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The 76th Independent Battalion (part 9)

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Tuesday, December 26, 2006 3:38 PM (P)

Greetings! This is the discussion thread for the newly-formed 76th Independent Battalion. We are planning on marching in the DragonCon parade as a Battalion of Independent soldiers.

A few updates.

RiverIsMyGoddess is the officer-in-charge of the Medical branch of the 76th.

Nicodemus has been promoted to Corporal, and will be handling the Demolitions branch of the 76th.

ChrisMoorhead has been promoted to Lieutenant for various contributions to the 76th.


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And our new website (thanks, BWTP!):
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We have a patch!


I'll see if I can get all of the relevant data in this first post...

The question of our history has been brought up and discussed in past threads. To end any debate and possible confusion, we now have one person tasked with the history of the 76th. DocJubal is now the "official historian" of the 76th. We decided it would be prudent to have ONE version of events, that way there is not the possibility of confusing or conflicting storylines. We ask everyone that has ideas about the history of 76th, that you not just post it on the threads. If you do have something you would like to add, contact DocJubal.

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Originally posted by DocJubal:
Iff'n anyone wants to write a detailed history of their character, drop me a line: dedoc@mac.com. I'll do my best to help float it right in line with the loose, roomy history of the Battalion that I've envisioned.




Also, to prevent any single post from being taken as a new rule for the 76th, BWTP or myself will post the new "rule". That way, there will be no confusion. We will have discussions on subjects, but when the decision has been made, we will officially post it. I hope that will clear up any confusion. For the most part, everything in the first post of each of these threads are the rules so far.

We have agreed that it is important to be at least somewhat uniform in appearance...vests, coat or smock, helmet, and weapon will be the same for each trooper...at least close in pants, shirts, and boots. There are two basic uniforms that we can see, and have broken them down as follows:

Type A...basically use Mal as a model. The major item of this uniform is the long coat.


This "uniform" consists of the following:
*Pants with brown stripes up the sides of the legs--links to acceptable choices will be listed later in the thread.
*An undershirt. You can wear just about anything brown or black, preferably long-sleeved, button-ups are acceptable, it does not need to have a collar
*The red vest that I have designed. I will offer these for sale or I will offer the pattern to those that would like to make their own. This pattern should not be modified except to make it fit you or the person you are making it for. There is a specific color and fabric that will be used...SLIGHT variations are allowable, but I will send fabric swatches with each pattern.
*Boots. These will be discussed later in the thread.
*The overcoat that I have designed. I will offer these for sale or I will offer the pattern to those that would like to make their own This pattern should not be modified except to make it fit you or the person that you are making it for. There is a specific color and fabric that will be used...SLIGHT variations are allowable, but I will send fabric swatches with each pattern. This coat has been approved, and will be THE coat for

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Tuesday, December 26, 2006 3:50 PM (P)

mornin' soldiers.

Artcat - I think the mail sleeves look ruttin' great

I hope you all had a shiny holiday weekend. :)

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'cause the Roman Gods up to that point were crap. Jeff, the god of biscuits, and Simon, the god of hair-dos.

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Tuesday, December 26, 2006 4:08 PM (P)

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In one episode (name forgotten), our heroes are dealing with Patience. Ambushing the sniper, Jayne is shown then taking a weapon which I think looks like the Crossman NightStalker TK to which a barrel and a muzzle brake have been added. Can any one confirm this? I infer this was a military weapon which Patience had some how 'acquired'.

I'll assume the rifle you're talking about is this one:

Not sure the make and model, but I do know it's not an SL-8 which is the decided marching rifle for the unit.

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'Brown' stripe you say?
I thought it was black, as that would be the traditional color for Infantry. Wide stripe for NCOs, thin stripe for offices, no stripe for the 'high privates'.

I second Tristan's statement. The stripe on Mal's pants was brown, and that's what we're going to stick to, for the same reason we're wearing the Independent patch star point down, as it's how Mal was wearing it.


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I was given the firefly companion for christmas and beign the uber geek I am I immediately flipped to teh soldier section, the area it shows both sides of the patch with the codes on the back, one of the sketches shows the corners of the traingles darkened.... it is not a blatant sign of rank buuut could it possibly be how they showed rank? just color in teh corners of the patch?
I believe Magda hit the nail on the head. These simply look like design sketches, similar to any other movie or game that's out nowadays. Designers usually go through a ton of designs before they finally decide on one. And even so, if this was how they denoted rank there are a couple of reasons we won't:

1. Differences too subtle. It would be difficult to tell at a glance what someone's rank is.

2. And most importantly, it's not like we can go down and have one or two of these special patches made, they have to be ordered in quantities of 50-100+.

