I HATE AMERICA!

POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Thursday, February 1, 2007 10:35
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HERO

Monday, January 29, 2007 8:58 PM

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Originally posted by rue:
Was the previous post fueled by alcohol?

Coke Zero...

H

THOLO

Monday, January 29, 2007 9:01 PM

hehehe, aint americans, crack me up. you realize you wouldnt be able to say that in any other country. hahhaaha

if you dont love your country the get out. be happy and move on. but the problem is you dont want to you would rather say and bad mouth it. cause you can, go somewhere else where you think you can bash the country and see what it gets you!

we will always have our differances, thats what we are about, but we should stand united in our country, that is what makes up mighty.

before 9/11, we have differances in the election and such, but right after 9/11, we put that aside and came together like we have always done. if you dont want to stand with us they go away, but dont stand in our home field and cuss us. that wont work, people can turn on you and will.

think of it like a high school football game, whos side are you on?? dont be a visitor and sit in the home stands and shout for the other team! hehe not excpet the response you are going to get.

so back to my first reply, GET OUT!!! go live in any other country you think you might be happy in!

GoodBye
God Bless the USA

Keep Flying!!

THOLO

Monday, January 29, 2007 9:02 PM

hehehe, aint americans, crack me up. you realize you wouldnt be able to say that in any other country. hahhaaha

if you dont love your country the get out. be happy and move on. but the problem is you dont want to you would rather say and bad mouth it. cause you can, go somewhere else where you think you can bash the country and see what it gets you!

we will always have our differances, thats what we are about, but we should stand united in our country, that is what makes up mighty.

before 9/11, we have differances in the election and such, but right after 9/11, we put that aside and came together like we have always done. if you dont want to stand with us they go away, but dont stand in our home field and cuss us. that wont work, people can turn on you and will.

think of it like a high school football game, whos side are you on?? dont be a visitor and sit in the home stands and shout for the other team! hehe not excpet the response you are going to get.

so back to my first reply, GET OUT!!! go live in any other country you think you might be happy in!

GoodBye
God Bless the USA

Keep Flying!!

CHRISISALL

Monday, January 29, 2007 9:14 PM

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Originally posted by ShinyEd:
THIS POST ABOVE MINE WAS WRITTEN BY A SMART-ASSED, KNOW-IT-ALL LITTLE PUNK PUKE!

THIS RUTTING PIECE OF GO SE HAS TO MOCK AND NIT-PICK EVERYONE AT FFF'S POSTS.....RUTTING ASSHOLE!

ShinyEd, don't feel that you have to over-do it...we all know you have issues. Peeps don't get riled up over nothing, okay, but you don't have to go off quite so hard to validate any of Rue's positions.

Moderating Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Monday, January 29, 2007 9:27 PM

@ ShinyEd:

Some of the old geezers here have been so brainwashed by their ex-Young Republican, old-money friends & relations, and mind-controlled up their asses through Rush Limbaugh's myriad of pro-Bush Administration websites ( disguised as drug-rehab fund raisers ) that they don't realize how much they might regret their zombie-like fanatism concerning phantom menaces someday when they grow up.

Turnabout is fair play Chrisisall

RUE

Monday, January 29, 2007 9:33 PM

I don't "love" America. Every day brings a new reason to cringe and a revelation of another self-created problem.

Is it a beacon? Well, you don't see Europeans thronging to the shores. Or the Chinese, Koreans, Japanese. The people who throng to the US are from abysmal places. So I guess the US has something to be proud of - it doesn't suck as badly as the worst of the worst. But then Europe could make the same claim. They have a thriving illegal immigrant problem as well.

That America could come so close to being a fascist state - if it isn't one already - under the complacent eye of its citizens - is truly an indication of the American spirit. Lies about WMD ? Never happened, and even if it did, it's all just part of the US's greatness. Spying on 1/10 of the entire US phone system? On US citizens and their financial transactions? On calls? Maintaining databases on political figures and everyday protestors? Warrantless searches. Unitary executive? No big deal. You have to lose freedom to fight for it, eh?

