Rank the seasons in order of quality
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1. Fall
2. Summer
3. Spring
4. Winter
"Well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." http://whimsicalnbrainpan.blogspot.com/
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Originally posted by Whimsicalnbrainpan:
1. Fall
2. Summer
3. Spring
4. Winter
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LMAO!!!
How can Summer be second?? everyone loves our Summer
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1. Spring
2. Winter
3. Autumn
4. Summer (no offense to Summer Glau)
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1. Autumn (football, comfortable temps., and Thanksgiving)
2. Spring (Winter is over, and the smell of fresh cut grass)
3. Summer (chicks in barely there cloths need I say more?)
4. Winter (I hate snow, and I hate Christmas, so there you go.)
Everybody always has the advantage over us, but that's what makes us special...and Browncoats.
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1) Baseball
2) Football
78) Basketball
79) Hockey
(Not a big basketball or hockey fan
)
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Ok, to set the record straight I meant no disrespect to our girl Summer. And Groosalugg really, baseball first! Well at least you put football in at second I'll give you that. 
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1. Fall (birthday, back at school with friends, new shows on tv, beginning of the Oscar race)
2. Winter (snow, month off of school, Xmas, Black and White shindig after New Years)
3. Summer (working non-stop, summer movies, great weather)
4. Spring (that transition between winter and spring I'm not to big a fan of, and spring just reminds me that four months of working myself to the bone is coming up)
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Originally posted by Whimsicalnbrainpan:
And Groosalugg really, baseball first! Well at least you put football in at second I'll give you that.
Well, you see, my favorite college team (Notre Dame) hasn't won a bowl game since '94. My favorite pro team (KC) hasn't won a playoff game for that same span, minus three weeks or so. On the other hand, my favorite baseball team won the Series in '04 (and if you need to be told who that was, I'm not even going to bother
).But I've always just been a baseball-first kind of guy. Better game, IMO. Richer history...
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Well Notre Dame looks good this year from what I hear. I don't know about KC except that they shut out the 49ers (?) last week. Being a die hard Panthers fan I don't pay much attention to the AFC until it's playoff time. And of course I know who won the '04 World Series, it was the Yankees right?
LMAO! Sorry, couldn't help myself. As much as I hate Baseball I was very glad the Red Sox won since I love the underdog and was born in Boston. I still find baseball to be sooo very boring though. At least you didn't say golf!
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Winter
Spring
Fall
Summer
David
"Not completely as well as the series of Firefly..." - From a review of Serenity at amazon.de
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From best to worst:
Season
3
2
4
7
6
5
1
Today, anyway Chrisisall
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In order from best to least:
3, 2, 5, 4, 1, 6, 7
Yes, I know I'll be enduring Chrisisall's wrath here, but that's my story and I'm sticking to it. 
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Quote:SEVEN IS LEAST GOOD????? WORSE THAN 1?!?!?!?!?!?ARE YE DAFT, LASS?????
Originally posted by deepgirl187:
In order from best to least:
3, 2, 5, 4, 1, 6, 7
What, you don't like Caleb or Faith or Principle Wood? You don't like Spike's sacrifice? Closing the Hellmouth?
Let my wrath spread upon you like peanut butter at the hands of a four-year-old!!!!!!!!!
Wrath-y Chrisisall
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CIA @ thread resurrection ;)
I'm sure I've posted my order about 3 times now, but just to piss off Chris...
2, 3, 1, 4, 5, 7, 6
Season 1 ftw :)
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Quote:Season SIX is the WORST??????
Originally posted by Grounded:
2, 3, 1, 4, 5, 7, 6
You don't like angst and depression and musicals and the Evil Trio?!?!?!?!?! Dark Willow????
May the righteous indignation I'm spewing cover you like a thin, black tarp over an outdoor cooking grill, a cheap tarp, like one that you'd get at Wal-Mart, with a little tear in it from an overzealous stock-guy carelessly weilding a box cutter!!!!!!!!
