.

"Do you think I'm stupid?"

"In every way possible."

Rob O.

FLAKBAIT

Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:58 PM

On the topic of offensive/traumatizing to children, I'll list Transformers: The Movie. I love my Transformers as much now as I did then, and seeing a whole bunch of your heroes massacred right in front of you, with no real consequence to the killers and no noble sacrifice, is pretty horrifying.

I've watched it with my 6-year-old nephew a few times, and it doesn't really have that affect anymore, since he wasn't watching the series as it aired. But it still makes me cringe a little.

DESKTOPHIPPIE

Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:10 PM

I find it ironic that Ultraviolet is the name of a really terrible movie when it's also the name of a brilliant TV show that aired in the UK.

The show was nothing to do with the movie. It was about vampires actually, but written very much as a cop show/crime drama. There were only about six episodes - UK TV series tend to be much shorter than the US as there are fewer writers - and it was never renewed or even repeated as far as I saw, but it was very well written and great to watch.

More animations available at http://desktophippie.googlepages.com

JONNYQUEST

Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:37 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by patsrule:
If you genuinely think he was talking about Leonardo DaVinci (or a modern day version), you are deluding yourself. He was talking about Grammy winners, Academy Award Winners, Tony Award Winners, Emmy Award winners, etc. Hollywood is a self applauding entity and they were taking another chance to self applaud.

I honestly don't think the writers were bright enough to take the apportunity. I'm pretty sure they were just regurgitating what they'd learned in Humanities class about who the important people are: the intelligensia.

"Well, here I am."

JONNYQUEST

Wednesday, September 13, 2006 7:09 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
I thought Armageddon was a great film. It is widely criticized for its crazy inaccuracies and cheese, but it is no more inaccurate or cheesy then Superman or Wonder Woman. The truth is that Armageddon was a comic book story without the comic book. Noble heroes fighting for Truth, Justice and the American way!
We are in complete agreement here.
Chrisisall

Finn mac Cumhal and Chrisisall in complete agreement? Damn, I miss the Fascists.

By the way, not answering the thread, in the not too distant past did an Armageddon, Deep Impact, Core marathon. I'm a masochist, what can I say? If only I had The Day After Tomorrow...they are the same movie. Different takes, but that's Hollywood. Armageddon was the most satisfying. Bruce makes the Ultimate Sacrifice for Liv (sigh) and Afflack! Deep Impact the least. Why was it important for Tea Leoni to find Maximilian Schell just to die with him? Oh, yes to find out how he got out of Disney's the Black Hole. Oops! Too late. Time to be swallowed the Poiseidon Tsunami. The Core was just formula, Pablum, and occasionally fun.

C'mon people, I recognize you from the MST3K thread; insulting our intelligence is no reason to spit out a movie. It may be the very ingredient that entertains us. I see the zipper in his lizard suit, I see the wire holding up the spaceship.

Sure there's a lot of insulting schlock out there, but ain't we tough enough to take it? I think we are.

"Well, here I am."

PURPLEBELLY

Wednesday, September 13, 2006 7:19 PM

Stringer Bell with a Hackney accent - wot more could you ask for? Apparently, Joe Aherne didn't want to write a second series because he thought the idea had been written out - US Network execs could take note, although they didn't take up the US pilot, even with 'Dris.

Stringer Bell meets Commodore Norrington, there's a thought ...

JONNYQUEST

Wednesday, September 13, 2006 7:37 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Misstressahara:
Question to my fellow Browncoats and this seems a perfect thread to put it in. Battlefield Earth. Worth a rental?

Okay, so do you like the very worst movies there are? Do you have a craving that can only be appeased by overwrought, self-important motion picture afterbirth? If you do, and if you have a hookah close at hand and ready to use, tune in, turn on, drop out. This is the movie for you. Where else can you watch 2 hours of John Travolta run around with hi-tech snot trails coming out of his nose? It raises "drek" to a whole new level: this is sub-drek.

"Well, here I am."

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

Wednesday, September 13, 2006 7:52 PM

re Armagddeon

My wife turned me on to it. SHe's not a fan of Bruce Willis, disaster movies or sci- fi , really, but she pointed out that Harry Stamper is a Robert Heinlein hero-- a competent individual who makes a sacrifice for the greater good.

That theme makes the movie acceptable, in spite of scientific inaccuracy, gratuitous destruction, too many special effects and an over done plot

KAYNA

Wednesday, September 13, 2006 8:47 PM

Not on the actual topic of the thread, sorry, I just wanted to respond to a couple of folks here.