And then entrenched interests have been writing the legislation for over a decade. It's no longer "of, by and for the people". Well, what's good for business is good for America even if the middle class gets squeezed out of existence. So that makes it all right.

I'm waiting for the day when as a country people have hope again. Then I'll love Ameica.

CHRISISALL

Monday, January 29, 2007 9:48 PM

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Originally posted by rue:

I'm waiting for the day when as a country people have hope again. Then I'll love Ameica.

And right there 'they' will read this as you hate America. See, language escapes these dopes. Just words...like all that stuff on that "goddamn piece of paper", aka The Constitution. No need to pay attention to those words, either. This is the essence of what does disgust me about certain folks and groups in America.

Dopes, you may read this as "I hate America" if you wish...

You will anyway Chrisisall

FREMDFIRMA

Monday, January 29, 2007 9:58 PM

I think my previous thought sums it up as succinctly as possible.

"America: Great idea, terrible execution"

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

RUE

Monday, January 29, 2007 9:58 PM

Chris,isall

You made my day.

CHRISISALL

Monday, January 29, 2007 10:07 PM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

"America: Great idea, terrible execution"

-Frem

Personally, I would go with
"America: great idea, good execution generally, but too many loopholes for abuse of power, and covering up or 'spinning' of same"

Guess I'm having a good day Chrisisall

CARTOON

Monday, January 29, 2007 10:10 PM

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Originally posted by Hero:
One Republican, one Democrat. The exigencies of war require many sacrifices, including a little inconveniance of liberty today to ensure that liberty is around for all the tomorrows.

There were also severe limits on what (and when) the press could report anything related to the war.

I'm guessing that irritated Hitler (and a few licentious, civil liberitarians back home), but thankfully the majority of folks realized that there was a threat bigger than a temporarily stifled press.

Were that war fought today, The New York Times would be reporting that we were developing an atomic bomb, while CBS's 60 Minutes was knocking on Robert Oppenheimer's door, demanding an interview, and CNN would be incorporating segments from both Dr. Goebels and Tokyo Rose into their daily broadcasts, while both ABC & NBC nightly ran lists of casualities (sometimes daily in the thousands), and interviewed German and Japanese civilians who were suffering under the oppressive Allied bombings.

CHRISISALL

Monday, January 29, 2007 10:20 PM

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Originally posted by cartoon:

Were that war fought today, The New York Times would be reporting that we were developing an atomic bomb

Very funny...well, not really. It has to be rooted in reality to get a joke going, and we could not have had that whole war, such as it was, in today's time, so the points you're trying to make are pointless. Times change, and technology changes things too.
Wanna have that old "What if we had jets in WWII" discussion?

Surrounded by them Chrisisall

KHYRON

Monday, January 29, 2007 11:09 PM

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Originally posted by cartoon:
Were that war fought today,...

... the Bush administration would be in charge of the American campaign, and that means Hitler would win quite easily in the end.

The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.

KHYRON

Monday, January 29, 2007 11:15 PM

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Originally posted by cartoon:
Were that war fought today, ...

... America would invade Sweden instead of Germany, because it thought Sweden had WMDs.

The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.

FLETCH2

Monday, January 29, 2007 11:15 PM

We did have jets in WW2. We just didn't commit the Gloster Meteor to front line service because we didn't want to risk the engine falling into German hands. Analysis by the few folks that flew both Meteors and ME262's is that it would have been an interesting dogfight. The German plane had the better airframe and the British plane had better engines that you could over-run for longer without them blowing up or burning out.

KHYRON

Monday, January 29, 2007 11:17 PM

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Originally posted by cartoon:
Were that war fought today, ...

... France would side with Germany, just so that it wouldn't be on the same side as America.

The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.

CHRISISALL

Monday, January 29, 2007 11:17 PM

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Originally posted by cartoon:

Were that war fought today,

We would have tortured all those sick Nazi sunzabitches!

