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JERAXUS

Tuesday, February 27, 2007 3:40 PM

HA HA HA HA we get the new series of DW before you americans

but seriesly youve been included in the 3rd series with the 2 part episode "daleks in manhattan"

Play with the best die like the rest

LETOV

Tuesday, February 27, 2007 4:05 PM

Painful jeering aside, when does the 3rd series start, or has it already?

- Leto_V

"Well, my days of not taking you
seriously are certainly coming to
a middle." - Mal

EVERYTHINGSSHINY2K6

Tuesday, February 27, 2007 10:57 PM

No its not started yet, tho it has if you count the Christmas Day Special as the 1st episode of the series

I've just checked the Doctor Who website their only saying spring at the moment and that they wont know until about 2 weeks before it goes out. I think last year it started late March/early April over here so it will be starting soon.

Personally I cant wait for the new series of Torchwood to start up. Although I dont know if thats aired in the US or anywhere else yet.

JERAXUS

Thursday, March 1, 2007 11:53 AM

episode 1 is broadcast on bbc1 sataday 24th of march with the episode smith and jones

(smith is a reference to the doctor who has used the alias previously while Jones is the surname of the new companion (not in that sense of the word) a trainee doctor)

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Martha: eople call you 'the doctor'?
Doc: yep
Martha: well im not - as far as im concerned you've got to earn that title

starts in a hospital and ends up on the moon with a group or herd of alien Rhino soldiers

simply classic

Ep2 is the sha

Play with the best die like the rest

LESATHER

Sunday, March 18, 2007 11:19 PM

The start date for Doctor Who was pushed back to 31 March because of a football (soccer) match the BBC decided to televise on the 24th.

"Jayne is a girl's name" - River

KNOCKER

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 2:24 PM

now on episode 3 and loving it :)

"Wait, what the hell was that?!"

CORNCOBB

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 2:40 PM

Is it just me, or is this the best season so far?

"Gorramit Mal... I've forgotten my line."

LESATHER

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 9:28 PM

I do agree this is shaping up to be a great season! Absolutely LOVED "The Shakespeare Code"! I can't wait for "Daleks in Manhatten"...even though I also feel the Daleks have been over-used since the series came back in 2005. Plenty of other alien races to explore besides re-inventing the Daleks (again).

"Jayne is a girl's name" - River

DESKTOPHIPPIE

Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:00 PM

I felt the first episode suffered a bit from firstepisodeitis. The second was loads of fun, and playing "spot the reference" was a fun way to spend the episode.

The third episode was the best so far, and one of the best episodes of the last three seasons. I really enjoyed it. Yes, I know there were plot holes. I don't care. It was fun and enjoyable and packed an emotional punch. Who could ask for more?

My only complaint is that they seem to be setting up a Martha/Doc relationship and I don't buy it. I don't see any chemistry between them. I think she makes a great assistant and I like the character, but I don't get the same tension I got between the Doc and Rose. Maybe it's just too soon for me after that relationship? I'll see how it developes over the coming weeks.

Did anyone else flash back to the Ariel scenes in Serenity when they showed what had happened to the city? I want to know if that was just me. *has Serenity on the brain*

Also...

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who else was totally unsurprised by The Face of Bo's final words? I guess this means The Master is coming back?

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KNOCKER

Wednesday, April 18, 2007 9:46 AM

I reckon the whole point of the last episode was to hear the 'Face of Bo' tell his secret, is any one else thinking what I'm thinking about that little revelation?! (answers on a post card!)

"Wait, what the hell was that?!"

GRIZWALD

Wednesday, April 18, 2007 6:37 PM

Not really on track with the rest of this thread, as I have only seen Season 1 so far, but...

Am I the only female watcher who could never understand why Rose wouldn't simply jump The Doctor's bones and get to work on restoring the Time Lord race? I sure would.

Of course since Chris Eccleston is no longer The Doctor I probably won't feel that way anymore. That man is scrumptious.

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LWAVES

Wednesday, April 18, 2007 9:06 PM

I too an loving this series so far.

I really liked the first episode of this season.
When the Doctor was in the hospital he really looked like he was enjoying playing with the humans, (talking about Ben Franklin and when Martha found his second heart).
Also loved the but when the Doctor told Martha her mate wasn't coming with them coz she'd just slow them down. And it made her cry!! Poor girl but it was very funny.

The Face of Bo's revelation is fairly obvious, unless that's what they want you to think!!!

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In DW Confidential, David Tennant said that whilst Bo is right about him not being alone, the Doctor is also right about being the only Time Lord. The Master is from Gallifrey but was kicked out from being a Time Lord for his crimes.

Also the 'keywords' this season are apparently Mr. Saxon. It was used in the first episode.
Apparently, again, the finale features a character called Mr. Saxon (rumoured to be played by John Simm of Life On Mars).

Guess we'll have to wait and see.

"If I hear voices and someone is really there, does that mean I'm going REALLY crazy?"

GRIZWALD

Wednesday, April 18, 2007 9:23 PM

Finally found out what is probably old news to everyone else, which is why it's so hard to find Season 2 on DVD region 1. Evidently a ton of them went out with errors on Disk 1 and were recalled. You are watching innocently along with children in the room and then suddenly BAM you're watching a scene from Texas Chainsaw Massacre that was so awful that it got cut from the theatrical release, something about an old man's legs getting cut off. Whew! Evidently only Disk 1 has the problem, and not all of them, but I can see why it was pulled.

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KNOCKER

Thursday, April 19, 2007 3:06 PM

Try a little digging for the name Saxon, you come up with some interesting stuff :)

"Wait, what the hell was that?!"

GRIZWALD

Saturday, April 21, 2007 4:11 AM

Wisconsin Public Television is airing Season One on Friday nights!

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IMNOTHERE

Saturday, April 21, 2007 4:56 PM

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Originally posted by Grizwald:
Am I the only female watcher who could never understand why Rose wouldn't simply jump The Doctor's bones and get to work on restoring the Time Lord race? I sure would.

In the original series the Doctor was usually played by an older man, but still travelled with a sucession of comely young ladies. So, to actually get romantically involved with one of them would be a bit taboo (especially in 1963). The new version is probably pushing this as far as it can go.

What may not be obvious if you're watching outside the UK on DVD or a specialist cable channel is that Dr Who is mainstream here - brand recognition to rival or possibly exceed Star Wars and original Trek. Heck, it ran for 25+ years, and most of that time there were only 3 TV channels. Its also firmly aimed at a family audience, and goes out at 7pm Saturday (6:35 tonight :-)). If the Doctor actually boffed a Companion then there would probably be questions asked in Parliament.

KAYNA

Saturday, April 21, 2007 5:08 PM

Hey Grizwald. No you are not alone but I much prefered David Tennant as The Doctor. It's a moot point now though what with Rose being inacsessable and all. And I understand INHs bit of info as well. Family show and all.

