Who's your favourite villain/villains from any scifi film/tv or Joss Whedon series.
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Hi there! I've just been reading some of the threads posted on this site and there lots of fave TV/Film/Ep threads but none (that i've found) for favourite villain. This is just plain unfair for the bad guys so please tell who yours are!
Mine are as follows:
1. The Operative (Serenity)
2. Agent Smith (from the Matrix series)
3. Wolfram and Hart (from Angel)
4. Spike (Buffy/Angel)
5. The Cylons (Battlestar Galactica [the new one])
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Seems to me you don't have Jubal Early on that list.
Does that seem right to you?
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interesting question.If I had to list 5 I'd say
1- any FF bad guy -who can choose ?
2. Caleb from Buffy - Nathan was one scary villan.
3.The Borg - they are just creepy
4. Any terminator - do I need to say why ?
5.David Xanatos from Gargoyles- he was such a mind trip .I'd be wary of crossing him.
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I know that many of you will groan but:
1) Darth Vader (First trilogy not the wussy prequel) was a seriously cool villain
2) the Daleks - nothing made more kids hide behind the couch than the evil pepperpots.
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And see my No. 1
Keeping in the Joss Whedon universe:
1. Niska
2. Wolfram and Hart
3. Glory
4. Angelus
5. Yosaffbridge
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Really had to think about this one. So, I made a list, and here's what I came up with.
1. Spike
2. The Guy with the Keys in E.T. (No... Really!)
3. Niska
4. Burk (Paul Riser's character in "Aliens")
5. The Company Guy in "Outlander"
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5.David Xanatos from Gargoyles- he was such a mind trip .I'd be wary of crossing him.
It's nice to see someone who remembers that. That had to be one of my favorite cartoons growing up.
1. Angelus: How can you not like this guy? He's like, pure unadulterated evil. And how can you argue with someone who clearly enjoys it so much?
2. Pennywhistle The Clown (from Stephen King's It): From a child's perspective, this guy was vile. He knew how to hit where it hurts.
3. Jubal Early: Early had this non-linear way of looking at things while still being very focused on his work. He made you think he was crazy when all the while, he knew exactly what he was doing.
4. Samara (from The Ring): An unrelenting ghost looking for a mother. Pretty frightening stuff if you ask me.
5. The Mayor/YoSaffBridge: You gotta love the cunning and slight craziness of Mrs. Reynolds. I like the Mayor for his conservative, down-home values, and his complete willingness to destroy any one in his way.
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Hi, just wanted to say that, firstly, I'm a newbie to this web-site, I just finished tinkering with my profile.
Okay, I know this sounds weird, but when I was little I always had this irrational fear of the gremlins. Just something about their reaction to water that would completely freak me out whenever I needed to go to the bathroom late at night.
In the world of Joss Whedon though, I'd say the most scary and evil villain would be the First. Complete evil that will inevitably destroy everything.
Although Willow gave it a run for its money.
Mal gives control of the ship to Zoe...
Mal: If I'm not back in an hour, you come, and you rescue me.
Zoe: What? And risk my ship?
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My favorite would have to be Jasmine from Angel Season 4. I like the way she fuzzes up the boundary between good and evil.
"Haha, mine is an evil laugh."
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My favourite villain was Donald Lydecker from Dark Angel.
And I loved Zod and Ursa from Superman 2 (being released Nov. 28th with a new Richard Donner cut- I am SO there!)
And of course, The Operative.
My short list Chrisisall
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The skeksis from The Dark Crystal.
Do not fear me. Ours is a peaceful race, and we must live in harmony.
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Patience, meanest old woman that every rode into a valley. This lady has no code not about business just once to rip you off and has survived doin it by being good hell she owns half of whitefall. Badger can't stand Mal but finds him useful, Fanty and Mingo want reliability, and Niska has a ruthless code abide by it your ok, but Patience thanks for bringin the goods bang your dead I'll keep the change too.
Thats why your on that rusty old boat and I'm running this moon.
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Reavers: You never saw them until Serenity. But in Firefly they were so evil that it makes Jayne afraid. They are the best villains ever!
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Darth Vader will always be the ultimate unsympathetic villain. Part of the reason that Ep.I-III didn’t work as well as Ep.IV-VI is because it was so difficult to have any sympathy for Dark Vader.
Although not a movie or television series, I always thought the Mule from Asimov’s Foundation stories was also a magnificent villain.
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This is my top...
