O.K.--Drive--I'll start.

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TRAVELER

Monday, April 16, 2007 11:09 PM

I surprised myself by watching this show. I have only been watching "Medium" and "My Name Is Earl" for the last year or so.

Not a bad start. Hope the writers are up to the task of keeping this interesting.

No mention as to why Nathan was forced into this. They will keep that secret till the series ends.

I think this show will make it. It has a lot to offer. So I expect at least four good years and maybe more. Fox seems to have got their act together and got this program off with a excellent start.

I loved the way Nathan's character kicked the guy in the head, in the bath tube, when he got tired of listening to his dribble.

I am going to put this on my list with "Medium" and "My Name Is Earl".

I might actually start looking out for more TV shows to watch.

It has already been mention, but when they took the other car and it stalled on them it was just as if I was waiting for Nathan to say "Why doesn't it ever go smooth?"

On that note I will pause.
I think you all realize this show has my vote.
I new there would be thread about "Drive" and was not to surprised to how large it is already.
Will see it tonight if they honest abiut it being a regular Monday night program.

Traveler

DANIELFYRE

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 12:09 AM

Okay first commercial break of the monday ep...impressions anyone? Someone commented earlier about the guy who says "holmes" a lot...yeah that's starting to get really annoying...and I loved the "yeah I need you back in the truck" thing.

-DanielFyre

"real men juggle geese"

CYBERSNARK

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 12:13 AM

*tries to watch second episode of Drive*

GORRAMMIT!!!

If it's not Fox, it's God.

Does an--*--ody out there hav--*--ood reception? Ruttin' wind/rain/sleet/snow storm--*--ve been hav--*--for the pa-*-24 hours is frack-*- up the broadc-*-. Sound kee--*--ting out every fe--*--conds, and th--*--age pixilat--*--rks, and de-rezzes l--*--a badly-interlaced --*--nvid. I've seen clea--*-- pictures and be--*-- audio on YOUTUBE!!

I can't watch this.

If anybody can post a torrent, I'll be forever greatful.

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DANIELFYRE

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 12:18 AM

Hmm...possible connection for everyone involved in the race? Maybe one member from every team is actually responsible or is being blamed for someone else's death? Just a thought...

-DanielFyre

"real men juggle geese"

SWEETSERENDIPITY

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 12:37 AM

Ok, where the hell is Alex being held if not the police station?!

Deb

DERANGEDMILK

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 12:40 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by sweetserendipity:
Ok, where the hell is Alex being held if not the police station?!

and more importantly...where is his truck!?!?!
-e

"Storms getting worse."
"We'll pass through it soon enough."

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DANIELFYRE

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 12:42 AM

I definately saw cops walking around outside that room by the way...I made sure to look for that...

-DanielFyre

"real men juggle geese"

PENGUIN

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 12:48 AM

Ok......

Car looks nice though!

King of the Mythical Land that is Iowa

DANIELFYRE

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 12:49 AM

...Okay...so he represents Nathan's "sponsors" I guess...? And I take back my last guess as to what they all have in common...I think they all have some type of criminal element about them yes, but not specifically murder for all of them.

-DanielFyre

"real men juggle geese"

DERANGEDMILK

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 12:51 AM

So did he or did he not help kill those people? Sounds like they're trying to make him change, play with his mind, giving him back his old car and all.

I also don't get how the rich son can have that much power over his dad. Its usually the parents who cut the kids off not the other way around.
-e

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DERANGEDMILK

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 12:51 AM

gorrammit

PENGUIN

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 12:54 AM

A little Shan Yu??

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FUTUREMRSFILLION

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 12:56 AM

ARE YOU READY TO MEET THE REAL ALEX TULLY!

ROFLMAO!

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PEULSAR5

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 12:59 AM

Ha--cool ending. VERY hot car!

DANIELFYRE

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 1:00 AM

Hmmm...not bad I don't feel dissapointed. Anyone know the name of the intro song?

-DanielFyre

"real men juggle geese"

DEEPGIRL187

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 1:05 AM

*shiver, shiver, shudder*

Am I the only one suddenly terrified of our esteemed captain? That look he gave at the end was seriously creepifying.

And I'll admit I was wrong about the couple in the sports car. I still don't like them too much, but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

It looks like Wendy may end up discovering her backbone. I wonder what that means for her partner.

*sigh*

One more week...

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DERANGEDMILK

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 1:05 AM

Awesome ending. When Nathan came around the corner in his new ride I nearly jumped out of my chair cheering! I didn't want it to end...I was ready to see that movie.
-e

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LEXIBLOCK

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 1:07 AM

Well I really like Nathan, the rest of the show not so much. I'll probably keep watching (until its cancled) for him. But this is pretty pedestrian (apart from the far out idea) - somebody better start pulling out some brilliant writing very soon, or it will be fast forward through the boring contestants.

