One stupid thing about Angel Season 5 (spoilers)-OR- one, two, three, four; I declare a flame war!

POSTED BY: chrisisall
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CHRISISALL

Tuesday, December 12, 2006 5:11 PM

Fred's soul was DESTROYED??
WTF?!?!?
DESTROYED??? What a lame-ass way the drag tears out of an unsuspecting audience!!!
And how exactly do you do such a thing???
Don't you think something like that is a red flag for GOD??? Like he would allow that power in any of his creations?
And for non-believers, how does that fit in with the law of the conservation of energy???

It don't make no kind of sense, and it was STUPID!!!!

Flame ON Chrisisall

HOTPOINT

Tuesday, December 12, 2006 5:27 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Fred's soul was DESTROYED??
WTF?!?!?
DESTROYED??? What a lame-ass way the drag tears out of an unsuspecting audience!!!
And how exactly do you do such a thing???
Don't you think something like that is a red flag for GOD??? Like he would allow that power in any of his creations?
And for non-believers, how does that fit in with the law of the conservation of energy???

It don't make no kind of sense, and it was STUPID!!!!

Okay so you're assuming that there is only one God, and they are all-powerful, whereas it's Buffyverse canon that there are in fact several Gods, and they aren't (eg. Glory, Osiris, Hecate, Illyria herself was supposedly God to a God!)

The Buffyverse isn't monotheistic, for all we know Jehovah is merely one of the Powers-That-Be. Maybe he just doesn't have the power to stop the Blue Meanie.

As for conservation of energy that doesn't really apply as the destruction of Fred's Soul could have merely been its complete conversion into energy (like say a matter/antimatter explosion) rather than its complete erasure from existance.

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CHRISISALL

Tuesday, December 12, 2006 5:39 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Hotpoint:

Okay so you're assuming that there is only one God

I don't assume ANYTHING, you self-righteous IDIOT!!! (...remember, Flame War here, we gotta be all mean and full of the ad-hominem and such)

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As for conservation of energy that doesn't really apply as the destruction of Fred's Soul could have merely been its complete conversion into energy (like say a matter/antimatter explosion) rather than its complete erasure from existance.

Well, thank you Mr. Wizard, that just answers ALL my questions concerning the scientific plausability of destroying a soul!!

It was just writers bending THEIR OWN RULES to make us all weepy, and you don't see it because you're Joss' BITCH!!!!

Chrisisall (doing the angry-fan thing to the hilt

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GROOSALUGG

Tuesday, December 12, 2006 5:59 PM

I'm too lazy to do the 'angry' thing, but...

I don't necessarily buy it that her soul was destroyed. The source for that info was the weirdo doctor, and Angel & co. never bothered investigating it further to see if he was correct (brilliant, guys ). Now, if that revelation had come from Knox, who was the big cheese in that whole deal (the Qwa'ha Xahn), I would've believed he knew what he was talking about, but the doc was just way too much of a tool to trust that he knew the real deal on the whole thing.

Also, when it comes to a show like Buffy or Angel, with all kinds of magickal and mystical elements, even if her soul had been destroyed, the writers can always think up some way of un-doing that and getting it back. From what I heard, in S6 it was planned that Fred would be brought back somehow, and Amy would then play dual roles, as both Fred and Illyria.

For whatever that's worth...

HOTPOINT

Tuesday, December 12, 2006 6:03 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
I don't assume ANYTHING, you self-righteous IDIOT!!! (...remember, Flame War here, we gotta be all mean and full of the ad-hominem and such)

I leave such tactics to inferior beings

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Well, thank you Mr. Wizard, that just answers ALL my questions concerning the scientific plausability of destroying a soul!!

Since it was never established what a soul was made of who's to say?

In any case if your hypothetical "God" is all powerful then they must themselves have the power to destroy a soul which means that a soul must be capable of being destroyed

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
It was just writers bending THEIR OWN RULES to make us all weepy, and you don't see it because you're Joss' BITCH!!!!

You want to get some flamey reaction? Watch and learn junior...

Joss Whedon was a wimp, I'd have had the last Season of Buffy and/or Angel with the Scoobs and/or the Fang Gang fighting to stop the HellGod Jehovah from initiating the story from Revelations.

For that matter when are we going to see Jehovah as a Minor Goa'uld System Lord in SG1? Sci-Fi scriptwriters are such wusses

Okay so that should stir up some response

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CHRISISALL

Tuesday, December 12, 2006 7:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Groosalugg:

Angel & co. never bothered investigating it further to see if he was correct (brilliant, guys ).

Piss on our heroes, why don't ya??? Like you would have Sherlock Holmesed it better.
Why do you hate Angel?

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From what I heard, in S6 it was planned that Fred would be brought back somehow, and Amy would then play dual roles, as both Fred and Illyria.

And gotten twice the sallary too, I'll bet! So who was Amy sleeping with to get THAT gig?
Sell your story to the Enquirer, you lazy gossipy weasle!!!!

Chrisisall

SERENITYINSCOTLAND

Tuesday, December 12, 2006 7:11 PM

The whole 'soul destroyed' point was worth it for Alexis to deliver that wrenching line 'Nothing is alright!'.

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, December 12, 2006 7:15 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Hotpoint:

I leave such tactics to inferior beings

I'm rubber, you're glue....

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In any case if your hypothetical "God" is all powerful then they must themselves have the power to destroy a soul which means that a soul must be capable of being destroyed

But NOT by magic or anything less than God HIMself (see, God is a DUDE!!!)

