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Monday, November 5, 2007 10:10 PM

Matrix Revulsions: The last thirty minutes worth of moments!!!!!GRRRRR



The last angry Chrisisall

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Monday, November 5, 2007 10:23 PM

I know this movie is considered a modern classic by some, but I couldn't stand "Scarface". I considered it a total waste of money and two hours I'll never get back.

For me, in any movie, there has to be at least one character I can identify with or sympathize with. Scarface didn't have a single character that I identified or sympathized with. They were all low lifes.

I'd given some thought to movin' off the edge -- not an ideal location -- thinkin' a place in the middle.

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Monday, November 5, 2007 10:30 PM

Steel Magnolias:

*Frakkin' spoilers here*

They tell debra that if she goes through with the pregnancy that she'll probably die- so she goes with it anyway- so she can....
*YOU GOT IT!*
DIE!!
And we can all go boo-hoo....



eff that crap Chrisisall

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Monday, November 5, 2007 10:49 PM

Notting Hill:
Would you like some orange juice?
Yes please I would love some orange juice.
A large orange juice?
Yes, well...maybe not...maybe I should just get a medium orange juice...but I'd like a large orange juice...maybe I could get a medium orange juice and a small orange juice and end up somewhere in between and medium and a large orang...*walks out*

I swear I couldn't take it anymore. wtf did that have to do with anything? It hurt my brain so much. At least the girl I was with hated it too. The dialog was just so awful. I'm seriously in some pain right now just thinking about it. That's the only movie I've ever walked out on.

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Monday, November 5, 2007 10:50 PM

i'm with you on matrix* 3!!!!! i actually threw things!

aeon flux - i forget which moment did for me, i just remember the active fleeing i did! except maybe that was tank girl - or johnny mnemoronic.

non sci-fi? uh... that crummy thriller with nicole kidman - uh, was it called the Translator??? something like that.


* am a big matrix fan otherwise.

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Monday, November 5, 2007 10:51 PM

The movie Titanic, I actually never saw it, but let me give you a spoiler the ship sinks...

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Monday, November 5, 2007 10:57 PM

The Thin Red Line
I was really looking forward to this movie. Trailers made it look good. I don't mind films taking their time to get somewhere, even if they are not going anywhere....
....but this bored me to tears. Maybe I just wasn't in the mood on that particular day, but I kept falling asleep (unheard of for me when watching a cinema screening). I was so close to walking out.

Not really a film but the trailer for Die Hard 4 just made me go "No, no, NO".
I love the first three but that trailer was too far fetched, and I've been told that the actual film is the same. I now simply refuse to watch no.4, it does not exist, there is just a trilogy.

More recently the jazz club dance scene in Spidey 3. What were they thinking??? The walking down the street thinking he was cool was bad enough but the club bit was just way too much. At this point I'd lost interest and it didn't matter how good the rest of the film was that scene had ruined it. The rest of the film didn't make anything up either.

P.S. (read with heavy sarcasm)
Thanks Chrisisall. You've just ruined Steel Magnolias for me. I was SO going to watch that movie tonight. For my revenge, you should know that Beth dies in Little Women!!!



"I don't believe in suicide, but if you'd like to try it it might cheer me up to watch."

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Monday, November 5, 2007 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rallem:
The movie Titanic, I actually never saw it, but let me give you a spoiler the ship sinks...



ah you really aint seen it - coz in the movie it DON'T SINK!!! there's like this misty golden glow some even worse fake irish dancing music and they go up into space till they come down again all, like, real OLD but kind and wise coz that freakin genius Cameron pulled a fast one and made Cocoon 3!!

it was a time HOLE. not an ice berg - we actually get a clever tip off when DeCaprio quotes Bob Dylan lyrics early in the film (and that's not a joke and was the point at which i threw up my hands and stormed out).

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Monday, November 5, 2007 11:02 PM

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Originally posted by lwaves:
Spidey 3.
it didn't matter how good the rest of the film was that scene had ruined it. The rest of the film didn't make anything up either.


I kind of liked it...no, I really liked it...I mean, it was no Fantastic Four 2 or anything, but quite enjoyable IMHO.

Flame On Chrisisall

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Monday, November 5, 2007 11:20 PM

SOLARIS - The George Clooney/Steven Soderberg remake of it that came out in 02. Bored me to tears, didn't go anywhere and eventually I just got up and left. That's the only time I've ever walked out of a movie because of the quality of the flick. Other times, it was because maybe I was tired or just not in the mood.

And I completely agree with the sentiments about SPIDER-MAN 3.

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Monday, November 5, 2007 11:21 PM

Chrisisall,you always come up with such interesting questions !!!!

For me it was the end of Revenge of The Sith....the other 2 movies were bad enough,but when Anakin finally gets into the Darth Vader suit and does his frankenstein's monster impersonation..it was the last straw for me.

I still wish Lucas had never done his prequels...they were all a HUGE disappointment.

Ewan McGregor was the only shiny thing about those awful films.

But my 7 year old boy loves them

Bryce
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Way I remember it , albatross was a ship's good luck..'til some idiot killed it.

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Monday, November 5, 2007 11:41 PM

Two words.


Napoleon. Dynamite.



The only - the ONLY - movie I have ever thought was completely beyond any hope of being anything but a pointless waste of time before I was done watching it. Most unfortunately I could not actually throw up my hands and walk out on any of the numerous occasions I had the urge to, because for some INSANE reason the guy I went with was enjoying it, and on that particular night he was my ride.


Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.

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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 12:14 AM

Well I didn't really throw my arms up in despair or storm out... But I did throw my boot at the TV after watching Requiem for a Dream. Absolute claptrap!

Did similar thing with David Cronenbergs Crash and almost threw my 'wholeself' at the tv after watching The Idiots!

Noteable mentions to Fifth Element, Alien vs Predator, Resident Evil I & II, Underworld I & II and pretty much any film that Brian De Palma directs (Scareface, Dressed to Kill, Blow out etc) for making me want to through the film makers at my TV after watching their films.





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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 12:17 AM

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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:

Noteable mentions to Fifth Element

Dude, what was wrong with the Fifth Element? Should it have been in French?

Mai oui Chrisisall

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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 12:54 AM

Yeah, the Fifth Element was awesome. I mean, Gary Oldman's character was kinda blah, but he's really a sideshow. The movie is about Bruce Willis with guns and that redheaded chick wearing band-aids and Chris Tucker in a dress.