PENGUIN

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 1:07 AM

Just a wee bit of firefly showing through! lol

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DAVESHAYNE

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 1:11 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by derangedmilk:
I also don't get how the rich son can have that much power over his dad. Its usually the parents who cut the kids off not the other way around.

Dad's a politician. Needs a nice familly values picture for purposes of election.

David

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COOKIEJAR

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 1:15 AM

Well, the second part did not disappoint. I definitely went "You wanna meet the real me now?!" during that scene. And that car is HOT!!!! I love it!!!

FLYVOTE

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 1:19 AM

I have the feeling that the powers-that-be are taking bets on who will win, and each investing effort to get their team to win. Alex's um, host? OK Alex's host went to the trouble of hiring Officer Pseudo-Poole to shake up Alex a bit. Could holmes/bro's father also be a host? Play his own sons in the game?

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Tuesday, April 17, 2007 1:26 AM

Yea. The she's my partner. In other words. Mal telling Jayne that if you rat on my crew you rat on me. Nathan is a pirate again.

So a lot of people have a past. I'm wondering about this baby. Something special about the baby.

I am going to miss the truck.[/]

We will probably never see it again.

I also got to keep Repeating "Alex" or I will be calling Nathan "Mal" through this entire series.

Traveler

OUT2THEBLACK

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 1:42 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by traveler:
...Nathan is a pirate again.

I am going to miss the truck.[/]

We will probably never see it again.

I also got to keep Repeating "Alex" or I will be calling Nathan "Mal" through this entire series.

Yah , so it is...I used to groove with calling Firefly " Star Truck ". A friend of mine used to call it " Rednecks in Space ".

Yeah , gonna miss the truck...Gotta ' Race the Truck '.

But , our Captain's got a new ride...Hello , Nathan ! We KNOW you are SO checkin' out these threads...Get some sleep , Man !

Browncoats Got Your Back ! GO NATHAN ! Cool new ride ! Hey , it's no Serenity , but until you get your spaceship back , WE HOLD !

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WACKYNEPHEW

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 1:50 AM

I wonder how many more Firefly-isms we're going to see. Ehrle and "...you wanna see the real me now...?", being two. Did we miss any more subtle ones?

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LEADB

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 2:03 AM

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FOLLOWMAL

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 2:04 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Penguin:
Ok......

Car looks nice though!

King of the Mythical Land that is Iowa

Yes indeed. Hot car, hot guy! Amazing show so far!
I'm glued and already loving the action, the characters, the Firefly references and worrying.

Only thing I'm not likin' is the song as the opening credits play. Not high octane enough for me... although some of the other music has been kick ass.

Nathan is as always the most amazing performer.
And I love that Alex is so much like Mal. *sigh*

Oh, and Penguin....LOVE the signature. Love it!

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PENGUIN

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 2:06 AM

Something I whipped up last night....

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FOLLOWMAL

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 2:09 AM

It's beautiful.

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TRAVELER

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 2:17 AM

Oh God! Another fan site. When will I find time to eat.

EDIT: We should have a contest about how many times the one guy is going to say "holmes" in each episode. I forgot to keep count tonight.

Traveler

GROOSALUGG

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 2:49 AM

The song that played during the final driving sequence (as Alex was blowing everyone's doors off in his sweet new ride)... I'm positive it was in an episode of Angel, but I just can't place which one . Anyone else recognize it?

Hope the ratings for tonight's will be a little better than last night's. Yeah, it'll probably get smoked by the celeb dancing show, but maybe if it can be competitive with the other two networks' offerings... Be interested to know how expensive each ep is to produce, too (and also what the network's expectations for it are). If it's fairly reasonable, cost-wise, they might give it a longer leash; if it's wicked expensive, I have a feeling we'll be lucky to see ep#6...

I'm gonna be if it gets canned, 'cause there's so few things on TV I even watch anymore. I'm still angry about "Wonderfalls" getting axed after just 3 eps...

STOWEAWAY

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 3:00 AM

My husband almost wet himself when they showed that car!! Now he's hooked -- because of the CAR.
I think Alex really was part of that bank heist. He said something about never leaving a man behind.
Doesn't matter, I'll watch it no matter what.
I would watch Nathan Fillion read the phone book on TV.

ILOVEFIREFLY

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 3:10 AM

Well The Challenger Must of cost a lot

YINYANG

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 3:13 AM

Where do I begin? Every time they start in with some real good characterization, or they take it somewhere I'm interested in going, Alex gets hit in the head!! My mom and brother called the "you killed my partner" bit, and on and on and on. There's too much damn action, and the special effects are very noticeable.

Tully hasn't slept in at least a day; they're not telling us anything really about "these people;" and for me it's all just smoke and mirrors - whatever big reveal they have planned at the end of forever cannot possibly be as big or as bad as they're desperately trying to make us believe it is. It all seems more than implausible, and... grr.