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Joss Whedon was a wimp, I'd have had the last Season of Buffy and/or Angel with the Scoobs and/or the Fang Gang fighting to stop the HellGod Jehovah from initiating the story from Revelations.

You freakin' BLASPHEMER!
I may not be Joss' bitch, but I do respect the man! You go to a special Hell for that one, my friend!
(Oh, and that Revelations crack won't get you any favours from the Big Guy, either.)

Angry, verbose and brimming with, er, brimstone Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, December 12, 2006 7:29 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SerenityinScotland:
The whole 'soul destroyed' point was worth it for Alexis to deliver that wrenching line 'Nothing is alright!'.

*gently pokes SerenityinScotland* (dude, you need some ad-hominem attacks with that, I'll help ya out...)

The whole 'soul destroyed' point was worth it for Alexis to deliver that wrenching line 'Nothing is alright!', you'd see that if you weren't such a douchebag, Chrisisall!!!!!

Listen, Highlander, there can be only one POV that's worthwhile here, and it sure ain't YOURS!!!!!!

Frothing at the mouth Chrisisall

COSMICFUGITIVE

Tuesday, December 12, 2006 7:46 PM

(In the spirit of flaming.)

I think you guys have totally missed the point. *Sigh* The only stupid thing about Angel season five is that it was the FINAL season! Come on! That is the only thing that never made sense, and was truly STUPID. Why God, Why?!

If anyone disagrees, they need their head checked. Nuff said.

Oh.. Just to add.. If anyone DARES to mention the Angel puppet as one stupid thing about season 5, I will come around to your house with a very large stick.

(I feel so much better now.. Seriously, excellent thread Chris.)

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CHRISISALL

Tuesday, December 12, 2006 8:38 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by CosmicFugitive:

Oh.. Just to add.. If anyone DARES to mention the Angel puppet as one stupid thing about season 5, I will come around to your house with a very large stick.

I'm down with Angel as a puppet, but that nose-coming-off thing was TOO MUCH!!! WTF were they thinking??? OH, HA HA- stuff it, pal! If I want yucks, I'll watch Beanie and Cecil, Mutant Enemy needs to get bitch-slapped for that one!!!

Chrisisall, stick proofing his house

DIETCOKE

Tuesday, December 12, 2006 9:04 PM

Not stupid at all. It works. See Serenity's Wash. Kill a beloved character, and it makes you cry. It's about emotion and feeling. Not just the good ones.

Season Five was my favorite season. Made me cry but oh, did it make me laugh! :-)

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DIETCOKE

Tuesday, December 12, 2006 9:10 PM

Chrisisall, what is the matter? This doesn't seem like you at all? What's going on?

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DIETCOKE

Tuesday, December 12, 2006 9:14 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by CosmicFugitive:
(In the spirit of flaming.)

I think you guys have totally missed the point. *Sigh* The only stupid thing about Angel season five is that it was the FINAL season! Come on! That is the only thing that never made sense, and was truly STUPID. Why God, Why?!

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I'm with you. The only sin of season five is that they had to wrap it up and not give us a season six.

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CHRISISALL

Tuesday, December 12, 2006 9:23 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by dietcoke:
Chrisisall, what is the matter? This doesn't seem like you at all? What's going on?

*psssst, this is supposed to be a flame war, all, you know, flamey and angry. I wanna show the RWED we are capable of the same kind of vitriol seen there on a daily basis...*

What do you mean 'What's the matter?' Are you avoiding the argument?? Stupid biped! You obviously have no ideas worth posting!!!
AND AMY LOOKED STUPID BLUE!!!

I am, uh, EVIL now..a little, Chrisisall

DIETCOKE

Wednesday, December 13, 2006 2:35 AM

You have gone to the dark side. Buffy's gonna get you..... ;-)

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DIETCOKE

Wednesday, December 13, 2006 2:45 AM

Hotpoint said: Joss Whedon was a wimp, I'd have had the last Season of Buffy and/or Angel with the Scoobs and/or the Fang Gang fighting to stop the HellGod Jehovah from initiating the story from Revelations.

For that matter when are we going to see Jehovah as a Minor Goa'uld System Lord in SG1? Sci-Fi scriptwriters are such wusses :disappointed.

Dietcoke, who still can't figure out how to do quotes, said: The powers that be are so going to get you for that one. Special hell. Fire and brimstone for you, baby. Hotpoint. That should be an appropriate name for where you are going. ;-) For the record, I think blue was a good color on her.

***Throws someone ramdomly out the window and starts the bar fight.***

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CHRISISALL

Wednesday, December 13, 2006 3:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by dietcoke:

***Throws someone ramdomly out the window and starts the bar fight.***

as Roy Batty said:

THAT'S THE SPIRIT!!!!!

Chrisisall

MRBLUESUN

Wednesday, December 13, 2006 8:45 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Hotpoint:
Okay so you're assuming that there is only one God, and they are all-powerful, whereas it's Buffyverse canon that there are in fact several Gods, and they aren't (eg. Glory, Osiris, Hecate, Illyria herself was supposedly God to a God!)

The Buffyverse isn't monotheistic, for all we know Jehovah is merely one of the Powers-That-Be. Maybe he just doesn't have the power to stop the Blue Meanie.

The traditional concept of God simply could not be one of the PTB because quite frankly they are far too much like accountants or bank managers for them to actually function as the Judeo-Christian God. Don't ask me to explain they just are.
Also, Fred's soul couldn't have been completely destroyed because if it was how do you explain Illyria slowly developing more Fred like qualities towards the end of season five, such as her love for Wesley and greif following his death. As far as i'm aware evil old one demon thingies don't feel grief at the loss of mortals, but hell i'm no expert.

