Fox has canceled DRIVE

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SISTER

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 9:10 PM (P)

...today...

PENGUIN

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 9:15 PM (P)

From Variety...

Fox has impounded "Drive," steering the show off the network highway after four episodes.
Despite decent reviews, "Drive" quickly stalled, averaging just a 2.3 rating and 6 share among adults 18-49, and 5.6 million viewers overall.

Monday night's "Drive" didn't help matters, coming in fifth place for the hour (1.5/5) and driving "24" to record lows, dropping Fox to fourth for the night.

Having shoved a Denver boot on "Drive," Fox has now gassed up "House" repeats in the Monday 8 p.m. slot.

Net is still mulling whether to burn off the last two remaining segs of "Drive" on air, or stream the final segs online.

Fox revved up six segs of "Drive," which revolved around a group of people forced to take part in an illegal cross-country race. Nathan Fillion stars, along with Melanie Lynskey, Dylan Baker, Emma Stone, Kevin Alejandro, J.D. Pardo, Taryn Manning, Rochelle Aytes, Michael Hyatt, Mircea Monroe, Riley Smith, Kristin Lehman and Charles Martin Smith.

Tim Minear and Ben Queen created and exec produce "Drive," which comes from 20th Century Fox TV. Greg Yaitanes also exec produced.

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DEEPGIRL187

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 9:19 PM (P)

So what now? Do we start the writing and protesting campaigns, or do we just mope in a corner somewhere? I hate to sound pessimistic, but it's at the point where there's almost no point in watching new shows. How many good TV shows have to get cancelled before people stop watching network TV completely? Or is the general public so unassertive that it will just continue like this for eternity?

*sigh*

Sorry fo the rant...

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NVGHOSTRIDER

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 9:21 PM (P)

You've got to be Mr Fing joking! I never even got to see what did air.

PENGUIN

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 9:22 PM (P)

I understand your frustration... People want mindless entertainment and fluff...like American Idol and Pussycat Dolls...

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ZEROKIRYU

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 9:23 PM (P)

f*x!!!!!!!!

Poor Nathan and Tim can't seem to catch a break.

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STORYMARK

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 9:23 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by nvghostrider:
You've got to be Mr Fing joking! I never even got to see what did air.

Which would be part of the reason it got axed.

(Not blaming you persoanlly, but a show won't last when folks don't watch it)

I know it's real popular to blame Fox for everything around here, but when a new show is actually bringing down the ratings of one of their best-rated shows, it's a good business dicision to axe it.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

LEGOLAS813

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 9:26 PM (P)

VERY sad news, but not suprising that it happened.

On an unrelated note, I thought this article from USA Today was interesting. Discusses theories on why TV ratings are so low recently.

http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2007-04-24-TV-ratings_N.h
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JWHEDONADDICT

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 9:27 PM (P)

Just heard this myself.

Typical of FOX. Still can't grasp the idea of letting a show hang around awhile to see if an audience will build before yanking it.

Poor Tim and Nathan. Damn.

"Our fate has to be our own, or we're nothing."--Angel
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FLYVOTE

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 9:32 PM (P)

Mark my words: Fox will now start a new reality program "Racing with the Stars". Does Gary Coleman drive?

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Wednesday, April 25, 2007 9:32 PM (P)

I am so about this..I was really falling in love with the show..it figures.

I was hoping we'd at least get a whole season before they cancelled it..

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ZEROKIRYU

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 9:39 PM (P)

But we now have proof that f*x hates us.

So......... Now what do we do?

Should we assemble the browncoat army and march on f*x?

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ZEEK

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 9:50 PM (P)

Why Tim and Nathan even work with Fox anymore is beyond me. Though I was never a Drive fan. I say we just let this one go quietly into the night.

GOMITHROUS

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 9:51 PM (P)

Wow... the shows we like seem to be getting shorter and shorter running times 'cause of gorram F*X don't they?

Is there any hope of it getting picked up by another network. If not I'm ready to go full-scale riot on F*X! Somebody pretty high up there must either hate us or just be the single stupidest person on the planet!

I'm going to go hit something now...

"Rational thought, it's an aquired taste"

DAYVE

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 9:55 PM (P)

.....so not surprised.....

I would like to take this opportunity to ask each and every one of you to join me in boycotting FOX -

i am 1 year, 5 months & 25 days FOX free.... if i can do it, so can you.

CHRISISALL

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 9:58 PM (P)

That's the last frakkin straw. The first show I tune in on broadcast TV since Dark Angel, and now it's axed. Broadcast TV is dead to me.

Nathan, I'll see ya in the movies, pal.

Grrr Arggg Chrisisall

DESKTOPHIPPIE

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 10:01 PM (P)

I honestly thought this was a joke. They actually cancelled it?

Poor Tim!

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JWHEDONADDICT

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 10:08 PM (P)

Sorry, but as long as I can afford to have cable, I will be supporting the BDH's (I include the Buffy/Angel casts/producers/writers in this, too) no matter what network they find work on. They are more important to me than the network.

That said, I will boycott FOX except when it comes to them. I may not like every show they do (except Joss's--which I'm guaranteed to love), but I'll give them all a shot.

"Our fate has to be our own, or we're nothing."--Angel
"In Joss We Trust."