1) The Operative (Serenity)
2) Aliens (Alien Movies)
3) The Cybermen (Doctor Who)
4) The Emperor (Star Wars)
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Ming from Mongo. He was evil and insane. His ego was so big he had to conquer the universe so he could have room for it. Niska reminds me of Ming. Both thought they were the toughest villains in the verse.
Ming-"I control absolutely the movement of this planet."
Niska-"Now you know my reputation."
They would make a great team. Eventually one would kill the other. But just wondering which one would get away with it is interesting.
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1. The Master (Doctor Who--he just enjoyed it so much!
2. Magneto (X-Men)--you couldn't help but sympathise with him.
3. Michael Meyers--He scared the bejesus out of me!
4. Reavers--need I say more?
5. George A. Romero's zombies
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Hi, just wanted to say that, firstly, I'm a newbie to this web-site, I just finished tinkering with my profile.
Welcome to the site, BITBPS (long abbreviation
)! Has FollowMal found you and gotten you your very own virtual Browncoat yet? Well, don't worry, she'll get around to it.Now, to my top five villans...
1)Reavers - Joss Whedon creates fear without the viewer ever getting a clear view of them (which adds to the creepy mystique). Sometimes it's just best to let the imaginations of the audience decide what a Reaver looks like to them.
2)Niska - He treated his own nephew like a slab of meat? Don't want to cross him any time soon.
3)Jubal Early - Bone-chilling scene with Kaylee made me dislike him, despite his eccentricities.
4)Blue Hands - I'd rather not bleed to death through my cuticles, thank you very much.
5)Willow (when she was evil, of course) - That episode is one of the few good ones, in my opinion. It made sense, and... she did that freaky thing where she sucked the information right out of the books. Score!
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I'll just stick to the Firefly universe, because otherwise there are just too many villains too varied to choose from. And because that's not too much of a restriction... the question makes me realize, one of the great things about Firefly is the villains. There are several really, really good ones.
(Looks like there are several different interpretations of the question. Most villainous villains, or the ones we like watching in action best? Sheer villainy isn't all that interesting on its own: the Blue Hands are bad, but not as entertaining as my favorites:)
Top of my list is Yosaffbridge. She's not the evillest, or scariest, or most competent, but she's interesting. Partly because she's such a question mark; you don't know what to believe about her. Was she really married to Durran? Really in love with him? Who knows? We may never. Anyway, I'm always a sucker for con man (or woman) stories. Anyone else here who really enjoyed the movie "Dirty Rotten Scoundrels"?
Right up near the top is the Operative. Sheer genius, to have a monster who knows he's a monster, whose stated purpose is to bring about a utopia in which he has no place. And then to show him that his "utopia" is as monstrous as he is... brilliant. And he's such a polite guy, too.
Niska: well, he could have been just your basic sadist, but casting him with someone who looks like a retired bank clerk makes him special. Jubal Early... I have a hard time watching "Objects in Space", he's so creepy... but he's worth gritting your teeth and watching. (Anyway, it gets so much more fun once the disembodied River starts talking, and, hey, bass clarinet solos!)
And I can't believe no one's mentioned nine other Firefly villains I just thought of myself: Mal, Zoe, Wash, River, Simon, Book, Kaylee, Jayne, and Inara. They steal, they kill, they're bad guys. But we like them. (I thought of letting Inara off this particular hook, but she did participate in stealing the Lassiter. And Book, okay, maybe not a bad guy any more...)
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Oh, guys, come on!!! The Cigarette Smoking Man (C.G.B. Spender) from The X-Files???
I can't believe no one picked him! He's manipulative and Evil with a capital E! He tried to murder both of his sons (Mulder and Jeffrey Spender) and he snatched Scully on 2 separate occasions. He's one bad daddy.
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1. The Operative (Serenity)
2. Raas Alguul (Batman Begins)
3. Tyler Durden (Fight Club)*marginaly scifi
4. The Cylons (new Battlestar Gallactica)
5. Captain Needa this guy had balls!(Empire Strikes Back)
6. Mecha Godzilla (The Terror of Mecha Godzila)
7. Vice Principal Thorn (Teen Wolf)
8. Turlogh (Doctor Who)
9. Diane (V)
10. Rutger Hauer-bot (Blade Runner)
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Reavers: You never saw them until Serenity. But in Firefly they were so evil that it makes Jayne afraid. They are the best villains ever!
How could I forget the reavers! Holy crap, you are so right!
All we are, is dust in the wind...dude.