'If nothing we do matters, then all that matters is what we do'

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MRBLUESUN

Wednesday, December 13, 2006 8:46 PM

sorry first time i've used the quote thing and i kinda did it wrong. OOPS

MAVOURNEEN

Wednesday, December 13, 2006 8:50 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
as Roy Batty said:

THAT'S THE SPIRIT!!!!!

Might I say, Chris...EXCELLENT Bladerunner reference. Excellent.

HOTPOINT

Wednesday, December 13, 2006 9:14 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MrBlueSun:
The traditional concept of God simply could not be one of the PTB because quite frankly they are far too much like accountants or bank managers for them to actually function as the Judeo-Christian God. Don't ask me to explain they just are.

Okay so I'll take that on faith shall I

Quote:
Originally posted by MrBlueSun:

Also, Fred's soul couldn't have been completely destroyed because if it was how do you explain Illyria slowly developing more Fred like qualities towards the end of season five, such as her love for Wesley and greif following his death. As far as i'm aware evil old one demon thingies don't feel grief at the loss of mortals, but hell i'm no expert.

It's already established Buffyverse canon that you don't necessarily need a soul to feel emotion, even love. Spike for example demonstrated romantic love for both Drusilla and Buffy and still loved his mother after being turned despite the lack of a soul.

Illyria's move towards a more human personality could just be Fred's memories rather than a remnant of her soul.

Anyhow the God-King of the Smurfs wasn't evil so much as seriously megalomaniacal

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With cries of “Death or Glory” comes the mighty Twenty-First

HELL'S KITTEN

Thursday, December 14, 2006 12:44 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Fred's soul was DESTROYED??
WTF?!?!?
DESTROYED??? What a lame-ass way the drag tears out of an unsuspecting audience!!!
And how exactly do you do such a thing???
Don't you think something like that is a red flag for GOD??? Like he would allow that power in any of his creations?
And for non-believers, how does that fit in with the law of the conservation of energy???

It don't make no kind of sense, and it was STUPID!!!!

ZOMG!!!1!
Ur so LAME! lol of course it was destroyed LOL.
Fred was such a dumb caracter i bet they just wanted to get rid of her any way possible. sould estroying insures she cant come back LOL thank god. i was sick of her NEway. ur a lame-o sissy if u cried, btw.

as for conservation of energy, whered you come up with that crap?!? LOL!!1! ur gonna have to break eggs to make a omlet, that means u dont have eggs no more. so that soul destroying thing totally works.

maybe u should think more b4 u type, loser
LOL
an if u can do better, where's ur show??? LOL!!

Flame retard Hell's Kittenisall
I mean... flame retardant!
(how was that?)

CHRISISALL

Thursday, December 14, 2006 1:02 AM

Yeah, I cried, Kitten, you wanna make something out of it? What do YOU cry for, poor goslings getting juggled??
Pathetic pompous pimple popper!
And omlets ARE eggs in a different form, SPOCK!
Go pimp your psuedo-science at a Trek Con, and post no more of your scurrilous rubbish here, if you please. Or even if you don't.
(Was that over the top? Sometimes the seething quality gets lost in the grandiosity of the ad-hominem...)

Still Evil, a little...Chrisisall

YINYANG

Thursday, December 14, 2006 1:09 AM

You know what I think was the stupidest part of Angel's Season 5? That there even was a season five at all! Joss should have used his time to create meaningful, quality works (like, spent more time with Firefly and Buffy, duh), because Angel was just a cheap spin-off.

(Hey, this is actually kind of fun. No, I haven't watched Angel - at all - so my fake opinion is in place of my nonexistant opinion. Wait... did I just type that? Please ignore.)

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CHRISISALL

Thursday, December 14, 2006 1:19 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by yinyang:
You know what I think was the stupidest part of Angel's Season 5? That there even was a season five at all!

YOU'RE RIGHT!!!
They should have just started "Spike". That's all we wanted anyway! Who gives a frak about the table lamp???? Nancy-boy dillweed.

Never the hair Chrisisall

YINYANG

Thursday, December 14, 2006 1:24 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by yinyang:
You know what I think was the stupidest part of Angel's Season 5? That there even was a season five at all!
YOU'RE RIGHT!!!
They should have just started "Spike". That's all we wanted anyway! Who gives a frak about the table lamp???? Nancy-boy dillweed.

I would completely and totally agree with you... except that it's you, and everything you say could not be further from the truth. Why don't you just go back and crawl in the pile of gos se you call a home? God, I just hate you, blasphemer!

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CHRISISALL

Thursday, December 14, 2006 1:38 AM

Go watch Charmed, Niska-girl!
I fart in your general direction.

Beware the Chrisisall

YINYANG

Thursday, December 14, 2006 1:46 AM

Sure, I'll watch some Charmed. But, can I borrow your DVD's? I'm afraid I'm not stupid enough to have even considered buying those luh-suh things.

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CHRISISALL

Thursday, December 14, 2006 1:59 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by yinyang:
Sure, I'll watch some Charmed. But, can I borrow your DVD's?

Very clever. Got a book of come-backs near the monitor?
I have to catch some Z's now, or I'd give you a virtual ass-whooping, you Badger-hat-wearin' fool!!!

The Evil inside Chrisisall

YINYANG

Thursday, December 14, 2006 2:14 AM

Okay, Grandpa, go nighty-night, then. And, don't trip up the stairs and break your hip (that is, of course, assuming you can still walk)!