The soundtrack actually includes that whole long monologue Tucker does when he first enters. You know... "KORBEN DALLAS! Here he is, the one and only winner of the Gemini Croquette contest! This boy is fueled... LIKE FIRE!" And all that.

There's two kinds of people in this world: those with loaded guns, and those who dig.
Now DIG.

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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 1:26 AM

I'm thinkin' my "omfg wtf" movie moment is going to have to go with the Rocky movies. I know these are considered classics and great feel goods but they were so predictable. As time went on, they only got worse. I will say number one and 2 weren't bad, I can tolerate those. However from 3 on were just HORRIBLE. Even the new one. Ugh. And the fact they are on TV all the time pisses me off. Except for Rocky V. That one is never on. WORST FILM EVER = Rocky V.

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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 1:48 AM

I liked Fifth Element too.

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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 1:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Steel Magnolias:

And we can all go boo-hoo....

I just don’t have any sympathy for you, dude. Anyone with an ounce of testosterone would have known to stay away from that movie. I’ve never seen it. I’ve never seen Beaches or Thelma and Louise, and I never will.

I did see Titanic, which while way too long, wasn’t all that bad.



Some movies that make shoving toothpicks under your toenails feel good:

Saw.
Walked out, after about an hour. I don’t know what to say about it. If you watched this movie all the way though, you should seek help.

Norbit.
Hate my friends as a result of being forced to watch this crap because I didn’t have a way home.

Son of the Mask.
Went about an hour, then found doing the dishes more entertaining.

Elekra.
I watched it - the whole thing - so it wasn‘t repulsive, but I shouldn‘t have wasted my time.

Any Highlander following the first one.
Does anyone else get the impression that the people who make all the Highlanders following the first one, never actually saw the first one?

Any Matrix following the first one.
Is it possible to make a masterpiece of science fiction and then flush it down the toilet with the creation of a sequel? It is.

Any Rambo following the first one.
Ya know some movies should just learn when to stop.

Anything starring Jessica Alba in which she is not an invisible scientist or a genetically enhanced soldier.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 1:59 AM

Since no one's mentioned a TV show, here's mine:

Second and third episodes of Moonlight: The second one had me pulling my hair out, the third bored me to tears so much that I just eventually went to bed.

Human Nature (Doctor Who) - I wasn't the quality of the episode (it's actually one of the best episodes of the season), it's just that The Doctor pissed me off so much I wanted to throw blunt objects at the TV screen.

Sanctuary (Angel) - Once again, not a quality issue, I just wanted to murder Buffy.

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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 2:37 AM

The very first Star Trek movie. They spent five minutes just flying around the Enterprise so evryone could see the great job they did with this special effect. It was so bad I am suprised I saw the Wrath of Khan.


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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 2:55 AM

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Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
Two words.


Napoleon. Dynamite.




I was literally praying for God to toss a spare lightning bolt my way during that. I swear that must be one those movies that has to be watched while you're stoned, and since that ain't my thing, I never needed to see it.

Spidey 3 was bad. Sony made Raimi shoehorn in Venom, which is a character that deserved to be the sole bad guy, but the rest of movie was just Raimi's fault. The jazz/dance scenes could have been lost, Sandman could have been better developed, Bruce Campbell wasn't funny(and I've been a fan of his since Brisco), and the Peter/Mary Jane stuff was ripped out of one of Raimi's earlier projects "For Love of the Game" down to the "Are you there?" on the answering machine. After the triumph of the second one the third one really deserved to be made by someone that wasn't sick of the material.

I wanted to start a cheering section for Titanic during DiCaprio's death scene, but didn't have enough friends with me.

As for The Fifth Element, the only thing I would have changed would be to add a Chris Tucker death scene. Something nice and painful.

Saw the first Matrix at the base theater same day I saw Knotting Hill. Was blown away completely by the Matrix, but I'm happy that I skipped paying to see the sequels. As for Knotting Hill, that movie belonged to Hugh Grant's flatmate.

Oh, and the latest would be the film version of Phantom - I hate broadway musicals anyway, and I had no idea that I was being dragged to see a film version of one. During the graveyard scene I almost yelled out, "GUT him you moron! Oh, no, they're singing AGAIN!"


I’m never serious. Serious means something bad is about to happen.

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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 3:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
Two words.


Napoleon. Dynamite.



I HATE that movie!!

And Spider-man 3 was awful, they tried to do too much. And the guy from that 70's show playing Eddie Brock was just wrong.

I sooooo wanted to walk out on Ghost Rider, that movie could have been awesome.

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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 4:08 AM

I can’t believe you guys are dissing Napoleon Dynamite. That movie is a surreal exposition into the lives of complete losers.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 4:10 AM

Bad time to say I actually liked Napolean Dynamite, eh? Ha ha. *is loser*. Out of everyone I know who saw it, they either LOVED it or hated it. There was no happy medium.

And I couldn't agree more about the Saw movies. Over rated. I saw the first one and was not impressed. I think it gives sick people ideas, IMO however I'm not against in the making of them. I'm also one of the 5% of people who thought Hostel was worse. (blood-torture terms) There was something about it that made me go "OMFG!! THEY ACTUALLY MADE THIS?!"

"Saw" seemed a little too...extreme...ly...fake. Hostel was made to look like it could actually happen.

And eff the Matrix Movies. Snore. LoL.

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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 4:24 AM

YES!!! THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA is the worst movie of 2004. My hatred for that film speaks volumes.

Also, completely agree with you on NAPOLEON DYNAMITE. Not once did I laugh or think it was an awesome flick that defines a generation. Especially in comparison to Fox Searchlight's other summer sleeper GARDEN STATE.

I cringe whenever I see a "Vote for Pedro" sticker or t-shirt.

And same for Chris Tucker in FIFTH ELEMENT. He was one of the worser things about that movie. Really overrated and pales in comparison to Luc Besson's earlier flick LEON THE PROFESSIONAL.

But I disagree with REQUIEM FOR A DREAM. If you see it in the theater, it's an amazing movie that really hits you and makes you want to swear off aspirin, let alone drugs legal or illegal. You want to scare teens off of drugs, show them that.

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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 4:29 AM

Ditto on Matrix 3.

Didn't actually go see The Hills Have Eyes in the theater, but my friend rented it - I just about hit him in the eye for making me watch it. What disgusting slop that movie was.

I was pissed that I wasted my money on Solaris.



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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 5:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LittleAlbatross29:
Chrisisall,you always come up with such interesting questions !!!!