I hate these guys Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Monday, January 29, 2007 11:19 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch2:
We did have jets in WW2. We just didn't commit the Gloster Meteor to front line service because we didn't want to risk the engine falling into German hands. Analysis by the few folks that flew both Meteors and ME262's is that it would have been an interesting dogfight. The German plane had the better airframe and the British plane had better engines that you could over-run for longer without them blowing up or burning out.

So, how would it have affected the war if put into service?

Tell me what I don't know Chrisisall

ANTIMASON

Monday, January 29, 2007 11:43 PM

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Originally posted by Tholo:

if you dont love your country the get out. be happy and move on. but the problem is you dont want to you would rather say and bad mouth it.

constuctive criticism is part of maintaining a free republic; you admit yourself that we're passed that point

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we will always have our differances, thats what we are about, but we should stand united in our country, that is what makes up mighty.

if you love your country, protect it; quit protecting the system which is covertly destroying out nationality. if you think these international elitists care about american sovereignty and rights(under God), then youre mistaken.. and have overlooked the obvious push (NAFTA/UN/G8 etc)towards a global government

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before 9/11, we have differances in the election and such, but right after 9/11, we put that aside and came together like we have always done. if you dont want to stand with us they go away, but dont stand in our home field and cuss us. that wont work, people can turn on you and will.

how prophetic is that.. 9.11 was engineered for that very purpose; to usher in the New World Order, and the purging of the old world

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think of it like a high school football game, whos side are you on?? dont be a visitor and sit in the home stands and shout for the other team! hehe not excpet the response you are going to get.

youre either with the 'new' America, or your with the terrorists; that would explain the ongoing construction of FEMA concentration camps across America, in the event of 'the big one', or series of 'big ones', permantly ceasing our elected government, and ushering in the global police state that we're supposed to love out of patriotism

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so back to my first reply, GET OUT!!! go live in any other country you think you might be happy in!

GoodBye
God Bless the USA

you mean god bless Lucifer? ive got to leave, but take a look at our own capitol, which was literally designed around occult symbols(the washington obelisk, pentagram city layout etc)

CARTOON

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 12:25 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by cartoon:

Were that war fought today, The New York Times would be reporting that we were developing an atomic bomb
Very funny...well, not really. It has to be rooted in reality to get a joke going, and we could not have had that whole war, such as it was, in today's time, so the points you're trying to make are pointless. Times change, and technology changes things too.
Wanna have that old "What if we had jets in WWII" discussion?

You either missed the point of my post, or conveniently decided to ignore it.

Firstly, I was responding to Hero's post regarding the limitation of certain freedoms during war -- then mentioning that the press was also restricted (and rightfully so).

As Hero stated, "The exigencies of war require many sacrifices, including a little inconveniance of liberty today to ensure that liberty is around for all the tomorrows."

It's too bad the press of today haven't learned the lesson of history.

Secondly, the analogies were entirely accurate, (if not right on the mark), and all you would have to do is turn on any of those broadcast networks (or open The New York Times) on any given day to plainly discern as much. The press regularly reveals sensitive information, regardless of the lives it may cost. They unashamedly broadcast proganda produced by enemies of the United States. And they relish in reporting how many soldiers we've lost, and how many civilians have been inconvenienced, injured or killed by our actions.

As such, one doesn't have to surmise how the press may have acted indiscretely 65 years ago (if their liberties hadn't been curtailed at that time), when they are consistently doing so in the present.

Good effort at trying to misdirect everyone, though.

FREMDFIRMA

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 1:07 AM

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Wanna have that old "What if we had jets in WWII" discussion?

Umm, but we DID, they just sucked too bad to use in combat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-59_Airacomet

And maybe if the press hadn't covered for an administration deliberately and intentionally provoking an attack on pearl harbor, we wouldn't have been involved.

http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=408

As far as secrecy goes, our history of it's use has been idiotic at best, coverups of incompetence, stupidity, fraud and waste, with self-muzzling of the press under the guise of "National Security" - it amounts to a de-facto disenfranchisement of the american people AND their elected reps, because without factual, accurate information, how can decisions be made regarding such things ?