It's a good catch and suggestion, and if it was pheasable, we'd probably go for it, but again, the rank we're using is cheap and easily recognizable.

Oh, and a side note about my real mail sleeves. Turns out I won't need to buy a new bunch. With the size of the ring I simply had to change up from the 4-in-1 pattern to the 6-in-1 pattern. It seems to be coming out quite nicely. Once I find my damn camera I'll post a pic.

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Tuesday, December 26, 2006 4:19 PM (P)

RIMG, I did not get the chance to say good morning to you in the other thread. So...good morning!
There is quite a bit to catch up on from the weekend.

BWTP, good morning to you, as well!
I hope your holidays were spent in the pleasant company of family and friends.

Thanks for the info on the patches. I was not entirely sure about that. I do think it would be easier to stick with "one for all" on those anyway, even if it had turned out the corners denoted ranking.

Good news on the sleeves, too!

Quick updates of my own...
I SHOULD have the newer version of the vest and the latest verion of the coat ready for photos tonight or tomorrow (I had no time to sew this weekend, or it would have been sooner). The cloth I found for the coat looks good, and falls and flows better than the cotton trigger.
I should also have the patches from Sister in the mail today (thank you, Sister!), so I'll have detailed photos (I hope) and a full "report" on whether or not this is the patch we will be using.

I think that's about it. If there is anything I missed, please let me know.

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Tuesday, December 26, 2006 4:54 PM (P)

Thanks for the weapon picture - I see that this is definitely NOT the Crossman air rifle, but a 'kit bash' by some prop designer. I have purchase the recommended sniper rifle and it should show up in the next few days (Amazon, of all places, having a special).

Tristan, thanks for the photograph. Not only is the are pants and ribbed stripe very clearly brown, but I see the pants are 'cognac' or even 'butternut'. So, I plan to get a cotton pair ffom Blockaderunnerin butternut - that should do it.

Regards,

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Tuesday, December 26, 2006 5:11 PM (P)

Morning, Quandom!
I am looking forward to seeing your rifle.
As for the pants, those are the two pictures I used when trying to figure out what to put on for a stripe...and ended up with the grosgrain. The pants from Wild West are the same "wheat" or butternut color of Mal's; they just do not photograph all that well for some reason.

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Tuesday, December 26, 2006 5:42 PM (P)

BWTP, I'm glad you figured out the correct ratio for your sleeves! For future reference, there is a way to make your own rings. I'll have Ben post or forward the info about it. (Making 'em yourself is time consuming, but probably cheaper in the long run. )

Tristan, if it's alright with you, before I make copies of the flyer to send to Serenity @ SEBC, I'm gonna go ahead and add the address for the OB. 'K?

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Tuesday, December 26, 2006 6:23 PM (P)

BWTP, she is right about time-consuming...and you have to watch out for "spurs" on the links if you cut them yourself...and dremel-tooling them takes out too much metal; you'll end up with odd-shaped circles.

Boomer, no problem at all with the OB link. Our Proboard link should be on there, too, if you don't mind!

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Tuesday, December 26, 2006 6:50 PM (P)

That's the one I was referring to. Guess I should put OB in quotes. Or refer to it as PB. LOL.

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Tuesday, December 26, 2006 6:53 PM (P)

Now you have me confused, Boomer! I thought OB was the Serenity Browncoat board for some reason...I refer to the 76th message board as either the "Proboard" or the "76th message board"... OB=Other Board?
AHH!


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Wednesday, December 27, 2006 3:07 AM (P)

No, it's just me referring to the "official board" of the 76th. No worries. Let's just call it the PB from now on and be done with it!

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Wednesday, December 27, 2006 12:43 PM (P)

Bumping

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Wednesday, December 27, 2006 12:48 PM (P)

Good morning Sister! I think we're meant to be drilling... but bumping will work just as well...



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Wednesday, December 27, 2006 1:42 PM (P)

Morning, 76th!

Sister, the patches arrived last night! Thank you, thank you, thank you!
They look quite good. I have sent some detailed photos to BWTP, and he and I are going to talk about them a bit before making a firm decision.
But again, thank you for sending them! :hugs:

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Wednesday, December 27, 2006 2:04 PM (P)

Oh, I'm so glad they got there!... Hope they work out okay. I thought they looked just shiney as could be! And they seemed to fit with canon...plus the measurements seemed to be fine with "our" patch.
Again; you are welcome...I figured you could use 'em as you figure out the "smock-up" and other things! My 'pants' **shudders** are en route...(sister quakes to think how large her butt will look!)...I also ordered the brown "womens" size suspenders. I'll report to the other concerned womenfolk in the 76th...and I will be honest!! Have a great day.