But, Nathan Fillion's on TV again, and I have nothing better to do Monday nights. Who knows? Maybe it'll get better... eventually. 'Till then, the only people I like are the dad and daughter, the manager-type guy ("going to the police would be immediate grounds for disqualification"), and Alex (and, by extension, Corinna, because they are partners). All the rest of it is more or less crap, in my honest opinion.

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ANONYMOUS1

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 3:24 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by marina:
Quote:
However, I am a little confused about the truck driver - when he said he had something in the back that could help him out. What would he have done if Alex had taken him up on the offer? Killed him? Killed her? Let them off the hook? I totally love the whole taunting thing at the end, but the logistics of that one interaction still have me puzzled. If I'm meant to assume that somehow he knew how Alex would respond I can do that – but is there something I'm missing?

I think there are people who want Alex to win the race and I think there are people who want Alex to not win the race.

Select to view spoiler:
Easiest way to get Tully out of the race is to simply give him his wife. Maybe the truck driver could not tell him directly that she was there...but if Alex asked he might permission to give her to him. Or it just might have been a way to drive Alex crazy. Think how they must have tortured the parents of little blond girl in the race 27 years ago.

I don't think there was any sound coming from the phone. Alex was remembering what the truck driver said earlier.

NCBROWNCOAT

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 3:45 AM

Quote:
I could watch Nathan Fillion read the phone book on TV[quote/]

I could watch Nathan Fillion reading a Form 1040.

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TRAVELER

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 3:49 AM

It is possible there are people gambling on the outcome of the race. That is why you can't stop someone once they started. Even if they hit you with a wrench.

I want the truck back.

Traveler

FLORALBUNNY

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 4:15 AM

No way to watch it here (gnash, gnash!)
It's DVD for me, eventually.

"...you wanna see the real me now...?", has been
cited as a familiar Mal line. Somebody else
mentioned Alex uttering a very Mal-ish "hunh."
I think we got "hunh" nearly every episode of FF,
and ditto our old favorite, "son of a bitch."
Anybody hear a "son of a bitch" these 2 nights?

Wouldn't it be more fun if other characters were
given the FF lines? Or am I too much the caption
freak?

bun
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SINGATE

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 4:16 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by traveler:
It is possible there are people gambling on the outcome of the race. That is why you can't stop someone once they started. Even if they hit you with a wrench.

I want the truck back.

Wasn't there a line in the opener to the effect "someone's got a lot riding on you". Immediately we assume it's his wife but the guy could have been talking about some high roller. Would fit since the winner supposedly gets $32 million.

The truck was a nice touch but that car is one bad mofo. Wouldn't mind if a Hemi showed up soon...a real Hemi not the crap Dodge rolls out nowadays.

Earlier in the thread I was pondering why the drivers weren't being noticed by the police. A co-worker of mine suggested that perhaps they have been advised to avoid the contestants. If the men behind the curtain are powerful enough to set up constant surveillance and organize elaborate hoaxes then it could be plausible. The only fault I find with the idea is that in this day and age people are always using cell phones to call the police and photograph unusual goings on. What are the authorites saying when they receive dozens of phone calls about reckless driving? "A...yes sir...we've received several calls on this matter and will look into it".

Still liking it.

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Tuesday, April 17, 2007 4:34 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by FloralBunny:
No way to watch it here (gnash, gnash!)
It's DVD for me, eventually.

"...you wanna see the real me now...?", has been
cited as a familiar Mal line. Somebody else
mentioned Alex uttering a very Mal-ish "hunh."
I think we got "hunh" nearly every episode of FF,
and ditto our old favorite, "son of a bitch."
Anybody hear a "son of a bitch" these 2 nights?

I didn't hear one, but when he delivered the line, "What's the trouble?" last night, it was pretty Mal-esque.

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REGINAROADIE

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 4:34 AM

The two things I loved about this episode was the father/daughter sub-plot and the reveal that the rogue cop was another part of the race and the reveal of Alex's old car. As much as I loved the brown truck because it reminded me of Serenity, I love this other car so much more. With this guy, the trucker (played by the same guy tht played Allan Grey in ENTOURAGE, that's where I know him from) and Beth Grant the waitress, you really get that Kafka like sense that no matter where you go or pull off at during the race, there's no escape.

I love how the other person on the phone with Dylan Baker wasn't the ex-wife but his doctor. Not only does it show that the father really CAN lie well, but it's that extra bit of pathos that lying to her brings him and her closer together. Only sets up the inevitable downfall of him.

And I like the fact that the ep ended at a drive-in theatre. Only wish we saw the actual film.

Looking forward to next weeks ep. Answers what the racers do for money. Credit cards and bank accounts can only go so far.

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ANONYMOUS1

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 4:48 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by FloralBunny:
No way to watch it here (gnash, gnash!)
It's DVD for me, eventually.

I can't remember if you have dial up too. But

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They promise an "HD-like experience" at the highest quality, and there's also a discussion board.

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PHYRELIGHT

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 4:50 AM

Does Alex remind anyone of the original, moodier Mal from the original Serenity pilot? Not for the version that was revised and aired.