And the rest of you are just getting me all worked up. I don't know what you are all talking about as I'm a poor deprived American but I've been going crazy for some expaination since the season two ender.

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Some woman in what appears to be a wedding dress just appears out of nowhere on the Tardis while it's orbiting a SUN?!?!!! I need some kind of expaination here!

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Mal: Yeah, well I'm known for that.

LESATHER

Sunday, April 22, 2007 2:39 AM

Your wait will be over when Sci-Fi channel airs "The Runaway Bride" this summer.

As for this week's episode "Daleks in Manhattan"

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"Oh, I should have realised...he's into musical theatre, huh? What a waste."

I laughed so hard at that one!

WHOOPS

Sunday, April 22, 2007 4:58 PM

I didnt think Daleks in Manhattan was any good i prefered the Gridlock episode even though this one had daleks in. I didnt find it too exciting.

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don't love, she'll shake you off sure as a turnin' of worlds. Love keeps her in
the air when she oughtta fall down. Tells you she's hurtin' 'fore she keens.
Makes her a home." Mal

DESKTOPHIPPIE

Sunday, April 22, 2007 5:03 PM

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Originally posted by knocker:
Try a little digging for the name Saxon, you come up with some interesting stuff :)

That sounds like work. Post it here so I don't have to do it.

Now, dammit! *crosses arms and taps foot impatiently*

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COSMICFUGITIVE

Sunday, April 22, 2007 5:31 PM

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'Daleks In Manhatten' was an incredibly brave episode. It didn't quite have the punch as last week's episode, but they've advanced the mythology of the Daleks in a bold and interesting way. It'll be cool to see how it pans out.

The hybrid Human Dalek didn't look too scary, although that's down to the fact that it's a family show. From a positive and technical standpoint, the animatronics are kick ass this year. The Rhino head and the Dalek Human hybrid are impressive for a tv show.

The tone of the third series is very comic bookesque too, moreso than the previous two. That's not a bad thing though. It gives it a cool stylised look.

Although, I feel there's a sense of de ja vu with the stories. This might just be the Doctor looking for some familiarity after the loss of Rose. Even Martha raised that point in the last episode.

For example, 'The Shakespeare Code' was kind of reminiscent of 'The Unquiet Dead' from series one. It contained two famous English writers and an evil portal.

It's true that the series repeats certain elements. There will always be 'historicals' in the show, although I feel they're sorta following too much of a similar pattern. Why does it have to be two historical writers and a rift/portal of some kind?

'Daleks In Manhatten' was reminiscent of 'Dalek' in series one. Both episodes featured a power hungry American, and Daleks contaminated with/changing through human DNA. (Rose's DNA regenerated and altered the Dalek in series one, and Sek merged itself with human DNA in 'Daleks in New York.')

The third series seems to combine parts of series one and two. I'm maybe overanalysing, but it is odd to see these trends. Is it a lazy repetition of a theme, just a deliberate and subtle hint at something planned for series three (Russel T Davis has said in interview that he has been leading up to certain events this series. It might be related to the Saxon story arc and not the Dalek one though) or is it my imagination?

Overall, I still love David Tennnant's performance this series. It's the strongest thus far. Freema Aygeman is a great addition to the show. I'm also eagerly awaiting the return of Captain Jack Harkness this series too. That's gonna be cracking!

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- 'The Good Samaritan', NCIS.

LESATHER

Monday, April 23, 2007 3:59 AM

I completely agree with your points about how this seems like a combination of series one and two (so far). I also agree that David has never been better and that Freema is a wonderful addition to the cast.

The one point I seem to be at odds with everyone is over how good "Gridlock" was. I found it slow and almost boring, yet everyone else talks about how much they enjoyed it. I accept that I may have missed the point of it, so I even went back and rewatched it, and I still found it lacking. Other than that story I have been loving this season!

"Jayne is a girl's name" - River

KNOCKER

Monday, April 23, 2007 7:52 AM

Ok, before you guys start throwing things at me, I want to state that I love Dr Who. ok? got that? right. So can someone please tell me why the Manhattan episode was so bad? the plot was obvious, there were no twists or turns in the narrative, and only a few of the characters were believable. Add that to the fact that the BBC has taken on the wonderful habit of previewing the episode JUST ABOUT TO START and you can start to see my annoyance. True, only the first part has been aired, and I live in hope that Mr Davis has taken back the reigns for it, and somehow manages to turn it around.

Granted, we all know (or can guess) that something big is coming up this series, but it feels like there just going through the motions of getting rid of one story line so they can focus on that. Strikes me as a bit of a shame, that's all. But of course, that's just my opinion..*ducks*

"Wait, what the hell was that?!"

STEGASAURUS

Monday, April 23, 2007 8:36 PM

I dunno, Knocker....

I really liked this episode. What I really really liked was that the actors were doing a very fair job at the American accents. Unfortunately Fred's (I think that was his name: young kid, one of the ones caught for the Final Experiment) accent sounded less Tennessee and more Arkansas/Texan, but meh I still liked it.

But, enough with the nitpicking on my part. I really did enjoy this episode. As I've stated before, I really like Martha more than Rose. Now, don't get me wrong, I actually really liked Billie Piper and her character! I just like Martha better. That's just me though.

So far, I've got to say, Season 3 is turning out quite excellent!

Oh, and on a side note:

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I realized those of us in the U.S. are not supposed to lay eyes on Torchwood, but I did! And I really liked it....ALOT. My only complaint with it was having Capt. Jack's sexual preferences known. I will freely admit I am extremely prudish in my ways, and I have a hard time seeing past my upbringing in this particular matter. That and the swearing. It just seems like they are doing it just because they can. But then again, maybe it's just me...

That is not to say that I don't like the character or the series. I immensely enjoyed watching them and cannot wait to see more!

My wife, on the other hand, cannot stand these shows simply because she cannot understand a word anyone is saying, and because she just doesn't "get" british humor. Meh...her loss

DESKTOPHIPPIE

Monday, April 23, 2007 8:49 PM

Thanks CosmicFugitive for the info!

Knocker - you didn't like the episode? I did! Okay, I knew where they were going with the final experiment, but it's still a bold move for the Daleks story wise. In fact, it pretty much changes their entire outlook and makes them more dangerous than ever. It's not the results of the experiment itself that makes them so dangerous now, it's the fact that they experimented at all with the one thing that means more to them than anything else in the universe - and dared to change it.

I also quite liked the characters. Okay, Solomon was a bit cliche (the dividing the loaf in half made me giggle) but still, an interesting depiction of a troubled leader. The kid was a bit gee wizz mister for me, but he was pretty much there to be Mr. Nice Guy in Danger. Same goes for Lazlo. As for Tallulah, I *love* Tallulah! C'mon, you have to have loved Tallulah!