STOWEAWAY

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 10:09 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Dayve:

I would like to take this opportunity to ask each and every one of you to join me in boycotting FOX -

I was already NOT watching F*x but not because of a boycott. They just show the crappiest programs ever invented.
My husband still watches Bones, because he loves Boreanaz. But as a whole, F*x doesn't get our viewership.
This was the first time I've watched their network in a very long time. Not anymore. Again, not because of a boycott but because there's nothing showing worth watching.

STORYMARK

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 10:29 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by zerokiryu:
But we now have proof that f*x hates us.

So......... Now what do we do?

Should we assemble the browncoat army and march on f*x?

All it proves is that they hate really low-rated shows.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

DERANGEDMILK

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 10:36 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by zerokiryu:
But we now have proof that f*x hates us.

So......... Now what do we do?

Should we assemble the browncoat army and march on f*x?

I'm in, but I don't know how much good it'll do. But whats with all the censorship? C'mon folks are we afraid six year olds are reading this thread....FOX FUCKING BLOWS!!!!!

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ZEEK

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 10:39 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Storymark:
All it proves is that they hate really low-rated shows.

Especially low-rated shows that are driving (hehe) down ratings for their high rated shows.

I don't know what they were thinking there. Shouldn't the new show come after the high rated show and hope the audience stick around to check it out?

GHOULFISH

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 10:47 PM (P)

F*X

ZEROKIRYU

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 10:48 PM (P)

But how can they justify canceling a new show before giving it a chance to thrive.

And if it was driving (hehe) down ratings for the other show, they could have just moved it to a different night, they didn't even try that!!

And I don't see how Drive was pulling down the ratings for that other show, if you like that show you're not gonna stop watching it because of something that comes on before it.

It's all just one big conspiracy to prove that F*X HATES US!!!!

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STORYMARK

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 10:53 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by zerokiryu:
But how can they justify canceling a new show before giving it a chance to thrive.

And if it was driving (hehe) down ratings for the other show, they could have just moved it to a different night, they didn't even try that!!

And I don't see how Drive was pulling down the ratings for that other show, if you like that show you're not gonna stop watching it because of something that comes on before it.

It's all just one big conspiracy to prove that F*X HATES US!!!!

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Well, for one, it's really hard (and unlikely) for new viewers to get into a serialized show like Drive. Jumping in several episodes in without the backstory makes the show hard to understand.

And the reason it brough 24's ratings down are because people turned the channel durring Drive, and basically forgot to turn back for 24. It's why networks are so big on lead-in numbers, and the viewers retained.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

BLAZESOLO

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 10:59 PM (P)

Anybody know where I can find pics of Gorram Ruttin F*X execs, I'm gonna use'em for target practice. This Is My OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT OF BOYCOTT OF F*X!!!!!!!!! MAY THEY ALL ROT IN HELL!!!!!!!

I wear a blaster under my Browncoat

ZEROKIRYU

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 11:03 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by BlazeSolo:
MAY THEY ALL ROT IN HELL!!!!!!!

Not just any hell, the SPECIALhell!!!!!!

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SERGEANTX

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 11:05 PM (P)

Joss and Tim really need to find a different outlet for their brand of storytelling. Broadcast television (at least as it currently exists) really isn't well suited to what they have to offer. It's not really well suited to anything worth a shit, but that's another discussion.

SergeantX

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SERGEANTX

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 11:06 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
That's the last frakkin straw. The first show I tune in on broadcast TV since Dark Angel, and now it's axed. Broadcast TV is dead to me.

Nathan, I'll see ya in the movies, pal.

Grrr Arggg Chrisisall

I knew you'd come around eventually. Except it doesn't exactly make me happy.

SergeantX

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STORYMARK

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 11:09 PM (P)

There are several good shows on TV. Buncha drama-queens... sheesh

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

LEGOLAS813

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 11:12 PM (P)

I don't understand why everyone blames Fox. Cancellations are not the fault of the networks. Fox promoted this show to death! If people don't watch the show, there is no way it can stay on the air. The Big 4 networks would be out of their mind to keep a show with only 4-6 million viewers (and dropping each episode).

Networks air what the majority of the American TV audience wants to see. Can you blame them?

And boycotting a network is just plain stupid. Your efforts will barely be seen as a blip on the radar. Besides, you are depriving future good shows of their own deserved ratings, and promoting further cancellations!

If you want a show to succeed, tell people about it. Spread the word. If it gets cancelled, know that it was the fault of the American audience, not Fox or any other network.

TELCOD

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 11:15 PM (P)

24's ratings are down because the show has started to suck. I've watched and loved it every season, but it has run out of gas (pun) this time around. Best news in this regard is they have Sutherland on contract for 3 more seasons and this show will tank next year. Lack of imagination is hallmark of FOX. I say we list the sponsors for Firefly, 24, Drive and House and we boycott them all. Let's run FOX out of town like Imus was run out of town.

FOLLOWMAL

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 11:24 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Sister:
...today...

is a very sad day.

Quote:
Originally posted by Deepgirl187:
Sorry fo the rant...

Not at all, DG...we're all hurting, ranting helps.

Quote:
Originally posted by Penguin:
People want mindless entertainment and fluff...like American Idol and Pussycat Dolls...

And therein lies the most important problem of all. The majority of Americans have been watching Dancing with the Stars and Deal or No Deal. They've not been watching Drive. We love it, we love stories, most of the buying public out there doesn't. Or that would be what was popular. Until the public at large quits watching that mindless drivel, it'll be tops.