Here's a link to that eppy if anyone hasn't seen it: http://versaphile.com/download/firefly.html. That eppy is the one marked as '1x00 "Serenity"' at the bottom.

Anywho, I didn't see a lot of similarities in the characters, as Mal is running from and Alex is running to. They just have that same quality of moodiness.

And, on another note (I'm gonna turn into my 14 year old self for this one): Alex's old/new car is soooooooooooo hot! It really makes a girl want to jump in and ride off with him. Not that I wouldn't have if he was driving the truck. It's just... it's a girl thing!

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PHYRELIGHT

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 4:50 AM

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JADEHAND

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 4:53 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by BrownCoat1:
Well, I forgot it was on so I missed it. Doesn't look like there is any repeat of the episode on soon, so not sure I'll watch the second part tonight. I hate coming into something even just one episode behind.

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They should have the first episodes up on fox's myspace account soon(edit: now: http://www.myspace.com/fox . you and anyone else can catch up.
also, adam's "daybreak" is available on abc.com and gina's "Standoff" is on fox's myspace.

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ARRION

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 5:40 AM

Quote:
The song that played during the final driving sequence (as Alex was blowing everyone's doors off in his sweet new ride)... I'm positive it was in an episode of Angel, but I just can't place which one . Anyone else recognize it?

It's "Leave You Far Behind" by Lunatic Calm. I recognized it from the Matrix soundtrack.

FLORALBUNNY

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 6:56 AM

I can't remember if you have dial up too. But
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Y'all are so kind. I am still running my
venerable LVCVLLVS MDIII, a beautiful machine
exquisitely crafted of beautiful minerals and
semi-precious stones. The connection has
recently been upgraded from pressed-clay bullae
to carven beads in order to speed things up
by eliminating drying time.
*weeps gently onto hand-rest, risking rust on
her carving tools*

I am thinking Jay Leno might like Alex's car and
would welcome him as a guest...

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BROWNCOAT1

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:26 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jadehand:
They should have the first episodes up on fox's myspace account soon(edit: now: http://www.myspace.com/fox . you and anyone else can catch up.
also, adam's "daybreak" is available on abc.com and gina's "Standoff" is on fox's myspace.

Found it this morning. Wasn't up yesterday when I went to Fox's site a couple of times.

Caught last night's episode. Not too bad, but I think I will get more out of it once I watch the pilot episode online.

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Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:31 AM

Yes, Episode 3 is much much better after 1-2.

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BROWNCOAT1

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:33 AM

Now if I could just the ruttin' things to load!

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Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:36 AM

yeah, I had to click 'reload' and then click the area where it last stopped playing to get it to work well.

Enjoy it!

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BROWNCOAT1

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:49 AM

Yeah, it's loading, just creeping along at it.

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Tuesday, April 17, 2007 11:30 AM

They expect us to wait a week to see what's on that video!?!? It's gonna be a long gorram week...

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SHINYED

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 11:34 AM

Michael Bowen was great last night...always is. Unfortunately he looked like he finally just escaped from his zombie attackers 20 years ago in Night Of the Comet.

GRAYFURY

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 12:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by GrayFury:
You know those assholes that care way too much about cars... well thats me. I LOVE CARS. The previews for tonights show feature a 1970 Dodge Challenger. the R/T Hood tells me that it probably has the 383 engine, but may have the 440 option. its an aftermarket paintjob...Dodge never offered a blue on black paint scheme in 70 ...the Challenger was offered from the years 1970-1974.. It was introduced by dodge to compete with the mustang in the "pony car" category... gas shortages proved to be the end of the high output engines in 1972... the lack of demand led to the demise of the model in 1974... R/T stands for Road & Track ... the moniker is the equivelent of Chevrolets SS which stands for super sport. Dodges sister company Plymouth had a car that the challenger "cloned" ...the Baracuda ...or Cuda'It A 1970 Challenger was featured in the 1971 film "Vanishing Point" and was remade in 1996 (I think) with Viggo Mortinsen in the lead role... It was also featured again in the new Tarantino film "Death Proof" in all three films it was a white 440 hemi R/T (HEMI refers to the "hemispherical Combustion chamber" all 8 cylinder chambers looked like upsidedown soup bowls) ...very nice. a car of that caliber would fetch arround 85k - 120k at auction today.

I also forgot... a Hemi Orange 1970 TA challenger also appeared in 2 fast 2 Furious... It is a beautiful machine. *Sigh*

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DERANGEDMILK

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 1:42 PM

I personally hope there are various people betting on the contestants as opposed to one eccentric, semi-omnesceint billionaire pitting people against one another for fun. That'd be a bit cliche. However, would you rather see Tully win the race and get his wife back or go outside the rules and get his wife back by taking down the race organizers and preventing future races?
-e

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MAL4PREZ

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 2:23 PM

OK, the thing is the back of the semi that would help Alex wasn't his wife, it was the car!