And don't even get me started on propaganda, given the fate of Jeff Gannon and Talon News Service, or the MILLIONS of my tax dollars poured into military propaganda efforts to lie to us and get us to shovel even more money into the black pit of the DoD budget.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Lincoln_Group

Don't play that "National Security" bullshit on me, it was bullshit when Lincoln used it, and it's bullshit now.

You rightwingnuts are just pissed because THIS TIME, the lies that led us into a futile war were handily shredded by a vigilant press IN SPITE of propaganda efforts and attempts to muzzle the media.

Cause now the "media" isn't just Hearst and Murdoch and easily-bought big boys, thanks to the internet the "media" is all of us, any one of us - and while fact checking your info is more important than ever, anyone reasonably competent can poke holes in government lies now.

No war we've been involved in since the revolution has begun with anything but lies, and this one is no damned different.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

CITIZEN

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 1:48 AM

The idea that the New York times would be reporting on developing of Nuclear Weapons is merely the symptom of a mind that can't quite grasp reality.

There's such a thing as state secrets you know. Military journalism of today is not much different to what it was during the Second World War, save for the technology of the time. Newspapers carried up to date information on battles, how do people think they got that information, ESP? But if you haven't got video cameras and TV's having videoed TV reports is a little bit on the hard side.

So, are the latest military technologies in the New York times? What are they? Oh that's right, we don't know, because they're secret. Kinda like the Manhatten project was.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

THOLO

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 3:37 AM

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Originally posted by antimason:
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Originally posted by Tholo:

if you dont love your country the get out. be happy and move on. but the problem is you dont want to you would rather say and bad mouth it.

constuctive criticism is part of maintaining a free republic; you admit yourself that we're passed that point

there is no constructive criticism in the statement "i hate america"

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we will always have our differances, thats what we are about, but we should stand united in our country, that is what makes up mighty.

if you love your country, protect it; quit protecting the system which is covertly destroying out nationality. if you think these international elitists care about american sovereignty and rights(under God), then youre mistaken.. and have overlooked the obvious push (NAFTA/UN/G8 etc)towards a global government

i dont like it either, i dont want a global government, but both sides of the isle are pushing that agenda bubba, dont point it at bush
or think that he came up with the idea, the UN has been in this country for years and i want them out and i think we should answer to them.

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before 9/11, we have differances in the election and such, but right after 9/11, we put that aside and came together like we have always done. if you dont want to stand with us they go away, but dont stand in our home field and cuss us. that wont work, people can turn on you and will.

how prophetic is that.. 9.11 was engineered for that very purpose; to usher in the New World Order, and the purging of the old world

911 was to see if we would divide, but we didnt and we will not, no matter how many times the enemy thinks they can get us too. like i said we will have differances, but when you dont love your country, go.

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think of it like a high school football game, whos side are you on?? dont be a visitor and sit in the home stands and shout for the other team! hehe not excpet the response you are going to get.

youre either with the 'new' America, or your with the terrorists; that would explain the ongoing construction of FEMA concentration camps across America, in the event of 'the big one', or series of 'big ones', permantly ceasing our elected government, and ushering in the global police state that we're supposed to love out of patriotism

heheh you listen to coast to coast dont you, hahha

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so back to my first reply, GET OUT!!! go live in any other country you think you might be happy in!

GoodBye
God Bless the USA

you mean god bless Lucifer? ive got to leave, but take a look at our own capitol, which was literally designed around occult symbols(the washington obelisk, pentagram city layout etc)

occult you like "united we stand", in god we trust, life libery and the pursuit of happeness, oh come on so now the govt is built by devil worrishipers?? i take it you dont like the country you live in either? but oh how nice that you can go to whatever church you want, listen to whatever you want, read whatever you want, watch whatever you want, drive where ever you want without papers into each state, there are no slaves, (which is another story), no guard towers in you downtown area, no police busting in your door for NO reason (i know they do with cause and 99% they were right, drugs and etc. but not just cause they feel like it to take you family from you, your gold, NAZI's did that who loved the occult by the way)sounds like we have a really bad country, maybe hillary clinton will fix all that for you. maybe we need to pull out of iraq and then we can have guard towers downtown, that must be what everybody wants. flatten DC and then we can put up a mosk(sp, slow fingers) would that make you all america haters happy, i bet it would. well i will fight for what i have now and deal with you wackos on a 1 on 1. cause america brings out the best in me and i will do my best to defend her as long as i live.