Quote:
Originally posted by JWhedonAddict:
Poor Tim and Nathan. Damn.

Exactly JWA.
Poor all the crew who were looking to make their living whilst doing this show. This is a sad day for them too.

Quote:
Originally posted by SergeantX:
Joss and Tim really need to find a different outlet for their brand of storytelling.

Yes, yes they do!
I'm hoping with all the direct to DVD, made for the internet stuff that's happening that Joss and Tim will venture into that realm. I'm buyin'! Whatever they do!

For more info about Nathan's new show, check out www.drivefans.com

SERGEANTX

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 11:27 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Legolas813:
...If it gets cancelled, know that it was the fault of the American audience, not Fox or any other network.

Makes sense, but I think you can blame Fox as well, though no more than any of the other networks. The science of marketing art is abysmal and really has only figured out how to pander to titillation and stupidity. The networks are also shortsighted and fail to foster enough judgment in their ranks to know which shows merit some patience and which don't.

What I don't get is why folks keep falling for it.

SergeantX

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FOLLOWMAL

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 11:30 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Legolas813:
I don't understand why everyone blames Fox. Cancellations are not the fault of the networks. Fox promoted this show to death! If people don't watch the show, there is no way it can stay on the air. The Big 4 networks would be out of their mind to keep a show with only 4-6 million viewers (and dropping each episode).

Networks air what the majority of the American TV audience wants to see. Can you blame them?

And boycotting a network is just plain stupid. Your efforts will barely be seen as a blip on the radar. Besides, you are depriving future good shows of their own deserved ratings, and promoting further cancellations!

If you want a show to succeed, tell people about it. Spread the word. If it gets cancelled, know that it was the fault of the American audience, not Fox or any other network.

I agree. I know it's easy to say screw Fox and be angry with them, but to be more honest you should be angry with all the folks you know in ordinary walks of life who don't ever watch this stuff we love. They would rather watch crap reality shows.
That's what sells.

It's a fact. Crap is king right now. Until it's no longer popular, the good stuff will be few and far between. I'm going to watch the gems, no matter what network they're on. The rest of the time, my tv is off.

For more info about Nathan's new show, check out www.drivefans.com

OPTIMUS1998

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 11:33 PM (P)

ok, i GET canceling shows with low numbers, but after airing only 4 episodes?? 2 of which were back to back, and the 3rd was the next night???
i know that they did air 4 eps, but in the course of 2 WEEKS. this would essentially be tantamout to cancelling a show after 2 episodes( Wonderfalls, tim minear, FOX) Drive started on a sunday, then switched to a monday( i know during the premiere eps they said that it would continue the next night in it's normal time slot, but it's possible folks could have missed that.) people could have been tuning in on sunday night to see it not realizing it was a monday show.
you HAVE to give shows a chance to develop SOME following!

and movies are just as bad! if it doesn't break the bank on opening weekend, then it's done. movies can be gone from theaters before folks that wanted to see them are even aware they are IN theaters already!
i'm THIS close to telling hollywood where to stick it! (not that it would do any good)

-GRR, ARGH!!!

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CAPTAINCOUPI

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 11:34 PM (P)

Gorram Dog Humping Mother Rutters!

Basically that means I won't ever get to see the show. If it's cancelled after a few episodes in the US no one over here in the UK is going to buy and show those few episodes.

OK, where's my file sharing software. I don't care if it's illegal; if it the only way....

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LEGOLAS813

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 11:39 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by optimus1998:
you HAVE to give shows a chance to develop SOME following!

It's pretty rare that a serialized show gains significant ground in the ratings. If anything, they will keep going down. If a show starts off that low in the ratings and keeps losing a large amount of viewers each episode, there really is no point in giving the show anymore airtime.

Some could argue that you could move the show after American Idol or another successful lead-in, but this doesn't work as well with serialized shows. It's not the type of thing people are willing to jump into without seeing the previous episodes. This is the advantage to shows like CSI or reality shows.

I do understand your pain, though. Networks are swinging the axe of cancellation quicker and quicker these days.

LEGOLAS813

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 11:42 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by CaptainCoupi:
I don't care if it's illegal; if it the only way....

If you live outside the U.S., you can watch the episodes here: http://tv-links.co.uk/show.do/1/1699

Please forgive me if this is not allowed here.

SHAMELESS

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 11:49 PM (P)

I'm starting to hate tv in general.

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ZZETTA13

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 11:52 PM (P)

My question to the group,are any browncoats surprised?

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CHINDI

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 11:53 PM (P)

THE IDIOTS!! it was picking up steam.. and Waitress is going to garner a LOT if interest in Nathan.. the buzz is really good.. talk about premature ej...

what ejits!!

grrrrrrrrrrrrr I liked the show.. it moves fast and NF is so much fun to watch.. grrrrrrrrrr

as Chris said, Capn I will see you in the movies..

We should all go over to My space and leave kind words for cappy.. he might be bummed...

TV is sooo boring. All that reality stuff leaves me cold.

Chindi

KANEMAN

Wednesday, April 25, 2007 11:56 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Storymark:
There are several good shows on TV. Buncha drama-queens... sheesh

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

You are such a troll. Read all your posts in this thread

CLJOHNSTON108

Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:00 AM (P)

I'm still wondering why Firefly wasn't shown on cable or first-run syndication from the get-go!