So, I'm loving Nathan, but disappointed with most everything else. Characters and subplots are a bit flat and contrived for me. Sorry! I'm still watching, assuming it'll get better, because it's Tim.

I do like the highway chase scenes and music, and the camera work is pretty sweet, like the first bit of the race when they're all leaving the hotel. I just hope that not every highway in the US looks exactly like the one they've been on, with a double yellow line right down the middle but everyone going the same way...

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DERANGEDMILK

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 3:16 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by mal4prez:
OK, the thing is the back of the semi that would help Alex wasn't his wife, it was the car!

So, I'm loving Nathan, but disappointed with most everything else. Characters and subplots are a bit flat and contrived for me. Sorry! I'm still watching, assuming it'll get better, because it's Tim.

I do like the highway chase scenes and music, and the camera work is pretty sweet, like the first bit of the race when they're all leaving the hotel. I just hope that not every highway in the US looks exactly like the one they've been on, with a double yellow line right down the middle but everyone going the same way...

Can't agree more with you about the highway. I-75 doesn't look like that at any point that I'm aware of and there is absolutely no mountain range on any horizon near Gainesville.

Besides that, I don't know where you get off saying that his car was in the back of the semi and not his wife. The trucker had a picture of his wife, not the car. I suppose his car could have been in the back as well, but his wife was definitely also there.
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Tuesday, April 17, 2007 3:52 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by derangedmilk:
Besides that, I don't know where you get off saying that his car was in the back of the semi...

Wow. You sound angry. Really?

It makes sense to me - the car sure as hell will help him finish the race. His wife? Not so much. Yeah, probably she was there too, because the baddies playing him have to be following him around with all they need to play with his head - the wife, the camera phone to call him with at any second he may demand it, the car and all they need to set up a warehouse with the faux cop shop and the good backlighting for said pretty car, etc. (Contrived? Not at all!)

As for where I get off saying it... in my office, I guess, cause that's where I am. Oh yeah, gettin' off!

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DERANGEDMILK

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 4:15 PM

Sorry mal4prez, not mad at all. Its just that I don't remember the truck driver saying what he had in the back would help Alex finish the race but that what he had in the back would help give him a way out of the race. "where you get off" does sound hostile and I'm sorry, definitely wasn't my intention.
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MAL4PREZ

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 4:28 PM

No problem - I thought it was funny!

I could be making up the words the driver said, but I remember it as being something to help him finish, which confused me when the wife showed up. The car just makes so much more sense.

I do like the idea of a truck load of Alex Tully emergency supplies following him across the country.

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WOLFEN68

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 5:46 PM

I've watched all three episodes and after the 2nd I was thinking that it was OK...but that it was nothing incredible. The only reason my interest held is because of the Minear/Fillion connection.

After the third episode however, I think the show is starting to find it's footing. I think there are all kinds of plot lines that could be folded into the plot if done effectively. Also, many of the characters still need to be made more impactful to the audience.

Possible Spoiler for anyone who hasn't seen the shows yet.....

I'm convinced Alex Tully was a professional get-away driver. He quit that life when a certain job went wrong and innocents were killed (which is uncool to him as he has our captain's morals). The sponsors sought him out because he was good...very good in that profession.

Between his skills and the combined vendettas of him and his partner...I assume the show will spend lots of time on unraveling the consipiracy theory of the entire race in almost an x-files fashion.

UNCOMPREHENDING

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 9:10 PM

I wasn't crazy about the 2-hour episode... but I watched the Monday night ep because I really, really want to like the show (b/c of Nathan and Tim Minear) and after that bit with the car and all, I am completely hooked. My roommate and I were both screaming at the tv by the end of the episode (No! What?! It can't end now! Son of a B****!!). Don't much care for the theme song though.
Yin Yang, I just couldn't leave this alone... Alex Tulley hasn't slept in at least a day, but Jack Bauer hasn't peed in at least 2 seasons. Well at least we know Drive isn't alone in the leaving out the little things.

Man it takes a silly girl to lie about the dreams she has.
Lord it takes a lonely one to wish that she had never dreamed at all.
--Dashboard Confessional

LIGHTMEDARK

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:27 PM

The show seems decent and much better than most of the crap on TV. The only thing that really bothered me about the show was the racing sequences...I know they're not going to stop with that, but I think the show would be better if they did.

TRAVELER

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 11:24 PM

Hello Grayfury:

I was trying to think of the title "Vanishing Point" and it would not enter my head. So glad you remembered it. It so reminded of that movie when Nathan let that sucker fly.

They knew how to make cars back then.

Traveler

JONGSSTRAW

Wednesday, April 18, 2007 12:22 AM

This is a great show! Fillion is awesome, and it looks to only get better...I can't believe all the fugging faggot nappy-headed nitpickers. Stay loose howlies!