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Wednesday, December 27, 2006 2:06 PM (P)

Sister, I am sure your butt will look fine in those pants! (Can I say that? ) Thank you in advance for the "report" on the women's pants. I am sure they will all appreciate it.

The patches look great, and I even put one on the coat I finished last night. I'll be posting pictures in a little while, so keep your eyes open for those!

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Wednesday, December 27, 2006 2:39 PM (P)

Harassment from the Colonel, harassment from the Colonel, ooooo I'm telling.

I aim to misbehave!

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Wednesday, December 27, 2006 2:41 PM (P)

I certainly will, CO. Tristan, Sir!!

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Wednesday, December 27, 2006 2:41 PM (P)

Sister - I keep telling you - you have nothing to fear!! appart from anything else - we will have our coats or smocks on and nobody will notice our butts in those - we'll look just as shiny as can be!!

Sir! I have seen those pictures, and I concur that they are shiny patches indeed, Sir!

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Wednesday, December 27, 2006 2:53 PM (P)

Hey, not harassment! Just trying to help...give her my support...let her know that she will look good in the pants! Ah!
Wait a minute...I AM the commanding officer...if I say it's not harassment, then it's not harassment. Yeah. I'm sticking with that.

Sister, thank you again.

Morning, FFG! What have you been up to?

Magda, thank you for that. I really am going to get those photos up soon!

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Wednesday, December 27, 2006 3:42 PM (P)

Ok, no harassment, Sir. I just had to get my 2 coin in somehow. I worked my 2 jobs yesterday and didn't do much posting. I really am looking forward to Sister's report!

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Wednesday, December 27, 2006 3:46 PM (P)

..As soon as I get those pants...I will try them on...have my husband take a picture and get them
on the board!! I will be brave, 'cuz that's what the 76th is all about!!
And, Col. Tristan, sir; you are most welcome! Anything I can do to help the Battalion!

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Wednesday, December 27, 2006 4:34 PM (P)

So, has BWTP ordered any of the 76th patches yet? I don't need one rightthisminute...but sometime in the next month would do me just fine.

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Wednesday, December 27, 2006 4:41 PM (P)

Thank you, FFG. I have to remember that you are always watching!

Boomer, the 76th patches have not yet been ordered. I believe the first order will happen sometime in February.

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Wednesday, December 27, 2006 5:29 PM (P)

Ok, here are the pictures I have been promising all morning.
This is the "final" version of the coat, with the cloth I have chosen to go with. It's a looser weave than the first one, with a better "flow" to it. I think there are about 2.5-3 yards of cloth in these, plus the same amount for the lining. Construction time is about two days, give or take. The buttons are from Hancock Fabrics and are basic four-hole 1" plastic coat buttons. The buttonholes were made using a tight, regular zig-zag stitch.
I am not yet sure of a final price. I am still aiming for $100.00 or under, and it looks like I should be able to hit that.
If there is anything y'all want to know, please ask!



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Wednesday, December 27, 2006 6:03 PM (P)

Remarkable.
You should eventually bring this out mass market, and I think the price point can be pushed to and keppt at $100. I am awed at how skilled some folk are. I hope you will contact other vendors of Firefly/Serenity product and have them make a market in it for you. They can get the Indepdendent and unit patches themselves, assemle, make margin on the integration. Or, you can sell through those that make the patches. All manner of possibilities.

Meanwhile, those who are members of the unit can get it at the price you are proposing or less, depending.

Question only on the color - some how I think it was a darker brown? No matter, I'll got with whatever is our standard.

Best Reagrds,

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Wednesday, December 27, 2006 6:07 PM (P)

Would it be possible to get a layout of the 'recruiting' graphic to be portrait rather than landscape. If this were posted at the 76ths home page, we can all download it locally, have it blow up to poster size to display and distribute at local venues (hobby shops) and 'cons.

In Service,

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Wednesday, December 27, 2006 6:11 PM (P)

Thanks, Quandom!
My first priority will be clothing the 76th. I like the idea of mass-marketing this, but I also like the idea of it being something exclusive to our Battalion. I'll have to see what happens down the road.
As to the color, it's a dark khaki. It shows up a bit lighter in photos than in real life. That is what I will be using to make the coats. I did say that there would be SLIGHT variations in color allowable to those that opt to make their own, but I would prefer they not go too much darker than what is shown. I will be sending cloth swatches to those asking for the pattern.
Thank you again for the comments!