For me it was the end of Revenge of The Sith....the other 2 movies were bad enough,but when Anakin finally gets into the Darth Vader suit and does his frankenstein's monster impersonation..it was the last straw for me.

I still wish Lucas had never done his prequels...they were all a HUGE disappointment.

Ewan McGregor was the only shiny thing about those awful films.

But my 7 year old boy loves them

Bryce
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Way I remember it , albatross was a ship's good luck..'til some idiot killed it.



Thank You! I thought I was the only one who noticed Manakin's Frankenstein's monster impression! That monent ruined pretty much the entire saga for me, though, the new Jedi interceptors looked AWSOME!

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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 6:50 AM

I rarely walk out of a film, for a number of reasons. However, I will amend this topic during my post to the second half of the title.

Titanic - Real world research on the Titanic found for the first time the real cause of the sinking, which had been refuted since the Court of Inquiry. This occurred during filming, and well before completion of filming. However, Cameron refused to accurately portray the cause - this could have been the first time in the history of all the Titanic films to have complete accuracy, and he blew it. The actual cause had already been stated in the Court of Inquiry, and was stated by the Primary Engineer on the crew of the shipbuilder in Scotland. Then the filmakers blab ad nauseum about how the deck chairs and flatware were so accurate, when they all knew they completely falsified the cause of the sinking. Duh!

Thin Red Line - Sean Penn pretending to act, takes his helmet off in combat to show off his hippie hair while pretneding to portray a soldier or Marine, because his hair is the only way he can relate to a character or pretend to be somebosy else - different hairstyle. whooo. An "actor" who can't suffer a haircut to portray a role isn't worth spit.

Likewise, anything with will smith - the fresh Prince of the Marine Airwing meets Aliens, The fresh Prince of Men in Black, Fresh Prince of Miami Vice, blah blah blah.

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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 7:43 AM

Sadly, I watched a new ep of Stargate Sunday- because it had Morena in it. I lasted about 10 minutes- it was like a *R*E*A*L*L*Y*, really bad episode from the 3rd year of original Star Trek-- space ships and power surges and people beaming up and beaming down. All it lacked was dilithium crystals failing.

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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 5:58 PM

Chrisisall Wrote:

Quote:

Dude, what was wrong with the Fifth Element? Should it have been in French?


Well it was too camp for my blood.

Gary Oldman does his usual overacting hammy thing.

The whole film looks like a bad doodle and the art direction dated as it went along.

The costumes are too visually strident and take you out of the story.

I've never been able to fully disengage reality when large aliens become human subjects and are considerably smaller than there alien mass. I know it's petty but that has always irked me when I see that.

Plus the Aliens are poorly designed. Nothing inventive about them.

Finally a paroxide Bruce Willis!

Plus points are:

Nice martial arts from Mila (no I don't find her attractive, but I liked her physicality with the martial arts)

Bryon James, Lee Evans, Charlie Creed-Miles and Ian Holm.

Sorry to be such a misery but I just didn't 'get' this film. Just one of those things.

And I like Luc Besson - The Big Blue is just beautiful. If you have the chance watch it!



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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 6:20 PM

posted by reginaroadie:

Quote:

But I disagree with REQUIEM FOR A DREAM. If you see it in the theater, it's an amazing movie that really hits you and makes you want to swear off aspirin, let alone drugs legal or illegal. You want to scare teens off of drugs, show them that.


Oh please no Reginaroadie... I'm so glad I didn't have the misfortune of being dragged to the cinema to watch this. (As I was with the 1st Harry Potter film!)

I don't much think it would work to deter kids or anyone off drugs. It's a self indulgent trip of simplistic righteousness and it is relentless. It slams it at you right from the beginning and doesn't let go. Melodrama follows melodrama with absolutely no narrative flow. It just didn't earn its right to be so preachy.

Anyway - ignore me... I must admit over the years my distaste for this film has maybe grown disproportionately so. I would therefore never want to put people off from watching it. I'm sure if you enjoy a little social commentary/human melodrama with your films you may enjoy this....

It just wasn't for me.

Napoleon Dynamite though I did like.



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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 6:24 PM

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Originally posted by traveler:
The very first Star Trek movie. They spent five minutes just flying around the Enterprise so evryone could see the great job they did with this special effect.

I loved that scene and the whole movie in general- The Director's Cut is one of my top ten favourites of all time, you Denebian slime devil!!

Tiberiusisall

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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 6:25 PM

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Originally posted by zerokiryu:


I sooooo wanted to walk out on Ghost Rider, that movie could have been awesome.


Ghost Rider sucked, which is surprising seeing as the Director's cut of Daredevil was so cool...

Murdockisall

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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 6:25 PM

Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:

Quote:

I can’t believe you guys are dissing Napoleon Dynamite. That movie is a surreal exposition into the lives of complete losers.


How about when his uncle threw that steak in his face! That just cracked me up.

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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 6:34 PM

Originally posted by jossisagod:

Quote:

Thank You! I thought I was the only one who noticed Manakin's Frankenstein's monster impression!


Was he even in that get-up? I thought it looked totally CG? I only saw it once so I can't be sure.

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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 6:52 PM

300
End of story.
A gorefest for the simple minded.
Sorry if you like it, but I cringed as my IQ dropped several points from the unadelterated ass-raping of History and Culture- Greek and Iranian both.

-Danny

and every time I play with passion I start breaking strings,
and my voice cracks when I sing from my heart
guess that's the price I've got to pay to know that I'm alive
this melody is tearing me apart


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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 8:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
Originally posted by jossisagod:

Quote:

Thank You! I thought I was the only one who noticed Manakin's Frankenstein's monster impression!


Was he even in that get-up? I thought it looked totally CG? I only saw it once so I can't be sure.

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Yes, Hayden was in the costume, though, he had to look out of the mouth piece, because he was a little shorter than the original Darth Vader actor. Even if it was CG, that still does not excuse the worst body language acting in history!

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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 8:43 PM

Meet the Hollowheads. This made no sense, had no plot, and not even anything to distract from the drug-induced ideas. "In the future, we will eat the tenticles of space creatures" Ugh. My sister has a talent for finding these movies. She has been forbidden from doing that anymore.

After the World Ended - watched this last night. At home. Considered walking out to the trash can with the dvd. But it was Netflix's so I just returned it. The premise was neat, a documentary of the last 180 people in San Fran, 12 years after a plague decimated the world. But I couldn't get into it. Everyone was too pretty, neatly washed/groomed/clothes in great shape. People still did their previous occupations, instead of working to get food. The only highlight was Adam Savage as an engineer that keeps electricity going.