Star Trek: TNG, Stargate SG-1 & Farscape would've been cancelled right away if they'd aired on Fox!

CAPTAINCOUPI

Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:01 AM (P)

Cheers Legolas813. That is a very shiny link!

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STORYMARK

Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:02 AM (P)

For those who insist that people are only watching reality TV, I would point out that of the top 20 shows (week of 4/11), only 5 are reality shows (and Idol and Dancing are counbted twice each, so it's only 3 shows).

12 of the top 20 are hour-long dramas.

People still like stories. It's just that this one didn't catch on.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

STINKINGROSE

Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:03 AM (P)

I was about to ask "what was that, two episodes?!", but then saw what happened explained.

I do not have cable TV because despite a few educational channels and cartoon networks there really isn't anything out there I would want to watch (except things which have been canceled now.)
This really blows for exposure for Nathan, Tim, et al. Hopefully everyone got paid for the work they did and nobody gets royally pooched.

Surprised?
Not really.

STORYMARK

Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:04 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by cljohnston108:
I'm still wondering why Firefly wasn't shown on cable or first-run syndication from the get-go!

Star Trek: TNG, Stargate SG-1 & Farscape would've been cancelled right away if they'd aired on Fox!

Well, as far as syndication goes, probably becuase the first-run syndication market dried up years ago. All there is now is re-runs of scifi channel shows.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

CLJOHNSTON108

Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:19 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Legolas813:
If you live outside the U.S., you can watch the episodes here: http://tv-links.co.uk/show.do/1/1699

Please forgive me if this is not allowed here.

I don't care if it's allowed or not... They've got Strange Luck on that site! OhMyGhod!!
Thought I'd never see that again!
Thank you sooooo much for the link!
You're an angel!

MISSTRESSAHARA

Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:25 AM (P)

Already? Wow, with all the hype fux had made for Drive I thought they'd give it at least a season, half tops. And blaming Drive for low ratings on 24 is a rather sorry excuse. I hear 24 has gotten less stellar recently, and well Heroes was on opposite. To say Drive was the reason for low 24 ratings and not having to go against a powerhouse like Heroes makes me think fux doesn't want to admit they're network is slowly bleeding to death. *sigh* Why do Tim and Nathan keep working for them? Contracts. I understand they have standing contracts to work for fux if a show is available and they're asked. Sucks I know.

I feel so sorry for Nate and Tim. Seems none of our BDH's can catch a break. Now I admit to being one of the few who didn't watch it, but damn cancelling so soon, it's just.... it's insanity.

Yes I agree Tim and Joss and company need to get away from the networks, they'll never be able to tell the intellegent stories they want, the only place I can see them working freely is cable. Dead Like Me, Weeds, even The Soprano's all aired on cable and got a heavy following. Maybe for some stories there wouldn't be the kind of budget they're used to, but at least they'd have their chance to write their witty dialogue and not have the threat of cancellation looming over their heads all the time.

This really does suck, and if it weren't for Heroes, and the upcoming season of Eureka, the only tv I'd be watching is cooking shows. Sorry to all the fans for this lousy news.

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Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:07 AM (P)

IhateFOXIhateFOX

FUCK U FOX

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Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:16 AM (P)

I am just fing speechless!

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DOCTROID

Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:27 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SergeantX:
Joss and Tim really need to find a different outlet for their brand of storytelling. Broadcast television (at least as it currently exists) really isn't well suited to what they have to offer.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=8&t=27858

We weren't watching "Drive" here because, well, in the midst of moving and all that -- our TV isn't even hooked up. And we haven't watched any TV to speak of in 3 1/2 years. (We've seen "Firefly" only on DVD.) And I don't know whether I would've liked it or not. So... I guess it's my fault.

Part of me is saying "Fox is run by idiots!" Part of me is saying "Well, yeah... a serialized show like that, if ratings are in the toilet four episodes in, they probably won't pick up much." Of course, maybe Fox could've scheduled it better.

It's sad, yeah. But I have a feeling DVDs and the Internet are the future for genre television. No idiot (or realistic) networks, no scheduling problems, no need to pander to the Nielsen families or the advertisers. Cross your fingers for the success of the B5 and SG1 DVDs and "Sanctuary", because they're blazing the trail I think we need to follow.

TINADOLL

Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:37 AM (P)

I don't get it- They pushed this show so hard. Whey couldn't they just change days or something????!

GAIDHEAL

Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:37 AM (P)

Probably one of the shortest 8-day/4-episode shows I've ever watched and had the carpet yanked out from under me on. Eight Days!!! How can they actually expect to build up any sort of audience in that short of a time?

REVDEADCORPSE

Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:50 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Legolas813:
Discusses theories on why TV ratings are so low recently.

http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2007-04-24-TV-ratings_N.h
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Er... because they are a bunch of clueless hacks that wouldn't know a good franchise opportunity if it was having sex with their left eardrum?

Just a guess...

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Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:09 AM (P)

Hey RevDeadCorpse - what's that animation in your siggy?

And agreed - 4 episodes, all right... but it was in the span of 8 days. You gotta give them more time than that. And I realize that a lot hinges on the premier, but in a world of reruns and Tivo, how likely is it that most people who will watch it are going to watch it at that exact hour?