Quote:
Originally posted by Juko:
Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children. Unless you're fired up by CGI to the point of sexual ecstasy, or if you're a devout Final Fantasy fanboi, AVOID THIS AT ALL COSTS. Plot, story, character motivation, character introduction... y'know, all the stuff that they tell you to do in any first-year writing class? You won't find any of it here. Seriously. You know how the main character's allies are introduced? They literally just drop in during the midst of a fight. Literally drop in. From this zeppelin/plane thingy (no, we don't know what it is or where it came from). That's it. We're expected to know who the hell they are. I am so happy I downloaded this one rather than renting it. I'm not so happy that I actually watched it all the way through.

I just had to respond to this. Advent Children was weak on that stuff but that's mostly because it's a sequel to the game (and I'm not a fangirl, I've only played two FF games, FFVII being one of them). I actually think of it as a continuation. All the characters and such were introduced in that. If you're familiar with the game it's pretty good. I don't think it's amazing but I enjoyed it. This was a movie made for a specific audience and those are always hit and miss with everyone outside of that target group.

Quote:
Originally posted by JonnyQuest:
C'mon people, I recognize you from the MST3K thread; insulting our intelligence is no reason to spit out a movie. It may be the very ingredient that entertains us. I see the zipper in his lizard suit, I see the wire holding up the spaceship.

Sure there's a lot of insulting schlock out there, but ain't we tough enough to take it? I think we are.

I agree with this whole heartedly. I love a good piece of crap movie. They can really make you laugh. I've had a couple marathons for things like this with a cousin whose B horror fanatic and a friend whose obsessed with MST3K.

Ever heard of Zombi 3? No, I didn't spell it wrong. It's originaly Italian I believe. The Zombi series goes through at least 5 and from what I can tell, non of them have anything to do with each other but I've only watched #3 all the way through. It takes place in China and there are ninja zombies at one point. And you can see the guy with the smoke machine ducking around a corner in one scene. Lots of laughs.

And Jack Frost. This movie has nothing to do with Michael Keaton. It's about a serial killer incarnate in a snow man. And the sequel takes place on a tropical island. Actually, These two seem to be bad on purpose. They really make fun of the whole thing, especially the second one.

Any of the Critters movies..Oh yeah! Caveman with Ringo Star! Not a recent movie but still funny in a sad kind of way. And it has a young Dennis Quaid dressed in furs and skins. Mmmmmmmm

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Op: You're fighting a war you've already lost.
Mal: Yeah, well I'm known for that.

NVGHOSTRIDER

Wednesday, September 13, 2006 9:02 PM

Can't believe you included the Fulci flicks. Okay, Italian zombie flicks kinda suck. But Zombi 2 rocked ass.

We need a MST3K with Browncoat hosts for "mainstream" movies. Sure might make them a bit more interesting.

FREMDFIRMA

Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:26 PM

Oh I gotta touch in here.

Quote:
While I haven't seen the movie (it's yet to be released) and I don't know the genre, I did read that in Dakota Fanning's next movie she does partial nudity and is raped.

A 12 year old girl nude and raped on film? I suspect that's gonna' be pretty G.D. offensive...

FYI, for them that don't know - Dakota Fanning is the voice of Lilo, from Lilo and Stitch.

The working title of said monstrosity is "Hound Dog" and from the beginning it seemed naught more than 'fanservice' for pervos and freaks - considering the script ran heavy to those scenes and virtually nil on plot, currently funding has been suspended by the production company because of the furor, helped along in part by yours truly...

It completely shocks me that
A. There's a sufficient audience wanting to see Lilo molested, enough that this perv thinks he can make money on it.
B. That anyone would finance or invest in such a thing.
C. That any theatre would run it.

Anyhow, currently the original financer has caved, and hopefully no one else is warped enough to step forward and pay for this horror.

Just so ya know,

-Frem

FINN MAC CUMHAL

Thursday, September 14, 2006 1:27 AM

I haven’t seen this movie and certainly not this scene, and odds are good that if it comes to the cinema I won’t go see it. It’s just not my cup o’tea.

I’m not sure what I think of this. I think there is a lot of overreacting to this scene. I’ve seen rape scenes of young girls on tv dramas before, and I don’t remember anyone getting hysterical over those. The subject matter is definitely weighty and probably offensive and disturbing, and this particularly scene is probably pushing the envelope, but I’m not quite ready to say the filming of the scene represents any more perversion then is usually widely accepted on tv and in Hollywood. I reserve the right to change my mind on that.