About the only part that grated for me was the needlessly long reunion scene between Lazlo and Tallulah. "But who are you? But who are you? But who are you?" Seriously, you haven't figured it out by now??? Anyway, I let that slide since I enjoyed the dance scene so much. They're really throwing themselves into the production this year!

And we get a battle scene next week. Yay!

Okay, not a spoiler so much as my own personal pet theory, but I'll spoiler it anyway since it mentioned season specifics.

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The Face of Bo said that The Doctor wasn't alone, and we've all taken that to mean the Master. And I won't be dissapointed if it is, even if the world and it's mother *has* guessed what's going on. Still, since everyone *has* guessed, and since we've seen a human becoming a Dalek, I'd love if they took it in an entirely different direction - if we saw some random human becoming a Time Lord.

I don't know how it would work - evolution or the Time Lord power drifting randomly about without a home and settling on a human - but it would be interesting to see The Doctor take a fledgeling Time Lord under his wing. It would also mean he'd be really emotionally invested in the new Time Lord without the writers having to make them a couple. Much more parent/child. I think it could be an interesting dynamic.

Just a random idea. Ramdom idea shredding begins >>> NOW!

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FANTY

Monday, April 23, 2007 10:10 PM

*Has already seen most of season 3, lives in America* Trust me, season three is apparently back to black and white. What happened to DT? The third season has some old dude. I thought it was gonna be good. It sucked. Old farts are back, cool dudes in Converse High Tops are gone... *******************************

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"Fanty's prettier."

DESKTOPHIPPIE

Monday, April 23, 2007 10:16 PM

Uh... what show are you watching???

I think you may be watching the *actual* third season of the show from back in the sixties, not the third season of the new incarnation. I could be wrong, but nothing you've said so far sounds accurate.

STEGASAURUS

Monday, April 23, 2007 10:19 PM

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Originally posted by Fanty:
*Has already seen most of season 3, lives in America* Trust me, season three is apparently back to black and white. What happened to DT? The third season has some old dude. I thought it was gonna be good. It sucked. Old farts are back, cool dudes in Converse High Tops are gone... *******************************

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"Mal, how can you always tell?"
"Fanty's prettier."

I cannot even comprehend what you are saying here. I mean you have your opinion, but I cannot even fathom where you are coming from. So far, I think the season's been brilliant.

That, of course, is just my 2cents worth.

DESKTOPHIPPIE

Monday, April 23, 2007 10:26 PM

Yeah, I'm pretty convinced you're watching an older season. Way old, if it's one of the black and white ones. Don't panic, DT hasn't gone anywhere!

STEGASAURUS

Monday, April 23, 2007 10:38 PM

I didn't even think that maybe he had fallen upon the older eps. I just thought he was bashing DT. lol

DESKTOPHIPPIE

Monday, April 23, 2007 10:40 PM

It was the "some old dude" and the "black and white" that clued me in. Which means some TV station must be advertising season 3, knowing people will assume it's the new season! That's *really* mean! I mean, I know a lot of people will guess what's going on, but it's still mean!

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LESATHER

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 12:34 AM

I found out last week that my local PBS station was running the 2005 series! Okay, I already have those episodes on DVD, but it is nice to see the 'uncut' versions on American television!!!

For anyone who hasn't heard yet:

In a press release issued today, SCI FI Channel and BBC Worldwide Americas announced a major acquisition deal for the U.S. premiere of the third season of Doctor Who. The series will debut on SCI FI in July 2007, kicking off with the Doctor Who Christmas Special, The Runaway Bride, guest-starring award-winning comedy actress Catherine Tate.

"Jayne is a girl's name" - River

STEGASAURUS

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 1:44 AM

While I've been watching season 3, I hadn't seen the Christmas Special. That outta be cool.

CRUITHNE3753

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 2:02 AM

Am I bovvered though?

(Well, someone had to...)

LESATHER

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 3:50 AM

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Originally posted by Cruithne3753:
Am I bovvered though?

(Well, someone had to...)

Have you seen the Comic Relief sketches from last month with Catherine Tate? LOVED the one with her and David Tennant. Catherine and Tony Blair was also very good!

"Bite me alien boy!"

"Jayne is a girl's name" - River

KNOCKER

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 2:19 PM

Ok, fair enough. I agree that so far the series has been great (besides my previously voiced concerns):) but the last one just left me a bit cold, that's all. My friends and I tried very hard to avoid all spoilers on the run up to the broadcast, but when there's a shot of the end result on the cover of radio times its a bit hard to miss! Still, I am looking forward to next weeks episode, just to see that the hell the guys were doing on top of the Empire State building!

Vote Saxon!

"Wait, what the hell was that?!"

IMNOTHERE

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 7:32 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DesktopHippie:
It was the "some old dude" and the "black and white" that clued me in. Which means some TV station must be advertising season 3, knowing people will assume it's the new season! That's *really* mean! I mean, I know a lot of people will guess what's going on, but it's still mean!

Methinks there's a troll about. You wouldn't mistake "original" series 3 for a television program made in the last 30 years (thats assuming that series 3 still exists - lots of the early episodes got wiped).

DESKTOPHIPPIE

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 7:38 PM

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Originally posted by ImNotHere:
Quote:
Originally posted by DesktopHippie:
It was the "some old dude" and the "black and white" that clued me in. Which means some TV station must be advertising season 3, knowing people will assume it's the new season! That's *really* mean! I mean, I know a lot of people will guess what's going on, but it's still mean!

Methinks there's a troll about. You wouldn't mistake "original" series 3 for a television program made in the last 30 years (thats assuming that series 3 still exists - lots of the early episodes got wiped).

Innocent 'till proven guilty! He didn't post anything after the initial post. It could just be an honest mistake.

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FIZZIX

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 10:23 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Stegasaurus:
Quote:
Originally posted by Fanty:
*Has already seen most of season 3, lives in America* Trust me, season three is apparently back to black and white. What happened to DT? The third season has some old dude. I thought it was gonna be good. It sucked. Old farts are back, cool dudes in Converse High Tops are gone... *******************************

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"Mal, how can you always tell?"
"Fanty's prettier."

I cannot even comprehend what you are saying here. I mean you have your opinion, but I cannot even fathom where you are coming from. So far, I think the season's been brilliant.

That, of course, is just my 2cents worth.

He does that on purpose. XD

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LESATHER

Tuesday, May 1, 2007 9:34 PM

My 10th Doctor's jacket...along with the Converse high-tops

"Jayne is a girl's name" - River

LESATHER

Sunday, May 6, 2007 7:11 AM

SPOILER ALERT:

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If the warning to Martha's mum came directly from Mr. Saxon, then you have to wonder just how many bodies the Master has taken over since that is not the same "man" we know to be Mr. Saxon later in the season.