And, I happen to think my hat is very cunning, so back off, Alliance scum!

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CHRISISALL

Thursday, December 14, 2006 2:22 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by yinyang:
Okay, Grandpa, go nighty-night, then.

Good night little girl, make sure that nightlite is so the scary shadows go away...:)

"I never married..." Chrisisall

YINYANG

Thursday, December 14, 2006 2:24 AM

Oh, and before I forget - make sure to turn your oxygen on. I would hate it if you died before I had the chance to really nail you.

Hippies. You're all the same. I bite my thumb at you.

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HELL'S KITTEN

Thursday, December 14, 2006 2:34 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Yeah, I cried, Kitten, you wanna make something out of it? What do YOU cry for, poor goslings getting juggled??
Pathetic pompous pimple popper!
And omlets ARE eggs in a different form, SPOCK!
Go pimp your psuedo-science at a Trek Con, and post no more of your scurrilous rubbish here, if you please. Or even if you don't.
(Was that over the top? Sometimes the seething quality gets lost in the grandiosity of the ad-hominem...

a hominem a hummina i don't know but that isnt a real word even LOL!!! where did you go to school?? learn english, moron!!!

if omlets were eggs theyd be called eggs and not omlets. i cant believe ur so stupid!!1! how you manage to even type is beyond me. N E ways, my whole point, you blind freak, was that even if u have a omlet thats from eggs, u have no eggs, only omlet and ur never gonna have eggs again. duh, lol1!!

and since ur so freakin dumb, i'll type slow so u can understand this: ilyria / malaria / whatever her name was had to break freds soul egg to make the ilyria god omlet. man ur so lame!1! u think u can put teh omlet back into the shell after its fried??? LOL

ALSO, assmunch, star trek is for losers like u not me!1!! go play with ur spok ears.

but oh yeah, thats right, i see u had to "go to sleep" but i kno ur just running away cuz u started something u cant finish. i dont care NEway cuz im bored with this now and im not coming back. also? ur so mean i think im leaving this site completely cuz i dont need trolls like u constantly harrassing me!! TROLL!!1!! u shouldnt be so stupd and mean to ppl especially since u dont know me.

--drama is stoopid like Crississall Hell's KittenIsAll

CHRISISALL

Thursday, December 14, 2006 2:34 AM

I'm sorry, on the way to the tank I stepped on your dolly....oh, don't cry...she's okay, honest!

Ageist evil Chrisisall

YINYANG

Thursday, December 14, 2006 2:39 AM

What, too afraid to admit that the dolly was yours? You may fool most of these twerps, but I'll always know how immature and foolish you really are. It's no wonder you don't have any friends.

And, Hell's Kitten, learn how to spell, you ignorant hick.

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CHRISISALL

Thursday, December 14, 2006 2:43 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:

and since ur so freakin dumb, i'll type slow so u can understand this: ilyria / malaria / whatever her name was had to break freds soul egg to make the ilyria god omlet.

WTF are you on about, H's K? Are you high? Gods don't eat! You really are the fool most trolls under the bridges paint you as. And typing slow only developes carpal tunnel, not better understanding, you Manimal-watcher!

Please, hang out with YingYams here while I dream of a world without the torture of y'all existing!

Exit, stage right Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Thursday, December 14, 2006 2:47 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by yinyang:
What, too afraid to admit that the dolly was yours?

At least I loved once, if not well.
BTW, been dating TheRightStuff? I hear you're his biggest fan! You two were made for eachother. He will not Forsake you.

Heh heh Chrisisall

YINYANG

Thursday, December 14, 2006 2:47 AM

I refuse to waste words on you, turd, so I'll keep this short: TURD!

Look at me! My signature never changes, unlike pansy "theatre" boy, yinyangISN'Tall

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HELL'S KITTEN

Thursday, December 14, 2006 2:49 AM

\/\/hatEver!
so what if i dont spell everything perfectly? who cares? god, ur as lame as ChrisIsTooMuch. r u 2 like boyfriend-girlfriend or something? go find ur own room u guys! lol!!1 maybe u have time to waste spelling everything right all teh time, but im in a hurry cuz i have a life unliek u~!! LOL~!!

besides, ur so off topic now its sickening. go post ur BS over in troll country and leave me alone!! u an chrisisnothing should be happy together there with ur fellow trolls! lol!!

also, dumbass, i said i wasnt coming back here so stop posting to me!!!

(this is getting hard to continue. how do people keep this up?)

--bored with u lame trolls Hell's KittenIsAll

YINYANG

Thursday, December 14, 2006 2:49 AM

Oh, you can burn in the Special Hell, Chrissy-poo. And, weren't you going beddy-by? Or, should I add lying to the list of despicable things you do?

You're a turdisall

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HELL'S KITTEN

Thursday, December 14, 2006 2:54 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:

and since ur so freakin dumb, i'll type slow so u can understand this: ilyria / malaria / whatever her name was had to break freds soul egg to make the ilyria god omlet.
WTF are you on about, H's K? Are you high? Gods don't eat!

ZOMG!!!
i cant beleive how stupid u are!1!!
theres no hope of explaining to u, it must be to far complex a concept for ur tiny mind so im not going to waste my time.

and thats it. im really leaving. this is lame and u suk!!!1 LOL!!! im still glad fred is dead!!!

