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SAB39

Saturday, March 31, 2007 1:03 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by WackyNephew:
Quote:
Originally posted by FlatTop:
Maybe some of the Bonanzai will lend us a hand now to help push /somebody/ (us) past Xena? Hey they're western, we're western...

Can you imagine how many votes that would generate for both? Just enough to get us all even. I'd like to see the voting if we were all neck and neck. I'm talking ludicrous numbers here. Then it would really be a fair contest.

I posted on the Bonanza forum congratulating them on a good fight and mentioning that our little show has western elements and they might like it. You can see the post (sans formatting) here: http://bonanzaworld.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-21587-p-7.html although to see it properly formatted it seems an account on the site is required. The first half-paragraph is a quote from one of their members earlier in the thread, but you can't tell that on the archive page.

Let's see if that helps us at all :)

WACKYNEPHEW

Saturday, March 31, 2007 1:50 AM

Vump from work....

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SAB39

Saturday, March 31, 2007 2:18 AM

Aww. Just got this response to my post on bonanzaworld, from Ellen:

"Hey, sab39 - please pass on to the other Browncoats our congratulations. Hopefully a little banter doesn't offend anyone.

It's really great that there are so many fan communities out there - something for everyone!"

Nice of them :)

LEADB

Saturday, March 31, 2007 2:21 AM

Top 10 + BSG
title total dayDelta aveMar1 aveJan1
Xena 267192 2,803 1,437 1,059
Firefly 210283 2,359 1,362 1,177
Bonanza 208666 1,101 869 770
Farscape 110196 416 304 250
Gunsmoke 109851 619 551 453
Nikita 108424 192 163 163
X-Files 84080 459 339 331
Lexx 77180 359 323 305
Roswell 70748 291 215 186
QaFolk 63084 79 59 62
BstarG 57694 873 595 546

Top 40 of the nominations...
title Total dayDelta
Highway to Heaven 11579 234
The L Word 11566 72
CSI Miami 10223 95
Bleak House 9238 9
Dark Shadows (1966) 8753 128
The West Wing 7995 12
Wagon Train 7816 18
Space: 1999 5965 56
The Rookies 5688 0
Lancer 5288 46
Grey's Anatomy 4549 28
Emergency 3904 44
The Avengers 3658 20
The Professionals (1977) 3512 72
Road to Avonlea 3307 0
The Waltons 3157 24
Heroes 3104 41
24 2821 31
Barney Miller 2728 5
Law And Order Special Victims Unit 2616 22
Futurama 2589 16
Pinky and the Brain 2438 19
Maverick 2433 51
Supernatural 2421 25
In the Heat of the Night (1988) 2384 23
Lost 2133 5
Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood 2109 38
I Love Lucy 2031 8
The Big Valley 1935 11
Big Wolf on Campus 1832 9

Highway to Heaven has finally popped on top of the nominations; they continue to make a credible run for the top40.

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FLATTOP

Saturday, March 31, 2007 2:27 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Causal:
Just a thought--maybe we could try shuffling the name of the thread around. When you're used to seeing similarly named threads, you just stop seein' 'em, if you take my meaning. E.g., I'm not one of the Imponderablers, so I hardly even notice their threads. Maybe if we mixed things up on that front, we'd recruit some more. Also, adding a line to your signature about voting for Firefly might raise awareness.

I'm definitely giving it some thought... Problem is, the one time I changed the name completely, even I had trouble finding it!

Hmmm, perhaps "Xena kicks Firefly's tookus" or some such... That should generate a few hits

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DERANGEDMILK

Saturday, March 31, 2007 3:18 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by FlatTop:
I'm definitely giving it some thought... Problem is, the one time I changed the name completely, even I had trouble finding it!
Hmmm, perhaps "Xena kicks Firefly's tookus" or some such... That should generate a few hits

Yea...that might get you a little attention. Might get you labelled a troll too.
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BELCARRAN

Saturday, March 31, 2007 4:55 AM

Quote:
Maybe some of the Bonanzai will lend us a hand now to help push /somebody/ (us) past Xena? Hey they're western, we're western..
Can you imagine how many votes that would generate for both? Just enough to get us all even. I'd like to see the voting if we were all neck and neck. I'm talking ludicrous numbers here. Then it would really be a fair contest.
I posted on the Bonanza forum congratulating them on a good fight and mentioning that our little show has western elements and they might like it.

If you read the whole page on the Bonanza site, you'll find that a lot of the westerns are voting as a block, and that even Combat! is part of that group. The Bonanzai are even voting for shows that have nothing to do with Bonanza except that old cast members appear in them.
I don't understand why Joss's fans aren't voting for all of his shows every time they vote. Buffy, at least, is a match for Firefly's excellence, even if Angel fell a little short IMHO. Can you imagine a Whedon/BSG/Lexx/ etc. alliance?

FEDEXXX

Saturday, March 31, 2007 6:19 AM

Thank you for the support! By the way, I forgot. Did I mention the deal with Roswell? They are voting for you too, they joined our block.
Perhaps someone could mention the block on the Whedon site?

LEADB

Saturday, March 31, 2007 10:34 AM

A bump.

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Saturday, March 31, 2007 10:35 AM

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Originally posted by fedexxx:
Thank you for the support! By the way, I forgot. Did I mention the deal with Roswell? They are voting for you too, they joined our block.
Perhaps someone could mention the block on the Whedon site?

That's right kindly of them! Regrettably, I can do nothing more for them since I've been voting for 'em ever since I bought the series box set.

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Saturday, March 31, 2007 10:38 AM

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Originally posted by Belcarran:

If you read the whole page on the Bonanza site, you'll find that a lot of the westerns are voting as a block, and that even Combat! is part of that group. The Bonanzai are even voting for shows that have nothing to do with Bonanza except that old cast members appear in them.
I don't understand why Joss's fans aren't voting for all of his shows every time they vote. Buffy, at least, is a match for Firefly's excellence, even if Angel fell a little short IMHO. Can you imagine a Whedon/BSG/Lexx/ etc. alliance?

Already vote for Buffy. This is likely to be a bit of a problem as my suspicions are there's aleady a goodly bit of cross voting going on simply because folks who -do- like Whedon, etc. already are cross voting.

Edit: To clarify, I would not by any means discourage you from asking Buffy (et. al.) from voting FF; it can't hurt. What can be problematic is they might start voting FF and not see much -additional- reciprocation. For instance, I cannot vote "more" for Buffy than I already am. The only way to "show" how much FF cross votes they are getting is if we were to -effectively- get all the FF fans to skip a day of votes. That takes a fair bit of effort and coordination. In any case, the important part is not to set expecations too high and to be trusting when folks say they are cross voting. I'll be happy to be an "example" Buffy cross voter if the question ever arises.

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FLATTOP

Saturday, March 31, 2007 11:53 AM

It's 0800 do you know where your bump is?