Just my initial reaction.

"Jayne is a girl's name" - River

NAFLM

Sunday, May 6, 2007 5:19 PM

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Originally posted by lesather:
SPOILER ALERT:

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If the warning to Martha's mum came directly from Mr. Saxon, then you have to wonder just how many bodies the Master has taken over since that is not the same "man" we know to be Mr. Saxon later in the season.

Just my initial reaction.

Well,

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Perhaps the message came from Mr. Saxon but was delivered by someone else? Kind of like saying an order comes "straight from the top".

LWAVES

Monday, May 7, 2007 10:05 AM

Well here's my thoughts on the last couple of comments....

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I think the man was Saxon, he seemed to know who the Doctor was and stuff about him. If he was just a second in command or whatever then he wouldn't have made the earlier comments to Martha's mum.
The fact that Saxon was involved in this kind of experiment leads me to think that he is still looking for ways to prolong his life/regenerate etc. I seem to remember this being something he was after the last time we saw him with the earlier Doctor's.
Maybe the person we think is going to play Saxon will be the revealing change to the Doctor, the point when he realises who it really is?? Maybe, maybe not.

On a different story I have an idea of how the Daleks can come back. When the Doctor was on top of the Empire State Building and the lightning hit him it added Timelord DNA into the experiment. Now the surviving Dalek was linked up to this, so what if the Doctor's DNA entered the Dalek, therefore allowing it to regenerate, and any clones it then makes of itself. The Dalek said that their earlier experiments hadn't succeeded but now maybe they will. Also, it wouldn't be the first time they have used Timelord tech to survive.

"If I hear voices and someone is really there, does that mean I'm going REALLY crazy?"

WHOOPS

Monday, May 7, 2007 3:23 PM

Im afraid theres going to be a two week wait now till the next episode which looks awsome from the little trailor i saw at the end of the last episode.

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"Love. You can do all the math in the 'Verse, but you take a boat in the air you
don't love, she'll shake you off sure as a turnin' of worlds. Love keeps her in
the air when she oughtta fall down. Tells you she's hurtin' 'fore she keens.
Makes her a home." Mal

STEGASAURUS

Tuesday, May 8, 2007 11:14 PM

It seems to me that they resolved the whole Martha - Doctor relationship. While it was never verbalized, it seemed to me that Martha established her role as Companion (or friend) to The Doctor, and not a new love interest.

Did anyone else get that feeling, or am I just grasping at straws here?

Oh btw, since I live in the U.S. and my exposure to Doctor Who is sporadic at best, would someone mind telling me which incarnation out of 12 we are at? Thanks a ton!

LESATHER

Wednesday, May 9, 2007 7:07 AM

David Tennant is the 10th Doctor (since he can regenerate 12 times, he would actually have 13 'lives').

"Jayne is a girl's name" - River

STEGASAURUS

Wednesday, May 9, 2007 5:00 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by lesather:
David Tennant is the 10th Doctor (since he can regenerate 12 times, he would actually have 13 'lives').

"Jayne is a girl's name" - River

Thank you!

IMNOTHERE

Friday, May 11, 2007 5:52 PM

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It seems to me that they resolved the whole Martha - Doctor relationship. While it was never verbalized, it seemed to me that Martha established her role as Companion (or friend) to The Doctor, and not a new love interest.

More along the lines of Martha definitely wants the Doctor's babies (can't judge for myself but I understand that Mr Tennant is considered "well fit" by much of the female - and some of the male - population) but he is still carrying a torch for Rose.

However, I think this was the first ep. that they didn't make some reference to Rose - so maybe that was the intention.

On one of the "Dr Who Confidential" shows (basically, in the UK, the DVD-extras-to-be are shown on a minority digital-only channel after the episode on BBC1) RTD said that there's going to be an unrequited love theme this time round.

GEEKMAFIA

Friday, May 11, 2007 6:28 PM

I think the trailer they showed wasn't for the next ep it was for the rest of the season, still it was awesome.

After the next ep there's an upcoming 2-parter written by the guy who wrote "fathers day" (from the first season of this new batch of Doctor Who).
Which I'm looking forward to. Also this whole "Saxon" deal is really interesting

speculation:

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I reckon that it is the guy from the previews (John Simm) and not the chap who was talking to Martha's mum. I agree with the idea that the "information came directly from Mr Saxon" in the sense of "came straight from the top" not directly as in it was him whispering in her ear. I doubt Mr Saxon would get so little attention at a big posh gathering like that.
I do think it's likely Saxon'll turn out to be The Master but it might be a red herring. I love the idea that Simm might be playing a timelord after life on mars

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LESATHER

Sunday, May 13, 2007 1:50 AM

In a recent interview on "Parkinson", David Tennant did seem to indicate there was a lot more going on than anyone realizes yet...

"Jayne is a girl's name" - River

CRUITHNE3753

Sunday, May 13, 2007 12:26 PM

Well last night for a moment I thought I saw the scariest monster that's ever appeared on Doctor Who, when I suddenly remembered that it was in fact the Ukrainian entry for the Eurovision Song Contest...

HOBBLEIT

Sunday, May 13, 2007 12:50 PM

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Originally posted by Cruithne3753:
Well last night for a moment I thought I saw the scariest monster that's ever appeared on Doctor Who, when I suddenly remembered that it was in fact the Ukrainian entry for the Eurovision Song Contest...

lol. Yes that was quite disturbing

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EMMARIGBY

Sunday, May 13, 2007 1:04 PM

I've just downloaded the Children in need special 15 minute ep that covered the gap between the first and second series. Brilliant for helping me get through the Who vacation.

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CRUITHNE3753

Saturday, May 19, 2007 7:04 PM

This evening's episode "42" -
"Sunshine" cash-in or what?

IMNOTHERE

Saturday, May 19, 2007 7:34 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Cruithne3753:
This evening's episode "42" -
"Sunshine" cash-in or what?

There was an element of Deja Vu, yes... I'm sure that all these things (2 films about giant meteors in the same year, 2 series about UN-in-space spacestations, 2 fact-based films about the same squeaky-voiced author, 374 computer animations about anthropomorphic animals getting lost...) are total coincidences, though.

P.s. - Martha's "theme" in the score - Shrek, anyone?

LESATHER

Monday, June 4, 2007 6:03 AM

After being slightly disappointed with "42", I was completely blown away with "Human Nature"/"Family of Blood". Two of the best episodes in the history of the series (going back to 1963, not just 2005).

David was amazing in the subtle differences he brought to "Mr. Smith", which I really didn't appreciate until he became "the Doctor" again. I was close to tears at the end.