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Wednesday, December 27, 2006 6:31 PM (P)

WOW!! Coat looks AWESOME!! (makes me excited to see what such a talent can do with the 'smock-ups!".... Excellent choice of fabric and color!
(I get that 'flash' makes the color look lighter.. and we're a 'brand-spanking new' battalion so not 'battle stained' yet! You do fabulous work my Col.!!

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Wednesday, December 27, 2006 6:33 PM (P)

WOW!! Coat looks AWESOME!! (makes me excited to see what such a talent can do with the 'smock-ups!".... Excellent choice of fabric and color!
(I get that 'flash' makes the color look lighter.. and we're a 'brand-spanking new' battalion so not 'battle stained' yet! You do fabulous work my Col.!!

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Wednesday, December 27, 2006 6:37 PM (P)


Thank you, Sister! I am happy with the way it turned out, and I can tell you that it wears pretty well...I wore it to work to see what it was like, and it's not all that bad. It's pretty lightweight (it's about 50F here right now, and the coat is not quite enough to keep me warm), so it should be decent for the march at D*C.

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Wednesday, December 27, 2006 9:10 PM (P)

Tristan,
WOW,I am so completely blown away by this new coat,I can't even tell you!! Everything is perfect about it,the color,the drape of the cloth,everything! Please,sign me up for two of them!

Also,I noticed when I was studying the preliminary material at the beginning of this thread that there was a link to Browncoat patches.I have ordered these particular patches previously and I just wanted to let you know that they definitely don't have blue stars on them,they're black.I say this because I believe there was talk about requiring blue stars if I'm not mistaken.
Additionally,there has been a lot of talk about the stripe on the trousers but none about the one on the helmet.What paint should we use and what is the width of this stripe? Also,what sort of shirt goes under the vest?

Geez,I feel like the"question guy" all of a sudden.I really don't mean to badger you and I know we have plenty of time before DragonCon but I was just curious.

And before I forget,Ladies,your butts are probably just peachy no matter what pants your wearing! I really wouldn't stress about it too much! This is not a swimsuit contest! :)

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Wednesday, December 27, 2006 9:21 PM (P)

Thank you, NaughtyMan! I am glad you like the coat. I am very happy with the way the cloth turned out, too (there are a lot more detailed photos on the Proboard if you care to check them out).
We have decided on the Blue Star patch, and I have updated the intial post on this thread...but neglected to post anything saying that in here. Thanks for pointing that out.

We are now using the patches found at OutToTheBlack.com...they have the blue star, and are quite nice. The patch sewn on the coat above is one of these.

As for the paint on the helmet, as soon as I get my hands on one I am going to start playing with it to figure all of that out...the color, the stripe, etc. Keep an eye here for updates on that.

The undershirt needs to be long-sleeved, and either black or brown would be a good color choice. The shirt I am wearing in the photos above is a three-button Faded Glory pullover from WalMart that only cost $10.00. It has a nice, loose-looking weave, and fits comfortably.

Thank you for the questions, and don't feel like you are badgering at all. These are things that are on other people's minds, too!

I agree with you on the female pants thing...but I got in trouble for mentioning that earlier...

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Wednesday, December 27, 2006 10:46 PM (P)

If I may, NaughtyMan, Out To The Black had a black star patch before the Companion came out and found out the stars were actually blue. On TV, as you know they looked black but the color was changed when it was evident they were blue. So no worries on getting the "wrong" color now.

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Wednesday, December 27, 2006 11:17 PM (P)

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Would it be possible to get a layout of the 'recruiting' graphic to be portrait rather than landscape. If this were posted at the 76ths home page, we can all download it locally, have it blow up to poster size to display and distribute at local venues (hobby shops) and 'cons.



I'm trying to 'schmooz' a few college students (not in any morally objectionable way) to see if I can't get 'hold of Photoshop and/or Illustrator so's I can do something further.

As it is now, the current banner was done w/MS Paint (y'know the software that came with the Windows operating system?), and I've since moved to an iMac which has NO, none, zero, zip, nada, total hard vaccuum devoid even of the occasional random Hydrogen atom - graphics manipulating capability out of the box. I've tried a couple of 'freeware' and 'shareware' downloads, but have been unsuccessful so far at even duplicating what I've already done (one locks up, the other puts DEMO all over everything unless you buy it (for much less than Illustrator, but still far more than I'm willing to part with).

I do hereby release any and all claim to the banner, and do expressly encourage further developement by better equiped, and/or motivated Browncoats. The actual 76th icon is someone else's, and you'd best do a sight better job of giving that person or group credit than I did.

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Thursday, December 28, 2006 3:56 AM (P)

I'm a lurker here on the board, but I heard the recruitment call over at serenitymovie.org and figured I'd take a look.