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JONGSSTRAW

Saturday, March 31, 2007 11:59 AM

Frankly speaking, although I'm very happy to see us move into the #2 spot, I'm just a bit perplexed & disappointed as to why we haven't done infinitely better all these months. I mean there's 25,000 folks here at FFF, and dozens of other sites with their loyal thousands, and ...what...millions of fans in general?....Plus, factor in the infectious hunger we all share to bring this back, a joyful pain that lives with us, on some level, every day of our lives...Well, I don't know...I know I voted a few hundred times, and every time I do the math, ala River, I keep thinking we should be getting 5,000-10,000 votes per day. I'm certainly not even a old-time or organization-affiliated 'coat...just a relatively recent fan....so let's all get on the ball! Hut one, Hut two.

CAUSAL

Saturday, March 31, 2007 1:24 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Belcarran:
I don't understand why Joss's fans aren't voting for all of his shows every time they vote. Buffy, at least, is a match for Firefly's excellence, even if Angel fell a little short IMHO. Can you imagine a Whedon/BSG/Lexx/ etc. alliance?

Has someone broached this at Whedonesque or one of the Buffy boards?

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CAUSAL

Saturday, March 31, 2007 1:28 PM

Early returns for yesterday:

Xena: 1518 votes to 268710
Firefly: 1681 votes to 211964

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JORUNE

Saturday, March 31, 2007 1:33 PM

Bumping before heading outdoors, flying high towards that Hall Of Power.

LEADB

Saturday, March 31, 2007 2:28 PM

Top 10 + BSG

title total dayDelta aveMar1 aveJan1
title total dayDelta aveMar1 aveJan1
Xena____ 268710 1,518 1,440 1,064
Firefly___ 211964 1,681 1,373 1,183
Bonanza_ 209705 1,039 875 773
Farscape_ 110529 333 305 251
Gunsmoke 110449 598 552 455
Nikita____ 108605 181 163 163
X-Files___ 84460 380 341 331
Lexx_____ 77547 367 325 306
Roswell___ 71006 258 216 186
QaFolk___ 63128 44 58 62
BstarG___ 58396 702 599 548

Big fall back; but FF and Bonanza are running solidly ahead of average, as is BsG.

FF gathered more votes an Xena today; a step in the right direction.

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DERANGEDMILK

Saturday, March 31, 2007 2:44 PM

To quote a little green man with sunglasses from a cheesy TV movie..."Hooooray for our side." (Spaced Invaders anyone?)
-e

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JLIN

Saturday, March 31, 2007 3:00 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by leadb:
Top 10 + BSG

title total dayDelta aveMar1 aveJan1
title total dayDelta aveMar1 aveJan1
Xena____ 268710 1,518 1,440 1,064
Firefly___ 211964 1,681 1,373 1,183
Bonanza_ 209705 1,039 875 773
Farscape_ 110529 333 305 251
Gunsmoke 110449 598 552 455
Nikita____ 108605 181 163 163
X-Files___ 84460 380 341 331
Lexx_____ 77547 367 325 306
Roswell___ 71006 258 216 186
QaFolk___ 63128 44 58 62
BstarG___ 58396 702 599 548

Big fall back; but FF and Bonanza are running solidly ahead of average, as is BsG.

FF gathered more votes an Xena today; a step in the right direction.

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It's good to know that 1,681 is now considered a lower voting amount.

Keep voting, let's make 2,000 our average!

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SAB39

Saturday, March 31, 2007 3:49 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by leadb:
Already vote for Buffy. This is likely to be a bit of a problem as my suspicions are there's aleady a goodly bit of cross voting going on simply because folks who -do- like Whedon, etc. already are cross voting.

Buffy will move up to #13 tomorrow, past Laramie (which seems to be one of the Bonanzai's shows) if trends continue. And BSG is only a few days away from #11.

(Speaking as someone who already votes a Joss trifecta plus BSG)

(Sorry Lexx folks, I only saw your show a few times and it was just too weird to grab my interest. Like an adult sci-fi version of Spongebob Squarepants except with cleavage...)

FLYVOTE

Saturday, March 31, 2007 4:07 PM

On the Bonanza board someone stated:

Quote:
It's a great show about the love of a father and his three sons, their affection for each other and their determination to do what is right by all the different people they meet. Four admirable characters.

They didn't say that Bonanza was a show set in 1860-something on a Ranch with Cowboys and Horses. The appeal of Bonanza is the relationships. The love of family.

Firefly could be described as Cowboys in Space. But in the same vein, it is also about a "father and his three sons" in the way that Mal has his crew as a family.

Bonanza's family (dad and sons) deals with the loss and lack of a mother. The father was hurt by the loss of the wife and does all that he can to raise his boys well in the world that they live in. Any one Bonanza show might be written as "today lets shoe a horse", but the show always involves the interplay between brothers and their father.

The Firefly family has many avenues of relationships. But it too can be boiled down to doing the best that you can for your family. Firefly is a different generation than
Bonanza, but many of the same values are there in the hearts of the characters. Firefly characters struggle to survive, and have hard times on their "Ponderosa". But they do it together as a family, even if they all really don't think of themselves as a family.

A Bonanza fan that can't get themselves beyond the idea of "space cowboys" will probably never try watching Firefly. I personally see no appeal in stories only about cowboys and horses, but I do enjoy catching a Bonanza episode every now and then. Bonanza fans should give Firefly a chance. For $10-20 they can pick up the Firefly series and discover why a 14 episode TV show just moved by them in the TV_Vote poll - not because of lasers and spaceships, but because of the struggles to keep a family together.

(Hey sab39 - why don't you copy this to the Bonanza board. I doubt that any Bonanzites will drop their votes for for BZ to vote for Firefly, but perhaps some of them will at least appreciate why we Browncoats are Firefly fans!)

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Saturday, March 31, 2007 4:17 PM

/\ Well said.
And I hope folks don't laugh too hard when I suggest they catch a bit of Bonanza; enough to learn the characters. It is pretty decent.

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Saturday, March 31, 2007 4:39 PM

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Originally posted by FlyVote:
(Hey sab39 - why don't you copy this to the Bonanza board. I doubt that any Bonanzites will drop their votes for for BZ to vote for Firefly, but perhaps some of them will at least appreciate why we Browncoats are Firefly fans!)

Done :)

CAUSAL

Saturday, March 31, 2007 4:50 PM

bump

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Saturday, March 31, 2007 4:55 PM

I caught a few episodes of Bonanza in the 60s (never was much of a TV viewer, have only seen Firefly on DVD). Pretty decent for the time. But if you check IMDB you find that the people working in front of, and behind, the cameras were a who's who of 1960s film making. Robert Altman directed eight episodes, and Deforrest Kelly did a guest star appearance. Was hoping to find that Joss's dad or granddad wrote an episode or two, but no luck.