So there Chrisisall
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From best to worst
3,5,4,1,2,6,7
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Originally posted by Groosalugg:
1) Baseball
2) Football
78) Basketball
79) Hockey
(Not a big basketball or hockey fan)
Rangers still pwn all. Sabers are goin' down- with or WITHOUT the refs help.
Oh, and...
1)Spring
2)Summer
3)Winter
4)Fall
-Danny
A Ghost is all that's Left,
Of everything we Swore we Never would Forget,
Tried to bleed the Sickness,
But we drained our Hearts instead,
We are... We are the DEAD!!!!!!!!!!
THRICE RULES!!!!!!!!!
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awaken
grow
harvest
rest
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Quote:Season seven hatred is like a sickness...like racial prejudice, or a yeast infection. I don't blame y'all, just feel bad is all.
Originally posted by reginaroadie:
From best to worst
3,5,4,1,2,6,7
No bad eps in seven Chrisisall
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Originally posted by Redlava:
1. Autumn (football, comfortable temps., and Thanksgiving)
2. Spring (Winter is over, and the smell of fresh cut grass)
3. Summer (chicks in barely there cloths need I say more?)
4. Winter (I hate snow, and I hate Christmas, so there you go.)
I concurr!!

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Season Three - Very High on quality. Buffy really found it's feet. With all the characters at their best. Great individual episodes and wonderful story arc. Powerful and challenging at times. Often chilling. Excellent. The mayor is pure genuis.
Season Four - Upon repeated viewing this is maybe the funniest of all the seasons. The crossover with Angel working to both shows advantage. Clearly written with love and all the cast and crew are now experts at this stuff.
Season Two - Wonderfully twisted and dark this season. The killing of a Slayer, The Introduction of Spike and Drusilla. The turning of Angel and Buffy at her most vulnerable and the death of Mrs Calendar!
Season One - Just great fun and Entertaining. Slightly riduclous but in a good way. Willow probably at her cutest.
Season Seven - A good conclusion to the show overall, but brought down by several inconsistencies in the mythology.
Hits are - The revenge seeking pricipal, viscious and brutal Caleb and the re-emergence of Faith.
Lows are: Willows 'all mighty' Magic, The Slayerettes, lack of commitment to Spikes 'Soul' and a strange Axe thingy?
Season Five - Strange direction for this show with too many conflicting issues: Glory/Ben cancelling out Joyce's illness. Dawns revelation coming too late to care. Too many designer haircuts distract from the narratives. Characters becoming distinctily unlikable (Willow). However Buffy's death is profound and definative. Touching at times.
Season Six - Not sure what is going on here. Buffy is a different person. Spike/Buffy relationship is wrong and ultimately damages the show. The angry sex issue is feeble and too adolescent. Willow is intensely unlikable and basically a different character entirely. The geeks are fun but drawn out and cracks show early on. One great episode though!
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Som, I agree with all but this:
Quote:Yeah, a recently DEAD person who clawed her way out of a grave, like vamps do.
Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
Season Six - Not sure what is going on here. Buffy is a different person.
Quote:Buffy did it to try to feel SOMETHING, she had 'being dead' issues...
Spike/Buffy relationship is wrong and ultimately damages the show. The angry sex issue is feeble and too adolescent.
Quote:Addictions will do that to a person, and she was having problems w/Tara, which magnified everything.
Willow is intensely unlikable and basically a different character entirely.
Quote:But the Warren killing Tara thing got it VERY serious again.
The geeks are fun but drawn out and cracks show early on.
Quote:
One great episode though!
Let me rest in peace! Chrisisall

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Som, I agree with all but this:
* Somnambulist rolls up sleeves ready for a fisticuff :P*
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Yeah, a recently DEAD person who clawed her way out of a grave, like vamps do.
Hey but she's Buff! Buffy of Buffdom and all round Buffness. She's beyond all that! She aint gonna let a little itch like death get in her way! Is she... er bollocks she is.... :(
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Buffy did it to try to feel SOMETHING, she had 'being dead' issues...