"Jayne is a girl's name" - River

LWAVES

Monday, June 4, 2007 5:17 PM

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Originally posted by lesather:
After being slightly disappointed with "42", I was completely blown away with "Human Nature"/"Family of Blood". Two of the best episodes in the history of the series (going back to 1963, not just 2005).

David was amazing in the subtle differences he brought to "Mr. Smith", which I really didn't appreciate until he became "the Doctor" again. I was close to tears at the end.

"Jayne is a girl's name" - River

Yeah I really loved these two episodes as well.
They really showed that he wasn't the same person at all. It wasn't just the Doctor without his Timelord part, John Smith really was a whole other person, a part of the Doctor that very rarely, if ever gets out.
I genuinely felt sorry for him when knew what must be done, and made the decision. So brave of that character.
But having said that it was good to have our Doctor back and fiddling with controls that he shouldn't be messing with.
David Tennant really does a brilliant job of playing up the eccentric, slighty crazy side of the Doctor. And makes it very funny too.

"If I hear voices and someone is really there, does that mean I'm going REALLY crazy?"

COSMICFUGITIVE

Monday, June 4, 2007 5:27 PM

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The scarecrows are the best Who baddies ever. Forget the Daleks or the Ood, or the Sea vampires, or any others.. The scarecrows rocked!

Nuff said.

The last two eps of the third season were fantastic. I was bit worried that The Family Of Blood would fall into the traditional 'rubbish second part' trap that does occasionally plague tv and movies, but it did the job. I was seriously impressed.

Also, the recent two parter had a gritty, adult, Torwood feel to it, and it was refreshing to see David Tennant showcase a little more of his talent.

I'll admit that I teared up at the end of 'Family Of Blood.' It was just a really touching moment when they visited the war memorial ceremony.

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Abby Sciouto: "Are either of you guys Libras?"
Tony Dinozzo & Kate Todd: "No."
Abby Sciouto: "Good thing 'cause they are so screwed this week!"

- 'The Good Samaritan', NCIS.

HOBBLEIT

Monday, June 4, 2007 5:38 PM

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Originally posted by lesather:
After being slightly disappointed with "42", I was completely blown away with "Human Nature"/"Family of Blood". Two of the best episodes in the history of the series (going back to 1963, not just 2005).

David was amazing in the subtle differences he brought to "Mr. Smith", which I really didn't appreciate until he became "the Doctor" again. I was close to tears at the end.

Oh, those episodes were so good. I too was nearly in tears at the end

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IMNOTHERE

Tuesday, June 5, 2007 2:39 PM

(PS: Don't see as the quote below was really a spoiler - but I'll respect the poster's judgement)

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Originally posted by CosmicFugitive:
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Also, the recent two parter had a gritty, adult, Torwood feel to it, and it was refreshing to see David Tennant showcase a little more of his talent.

Not surprising - it was adapted from one of the "New Adventures" novels published after the cancellation of the original series and firmly aimed at a more adult audience. Big hint to RTD: GOOD IDEA - TRY IT AGAIN SOON!

I wouldn't insult it by comparing it to Torchwood (which had its moments but was aptly described by a friend as "not really more adult, just less suitable for children").

The problem is I've just been re-watching Ultraviolet (The 90's mini-series, not the recent film - see http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0169501/) which is what I think Torchwood should have been like - especially as the writer/director has since been involved in Dr Who. OK, maybe they could have added a few laughs (UV is pretty downbeat).

CLJOHNSTON108

Wednesday, June 6, 2007 12:49 AM

I'm the only one I know who ever watched Doctor Who!
(Well, except for the English kid who first told me about it when I was 6)!
Didn't really start watching until I was in my early teens, then caught the tail-end of the Tom Baker era and most of the Peter Davison eps.
Oh, and the 1996 movie on F*x. (Loved the motorcycle dopplering through the TARDIS!)

Been watching the 2005 episodes here < http://tv-links.co.uk/>.

Like somebody mentioned, it's sometimes hard for a Yank like me to follow the dialogue in all it's "Brit-ness", so I look to...

Doctor Who [2005+] Transcripts
http://who-transcripts.atspace.com/index.htm

I just finished watching "The Doctor Dances", and I have to say I fall deeper in love with Rose with each passing episode!
How is that possible?
Because Rose is having so much damn FUN with this whole situation!
From the get-go, she acclimated really well, really quick!
None of that "This can't be real!" malarkey!
She's got the perfect attitude, and she asks the right questions.
(Billie Piper should work with Joss!)

Favorite Rose moments (So far!)...

Quote:
ROSE
Not very 'Spock', is it? Just asking?

[She is watching the Doctor trying to enter a door]

DOCTOR
Door - music - people. What d'you think?

ROSE [more forcefully]
I think you should do a scan for alien tech.

[The Doctor holds his sonic screwdriver to the door]

ROSE
Gimme some Spock! For once, would it kill ya?

Later...

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JACK
So, this companion of yours - does he handle the business?

ROSE
Well, I delegate a lot of that, yeah.

JACK
Well, maybe we should go find him.

ROSE
And how're you gonna do that?

JACK
Easy. I'll do a scan for alien tech.

[He begins the scan using the device on his wrist]

ROSE [to herself]
Finally, a professional.

And Christopher Eccleston is wonderful, too!
None too self-conscious about his looks, either!

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NANCY
How'd you follow me here?

DOCTOR
I'm good at following, me. Got the nose for it.

NANCY [suspicious]
People can't usually follow me if I don't want them to.

DOCTOR
My nose has special powers.

NANCY
Yeah? That's why it's uh...

DOCTOR
What?

NANCY
Nothing.

DOCTOR [persistently]
What?

NANCY [teasingly]
Nothing! Do your ears have special powers too?

DOCTOR [calmly]
What're you trying to say?

Can't easily imagine David Tennant & Freema Agyeman topping these performances, but I'm trying to keep an open mind.

STEGASAURUS

Wednesday, June 6, 2007 1:56 PM

I just finished watching "Family of Blood" and it was just wonderful! This 2-parter is definitely one of my favorites thus far!

I actually caught a tear in my eye at the end. I just wish one of these times that instead of a character catching The Doctor from afar, would instead walk (or wheel) up to him and shake his hand. That would just be downright awesome to me.

But, I guess it just wouldn't be Doctor Who if he did.

REGINAROADIE

Wednesday, June 6, 2007 4:00 PM

My brother is in Afghanistan, and he's asked me to download a bunch of stuff for him to watch and to send it over. I'm waiting for the last four eps of WHO to broadcast so that I can send the stuff to him. I literally cannot wait to hear his response to "Family of Blood" and the war memorial ending. I think he'll actually tear up.

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"No."
"Have you ever fired ONE gun whilst jumping through the air?"

WHOOPS

Sunday, June 10, 2007 3:51 PM

Yesterdays was really good i thought. And next weeks looks even better.