Bonanza is, oh, about three generations (in terms of writing and film techniques)older than Firefly. For its day, it was cutting edge. If done today it would be more like, well, maybe not Deadwood, but certainly a lot edgier and darker than Bonanza as we know it. A lot like Firefly, without the spaceships. Hmmm, here's an interesting challenge for a fanfic author. Take the script for a Bonanza episode, and rewrite it in Firefly style. Hell, you could probably do a while Firefly fanfic series using the Bonanza setup.

As has been pointed out, the two shows have a lot in common.

WACKYNEPHEW

Saturday, March 31, 2007 5:00 PM

So much for them letting up on the voting...This was emailed to me from a friend and is from the head voting lady at one of the Xena groups:

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Well, that was a very short retirement We had 1518 votes yesterday and since many decided they wanted to try for the goal of 500,000, I'm baaaack!

I understand one of the fan posters over at the FF site flamed Xena and followers. Seems the only fans Xena has are connected to an underground Lesbian faction. The show really sucked and it was stupid, lame, absurd with bad acting, bad history, bad everything. He said it had to be on Lesbian web sites all over the world...not just Xena fandom. And to quote "I don't recall Xena generating any huge numbers in ratings when it was on TV, but over time the Gay coalition really held this show close to their bosom, especially that young stick-wielding blonde sidekick...if so, we are hopelessly outnumbered" . I think he is pretty funny, actually.

Hopefully that is only one opinion over there...not a nice thing to say about our show and our girls, the acting part that is.

Firefly is at 211,964 with 1681 votes turned in yesterday. We are still 56,746 votes ahead of them. I understand their goal is to become number one since we showed them up in the 2000 daily vote game, and they feel our votes are now going to drop since we no longer have a goal

So, all said and done, we will survive! A few people have given stats on how long it will take us to reach 500,000 and it is about 4 or 5 months. So, if you have nothing better to do...pop in a vote or two...or more.

Battle On for Xena, Lucy and Renee!!!

Mac, your friendly neighborhood VTL...again :o

They never seem to read the posts that congratulate them or show admiration for their accomplishment. Oh well. This is gonna be fun!! Time for some serious mobilization. We need to contact every Browncoat group in the world and get them on board and voting.Who can you contact?

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FLYVOTE

Saturday, March 31, 2007 5:31 PM

This board (FFF.net) does have some Xena FANS. But anything good we say about Xena fans is ignored. Anything bad IS NOT the general opinion of all of us, but only a select few. That's too bad. It seems as if the head voter twists what we say to suit her needs.

Quote:
from Xena fan Maylith posted here on FFF.net a while back:
I think we all harbor some secret love of a tv show....I may not understand the love for Bonanza some have, but I respect it. I also respect the love Firefly fans have for their show. It's because of you guys that Serenity was made, and it was a great addition to the Firefly experience.

So, while I am glad Xena got to the TV-Vote Hall of Fame, I hope to see Firefly join us there soon and Bonanza after that....

Maylith is a fair and level-headed Xena fan, and I applaud her position and her words. I applaud her devotion to her voting efforts.

If the only thing that makes the Xenites vote is a post from someone that doesn't like Xena, well there are a lot. Some people will think that Xena sucks. Some people will be middle-of-the-road, some will love it. Not surprising that someone on this board doesn't like Xena, after all this isn't a Xena board.

My previous post about Bonanza was copied in full to the Bonanza board. I stand by those words, and my position about Bonanza, even if some BZ fans sling a little mud. I'm a Browncoat, I can take it.

I really doubt that this post will be copied to the email list that the Xenites see. After all, I'm saying something nice about a Xena fan. I'm sure that the words "Xena sucks" above will be twisted into a "every Firefly fan just said that Xena sucks" just to get Xenites angry. That's too bad. It's a disservice to the Xenites.

Meanwhile next time I catch a Xena rerun, I'll be stuck thinking about this behavior. Is Xena that thin skinned? I didn't think so.

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Saturday, March 31, 2007 5:44 PM

Perhaps someone here should go join the Xena board in question like I did with Bonanza and communicate the respect that Browncoats in general have for our competitors.

I've never even seen Xena, and ShinyEd's post annoyed me. I don't blame Xena fans for being annoyed about it. I agree that it would be nicer if a more balanced view of our comments would be reported, but I don't think it's necessarily malice or deliberately twisting our words that leads that not to happen, just miscommunication. If only a minority of our viewpoint is being communicated, we should take it on ourselves to communicate the rest. We may have a "right" to be upset about the way we're being presented, but we also have the ability to improve the situation...

FLATTOP

Saturday, March 31, 2007 6:28 PM

Today's Numbers

Total Votes (Range to show)
Xena(1): 268,710 (56,746)
Firefly(2): 211,964 (0)

Votes Gained Today (Wk.Avg.) Avg.
Xena(1): 1,518 (1,619) 797
…Best Day (March 30, 2007): 2,803 Record for all time best!
Firefly(2): 1,681 (1,658) 961
...Consecutive days > 1,500: 5
…Best Day (March 30, 2007): 2,359

Closure Rate Today (Wk.Avg.) Avg.
Xena(1): 163 (39) 164

Days to Intercept Today (Wk.Avg.) Avg.
Xena(1): 348 (1,455) 346

Looks like we've taken a step back to breathe a bit... Anyone got a cigarette?

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CAUSAL

Saturday, March 31, 2007 6:30 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by WackyNephew:
Well, that was a very short retirement We had 1518 votes yesterday and since many decided they wanted to try for the goal of 500,000, I'm baaaack!

I understand one of the fan posters over at the FF site flamed Xena and followers. Seems the only fans Xena has are connected to an underground Lesbian faction. The show really sucked and it was stupid, lame, absurd with bad acting, bad history, bad everything. He said it had to be on Lesbian web sites all over the world...not just Xena fandom. And to quote "I don't recall Xena generating any huge numbers in ratings when it was on TV, but over time the Gay coalition really held this show close to their bosom, especially that young stick-wielding blonde sidekick...if so, we are hopelessly outnumbered" . I think he is pretty funny, actually.

Hopefully that is only one opinion over there...not a nice thing to say about our show and our girls, the acting part that is.

Firefly is at 211,964 with 1681 votes turned in yesterday. We are still 56,746 votes ahead of them. I understand their goal is to become number one since we showed them up in the 2000 daily vote game, and they feel our votes are now going to drop since we no longer have a goal

So, all said and done, we will survive! A few people have given stats on how long it will take us to reach 500,000 and it is about 4 or 5 months. So, if you have nothing better to do...pop in a vote or two...or more.

Battle On for Xena, Lucy and Renee!!!

Mac, your friendly neighborhood VTL...again :o

Would this be the appropriate time to say, "I told you so?" Or might that be later?

Damn those trolls, damn them to Hades. They're giving the Xenites great propaganda.

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Saturday, March 31, 2007 6:43 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Causal:
Would this be the appropriate time to say, "I told you so?" Or might that be later?