Now on this one I'm going to go all out and hang the writers. I just think they missed the mark. The angry sex thing is just purile. Sorry....
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Addictions will do that to a person, and she was having problems w/Tara, which magnified everything.
Uh uh. She's a wuss. We all go through it. You just have to deal. Not take out the world. It was such a leap from the writers I couldn't go with it. Ok so she had a rough break, but I mean destroy the world over it!!! C'mon.... Nossir not having that one. Even Dawn didn't whinge as much when her mom died, and that is saying summit :P
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But the Warren killing Tara thing got it VERY serious again.
In there lies the inherent flaw to it all. After all their inventiveness and ingenuity, scheming and chicanery all they needed to do was fire a gun! What! Kinda pees all over the Buffy myth don't it? I couldn't believe they went for that.
*Dusts off hands*
Ok so I may seem overly harsh in parts but season six, I watched once - and I really wanna try and watch it again, but it's just so desperately awkward I just find myself unable to re-watch it.
It feels like "Never say Never again" from the Bond franchise.. It's Bond... sorta...but really NOT bond y'know...?

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Quote:It was harsh and unexpected and sort of realistic, that's why I found it so disturbing.
Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
In there lies the inherent flaw to it all. After all their inventiveness and ingenuity, scheming and chicanery all they needed to do was fire a gun! What!
Quote:That's how I feel about season five! Yet I know I'll get it soon when I'm done with season (series
Ok so I may seem overly harsh in parts but season six, I watched once - and I really wanna try and watch it again, but it's just so desperately awkward I just find myself unable to re-watch it.
) four.Not a Glory fan Chrisisall
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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
Ok so I may seem overly harsh in parts but season six, I watched once - and I really wanna try and watch it again, but it's just so desperately awkward I just find myself unable to re-watch it.
My sentiments exactly. I haven't watched one episode from that season since the first time I watched it. I'll get around to it eventually, but it is kind of hard to do.
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Originally posted by chrisisall:That's how I feel about season five! Yet I know I'll get it soon when I'm done with season (series) four.
Season five??? For shame chrisisall. May you be chained in a smelly dungeon and tortured by Drusilla (wait, that might not be a punishment for some people...
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Chrisisall Wrote:
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That's how I feel about season five! Yet I know I'll get it soon when I'm done with season (series) four.
See it's funny, because I think season five works. Even given the rather irritating 'god' Glory/Ben and the minions (totally agree btw) and for some the less than watchable Dawn (who I thought was good, but understand the negativity she got) for the very direction it was heading to - that being
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Buffy's death[/spolier] which I thought was profoundly done.
I'd even go as far as to suggest that Buffy as a complete TV show would have had greater gravitas had it concluded with season five instead of seven. (Even though I do kind of like seven too.)
Six just sits in there struggling to explain all this stuff and ultmately for me it fails to deliver. It does do well with Once More with Feeling which is classic Buffy and more inline with where the show had it's strenghts, but the attempt or contrivances to fracture characters relationships and personalities with it's prolonged angst and darkness just sorta left me...
Hey y'know it could just be me. I think I always loved and followed Buffy for the basic fact that it would entertain me, right from the Pilot.... I think maybe with season six I wasn't that entertained.

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Originally posted by deepgirl187:Quote:
My sentiments exactly. I haven't watched one episode from that season since the first time I watched it. I'll get around to it eventually, but it is kind of hard to do.
Yeah strange that. I think for me it goes back to what I was saying with Chris. That being that ultmately it isn't that entertaining. All of the characters are too disjointed from the characters we'd followed before and so it is very hard to gel with the show when you're struggling to like 'any' of the characters. If one or two were 'changing' then fine but there is a distinct feeling that they're all in a new phase....
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Quote:The History of Chrisisall's Buffy obsession, part 1:
Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
If one or two were 'changing' then fine but there is a distinct feeling that they're all in a new phase....