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Originally posted by BionicBatman:
Reavers: You never saw them until Serenity. But in Firefly they were so evil that it makes Jayne afraid. They are the best villains ever!
How could I forget the reavers! Holy crap, you are so right!
All we are, is dust in the wind...dude.
How could you forget Reavers? You are on a Firefly forum. lol
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Thought I'd already done this thread, but that was another forum. Copy'n'pasting:
Naraku, from InuYasha. What makes Naraku truly horrifying for me is his intellect. Yeah, he's a shapeshifter and a demonic cannibal who can extrude parts of himself to become slaves to do his bidding, but his real power is his ability to read people. Naraku knows exactly what buttons to push, and exactly what to say to get people to do whatever he wants them to. Everyone around him is simply a pawn in his game for absolute power. And he's not just a genius either; he's beautifully twisted --a sadistic monster who singles out the ones he can hurt the most, and knows the very best way to twist the knife. It's all part of his plan, as he believes the negative emotions are more powerful than the positive, and the more rage and hatred and despair the Shikon jewel soaks up, the more powerful it will become (and, by extension, the more powerful it will make him when he finally consumes it). He's intentionally causing as much pain and misery as he can around the jewel (and, by association, the show's heroes). And he doesn't make mistakes. If it ever seems like he's making a mistake, like things are turning against him, it's only because that's what he wants it to look like. Other villains might fake their deaths to gain the element of surprise --Naraku actually died, knowing exactly what everyone around him would do. The events of Castle Beyond the Looking Glass were flawlessly orchestrated. The outcome --and Naraku's resurrection-- completely inevitable, given the personalities and natures of all involved. Even in defeat, Naraku won.
Kagura, from InuYasha. She's one of Naraku's spawn, but will stop at nothing to escape him (his death is secondary, what she really wants is Freedom). Like Naraku (having, like Sin from Milton's Satan, inherited the best qualities of her creator), she is an expert "player," and everything and everyone around her is nothing more than a tool. A means to an end, to be used and discarded. She makes alliances, keeps secrets, plots betrayals. . . She is a wind demon, and --like the wind-- she refuses to be tamed. Yet she has no choice, because Naraku knows her as well as he knows himself. Her every betrayal, every secret, every thought is orchestrated. Controlled. She can conceive of nothing except what Naraku wishes, and he's given her just enough lead to realize this (thus causing her no end of anguish and driving her to ever greater heights of treachery as she tries to outsmart him). Naraku hasn't just robbed her of her freedom, but of free will itself. She's not so much a villain, but less even than a victim, with no hope other than to turn her rage and pain outwards --a living weapon in Naraku's control.
Sesshoumaru, from InuYasha. My favourite demon. His name means "perfection in killing," and he lives up to it. No enemy can stand against him, and he routinely slaughters entire armies just to practice a new weapon or technique (or if they just happen to be in his way when he's out for a walk). Not just a demon, but a demon Prince (son of the greatest Demon King --Inu no Taisho), Sesshoumaru is as high above other demons as they are above humans --he regards humans as insects. Barely worth his attention (as I said, not even worth the effort to go around them instead of through them), though, on occassion, entertaining. What gets me about Sesshoumaru is how reasonable he is. He almost never loses his temper, remaining calm and alert at all times. His grudge with InuYasha isn't a matter of being Evil, but (in his mind) a simple matter of law --he (the older brother) wanted InuYasha's sword, and InuYasha (the younger and illegitimate brother) refused. He said no to a Prince. This alone is an offense punishable by death. Of course, the other issues that Sesshoumaru has with InuYasha (blaming him for Father's death, an inferiority complex, simple personal animosity) are all bubbling so far under the surfa
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1.Faith
2.Angelus
3.Drusilla
4.the Operative
5.Wolfram and Hart
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I agree with what you say about the Reavers. Imagination makes them that much scarier. That's why I picked Michael Meyers-- I thought the original Halloween was so scary, because you barely saw him until the end. (I saw it at just way too young of an age!)
Simon: "Were there any Feds?"