I planed (*fingers crossed*) on DragonCon for next year and after meeting so many shiny folk at B3 and hearing the call for soldiers for the 76th, I figure I'd enlist!

Well, off to the 76th website and board for a proper introduction!

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Thursday, December 28, 2006 4:11 AM (P)

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Thursday, December 28, 2006 7:34 AM (P)

Yay - we need all the shiny folk we can get Bluishbrowncoat!! I am looking forward to meeting everyone - and if you don't make it this year we will probably say your on medical evacuation and will hope to march with you next year...

Ah - is that OK sir? Colonel O'Terney, Sir? Medical leave...???

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Thursday, December 28, 2006 8:20 AM (P)

Medical Evacuation? Gee sounds kinda serious....:p

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Thursday, December 28, 2006 11:31 AM (P)

Welcome Blueishbrowncoat! I am happy to see another Georgian around these parts.

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Thursday, December 28, 2006 12:11 PM (P)

Love the coat Tristan. It looks great, and was worth the wait. Your efforts have certainly been worth it if the final product is any indication.

Put me down for one once you start producing them. How will you work sizes?

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Thursday, December 28, 2006 1:11 PM (P)

Hooray, word contines to spread. Welcome to the Battalion BluishBrowncoat. I was at B3, I wonder if we met? If not, I certainly look forward to meeting you at Dragon*Con.

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Thursday, December 28, 2006 4:37 PM (P)

hrmm...perhaps we did? I met so many people and that weekend is kind of a blur. (it doesnt help that I'm really bad with names and faces!)

I dunno, I have blue hair(well a patch of blue hair)? Does that help? Did we meet? :)

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Thursday, December 28, 2006 4:52 PM (P)

I can sympathize with the name thing. I believe I remember seeing you but don't believe we talked. I was also behind the Out To The Black table so I didn't get "Out" much, we were busy.


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Thursday, December 28, 2006 4:56 PM (P)

Morning, 76th!
Yes, we continue to grow!

Magda...medical evacuation...hmm...I'll defer to the Medical branch on that one....

BrownCoat1, thank you for the compliments on the coat. I like the way it turned out, and seeing a bunch of those marching down the street will be very shiny!
As for sizes, I am going with the basics: Height, chest, waist, arm length, etc. As I get ready to start producing them, I'll post over on the Proboard.

Blueishbrowncoat, welcome to the 76th (again)! I approved your membership to the Proboard last night...not sure if you have posted there yet.

Today is a busy workday for me, so I'll be on and off. If there is something important going down, feel free to email me at tristan71@cableone.net

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Thursday, December 28, 2006 5:35 PM (P)

I too was at BBB, weatiing my Alliance impression all weekend. I had broght a 'browncoat' soldier impression as well, but a number of attendees were kind enough to praise my Alliance impression and urged me to keep it going, as no one else was doing one. Well, flattery will get you everywhere, and I guess it got me at Burbank.

I suppose if we need 'prisoners' to display I could always be persuaded to don it again.

In Service,

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Thursday, December 28, 2006 7:13 PM (P)

Bah. We don't need no stinkin' 'Liance.



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Friday, December 29, 2006 12:10 PM (P)

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Friday, December 29, 2006 3:33 PM (P)

...and another Friday-before-New Year's-Eve-BUMP
soon it will be 2007 and the 76th will have just 8 months before D*C!!

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Friday, December 29, 2006 5:12 PM (P)

Morning, 76th!

We have a few updates from the Proboard that need to be put in here...

Scarves...
We have done away with the green scarf for the Non-coms. They will now be wearing the blue scarves of the commissioned officers.

We have made a decision on the soft headcover. BWTP found this link:
http://www.sparklingearth.com/products.asp?category=100005
As there are a wide variety of choices on the site, we have tried to make it easy. The following headcovers are approved for use by the 76th:

Desert Skull Cap-Red--Item#202:202-1032 (for the Enlisted personnel)

Desert Skull Cap-Navy--Item#202:202-1034 (for the officers, commissioned and non-commissioned)

Desert Skull Cap-Black Air Flow--Item#202:202-2007 (for the Snipers and Demos)


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Friday, December 29, 2006 5:47 PM (P)

The coat looks good Tristan.

I think nighttime is dark so you can imagine your fears with less distraction.

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Friday, December 29, 2006 5:50 PM (P)

Thank you, Mircea!
You going to be joining us?

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Friday, December 29, 2006 5:52 PM (P)

I've been thinking about it, but I already know it'll take a small miracle for me to be at D*C this year.

I think nighttime is dark so you can imagine your fears with less distraction.