Later, if they actually demonstrate they can sustain the numbers and only if we can't...

Quote:
Damn those trolls, damn them to Hades. They're giving the Xenites great propaganda.

Oh, they're going to the special hell...

CAUSAL

Saturday, March 31, 2007 6:53 PM

Although, when it comes to trolls, we seem to have nailed them down to a handful of truly persistent ones, and we seem to be getting better at ignoring them.

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Saturday, March 31, 2007 7:28 PM

I find it interesting to see so many new names on this thread (and when I say new, I mean since I last actively participated...the 76th are keeping me a bit busy)

The numbers of active voters (thanks to Flyvote you beautiful person) has soared during the past few months.

When I started voting (October last year), we were always discussing how to get more people involved. And it seems to have worked.

I try not to get discouraged when I see Xena's votes because they have been doing this (voting) for much longer than we have. During that time, I'm sure they have been able to reach many more fans than we have.

We just need to keep on convincing more and more Browncoats that this is worthwhile and fun.

Now for a bit of wishful thinking.... Wouldn't it be great if we could get Haken to compile a mailing list of all the registered members on this site, so we can send out an e-mail to every member requesting assistance?

One e-mail. One voting day. One major push and victory would be ours!

Wouldn't it be great if we can win at least one war?

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LEADB

Saturday, March 31, 2007 8:02 PM

Quote:

Quote:
Well, that was a very short retirement We had 1518 votes yesterday and since many decided they wanted to try for the goal of 500,000, I'm baaaack!

I understand one of the fan posters over at the FF site flamed Xena and followers. Seems the only fans Xena has are connected to an underground Lesbian faction. The show really sucked and it was stupid, lame, absurd with bad acting, bad history, bad everything. He said it had to be on Lesbian web sites all over the world...not just Xena fandom. And to quote "I don't recall Xena generating any huge numbers in ratings when it was on TV, but over time the Gay coalition really held this show close to their bosom, especially that young stick-wielding blonde sidekick...if so, we are hopelessly outnumbered" . I think he is pretty funny, actually.

Hopefully that is only one opinion over there...not a nice thing to say about our show and our girls, the acting part that is.

Firefly is at 211,964 with 1681 votes turned in yesterday. We are still 56,746 votes ahead of them. I understand their goal is to become number one since we showed them up in the 2000 daily vote game, and they feel our votes are now going to drop since we no longer have a goal

Folks,
Let's face it, the Xenites are determine to take what is said here, even if by a tiny minority, and use it for fuel.
I've said it before, I'll say it again; we need to work to our best and simply ignore what the Xenites might say of us. The only thing we can do that will affect their voting levels is to roll over and die. If we did, they might slow down their votes...until Bonanza or some some other series gets going.

Any of you who think Xena is going to roll over if we get close; and trust me, the Xena fans perceive us as close or they would not be "getting out the vote", they will fight to the end. Look at Bonanza... they did not roll over when we got close; they have an active fan base and pulled together. Did we scrape by, yes. Are Bonanza fans still pushing out near record numbers for the show? Yes. Do I expect them to drop back? Maybe... slowly or not.
Same with Xena,but multiply it times 2 or 3. They have a huge, dedicated fan base. -Someone- amongst them will always get inspired to keep the top spot. They will find a new goal, set it, pursue it vigorously. We can do no less.

Xena Fans:
To be clear; I respect your appreciation of your show. It happens to not be my cup of tea. Be clear on this, we intend to compete to the end. Someone once said, "May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

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Saturday, March 31, 2007 9:24 PM

Found another enclave of firefly TV_voters:
http://forums.prospero.com/foxfirefly/messages?msg=32889.571
I made a couple posts to say "hi".

And perhaps this was posted before; but if I did, I missed it:
http://whedonesque.com/comments/12841
It discusses Firefly's rise to #2 in the poll.

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CAUSAL

Saturday, March 31, 2007 9:42 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by leadb:
Folks,
Let's face it, the Xenites are determine to take what is said here, even if by a tiny minority, and use it for fuel.
I've said it before, I'll say it again; we need to work to our best and simply ignore what the Xenites might say of us. The only thing we can do that will affect their voting levels is to roll over and die. If we did, they might slow down their votes...until Bonanza or some some other series gets going.

Any of you who think Xena is going to roll over if we get close; and trust me, the Xena fans perceive us as close or they would not be "getting out the vote", they will fight to the end. Look at Bonanza... they did not roll over when we got close; they have an active fan base and pulled together. Did we scrape by, yes. Are Bonanza fans still pushing out near record numbers for the show? Yes. Do I expect them to drop back? Maybe... slowly or not.
Same with Xena,but multiply it times 2 or 3. They have a huge, dedicated fan base. -Someone- amongst them will always get inspired to keep the top spot. They will find a new goal, set it, pursue it vigorously. We can do no less.

Is now the time to say, "I told you so?"

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CAUSAL

Saturday, March 31, 2007 10:58 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by leadb:
And perhaps this was posted before; but if I did, I missed it:
http://whedonesque.com/comments/12841
It discusses Firefly's rise to #2 in the poll.

It discusses it yes: in mostly disparaging terms. Let's not forget: Firefly is the red-headed step-child of the Jossverse. Hell's bells: Buffy and Angel took place in the saem putative universe. We're the odd man out. Interestingly, they mostly say Firefly wasn't that good. So I'm thinking we're not going to get any love from them. (Though I take small consolation in the fact that we're number two.)

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CAUSAL

Sunday, April 1, 2007 12:49 AM

bump

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Sunday, April 1, 2007 1:44 AM

Quote:

Is now the time to say, "I told you so?"

Please do so you can stop asking that!!!

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CAUSAL

Sunday, April 1, 2007 1:57 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by leadb:
Quote:

Is now the time to say, "I told you so?"

Please do so you can stop asking that!!!

Oh, very well.

I told you so!

Ah...that feels better!

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STORMCAT

Sunday, April 1, 2007 2:36 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by WackyNephew:
So much for them letting up on the voting...This was emailed to me from a friend and is from the head voting lady at one of the Xena groups:
Quote:
Well, that was a very short retirement We had 1518 votes yesterday and since many decided they wanted to try for the goal of 500,000, I'm baaaack!

I understand one of the fan posters over at the FF site flamed Xena and followers. Seems the only fans Xena has are connected to an underground Lesbian faction. The show really sucked and it was stupid, lame, absurd with bad acting, bad history, bad everything. He said it had to be on Lesbian web sites all over the world...not just Xena fandom. And to quote "I don't recall Xena generating any huge numbers in ratings when it was on TV, but over time the Gay coalition really held this show close to their bosom, especially that young stick-wielding blonde sidekick...if so, we are hopelessly outnumbered" . I think he is pretty funny, actually.

Hopefully that is only one opinion over there...not a nice thing to say about our show and our girls, the acting part that is.