--quitting fff.net forever cuz trolls like ChrisIsStupid and flimflam / yinyam suck, Hell's KittenIsTotallyAll

PS> it is so mean to call ppl ignornat, YiffYaff. u dont know me! stop judging me!!1 LOL~!!!

YINYANG

Thursday, December 14, 2006 2:54 AM

You have a life? What a joke!

And, I'll stop posting to you when you die, thank you very much.

You may be the worst degenerate here. Go back to the whorehouse where you belong!

(Gosh, this is hard. I second your question, HK.)

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YINYANG

Thursday, December 14, 2006 2:57 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:

PS> it is so mean to call ppl ignornat, YiffYaff. u dont know me! stop judging me!!1 LOL~!!!

I reserve the right to judge wherever I please, whenever I please. And, at least I'm smart enough to get your name right. I'm beginning to think there's just a drooling baboon on the other side of your computer.

And, if you're going to do us the courtesy of leaving, wouldn't you at least do it already? Just the thought of it makes this place better.

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HELL'S KITTEN

Thursday, December 14, 2006 2:58 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by yinyang:
Go back to the whorehouse where you belong!

yeh well at least i have a house unlike u who has to sleep on the streets like TurdIsAll.

btw, "turdisall" that was a totally aw3som3 flame! Rock on, YiffYaff!!1 u still suk.

(has anyone conducted a study on how threads like this can actually happen with all seriousness?)

--going to find a voodoo doll shaped like PingPong, Hell's KittenRULESisall!!

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YINYANG

Thursday, December 14, 2006 3:01 AM

Have a fun time with PN, HK! I'm sure he's a frequent customer of yours; and, admit it, you're happy every time he comes back.

"HK and PN sitting in a tree, H-U-M-P-I-N-G..."

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HELL'S KITTEN

Thursday, December 14, 2006 3:20 AM

WTF is PN???
u kno ur just jealous cuz im gettin some and ur not!! LOL
ZOMG LOL ur so stupid!!
we're talking about how good it is that fred is dead even tho ChrisIsWhatever is a crybaby sissy face about it and u bring up some PN thing?/?? What is Wrong with u?!?
u know ur just talking to urself now, right? cuz im totally done with this lame thread. lol

--out of here 4evr lame-os, Hell's KittenForever!

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FUTUREMRSFILLION

Thursday, December 14, 2006 3:20 AM

Do I have to limit it to 1?

duckingFMF

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YINYANG

Thursday, December 14, 2006 3:59 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:
WTF is PN???
u kno ur just jealous cuz im gettin some and ur not!! LOL
ZOMG LOL ur so stupid!!
we're talking about how good it is that fred is dead even tho ChrisIsWhatever is a crybaby sissy face about it and u bring up some PN thing?/?? What is Wrong with u?!?
u know ur just talking to urself now, right? cuz im totally done with this lame thread. lol

--out of here 4evr lame-os, Hell's KittenForever!

Oh, so I guess he's too ashamed to give his real name - doesn't want people to know that he's stooped so low as to go at it with you, eh?

And, you should really consider getting help for your meth addiction. It really doesn't help your retarded mind one bit.

Besides, if you were even paying attention at all, I already established that Angel was the worst thing Joss has done for himself. You and all the weird "good vampire" groupies need to get out of here. Angel is a show that isn't even worth of a fandom, much less a disgustingly loyal one.

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Do I have to limit it to 1?

duckingFMF

What, did you just come off the line from Trolls'R'Us? That little "insult" shouldn't even be considered note-worthy.

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FUTUREMRSFILLION

Thursday, December 14, 2006 4:13 AM

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Back off stalker! If it wasn't note worthy why'd you note it? Ooooh schoooooooled you. Stay in the baby pool so you don't get hurt!

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YINYANG

Thursday, December 14, 2006 4:26 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:

"Forsaken Lurker "

Back off stalker! If it wasn't note worthy why'd you note it? Ooooh schoooooooled you. Stay in the baby pool so you don't get hurt!

Really? I'd say you're the stalker, as a matter of fact. You come in here, you're fair game. Or, don't you understand the rules? And, enjoy your little "victory;" I'm off to my own life, thank you very much.

Until tomorrow, Commie-loving Nazis!

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MRBLUESUN

Thursday, December 14, 2006 10:50 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Hotpoint:
Quote:
Originally posted by MrBlueSun:
The traditional concept of God simply could not be one of the PTB because quite frankly they are far too much like accountants or bank managers for them to actually function as the Judeo-Christian God. Don't ask me to explain they just are.

Okay so I'll take that on faith shall I

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Originally posted by MrBlueSun:

Also, Fred's soul couldn't have been completely destroyed because if it was how do you explain Illyria slowly developing more Fred like qualities towards the end of season five, such as her love for Wesley and greif following his death. As far as i'm aware evil old one demon thingies don't feel grief at the loss of mortals, but hell i'm no expert.

It's already established Buffyverse canon that you don't necessarily need a soul to feel emotion, even love. Spike for example demonstrated romantic love for both Drusilla and Buffy and still loved his mother after being turned despite the lack of a soul.

Illyria's move towards a more human personality could just be Fred's memories rather than a remnant of her soul.

Anyhow the God-King of the Smurfs wasn't evil so much as seriously megalomaniacal

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Fair point but let us not forget that Spike (and indeed vampires in general) were originally human therefore it could simply be a memory of the emotion and some latant psychological need to still feel that emotion, rather like an amputee feeling 'phantom pains'. Illyria was completely demonic therefore she has never had the oppurunity before her imprisonment to feel 'human' emotions. Indeed her only contact with humanity was when she (for want of a better word) consumed Fred's soul. Therefore her apparent development of human aspects must be directly linked to some shard of Fred's consciousness remaining intact within her. This gradual progression of Illyria towards humanity, her grief at the death of Wesley and her desire to avenge him, could indicate that Fred's soul was in fact begining to reemerge.
Also strictly speaking Spike was obsessed with Buffy. There is a difference.