Most 80's horror movies - why bother with a plot? Just throw blood around, and make sure there's lots of T and A. Ugh.

Facts of Life reunion - avoided like the plague bearing brain destroying waste it was. My mom and sisters watched it. I left and went to the opposite side of the house.

Anything with Ben Affleck. Pretty boy can't act.

Agree with Titanic, and Highlander after #1. Although, if you are a sexually repressed teenager, the sex scenes in Highlander 2 and 3 are enough to send you to your bunk.


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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 8:46 PM

yeh but revenge of the sith will live forever in my heart for the line "I've waited a long time for this my little green friend" snort!

oh - and mannequin getting his arm and legs chopped off "It's just a flesh wound you b-st--d!"

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Tuesday, November 6, 2007 10:41 PM

The 'plot' of Napoleon Dynamite:

Nothing happens.
Nothing continues to happen.
Something random and unrelated to anything happens.
Ear-grating dialogue backed up with flat acting.
Cute girl number one.
Nothing happens.
Gosh!
Something kind of starts happening, but we're not sure which part of the 'story' matters in any way, shape, or form.
Cute girl number two. This one can act. She is the only one in the movie who can, and she has maybe three lines.
A few things happen that are vaguely related to things that sort of happened before.
Best moment in the movie. It involves gang bangers and no dialogue. At all.
Some sort of conclusion is reached and there is dancing.


Worst. Movie. Ever.


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Wednesday, November 7, 2007 12:01 AM

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Originally posted by gorramgroupie:
Anything with Ben Affleck. Pretty boy can't act.



Ya' gotta admit, Dazed and Confused was an Awesome movie!

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Wednesday, November 7, 2007 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jossisagod:
Quote:

Originally posted by gorramgroupie:
Anything with Ben Affleck. Pretty boy can't act.



Ya' gotta admit, Dazed and Confused was an Awesome movie!

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Never saw, so can't agree or admit.


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Wednesday, November 7, 2007 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
The 'plot' of Napoleon Dynamite:

Nothing happens.
Nothing continues to happen.
Something random and unrelated to anything happens.
Ear-grating dialogue backed up with flat acting.
Cute girl number one.
Nothing happens.
Gosh!
Something kind of starts happening, but we're not sure which part of the 'story' matters in any way, shape, or form.
Cute girl number two. This one can act. She is the only one in the movie who can, and she has maybe three lines.
A few things happen that are vaguely related to things that sort of happened before.
Best moment in the movie. It involves gang bangers and no dialogue. At all.
Some sort of conclusion is reached and there is dancing.

Exactly. That whole movie was all about the things that entertain complete losers.

There were several scenes involving Kip in which the size of his food would increase with each scene. In one case, while Kip and the other dude are talking at a local diner, Kip is eating onion rings, which appear to grow each time we see Kip. In another scene in which Kip is talking to Napoleon, the cheese on his nachos gets larger and larger with each scene. The whole movie is just about the things that entertain the mundane and uninspired. That movie had me rolling.



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Wednesday, November 7, 2007 12:57 AM

As a disciple of Kevin Smith, I have to disagree with the "anything Ben Affleck" comment.

Yes the majority of the movies he has done are awful, but you can't overlook the work he's done with Kevin Smith. Him and Kevin are like Scorsese/De Niro and Carpenter/Russell or Whedon/Fillion. These are two guys who really know each other, are the best of friends and can bring out the best in each other. Doesn't matter if it's a small part or a lead, Smith just brings the best out of Affleck.

Plus, you can't ignore CHANGING LANES or HOLLYWOODLAND. And don't get me started on GONE BABY GONE. One of if not the most amazing fucking movie of the year so far. I honestly think that he could possibly become the next Clint Eastwood. I mean, Clint was a big movie star at one point, his career kinda faltered with the two movies he did with an orangutan, and now he's considered one of the best directors in the industry.

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Wednesday, November 7, 2007 1:03 AM

It is funny how everything with Ben Afleck sucks but yet movie makers still try making films with him.

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Wednesday, November 7, 2007 2:02 AM

That's Hollywood for ya- It's because of the Screen Writers strike. They're desperate enough to put out all the shit movies that were on the back burner.
Even the ones with Ben Affleck

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Wednesday, November 7, 2007 2:17 AM

One sci-fi movie which people seem to have forgotten (and probably with good reason), which I nearly walked out of about 4 or 5 times, is Battlefield Earth.
Holy God, that movie was bad, which is a shame, as the book was quite good, and the casting was pretty good as well. It was more pointless than playing Marco Polo with Helen Keller (to quote one of my fave TV legends)

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Wednesday, November 7, 2007 2:39 AM

Chris:

The first time the bald female alien appeared in the Star Trek movie everyone in theater started laughing out loud. She was so silly looking. She got more laughs than the cow fetus in Firefly.

Maybe that is why Joss stayed away from aliens.


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Wednesday, November 7, 2007 2:46 AM

Actually I thought that bald alien in the star trek movie was sexy.

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Wednesday, November 7, 2007 2:52 AM

I am being honest. The entire theater broke out in a horse laugh when she appeared. I think it is the only time I have ever known that to happen.


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Wednesday, November 7, 2007 6:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by zerokiryu:


I sooooo wanted to walk out on Ghost Rider, that movie could have been awesome.


Ghost Rider sucked, which is surprising seeing as the Director's cut of Daredevil was so cool...



Ghost Riders faults can be summed up thus - Sam Elliot and Peter Fonda thought that they were in a movie about a man that was tricked into selling his soul, and in the process becoming bonded to a pretty effin' scary demon. Everybody else was let in on the joke, that they were staring in a CGI crapfest with emo-rejects for bad guys and Nick Cage doing a bad Elvis impersonation. And this is my review of the Directors cut of Ghost Rider. I can only imagine that the theatrical version now resides on the list of cinematic atrocities that many of the other Marvel movies occupy.

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Wednesday, November 7, 2007 8:18 AM

What acresses played cute girl #1 and #2 in Napo Dyno? Which one could act?



Quote:

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Quote:

Originally posted by gorramgroupie:
Anything with Ben Affleck. Pretty boy can't act.



Ya' gotta admit, Dazed and Confused was an Awesome movie!

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I suppose Dazed and Confused would appeal to a pothead.