Firefly is at 211,964 with 1681 votes turned in yesterday. We are still 56,746 votes ahead of them. I understand their goal is to become number one since we showed them up in the 2000 daily vote game, and they feel our votes are now going to drop since we no longer have a goal

So, all said and done, we will survive! A few people have given stats on how long it will take us to reach 500,000 and it is about 4 or 5 months. So, if you have nothing better to do...pop in a vote or two...or more.

Battle On for Xena, Lucy and Renee!!!

Mac, your friendly neighborhood VTL...again :o

They never seem to read the posts that congratulate them or show admiration for their accomplishment. Oh well. This is gonna be fun!! Time for some serious mobilization. We need to contact every Browncoat group in the world and get them on board and voting.Who can you contact?

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You know I am a fan of both shows, vote for both shows, but someone(a mole) is sending an e-mail of a friend to you and then you post it it here? That was a letter posted on a e-mail list, a XENITE e-mail list so whom ever is the jerk that did that is really taking this sh!t too serious, but with that persons slam on Xena,calling us a lesbian underground was really frakked up. Lesibans did make the show popular and we are the FANDOM. They did notice, and I did tell them of all the crongrats to you all, and that just because a couple of Firefly fans are rude doesn't mean the rest of us are. You lost this person vote. I understand you wanting to get Firefly it's own hall of fame, and I am all for a little smack down, but someone is going too far. It's funny, you all are voting for Bonanza, now I will and with posting that letter I bet Xenites will too.

STORMCAT

Sunday, April 1, 2007 2:50 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by FlyVote:
This board (FFF.net) does have some Xena FANS. But anything good we say about Xena fans is ignored. Anything bad IS NOT the general opinion of all of us, but only a select few. That's too bad. It seems as if the head voter twists what we say to suit her needs.

Quote:
from Xena fan Maylith posted here on FFF.net a while back:
I think we all harbor some secret love of a tv show....I may not understand the love for Bonanza some have, but I respect it. I also respect the love Firefly fans have for their show. It's because of you guys that Serenity was made, and it was a great addition to the Firefly experience.

So, while I am glad Xena got to the TV-Vote Hall of Fame, I hope to see Firefly join us there soon and Bonanza after that....

Maylith is a fair and level-headed Xena fan, and I applaud her position and her words. I applaud her devotion to her voting efforts.

If the only thing that makes the Xenites vote is a post from someone that doesn't like Xena, well there are a lot. Some people will think that Xena sucks. Some people will be middle-of-the-road, some will love it. Not surprising that someone on this board doesn't like Xena, after all this isn't a Xena board.

My previous post about Bonanza was copied in full to the Bonanza board. I stand by those words, and my position about Bonanza, even if some BZ fans sling a little mud. I'm a Browncoat, I can take it.

I really doubt that this post will be copied to the email list that the Xenites see. After all, I'm saying something nice about a Xena fan. I'm sure that the words "Xena sucks" above will be twisted into a "every Firefly fan just said that Xena sucks" just to get Xenites angry. That's too bad. It's a disservice to the Xenites.

Meanwhile next time I catch a Xena rerun, I'll be stuck thinking about this behavior. Is Xena that thin skinned? I didn't think so.

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You are wrong, I have told the Xenites about all the good things you all say, but I did not tell them of the one Fireflys fans view of Xena, but someone who is passing the bad stuff off looks like they are turning around and passing stuff right back. I was trying to get a whole Xena/FF alliance together, but both sides don't want too, and that is fine. The voting is pointless, I'm not visiting Rich's site anymore to vote for anyone. The problem I have is the posting of letters meant for a Xena list, not a public message board, but a e-mail list for Xena fans, and it did not belong anywhere else but on that list.

CAUSAL

Sunday, April 1, 2007 3:54 AM

bump

Looks like it's getting bitter now...

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Sunday, April 1, 2007 3:55 AM

Quote:
Stormcat:
I was trying to get a whole Xena/FF alliance together, but both sides don't want too, and that is fine.

Well, it's a bit of oil and water problem; there's Xena fans who want it at the top of the charts, period. Understandable, but I doubt you will crack that; it is after all a Xena fandom.

Your loyalties got split on this matter; being a fan of both; it's hard to straddle two groups like this each with a clear desire to promote something, in this case a show. You seem to feel hurt; and I'm sorry that came to happen.

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Sunday, April 1, 2007 3:57 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Causal:
Quote:
Originally posted by leadb:
Quote:

Is now the time to say, "I told you so?"

Please do so you can stop asking that!!!

Oh, very well.

I told you so!

Ah...that feels better!

Phew! I was concerned you might burst!

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CAUSAL

Sunday, April 1, 2007 4:00 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by leadb:
Phew! I was concerned you might burst!

No bursting, I'm good!

This used to happen all the time in the military. I did intel analysis, and I'd make some prediction or other, only to get scoffed at. Only trouble was, when I was right, I could gloat. Cursed military bearing...

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Sunday, April 1, 2007 5:26 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by JLin:
Quote:
Originally posted by ShinyEd:
I dunno.......the Xena fans? : are they really fans of the show?...or is linked in somehow to the Lesbian underground? I don't recall Xena generating any huge numbers in ratings when it was on TV, but over time the Gay coalition really held this show close to their bosom, especially that young stick-wielding blonde sidekick....if so, we are hopelessly outnumbered.

come to think of it...that show REALLY SUCKED!!! It was stupid & lame & absurd...WHAT WAS THERE TO LIKE ABOUT IT? BAD ACTING, BAD HISTORY, BAD EVERYTHING?..YES, it MUST be on Lesbian web sites all over the world...not just Xena fandom.

If this is the case, maybe we should recommend that Xenites watch War Stories. All those scenes with Innara and the Counciler. That would get them voting for us...or at least they might be in their bunks.

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http://universalhd.com/Firefly/

I feel compelled to apologize if my statment was considered flaming another fandom. I was trying to make light of a more serious comment that I did not agree with. I suppose the joke would be lost on anyone who has not seen War Stories, so my apologies to the Xena lurkers on this thread.

My whole reason for voting is to get others to take notice of our show, increase the fandom, heck maybe watch some of the other shows (yes, I've been watching Bonanza

). I hope other fandoms are checking out Firefly even if they never vote for it.

Best of luck to everyone voting--may our show--I mean the best show win.

I just couldn't help myself.

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WACKYNEPHEW

Sunday, April 1, 2007 5:56 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by StormCat:

You know I am a fan of both shows, vote for both shows, but someone(a mole) is sending an e-mail of a friend to you and then you post it it here? That was a letter posted on a e-mail list, a XENITE e-mail list so whom ever is the jerk that did that is really taking this sh!t too serious...

First of all,one the purposes of that posting was to point out that: contrary to popular belief, Xena fans aren't going to let up on the voting. Not exactly a state secret. The other purpose was to point out what a shame it is to have all of us judged by one negative post.That was it. Harmless.If you read the subsiquent posts to that one you'll see that the point was reinforced. No flaming, just a commentary on how things are.