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Originally posted by Cybersnark:
Thought I'd already done this thread, but that was another forum. Copy'n'pasting:
Naraku, from InuYasha. What makes Naraku truly horrifying for me is his intellect. Yeah, he's a shapeshifter and a demonic cannibal who can extrude parts of himself to become slaves to do his bidding, but his real power is his ability to read people. Naraku knows exactly what buttons to push, and exactly what to say to get people to do whatever he wants them to. Everyone around him is simply a pawn in his game for absolute power. And he's not just a genius either; he's beautifully twisted --a sadistic monster who singles out the ones he can hurt the most, and knows the very best way to twist the knife. It's all part of his plan, as he believes the negative emotions are more powerful than the positive, and the more rage and hatred and despair the Shikon jewel soaks up, the more powerful it will become (and, by extension, the more powerful it will make him when he finally consumes it). He's intentionally causing as much pain and misery as he can around the jewel (and, by association, the show's heroes). And he doesn't make mistakes. If it ever seems like he's making a mistake, like things are turning against him, it's only because that's what he wants it to look like. Other villains might fake their deaths to gain the element of surprise --Naraku actually died, knowing exactly what everyone around him would do. The events of Castle Beyond the Looking Glass were flawlessly orchestrated. The outcome --and Naraku's resurrection-- completely inevitable, given the personalities and natures of all involved. Even in defeat, Naraku won.
Kagura, from InuYasha. She's one of Naraku's spawn, but will stop at nothing to escape him (his death is secondary, what she really wants is Freedom). Like Naraku (having, like Sin from Milton's Satan, inherited the best qualities of her creator), she is an expert "player," and everything and everyone around her is nothing more than a tool. A means to an end, to be used and discarded. She makes alliances, keeps secrets, plots betrayals. . . She is a wind demon, and --like the wind-- she refuses to be tamed. Yet she has no choice, because Naraku knows her as well as he knows himself. Her every betrayal, every secret, every thought is orchestrated. Controlled. She can conceive of nothing except what Naraku wishes, and he's given her just enough lead to realize this (thus causing her no end of anguish and driving her to ever greater heights of treachery as she tries to outsmart him). Naraku hasn't just robbed her of her freedom, but of free will itself. She's not so much a villain, but less even than a victim, with no hope other than to turn her rage and pain outwards --a living weapon in Naraku's control.
Sesshoumaru, from InuYasha. My favourite demon. His name means "perfection in killing," and he lives up to it. No enemy can stand against him, and he routinely slaughters entire armies just to practice a new weapon or technique (or if they just happen to be in his way when he's out for a walk). Not just a demon, but a demon Prince (son of the greatest Demon King --Inu no Taisho), Sesshoumaru is as high above other demons as they are above humans --he regards humans as insects. Barely worth his attention (as I said, not even worth the effort to go around them instead of through them), though, on occassion, entertaining. What gets me about Sesshoumaru is how reasonable he is. He almost never loses his temper, remaining calm and alert at all times. His grudge with InuYasha isn't a matter of being Evil, but (in his mind) a simple matter of law --he (the older brother) wanted InuYasha's sword, and InuYasha (the younger and illegitimate brother) refused. He said no to a Prince. This alone is an offense punishable by death. Of course, the other issues that Sesshoumaru has with InuYasha (blaming him for Father's death, an inferiority complex, simple personal animosNOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
If I can pitch in:
Can I pick George Lucas??
Otherwise:
Caleb, Spike, Angelus and the Mayor from BTVS/Angel.
Definitely Niska from FF.
The Aliens from movies of same name.
Daleks for a classic baddie.
Rutger Hauer in Blade Runner is a cool baddie. Love his 'Tears in the rain' speech.
Human Cylons from new BSG. Really like the whole religious 'One God' line they take.
Pennywhistle. Yes someone else remembers him. Clowns are just darn creepy and should be shot on sight.
Tess from Roswell. I was watching several shows at the time where my favourite characters turned out to be baddies in one form or another and Tess was my fave on this show. When I realised she had killed Alex I couldn't believe it. But her cuteness made me forgive her.
I would have had Vader as well but not since his 'NOOOOO!!!' outburst at the end of Ep3.
The Terminator was good but I like my baddies with personality so he don't make the list either.
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From Firefly: The Operative, the Alliance in general, Niska, and the Reavers
From Buffy/Angel: Spike, Angelus, The First, Caleb, Wolfram and Hart
From Doctor Who: my favorite is the Master, but you've gotta love the Daleks.
From BSG: the Cylons
Stargate/Antlantis: Ba'al is my favorite SG-1 villian, although the Ori definitely make interesting enemies, for Atlantis it's definitely the Wraith.
Star Wars: Not even touching the prequels (unless I can call George Lucas a villian for making them?) From the movies: Darth Vader. From the books: The Yuzum Vong, fanatical creatures with almost unbeatable technology on a holy crusade to conquer the galaxy. Definitely not people I'd like to find out were heading toward my planet.