That being said, the only thing I’m uncomfortable with is the parents of Miss Fanning. I’m not going to judge them and say they aren’t good parents, but I can’t imagine that I would be comfortable putting my 12 year old daughter in a position in which she would have to act out a rape scene, as tastefully as it may be, much less appear nude on screen. Being as talented an actress as Dakota Fanning is can be very doubled edged. She might get an Oscar. Personally, I think Fanning is the most impressive young actresses in the movies today. Does Miss Fannings ability to act out a rape scene necessarily mean she has the maturity to understand it, and is any possible resulting neuroses worth any subsequent benefit? I don’t know, and I have to trust that her parents are able to make that determination. The number of young Actresses and Actors that end up in bad stead in later life as a consequence of their careers does make me a little bit uncomfortable with this.

Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

KANEMAN

Thursday, September 14, 2006 1:46 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by HeWhoKicksAlot:
Two words:

STARSHIP TROOPERS

I'm hard-pressed to pick a single scene. They were all entirely offensive, either to my intelligence or my sense of creativity.

Perhaps the most offensive (or nearly so) scene involves one officer's brain being sucked out of his head by a large bug's spiky tendril. Because, sure, sucking out someone's gray matter through a straw would of course instill you with all of their intelligence and insight...

"People actually pay money for this crap?"

Rob O.

What?! Great movie. I will still stay with Ultraviolet. There is another movie I rented once that almost made me throw up.."something" the clown. It's about a clown that gets raped by hillbillies. Kind of Clock W. Orange meets Deliverance....Messed up stuff.

KANEMAN

Thursday, September 14, 2006 1:54 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Misstressahara:
Question to my fellow Browncoats and this seems a perfect thread to put it in. Battlefield Earth. Worth a rental?

One movie I remember going to as a kid that was so bad my mother had to come (on a bus) and bring me home. I was seeing it with my older brothers (who were only a few years older than me) and they and she warned me that it might be too scary for someone my age. But as all kids do I told them I'd be alright, I wanted to go, I didn't think it would be so bad. Boy was I wrong.

It was called Grizzley and it was about this huge grizzley that was running around the woods killing people. I was young, neive, stupid. I didn't think there would be blood, I thought it was about a sweet bear.

I was only a little rattled during the movie, till it came to a point where a small boy only a little younger than me was hugged(crushed) by the grizzley and his head either popped off or he was split in two (I know body parts were involved) I screamed and cried and my bro's had to call my mom to come get me (in between I told you so's) because I didn't want to stay. My bro's didn't want to leave because they were enjoying themselves and thought it wasn't fair they had to leave just because their stupid little sister couldn't handle a little violence (Asshats) but really at that point you want the one who'll comfort you most and I wanted my mommy.

So I waited (by myself) in the lobby, my bro's OCCASIONALLY coming to check on me waiting for my mom. And stupid me as if I didn't get enough I popped my head in occasionally to see what was happening. My mom showed up after a long wait (bus) and by then the movie was over and we all went home and from that moment if certain movies appealed to me I'm warned off them.

Till it came to Event Horizon. My bro warned me (one of the two I saw Grizzley with years ago) I should have listened.

*whew* Haven't thought of that in years.

If I'm a bitch, then life just got interesting

LOL..My mother took me and my brothers to see Grizzly at the drive-in when we were kids. She thought it was a Disney movie. We are all sitting in the car eating popcorn....Bang! the bear rips the head off of a horse..My mother sits up quickly and says "Whoa time to go kids". I had nightmares for years.

FREMDFIRMA

Thursday, September 14, 2006 3:52 AM

Scenes, not scene, Finn - peoples problem with it came of the fact stated above, there's basically a thread-thin plot that seems to only exist in order to justify said scenes... if there was a movie in it at all, folks might have been a little less offended, but the original script had less plot than your typical porn flick.

The elvis tie-in of itself was disturbing, but possibly (tho unlikely) coincidental.

If there was an actual movie behind it, that'd be a different thing, but as it stands, there is not.

-Frem

FINN MAC CUMHAL

Thursday, September 14, 2006 4:06 AM

If that is indeed the case, then I would agree with you, but I have a hard time believing that. What A-list actress, much less their parents of a 12-year A-list actress, would sign up for a porno flick? I can see them stretching the ethical envelope if they really believe there might be an Oscar involved. The only way I can see this approaching anything like a porno-flick is if there is some politics behind it, but I haven’t heard anything like that. You might be right. I don’t know, but I’m reserving my judgment.

Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

FREMDFIRMA

Saturday, September 16, 2006 12:48 AM

Sorry for the delay, had log-in issues.

Apparently the producers found the required dosh to do an 'emergency wrap' - and if you are suspicious of what that source may be, you're not alone.

A good overview of the whole mess can be found here.
http://www.minorcon.org/dakota_fanning1.html

I find it very telling that the crew walked off the set, disgusted, and from what I have heard, some of them quit as well.

-Frem

TRAVELER

Sunday, September 17, 2006 8:20 AM

I remember when Jody Foster played a child prostitute in "Taxi Driver". People got upset about that and she never actually commited any acts in this nature.

Now it seems fine to actually have a rape scene with a 12 year old.

Well lets hope it never gets released. I think the critics will have a field day with it if does.

Traveler

SABRI3L

Thursday, September 21, 2006 4:42 PM

I don't think they were refering to musical artists...

MISSTRESSAHARA

Friday, September 22, 2006 11:54 PM

Thanks for the heads up on Battlefield Earth. I kind of already knew from reviews and people talking about this movie and reading what it was about and seeing pictures (not to mention reading up on Hubbard and finding out just what a pathetically bad writer he really was) that it wouldn't be anything to waste my time or money on, and I have this feeling Travolta wishes he could wipe the minds of everyone on Earth and make them forget he ever made it (but since he follows the teachings of an alien in Scientology maybe he'll actually ba able to do it in the near future.)

Someone had actually tried to kipdnap.... I mean convert me to Scientology, trying to convince me how messed up my life was and how she found hope and happiness through the works of Hubbard and how it could help me. Brought out "Tist's bible Dia-(it sounded like a cool word to use)-netics. And I'd seen the commercials long before and thought it might be something to look into, but when the hairs on the back of your neck stick out and your concious is screaming "Get the f*@% out, you know something isn't exactly kosher. Since then I've learned the truth of that cult, and I'm glad to have stayed away. Just.... felt like sharing.

If I'm a bitch, then life just got interesting

CRUITHNE3753

Saturday, September 23, 2006 8:34 PM

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REGINAROADIE

Saturday, September 23, 2006 9:08 PM

About the MATRIX sequels, some speculate that the real story behind the disintegration of the MATRIX film was that Larry Wachowski was starting to become deeply involved with this professional dominatrix or something like that and he was starting to get more interested in her than the production of the two movies.

ROLLING STONE magazine, back in February, published this article on Larry Wachowski, half of the brain trust that created THE MATRIX franchise, and this bizzare behind the scenes story. Here's the link to it.

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/9138137/the_mystery_of_larry_wa
chowski

So to answer your question, they probably wern't licking toads. One of them, at least, was on the job. The other was off crossdressing and being some domme's slave.

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BROWNCOATJIM

Monday, September 25, 2006 11:25 PM

I thought Event Horizon was just a hell of a good scary movie! I didn't find it overly offensive (certainly not in the new vein of modern horror movies).

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RMMC

Thursday, October 5, 2006 2:51 AM

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Originally posted by Juko:

Bram Stoker's Dracula. What's worse than Keanu Reeves trying to act? Keanu Reeves trying to do an English accent. Only saving graces to this one is Gary Oldman and Tom Waits' performances.

The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Why in god's name did I actually buy this?

Oh, how'd I forget those two pieces of gos se?

I like vampire flicks. Usually even bad, cheesey ones, but this...*shudder* Every time some filmmaker decides to redo Drac, they use some new...angle, hook, what have you. To give an example, the Frank Langella Dracula of the 70's went for seduction, others have played for the gothic approach, some for the strict horror. This piece of

went for beastiality and necrophilia. A movie is pretty bad when you start making 'Cold Ethel' jokes in the theater...and the folks around you laugh. (Yeah, my place in the special hell has been reserved for years.) That movie was just throughly revolting.

HHGttG. *sigh* I should have been warned by the fact that it suddenly was able to get pushed through...after Mr Adams died. I can't believe they kept setting up jokes and never telling the fricking punchlines to 'em. GAH! I went to see it with my mother (who had watched the original mini-series) and my step-father who'd never heard of it before. My mom and I were annoyed and my step-father spent the whole movie trying to figure out what was going on as nother ever got adequately explained for folks who were new to it all.

Now I do like some bad flicks. Anyone ever seen Psychomania? It's bad, the writing is wretched, the acting...painful, but on the whole I have a great time watching it. It probably helps that the first time I'd seen it was on a local Mistie-style program (The Ghoul) and every time I see it, my mind replayes the jokes and sound effects that got added in that original watching.