As always, the only one making a big deal out of something like this is you, and I'm sick of all your ranting and raving everytime someone says something that you view as a slight to your favorite show. This is a Firefly board!

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SILVARA

Sunday, April 1, 2007 8:22 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by sab39:
I've never even seen Xena,

If you want to you can just check out some episodes at:

http://www.dailymotion.com/SpikeBad/video/x1ecas_xena-1x22-callisto-13

This competition also got me interested in Firefly, which I had never heard of. Is there a place to take a look at some clips from the show?

Looking forward to more friendly competition ;)

JORUNE

Sunday, April 1, 2007 11:44 AM

Bump on a sunday afternoon

CAUSAL

Sunday, April 1, 2007 12:46 PM

bump

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Sunday, April 1, 2007 1:27 PM

Xena fans have a lot to be proud of; just the plain fact that it was aired on a syndicated network held together with Ronco & Extenze ad money, and the reality that you are and have been number one--dominating the voting over big network, iconic, long-running shows with big stars in them.
So don't let anything said here by some posters who never learned that simple lesson in life, ie. " if you can't say..etc etc etc ." keep you from feeling real shiny.

LEADB

Sunday, April 1, 2007 1:40 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Silvara:
Quote:
Originally posted by sab39:
I've never even seen Xena,

If you want to you can just check out some episodes at:

http://www.dailymotion.com/SpikeBad/video/x1ecas_xena-1x22-callisto-13

This competition also got me interested in Firefly, which I had never heard of. Is there a place to take a look at some clips from the show?

Looking forward to more friendly competition ;)

I can't say "never", but it's been years. Have to give it a gander. If you stumble across anyone interested in taking a quick peek at the FF series, you can sent them here:
http://versaphile.com/download/firefly.html
The video quality is good by standards of internet distribution; but far short of what you will see from the box set.

Yes; here's to -more friendly- competition :-)

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Sunday, April 1, 2007 1:54 PM

I agree with your sentiments, Jongstraw. I watched Xena several times and Xena fans have hung in there. Once I found Firefly I was hooked and this is my first ever fansite. If we're going to catch up we have a better chance by keeping the competition strong and clean.

vumping along.

Siri

DERANGEDMILK

Sunday, April 1, 2007 2:00 PM

Quote:

This competition also got me interested in Firefly, which I had never heard of. Is there a place to take a look at some clips from the show?

Looking forward to more friendly competition ;)

Uh...there was a thread awhile back about a place to watch them online for free and if I remember right that poster got really shot down. You see, DVD sales helped us browncoats get a movie and we're hoping that they will now help us get a sequel. I believe the upcoming special edition release of the film is evidence that universal is considering it and testing the water. So please, rent them if you're unwilling to buy them and help us out. Its a great show and no one I've introduced it to has had an adverse opinion.
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SILVARA

Sunday, April 1, 2007 2:36 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by leadb:
If you stumble across anyone interested in taking a quick peek at the FF series, you can sent them here:

Thanks, will take a look! :)

Quote:
Originally posted by derangedmilk:
Quote:

Uh...there was a thread awhile back about a place to watch them online for free and if I remember right that poster got really shot down. You see, DVD sales helped us browncoats get a movie and we're hoping that they will now help us get a sequel.

Oh, of course - I can relate to that. I rather meant some preview or trailer clips that would give a general idea than watching it all for free.

LEADB

Sunday, April 1, 2007 3:12 PM

The following is the summary of the voting for the month of march; shows are sorted by number of votes received in March, from most to least. This is best viewed imported into a spread sheet such as 123 or xls. You can parse the file based on the Underscore character "_".

03/01/2007_39142__04/01/2007_39173__31___
SHOW / VOTES - Total Top 40 votes recorded as of 03/01/07___SHOW / VOTES - Total Top 40 votes recorded as of 04/01/07______
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Xena: Warrior Princess_225525_1_Xena: Warrior Princess_269873_1_44348_0_1584_1
Firefly_170780_3_Firefly_213344_2_42564_1_1520_2
Bonanza_183468_2_Bonanza_210709_3_27241_-1_973_3
Battlestar Galactica (2004)_40436_16_Battlestar Galactica (2004)_58996_12_18560_4_663_4
Gunsmoke_93875_6_Gunsmoke_110992_4_17117_2_611_5
Little House on the Prairie_21096_33_Little House on the Prairie_34264_22_13168_11_470_6
Combat!_17085_39_Combat!_29396_29_12311_10_440_7
Trapper John, M.D._21534_31_Trapper John, M.D._33253_24_11719_7_419_8
Buffy the Vampire Slayer_45299_14_Buffy the Vampire Slayer_56241_14_10942_0_391_9
The X-Files_74244_7_The X-Files_84752_7_10508_0_375_10
Star Trek: Voyager_27840_22_Star Trek: Voyager_38183_20_10343_2_369_11
Lexx_67811_8_Lexx_77892_8_10081_0_360_12
Ponderosa_49827_11_Ponderosa_59601_11_9774_0_349_13
Farscape_101392_5_Farscape_110862_5_9470_0_338_14
Charmed_23391_26_Charmed_32443_25_9052_1_323_15
Stargate SG-1_41334_15_Stargate SG-1_49955_16_8621_-1_308_16
Laramie_47801_12_Laramie_56277_13_8476_-1_303_17
Star Trek: The Next Generation_35136_18_Star Trek: The Next Generation_43238_18_8102_0_289_18
House MD_23036_29_House MD_30917_26_7881_3_281_19
CSI: Crime Scene Investigation_23218_27_CSI: Crime Scene Investigation_30623_28_7405_-1_264_20
Babylon 5_31097_19_Babylon 5_38242_19_7145_0_255_21
Star Trek: The Original Series_30907_20_Star Trek: The Original Series_37609_21_6702_-1_239_22
Roswell_64516_9_Roswell_71209_9_6693_0_239_23
Angel_40140_17_Angel_46794_17_6654_0_238_24
Doctor Who_24640_24_Doctor Who_30870_27_6230_-3_223_25
Cleopatra 2525_16651_40_Cleopatra 2525_22653_37_6002_3_214_26
NCIS_21327_32_NCIS_27225_33_5898_-1_211_27
Star Trek: Deep Space Nine_22464_30_Star Trek: Deep Space Nine_28357_31_5893_-1_210_28
The Simpsons_23198_28_The Simpsons_29047_30_5849_-2_209_29
La Femme Nikita_103703_4_La Femme Nikita_108738_6_5035_-2_180_30
JAG_29053_21_JAG_34022_23_4969_-2_177_31
Northern Exposure_18263_38_Northern Exposure_23155_36_4892_2_175_32
The Man from U.N.C.L.E._46338_13_The Man from U.N.C.L.E._50439_15_4101_-2_146_33
Stargate Atlantis_20629_34_Stargate Atlantis_24653_35_4024_-1_144_34
Alias_18676_36_Alias_22493_38_3817_-2_136_35
Scarecrow and Mrs. King_24861_23_Scarecrow and Mrs. King_28224_32_3363_-9_120_36
Hercules: The Legendary Journeys_18282_37_Hercules: The Legendary Journeys_21072_40_2790_-3_100_37
Queer as Folk_61382_10_Queer as Folk_63177_10_1795_0_64_38
Scoop_19936_35_Scoop_21480_39_1544_-4_55_39
Les Filles de Caleb_23625_25_Les Filles de Caleb_25048_34_1423_-9_51_40
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Title_TotMar1_posMar1_Title_TotApr1_posApr1_TotDelta_PosDelta_perDayAve_DeltaPos