God Bless America

Keep Flying!!

ANTIMASON

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 8:04 AM

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posted by Tholo-
i dont like it either, i dont want a global government, but both sides of the isle are pushing that agenda bubba, dont point it at bush
or think that he came up with the idea, the UN has been in this country for years and i want them out and i think we should answer to them.

dont misunderstand me, politics is completely unnatural and corrupt, so ill attribute blame liberally, my criteria is ones worldview, and whether theyre even trustworthy; the sad part is that most are faux-religious or secular humanist globalists, and you can hardly trust any of them.

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there is no constructive criticism in the statement "i hate america"

true.. but it was just a tag line. i realize "hate" is pretty strong, but i doubt anyone here hates America(n)s, or any other nationality for that matter; it was probably just intented to raise the blood-pressure of the establishment goosesteppers around here

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i dont like it either, i dont want a global government, but both sides of the isle are pushing that agenda bubba,

i never claimed otherwise

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dont point it at bush or think that he came up with the idea,

i do talk about Clinton, but hes not president anymore... and if (God help us) Hilary or McCain or some other globalist is elected, ill expose them aswell; but as for now, its Bush, and he was given a specific phase of the NWO agenda to complete, and ill oppose it for what it is, just as people have done with every previous administration or congress with deceitful alterior motives

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the UN has been in this country for years and i want them out

its a little late.. this is what your republican president said in 1991

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"We have before us the opportunity to forge for ourselves and for future generations a new world order, a world where the rule of law, not the rule of the jungle, governs the conduct of nations. When we are successful, and we will be, we have a real chance at this new world order, an order in which a credible United Nations can use its peacekeeping role to fulfill the promise and vision of the U.N.'s founders."

who were its founders, and what was their vision?? hmm... either way Bush cemented the bond a year later in an address to the UN saying

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"It is the sacred principles enshrined in the United Nations charter to which the American people will HENCEFORTH PLEDGE THEIR ALLEGIENCE."

will you tell me the constitution is still relevant among these people?

ww1 brought the league of nations, ww2 the UN, ww3 a global government; it just takes a little insight and wisdom to see the forest through the trees here

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occult you like "united we stand", in god we trust, life libery and the pursuit of happeness, oh come on so now the govt is built by devil worrishipers??

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2357448098911229950&q=nwo+free
masonry&hl=en
watch this video, and tell me thats a christian influence. we cant even get the complete ten commandments posted on government property

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i take it you dont like the country you live in either? but oh how nice that you can go to whatever church you want, listen to whatever you want, read whatever you want, watch whatever you want, drive where ever you want without papers into each state, there are no slaves, no guard towers in you downtown area, no police busting in your door for NO reason

those are privelages merely granted to you for the time being.. those rights are not God granted. no populace ever asked to be oppressed, it happened either behind their backs or with their unwitting consent; so freedom requires vigilance. but go on.. burry your head in the sand and see where we're at 5-10 yrs from now

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sounds like we have a really bad country, maybe hillary clinton will fix all that for you.

except shes a globalist shill aswell; look i actually recognize the corruption of both parties, which may still evade you, in light of your wrongly charachterized assumption about me

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 5:57 PM

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Originally posted by antimason:

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there is no constructive criticism in the statement "i hate america"

true.. but it was just a tag line. i realize "hate" is pretty strong, but i doubt anyone here hates America(n)s, or any other nationality for that matter; it was probably just intented to raise the blood-pressure of the establishment goosesteppers around here

You got it, Antimason, I used it to flush out the birds of ignorance so we could all see the crap fall from the sky

Got hit...EWWWWue Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 6:10 PM

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Originally posted by cartoon:
the analogies were entirely accurate, (if not right on the mark),
...one doesn't have to surmise how the press may have acted indiscretely 65 years ago (if their liberties hadn't been curtailed at that time), when they are consistently doing so in the present.