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"Those grenades?"
"Captain don't want 'em."
"Jayne, we're robbing the place, we're not occupying it."

IMNOTHERE

Sunday, October 8, 2006 2:48 PM

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Could I add all of Ultraviolet.

Provided you mean the recent Hollywood vampire movie, not the British TV series (miniseries by US standards) from the late 90s, which also featured (but made a point of not naming) our haemoglobin quaffing friends and was really rather good. The "Code V"s were cleverly used as a device to explore topics such as AIDS, abortion, child abuse etc.

REGINAROADIE

Sunday, October 22, 2006 9:31 PM

I havn't posted in this thread since I couldn't really think of anything that stuck out in my mind as offensive. But having just seen the first few minutes of Episode 17 of season 2 of BATTLESTAR GALACTICA, I now have a scene and a coupling that really pisses me off.

Lee Adama and Anastasia Duella.

My blood flashboiled at the image of them together in bed. Not onyl is just the idea of those two tpgether so wrong, but it's a huge spit in the face of her character, as well as the memory of Billy who died in the previous ep. Thr guy proposes to her after nearly two seasons of being together, she turns him down, he DIES saving her ass during a hostage situation, and what does she do to honor his memory. Turns around and shacks up with Adama, who he himself has a thing with Starbuck.

This coupling and the implications behind it pisses me off even more than Fred choosing Gunn over Wes.

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You would destroy the Cybermen with four Daleks?"
"We would destroy the Cybermen with ONE Dakek. You are superior in only one respect."
"What is that?"
"You are better at dying."

Trash talk between a Cyberman and a Dalek. It doesn't get any better than that.

SERYN

Sunday, October 22, 2006 10:50 PM

Well, i'll need a while to pick out a scene but for an offensive thing in the movies - Cat Womans costume (the Halle Berry one)

a singular insult to anybody who has ever even held a needle. Some one really needed to be shot for that one.

I vaguely remember some one saying some thing along the lines of it being the 'sartorial equivalent of an alchopop fueled spree in Anne Summers by a chavvy hen party'

or what ever. It was god awful.

But then i gather the film wasn't much better.

The only scene i've never been able to watch, even now, is the melting nazi scene in Raiders of the Lost Ark, when they open the ark?

It freaked me out as a kid, I was inconsolable for weeks, worse than when they made me watch Watership Down.

TRAVELER

Tuesday, October 24, 2006 6:02 AM

I felt bad for Bela Lugosi when I saw "Plan Nine from Outerspace". It was such a trashy film and Bela died before it ever got started. He would never have been apart of such terrible piece of "Go Se" if he was still alive. It is hard to believe his family allowed them to use his name in association with this awful movie. I know he made mostly B monster movies, but this one doesn't even come close. He was only in the first couple of minutes. They just used his name to sell more tickets. I can survive a bad movie but not exploitation.

Traveler

GUYWHOWANTSAFIREFLYOFHISOWN

Tuesday, October 24, 2006 6:25 AM

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Originally posted by HeWhoKicksAlot:
Two words:

STARSHIP TROOPERS

I'm hard-pressed to pick a single scene. They were all entirely offensive, either to my intelligence or my sense of creativity.

Perhaps the most offensive (or nearly so) scene involves one officer's brain being sucked out of his head by a large bug's spiky tendril. Because, sure, sucking out someone's gray matter through a straw would of course instill you with all of their intelligence and insight...
Rob O.

I enjoyed Starship Troopers.

However, I was ill for a week after seeing Starship Troopers 2 *beats himself daily for EVER signing a petition to get Starship Troopers 2 made* needles to say, I'm not at all enthused about Starship Troopers 3

What do you make of the nylon dot cardigan and plastic mule rest?

JAYNEZTOWN

Wednesday, November 23, 2022 2:49 AM

Airplane! director slams Hollywood for "destroying comedy" and says his movie couldn't be made today

https://www.ladbible.com/entertainment/david-zucker-airplane-hollywood
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Agree with Clockwork Orange btw still is one of the more shocking movies today even with our Liberal Gore and smut and Violence and Pornography in Films

the big cancel culture thing today is politics and many old Scifi Fanatsy films of Yester-Year would offend today's viewers

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, November 23, 2022 3:34 AM

You'd be hard pressed to find any media that wasn't offensive since 2012, sci-fi or otherwise.

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