ZEEK

Wednesday, April 18, 2007 6:30 PM

I really wish they had picked a better premise for this show. As it is I can't get into the show at all. The amount of suspension of disbelief required is just too great. These people must be blithering idiots to just give up their lives for an illegal race. The cops must be blithering idiots to not pull these cars over. The writers must be blithering idiots to have so many of these people stop for hours and yet still all end up getting to the checkpoints at the same time.

I don't even find myself caring about Nathan's character. We really needed to see him and his wife together to establish her character. As it stands I'm not too concerned for her. She could be an evil @#$* for all we know. Nathan's partner is extremly annoying and I'm hoping Tim sticks with his killer instincts and starts axing people. She'd be first on my list quickly followed by old dude and his daughter. The homie stereotype boy and his brother. The best character of them all is the mom. Something about her acting just makes you feel for her.

Anyway I'll keep giving it a shot until How I Met Your Mother comes back and takes over the timeslot.

JWHEDONADDICT

Wednesday, April 18, 2007 8:01 PM

I waited until I'd seen all 3 eps. before I posted, and now I have.

The biggest plus to me (besides Nathan & Tim, obviously)was the Wendy character. I've liked the actress in just about every role I've seen her in and I think this one just might be my favorite (and I even have a girlie-girl obsession with EVER AFTER)...Wendy is adorable! I also ended up liking Mal's (I mean Alex's) partner way more than I expected to.

The negatives, in my opinion, were the latino brothers (ex-con: stereotypical; preppy one: okay actor, but miscast); the father-daughter team I felt would've been enjoyable with a different actress in the part; that Wendy got out of shooting the annoying Taryn Manning character who is probably going to grate more than any of them; and finally (and I'm not sure if this is necessarily a negative or not but) that I figured out both that Corrinna was the little girl in the flashback and that Amy Acker was in the back of the semi pretty early on in each case.

Overall, I liked the show, found myself drawn in immediately and stayed hooked throughout the majority of the first two hours, then started to feel my interest slightly decreasing during the third hour. Whether or not that will continue I don't know yet, but I plan to keep watching to find out. I still adore Nathan, and I will continue to worship the ground that Tim Minear has walked on since ANGEL. But I do not feel I will ever connect to any of these characters the way I have to Joss's characters.

"In Joss We Trust."

DANIELFYRE

Thursday, April 19, 2007 3:40 AM

I really enjoyed the show the 3'rd ep was in fact the best in my opinon. My only question to people is this "you want to meet the real me" line...where in FF is that? I'm assuming its from FF but I can't place it. Help would be great.

-DanielFyre

"real men juggle geese"

PHYRELIGHT

Thursday, April 19, 2007 4:03 AM

The "You want to meet the real me?!" line is in the "War Stories" episode.

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JADEHAND

Thursday, April 19, 2007 4:08 AM

War stories, with Niska.
"You wanna meet the real me now?"
vs.
"You don't want to meet the real Alex Tully."

"I will stare from the window
At the shapes in the rain." -Beyond You - Afraid of Sunlight -Marillion
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JADEHAND

Thursday, April 19, 2007 4:10 AM

rewatch the episodes peeps, and direct those that missed 'em here: http://www.myspace.com/driveonfox

"I will stare from the window
At the shapes in the rain." -Beyond You - Afraid of Sunlight -Marillion
visit WWW.Marillion.com for a better way of life.

FOLLOWMAL

Thursday, April 19, 2007 5:03 AM

Yes, please do direct everyone you know to the Drive myspace site so folks who haven't seen the eps can catch up.

Blog about Drive, talk to folks, share your enthusiasm about the show. Even if it's not your cup of tea... Nathan has come thru for fans time after time, let's come thru for him!

For more info about Nathan's new show, check out www.drivefans.com

JADEHAND

Thursday, April 19, 2007 5:44 AM

Absolutely FM, As I just explained to others elsewhere. the Show "Drive" is not about what the characters drive, it's about what drives the characters. Which is why the theme song has grown on me.
"how far... would you go?"

"I will stare from the window
At the shapes in the rain." -Beyond You - Afraid of Sunlight -Marillion
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SHAMELESS

Friday, April 20, 2007 10:19 AM

Yeah, and I love the theme song. I didn't get to see the premiere on tv - had to watch it online. I'm hooked! ^.^

And here's a loverly picture for you...

Sexy Alex Tully. The real Alex Tully. (bonus points if you can spot where I snagged this screenshot - and all by myself, too!)

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XEYRA

Friday, April 20, 2007 11:03 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by shameless:
Yeah, and I love the theme song. I didn't get to see the premiere on tv - had to watch it online. I'm hooked! ^.^

And here's a loverly picture for you...

Sexy Alex Tully. The real Alex Tully. (bonus points if you can spot where I snagged this screenshot - and all by myself, too!)

It's just after he passes Rob and Ellie Laird's car. I LOVE that smirk.

"People tell you things all the time, without talking. The way they move, the way they aren't talking." - River Tam

CYBERSNARK

Friday, April 20, 2007 1:49 PM

And for those of you who can't view the Myspace page, Canada's CJOH will be re-running "Let The Games Begin" (the third episode) tonight at 9.