Good effort at trying to misdirect everyone, though.

We have such instant access to info now compared to 65 years ago, that your analogy is obtuse, at best.
*WARNING: IMMINENT AD-HOMINEM ATTACK!*
Cartoon, you are an abject moron. A flunkie for the terrorist agenda without even knowing it. You seek to legitimize illegal activities under the guise of necessary 'little inconveniances', and our enemies laugh with contentment knowing you and those like you do their work for them. You are a toadie for fascism, you bloated, supersticious biped. You make me sick, get out of my sight!

Oh, that's right...I can't actually see you...

...well..okay, stay where you are, just don't post a picture of yourself, or I may

Sick of God-fearing NeoCon lackey scum Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 6:16 PM

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Originally posted by citizen:

So, are the latest military technologies in the New York times? What are they? Oh that's right, we don't know, because they're secret. Kinda like the Manhattan project was.

Thanks for the back-up, dude. Right now I am too flustered for the capacity of rational thought...anger makes me temporarily lose about 50 IQ points, and has me fighting on Cartoon's level...

...which I guess makes it more fair for HIM....

Chrisisall

CARTOON

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 6:24 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
We have such instant access to info now compared to 65 years ago, that your analogy is obtuse, at best.

Like I said, certain folks can't see the trees for the forest.

Keep telling yourself whatever it takes for you to make sense of your posts.

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Cartoon, you are an abject moron. A flunkie for the terrorist agenda without even knowing it. You seek to legitimize illegal activities under the guise of necessary 'little inconveniances', and our enemies laugh with contentment knowing you and those like you do their work for them. You are a toadie for fascism, you bloated, supersticious biped. You make me sick, get out of my sight!

Oh, that's right...I can't actually see you......well..okay, stay where you are, just don't post a picture of yourself, or I may Sick of God-fearing NeoCon lackey scum Chrisisall

Oh, and BTW, nice reply. Very civil and well-thought, as usual. I owe you my sincerest gratitude for demonstrating more about your side of the debate than I ever could've with anything I could've said. Perhaps I'll have it engraved on a plaque to hang on my wall. It says so much about the mind from which it sprang. Now, I know I'm doing a good job. Thank you again.

CITIZEN

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 6:39 PM

Have you ever seen how smug and self satisfied serial killers can be, especially when winding up the good guys?

See above, it's a lot like that.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 6:52 PM

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Originally posted by cartoon:

Oh, and BTW, nice reply. Very civil and well-thought, as usual.

Do I detect sarcasm from the keys of a clown that can't see the trees for the pile of s**t that he's shoveling?
Just keep enjoying the blood that flows from the bodies of our kids to keep the kings on top of the mountain, you fool.

( Damn...I may have been too poetical there...he's gonna have a problem with the imagery...he'll probably go into a rant about how we don't have 'kings' in this country...Note to self: keep it literal when dealing with those of limited neural activity

)

Wordy Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 7:06 PM

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Originally posted by citizen:
Have you ever seen how smug and self satisfied serial killers can be, especially when winding up the good guys?

Funny thing is, he's trying to be witty *snicker* and doesn't reply to the accusations I tossed his way, so either he can't defend himself, he doesn't fully understand what I said, or he just doesn't care.
Since he made the lame attempt at some kind of response, albiet lacking in substance, I'll have to go with 'doesn't fully understand'.

V for Chrisisall

THOLO

Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:38 AM

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Originally posted by antimason:
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posted by Tholo-
i dont like it either, i dont want a global government, but both sides of the isle are pushing that agenda bubba, dont point it at bush
or think that he came up with the idea, the UN has been in this country for years and i want them out and i think we should answer to them.

dont misunderstand me, politics is completely unnatural and corrupt, so ill attribute blame liberally, my criteria is ones worldview, and whether theyre even trustworthy; the sad part is that most are faux-religious or secular humanist globalists, and you can hardly trust any of them.