Wash: This landing is gonna get pretty interesting
Mal: Define "interesting".
Wash: Oh God, of God, we're all going to die?
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Quote:Nitpick: Yuuzhan Vong.
Originally posted by Dreamwalker:
Yuzum Vong,
The Yuzzem are tall furry creatures from Endor, seen in the old Ewoks cartoon. The image of these long-legged puffball creatures trying to take over the galaxy is. . . kinda funny, actually.
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1. Baltar/Number 6 from the new Battlestar Galactica
2. The Hands of Blue (Evil & very creepy)
3. Big Brother (From the George Orwell novel 1984 - read it when I was on holiday over summer amazing book)
4. Spike
5. Angelus
A friend of mine also finds the character of ET very scary for some reason. He first saw it when he was 5 and has only just started to get over it now... he's 20
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a - Krank from CITY OF THE LOST CHILDREN
b - The Operative
c - Jubal Early
d - Dfens from FALLING DOWN (I love the idea of the bad guy not realising he is the bad guy)
e - Zark from TRON
f - The Devil from BRIMSTONE
h - Rain from BIG TROUBLE IN LITTLE CHINA
i - Beloq from RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK
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My pick for favorite villain is one that I'm fairly sure nobody has ever heard of.
01 Boxer, from Charlie Jade.
That's right, his name is zero-one (pronounced oh-won), and in the beginning, he was protrayed as a heartless, debauched sociopath. In fact, they go to great lengths in the beginning of the series to show that 01 is just friggin' nuts. But then, the character begins to change, and the layers of his madness and depravity are slowly peeled back, until you are left with just the innermost core of his soul, a sad, frightened man, desparate to do what is right, knowing that he's sacrificing his sanity in order to do it. He's the villain who's singular goal was to save the world, if that shows you how well he was put together by the writers. I found myself rooting for him long before the end of the series, where he and the actual protagonist go down, together, in a blaze of glory to prevent the destruction of three universes.
That, and I still remember the catchy little theme that they played every time he strutted onto the screen. Although, the platform hooker-boots have been burned into my memory, too...
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What about the freaky anime-hair?
And yes, I saw all of Charlie Jade and loved it. Boxer was awesome. There's so little good "conspiracy" fiction on TV (as opposed to "mystery" and "police procedural" fiction, which we're drowning in). Heard rumours that there was to be a second season, but nothing recently.
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Originally posted by Cybersnark:Quote:Nitpick: Yuuzhan Vong.
Originally posted by Dreamwalker:
Yuzum Vong,
The Yuzzem are tall furry creatures from Endor, seen in the old Ewoks cartoon. The image of these long-legged puffball creatures trying to take over the galaxy is. . . kinda funny, actually.
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We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.
When fuzzballs attack?
Dreamwalker who once again tells herself posting and spelling at 1 am isn't the best idea in the 'verse
Wash: This landing is gonna get pretty interesting
Mal: Define "interesting".
Wash: Oh God, of God, we're all going to die?
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1: Benjamin Lynus (AKA Henry Gale) From LOST
2: Sideshow Bob!
3: Jubal Early (from Firefly in case you where wondering)
4: That Giant Cloud thing From The Fifth Element
5: THE SARLAC PIT!!!! OOOMMMGGG scary stuff right there
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Well, in no particular order: The Reavers, Niska, The Wraith (from Stargate Atlantis), The Gou'ld (from SG1, even though they're almost totally defeated now), The Replicators (also from SG1), Scorpius, I think that's his name... (from Farscape), and The Obin, they don't have souls (from John Scalzi's books, Old Man's War and The Ghost Brigades)
Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally.
So the moral is...be paranoid.
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My all-time favorite villain is Suitenguu from Speed Grapher (anime).
After him, I can't really say. I did love Spike from Buffy and the "two-by-two, hands-of-blue" guys from Firefly. We never knew much about the blue-handed guys, but they sure were creepy.
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Here are some of my favorites:
Firefly - Reavers are the scariest and creepiest, The Operative - cause he was a "true believer" almost as scary as a Reaver; Hands of Blue guys - big yuch!
BtVS - Dark Willow, The First, The Master, Glory, Spike and, of course, our captain as Caleb the evil preacher
Angel - Angelus, Jasmine (Gina), The little girl in the white room
Harry Potter - Lord Voldemort and Lucius Malfoy
Dune - Baron Harkonnen; Feyd-Rautha Harkonnen
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