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don't love, she'll shake you off sure as a turnin' of worlds. Love keeps her in
the air when she oughtta fall down. Tells you she's hurtin' 'fore she keens.
Makes her a home." Mal

HOBBLEIT

Sunday, June 10, 2007 6:04 PM

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Originally posted by Whoops:
Yesterdays was really good i thought. And next weeks looks even better.

I thought yesterday's was fantastic.

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i thought they made good use of the lack of doctor and those weeping angels were downright creepy.

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LESATHER

Monday, June 11, 2007 12:16 AM

This week's episode was great. I was a bit concerned prior to watching it because of it being a "Doctor-lite" episode (and last year's "Love & Monsters" I thought was just terrible), but when I found out it was a Steven Moffat script my expectations were back up again.

VERY creepy, yet lots of fun (typical for a Steven Moffat script). I would love to see them bring Carey Mulligan ('Sally Sparrow') back next season, she was really good!

* Also, if Russell T. Davies does decide to leave the show as Executive Producer after next season...what about Steven Moffat to replace him? In addition to his great writing, four of the BEST episodes of the revived series, he does have Executive Producer credits from "Coupling". I think he could take the show in an interesting direction.
"Jayne is a girl's name" - River

LWAVES

Monday, June 11, 2007 5:47 PM

Carey Mulligan was great, especially since she was the main character in the show and was in almost every scene.
A nice build up that made you think wtf and then paid it all off.

I too was worried that this may be another Love & Monsters but it so wasn't. Great episode and those angels were definitely creepy. Might make you look twice or not blink when you pass by a statue.

Also the conversation with the DVD was funny and well done. Won't say to much more in case someone hasn't seen it yet.

Also I love these little snippets you see of adventures that don't get televised.

Looking forward to next week. The return of my second favourite captain...

"If I hear voices and someone is really there, does that mean I'm going REALLY crazy?"

STEGASAURUS

Monday, June 11, 2007 10:12 PM

Was "Love & Monsters" the one where Moaning Myrtle gets turned into a floor tile?
-If so, hated it.

I absolutely loved this episode. "Blink" had me on the edge of my chair. I thought it was awesome (if a tiny bit obvious) how they tricked the angels. And the DVD converstation was very intelligently done as well.

That's 4 in a row, to me, that have just been outstanding episodes(yes, I liked 42). Now what in the world am I going to do when they eventually air over here?

Heh, the answer's easy.....

Watch 'em again!

CRUITHNE3753

Tuesday, June 12, 2007 12:37 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Stegasaurus:
Was "Love & Monsters" the one where Moaning Myrtle gets turned into a floor tile?
-If so, hated it.

Yup, the impossibly cute Shirley Henderson was by far the only enjoyable thing in that episode.

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I absolutely loved this episode. "Blink" had me on the edge of my chair. I thought it was awesome (if a tiny bit obvious) how they tricked the angels. And the DVD converstation was very intelligently done as well.

Yes, splendidy creepifying, this one.

LESATHER

Tuesday, June 12, 2007 3:57 AM

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Yup, the impossibly cute Shirley Henderson was by far the only enjoyable thing in that episode.

Have to agree with you there. Hated the episode, but Shirley is just too cute for me not to watch it occasionally.

"Jayne is a girl's name" - River

IMNOTHERE

Tuesday, June 12, 2007 9:37 PM

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...what about Steven Moffat to replace him?

Nooooooo! Steven Moffat must spend the rest of his life chained to his wordprocessor writing episodes like "Blink", "The Girl In the Fireplace" and "The Empty Child". If he was executive producer he'd probably have to spend time doing all sorts of other admin rubbish. :-)

Although the episodes that RTD writes himself are not the strongest, he's obviously doing something right by creating an environment in which Moffat and co can do their stuff.

P.S. The BBC's Jekyl and Hyde re-make this coming saturday is written by Moffat, so it may be worth a gander.

(Looking at IMDB page...) Ah - he did "Press Gang". Figures.

LESATHER

Monday, June 18, 2007 12:20 AM

ANOTHER great episode this week! Derek Jacobi rocked!!! One of the best roles I have seen him do...too bad he isn't in more than just this one episode.

JACK'S BACK!!!!! ('nough said)

"Jayne is a girl's name" - River

REGINAROADIE

Monday, June 18, 2007 1:19 AM

Oh yes. I absolutely loved this ep, just to see the slow transformation of this kindly, elderly doctor whom you thought was slowly transforming into those new human things, but who really only now realized that he is another Time Lord, and not just any Time Lord for that matter, but The Master himself.

This is the first time I've seen him, and already I'm scared. This guy could give the Daleks and the Cybermen a run for their money. You really do get the idea that he's sort of the nightmare version of The Doctor.

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"And it starts with a sentence that might last a lifetime, or it all might just go down in flames. If I let you know me, then why would you want me? Each day I don't is a shame. Each day I don't is a great shame."

Loudon Wainwright III - "Strange Weirdos" off the "Knocked Up" soundtrack

COSMICFUGITIVE

Monday, June 18, 2007 3:30 PM

So many great one-liners in this episode. I was laughing my head off. This was action packed, dramatic and fast paced. Russel T Davis has still got it. I'm SO glad that Captain Jack is back!

John Barrowman and David Tennant are best mates in real life. It was great to see them act together on the screen. You could see that they were having so much fun making that episode.

The writers have given actor John Simm a PRETTY big role in the Who 'Verse. It's cool to see him on the show with a meaty role. (I'd still have loved to have seen a Who/Life On Mars crossover though.)

I was impressed with this episode. I actually yelled at the tv on Saturday night, and said: 'the Doctor is SO screwed!' Can't wait for the next episode!

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IMNOTHERE

Sunday, June 24, 2007 9:00 AM

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(I'd still have loved to have seen a Who/Life On Mars crossover though.)

Nah - it would have to be Torchwood - there are kiddies watching Doctor Who.

Having Gene Hunt on before the "watershed" would be as much fun as a

with a

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- can you IMAGINE what he'd have to say about Cap'n Jack?

LWAVES

Sunday, June 24, 2007 4:24 PM

Major spoilers if you haven't seen The Sound Of Drums.

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"What this country needs...right now...is a doctor."

Love that line from the advert/episode.

Well I thought it was another excellent episode. John Simm is great as The Master, and I like that he has a similar energy and eccentricity that The Doctor has. It's a major change from the straight forward evil of the previous Masters. The idea of a wife was a bit odd at first but when you find out that it was a companion of his it makes more sense, and she's completely on his side.

The Master seemed genuinely surprised when he found out that Gallifrey was no more, although I wasn't as convinced when he was told there were no more Time Lords but him and The Doctor.