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Friday, December 29, 2006 5:55 PM (P)

Mircea, you don't have to make it to D*C to become a recruit...we plan on being around a long time after D*C!

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Friday, December 29, 2006 6:01 PM (P)

I know, but I want to be at the first march or its less fun.

I think nighttime is dark so you can imagine your fears with less distraction.

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Friday, December 29, 2006 7:24 PM (P)

Ok, I'm in. I've been recruiting for you the past couple days anyway.

I think nighttime is dark so you can imagine your fears with less distraction.

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Friday, December 29, 2006 7:43 PM (P)

Thank you, Mircea!
Welcome to the 76th!

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Friday, December 29, 2006 8:04 PM (P)

I feel all belongy and such

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Friday, December 29, 2006 10:31 PM (P)

Gah! The PB is down! How will I get my fix?!?

edit: Whew! Back up...that was close.

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Saturday, December 30, 2006 2:53 AM (P)

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Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:55 PM (P)

Just wanted to say hi to ya'll. I'm a new recuit to the battalion and working on getting my uniform together.

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Saturday, December 30, 2006 6:06 PM (P)

Welcome Foxykitsune (hope I spelled that right).. we love new recruits. Visit the dedicated board for details on uniforms.

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Saturday, December 30, 2006 10:55 PM (P)

Howdy do, Foxy!

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Sunday, December 31, 2006 3:02 AM (P)

Welcome to the Battalion, FoxyKitsune. I look forward to meeting and marching with you at DragonCon. By the way, Sister has ordered one of the pairs of pants from one of the approved sites and she promised us some photos when she gets them. We Browncoat gals are waiting on the fit report :)

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Sunday, December 31, 2006 12:37 PM (P)

and here's a BUMP for Sunday...
New Year's Eve!! Everyone have a
"happy"...and a 'Safe' one.

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Sunday, December 31, 2006 2:32 PM (P)

Awesome! I guess I am lucky in that my hubby is a multi-talented tailor and armorer (I never thought that all his work with chainmail would ever be of any use to me *G* only goes to show to never count any hobby out). Right now he's gathering as many pictures of Zoe's uniform together in as many different poses as possible so he can get it just right.

Anyone have any ideas as to how to attach the chain mail sleeves onto the uniform?

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Sunday, December 31, 2006 2:46 PM (P)

Um, FoxyKitsune were you planning to go as Zoe or just use the Type B uniform? Also, not to cause trouble but Colonel O'Tearney will be designing the pattern for the uniforms for everyone to follow, so it comes out, well, uniform this way your hubby doesn't actually have to spend his time gathering the pictures. It will pretty much be done for him. As for the pants, I'm fair certain that all of us will be ordering from 1 of the 3 vendors, again for uniformity sake. You may want to ask the Colonel but the uniform posts are pretty straight forward about the uniform



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Sunday, December 31, 2006 3:25 PM (P)

Use the type B uniform, hubby likes to sew patternless.

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Sunday, December 31, 2006 5:47 PM (P)

Foxykitsune, I am well-pleased that your husband is a multi-talented tailor and armorer...he and I might have to talk someday (I am also an armorer as well as a "professional" costumer).
What FFG has said is true. The 76th has a uniform requirement that everyone will stick to. The patterns for the coat, vest and undertunic/smock (for the Type B uniform) will be the same. I have designed both the pattern for the coat and the vest, and am currently working on the pattern for the undertunic/smock. I appreciate the fact that your husband builds without patterns, as I do the smae most of the time. However, in order for us to look uniform, there needs to be a set pattern for EVERYONE, including you. As soon as I have the pattern for the Type B uniform done, I will start making costume pieces for those that want them, and offering the patterns to those that want to make their own. As far as the patterns go, the ONLY modifications allowable to them will be to fit the individual. There will also be cloth swatches sent with the patterns, and it is expected that you stick as closely to those as possible. SLIGHT variations in color are allowable.
Again, the idea if for uniformity as much as is possible. Please re-read the first post in this thread, and also check out this thread over on the 76th Proboard: http://76thbattalion.proboards59.com/index.cgi?board=uniform&action=di
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Sunday, December 31, 2006 6:09 PM (P)

Then just send the pattern my way as soon as it's done and well get to work, working on the chain mail sleeves right now.

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Sunday, December 31, 2006 6:11 PM (P)

I will go ahead and make an announcement when the patterns are ready.

Thank you.

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Sunday, December 31, 2006 7:12 PM (P)

Medical evacuation. With this particular group I think that translates from medic speak into "beer run".
Perhaps it's "hung over in their room"?