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Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:46 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Legolas813:
Quote:
Originally posted by CaptainCoupi:
I don't care if it's illegal; if it the only way....

If you live outside the U.S., you can watch the episodes here: http://tv-links.co.uk/show.do/1/1699

Please forgive me if this is not allowed here.

but, but, but that only has episodes 1 through 4 and i FREAKING WHAT TO KNOW WHATS GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT.

Sorry, I channeled my inner pissed off child right then............whew that was embarrassing.

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Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:48 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Sister:
...today...

I saw that coming a mile off

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EYEBALLKID

Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:48 AM (P)

Seriously. I have no words. I feel like crap for Nathan and Tim (and Amy).

Anybody on Facebook, come and join my group of hate-mongering towards FOX for what they have done to so many good shows:

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Today is a day of sadness.

WHIMSICALNBRAINPAN

Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:15 AM (P)

Enough said...

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AINTWEJUST

Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:16 AM (P)

"Drive" didn't bring down 24's numbers. This week's episode of "24" ran opposite the return of "Heroes" after a two-month hiatus. All the 'Heroes" fans recorded "24" and watched "Heroes live.

And "Drive" died primarily because they put it up against "Deal or No Deal," one of NBC's most popular nighttime game shows. It's a frelling phenomenon ... and we expect "Drive" to survive against it?

I wouldn't have gotten so attached to the gorram show if I had realized early on they had put it in a doomed slot in the first place.

*sigh*

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GHOULFISH

Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:19 AM (P)

Nice Site - and yes i agree that was the straw (but it also could have been the one a little further to the right.

MONKSDAD

Thursday, April 26, 2007 4:13 AM (P)

You would think that they would make some room for a show like drive or at least give it a second chance on FX, but that is fox's logic... I mean what kind of ratings did the shield or any of the other shows on fx get? Whatever is all i have to say to this.

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PEULSAR5

Thursday, April 26, 2007 4:31 AM (P)

I wonder if and when Nathan will post anything on his Myspace blog. SURELY he knows how upset we are.

SERGEANTX

Thursday, April 26, 2007 4:40 AM (P)

Interesting story....

I just went to the video store to buy a copy of Bull Durham (would you believe I had to go to three separate stores to find a copy?). Anyway, while I was there I asked if they had Firefly. Both my copies are on loan, so I figured I could use another. They were sold out, but the clerk started telling me how good it was. When I told him I was a long time fan, he lit up and told me that he was really excited about Nathan Fillion's new show 'Drive'. He asked if I was going to watch it 'when it started up....'. When I told him that it had just been canceled and he was very disappointed. He said, "I didn't even know it had started."

This got me to thinking. I as I stated before, I don't think broadcast television is really the right place for Joss and Tim's stuff. And I think that is, in large part, because of the way our TV habits have changed. It's just not the regular, routine activity it once was. With computers, the internet, DVDs etc... people have - and expect - more control over their entertainment. They also have many more choices. We can't expect people to schedule time to watch a television show once a week. And that pretty much kills a series that is draws heavily on a continuing story arc.

That's why I'm so convinced that serial entertainment needs to find a different venue. One recurring fantasy I have is that Tim and Joss, or people of their ilk, can revive the old tradition of the matinée serial. Frankly, I'd start going to the movies again to see regular episodes of Firefly. I'd much rather do that than wade through TV commercials. And I could see it at times that were convenient for me. Something about the idea of moving the serial format back onto the big screen really appeals to me. Anybody else like the idea?

SergeantX

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ZEROKIRYU

Thursday, April 26, 2007 4:55 AM (P)

Just e-mailed f*x telling them how stupid they are.

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Thursday, April 26, 2007 5:00 AM (P)

sorry peeps, the lower ratings on 24 weren't because of Drive, they may have more to do with the fact that 24 just FOXing SUX this year..

9 days. 9 whole days before the axe.

Fox has brought the axe to us too many times. Take it to them.

Tim and Joss need to do direct to DVD, preordered box sets. I've loved everything they've done.

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TYRANTKILLER

Thursday, April 26, 2007 5:17 AM (P)

i haven't the gorram time to read up to what's happening in this thread right now so exuse me if this is off topic or poorly spelled but...
GODDAMN IT FOX WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU? YOU EVIL BLOOD SUCKING CORPORATE BASTARDS! I AM HEARBY NO LONGER WATCHING/SUPPORTING FOX IN ANY OF IT'S FORMS!!!(except joss and/or nathan's stuff on dvd)AND THIS IS MY OFFICAIL BOYCOTT NOTICE AND I STRONGLY URGE ALL OTHERS TO JOIN ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NO POWER IN THE VERSE CAN STOP US!!!

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EMPIREX

Thursday, April 26, 2007 5:19 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Tinadoll:
IhateFOXIhateFOX

FUCK U FOX

My sentiments exactly, Tina! I knew this was going to happen! Why, oh why did Nathan sign a talent deal with Fox?!? He and Tim should be working with a network that actually respects talent and doesn't cater toward the lowest common denominator (i.e. people with IQs of 70).

I'm sorry, but 24 doesn't interest me. Oh look. Jack Bauer's saving the country. Again. Oh look, House figured out what was killing that man/woman/child at the last minute. Again. He's so smart. And let's be honest. Bones and Booth are mediocre copies of Mulder and Scully.