'If nothing we do matters, then all that matters is what we do'

CHRISISALL

Thursday, December 14, 2006 2:19 PM

That's a straw man argument, MrBluesun! Where are your links? Why do you hate America? Can't you stick to the topic, troll? Go ahead and bash Joss, he's keeping you safe from the imminent vampire attacks, and their WMD's!!!*

*Worrysome Mouth Darts

good points thought dude, almost feel bad flaming ya...almost.

Flame retard-ant Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Thursday, December 14, 2006 2:23 PM

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Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:

Back off stalker!

*Spike accent* Where's your cross, bitch? Big talk for a Nancy-girl! Keep writing love letters to The RightStuff, they make more sense than you do here!

Berserker flame raging Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Thursday, December 14, 2006 2:27 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by yinyang:

Until tomorrow, Commie-loving Nazis!

Well, it's tomorrow, where are your Commie-loving Nazi friends? You do have some, right?

What am I thinking? There are no computers in nursury school; I'll have to wait for your witty reparte untill AFTER noon!!!!!

Master of the flame Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Thursday, December 14, 2006 2:31 PM

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Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:
WTF is PN???

Like you're NOT a Piratenews subscriber!!!
Y'all make me sick with all this Buffylove and such. Angel could (and DID) kick her ASS!!! The Scoobies suck, and so do you!
Take off, eh?

Hoser flamer Chrisisall

CLEMENTINE

Thursday, December 14, 2006 3:31 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Why do you hate Angel?

I thought I'd been clear.

Angel is lame. His hair sticks straight up and he's bloody stupid.
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FUTUREMRSFILLION

Thursday, December 14, 2006 7:07 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:

Back off stalker!

*Spike accent* Where's your cross, bitch? Big talk for a Nancy-girl! Keep writing love letters to The RightStuff, they make more sense than you do here!

Berserker flame raging Chrisisall

I got your cross right here you freaking poof! *pulls out huge TRS skewering cross* and impales ChrisisallVampireDead*

(FMF can't flame today, she is on the feel good drugs)

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YINYANG

Thursday, December 14, 2006 10:57 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by yinyang:

Until tomorrow, Commie-loving Nazis!

Well, it's tomorrow, where are your Commie-loving Nazi friends? You do have some, right?

What am I thinking? There are no computers in nursury school; I'll have to wait for your witty reparte untill AFTER noon!!!!!

Master of the flame Chrisisall

No, I was hoping they'd all carpool with you. Guess you're just too extreme, even for that hwin dan group.

Well, excuse me for having an actual life. And, a three-year-old knows how to use a computer better than your decrepit old "buddies" at the old folk's home.

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CHRISISALL

Thursday, December 14, 2006 11:05 PM

Biped!
Dog-walker!
Go-se eater!
Baywatch fan!

Really harsh Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Thursday, December 14, 2006 11:15 PM

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Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:

*pulls out huge TRS skewering cross* and impales ChrisisallVampireDead*

Missed the heart, Dawnie!

Go be a key Chrisisall

EMBERS

Thursday, December 14, 2006 11:25 PM

huh

this is downright unsettlin'

YINYANG

Thursday, December 14, 2006 11:39 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Baywatch fan!

Oh, please! The only people dumb enough to be fans of Baywatch are the same brand of suckers that were foolish enough to love Hitler. So, that would be you, right?

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CHRISISALL

Friday, December 15, 2006 1:28 AM

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Originally posted by embers:
huh

Em, you've stumbled into the middle of a Flame War. Where are your weapons? 'Huh' doesn't cut it. We need, like, "You are all insane, you Joss-fearing miscreants!" or "Die, fools!"...something like that.

Flame instructor Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Friday, December 15, 2006 1:30 AM

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Originally posted by yinyang:

Oh, please! The only people dumb enough to be fans of Baywatch are the same brand of suckers that were foolish enough to love Hitler.

DIE, FOOL!!!

See how well that works? Chrisisall

EMBERS

Friday, December 15, 2006 1:55 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by embers:
huh

Em, you've stumbled into the middle of a Flame War. Where are your weapons? 'Huh' doesn't cut it.

I'm afraid my normal weapons, in flame wars, are:
snidely attacking the immaturity of the posters still living in their parents' basements
(while I'm pretty sure all have homes of your own)
or sneering at fangurls who are overly invested in one actor
(I'm thinking you aren't one of Spike's stalkers... are you?)
or showing my contempt for people who have to be the center of attention making every thread all about themselves
(but you guys seem to be staying 'on topic' more or less...)

In other words, I feel like Mal when he opens the crate o'River
I got nothin'
hense the "huh"

CHRISISALL

Friday, December 15, 2006 7:24 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by embers:

hense the "huh"

Oh, I got it.

And I AM a Spike stalker, heh heh.

Immature flamer Chrisisall

CHARLIETHEBLOODY

Monday, December 18, 2006 2:24 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
And I AM a Spike stalker, heh heh.