Otherwise, I didn't think Field of Dreams or Buffy the Vampire Killer were bad - I liked them, probably because his role was minimal. Same with Good Will Hunting, his role seemed minimal to me, but Robin Williams was pretty irritating. I really liked Armageddon, with his role being the least enjoyable. Apparently the John Ryan series has been ruined with Clancy's selection of Affleck.

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Wednesday, November 7, 2007 8:20 AM

I walked out of Sky High and Epic Movie. Both were absolutely terrible, and the acting would make Terry Schiavo cry.


I'm going to the special hell for saying that.....





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Wednesday, November 7, 2007 8:56 AM


Let's see, movies I literally could not bear to sit through, :)


The Last Starfighter = trailer trash cast in trailer trash movie. Also, worst possible special effects, ever.

The Black Hole = dull beyond belief. Also, good runner-up for worst possible special effects.

The Matrix 2 + 3 = travesties of the first kind.

Doom = yawn.

Event Horizon = they ran out of money and plot after the first ten minutes.

Robocop 3 = Kindergarten drivel.

American Pie = adolescent, crude and gross sexual 'humor' that even Benny Hill wouldn't find up to the standards of his outings. I'm trying to think of a way for it to be more disappointing. I just... It's not coming. I only went to see it for Alyson Hannigan, cuz she was such a dearheart in My Stepmother Is an Alien. I don't think I ever lost so much respect for a person on a single day.


P.S. The Fifth Element rocks, k? Are we green on that? :)


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Wednesday, November 7, 2007 9:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zeek:

Notting Hill:

Would you like some orange juice?
Yes please I would love some orange juice.
A large orange juice?
Yes, well...maybe not...maybe I should just get a medium orange juice...but I'd like a large orange juice...maybe I could get a medium orange juice and a small orange juice and end up somewhere in between and medium and a large orang...*walks out*

I swear I couldn't take it anymore. wtf did that have to do with anything? It hurt my brain so much. At least the girl I was with hated it too. The dialog was just so awful. I'm seriously in some pain right now just thinking about it. That's the only movie I've ever walked out on.



LOL. Yeah, that was bad! They should have called it "Crap Hill" instead. :)

It has Hugh Grant in it, right? Seems a sort of trend, to have Brittish actors say "Fuck" a lot, with an American accent. And have em pull all-nighters, getting drunk (which they call getting "pissed"). It's meant to be funny, or really cool or something. For a nation of sexually repressed football hooligans, as Cleese once called em, I suppose it has meaning. Whatever.


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Wednesday, November 7, 2007 2:13 PM

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Originally posted by asarian:
Robocop 3 = Kindergarten drivel.


The story was written by Frank Miller, and it was actually pretty good. The three big minuses were that the studio said it had to be PGified, Weller wasn't in it, and they ran out of money for physical FX, leading to a lame final fight. It's actually not that bad a movie, considering. But the main reason I'll watch it is for Basil Poledouris' music, which was so sorely missed in the second film.

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Wednesday, November 7, 2007 2:29 PM

idicorocy and borat have to be the 2 worst films i have ever seen. never before in my life i have felt getting dumber while watching anything.

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Wednesday, November 7, 2007 3:07 PM

Oh jeez - Borat. Horrible! I didn't walk out but I wanted to. The few decent moments didn't make up for all the stupid toilet humor. Soooo overrated.

As for Nap Dyn - I cringed through that whole movie because I grew up in the midwest and much of that "unrealistic" nothingness was shockingly close to how things really are for some people. But on 2nd watching I can enjoy the parody more, and I'm even beginning to appreciate the underlying genius of the film.

As for TV, there's only way to make Walker: Texas Ranger entertaining. Watch it and try - try really hard - to think of what you would change to make a parody of this show. There's nothing! It's so stupid that it's a maxed out parody of itself! (A friend recommended this. It got me to watch ~2 minutes, I've never been able to sit through any more.)

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Wednesday, November 7, 2007 4:06 PM

'American Pie' was so sickening that I let my eyes wander elsewhere around the room while watching it, and was only present because some friends had asked me to join them. When one of them tried to drag me bodily out to watch the second one, I jerked my arm out of his grasp and vehemently advised him to FUHGEDDABOUDIT.

I fell asleep during 'A Guy Thing'.

'Attack of the Clones' had me cringing during the fireplace scene, Anakin's pathetic flailure at romantic poetry, and Padme's acting - there wasn't enough wood in Canada to do it justice.

At the end of 'Kinky Boots', when Joel Edgerton tries to do the catwalk turn, I was groaning out loud - only thing that kept me in the room was the presence of fellow Browncoats.

HOWEVER.

Not really a movie/TV-show moment, but closely related thereto: Even when fellow Browncoats are present, if one of them starts playing a River/Jayne vid, I'm certain to disappear faster than a popstar's brain.



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Wednesday, November 7, 2007 4:12 PM

I am fortunate not to have seen most of these.

But I will add: The Abyss 90% fabulous action movie with cool atmosphere / 10% alien butterflies

Recently tried Underworld because her outfits look so cool. Tuned out after about 20 minutes. Talk talk talk talk talk.

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Wednesday, November 7, 2007 8:18 PM

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Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
I suppose Dazed and Confused would appeal to a pothead.




I AM NOT a pothead! I just thought it was a funny movie!

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Thursday, November 8, 2007 7:27 PM

This thread is proof positive that Browncoats are quite a diverse group. I happen to like many of the films that have been dissed througout this thread. Some of the movies listed here have me completely befuddled. I can't imagine someone calling themself a sci-fi fan whilst putting down some of these movies...

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Thursday, November 8, 2007 8:06 PM

These days I almost cannot watch anything other than Firefly & Serenity. I find all the dialogue contrived and retarded compared to Firefly...and most importantly, I don't give 2 shits about any of the lame, shallow characters.

A couple of movies which I thought would suck, and did not intend on watching but did, turned out to be surprisingly enjoyable...like Dodgeball & Ray.

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Thursday, November 8, 2007 8:15 PM

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Originally posted by singate:
This thread is proof positive that Browncoats are quite a diverse group. I happen to like many of the films that have been dissed througout this thread. Some of the movies listed here have me completely befuddled. I can't imagine someone calling themself a sci-fi fan whilst putting down some of these movies...

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Thursday, November 8, 2007 8:25 PM

could not. sit. through. The Godfather. *dies thinking about even a 2 minute segment of the movie*

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Thursday, November 8, 2007 9:57 PM

Hands down the WORST movie i have EVER seen was Ultraviolet, with Van Helsing coming in at a close 2nd!