This led to a (weak) theory that maybe the Toclafane (or however you spell it) were the Time Lords. If The Master was ressurected by them to fight in the Time War maybe he betrayed them and somehow stored the souls/energy of the Time Lords in these things and sent them away. Then ran away himself, as stated, till he could come back and rule over everything.
The Doctor did say the Toclafane were a Gallifreyan legend, maybe the link to that place is stronger that just a name.

I don't actually think I'm right in this theory, I just like the idea. Put The Doctor in a place where his people are being used for evil.

Looking forward to the last one.

"If I hear voices and someone is really there, does that mean I'm going REALLY crazy?"

WHOOPS

Sunday, June 24, 2007 4:59 PM

It was a great episode cant believe the finale is next week i want more episodes!! It was soooo good though cant wait for next week

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"Love. You can do all the math in the 'Verse, but you take a boat in the air you
don't love, she'll shake you off sure as a turnin' of worlds. Love keeps her in
the air when she oughtta fall down. Tells you she's hurtin' 'fore she keens.
Makes her a home." Mal

LESATHER

Monday, June 25, 2007 4:47 AM

LOVED this episode! Good reaction by the Doctor when he found out Jack was now working for Torchwood!!! After what happened at Canary Warf I don't blame the Doctor for being just a bit paranoid about the organization.

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It was great to see Gallifrey!!!

Also, I loved the lines-

Martha: "I thought you were going to tell me he was your long-lost brother, or something."

The Doctor: "Naw, you've been watching too much television."

"Jayne is a girl's name" - River

DEEPGIRL187

Thursday, June 28, 2007 2:46 PM

I know this thread has quite a few spoilers, so I'll just pretend I don't see them.

I just started watching the series recently, and today I saw "Dalek". And let me tell you, my world was blown. Here we have what amounts to a floating tin can looks-wise, and somehow they manage to make it into a multi-faceted and interesting character. And Christopher Eccleston? The man can do no wrong. If I wasn't a drooling fan before, I am now.

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"Right! Because teenage pranks are fun when you're about to die!"

REGINAROADIE

Thursday, June 28, 2007 3:30 PM

I know. "Dalek" is one of my favorite episodes of the first season, next to "Father's Day". It's definitely one that makes you sit up from the couch and hinge on every word. I had only seen one ep of the classic WHO ("Pyramids of Mars"), so I had never seen a Dalek. I knew of them, but not really had the experience. But that reveal of the Dalek in the vault was just pitch perfect. Up until then, you've only seen The Doctor as passive and unphased by anything. But when you see him go from terrified to sadistic as he sees this "space dustbin" chained up. You know that this is a real threat. And that voice. It's sounds like something that only has a vague idea on what English sounds like through a cigarette addled voice box.

Favorite line was "THEN HEAR ME TALK NOW!!! EXTERMINATE, EXTERMINATE, EXTERMINAAATTEEE!!!!!"

After that ep, I know for certain that the Daleks are the best evil alien race ever in sci-fi. Forget the Borg, the xenomorphs from ALIEN, the Predators or the Cylons, The Daleks reign supreme. They can't be reasoned with. They're genocide made corporeal.

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"And it starts with a sentence that might last a lifetime, or it all might just go down in flames. If I let you know me, then why would you want me? Each day I don't is a shame. Each day I don't is a great shame."

Loudon Wainwright III - "Strange Weirdos" off the "Knocked Up" soundtrack

DEEPGIRL187

Thursday, June 28, 2007 4:16 PM

The best part was watching how the Doctor and the Dalek played off one another. As one became more human (for lack of a better term), the other became more monstrous. Definitely will have to watch for that temper in the future.

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"Right! Because teenage pranks are fun when you're about to die!"

LESATHER

Sunday, July 1, 2007 9:54 AM

Reactions to the season finale?

Personally I was a bit mixed. I thought the last 25 minutes was excellent, but it came after (IMO) the most over-blown mess since the revival of the series three years ago. The episode really did not start working for me until the Doctor and the Master were able to have a true face-off.

"Jayne is a girl's name" - River

DEEPGIRL187

Sunday, July 1, 2007 1:28 PM

What are everyone's impressions on David Tennant? I've really enjoyed Christopher Eccleston's performance so far, so I'm starting to think that I might have trouble adjusting to a new Doctor. And John Barrowman? Coolness.

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"Right! Because teenage pranks are fun when you're about to die!"

LWAVES

Sunday, July 1, 2007 2:47 PM

For DeepGirl187:
I don't think you'll have a problem with David Tennant. Christopher Eccleston did a fantastic job of bringing the Doctor back. But personally I think David does a slightly better job. He looks like he is really enjoying playing the part and this comes through as the Doctor. He's got more of the eccentricity about him, more craziness, and the scenes were you need to feel sad or sorry for him are simply stunning

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Yeah, I liked the episode but I was expecting a bit more. John Simm is great as The Master and I am so glad they brought the character back. He was always my favourite non-pepperpot villain.
Had no problem with the Doctor being old but that Gollum type thing was a bit far.

I've noticed that this incarnation of the Doctor likes to use the power of speech.
He brought down Harriet with six words (brilliant), he forgave The Master and Martha told the story of the Doctor so that they could all use his name as a psychic connection.

And the actual ending was suitably WTF??
I somehow think it will be a space-going version of that ship, not the actual one. And how the hell did it break through the Tardis?

I'm not convinced that Freema is out either. Saw an interview that led me to believe that she was leaving (she spoke about 'they' rather than 'she'). But I also read that she had stated that she wasn't leaving. So I think it's just a plot twist. Make you think she has gone (so the Doctor is really alone again) and then bring her back in the Xmas special or maybe even the fourth season.
Remember that she did give him the phone.

And for UK viewers did anyone watch The Weakest Link before it? Very, very funny. David, John and Noel were just hilarious and you could tell the audience wanted David to win. Their reaction when he was voted off was great.

"If I hear voices and someone is really there, does that mean I'm going REALLY crazy?"

WHOOPS

Sunday, July 1, 2007 2:53 PM

Not as good as i thought it was going to be think they could have made it better. But it was still good. cant wait for the xmas special.

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"Love. You can do all the math in the 'Verse, but you take a boat in the air you
don't love, she'll shake you off sure as a turnin' of worlds. Love keeps her in
the air when she oughtta fall down. Tells you she's hurtin' 'fore she keens.
Makes her a home." Mal

CRUITHNE3753

Sunday, July 1, 2007 3:35 PM

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Try using the command tags described on the left of the screen to actually hide the spoilers like this:-

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Except use square brackets instead of curlies.

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Yeah the Gollum thing was cheesy... bit of an "us too" thing for The Mill... and that bit with the Master's ring in the pyre was ripped straight from Flash Gordon!