I deride your spike stalking abilities, call yourelf a fangurl? LAME... I'm booked up to go sit through him doing an acoustic set of his own songs

now that's dedication.

silly, silly american man

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CHRISISALL

Monday, December 18, 2006 7:24 PM

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Originally posted by charliethebloody:

silly, silly american man

First reverse-reference ever Chrisisall

CHARLIETHEBLOODY

Saturday, December 23, 2006 12:27 AM

is it? I thought I'd used it before, still pinching your line though, sorry

hang on this is a flame war, I shouldn't be apologising... there, that's better...

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THEMANTHEYCALLEDJAMES

Sunday, December 24, 2006 9:14 AM

When I think about 'Angel'....I like to pretend the last two seasons never happen

alot of the subplots where CORNY

-Killing Fred...acceptable...however the character Llyria shoudln't have stayed around past that episode either....they honestly tried to develop the character but it was too late to do that with just 5 episodes left in the series

-The writers tottally mishandled Cordelia's 'pregnancy'...if Charisma got knocked up why not just cover it up or write her off for a while instead of that cornyball Jazimine /Connor storyline

- The entire 'aramgedon' story arc was terriable...the whole show was leading up to it and they screwed it up...what a shame

-Having Spike in season 5 was a good idea...having Spike become a regular and upstage Angel was a HUGE mistake

-Whats the deal with the 'Senior Partners' they were hyped the whole show but they never really make an apperance ...since Angel joined W&H in S5 that was the perfect time for these players to reveal themselves(better yet when Angel joined the Black Thorn) hell why not make the SPs characters meet over the years but wasn't aware of their idenity...could have lead to some great twists

TURNIPYODOUR

Sunday, December 24, 2006 10:41 AM

Look, I'm not going to even bother reading the whole thread because, well, I can't be arsed to sit here and listen to your stupidity.
So, all I'm going to say is that your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!

CHARLIETHEBLOODY

Sunday, December 24, 2006 6:39 PM

ok, this is my first attempt at flaming, I'm usually very nice so bear with me

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Originally posted by themantheycalledJames:
When I think about 'Angel'....I like to pretend the last two seasons never happen

alot of the subplots where CORNY

you mean like your face?

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-Killing Fred...acceptable...however the character Llyria shoudln't have stayed around past that episode either....they honestly tried to develop the character but it was too late to do that with just 5 episodes left in the series

it wasn't too late, Illyria did develop as a character and if she had just disappeared after shells, we would have been wondering what happened to this almighty powerful god in the body of fred. she had nowhere else to go, she couldn't leave the dimension but didn't have her armies to take over this one and don't forget if she hadn't stayed with them she would have blown up the etire area she happened to be in

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-The writers tottally mishandled Cordelia's 'pregnancy'...if Charisma got knocked up why not just cover it up or write her off for a while instead of that cornyball Jazimine /Connor storyline

I don't particularly disagree with this, I would have liked to keep cordy around, but it would have been pretty lame if they'd just pretended it wasn't happening and put her in baggy clothes like no one would notice...

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-Having Spike in season 5 was a good idea...having Spike become a regular and upstage Angel was a HUGE mistake

there's no rule that says the title character has to be the most interesting, buffy and angel were always ensemble shows and buffy and angel themselves were often not the most riveting and/or likeable. they just function as the glue to keep the group together.

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-Whats the deal with the 'Senior Partners' they were hyped the whole show but they never really make an apperance ...since Angel joined W&H in S5 that was the perfect time for these players to reveal themselves(better yet when Angel joined the Black Thorn) hell why not make the SPs characters meet over the years but wasn't aware of their idenity...could have lead to some great twists

the senior partners and the PTB don't 'exist' (for want of a better word) on this plane of existance, they have to communicate though the conduit, the oracles, liaisons or through visions, and the cicle of the black thorn are "the senior partners' instruments on earth". jasmine had to arrange for herself to be born from an impossible child and a higher being to be able to manifest here. I would have been very disappointed and pissed off if they'd gone oh actually it's these people who we've known all along

gaahhh, feel my wrath

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THEMANTHEYCALLEDJAMES

Monday, December 25, 2006 4:32 PM

"the senior partners and the PTB don't 'exist' (for want of a better word) on this plane of existance, they have to communicate though the conduit, the oracles, liaisons or through visions, and the cicle of the black thorn are "the senior partners' instruments on earth". jasmine had to arrange for herself to be bornfrom an impossible child and a higher being to be able to manifest here. I would have been very disappointed and pissed off if they'd gone oh actually it's these people who we've known all along

gaahhh, feel my wrath"

All right I can except that the PTB doesn't 'exist' in they way that its something like the 'Force' from the star wars franchise

however the 'Senior Partners' were obviously physical beings (one even came to visist WR&H for the 75 year review)

and I felt that the series ending without any exposition on who these dudes were was dissapointing

and geesh Angel is one of my favorite shows (subtract Season 4)...I'm just discussing the bits I might have changed

And the very business like nature of Wolfram and heart sort of supports the idea of the Partners living in this reality (or another one) they aren't powerful in the since that they are mega-antiet evil badasses they, control the Demonic organized crime

EMBERS

Wednesday, December 27, 2006 5:03 PM

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Originally posted by themantheycalledJames:
All right I can except that the PTB doesn't 'exist' in they way that its something like the 'Force' from the star wars franchise

however the 'Senior Partners' were obviously physical beings (one even came to visist WR&H for the 75 year review)

and I felt that the series ending without any exposition on who these dudes were was dissapointing

and geesh Angel is one of my favorite shows (subtract Season 4)...I'm just discussing the bits I might have changed

And the very business like nature of Wolfram and heart sort of supports the idea of the Partners living in this reality (or another one) they aren't powerful in the since that they are mega-antiet evil badasses they, control the Demonic organized crime

you need to go back and rewatch Angel's earlier seasons....
it was explained very clearly that the 'Senior Partners' were from a different demention...
they were never on earth,
but they exploited earth.