I came here in 2005 just having watched Firefly, all eager to talk about it and such, and peeps here said "You HAVE to see Buffy, Joss' only complete masterpiece!"
So I ho-hummed my way to Walmart and picked up season 1 on sale for $12, and surprise! I DID like it!!!
Then I got 2...but the tone had changed...it was a lot more brutal, especially when Ms. Calender exited.
So I got 3, and again the tone changed (and the picture got a lot more colourful
)- it was more fun! Cool!Then I got 4, and it was good, yet I missed the Library and (gasp) Cordy. Plus no Angel angst to speak of.
So I then got 5, and again, the tone shifted...sad, sad, and then SAD!!!!
I then sold all my DVD's but 3, determined to forget the bad/sad times.
Then a few months and a lot of Buffy withdrawal later, I got the Chosen Collection, and went from 1 to 7 in three months.
6 was disturbing, but not as much as 5 for me, and 7 was pure gold.
And that my story- I'm sticking to it.
Love/hate Chrisisall
Edit: I forgot my whole point! The show and even characters were never totally the same from season to season, so that's why 6 didn't seem as radical a change to me as it obviously did to others.
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Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
From best to worst:
Season
3
2
4
7
6
5
1
Today, anyway Chrisisall
1,2,3,7,6,5,4
sickofherisall

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Quote:It changed:
Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
From best to worst:
Season
3
2
4
7
6
5
1
Today, anyway Chrisisall
1,2,3,7,6,5,4
sickofherisall
3,4,7,2,6,5,1
As it will tomorrow
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I’m glad someone posted in this thread and brought it back… It’s a good topic… Why's everyone using comas?
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Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:It changed:
Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
From best to worst:
Season
3
2
4
7
6
5
1
Today, anyway Chrisisall
1,2,3,7,6,5,4
sickofherisall
3,4,7,2,6,5,1
As it will tomorrowChrisisall
1,2,3,7,6,5,4
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Quote:It changed:
Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
3,4,7,2,6,5,1
1,2,3,7,6,5,4
We totally agree on 6 & 5, and are sorta close on 3 & 7; our biggest difference is on 1 & 4....I can see loving #1, but how could 4 be last??? It had such great eps...Who Are You...Hush...Restless...
Initiative-loving Chrisisall
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This might change...
3, 4, 2, 6, 5, 1, 7
and also
1 Autumn
2.Spring
3. Winter/Summer
Constance
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Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:The History of Chrisisall's Buffy obsession, part 1:
Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
If one or two were 'changing' then fine but there is a distinct feeling that they're all in a new phase....
I came here in 2005 just having watched Firefly, all eager to talk about it and such, and peeps here said "You HAVE to see Buffy, Joss' only complete masterpiece!"
So I ho-hummed my way to Walmart and picked up season 1 on sale for $12, and surprise! I DID like it!!!
Then I got 2...but the tone had changed...it was a lot more brutal, especially when Ms. Calender exited.
So I got 3, and again the tone changed (and the picture got a lot more colourful)- it was more fun! Cool!
Then I got 4, and it was good, yet I missed the Library and (gasp) Cordy. Plus no Angel angst to speak of.
So I then got 5, and again, the tone shifted...sad, sad, and then SAD!!!!
I then sold all my DVD's but 3, determined to forget the bad/sad times.
Then a few months and a lot of Buffy withdrawal later, I got the Chosen Collection, and went from 1 to 7 in three months.
6 was disturbing, but not as much as 5 for me, and 7 was pure gold.
And that my story- I'm sticking to it.
Love/hate Chrisisall
Edit: I forgot my whole point! The show and even characters were never totally the same from season to season, so that's why 6 didn't seem as radical a change to me as it obviously did to others.
Well Big 'C'
It's a good point and well put.... :D
I guess I'm more for Evolution rather than Revolution - Six seemed like a revolt to me. Like Marti Noxon had finally been given the lead and boy did she take it!! It has her mark all over it. Not in a bad way just... no... wait.. in a bad way!!!