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Thursday, November 8, 2007 10:40 PM

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I can't imagine someone calling themself a sci-fi fan whilst putting down some of these movies...


That's a fair point, but often sci-fi films do lack content, and often feel as though they have been hashed together, simply because the film-makers know there is a sci-fi fanbase there that will go see a film based on the prinicpal that it is sci-fi, irrespective of quality. I think that is a shame.

I would have hoped that all these years later sci-fi films would have developed into a much stronger genre, given that it is one of the first. That's not to say there aren't great films out there that are also by merit sci-fi, but it is infrequent.

I guess I like to consider myself a fan of film first then a fan of sci-fi film....






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Thursday, November 8, 2007 11:38 PM

Now, happily returning to the original premise of this thread....

Wash dying - I thought killing off one major original character was motivation enough for our BDH's.

Every piece of dialogue between Anakin and Padme' - I was mortified that Lucas could write such drivel.

The Architect explaining The One's existence - Good God. Who wrote that wordy, self-indulgent nonsense?

Spidey, Daredevil, Batman, etc. unmasking for everyone to see - I guess secret identities are just so 1950's.



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Friday, November 9, 2007 3:27 AM

van helsing definitely could have been done in a non corny fashion (i hate to sound stuck up, because I'm not, but I bet i could write a script for that film that would make it a million times better)

ultraviolet...again, definitely needs a script rewrite that includes more plot (of which it had none) and explanation into the characters/setup for some of the relationships (or lack thereof) between characters.

those are definitely the top two of the top ten worst movies ever made.

as for anakin and padme, it wasn't just ep3, it was eps 1&2 as well. the recent trilogy just seemed too half-assed and too rushed, like he wanted to hurry up and get it overwith instead of taking his time and constructing masterpieces like he did with the original trilogy, which rocks, btw.
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Friday, November 9, 2007 11:22 AM

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The movie Titanic, I actually never saw it, but let me give you a spoiler the ship sinks...

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Friday, November 9, 2007 11:27 AM

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I can't imagine someone calling themself a sci-fi fan whilst putting down some of these movies...



we... suffer for our love of the genre!

genuinely storming out of a movie (i do it, like, a LOT)is great cathartic fun!:0

also - throwing things at the tv screen

and so - combining the two... i give you - ladies and gentlemen -
The Planet of the Apes remake.

Pavlovian vandalism mode now engaged!

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Sunday, November 11, 2007 3:15 AM

Apparently there are some people who make a point of walking out upon hearing the title of a film if it's mentioned in the dialogue.

That's getting your money's worth. Not.

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Sunday, November 11, 2007 3:49 AM

I keep trying to remember the name of the movie, but for the life of me, I can't... it wasn't the movie that did it however.

It was the sickeningly expensive tickets, overpriced popcorn, watered down soda... all of which you tolerate for the experience, instead of waiting for the DVD, which I normally do...

And then, take your cramped, uncomfortable, squash in as many as possible seat in anticipation of seeing maybe a couple cool previews before the main feature...

And suddenly, in spite of the highway robbery of the ticket and condiments counter, that's not enough for their greed, because you (cue fanfare) then get assaulted with... COMMERCIALS.

Fuck, if I wanted to deal with commercial adverts I would GO HOME AND WATCH TV!

Never saw the movie, walked out on the spot, too pissed to even demand the money back, and blacklisted the theatre in question.

That was the moment I couldn't deal - the only other time I can remember walking out on a flick was Black Moon Rising, since every preview and advert focused entirely on the car (using, apparently, every single second of it's presence in the flick, perhaps more than once) and it's only used IN the movie for maybe 30 seconds at the end... walked out about 45 minutes into it, rabidly angry about being lied to over the whole premise of the movie.

Can ya tell i'm not generally pleased with hollywood anymore ?

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Monday, November 12, 2007 3:24 PM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
I can remember walking out on a flick was Black Moon Rising

Damn, so you're THE OTHER guy who saw (some of) that mess. I rented it for Linda Hamilton, but she weren't allowed to ACT in it, so it sucked all around.

I'm with ya on the theatre experience, unless it's a comedy- like we saw Bee Movie the other week- much better with an audience. But the popcorn and watered down Coke cost more than the tickets

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Tuesday, November 13, 2007 6:03 PM

theater experience depends on the flick. SOME comedies should be seen in the theater with other people, because the atmosphere some how makes the movie funnier, other people laugh, you laugh with them; it works. same thing with the adrenaline-rush type movies; some of them need to be seen on the big screen so you can get the full effect. Fortunately the theater nearby isn't cramped, no matter how many people are packed in there you still have enough room to move around :-P otherwise I'd never go, lol.

btw, what is Black Moon Rising? (has never heard of it)

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Tuesday, November 13, 2007 6:17 PM

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btw, what is Black Moon Rising? (has never heard of it)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090735/posters

It is as bad as they say. My one solace is that I saw it on video and mercifully not the cinema. However it is bad!




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Tuesday, November 13, 2007 7:02 PM

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It is as bad as they say.

Like, Episode One bad...

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Tuesday, November 13, 2007 8:13 PM

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It is as bad as they say.

Like, Episode One bad...



I didn't think ANYTHING could be that bad.

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Wednesday, November 14, 2007 12:18 AM

Oh I've actually seen movies on par or worse with Ep1.

no wonder I haven't heard of Black Moon Rising, it was made in 1986. I wasn't BORN in 1986. but jeez, read the synopsis, even the synopsis sounds bad *shudders* what was tommy lee thinking?

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Thursday, November 15, 2007 12:16 PM

I'd be the first to say that I'm an obsessive fan of Doctor Who and, admittingly, Utopia and The Sound of Drums are the best build-up I've seen for a long time.

So what the heck happened to Last of the Time Lords. Seriously! WTF? I can suspend reality with the best of them but honestly, the Space Jesus thing?

So not happy and am refusing to acknowledge its existance beyond my bitching. I can think of several better endings to that story-line.

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Thursday, November 15, 2007 1:20 PM

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Originally posted by traveler:
The very first Star Trek movie. They spent five minutes just flying around the Enterprise so evryone could see the great job they did with this special effect.

I loved that scene and the whole movie in general- The Director's Cut is one of my top ten favourites of all time, you Denebian slime devil!!