OK, so I like Hugh Laurie and I like Bones. But that's my 2 cents.

SHUKES

Thursday, April 26, 2007 6:06 AM (P)

Give a show a chance for godsake, what is this obsession of axing a show so quickly?

i was really getting into it as well, curse you fox, and infact curse those who think its fun to watch some moron eat his own weight in worms, but ignore anything with acctual value. I want shows that are funny and smart. SOmething that makes me laugh and think, to wonder.

Doesn't seem seem fair those that like these shows get kicked in the sprouts just because it was the most popular show out there, i am acctually sick of it.

Shukes

NAFLM

Thursday, April 26, 2007 6:36 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SergeantX:
That's why I'm so convinced that serial entertainment needs to find a different venue. One recurring fantasy I have is that Tim and Joss, or people of their ilk, can revive the old tradition of the matinée serial. Frankly, I'd start going to the movies again to see regular episodes of Firefly. I'd much rather do that than wade through TV commercials. And I could see it at times that were convenient for me. Something about the idea of moving the serial format back onto the big screen really appeals to me. Anybody else like the idea?

Don't know about serials at the theatre but I'd love to see a subscription-based service where I can pick the shows that I want to see. Money goes back to the producers directly instead of the network, you don't have to worry about advertising (or at least not as much) or scheduling, support for the show is obvious, and your potential market is the world. Why the hell should I be limited to what my local stations choose to broadcast, or what the cable company chooses to package together, or even when they decide to show something? Season 3 of Doctor Who is airing right now, why shouldn't I be able to watch if now, especially if I'm willing to pay for it? Yeesh!

INDYFIREFLY

Thursday, April 26, 2007 6:37 AM (P)

Hi...I am new here love all of Joss' works, but now on to Drive, and 24's low ratings. Drive probably had very little to do with that, more people were interested in watching another good show in Heroes. Which is on at the same time as 24.

DARKFLY

Thursday, April 26, 2007 7:03 AM (P)

those f*CKERS F*X there experiencing some of their worst ratings in their history even on their popular TV show so they cancel Drive and show bloody repeats of House.That's real clever make a TV show people start to like it then they cancel it & show repeats of some TV show which will probably get lower ratings than Drive.

It wasn't Drive's fault its F*X's for starting it in April & in F*X worst ratings drought

Oh and this is the first time I really really like something I'm watching & then they cancel it, since Firefly I only watched last year not when it actually fist showed.

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Thursday, April 26, 2007 7:18 AM (P)

If we start protesting I think we should all use this catchline...

They killed Drive, those Bastards

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Thursday, April 26, 2007 11:24 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SergeantX:
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Frankly, I'd start going to the movies again to see regular episodes of Firefly. I'd much rather do that than wade through TV commercials. And I could see it at times that were convenient for me. Something about the idea of moving the serial format back onto the big screen really appeals to me. Anybody else like the idea?

I like it a lot.

Why is the rum always gone?

GUYWHOWANTSAFIREFLYOFHISOWN

Thursday, April 26, 2007 11:26 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by zerokiryu:
Just e-mailed f*x telling them how stupid they are.

Got the address?

Why is the rum always gone?

GUYWHOWANTSAFIREFLYOFHISOWN

Thursday, April 26, 2007 11:27 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by tyrantkiller:
GODDAMN IT FOX WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU? YOU EVIL BLOOD SUCKING CORPORATE BASTARDS! I AM HEARBY NO LONGER WATCHING/SUPPORTING FOX IN ANY OF IT'S FORMS!!!(except joss and/or nathan's stuff on dvd)AND THIS IS MY OFFICAIL BOYCOTT NOTICE AND I STRONGLY URGE ALL OTHERS TO JOIN ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NO POWER IN THE VERSE CAN STOP US!!!

Ditto!

Why is the rum always gone?

BROWNCOAT1

Thursday, April 26, 2007 11:42 AM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SergeantX:
Joss and Tim really need to find a different outlet for their brand of storytelling. Broadcast television (at least as it currently exists) really isn't well suited to what they have to offer. It's not really well suited to anything worth a shit, but that's another discussion.

I completely agree SergeantX and to that end I give you:

http://www.sanctuaryforall.com/

Certainly many of you have heard of this concept. Sanctuary is a web-based science fiction series that will star Amanda Tappan of Stargate SG1 fame. No networks, no execs, no Nielson boxes to pull the plug. I am thinking this would be a good fit for Firefly or even Drive.

Of course there is also direct to dvd movies to continue the story as Stargate SG1 and Babylon 5 are both doing.

As much as I would like to say that I did not see this coming, I just felt it. Drive was cool, I tuned in and watched and I liked it. I should have know the second I liked it Fox would pull the plug. Truth is the show was simply not pulling in viewers. Unfortunately Fox is a network that panders to reality shows and the like. They do not do character driven shows and that is what Tim creates. People who watch tv today are more interested in instant gratification, T&A or flashy tv with little substance. Unfortunately Drive was shaping up to be far more.

I feel for Tim, Nathan, and the rest of the cast. I wish them the best and hope they find work quickly.

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CALHOUN

Thursday, April 26, 2007 11:45 AM (P)

meh.. it wasn't that good a show anyway. The only thing it had going for it was Nathan and the black beast.