:D
Gun-sticking-to! The Somnambulist
Oh and dude I remember your ascention into Buffy Heaven! I think I was their coaxing you on, baiting you, with remarks like:
"Hey now you've done one you are going to want to do two, then Three.. you watch :D"
Oh one other thing I must ask.... How was FIVE disturbing to you? It was disturbing to me too, but I'd like to know to what extent it was disturbing for you ?

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Originally posted by Lexan:
I’m glad someone posted in this thread and brought it back… It’s a good topic… Why's everyone using comas?
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Coz there was no season:
Two million, four hundred and sixty three thousand, five hundred and seventeen.... That's why we use comas.


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Quote:Yep, you werte definitely one of them!
Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
Oh and dude I remember your ascention into Buffy Heaven! I think I was their coaxing you on, baiting you, with remarks like:
"Hey now you've done one you are going to want to do two, then Three.. you watch :D"

Quote:Seeing them write out Riley was painful, and more so because it didn't feel quite natural, you know, like it was Rebound Guy's time to get the boot...then Joyce got it, and by this time I was a kleenex-surrounded mess. Then "She saved the world. A lot" was the final nail in my emotional coffin. Nothing in six could total me like that, nothing.
Oh one other thing I must ask.... How was FIVE disturbing to you? It was disturbing to me too, but I'd like to know to what extent it was disturbing for you ?
And intertwined in this weepy rollercoaster ride was an irritating God (or so she called herself) whining about stuff, but not DOING much.
Many cite The Body as the best ep from 5, but my favourite is Fool For Love; The Body is just too damn hard for me to watch- and I've only seen it two times.
Personal baggage here: I came home to find my Mom passed also, however, she was in bed- still, it's kinda too close for comfort, but that was what the ep was about anyway- getting thrown out of our comfort zones. And as such, it was brilliant.
Still, the season has great moments I want to re-visit...
Chrisbotisall

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Yeah the way Joss wrote 'The Body' was incredible. I also don't want to repeat the experience of watching that either. I think I did Joss the honour of watching the episode then listening to his commentary, but after that. Nossir, too much weight for me!
That said I think Season Five's finale is one of the best. It so profoundly stated what being a Slayer was, giving all the build up before hand a significance, a meaning a value that concluded in one beautiful moment that established a slayers death as the act of preserving life.
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Quote:Nicely put *Rembers Kirk blowing up the Enterprise- sorry for the needless sidebar*
Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
a slayers death as the act of preserving life.
The Gift is a great ep....and count me as one who actually likes Buffy Vs. Dracula.
And any ep with Buffybot.
cinquo Chrisisall
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Hmm... can't remember if I've responded before, so I'm responding again!
From best to worst:
5 - most consistant season, I love Buffy & Dawn, I love Joyce's role, I love Buffy not needing a man, I like Glory (she's funny)
6 - though parts of the season where weak, the parts that hit really hit. This is the most complex, grown-up, intensely dark season.
3 - okay... it could be argued that season three is a little more consistant than season five, but it doesn't have the same emotional depth. I love the mayor.
2 - amazing finale, almost everything after Innocence is gold, but... eh, there are lots of HORRIBLE standalones and the first half of the season in mediocre. Plus, I was never the biggest Angel fan.
7 - Say what you will, but it is a solid season. Overall, I think it doesn't give us the character growth of, say, season five, two, or six, but it has a bunch of great stand-out episodes and very few duds.
4 - I just couldn't get sold on the over-arcing plot. The intiative was a cool idea but the execution was horrible. Adam did nothing for me. It had some of the best standalones (Hush, Who are You, Something Blue, etc.), but they couldn't save the season.
1 - It is a lot of fun, but its just not Buffy yet. I do enjoy it, thought. Even "I Robot, You Jane". :-)
Arcadia (aka Greyfable and/or Katie)
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Quote:You're only saying that 'cause you're a girl. The Initiative WAS cool, and the James Bond-y ending was great!