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there is no constructive criticism in the statement "i hate america"

true.. but it was just a tag line. i realize "hate" is pretty strong, but i doubt anyone here hates America(n)s, or any other nationality for that matter; it was probably just intented to raise the blood-pressure of the establishment goosesteppers around here

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i dont like it either, i dont want a global government, but both sides of the isle are pushing that agenda bubba,

i never claimed otherwise,

no but you need to point that out and not just point bush's way. come on now fair and balanced.

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dont point it at bush or think that he came up with the idea,

the new clinton is what i am refering

i do talk about Clinton, but hes not president anymore... and if (God help us) Hilary or McCain or some other globalist is elected, ill expose them aswell; but as for now, its Bush, and he was given a specific phase of the NWO agenda to complete, and ill oppose it for what it is, just as people have done with every previous administration or congress with deceitful alterior motives

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the UN has been in this country for years and i want them out

its a little late.. this is what your republican president said in 1991
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"We have before us the opportunity to forge for ourselves and for future generations a new world order, a world where the rule of law, not the rule of the jungle, governs the conduct of nations. When we are successful, and we will be, we have a real chance at this new world order, an order in which a credible United Nations can use its peacekeeping role to fulfill the promise and vision of the U.N.'s founders."
who were its founders, and what was their vision?? hmm... either way Bush cemented the bond a year later in an address to the UN saying
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"It is the sacred principles enshrined in the United Nations charter to which the American people will HENCEFORTH PLEDGE THEIR ALLEGIENCE."
will you tell me the constitution is still relevant among these people?

ww1 brought the league of nations, ww2 the UN, ww3 a global government; it just takes a little insight and wisdom to see the forest through the trees here

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occult you like "united we stand", in god we trust, life libery and the pursuit of happeness, oh come on so now the govt is built by devil worrishipers??

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2357448098911229950&q=nwo+free
masonry&hl=en
watch this video, and tell me thats a christian influence. we cant even get the complete ten commandments posted on government property

oh crap i better not use a triangle or a star for my company logo, cause i would be included in that mess, heaven for bid i make a ton of money with that logo. hehe come on man.

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i take it you dont like the country you live in either? but oh how nice that you can go to whatever church you want, listen to whatever you want, read whatever you want, watch whatever you want, drive where ever you want without papers into each state, there are no slaves, no guard towers in you downtown area, no police busting in your door for NO reason

those are privelages merely granted to you for the time being.. those rights are not God granted. no populace ever asked to be oppressed, it happened either behind their backs or with their unwitting consent; so freedom requires vigilance. but go on.. bu

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CITIZEN

Wednesday, January 31, 2007 7:26 PM

No offence, but if you're going to mock people with just two word answers can you keep the post to just those two, really long extraneous quotes are tiresome.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

CHRISISALL

Wednesday, January 31, 2007 10:02 PM

*Dances the dance of joy*

I shut Cartoon up! Ha ha! That ponce!

(Hey....I hope he's not cryin' or nuthin'....)

Suddenly fluffy Chrisisall

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, February 1, 2007 6:52 AM

Hey Antimason....

It's scary how much you and I think alike. Don't you find that it's kinda hard to enjoy yourself most of the time though. Sometimes I'd like to take the blue pill and taste steak again (and have a 4 hour erection!)

When the facist thought police come to erase us I hope we get a chance to salute each other in the Ministry of Love before we disappear forever.

You do realize that by posting thoughts like these here, we have pretty much signed our own death warrants if it's half as bad as we believe it to be..........

btw.. does anyone else think Tohlo should lay off the Soma and quit blowing Big Brother?

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack

FREMDFIRMA

Thursday, February 1, 2007 10:35 AM

Heh, he should go back to quietly munching on his soylent green, you ask me...

As far as when defying the establishment comes back to haunt folks like us ?
To quote King Leonidas - "Molon Labe!"

-Frem

"They're coming to take me away, ha ha, they're coming to take me away...

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