LESATHER

Sunday, July 1, 2007 4:29 PM

Deepgirl - you will have no problem adjusting to David Tennant. Many people had that same fear and after the first few episodes of the second season (particularly by "School Reunion" & "Girl in the Fireplace") David is so firmly established in the role you'll be saying 'Christopher Who?' (no pun intended)

"Jayne is a girl's name" - River

STEGASAURUS

Sunday, July 1, 2007 5:13 PM

Also of note to Deepgirl (in case you didn't already know) is that there were several other Doctors before CE. I personally feel that it is important to go back and see some of the earlier episodes (all if you can) so that you can get a richer and more appreciative understanding of The Doctor and not just the actor who plays him.

I'm not saying you don't appreciate him, just that there is soooo much more than what one actor brings to the table. Plus with (what 40 years?) of back story, you just can't go wrong. Just be willing to look past the dated SFX, and you should enjoy them.

HOBBLEIT

Sunday, July 1, 2007 6:38 PM

I liked last night's episode. Especially how the doctor defeated the Master.

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and the Master dying to "win" against the Doctor and the fact that Jack was known as the Face of Boe. That one got me.

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COSMICFUGITIVE

Sunday, July 1, 2007 6:59 PM

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I'm not sure how to react to the season finale. It's not that it was all bad, but there were a few elements that felt very odd.

John Simm was great on Life On Mars, but I felt that the Master's character was far too wacky and less dangerous. (I could appreciate the unhinged personality to a degree, but he was no 'Joker' so to speak. Or maybe it was that the character was blatantly trying to be too much like the Joker, and failing badly. There wasn't enough edge or real danger.)

I liked the fact that the Toclafane were the humans of the future. That was a chilling twist.

I wasn't too keen on the 'Gollum Doctor' though. It seemed like Russel T Davis had thought 'let's throw this in for effect', rather than write something that really serviced the plot.

On the plus side, I was stunned when they revealed that Captain Jack is/was the Face of Bo. That was a really cool bombshell.

Captain Jack had a lot of cool one liners in the last couple of episodes, and they were present in this one too. They always bring a smile to my face.

The Doctor's exclamation at the end of the episode was kinda flat. I hope they stop repeating it every year lol.

Concerning the Titantic, I recall Christopher Eccleston (as the Doctor) mentioning that he sailed on the Titanic once. I think it was in the first episode of the first series. Does that mess up the continuity?

Overall, I felt that it was a mixed bag of good and bad points. I might need to rewatch the last couple of episodes to fully apprecite it.

I'm actually intrigued about the Christmas special though..
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HOBBLEIT

Sunday, July 1, 2007 7:08 PM

I don't think there was enough Jack in the finale.

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IMNOTHERE

Sunday, July 1, 2007 7:49 PM

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Originally posted by lesather:
Reactions to the season finale?

The ending was a tad messianic, maybe

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I liked the way they (ab)used the horribly cliche'd "quest for the five segments of the maguffin" plot device that (especially if you'd watched the "infinite quest" animated adventure shown earlier).

Looks like we'll be getting a new (at least part-time) assistant - I vote for Sally Sparrow!

LESATHER

Monday, July 2, 2007 5:56 AM

Just a few more thoughts...

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Sally Sparrow would have my vote too.
But Martha will be back, even if it is as a semi-regular

But whoever they bring in as a new regular companion...please, no more "family" dramas.
I liked it when they dealt with Rose 'disappearing' for a year and her friends & family having to deal with that. It was something never brought up in the original series and I am glad they did it because it made sense and was important to show that aspect.
Martha's family got to be really annoying. All the bickering that was going on, her sister constantly trying to get respect from the other family members for these great jobs she was getting, her mother just being really stupid and not trusting in her own daughter's choices. The only one I didn't dislike was her brother and that was probably because he wasn't in many of the stories the others were.

"Jayne is a girl's name" - River

LESATHER

Wednesday, July 4, 2007 5:09 AM

Interesting news release from the BBC...

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According to the BBC, Catherine Tate will be back as 'Donna' and becoming the Doctor's new companion during the fourth series. 'Martha Jones' will be back, but not until mid-way through the season (she will be appearing in three episodes of Torchwood before her return to Doctor Who).

"Jayne is a girl's name" - River

WHOOPS

Wednesday, July 4, 2007 4:04 PM

Iv heard the same lesather i cant stand Catherine Tate i so hope its just a rumour. i dont think she can act at all and she sounds so annoyin to me.

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"Love. You can do all the math in the 'Verse, but you take a boat in the air you
don't love, she'll shake you off sure as a turnin' of worlds. Love keeps her in
the air when she oughtta fall down. Tells you she's hurtin' 'fore she keens.
Makes her a home." Mal

LWAVES

Wednesday, July 4, 2007 8:47 PM

I hope those rumours are false as well. She was okay for one episode, but no more.

My vote also goes to Carey Mulligan/Sally Sparrow. I think that the actress and the character showed enough potential in one episode to be a good long term companion.

"If I hear voices and someone is really there, does that mean I'm going REALLY crazy?"

IMNOTHERE

Wednesday, July 4, 2007 10:28 PM

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Originally posted by lwaves:
I hope those rumours are false as well. She was okay for one episode, but no more.

Nope - its been officially announced by the BBC.

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My vote also goes to Carey Mulligan/Sally Sparrow.

I think that would have been the popular choice... This sounds like a decision by the Men In Suits rather than the creative team.

However, before passing judgement, remember that Carey Mulligan got to be the main protagonist in one of the best episodes so far, with a very clever plot, while Catherine Tate was assistant in a so-so camp "monster-of-the-week tries to destroy Earth while chewing the scenery" pantomime. That's gonna skew your judgement.

LESATHER

Friday, July 6, 2007 6:57 AM

I agree with IMNOTHERE, the character written for "The Runaway Bride" was not the best, in a story that was not the greatest either (except for the part where the TARDIS was flying down the motorway...that was cool). By the very end of the episode 'Donna' had changed quite a bit and if her mind had actually been opened to new possibilities in her life, then hopefully the character will not be so shrill when she comes back.

I also like the fact there will NOT be the 'romantic interest' thing going on. That was starting to get really annoying the past couple seasons.

"Jayne is a girl's name" - River

DEL

Saturday, July 14, 2007 9:55 PM

Yeah but am I bovvered?

Sorry couldn't resist that one!!

REAVERINA1985RIVIERA

Thursday, July 19, 2007 9:43 AM

I've only seen the first 4 episodes, I have to say I like Martha Jones as The Doctor's companian, I always felt Rose was a bit airheaded. Plus Martha is alot more attractive (i.e. smokin' hot!). For a while there, I was worried that the bride was the new companion for the rest of the season, couldn't stand her at all.

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How many Jaynes does it take to change a light bulb?

Two. One to try to put it in and another to find a bigger hammer.

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