Originally posted by Arcadia:
4 - I just couldn't get sold on the over-arcing plot. The intiative was a cool idea but the execution was horrible.
Arrested adolecent Chrisisall

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Coz there was no season:
Two million, four hundred and sixty three thousand, five hundred and seventeen.... That's why we use comas.
Yeah, but I think it looks better without comas and obviously is not two million four and and sixty three thousand, five hundred and seventeen because that's only one number and there are seven seasons...I would use comas only if Buffy had ten or more seasons... Otherwise why waste the chance to not use comas...
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Originally posted by Lexan:Quote:
Coz there was no season:
Two million, four hundred and sixty three thousand, five hundred and seventeen.... That's why we use comas.
Yeah, but I think it looks better without comas and obviously is not two million four and and sixty three thousand, five hundred and seventeen because that's only one number and there are seven seasons...I would use comas only if Buffy had ten or more seasons... Otherwise why waste the chance to not use comas...
Lexan I was just messing around. :D
However I find your lack of faith in the humble coma slightly disturbing.

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I found the first season, where Mal and the gang were introduced, the best.
The second season, where Saffron took over as captain while Mal had to tunnel his way out of an alliance prison, certainly had zest.
The third, with the birth of baby Wash Jr. and Jayne's decision to come out, was emotionally resonant.
The fouth, with the discovery that Shepard Book was Zoe's dad and Inara's decision to give up the life of a companion and start training as ship's mechanic, lacked credibility.
I look forward the the fifth season and the continued success of this wonderful show, and I salute Fox for its commitment to quality programming.
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2# Fall
3#Spring
4# Winter
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Ok slight ammendment here. I've just re-watched seasons five and seven and I think I need to change my order. Therefore....
1 - Season Three
2 - Season Four
3 - SeasonTwo
4 - Season Seven
5 - Season One
6 - Season Five
7 - Season Six
I have elevated season seven up a peg.
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Dawn is a much improved character, Giles' return is welcomed and DB woodside is funny. The Slayerettes are annoying but on the plus side most of them are killed off! So that actually is more enjoyable second time around!! Lastly, Faith making a return is nifty!
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Quote:*...and there was much rejoicing!*
Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
I have elevated season seven up a peg.
Note: Two would be higher on my list if Angelus didn't seem to be wasting time- he plodded when he should have come on like a hurricane (same problem w/Glory). Oh, and the 16mm thing.
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Quote:"That's so funny, sweetie."
Originally posted by chapterandverse:
I look forward the the fifth season and the continued success of this wonderful show, and I salute Fox for its commitment to quality programming.

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chrisisall wrote:
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Note: Two would be higher on my list if Angelus didn't seem to be wasting time- he plodded when he should have come on like a hurricane (same problem w/Glory). Oh, and the 16mm thing.
I didn't mind the 16mm stock. It gave it a more authentic look. Similar reason why I like Terminator to it's sequels. The dirt filth and grime add weight to it's theme.
That said I was happy with Buffy with a slicker look also, but by that time they could have released Buffy as a flip-book and I'd still have watched. After Season one I was intrigued, and genuinely charmed. Mid-way through Season two I was just plain hooked!
I guess Angel plodding was a character flaw. He savoured the kill, he regarded it as poetry and would detail each step as verse. I was into that side of his character, but yes ultimtately it was his downfall.
Thinking about it though they dispensed with that side of his personality when he went to Los Angeles.....
Keenly watching season seven with unfamiliar glee, once again! - TheSomnambulist
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Quote:I just thought, was going slow his subconscious way of giving Buffy time to get prepared-?
Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
I guess Angel plodding was a character flaw... ultimtately it was his downfall.
Naw, strike that- he lost his soul, and really would have killed her...
Reachin' here Chrisisall
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Well yes... the arc comes first I suppose. So having the big bad procrastinate is par for the course.
Glory
Spike
Angel
The First
All big on the 'crastinating like a 'pro'
:D
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:"That's so funny, sweetie."