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Sunday, December 31, 2006 11:09 PM (P)

Colonel, I gots a question about footwear:

I notice that in the photos, you're wearing some mighty fine knee highs that appear to have zips up the inside of the leg.
BWTP was kind enough to provide links to various footwear, all of which is of the lace up the front, "current issue" variety.

Is it acceptable to wear brownish boots of a western flavor? Not the fanciful heavily embroidered pointy toed cockroach killer type, just a pair of round toed, mid-calf pretty much plain except the stitches needed to hold 'em together variety? I'll post a pic or two if needed (have to go back to the shop to take the pics).

Been needin a good pair of work boots anyway, and would like to get easy to slip on/off as opposed to lacing & tying...

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Monday, January 1, 2007 11:30 AM (P)

I don't see a problem with it, as long as they are plain round toed boots. We don't want people marching with "Liberace of the Old West" boots. If they are as you describe them, I thing they would be fine.

WWMerc has some nice ones. One I was planning on possibly getting (as I want to stear clear of laces the more I think of it) is the Oak Tree Preacher Boot they have. All there boots can be found here:

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Monday, January 1, 2007 1:49 PM (P)

New Year's Day BUMP for the 76th!

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Monday, January 1, 2007 1:53 PM (P)

Many thanks for the link!
Those are some very nice boots. Bit more coin when compared to the lace-ups, but definitely much more what I was looking for.

I don't understand the "Liberace" (what a great term) boots. Most of the time you'd wear your pants over the boot, unless you were expecting mud/dirt to besmirch your pants, and if that's the case, why expose your fancy boots which cost a fair bit more than your pants, and are harder to clean?

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Monday, January 1, 2007 2:01 PM (P)

Hiya Flattop..We are using the screencaps from Firefly to pattern our "look" and they do show the boots outside of the pants...for both the Type A and Type B uniforms. And I think the "Liberace" style boots are the really fancy, schmancy western style with lots of stitching and gee-gaws. An equestrienne (oooh, too early to spell-check, sorry) would work as well..I gots myownself a pair of Frye boots that were approved by 76th Command.

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Monday, January 1, 2007 2:07 PM (P)

Thanks Sister.
By "Don't understand" I was meaning "What are these people thinking" for non-costume, everyday going to the grocery/work wear. I guess there must be a part of the population that does wear 'em (judging by the selection on the walls at the local shop), but I haven't seen 'em...

For the purposes of the 76th, I understand.


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Monday, January 1, 2007 3:37 PM (P)

Okay..oh, and old-time, for-real cowboys used to wear their pants inside the boots to protect their legs when riding through sagebrush. I learned that from an old-time, for-really, real cowboy! 'Course old-time boots were'nt quite as 'fancied' up and pointy! (Altho some newer-times cowboys and cowgirls say the pointy toes are useful for climbing up a steep arroyo or squashing spiders in corners...;)

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Monday, January 1, 2007 8:52 PM (P)

There is a real-time cowboy in Ben's leatherworking guild (he made a saddle for the President). He always wears his pants tucked into his boots. Have no idea why, but those fancy boots of his are well-sprung and broken in.

Guess we'll never know why cowboys do the things they do.

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Tuesday, January 2, 2007 1:30 AM (P)

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Tuesday, January 2, 2007 1:45 AM (P)

Quote:

Originally posted by BoomerGoodheart:
There is a real-time cowboy in Ben's leatherworking guild (he made a saddle for the President). He always wears his pants tucked into his boots. Have no idea why, but those fancy boots of his are well-sprung and broken in.

Guess we'll never know why cowboys do the things they do.



In the Army we always tucked our pants into our boots as well. Not only does it look better, but it's safer too. When out in the field (for military, civilians or cowboys) and you're trudging through God knows what, having your pants tucked into your boots kept all matter of critter and nasty from crawling up your leg. Ticks are especially a problem in alot of the areas that soldiers train (and cowboys worked) so by wearing long sleeved shirts and tucking their pants into their boots it limits the area of skin exposed to ticks.





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Tuesday, January 2, 2007 5:18 AM (P)

Happy New Year, y'all!. Yes, I am almost a day late...sorry, been offline since last night. I hope everyone had a safe one!

FlatTop, looks like the XO answered the question already (thanks, BWTP!). I like the boots in that link...might look at those now!
When we suggested the lace-up boots, we were thinking modern military and price...as those boots are cheaper...but if you are wanting to spend the coin, then almost any of the boots in the link provided by BWTP would work wonderfully. Remember, think Brown!

And yes, we will be wearing the pants tucked into the boots.

Off again...I'll be back at work tomorrow, so I'll be in here at least every now and then!