They had closer ties to Pylea (rewatching that will explain a lot about them)

Having them show up as dudes walking around on earth would trivialize them and under-cut all that backstory we had been given before...

In fact the Black Thorn WERE closely tied to the Senior Partners, and destroying them was a huge set back for Wolfram & Hart world wide (it wouldn't completely wipe them out, but it was a big step forward in the fight for truth justice and the American way!)

CHRISISALL

Thursday, January 11, 2007 7:49 PM

Just finished season five (again), and I still say HOLY CRAP, COULD IT BE MORE OPEN-ENDED?????

Not Fade Away makes Dark Angel's season finale look like a solid ending. Buffy seasons 5 and 7 ended much better!!!
My God, even a pull-away shot showing them enter the fray and fade out would've been something!!!

Sorry, jarred a bit here...even when I knew it was coming.

No fan of cut-to-black Chrisisall

EMBERS

Thursday, January 11, 2007 8:00 PM

well the metaphor of the ending of Angel's S5 is clear,
and has been repeated often by Joss:
Angel never gets to rest...
he must always keep fighting.
So he has to fight this battle, but it won't be an ending, he'll have more battles to face.

He isn't Buffy, he'll never 'earn a rest'
it is more tragic, and more heroic and epic.
(IMO)

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CHRISISALL

Thursday, January 11, 2007 8:09 PM

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Originally posted by embers:

He isn't Buffy, he'll never 'earn a rest'
it is more tragic, and more heroic and epic.
(IMO)

Agreed and all, but CUT-TO-BLACK???

Maybe it's just my visual sense...Chrisisall

EMBERS

Thursday, January 11, 2007 8:40 PM

actually it is probably that it was pouring rain and they were shotting only the actors on that final night...
all the extras had been filmed earlier, and were being CGIed w/the added value of dragons etal

So it was probably because they just couldn't afford to have Angel enter the fray (their budget had been cut at the beginning of season 5, then cut AGAIN midseason! And of course on the final episode they must have been scraping the bottom of the cash barrel).
Anyway, enjoy the commentary ... it ended too soon but at least that final season kicked ass.

CHRISISALL

Thursday, January 11, 2007 9:20 PM

Destiny and the last two eps blow me away.
(but I pretend Girl In Question doesn't exist)

Don't kill, and we won't kill you Chrisisall

EMBERS

Thursday, January 11, 2007 9:28 PM

well I adored Fred/Illyria's part of The Girl in Question...
and I got the whole foolishness of Spike & Angel
(losing their heads over Buffy ... LOL)
but have you seen the first 5 pages of the new Buffy comic book season 8 ??
(it starts in March, but the first 5 pages are online)
because you'll find a big change in what you thought you knew about The Girl in Question!

visit: http://weekinwhedon.org/wiw/

CHRISISALL

Thursday, January 11, 2007 9:37 PM

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Originally posted by embers:

and I got the whole foolishness of Spike & Angel
(losing their heads over Buffy ... LOL)

The Two Stooges

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but have you seen the first 5 pages of the new Buffy comic book season 8 ??
(it starts in March, but the first 5 pages are online)
because you'll find a big change in what you thought you knew about The Girl in Question!

No! I must look!!! Now!!!

Dashing off Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Thursday, January 11, 2007 9:47 PM

Ahhh, so that's it....cool.

Chrisisall

EMBERS

Thursday, January 11, 2007 10:46 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Ahhh, so that's it....cool.

Chrisisall

yeah that idea REALLY works for me!

Select to view spoiler:

if anything it underlines how foolishly Angel and Spike were behaving, because they were even fooled into thinking an imposter was Buffy,
and it is SO much better, IMO, that Buffy wasn't just being a clubbing party girl in Rome, instead she is doing big high risk drops from helicopters to wipe out vampire nests which terrorize people in remote regions!
(how cool is THAT!?!?!)

I love everything about Joss' decision to 'retcon' what we thought we knew...

Did you read Joss' comments at Whedonesque:
http://whedonesque.com/comments/12183#157173

visit: http://weekinwhedon.org/wiw/

CHRISISALL

Thursday, January 11, 2007 10:55 PM

Thanks for that link, Em!

Gotta love that Joss Chrisisall

DEEPGIRL187

Friday, January 12, 2007 2:27 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Destiny and the last two eps blow me away.
(but I pretend Girl In Question doesn't exist)

Don't kill, and we won't kill you Chrisisall

You and me both, Chrisisall.

Though I think I'll refrain from reading the teasers for Buffy season 8. It'd be too much torture.

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SINGATE

Saturday, January 20, 2007 7:01 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Just finished season five (again), and I still say HOLY CRAP, COULD IT BE MORE OPEN-ENDED?????

Not Fade Away makes Dark Angel's season finale look like a solid ending. Buffy seasons 5 and 7 ended much better!!!
My God, even a pull-away shot showing them enter the fray and fade out would've been something!!!

Sorry, jarred a bit here...even when I knew it was coming.

No fan of cut-to-black Chrisisall

Now looky here! A bunch a buttnuts arguing over stuff what never happened. I got 1 4 ya ms.isall. Dark Angel sucked worse than all 3 SW prequills combined. Thats right and Jar Jar was badder than Max Aquavelva. How ya like me now?!

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