ADAMWANKENOBI

Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:08 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by FlyVote:
Mark my words: Fox will now start a new reality program "Racing with the Stars". Does Gary Coleman drive?

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Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:40 PM (P)

I missed the premier of Drive. Realized it first thing Monday morning (when I logged on here and saw folks chatting about it, and watched it online while at work (shhhhh, don't tell). Watched every episode since (all both of them (that's usually a joke line)), and was really getting into it.

It doesn't matter how heavily promoted a show is if it's on a network that I'm not watching. I wanted to see Nathan, I found out (here) when & where to watch him.

24's numbers fell? Huh. Maybe folks are tired of watching 'the good guy' torture people and really wanted to see folks "Save the Cheerleader. Save the World." I didn't forget to watch 24; I changed the channel as soon as Drive was over.

Want folks to tune in to your show? Make a good one. I get to tell my TV "Tune to this channel at this time, then over here, then this one, etc."
I don't often miss shows I WANT to see.

I'll be substituting fox'd for f**ked from now on.
Getting peoples hopes up like that...
I just... and then they... but... ARGH!

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Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:34 PM (P)

Ok browncoats, here in multiple choice form are the real reasons DRIVE was dropped by F*><

Reason:
A) All of the contestants stopped at Wafflehouse and never made it to the rally point at which time the mysterious middle man disqualified everyone, then went into the nearest public bathroom and committed suicide by gutting himself (traditional death by blade of ninjas)
B) After the bank job the “Tully Gang”, (as they would have come to be known in a later eps) found that they had stolen the wrong safe deposit box. The one in their possession contained 217 million $$$ so the entire foursome said “Screw this. We don’t need no stinkin race.”
C) The death of the actress in the terrible car wreck at the end had ppl so turned off and disgusted that they became physically ill and turned off their tv sets. Resulting in lower network numbers.
D) Add your own reason…..

Z

COZEN

Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:40 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by zzetta13:
Reason:
A) All of the contestants stopped at Wafflehouse and never made it to the rally point at which time the mysterious middle man disqualified everyone....

Disclaimer: I don't spend much time watching television, so I'm poorly informed in regards to how many fine quality shows are produced amongst all of the networks and are quickly cancelled.

What I don't grok is why Whedon, Minear, et. al., don't seem to be able to sell their entertainment concepts to television broadcasters other that Fox. Yeah, I know that Buffy extended it's run on WB, but it didn't start there.

I'm essentially down to drawing a couple of conclusions. First is that Fox has two out of synch divisions, such that their development side has an good knack for finding entertaining and, dare I say it, intelligent shows, but the marketing side panics quickly on the cash numbers and squashes such shows at the first hint of low ratings. Second is the conspiracy theory angle, which runs to something like: "Here's a quality entertainment, but the television viewing audience is, in general, not formatted to appreciate it (and now we're getting into RWED territory

), and we're just proving that as fact by putting the shows out there and having them fail"; such that Fox is the network willing to fund such experiments.

Really, I've no idea if either concept has anything to do with truth. Still, what I'm getting at is the, um, stupidification of America, though I'm not gonna suggest it's a deliberate trend or happenstance.

Impaledonthefencecoz

BLUEMOONSTUFF

Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:46 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by SergeantX:
Originally posted by Legolas813:
The science of marketing art is abysmal and really has only figured out how to pander to titillation and stupidity.

I agree 100%. It's a fast food nation we live in and the majority of TV watchers want instant gratification. Minear's shows require a bit of commitment to fully grasp the depth of the characters and premise of the show as a whole. But, once you're in....... he's one of the best out there.

Cable TV is where the quality programing is today. Let the drones have the free stuff. I'll gladly pay a monthly fee for quality programing.

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TINADOLL

Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:49 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by EmpireX:
Quote:
Originally posted by Tinadoll:
IhateFOXIhateFOX

FUCK U FOX

My sentiments exactly, Tina! I knew this was going to happen! Why, oh why did Nathan sign a talent deal with Fox?!? He and Tim should be working with a network that actually respects talent and doesn't cater toward the lowest common denominator (i.e. people with IQs of 70).

I'm sorry, but 24 doesn't interest me. Oh look. Jack Bauer's saving the country. Again. Oh look, House figured out what was killing that man/woman/child at the last minute. Again. He's so smart. And let's be honest. Bones and Booth are mediocre copies of Mulder and Scully.

OK, so I like Hugh Laurie and I like Bones. But that's my 2 cents.

HAHA My sentiments as well. I never liked Prison *supposed to last a season* break either.

But i will watch Bones and House-Just cuz i love Hugh Laurie (Jeeves and wooster-huzzah!) and Bones( Yea mediocre Mulder and Scully- I miss them :()

But why would they hype a show and just kill it. I don't get it! I was reading that 24's ratings started to slip-perhaps they needed a scapegoat

KINETIC

Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:33 PM (P)

(sigh) I'm tired of liking things. Intelligent storytelling has no place on network TV. I wonder if the series can find a home somewhere else? USA, FX, SCIFI, perhaps HBO. It would be interesting to see what they could do without the FCC restrictions. Considering the show was given a total of 8 days to generate an audience. Why not give it a chance to redeem itself against weaker competition this summer? and find people who might be turned from their normal monday night drudgery.

Have Nathan or Tim commented yet?