TotMar1 - Total votes on Apr 1
posMar1 - Position in top40 on Mar 1
TotApr1 - Total Apr 1
posApr1 - Position in top40 on Apr 1
TotDelta - Votes gained in month
PosDelta - position move up or down during Month
perDayAve - average votes per day during month
DeltaPos - Ranking for votes gained during Feb

Sadly, we are number 2 this month in over all votes gained; having lost 1784 votes to Xena this month; we gained ground against all other shows this month.
Happily, we gained one position this month; but I'm guessing you already knew that ;-)

Scoop, due to low positon and low on-going vote accumulation is "most likely" to drop off top40, IMHO.

Looks like the "top 10" ante has been raised; need to be running about 400 votes a day to hold a top10 spot in the long run.

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Sunday, April 1, 2007 3:28 PM

Today's Numbers

Total Votes (Range to show)
Xena(1): 269,873 (56,529)
Firefly(2): 213,344 (0)

Closure Rate Today (Wk.Avg.) Avg.
Firefly(2): -->Xena(1): 217 (70) 165
Bonanza(3): Stable
Gunsmoke(4): Stable
Farscape(5): Will fall to 8th
LaFemme Nikitia(6): CONTESTED. Will fall to both The X-Files and Lexx at Potentially near same time.
The X-Files(7): CONTESTED. Will pass LaFemmeNikita. Lexx may catch them!
Lexx(8): CONTESTED. May catch X-Files. Will Pass LaFemme Nikita
Roswell(9):Will eventually pass LaFemme Nikita
Queer as Folk Will fall from top 10.

Days to Intercept Today (Wk.Avg.) Avg.
Xena(1): 261 (808) 343

Votes Gained Today (Wk.Avg.) Avg.
Xena(1): 1,163 (1,622) 799
…Consecutive Days > Firefly: 0
…Best Day (March 30, 2007): 2,803 Record for all time best!
Firefly(2): 1380 (1692) 964
...Consecutive days > 1,500: 0
…Best Day (March 30, 2007): 2,359
Bonanza(3): 1004 (1063) 692
…Best Day (March 29, 2007): 1,185
Gunsmoke(4): 543 (609) 378
Farscape(5): 333 (350) 213
LaFemme Nikitia(6): 133 (172) 159
The X-Files(7): 292 (355) 237
Lexx(8): 345 (354) 228
Roswell(9): 203 (246) 161
Queer as Follk(10): 49 (63) 57

Using LeadB's figure of 400/day to stay in the Top10, all shows currently below Gunsmoke will eventually fall from the Top10.

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Sunday, April 1, 2007 4:09 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by StormCat:
I'm not visiting Rich's site anymore to vote for anyone.

...

It's funny, you all are voting for Bonanza, now I will and with posting that letter I bet Xenites will too.

How on earth did you come to your conclusion that we were voting for Bonanza?

So you're not voting AND voting? Good luck with that.

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Sunday, April 1, 2007 5:09 PM

Ah, another day with the most votes... happiness reigns.
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LEADB

Sunday, April 1, 2007 5:28 PM

Flattop; Some very interesting stats and derivations. Thanks for summarizing that.

All,
Well, I don't know if I'll ever do this again, i t was painful; I've decided if I were to do it again, I'd export the data and script something (not being a spread sheet wizard).

The following are the top 40 vote gainers in the -nomination- poll. No surprises on #1;

title_Mar1_Apr1_Gain
Highway to Heaven_5727_12048_6321
Dark Shadows (1966)_5659_8959_3300
CSI Miami_7661_10386_2725
The Professionals (1977)_1893_3659_1766
Lancer_3800_5395_1595
Maverick_1047_2528_1481
Space: 1999_4617_6050_1433
The Waltons_1916_3212_1296
Grey's Anatomy_3333_4609_1276
Heroes_2031_3147_1116
Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood_1084_2190_1106
Wagon Train_6895_7853_958
Emergency_3072_3976_904
The L Word_10899_11671_772
Supernatural_1707_2479_772
Centennial (1978 mini)_490_1231_741
24_2125_2865_740
Strange Paradise_1070_1739_669
Simon & Simon_1152_1797_645
WKRP in Cincinnati_1212_1842_630
The Avengers_3105_3694_589
In the Heat of the Night (1988)_1872_2444_572
Bones_1245_1807_562
My World and Welcome to It_430_973_543
Trailer Park Boys (2001)_883_1417_534
Barbara Mandrell and the Mandrell Sisters_905_1404_499
Gilmore Girls_1022_1521_499
Law And Order Special Victims Unit_2185_2650_465
Miami Vice_480_936_456
Quantum Leap_1237_1679_442
Pinky and the Brain_2036_2467_431
Smallville_890_1295_405
The Big Valley_1558_1944_386
The West Wing_7633_8017_384
California Dreams_938_1321_383
Tour of Duty_266_632_366
Nip/Tuck_1412_1746_334
Robin of Sherwood_906_1233_327
Futurama_2296_2616_320
Homicide: Life on the Street_92_410_318
(this can be "parsed" into a spread sheet against the underscore "_"
character)

A few surpises on the low end; Homicide: Life on the Street came out of nowwhere.
The Professionals is also making quite the mark.
I was pleased to see Mr. Rogers' capture slot 11.

Other than HtH, I still don't see anyone with enough votes to make a serious run to the top; perhaps after HtH hits there, that will free up some vigorous nominators to work other series.

LEADB

Sunday, April 1, 2007 5:33 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by FlyVote:
Quote:
Originally posted by StormCat:

It's funny, you all are voting for Bonanza, now I will and with posting that letter I bet Xenites will too.

How on earth did you come to your conclusion that we were voting for Bonanza?

Hmmm, that might be my fault, I think I indicated someplace I was considering voting for Bonanza now that we are past it; I do like the show, and am happy to see it have a place on the top40. I was thinking on waiting for it to be maybe 5000 votes back before doing such. But to conclude that as a -group- we would vote for Bonanza, I would never presume to make such a judgement on my own.

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Sunday, April 1, 2007 6:06 PM

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Sunday, April 1, 2007 7:35 PM

bump

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Sunday, April 1, 2007 8:26 PM

What goes Bump in the night?