Tiberiusisall


I was there at Grauman's Chinese theater on Dec. 7, 1979, and that was the scene that had my jaw on the floor!
My buddy from the hobby shop couldn't stop talking about it, and when he bought one o' them newfangled LaserDisc players and hooked it up to his SurroundSound system, ST:TMP was the first title he bought.
He invited me over, and we jumped straight to the DryDock sequence! We were in hog heaven!

And in my theater, Persis Khambatta's appearance was quite literally breathtaking: A lot of sucking-in of breath and long Ooooooooh's.
That woman had the most gorgeous pate!

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Thursday, November 15, 2007 1:40 PM

I'm with you on that. I always liked ST:TMP a lot more than some of the more popular sequels. Mainly because TMP served as an introduction to the classic STAR TREK crew, as well as just the tone and ideas behind it were a bit more lofty for a typical sci-fi blockbuster. It reminded me a lot of 2001, in that it was very visual and that it dealt with the same themes of man's place in the universe and finding a deeper meaning. I don't really remember sensing that in WRATH OF KHAN which basically ripped off STAR WARS.

And speaking of STAR WARS, people seem to forget than an even worse movie came out that same summer. I would rather sit through the SW prequels on a loop and strapped to a CLOCKWORK ORANGE chair than to see one minute of WILD WILD WEST. That movie is still without a doubt in my mind my yardstick for measuring bad movie. A complete failure on every aspect. I wouldn't be surprised if they use that movie as a method of torture in Guantanamo Bay.

Thatwas one movie I wish I had walked out of.

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Thursday, November 15, 2007 2:37 PM

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I always liked ST:TMP a lot more than some of the more popular sequels. Mainly because TMP served as an introduction to the classic STAR TREK crew, as well as just the tone and ideas behind it were a bit more lofty for a typical sci-fi blockbuster. It reminded me a lot of 2001, in that it was very visual and that it dealt with the same themes of man's place in the universe and finding a deeper meaning. I don't really remember sensing that in WRATH OF KHAN

Thank you, THANK YOU!!!!!!
Regina, have you seen the Director's cut? It's even better than the theatrical release!!! I love what Robert Wise wrote in the inner pamphlet, about time travel- that he'd gotten a chance to go back and truly finish it! So cool!

V'ger is a child...Chrisisall

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Thursday, November 15, 2007 2:54 PM

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Thursday, November 15, 2007 2:54 PM

Seen it? I HAVE it in my collection. That and UNDISCOVERED COUNTRY, which I feel is the strongest of the sequels.

"Each of us... at some time in our lives, turns to someone - a father, a brother, a God... and asks...”Why am I here? What was I meant to be?"

I dunno. Maye if I see WRATH OF KHAN again, I'll dig it more. But for the time being, 1 and 6 are my favorites.

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Thursday, November 15, 2007 3:04 PM

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I dunno. Maye if I see WRATH OF KHAN again, I'll dig it more. But for the time being, 1 and 6 are my favorites.


It's good for an adrenaline rush, but yeah, 1 & 6 are best, and in that order.
Trek, to me, was always at it's best when it had a message beneath the story...WRATH was just a cool slugging match.

Agreeing Chrisisall

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Thursday, November 15, 2007 4:10 PM

Okay, I wasn’t going to say anything, because I’m such a huge fan of the original series that I might be biased, but ST:the Movie was one of my favorites. I thought it really captured the theme of the original story but it lacked the feel. One of the problems with many Star Trek following the original series is that they have tried to shed the inherent militarism in the show. The original series embraced this militarism, and of course as a military or para-military vessel, this not only made sense, but provided a consistent sense of swashbuckling to accompany the more intellectual side of the story.

I also like the Wrath of Khan. Partly because I really liked Ricardo Montalban as Khan and I thought it made a great contrast with the previous movie - showing the military side of Star Trek. The two movies together are like the yin and yang of Star Trek, somehow isolated from one another.

The next two movies went far a field of the original concept, not that they were bad, but they just weren’t in tune with the original story. Star Trek 5, despite being widely considered sub par, was the first Star Trek that truly put the original story in shape with both that sense of exploration and military structure. Unfortunately, it’s painful to watch. By Star Trek 6, however, they finally got everything right, with both the militarist side of the story, as well as the intellectual side, submerged in political arguments representing events of the time, and foreshadowing the fall of Communism. Although, in 1991, it wasn’t that difficult to see the fall of Soviet communism, but still.



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Thursday, November 15, 2007 4:19 PM

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
ST:the Movie was one of my favorites. I thought it really captured the theme of the original story but it lacked the feel.

The only thing I didn't like about ST: TMP was the costumes (notice I didn't say uniforms). They were just too casual for a semi or para-military wessle.
Other than that, it's pure gold IMO.

Carbon unit Chrisisall

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Thursday, November 15, 2007 4:56 PM

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Originally posted by Traveler:
The very first Star Trek movie. They spent five minutes just flying around the Enterprise so evryone could see the great job they did with this special effect.



That's why they fired that director after the first movie and hired a new one :) who I must say did a 1000x better job on the sequels.

>>totally forgot about Wild Wild West, guess I tried to block it from memory, can't stand that movie, and I love Will Smith.

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Thursday, November 15, 2007 5:26 PM

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That's why they fired that director after the first movie and hired a new one :) who I must say did a 1000x better job on the sequels.

Ummm...he wasn't 'fired'. He was not hired to make the next one 3 years later- there's a difference. And the next director made only 2 movies, many sequels apart.
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>>totally forgot about Wild Wild West, guess I tried to block it from memory, can't stand that movie, and I love Will Smith.


If you love Will, you must be seeing I Am Legend out soon, eh?

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Thursday, November 15, 2007 6:12 PM

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That's why they fired that director after the first movie and hired a new one :) who I must say did a 1000x better job on the sequels.


They fired Robert Wise? Really? He who directed some of the classics of cinema: Day the Earth Stood Still, Sound of Music, West Side Story, The Haunting and The Andromeda Strain... Man the balls on the Exec who put that notion through....!

I have to say I really liked the first Star Trek movie, it's one of the few that I can re-watch and it keeps me gripped all the way through. Surprisingly Undiscovered Country is the other. Not sure why possibly because the direction is tighter.

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Thursday, November 15, 2007 6:15 PM

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totally forgot about Wild Wild West, guess I tried to block it from memory, can't stand that movie, and I love Will Smith.


You may want to have a look at this little anecdote from Kevin Smith about the 'origins' of Wild, Wild West. It's very funny. A bit long but he's a good talker. Hope you like.