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LADYSERENITY

Friday, April 20, 2007 8:20 PM

okay so I had been waiting to see Drive for months since the promos started airing and the sight of Nathan on that TV screen was a beautiful thing.
So my friend (who like Firefly well enough) says hey that show Drive has Mal in it doesn't it, (after she saw a promo) Yes! I replied rather ecstatic.
I have been labeled obsessed by the way, Obsessed with Nathan Fillion, Imagine! Okay so it is true, but I only share that with priviledged parties, like you fine folks. Anyway I started watching because of Nathan and will keep watching because of Nathan but I also genuinly am enjoying this show. There is just something about fast cars driven by Nathan Fillion to get a girl's heart rate up. I caught the Early/Mal thing with surprise and my brother turned to me when we first saw Alex Tully's wife's photo. "That is Fred!" we cried together with big grins on our faces saying how cool that was. I will glady tune in again and hope that the series lasts for a while.
The whole "You want to meet the real me" thing made me grin and my mom and brother were wondering what I was thinking and I didn't enlighten them, if they don't remember where it is from,well too bad. I get labled obsessed if I open my mouth.
There was a part in the ealy part of the first episode that for some reason made me go "mmm boy" or something similar in my head. When Alex comes into the orientation conference room late and the little chairperson man is being smart with him about where his wife is. Then Alex grabs the little man's shirt and lifts him up and slams him on the table, Alex had had enough messing around. I found Alex/Nathan to be very sexy when he did that( not sure why considering all the assult going on, but hey there it is)
I like the little playing on words of the riddles and the emerging storylines and secrets of the Drivers. I will keep watching.

Once you've been in Serenity you never leave. You find a way to live in it.

AVALONSMOMMY

Friday, April 20, 2007 8:33 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by History:
Still love the nod to the Firefly fans with Richard Brooks (Jubal Early) at the opening:
"Your wife packed, does that seem right to you?"
Loved it.
Thanks, Tim.

Respectfully,
History

Okay, I watched that part a couple of times over, and never heard him say that!

Burn the land and boil the sea; you can't take the sky from me

AVALONSMOMMY

Friday, April 20, 2007 8:42 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by trogdor1289:
Precisely and so thinking laterally which I believe he commented on the race leader guy handing out tickets. She wasn't in the car when it reached the finish line and that was the requirements given to her.

That car never reached the finish line--she shot out all of its tires!

Burn the land and boil the sea; you can't take the sky from me

AVALONSMOMMY

Friday, April 20, 2007 8:50 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by deepgirl187:
*shiver, shiver, shudder*

It looks like Wendy may end up discovering her backbone. I wonder what that means for her partner.

*sigh*

One more week...

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"If you want to win a war, you must serve no master but your ambition."

I agree with Wendy's statement "I think I should have shot you". I cannot stand that girl, whatever her name is. And the brother whose every other word is "homes" also needs to be shot. So does the military wife. She's about as stupid as they come. I like the father/daughter team though, and Wendy, and the younger brother.

Burn the land and boil the sea; you can't take the sky from me

SPACEGIRL32

Friday, April 20, 2007 9:00 PM

Shameless,

You are too much!

Love the picture of Nathan.....er, I mean Alex!

Glad to hear you are enjoying Drive.

MSG

Friday, April 20, 2007 9:10 PM

OK best Fireflyesque line has to be
" Do you think the secret cabal that runs this illegal race has roadside assistance?"

It's great and well written...but hopefully not doomed.

"I'm not all that interested in the mental health of people who want to kill me. "- Leroy Jethro Gibbs

SHINY

Friday, April 20, 2007 9:59 PM

Meh. Not to be a downer, but my suspension of disbelief just does not extend to dozens of people with missing wives, daughters, or other loved ones choosing *NOT* to beat powerpoint man to the ground and call the police. The chances of tracing him back to whoever is pulling the strings has got to be better than the 1-in-lots-of-people chance of winning the race (plus having to believe that the bastards who set you up in this situation are going to live up to their word).

Sorry Tim, I really wanted to like it.

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DANIELFYRE

Friday, April 20, 2007 10:20 PM

I love the song, does anyone know where I can hear the full version? I've been looking for a few days now and found out its called Fallen by Gavin Rossdale and is going to be on his new CD...if anyone knows where I can hear it please post a link here it would be greatly appreciated.

-DanielFyre

"real men juggle geese"

CYBERSNARK

Friday, April 20, 2007 10:42 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Shiny:
Meh. Not to be a downer, but my suspension of disbelief just does not extend to dozens of people with missing wives, daughters, or other loved ones

Actually, the impression I got is that Tully is the only one coerced into the race. Most of the other racers we've met (and, I'd wager, most of those we haven't) are there voluntarily.

Besides, "disqualification" likely means death for whoever got taken. It's a hostage situation.