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Sunday, April 1, 2007 8:38 PM

A thousand bumps from Lexx!
Too bad everyone is falling down in the last days. At least we are not, thanks to you probably :)
Lexx loves you!

FLATTOP

Sunday, April 1, 2007 8:46 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by leadb:
Flattop; Some very interesting stats and derivations. Thanks for summarizing that.

Quite welcome. I'm still working on the phrasing, but that's the gist of what I'll try to post.

C'mon folks. Gotta keep voting if we want to catch Xena

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WACKYNEPHEW

Sunday, April 1, 2007 9:02 PM

Still vumping...

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AYCEOFSPADES

Sunday, April 1, 2007 9:24 PM

I'm bumping in the rain!

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FLATTOP

Sunday, April 1, 2007 10:36 PM

Yeah, well at least you saw some Vumpin'. I slept through the whole gorram thing.

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Monday, April 2, 2007 12:06 AM

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Monday, April 2, 2007 1:34 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by fedexxx:
A thousand bumps from Lexx!
Too bad everyone is falling down in the last days. At least we are not, thanks to you probably :)
Lexx loves you!

Very good.
Now, how many Bumps does it take to change a light bulb?

** I suspect that the stability is from the core of folks here; the heavy fluxuation of votes inspired by the Whedonesque posting would likely not have drawn much extra help for Lexx; and given the fall off, I'm just hoping we picked up a half dozen regular voters in the long haul. Not that I'm complaining about the big "one off" we got from it.

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Monday, April 2, 2007 1:45 AM

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REVDEADCORPSE

Monday, April 2, 2007 2:08 AM

All de lezbyans in Palo Alto must be gaining up to vote for Xena.

I enjoyed that show as well, but it can't hold a candle to Firefly.

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DERANGEDMILK

Monday, April 2, 2007 4:15 AM

Bedtime bump! I didn't count but I feel as thoughI got in a lot of votes today...perhaps close to 20. KEEP VOTING BROWNCOATS!!!
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WACKYNEPHEW

Monday, April 2, 2007 5:30 AM

Bump...

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BOB30

Monday, April 2, 2007 9:08 AM

Vumping.

Congratulations to all who voted for the BDM in the SFX poll. While the list of Top 10 Sci-Fi movies of all time may be a little bit questionable, the results seem to have caused a bit of a stir and that can only be a good thing, with the special edition on the horizon!

A couple of links to stories:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6517155.stm (Made the BBC News! )

http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/apr07/4991

I'll be in my bunk....

JORUNE

Monday, April 2, 2007 9:31 AM

Love how it gets reported by the BBC. Onto the Hall of Power!

SAB39

Monday, April 2, 2007 11:53 AM

Today Buffy reaches #13, almost certainly. And BSG should make #11 in the next day or two.

Looking forward to those numbers :)

CAUSAL

Monday, April 2, 2007 12:15 PM

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SISTER

Monday, April 2, 2007 12:48 PM

...back from a trip...bump.

BOB30

Monday, April 2, 2007 1:36 PM

6th vote of the day Bump.

SFX have now posted a page about Serenity becoming the "greatest". Has sparked a bit of a debate...

http://www.sfx.co.uk/page/sfx?entry=lord_of_the_fireflies

I'll be in my bunk....

DERANGEDMILK

Monday, April 2, 2007 1:37 PM

HOORAY FOR GETTING IN THE BBC!!!!!! Awesome article. Love the pictures they choose too, really shows the similiarities between Star Wars and the BDM.
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BOB30

Monday, April 2, 2007 1:50 PM

The BBC has now decided to put in its own poll on the page about the BDM. Looks like another test of our voting skills.

Vote at

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6517155.stm

We currently trail to Star Wars and Blade Runner.

Is it worth posting a new thread on this to draw folk in?

I'll be in my bunk....

DERANGEDMILK

Monday, April 2, 2007 1:55 PM

VOTED!!! This one might be worthy of another thread. Gotta win the BBC, the world is watching!
Which is the best sci-fi film?
Serenity
18.82%
Star Wars
39.11%
Blade Runner
22.14%
Planet of the Apes
2.95%
The Matrix
16.97%
271 Votes Cast
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FLATTOP

Monday, April 2, 2007 2:16 PM

How often can you vote in the BBC poll?
They aren't very familiar w/ fandom if they think folks'll only vote once!

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BOB30

Monday, April 2, 2007 2:23 PM

Difficult to tell. It certainly lets you vote more than once. Not seen it affect the percentage yet though.

I guess we just keep trying.

Regardless of whether or not we win, we are spreading the signal.

I'll be in my bunk....After I have voted some more!

AYCEOFSPADES

Monday, April 2, 2007 3:19 PM

Voted, most likely BBC will only allow 1 vote per person.

Good publicity though.

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WACKYNEPHEW

Monday, April 2, 2007 3:58 PM

I've voted multiple times. I don't think they are as savvy about polls like this. Anyway, votes are pouring in and we're losing ground fast. The previous poll is going to look like a fluke if we don't step up.

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BOB30

Monday, April 2, 2007 4:02 PM

Seems a pretty overwhelming battle. Close on twice the number of votes that the SFX poll generated already!

This will be a massive test of our voting resolve. Winning this one probably would rank up there in the "Done the impossible" bracket!

I'll be in my bunk....

SISTER

Monday, April 2, 2007 4:24 PM

BBC and then the universe

DERANGEDMILK

Monday, April 2, 2007 4:24 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bob30:
Seems a pretty overwhelming battle. Close on twice the number of votes that the SFX poll generated already!

This will be a massive test of our voting resolve. Winning this one probably would rank up there in the "Done the impossible" bracket!

Doin' the impossible is what we do best...pour 'em on 'coats we were losing the last one at first too.
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WACKYNEPHEW

Monday, April 2, 2007 4:25 PM

Forget Star Wars, we can't gain on Blade Runner.

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AYCEOFSPADES

Monday, April 2, 2007 7:43 PM

Great numbers again today, keep it up!

Btw no new thread today Flat?

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CAUSAL

Monday, April 2, 2007 8:00 PM

bump

(and waiting on the numbers)

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Monday, April 2, 2007 8:26 PM

vumping like mad minks.

SISTER

Monday, April 2, 2007 11:33 PM

Get back up there, you vote thread, you.

DERANGEDMILK

Monday, April 2, 2007 11:33 PM

BUMPALUMPAGUS!
-e

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FLATTOP

Monday, April 2, 2007 11:38 PM

Quote:
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Great numbers again today, keep it up!

Btw no new thread today Flat?

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Been having problems reaching the site. It keeps timing out.
Hopefully this post makes it, to be followed in short order by a new thread.

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CAUSAL

Monday, April 2, 2007 11:38 PM

*gasp*

Numbers! *wheeze*

Must--have...numbers!

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