Originally posted by chapterandverse:
I look forward the the fifth season and the continued success of this wonderful show, and I salute Fox for its commitment to quality programming.
Ah shucks
Thanks! I really needed that today!
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3
2 (I liked it more, I think, but being objective I gotta give it up to 3)
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5
HONKS
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Quote:Curious, WTE, what is it about 5 that puts it at the bottom for you?
Originally posted by WTE:
3
2 (I liked it more, I think, but being objective I gotta give it up to 3)
4
7
1
6
5
The Dawn of Chrisisall
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Originally posted by WTE:
3
2 (I liked it more, I think, but being objective I gotta give it up to 3)
Agreed. The first half of season two wasn't as consistent, but the second half was more than enough to make up for it. On the other hand, season three had great episodes throughout (though it's still not as jaw-dropping as season two, in my mind).
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Curious, WTE, what is it about 5 that puts it at the bottom for you?
The Dawn of Chrisisall
Well, for me, 5 had three absolutely stunning episodes (The Body, Fool for Love, the Gift), but the rest felt a little lacking. I dunno, maybe it it tread a little too far into the fantasy genre for me, with the knights trying to get Dawn and Glory's weird minions... and I wasn't too crazy about the actual character of Glory, either. I guess, for all the hype she got from being a god, she just didn't seem as impressive. Which makes sense story-wise, since even Buffy can't kill a full-fledged god, but it left me feeling wanting.
Otherwise, it was character stuff. I liked Buffy just fine, but I felt Xander got a little too wimpified. And I know Xander was never Mr. Strong Man, and he was my favorite character for that (that is, I could relate :p ), but I think they took that too far. Like in the episode where he splits into two halves? The "weak" half or whatever was basically regular Xander at that point. I don't think they really fixed that until the season 6 finale, which I absolutely adored.
However, I'm willing to forgive all that because of Giles in the wizard's hat.
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WTE, we think as one here.
But I loved Anya's origin!!!!
Aud Chrisisall
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Well, for me, 5 had three absolutely stunning episodes (The Body, Fool for Love, the Gift), but the rest felt a little lacking. I dunno, maybe it it tread a little too far into the fantasy genre for me, with the knights trying to get Dawn and Glory's weird minions... and I wasn't too crazy about the actual character of Glory, either. I guess, for all the hype she got from being a god, she just didn't seem as impressive. Which makes sense story-wise, since even Buffy can't kill a full-fledged god, but it left me feeling wanting.
Otherwise, it was character stuff. I liked Buffy just fine, but I felt Xander got a little too wimpified. And I know Xander was never Mr. Strong Man, and he was my favorite character for that (that is, I could relate :p ), but I think they took that too far. Like in the episode where he splits into two halves? The "weak" half or whatever was basically regular Xander at that point. I don't think they really fixed that until the season 6 finale, which I absolutely adored.
However, I'm willing to forgive all that because of Giles in the wizard's hat.
Very nicely put. I'm with you on all that you just said.
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
But I loved Anya's origin!!!!
Aud Chrisisall
That was a jem no doubt. I don't know if you've noticed but next to Joss, Drew Goddard is the next best comedy writer.... Well he and Jane Espenson are equal I guess. He frequently writes the funnier episodes, even now he writes for Lost, his stuff is always funny. And that's tough with Lost, it's not exactly trying for the humour so he does very well to have any in at all.
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Kind of hard. I don’t know if I could state absolutely what order I would go with, but this sounds good me. But I would hasten to add that I don’t think that the season order is equidistant. I think 3 and 4 and 5 are pretty close together. And 1 and 2 are pretty close together. 6 and 7 are probably close together, but they are both so far away that the rest look like a point source from them.
3,4,5,1,2,6,7
A caveat is that I never actually watched all of season 7. Season 6 killed the magic for me.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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Quote:That's weird, 'cause that's initially how I felt about 5! At the end of seeing it, I cursed Joss, dried the tears squeezed out of me from The Body, and sold the season to a used CD/DVD place- it irked me that much.