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Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:40 PM (P)

I really liked Drive, more than I thought I would. I thought the effects were really cool and Minear did a great job.
With that said, if it hadn't been for our lovely captain, I probably never would have tuned in to watch it in the first place. I did it out of loyalty and expected to be disappointed. I was pleasantly surprised by how good it was.
I can understand that people didn't tune in. The premise seemed really cheesy. I wish Fox would have let it run a little longer until the buzz had a chance to spread. How many times have shows picked up after TV Guide runs their "The Best Shows You Aren't Watching"? I don't blame Fox for cancelling shows that don't get ratings. I do blame them for jumping the gun way too much. Cancelling Drive? Stupid! Cancelling Firefly? UNFORGIVEABLE!!!!

CYBERSNARK

Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:59 PM (P)

What the hell kinda stupid are they?!?

I just wish to Hell I could say I was surprised. This sucks for Nathan, Tim, Amy, and all the rest.

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Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:03 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by BrownCoat1:
I completely agree SergeantX and to that end I give you:

http://www.sanctuaryforall.com/

Certainly many of you have heard of this concept. Sanctuary is a web-based science fiction series that will star Amanda Tappan of Stargate SG1 fame. No networks, no execs, no Nielson boxes to pull the plug. I am thinking this would be a good fit for Firefly or even Drive.

Wow, thanks for the link. I've never heard of that type of thing before. It might be a good idea.

Quote:
Originally posted by bluemoonstuff:
Quote:
Originally posted by SergeantX:
Originally posted by Legolas813:
The science of marketing art is abysmal and really has only figured out how to pander to titillation and stupidity.

I agree 100%. It's a fast food nation we live in and the majority of TV watchers want instant gratification.

I just wanted to point out that I did not make that quote, even though my name is up there.

REDLAVA

Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:09 PM (P)

Son of a Bitch.

JAKE7

Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:52 PM (P)

GORRAMMIT!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why? Why, why, WHY doesn't that station give our heroes a chance?!?!

This show was good. They did NOT promote it once it aired. Other shows get promoted to DEATH, but not this one. I'm beginning to think they have a personal vendetta against both Joss and Tim (and I'm only a fan of Firefly and Drive)...

I'm waiting for Standoff to be cancelled next. I haven't heard when it was coming back, so I assume because that was another good show, it will be gone soon as well...

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Thursday, April 26, 2007 4:16 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by Guywhowantsafireflyofhisown:
Quote:
Originally posted by zerokiryu:
Just e-mailed f*x telling them how stupid they are.

Got the address?

askfox@fox.com

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Thursday, April 26, 2007 4:29 PM (P)

It is becoming quite apparent that "Fox" and "Quality" are two words which do not belong in the same sentence, or paragraph...or even possibly the same continent.

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JORUNE

Thursday, April 26, 2007 4:39 PM (P)

It's a tough life on TV, but Gorram it, Tim and Nathan deserve better than this!

I hope that this doesn't hurt too much for them.

DARKFLY

Thursday, April 26, 2007 5:19 PM (P)

Quote:
Originally posted by zerokiryu:
Quote:
Originally posted by Guywhowantsafireflyofhisown:
Quote:
Originally posted by zerokiryu:
Just e-mailed f*x telling them how stupid they are.

Got the address?

askfox@fox.com

Thanks for the address here's my email I sent them, I know its immature & stupid of me but I'm so pissed with F*X I just can't keep it in anymore they deserve to know what there viewers think of them...

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Thursday, April 26, 2007 5:19 PM (P)

Yeah I checked the ratings.. Drive rated 65th over all... Fox's stupid Trading Spouses and several other shows on Fox ranked much lower. It even beat out the re-runs of House that they are replacing it with...they're just morons ...sad sad morons

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GUYWHOWANTSAFIREFLYOFHISOWN

Thursday, April 26, 2007 8:27 PM (P)

Here's the email I sent

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To: <askfox@fox.com>

Subject: why?

Date: Thu 04/26/07 04:24 PM

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Note: this is for the exec who cancelled Drive, not the poor sod who opens this. I understand that your job entails opening these, and I bare you no ill will

WHY ARE YOU PEOPLE SO RETARDED? WHY CAN'T YOU GIVE A SHOW THE CHANCE TO ACTUALLY GAIN A FOLLOWING BEFORE GIVING IT THE AXE?! FIRST FIREFLY, AND NOW DRIVE! I WOULDN'T WATCH ANOTHER THING ON YOUR CRAPTASTIC NETWORK IF YOU OFFERED ME $10 MILLION JUST FOR WATCHING ONE OF YOUR BRAINLESS SHOWS.

I HOPE YOUR NETWORK WITHERS AS PEOPLE REALIZE THAT FOX AND QUALITY SHOULD NEVER BE USED IN THE SAME PARAGRAPH!

Sincerely,

A royally pissed off ex-viewer

What do you think, was it vitriolic enough?

Why is the rum always gone?

DIRTWEED

Thursday, April 26, 2007 8:52 PM (P)

Damn!

I just told my 9 yr old and he threw a fit.

I'm not surprised though. Still it sucks, I was really liking it. Guess there is no fighting that reality TV crap!

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Dirtweed

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LIGHTMEDARK

Thursday, April 26, 2007 9:23 PM (P)

This just makes me hate the people I share the world with even more...they flock to the crap and walk right by the good. Oh well...

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