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Thursday, November 15, 2007 6:50 PM

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I have to say I really liked the first Star Trek movie, it's one of the few that I can re-watch and it keeps me gripped all the way through. Surprisingly Undiscovered Country is the other. Not sure why possibly because the direction is tighter.


Both are complete stories; they depend on no other movie to keep answering questions- ST2 leads into ST3, which leads into 4, and 5...well, 5 is just a mess. I would have like Shatner to get the chance to fix it, but alas, even the fan base didn't rally for that. Tant pis.

Also, Khan's high-eighties-hairspray doo bugged me to no end...

The Botany Bay was not a salon Chrisisall

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Thursday, November 15, 2007 7:11 PM

Pirates ... :At World's End

The last 2 1/2 hours of this 3+ hour epic piece of convoluted crap made question whether I would ever watch another movie again. It started with Depp's acid trip induced jaunt through "World's End". Then having the only piece of female eye candy (Kiera Knightly) wearing an asian inspired tent and pointy hat throughout the whole movie angered me even further.

At last the final sword fight on the mast that was going down a friggin massive whirlpool was just stupid. I wish I could be more eloquent about the level of stupidity that was reached during that scene, but I can't.

The most massive waste of well-done CG effects in the history of western civilization. Three Serenity sequels could have been made with what was spent on this steaming pile of excrement. I feel dumber for having sat through this vapid pool of dung. Gore Verbinski owes me $8 and 3 1/2 hours of my life.

Other than that, it was pretty good.

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Thursday, November 15, 2007 8:32 PM

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Ummm...he wasn't 'fired'. He was not hired to make the next one 3 years later- there's a difference.



excuse me for not making the distinction from that tiny technicality. I don't want to sound rude, but in my mind if you're doing a series of movies and you don't hire the director from the first one to direct the REST, either he wasn't available, or he was pretty damn bad. The first Star Trek movie had me tearing my hair out wishing it would be over.

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They fired Robert Wise? Really? He who directed some of the classics of cinema: Day the Earth Stood Still, Sound of Music, West Side Story, The Haunting and The Andromeda Strain... Man the balls on the Exec who put that notion through....!



Well, if he directed those other movies, he must have been smoking something when he directed ST1, my god..the loss of brain cells he had to sustain... On the flip, to the other portion of your post, I liked Undiscovered Country as well :) it was pretty cool, and I kinda liked how it ended.

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Thursday, November 15, 2007 8:40 PM

I thought "Requiem for a Dream" and "Crash" were two of the best movies ever made; and there are no words to express my disappointment at "Spiderman 3" and "X-Men 3" and "Pirates of the Caribbean 3." They were all just bad, on several levels. (Why, O WHY does Hollywood feel the need to follow up great movies with utter crap for sequels? With this mad obsession with trilogies never END!?)

But the grand stinker, the moment I absolutely could not take any more, was in that God-awful "Punch Drunk Love" with Adam Sandler, where his character drives (or maybe he flies, I don't remember exactly, but it was a long freaking way) all the way to Utah to confront the matress store owner, all the way clutching a phone receiver, just for a few lines of dialogue. And for what? Supposedly it was a "dark comedy," but that whole movie was just ridiculous, and not in a funny way. Pathetic.

On a distantly-related note, have y'all seen "Death at a Funeral?" British comedy. A lot of it's lame, some of it's pretty funny, but our Alan really steals the show.

"Mwah ha ha ha...mine is an evil laugh. Now die."

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Thursday, November 15, 2007 9:38 PM

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I thought "Requiem for a Dream" and "Crash" were two of the best movies ever made.


Hi BlueBomber.

May I just ask what it is about these two films that lead you to feel they are two of the best movies ever made? I ask not to lash out or attack or fly contrary for the sake of an arguement, I promise, I am genuinely intrigued. (Oh and for clarity are you refering to the Cronenberg 'Crash'?)

Cheers
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Thursday, November 15, 2007 9:47 PM

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The first Star Trek movie had me tearing my hair out wishing it would be over.


Phasers locked; FIRE!!!

(don't worry- they were on stun)

ST:TMP is a serious, heady visualfest- not so much the swashbuckling and more the REAL science fiction.
Sci-Fi Action fans can't get into it for that reason, I guess.
I also like 2001, Silent Running and Solaris. But don't look at these flicks, Free, unless you need to sleep.

Cheeky Chrisisall

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Friday, November 16, 2007 12:17 AM

Just to sort of set the record for everyone as to the shift in tone and personnel between THE MOTION PICTURE and THE WRATH OF KHAN, the first movie took forever to get made. First it was going to be a movie, and then it became a series called PHASE II, with the same cast as well as some newcomers. Basically an earlier incarnation of THE NEXT GENERATION. STAR WARS came out, so forget the series, we're going to do a movie.

During this time, dozens of writers were hired to write various scripts with different plots, all under the helm of Gene Roddennberry. Wise was chosen because of his impressive resume, which while it had sci-fi in it, he wasn't familiar with summer blockbusters. So while the movie did eventually get made, Wise and Roddenberry took so long to make it and alienated the studio while they were at it and delivered 2001, which is great, but they were expecting STAR WARS.

So after the somewhat lackluster reaction, they decided to not have Gene back to produce, but to bring in Harve Bennett, who wasn't too big a fan of the first movie, to basically simplify production and to make it "less boring". And after the great reaction to WRATH, him and Nick Meyer were more or less in charge of the franchise, while Gene went off to create NEXT GENERATION.

So the reason why TMP felt like real STAR TREK was because it was the only movie to have direct input from him. After that, his contributions to the movies became less and less. That's not to say what Harve and Nick did with the classic characters was bad. It was just a different tone. Less weighty meaning, more action.

And as for FINAL FRONTIER, I'm always willing to give that movie a pass because it's an example of a big, idealistic movie being hampered from beginning to end on different fronts. Strikes, less money, production problems, studio interference, you name, it the movie had it. In a parallel universe, it probably is considered the best TREK movie.

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Friday, November 16, 2007 1:53 AM

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And as for FINAL FRONTIER, I'm always willing to give that movie a pass because it's an example of a big, idealistic movie being hampered from beginning to end on different fronts. Strikes, less money, production problems, studio interference, you name, it the movie had it. In a parallel universe, it probably is considered the best TREK movie.


It's scary how much we have in common regarding classic Trek.
Are you also looking foward the the re-mastered episodes with the enhanced FX?

I'll find a difference of opinion yet Chrisisall

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