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
A caveat is that I never actually watched all of season 7. Season 6 killed the magic for me.
But lack O' Buffy soon forced me to get the Chosen Collection, and continue my journey, and after season five, I found six to be fascinating. It may be that I had some similar RL experiences- there was a couple of years a while back (like two decades!!!
) where I was utterly heartbroken, and 'going through the motions', as Buffy said. Funny how when you have no need for sex, the possibility seems to present itself over and over again. Like Buffy, those moments were the only time I felt even half-alive again, carnal urges brought to the surface and such.So season six is totally okay with me, and seven is GREAT, IMO, 'cause she comes totally out of that, and finally takes charge of her destiny!
But I understand how peeps milage may vary.
Stupid fan Chrisisall
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You're not stupid, Chrisisall, just obsessed like the rest of us. 
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I'm NOT obsessed, I tell ya!!! I'M NOT!!!
(When's the next Buffy comic out, btw?)
Just got #4 Chrisisall
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Season 5 was devoid of the playful innocence in season 1. It was about a mature Buffy, who was on her own and struggling to keep her family together. Fighting for her sister, fraught with the loss of her mother and facing overwhelming odds that ultimately culminated in an act of bravery and selflessness that only a true heroine would accept. It was the logical progression, in the Buffy’s coming of age. We always knew she would have to die. The tragic death of a Slayer was a constraint that was applied to the storyline right from the beginning. Season five was where it should have ended and season six just sort of rambled around with no real direction. As far as I’m concerned there are only five seasons of Buffy. The last two are just writers and tv execs milking the genre, which is fine; they have to bring home the bacon like everyone else.
That’s not to say there weren’t some good episodes and some excellent writing in Season 6 and 7. There were, but it just didn’t fit into the story.
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Quote:I SO totally disagree with you, Finn. Seasons six, and even seven, did meander a bit, but they were about an adult Buffy & co. re-defining themselves, discovering who they were in the world. The metaphore of Buffy coming back from the dead was a thinly veiled 'going out in the world' after the protection of parents and school, IMO.
Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
As far as I’m concerned there are only five seasons of Buffy. The last two are just writers and tv execs milking the genre, which is fine; they have to bring home the bacon like everyone else.
And I so totally loved Buffy changing the rules from those that MEN devised so long ago! To me, it was the perfect cap on the saga!!!
There was a time when I would have said that for me it ends with season four- boy am I glad I went all the way.
But I do see your point, and it is a perfectly valid one, if you like those all-or-nothing endings. I just love the last frame of the last ep too much to trade it for more a more realistic (whatever that means in the Buffy'verse) ending.
Respectfully, (I got that from Zoid
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Originally posted by WTE:
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2 (I liked it more, I think, but being objective I gotta give it up to 3)
Agreed. The first half of season two wasn't as consistent, but the second half was more than enough to make up for it. On the other hand, season three had great episodes throughout (though it's still not as jaw-dropping as season two, in my mind).
I wouldn't call the first half of season two inconsistent, assuming you're saying in terms of quality. A lot of people seem to like season two mainly for the second half and believe the first to be inferior. The 'monster of the week'episodes ('Reptile Boy', 'Go Fish' etc) seem to be considered as what makes the season qualitatively inconsistent, but I don't think so. To me, this creates more variety. These episodes are still clever, especially when compared to the lesser episodes of other seasons.
Also, I didn't like particuarly like season five, because it was the season that was least Buffy-ish, not season six, or even season seven. It was probably because of the different, sort of blander tone and the fact that the dialogue was plainer and not as witty.
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I think the first half of season two suffered not from a lack of good ideas--I think the monsters-of-the-week were at the very least entertaining--but a lack of emotion. They were witty, and fun to watch, and at times really cool, but the second half is when Buffy really started to pull me in emotionally, and when it got me reacting to episodes with something deeper than just, "That was pretty cool." When was Lie to Me? I think that was the first episode of the second season to hit me.
HONKS
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