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SHAMELESS

Friday, April 20, 2007 11:13 PM

DanielFyre: I actually found the song on the Fox Drive site. I couldn't get a link, the way the window popped up, but all you have to do is on the main page, under the News section, the last thing is Listen to the theme song, and you get the whole bundle of shinyness. Enjoy!

Cybersnark: I don't think disqualification means that the person they care for is killed. Corrina wasn't killed, remember - and her parents were just as good as disqualified. Besides, they wouldn't need to kill anybody. It's just as bad knowing that you'll never see them again.

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Landmines - $50 per
Attack/track dogs bred 1st class - $250-500 per
Highpowered assault rifles - $600 per
The look on your face when I show up on your doorstep with a bigfoot - ... Priceless

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Can't stop the signal."
-reavers_ate_my_dvd

DIRTWEED

Friday, April 20, 2007 11:30 PM

OMG with work and all the travel I forgot all about this. I know, I need a whipping. Just watched this weeks ep online. Wow I love it!

Dirtweed

Shiny! I got my picture back.

ADAPA

Saturday, April 21, 2007 2:15 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by shameless:

And here's a loverly picture for you...

Thank you thank you thank you!!

set as my desktop

WACKYNEPHEW

Saturday, April 21, 2007 5:25 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by adapa:
Quote:
Originally posted by shameless:

And here's a loverly picture for you...

This was the precise moment I started to think that maybe somewhere down the line, Alex is going to regress into the criminal he may have been before. Kinda like in the movie A History of Violence with Viggo Mortensen. He may very well have to be, to save his wife.

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ADAPA

Saturday, April 21, 2007 2:40 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by WackyNephew:
This was the precise moment I started to think that maybe somewhere down the line, Alex is going to regress into the criminal he may have been before. Kinda like in the movie A History of Violence with Viggo Mortensen. He may very well have to be, to save his wife.

I agree. On another board I've been referring to the two Alex's as, the getaway & gardener Tully. I think this was the first time we got to see Getaway Tully.

CYBERSNARK

Saturday, April 21, 2007 2:48 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by shameless:
Corrina wasn't killed, remember - and her parents were just as good as disqualified.

I imagine a distinction, though, between "losing/being eliminated" (through no fault of your own) and "disqualification" (through breaking the Race's rules). Corrina's parents died, but I've seen no indication (*) that they broke any regulations or did anything untoward.

(* I've recorded the third ep, but haven't watched it yet.)

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ZZETTA13

Saturday, April 21, 2007 5:05 PM

Alex Tully with a mysterious secret past? I'm getting vissions of a tall,lean, servent of the man up-stairs name of Shepherd Book

Z

KAYNA

Saturday, April 21, 2007 5:53 PM

Ok, am I the only one who thinks that Wendy's new "partner" isn't what she seems. I didn't notice anything the first time I watched it but rewatched on the myspace and noticed a little slip.

When Wendy is pointeing the gun at her she says thay are making her do it and that if blondy's still in that car at the next checkpoint than she, Wendy, is out. She never says anything about a penalty. So far the only one we've seen taht seem to know about them are Wendy herself, Corinna who has previous knowledge of the race, and noncontestants. Yet blondy's exact line is "You want to make good on your penalty?" How does she know it was a penalty?

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SINGATE

Saturday, April 21, 2007 6:33 PM

I think we have to assume at least one of the participants is a plant. Also, before the season ends at least one of the main characters will probably be killed.

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ADAPA

Saturday, April 21, 2007 8:31 PM

An additional theory that I can not take credit for is that each person(team) is sponsored by someone and that sponsor can help his team, i.e. the fake cop, charger & Tully. I apologize if this has been gone over at the top of the thread, I have not read the entire thing.

GHOULFISH

Sunday, April 22, 2007 12:18 AM

Just curious but is the guy who played Early (the bounty hunter) and the cop the same actor?

PS I like his new ride - real spiffy

http://picasaweb.google.com/ghoulfish/Hiahiah/photo#504383828540607891
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ADAPA

Sunday, April 22, 2007 12:23 AM

yes, same actor

CYBERSNARK

Sunday, April 22, 2007 2:19 AM

Okay, I finally watched the third ep, and I have only one thought:

Were they all sent to the drive-in to watch Serenity?

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SHAMELESS

Sunday, April 22, 2007 6:45 AM

Ohhhh, that would be awesome! The beginning of the next episode:

Everybody singing along to the Ballad of Firefly. And then they get to Serenity, and they have to race to the finish line to get a sequel!

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RPG launcher bought in third world country illegally - $10
Landmines - $50 per
Attack/track dogs bred 1st class - $250-500 per
Highpowered assault rifles - $600 per
The look on your face when I show up on your doorstep with a bigfoot - ... Priceless

"You gotta love that the first pirated HD DVD is the one about space pirates who broadcast a video that the government wants to keep secret.

Can't stop the signal."
-reavers_ate_my_dvd

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