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Tuesday, January 2, 2007 11:20 AM (P)

Tristan- I sent you a PM, but the board kept logging me out, so I have no idea if you got it or not

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Tuesday, January 2, 2007 2:09 PM (P)

That's right 76th, tuck in those pants legs. This unit, like all military units, will dress their boots (thats tuck the pants legs into the boots for you cake eating civilians).



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Tuesday, January 2, 2007 2:51 PM (P)

Morning, 76th!
Hope everyone is safe and had a good time.

WickedWren, I did NOT receive a PM from you. Try tristan71@cableone.net. That's my direct email...a bit more reliable than the PM's.

Morning, BrownCoat1! Keep in mind that the Colonel is also a cake-eating civilian.

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Tuesday, January 2, 2007 4:28 PM (P)

Evil, naughty PM's. Just shot you an email from my gmail account.

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Tuesday, January 2, 2007 4:54 PM (P)

Thank you, WickedWren...received and replied!
That email is usually the best way to get in touch with me...unless, of course, you knock on my front door.

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Tuesday, January 2, 2007 5:33 PM (P)

Forgive me, I'm so new here I'm green, but I have some questions...
My hubby has been a gamer for ages past and has been to several cons and since my Ma just moved to Georgia we'd thought we'd try for Dragon Con, so when I saw something about a Browncoat march, I got all excited, but then saw all the stuff about uniformity I was a bit put off. It's good that ya'll are so enthused about dressin' the part but isn't being an Independant all about being anti-uniformity?
My hubby still wants to march and show his support for the best show on Earth but do you have to wear a uniform? Can you march as another
character?

Is there anything else I should know?
BE KIND TO THE NEWBIE!

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Tuesday, January 2, 2007 5:45 PM (P)

Iremist, first off, welcome to the 'Verse! Or at least to FFF.net. Glad to see you here!

No, to march in the parade, you do not have to be a member of the 76th. If you'll contact WickedWren (she posted a few lines up...clink on her screen name, and you'll be able to send her a private message) and she'll fill you in on the marching.
The 76th was created to represent a Batallion of Independent soldiers, therefore we are striving for maximum uniformity. This is the first time there will be an organized group of Independent soliders at D*C. You do not have to join to march in the parade...feel free to be whoever you'd like to be! I dressed as Mal last year, and most of the rest of the BDH's were represented; some several times over.

I hope that settles your fears. The 76th is an organized group with requirements to march as a member. The SouthEastern BrownCoats are the ones to contact if you are interested in marching in the parade as anyone else.

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Tuesday, January 2, 2007 5:47 PM (P)

Thoughts on Boots;

My favorate Civil War Sutler has some excellent and inexpensive boots you can see at
http://www.blockaderunner.com/Catalog/catpg14a.html

Note that they are also carrying WWII GI repros at a very reasonable price. If curious, scroll to

WW II G.I. DOUBLE BUCKLE BOOTS

I have several pairs of boots, including high-quality knee-high russet (light brown) set which is pricey - $220 - but you've rarely seen this quality.
Source for those interested is "Fall Creek Sutlery" at
http://www.fcsutler.com/fcshoes.asp

The russet are special order.
Fall Creek also carries a full line of 'boot grease'.

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Tuesday, January 2, 2007 8:24 PM (P)

Don't you worry now, Iremist. There are plenty of non-76ers that march in the parade. The guy last year dressed as Wash with the spike through his chest was pretty damn funny.

Hell, I have a picture of a Mal in his pretty floral bonnet.

The idea is to come out and have fun! The 76th won't ignore you, just 'cause you're one of THOSE.



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Tuesday, January 2, 2007 9:07 PM (P)

Iremist- I sent you a PM, don't know if you got it. Apparently the board has taken a dislike to me sending PM's, even though I seem to get them just fine. So if you want to drop me a line with your email I'm at
serenityr AT gmail DOT com

I'm now done with the slight thread highjack...

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Tuesday, January 2, 2007 9:28 PM (P)

WickedWren, I want to know what you did to FFF.net that you can't send PM's anymore!

Iremist, I should have said what Boomer stated...nobody will ignore you if you don't march with the 76th. We are, after all, Browncoats! Just decided to band together is all.

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Tuesday, January 2, 2007 10:02 PM (P)

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Tuesday, January 2, 2007 10:05 PM (P)

Tsk, tsk, tsk! I can see why you can't PM now!

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Tuesday, January 2, 2007 11:33 PM (P)

Do you think flowers and chocolates might win me back my PM ability? Or do I need to figure out how to digitize Nathan and send him in to beg on my behalf?

OK, really done with the thread highjacking. Must find food.

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